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Free Speech

This Court Case Could Make It a Crime To Be a Journalist in Texas

Priscilla Villarreal found herself in a jail cell for publishing two routine stories. A federal court still can't decide what to do about that.

Billy Binion | 11.4.2022 10:03 AM

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Priscilla Villarreal is seen next to a copy of a ruling from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit | Saenz Photography; U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit
Priscilla Villarreal (Saenz Photography; U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit)

It has been five years since police in Laredo, Texas, mocked and jeered at Priscilla Villarreal, a local journalist often critical of cops, as she stood in the Webb County Jail while they booked her on felony charges. Her crime: asking the government questions.

That may seem like a relatively obvious violation of the First Amendment. Yet perhaps more fraught is that, after all this time, the federal courts have still not been able to reach a consensus on that question. Over the years, judges in the 5th Circuit have ping-ponged back and forth over whether jailing a journalist for doing journalism does, in fact, plainly infringe on her free speech rights.

The U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Texas awarded those officers qualified immunity, the legal doctrine that allows state and local government officials to violate your constitutional rights without having to face federal civil suits if that violation has not been "clearly established" in case law. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit forcefully overturned that: "If [this] is not an obvious violation of the Constitution, it's hard to imagine what would be," wrote Judge James C. Ho.

Last week, the full spate of judges on the 5th Circuit voted to rehear the case in a rare move that signals some discontent with Ho's majority conclusion. Put differently, it's not looking good for Villarreal, nor for any journalist in the 5th Circuit who would like to do their job without fear of going to jail for it.

In April 2017, Villarreal, who reports near the U.S.-Mexico border, broke a story about a Border Patrol agent who committed suicide. A month later, she released the surname of a family involved in a fatal car accident. The agency that confirmed both pieces of information: the Laredo Police Department. The agency that would bring felony charges against her six months later for those acts of journalism: the Laredo Police Department.

At the core of Villarreal's misfortune is a Texas law that allows the state to prosecute someone who obtains nonpublic information from a government official if he or she does so "with intent to obtain a benefit." Villarreal operates her popular news-sharing operation on Facebook, where her page, Lagordiloca News, has amassed 200,000 followers as of this writing.

So to jail Villarreal, police alleged that she ran afoul of that law when she retrieved information from Laredo Police Department Officer Barbara Goodman and proceeded to publish those two aforementioned stories, because she potentially benefited by gaining more Facebook followers. Missing from that analysis is that every journalist, reporter, or media pundit has an "intent to benefit" when she or he publishes a story, whether it is to attract viewers, readers, or subscribers. Soliciting information from government officials—who, as Villarreal's case exemplifies, sometimes feed reporters information—is called a "scoop," and it's not new.

Yet it was an argument that, in some sense, resonated with Judge Priscilla Richman, the chief jurist on the 5th Circuit, who almost certainly voted in favor of reconsidering the court's ruling. "In fact, Villareal's [sic] Complaint says that she 'sometimes enjoys a free meal from appreciative readers, . . . occasionally receives fees for promoting a local business [and] has used her Facebook page [where all of her reporting is published] to ask for donations for new equipment necessary to continue her citizen journalism efforts," she wrote in August, rebuking Ho's conclusion. "With great respect, the majority opinion is off base in holding that no reasonably competent officer could objectively have thought that Villareal [sic] obtained information from her back-door source within the Laredo Police Department with an 'intent to benefit.'"

Such an interpretation would render the media industry an illegal operation, and everyone who participates—whether they be conservative, liberal, far-left, far-right, or anything in-between—criminals. "Other journalists are paid full salaries by their media outlets," writes Ho. Can confirm. Is that somehow less consequential than receiving free lunch or getting a new spike of followers on a social media platform (which is something that many journalists employed full time also set out to do)? "In sum, it is a crime to be a journalist in Texas, thanks to the dissent's reading of § 39.06(c)," Ho adds. 

Debates around free speech are often polarized along predictable partisan lines. More specifically, they're often polarized by the content espoused. It's an easy task to support the idea of free speech when you enjoy what's being said. But the First Amendment does not pertain solely to popular speech, which, by nature of common sense, needs considerably less protection than the content deemed unpopular by the majority.

"It's not about just one person, it's not about just one case," says J.T. Morris, a senior attorney at the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE), which is representing Villarreal. "It's about the First Amendment rights of all citizens to ask their public officials questions."

This appears to be something Judge Ho understands. Appointed by President Donald Trump, he has drawn headlines in recent weeks for his critiques of cancel culture at Yale Law School, where left-leaning students have developed a reputation for petulantly shouting down those with differing views. In our current partisan landscape, then, Villarreal might seem like an odd character for Ho to sympathize with; it's safe to say she would more likely qualify as a left-leaning hero than a right-leaning one. The journalist doggedly covers law enforcement with profanity-laced commentary: She once published a video of an officer choking someone at a traffic stop, and railed at a district attorney who dropped criminal charges against someone for animal abuse—a pattern which perhaps explains why police were eager to use the force of the law against her, the first time they ever invoked the statute in question.

