Tonight on The Independents: Peter Suderman on Obamacare, Jim Epstein on Charter School Closures, Moynihan & McInnes on Ukraine & Weed, Plus the Trump vs. Nugent Game and Sexy After-Show!

Tonight's live episode of The Independents (Fox Business Network 9 pm ET, 6 pm PT; repeats three hours later) starts again with the latest from Ukraine, this time with commentary from panelists Michael C. Moynihan of The Daily Beast (Reason archive here) and filmmaker/TakiMag weirdo Gavin McInnes. Speaking of Ukraine, here's a spot from last night featuring Buck Sexton of The Blaze:

The M&M boys are also slated to comment on President Barack Obama's shiny new $3.9 trillion budget proposal, Washington, D.C.'s decision today to decriminalize marijuana, and the difference—if there is any—between Ted Nugent and Donald Trump.

Beloved Reason Senior Editor Peter Suderman will be on to discuss the latest anticipated delay in Obamacare, and the law's stubborn unpopularity among the very people it was intended to help most. Beloved Reason.tv Producer Jim Epstein will describe today's rally against New York Mayor Bill De Blasio's policy of shutting down charter schools. And Reason-comments heartthrob Kmele Foster will break down Apple CEO Tim Cook telling investors who do not believe that humankind is warming the planet to "get out of this stock."

The online-only after-show tonight can theoretically be seen at this link, and is sure to be at least PG-13. As per usual, tweet out to @IndependentsFBN, use the hashtag #indFBN, and some of your snark may be used live.

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[Fist of Etiquette]

Moynihan is back? Yes!

[Fist of Etiquette]

And Suderman? What's going on here?

[GILMORE]

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Fist of Etiquette|3.4.14 @ 8:25PM|#

Moynihan is back? Yes!
....
And Suderman? What's going on here?

TAG TEAM STEEL CAGE INDEPENDENTS NIGHT

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Any Tulpa sightings today?

[Slammer]

Not under the Tulpa handle I'm almost positive. Probably a new puppet.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I saw a few new names that could have been him.

[SIV]

Somebody named "marshaul" responding to Marshall Gill. "Blue" Tulpa was around a bit as well so I'd say YES.

[Special Agent Marc F Cheney]

That's just the kind of thing Tulpa would say. *narrows eyes*

[Cdr Lytton]

Wait a minute. Swiss Servator is the only one I know that narrows eyes...

Who isn't a sock around here?

[Agammamon]

H&R is sort of like 'The Man Who Was Thursday'.

[Swiss Servator, mehr K?se!]

Hey?!!! It is the only expression my Swiss Masters will allow me to have!

[Fist of Etiquette]

When is Tim Cavanaugh, Gentleman Lifeguard, going to be on?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Gentleman Lifeguard.

I bet they had a falling out. East coast west coast thing.

[johnl]

Cavanaugh dishes out the red meat out of NOVA, not the West Coast. After a stint at The Daily Caller, he's now at National Review. I hereby so notify Corning, who I know is a TC fan.

[Fist of Etiquette]

So he must have finally unloaded that Cali property.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

The M&M boys

Maris and Mantle?

[BiMonSciFiCon]

And Reason-comments heartthrob Kmele Foster...

While this is true, the reason comments are not without our love for Matt (kibby) and Kennedy (all of the male (and some of the female) commenters). Also, I am strong supporter of Matt and Kennedy's air drumming.

I hope you guys get moved to Fox, or at least get a special every now and again, like Stossel.

[Wae]

Look behind this so called Euromaidan movement and who do you see? The Jews:

Vitali Klitchko - his grandma's name was Tamara Efimovna Etinzon (!);
Yulia Timoshenko - her grandpa's name was Abram Kelmanovich Kapitelman (!), in the Jewish school #3 (where he worked before WWII) of Sniatyn city in Ivano-Frankivsk region a plaque was put in his memory;
The leader of the "Svoboda" Tyahnybok's grandma's "true Ukranian" name was Frotman (!);
Senya Yatsenyuk's mom Maria Grigoryevna (nee Bakai), belongs to the ancient Jewish family, rising to the authoritative interpreter of the Talmud Rabbi Bakai.
Oligarch Poroshenko at birth was Waltsman.
Lutsenko has an Israeli passport.
Former mayor of Odessa, Klitchko's right hand - Edward Iosifovich Gurwitz
Finally, the most extreme extremist of them - Dmitro Korchinski, Gurwitz associate - a Jew.

But the dominance of the movement by the Jews is one big coincidence according to idiot libertarians, like it always is. Pattern recognition is not their strong suit.

[Wasteland Wanderer]

Hmm...so is Merkin also Mary? I had always thought that they were probably separate, but Mary went nuts in last night's Independents thread, and now we seem to have a new Merkin incarnation in tonight's thread. Too strange a coincidence.

[Wasteland Wanderer]

Oh, and on that note, fuck off Merkin/Mary/Tulpa/whoever the fuck you are. Seek help.

[BardMetal]

Hey wait I thought I was Merkin? What the hell?

[Wasteland Wanderer]

Merkin = 'Murican = American = a racist troll that may be one of Mary's alternate personalities.

[BardMetal]

I wonder if that guy is really a racist troll or just some lunatic pretending to be one. I sometimes wonder if he's really a leftist trying to parody what they think evil right-winger tea baggers think, or someone trying to poison the debate on certain issues.

[Sevo]

As an agent provocateur, s/he's a total failure.

[Gene]

Laughable this one.

[Special Agent Marc F