But to make an about-face based on the content fundamentally confuses the meaning of free speech. Put differently, if you're upset that some students at Yale Law School are not mature enough to engage with those who think differently, or that social media vigilantes unfairly derail careers for WrongThink, then so too should you care that a woman in small-town Texas spent time in jail for promoting a message that might make you uncomfortable.

It's a problem of principle, and it's one that may also pervade the judiciary. "It should go without saying that forcing a public school student to embrace a particular political view serves no legitimate pedagogical function and is forbidden by the First Amendment," Ho wrote in Oliver v. Arnold last year. The case, which went under the radar, pertained to a conservative teacher who discriminated against a liberal student, temporarily turning the discussion on bias in education on its head. That student, Mari Leigh Oliver, won—by the skin of her teeth. Seven judges wanted to rehear the case, suggesting they disagreed with the ruling, while the remaining 10 declined.

Addressing some of the judges who would side against Oliver, Ho wrote that "it's unclear why they think [other] claims should succeed, and only Oliver's should lose." After all, the roles are typically reversed; conservatives are frequently the ones outweighed in academic settings. But if you only apply your principles when they suit you—if you only stand against the illiberal Yale students and not for the Villarreals or the Olivers—then you are sure to eventually find yourself on the losing end. And then what?

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  1. SQRLSY One   3 years ago

    "Debates around free speech are often polarized along predictable partisan lines."

    No shit, Sherlock!!!

    Now I have a critical question that needs to be answered before I can decide whether Priscilla Villarreal had her free speech violated: Is Priscilla Villarreal with "Team R" or with "Team D"?

    1. Rossami   3 years ago

      Read the article. The answer's right there.

      Okay, I know you're just a parody account. But if you're going to be a parody, try to be a good one.

      1. SQRLSY One   3 years ago

        She is against abusive cops, which is ??? (probably) a more "Team D" thing, while "Back the Blue" is more "Team R". But that's generalizing rather badly...

        I re-read the article just now. Me personally? I bet she leans heavily "Team D"! But that's not at all crystal-clear, as far as I can tell.

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    2. Johnathan Galt   3 years ago

      Good questions. Be careful not to benefit from the answers.

      Overall, I suspect there’s more to this story not being laid out clearly by this Reason author. Call it a hunch. In point of fact, I believe so-called journalists have too much protection, and that whole SCOTUS ruling from decades ago. However, even under such reduced protection, it seems like the way this is presented that the law is overtly prejudicial against journalism “targeted restrictions,” patently discriminatory) and probably overly vague as well, making it an unconstitutional law.

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  2. Pepin the short   3 years ago (edited)

    Punished for journalism?

    Reason staff can sit this one out. You’re not in any danger.

    1. ElvisIsReal   3 years ago

      SHOTS.

      FIRED.

      1. Dace Highlander   3 years ago

        No need to heat the building with this level of burn incoming.

  3. SRG   3 years ago

    The Fifth Circuit fits the meme of the -stress-sweaty hero having to choose between two buttons - "freedom of speech" and "freedom of cops".

    1. Eeyore   3 years ago

      I can't find in the constitution where cops have a guaranteed right to power.

      1. SRG   3 years ago

        If anything, one would think that 14A denies cops the preferential treatment that states and courts are inclined to give them. But copsuckers like much of the Fifth Circuit, Alito, etc. are quite happy deferring to them.

    2. Brandybuck   3 years ago

      Cops got no freedom. Cops are employees of the government, as we as citizens are their boss. Cops gotta obey the rules. The problem today is that way too many cops think they're supposed to be served, not to serve.

      1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

        Cops have powers, not rights.

        1. SoSoCoCoMoFo   3 years ago

          They do have rights as people, just not as cops.

          1. sarcasmic   3 years ago (edited)

            Cops are trained animals that follow procedure and policy. They are not human beings.

            1. SoSoCoCoMoFo   3 years ago

              I'm a "no special rights" person.

              So long as they qualify by DNA, their human rights should be respected.

      2. mad.casual   3 years ago (edited)

        we as citizens are their boss

        If you thought one cop telling you to freeze and another cop telling you to lay down on the ground and put your hands behind your back at the same time or they'll shoot was bad…

      3. JohnZ   3 years ago

        To paraphrase Henry Kissinger said about soldiers: Cops are stupid dumb animals to be used by the state to enforce codes and policies.

  4. BestUsedCarSales   3 years ago

    This appears to be something Judge Ho understands. Appointed by President Donald Trump, he has drawn headlines in recent weeks for his critiques of cancel culture at Yale Law School, where left-leaning students have developed a reputation for petulantly shouting down those with differing views. In our current partisan landscape, then, Villarreal might seem like an odd character for Ho to sympathize with.

    Man, why throw this in Binion?

    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      Because it might PO the group he supposes are his real audience, the blue checks, if he seems to be talking approvingly of a Trump appointee and blasphemer.

      1. BestUsedCarSales   3 years ago

        It's so condescending to Judge Ho, and does nothing but push not just a partisan view of the world, but one without any subtlety. It's the dumb agitation that Binion normally produces.

    2. mad.casual   3 years ago

      Man, why throw this in Binion?

      Funny thing is, there's a legit core libertarian think piece about stringers, paparazzos, journalistic integrity, police action, and evidence collection to be had here that extends well beyond Villarreal, Ho, and even Trump. But that shit's hard and making people think don't pay the bills, so "Muh jurinalism's under uttack!"

      1. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

        I suspect that this has a lot to do with it. There's also a very good likelihood that binion's comprehension of 'conservative thought' by Ho or others is limited to the fantasy versions of in his head. I guarantee he didn't bother to contact Judge Ho -that would be to much like journalism.

  5. Brandybuck   3 years ago

    So my high school civics teacher was a John Bircher. Was he able to teach civics fairly? Yes. We all knew his slant, but he never shut down someone with a left of center viewpoint. He was a teacher. So he asked questions back. The goal was not to convert, but to get the student to think. I don't think he ever convinced anyone to his side, but that was never his goal. As long as the student went away thinking rather than spouting op-ed headlines, he was happy.

    Pedagogy not demagogy.

    1. JohnZ   3 years ago

      Unfortunately, that's no longer the case. leftist teachers use time and tested brainwashing and indoctrination techniques used by previous communists, against your children.
      If you protest, you get a visit from the KGB(FBI).

    2. SIV   3 years ago

      I too had the good fortune to have a Bircher HS civics teacher. He was on a one year contract, was a talk radio host (1970s), campaign operative and former-congressional aid. I'd guess he de-programmed half the class.

      1. Nelson   3 years ago

        I guess if you want conspiracy theories, Lost Cause advocacy, and fringe beliefs about American history, a John Bircher would do a great job of programming kids to believe irrational tbings.

        Oh, you said "deprigramming". Yeah, that's not likely.

  6. Nemo Aequalis   3 years ago

    This Court Case Could Make It a Crime To Be a Journalist in Texas

    Any chance of federalizing it?

    1. damikesc   3 years ago

      Well, Veritas is being run through the wringer for not publishing Ashley Biden's not-stolen diary. So, seems to be.

      1. JohnZ   3 years ago

        Not really. I have a feeling James is going to give the FIB a good black eye.

      2. Nelson   3 years ago

        Project Veritas is journalism? If so, then black is white, up is down, and there are no pedophiles in the Catholic Church.

        1. DesigNate   3 years ago

          Yes, it is.

          1. Nelson   3 years ago

            Lololololololololol *gasp* *gasp*

            I almost asphyxiated laughing. Don't do that without warning people first.

            1. Dogvalor   3 years ago

              You have mental problems.

  7. Ted AKA Teddy Salad, CIA/US Ballet Force   3 years ago

    Interesting. Yet still no articles on the indefinite detention of J6 protestors.

    1. ThomasD   3 years ago

      Local news story.

    2. SRG   3 years ago

      A news story about people being held up in the judicial system is kinda "dog bites man".

      "Jan 6 protestors experiencing the same issues as other citizens incarcerated pre-trial" oh the horror.

      1. Marshal   3 years ago

        Jan 6 protestors experiencing the same issues as other citizens incarcerated pre-trial” oh the horror.

        Not only is this false since no BLM rioters were held without bail but the same people claiming this is acceptable we’re highly critical of even the kid glove treatment BLM rioters did receive.

        Sad really that people who used to pose as proponents of civil rights completely about face as soon as their enemies rather than allies are targeted.

        1. SRG   3 years ago

          I'm not talking about comparing them with BLM but with the gpop of pre-trial defendants.

          See this case, for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalief_Browder

          1. Marshal   3 years ago

            I’m not talking about comparing them with BLM but with the gpop of pre-trial defendants.

            Of course not, because that would reveal the stark difference you’re trying to hide. Being a good propagandist you chose a less appropriate comparison because it made your point. It’s revealing though you pretend to disapprove of this in there general pop but condone it with”oh the horror” when applied to those you hate.

            Revealing.

            1. SRG   3 years ago

              No. You can argue that BLM protestors were treated better than gpop but if the Jan 6 protestors were treated no better for gpop you have no business complaining how they're treated. "My boys and girls aren't being given preferential treatment" isn't a particularly strong argument.

              Keep whining, bucko.

        2. Nelson   3 years ago

          I see how you tried to equate rioters (who were detained, usually without bail) and BLM protesters, two separate groups.

          Just like the J6 rioters and people who attended Trump's speech and stayed out of the Capitol are two separate groups.

          Dishonest, much?

          1. Marshal   3 years ago

            Note that I referenced BLM rioters while the response asserts BLM protesters. First he replaces one group with the other implicitly asserting they are interchangeable (logically if these are not interchangeable groups his switch is invalid so by doing it he asserts this). Then he claims others are responsible for his own assertion claiming this makes them dishonest instead of himself.

            What a mess, but indicative of people who can only paint by numbers but think this makes them a master.

            1. Nelson   3 years ago

              Those two groups share a very small slice of the Venn diagram. BLM is a social activist group that you dislike with roughly .0000001% who were also rioters.

              Using the phrase "BLM rioters" lets you insinuate that BLM is chock-full of rioters. Then when someone points it out, you act shocked and offended. "What? Some of the BLM proteaters weren't also rioters?".

              Unsurprisingly, it is a dishonest rhetorical gambit that you use.

              But anyone who would say something as factually untrue as "no BLM rioters were held without bail" can't be considered a serious or honest person.

              1. Marshal   3 years ago

                It’s hard to write a comment so completely wrong in every element. Usually commenters will accidentally state something true in passing, but not in this case. BLM rioters differentiates between protesters and rioters as is perfectly appropriate. Only an idiot could assert otherwise.

                Unsurprisingly the left simply cannot have an honest discussion on any topic, largely because the people who control their talking points know their beliefs cannot withstand even basic scrutiny. So they train their acolytes in these games to claim rioters means protesters.

                Then we see their fantasies return with the claim BLM rioters were held without bail. Even the fools throwing Molotov Cocktails received bail and sweetheart deals.

                It’s just bizarre these people whose lives occur completely within their own fantasies lecture others about seriousness as if we’re not able to discern their lunacy.

            2. In Canis Credimus   3 years ago

              nobody cares about BLM protestors in comparison to the fucks trying to overthrow my democratrically elected government and install a dictator. Apples and strawberries. Those pieces of shit are lucky to get off with their 1 year felonies. they should all get a minimum of 10 years.

          2. DesigNate   3 years ago

            I’d love to see the evidence of a BLM rioter being detained for two years without bail.

            Oh, and not all of the people that have been rounded up and detained caused any property damage or got into any altercations with police.

            1. Nelson   3 years ago

              Do your own research and let us know. The J6 folks who entered the Capitol through shattered windows and smashed doors made their own own bed. Now they get to lie in it.

              Next you'll be telling us that Ashli Babbitt was an innocent tourist who was just trying to get through a crowded door when she got what she deserved.

      2. JoeB   3 years ago

        For two years.

    3. Nelson   3 years ago

      "J6 protestors"

      At least be honest enough to admit they were rioting. The tear gas, smashed windows and doors, and law enforcement trying to stop them were the clues.

      1. Marshal   3 years ago

        Note the intentional effort to group protesters and rioters together, the exact opposite principle he just claimed must be used describing his allies

        Propagandists should be better than this. This isn’t even freshman level work.

    4. In Canis Credimus   3 years ago

      Who cares, leave them in there to rot.

  8. mad.casual   3 years ago

    This Court Case Could Make It a Crime To Be a Journalist in Texas

    So do I have to actually read the article to discover how if you use a mirror to peak around the corner to see this law "coming right at you" or can I just assume the usual Reason MO?

    1. mad.casual   3 years ago

      Her crime: asking the government questions.

      OK, taking my time, two sentences in, lemme guess, she wasn't arrested just for 'asking questions'.

      1. mad.casual   3 years ago

        In April 2017, Villarreal, who reports near the U.S.-Mexico border, broke a story about a Border Patrol agent who committed suicide. A month later, she released the surname of a family involved in a fatal car accident. The agency that confirmed both pieces of information: the Laredo Police Department. The agency that would bring felony charges against her six months later for those acts of journalism: the Laredo Police Department.

        At the core of Villarreal's misfortune is a Texas law that allows the state to prosecute someone who obtains nonpublic information from a government official if he or she does so "with intent to obtain a benefit." Villarreal operates her popular news-sharing operation on Facebook, where her page, Lagordiloca News, has amassed 200,000 followers as of this writing.

        Ah, so her crime wasn't just asking questions. Her crime was violating journalistic standards of integrity about publishing non-public and explicitly private, 3rd-party information and the only recourse the Laredo Police Departments have is to arrest her for profiting from it.

        She once published a video of an officer choking someone at a traffic stop, and railed at a district attorney who dropped criminal charges against someone for animal abuse

        And she wasn't found 'guilty of journalism' for those? It's almost like there's a distinct difference between publishing private information obtained from LEOs, about themselves and third parties, and publishing public information collected on public property. Huh.

        I wonder if Julian Assange or Ed Snowden or any one of a dozen others who were actually reporting on the no-shit crimes being perpetrated by the government have an opinion on this. Or was Villarreal using the specific information in the specific cases to profit off of non-police corruption/action?

        1. rloquitur   3 years ago

          "Ah, so her crime wasn’t just asking questions. Her crime was violating journalistic standards of integrity about publishing non-public and explicitly private, 3rd-party information and the only recourse the Laredo Police Departments have is to arrest her for profiting from it."

          But see https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/491/524/

          1. mad.casual   3 years ago

            But see https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/491/524/

            So... you're arguing that because a reporter in FL doxxed a sexual assault victim in violation of their employer's policies, Villareal should be able to doxx suicide victims, or anyone who might be confused with them, before police can identify the body and notify the NOK?

            Bold move. Not entirely clear on what that's got to do with journalism, a duly/well-informed public, free speech, or libertarianism.

            1. rloquitur   3 years ago

              I am saying that she has a right to do it. Generally, if the government tells you something, the First Amendment gives you the right to disseminate it. That's what Florida Star stands for.

              1. mad.casual   3 years ago

                Generally, if the government tells you something, the First Amendment gives you the right to disseminate it.

                Yeah, something between the pursuit of Snowden, Assange, the Pee Dossier, the attempted kidnap of Gretchen Whitmer, Clapper, Fauci, Trump declassifying documents, etc., etc. tells me your and Binion's opinion of a clean cut narrative isn't as neat and tidy or clearly libertarian as you'd like it to be.

                1. rloquitur   3 years ago

                  Well, maybe you don't think so, but recall, of course, that all judges agree her activity was protected by 1A--as for my statement of the general rule, I got it right.

                  1. mad.casual   3 years ago

                    as for my statement of the general rule, I got it right.

                    Except for all the de rigueur exceptions and the de facto exceptions WRT one-party and two-party consent, filming of minors and sexually explicit content without consent, classified information, and federal litigation saying police and federal agents aren't necessarily under no obligation to tell you the truth, sure, if the government says it's OK, it's OK. Aside from the multitude of exceptions, you're general rule is generally right in the most general meaning of 'right' that may or may not have anything to do with being correct.

                    1. rloquitur   3 years ago

                      what are you even talking about?

        2. rloquitur   3 years ago

          Xavier, is that you?

          https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/editorials/sd-becerra-police-discipline-records-berkeley-20190226-story.html

          1. mad.casual   3 years ago

            Seems like you missed the point about the choking and animal abuse livecasts. The clear demonstrations of police misconduct didn't get her into trouble directly, but if we read the tea leaves of her disclosing personal information about 3rd parties and throw up a link about police misconduct, suddenly mind-reading intent becomes relevant.

            1. rloquitur   3 years ago

              Sez you. But that's not the law. Fact is--everyone pretty much concedes that her arrest was unconstitutional. The only question is the police liability for violating her rights. The dissenting judge has said that the police can escape liability by relying on the statute. But the law is clear that the cops have no power to arrest her based on receiving a benefit. If the cops are arguing that they arrested her because she violated some sort of privacy interest, then they open themselves up to other problems.

              Fact is, the First Amendment violation is clear. Whether or not the Fifth Circuit can see that remains to be seen.

  9. Jerryskids   3 years ago

    As Abraham Lincoln said, "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime." I'm sure if it wasn't this, there's a half-dozen other laws they could have charged this woman with violating in order to shut her up. And the fact that she's a journalist is beside the point, we're all journalists and we all have freedom of the press. Look, I'm journalizing right now!

    1. ThomasD   3 years ago (edited)

      This. So much this.

      Binion is a twit and an embarrassment to Reason, even as it itself is an embarrassment of a publication.

      1. SRG   3 years ago

        You lot are like people complaining every day about the bar they frequent every day.

        1. Marshal   3 years ago

          Notice the deflection technique. Reason can’t be defended on the merits so he changes the subject to pathologize what is so obviously true he chooses not to defend it. It makes you wonder why he’s so motivated to defend the indefensible.

          Well, not really.

          1. Super Scary   3 years ago

            Mike does the "well if it's so bad, why are you here" thing a lot too.

            1. SoSoCoCoMoFo   3 years ago

              It's a very good question, though.

              You appear to need something to complain about, so you keep coming back here to do it.

              1. DesigNate   3 years ago

                You mean they do the same thing Reason writers and some commenters ostensibly do: Complain about the people they hold to a higher standard and expect better out of?

        2. In Canis Credimus   3 years ago

          They don't understand the irony of them commenting in a the comment section of an online magazine they claim to hate, but don't actually.

  10. Marshal   3 years ago

    so too should you care that a woman in small-town Texas spent time in jail for promoting a message that might make you uncomfortable.

    It’s delusional Binion drones on for two paragraphs as if right sliders support it. Reasoners seem completely out of touch with reality.

  11. rloquitur   3 years ago

    Hmmm. I think there's caselaw about the profit motive not undercutting one's free speech rights.

    But this is mind-numbingly stupid:

    "With great respect, the majority opinion is off base in holding that no reasonably competent officer could objectively have thought that Villareal [sic] obtained information from her back-door source within the Laredo Police Department with an 'intent to benefit.'"

    Well, yeah. But last I checked, reliance of the plain language of a statute to do something that violates the First Amendment, doesn't get you immunity. Once the government gives you info, in almost all circumstances, you get to disseminate it.

    That a judge could sanction this behavior in such a dishonest way is disgusting. The cops should be prosecuted under 18 USC 242 and given long long jail terms.

  12. mad.casual   3 years ago

    For context, here's *Buzzfeed's* subheading to the story:

    A woman from Laredo, Texas, who livestreams crime scenes, has been charged for revealing the name of a person who died of an apparent suicide before police had announced it.
    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/amberjamieson/texas-citizen-journalist-lagordiloca-charged

    Notably absent:
    -Laredo Morning Times reports that the arrest affidavit said that, between Jan. 1 and July 26, Goodman and Villarreal called each other over 500 times and "on specific dates that coincide with law enforcement activities."

    -She has frustrated some locals and authorities because she swears, will show things of a graphic nature, and doesn't abide by normal journalistic traditions.

    Which makes it seem like this is less of a case of censorship and more of one selective form of state-sponsored narration vs. another form of state-sponsored narration.

    Fully agreed that Goodman should be punished just as much, if not more, than Villareal but let's not pretend that PIs, stringers, paparazzos, or maybe more accurately distinguished nightcrawlers, are a novel concept nor an unmitigated bastion of justice, morality, or objective journalistic integrity.

    1. SRG   3 years ago

      FWIW I don't recall reading "journalistic traditions" in the text of 1A, but it's been a while since I read it.

      1. rloquitur   3 years ago

        It's in a "little known codicil"--wait, I got the Faber constitution confused with the US Constitution--could happen to anyone.

      2. mad.casual   3 years ago

        FWIW I don’t recall reading “journalistic traditions” in the text of 1A, but it’s been a while since I read it.

        It's probably there right after the part where the journalist phones up her friend in the PD 500 times to get the scoop on other private citizens, but your version of the 1A sounds very different than mine.

        1. rloquitur   3 years ago

          Wow. Glad you're not a judge.

          1. mad.casual   3 years ago

            Says Mr. "The 1A says right there in FL Star v. BJF".

            1. rloquitur   3 years ago

              Whatever man--I am citing cases. You're babbling.

              1. mad.casual   3 years ago

                Not even litigation works strictly by citing case law. Even the case you cited didn't overturn it's precedent based on a narrower reading of the distinct facts. Facts that you yourself ignore when you just say "FL Star v. BJF".

                Or are you the special or "special" kind of lawyer for whom facts don't matter?

    2. rloquitur   3 years ago

      I must have missed that day in law school when they said that Florida Star v. B.J.F was overruled.

    3. SoSoCoCoMoFo   3 years ago

      The leaker is obviously the only one who has even arguably broken any (constitutional) laws, but you want to punish the journalist for somehow making Goodman do it?

      1. mad.casual   3 years ago

        The leaker is obviously the only one who has even arguably broken any (constitutional) laws,

        The Constitution forbids police from disclosing facts to the media? Do you have SRG's copy of 'The Unwritten And Truly Factual Version Of The Constitution' too?

        As I highlighted above, unlike Snowden/Greenwald or Manning/Assange, there's no indication that this is some sort of cover up any more than it's forcing the police to act in accordance with the law rather than as an unConstitutional 3rd Party.

        1. rloquitur   3 years ago

          Well, if the government compels you to provide information, an argument could be constructed that disseminating it violates the Constitution. There's a recent Supreme Court case involving Kamala "Boudoir Interview" Harris when she was Cali Ag.

          Prez: Joe "Showers" Biden.
          VP: Kamala "Boudoir Interview" Harris.

          A match made in heaven.

        2. SoSoCoCoMoFo   3 years ago

          This was not "the police" disclosing facts to the media. It was apparently a police employee leaking confidential information to a third party.

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  14. Noorondoor   3 years ago

    Given that most journalists are leftists, I'm okay with locking them up by any means possible. That ugly, tattooed, fat dyke in the picture belongs in a jail cell.

    1. Super Scary   3 years ago (edited)
  15. Rossami   3 years ago

    The headline for this article seriously overstates the issue.

    Yes, she was arrested - and that was wrong. The charges, from Reason's own article over a year ago, were "dismissed as baseless and the law ruled unconstitutionally vague." So, no, this case won't and can't "make it a crime to be a journalist".

    This case is merely about (un)qualified immunity - is the reported entitled to personally hold the arresting officers accountable for their actions. The state is not appealing the dismissal of the original case. So even if the answer is that she cannot sue the officers for their abuse, the underlying law remains invalid as "unconstitutionally vague".

    1. rloquitur   3 years ago

      The problem is that a journo still can't beat the ride.

    2. Marshal   3 years ago

      Wow, that’s quite a mistake.

      1. rloquitur   3 years ago

        They're directionally correct--the issue is that even after this case, they could use this law more creatively against another journo.

        1. Marshal   3 years ago

          Also not true since the prior court case has clearly established that such detention is not lawful.

          1. rloquitur   3 years ago

            You mean like Florida Star v. B.J.F.

            The existence vel non of a court case may not slow them down as there are a myriad of different circumstances that the cops will rely on.

      2. mad.casual   3 years ago (edited)

        Wow, that’s quite a mistake.

        Yeah. And, just like police shouldn’t be able to pick up people off the street and just hold them for any reason, there’s a very valid libertarian and free speech interest in police being able to pick people up off private property and/or for shouting down or talking over someone else’s speech.

        Kind of an odd libertarian stance that trespassing in the Capitol gets you jail time without trial and nothing else happened, but a journalist coordinating with police to dox private citizens and getting the charges dismissed is a threat to the 1A.

        1. rloquitur   3 years ago

          Not really--once you accept the fact that citizens have the right to disseminate information, then the "how" of the info gathering isn't an issue. It's why I am not saying the Times should be punished for disseminating info re: Trump's tax returns.

          1. mad.casual   3 years ago (edited)

            Not really–once you accept the fact that citizens have the right to disseminate information, then the “how” of the info gathering isn’t an issue.

            This is just abjectly retarded. And is the core fault of Binion’s reporting. The case is only a threat to the 1A if you assume journalism and the 1A to be a “Go anywhere you want, take anything you want, and give it to whomever you want.” license. Here in the real world, citizens, including those doing the reporting and those being reported on equally, have a right to privacy and be secure in their possessions. Even if the victims or the PD didn’t argue it in this case, it’s there.

            Must really suck to be such a Constitutional scholar and only be able to view the world through a strict “FL Star v. BJF!” lens. Do you need me to actually cite the 4A and 5A and the case law around it or is a one sentence summary too rambling and incoherent for you?

            Information may want to be free, and people have liberty to disseminate information, that liberty is not even remotely boundless across all possibilities of how they disseminate it. Quite the opposite.

            1. rloquitur   3 years ago

              Fourth Amendment/Fifth Amendment? There is no Constitutional right to privacy that can be violated by a non-state actor.

        2. JoeB   3 years ago

          Pelosi's just mad she couldn't machine-gun the crowd.

  16. TJJ2000   3 years ago

    "Here's some news to publish"
    "That's NOT public information; your going to jail.."
    Ya; Sounds way too much like a witch-hunting tactic to me.

    If they are justified to do anything they should be putting the 'leak' (their own) into jail "Barbara".

  17. Its_Not_Inevitable   3 years ago

    I don't know about all that legalese, but I think it's pretty obvious this quiet and demure professional journalist pictured above would never do anything just for attention.

  18. Libertariantranslator   3 years ago

    That Judge James C. has got to be the most aptly named critter on the bench.

  19. Make Guantanamo great again   3 years ago

    Binion is a really bad writer. Makes every effort to turn a simple story into something confusing by injecting political propaganda.

  20. Mickey Rat   3 years ago

    She obtained and published private information on certain individuals that she somehow deemed newsworthy. In other words, she invaded those people's privacy in obtaining the information government sources are not legally allowed to give out.

    There is a tension between freedom of the press and other citizen's privacy rights. The government has potentially great amounts of information on all of us that we would not necessarily like to be made public by a journalist deciding they have a "scoop". I am not sure what the right answer is here, but I expect this journalist is a seedy piece of work.

    1. rloquitur   3 years ago

      Florida Star v. BJF---that answers your question.

      1. mad.casual   3 years ago (edited)

        “On purpose by working with police, on accident when sued by private citizens… the media can doxx whomever they like, whenever they like, no unforeseen consequences to be questioned later because superprecedent! Libertarianism FTW!” – rloquitur

        1. rloquitur   3 years ago

          The First Amendment says that the government cannot criminalize such behavior. Maybe that's not how the law should be--but that's what the law is. Remember, all agree that the arrest was a violation--question is liability.

          1. mad.casual   3 years ago

            The First Amendment says that the government cannot criminalize such behavior.

            Per you, Florida Star v. BJF says that, not the 1A. The former can be overturned without overturning the latter.

            1. rloquitur   3 years ago

              You are right that the Constitution is more important than "What we [i.e., SCOTUS] have said about it," but like I said, all agree that her actions were constitutionally protected free speech. And cops are supposed to follow the Constitution as expounded by the Supreme Court.

              The cops should be prosecuted. I'd have zero problems sending them to prison for 10 years.

      2. Mickey Rat   3 years ago (edited)

        And has this been tested, say, against laws making it illegal to dox an alleged rape victim?

        1. mad.casual   3 years ago

          Livecasting every police action is really going to make the argument in favor of bodycams, journalists as a protected class, and public platforms much more interesting.

        2. rloquitur   3 years ago

          See Florida Star v. B.J.F.

          1. mad.casual   3 years ago

            Why, it's right there! Project Veritas is innocent because the FBI would never do anything disingenuous! The Whitmer kidnappers were innocent because the FBI wouldn't tell them anything that was illegal! How have all these lawyers, privacy experts, and constitutional scholars been missing it for all these years? You must have some insight into the immaculate virtue of the FBI and LEOs that they, all of them, do not.

            You do realize the Sheriff's office settled out of FL Star v. BJF, right? That the facts of the case were civil liability about an accidental disclosure and not an intentional one, right? That you keep saying "FL Star v. BJF!" like it's Roe v. Wade when it's clearly not, right? That even if FL Star v. BJF is precedent, Buck v. Bell is still precedent, and very, very wrong too, right?

        3. mad.casual   3 years ago

          It's just nonsense. Legal spaghetti-bowl nonsense. rloquitur cites 'FL Star v. BJF' even though that specifically doesn't overturn the broader precedent Cox Broadcasting Corp. v. Cohn, which was decided not on the 1A but on Georgia's shield law and right to privacy. So, rather than admit it's an actual no-shit right to privacy v. 1A conflict, Binion and rloquitur instead try to pull a retarded legal rhetorical hat trick where there's no 1A in the hat, no right to privacy up their sleeve, but you reach into the hat and pull the 1A out of the hat and then insist everybody's 1A rights are protected in the hat that contains no 1A.

          1. rloquitur   3 years ago

            I can explain it to you; I cannot understand it for you.

            "Right to privacy"--enforceable (as a constitutional matter) against a private party?

  21. Libertariantranslator   3 years ago

    Francisco d'Anconia had no intent to benefit. "I thought you would recognize it as an honest effort to practice what the whole world is preaching. Doesn't everyone believe that it is evil to be selfish? I was totally selfless in regard to the San Sebastian project. Isn't it evil to pursue a personal interest? I had no personal interest in it whatever. Isn't it evil to work for profit? I did not work for profit—I took a loss."

    1. Utkonos   3 years ago

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  22. Anastasia Beaverhausen   3 years ago

    She's not a journalist - she just has a Facebook page.

  23. NeedleFactory   3 years ago

    From the article: At the core of Villarreal's misfortune is a Texas law that allows the state to prosecute someone who obtains nonpublic information from a government official if he or she does so "with intent to obtain a benefit."
    My understanding of human action (from Ludwig von Mises's book by that name) is that every decision taken by a human is an attempt to "gain a benefit" in the sense that all alternative actions would (prospectively) yield less benefit than the action taken.
    Therefore the Texas law, as written, is nonsense; so Villarreal is innocent. QED.

  24. RENATA the rational   3 years ago

    Either the stories were not routine OR we should see a mile-high bunch of routine reporters in the slammer so what did you actually mean to say?

  25. JohnZ   3 years ago

    America has no business claiming press freedom as long as Julian Assange remains in prison. As long as Edward Snowden remains on the run . As long as Glenn Greenwald is threatened by the thugs in Washington. As long as the MSM continues to act as a mouth piece for the FBI, CIA, White House and the rest of the corrupted government.
    We all know what's going to happen to Assange once he enters American territory.
    Hint: He did not hang himself.
    As long as the government uses its power to harass and intimidate journalists such as James O'Keefe/Project Veritas for doing what the rest of the lazy paid for whores in the MSM should have been doing, the government will get away with anything and the people will be kept in the dark.
    When the Washington Post declares" democracy dies in Darkness"yet they are just as guilty of publishing lies ,distortions and outright propaganda, exposing the hypocrisy that permeates throughout the MSM.

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  29. Sanctimonica   3 years ago

    That law may (and almost certainly does) violate the constitution, so strike it down. But until that happens, officers are entitled to enforce the laws on the books. Ho was wrong: qualified immunity shields these officers.

  30. Master   3 years ago

    The real problem here is that the 5th Circuit is full of incompetent boobs that feel they are overwhelmed with complaints, that they only have time for "certain kinds" of parties. They are so bad that I even asked President Trump for an appointment to fix the circuit for them.

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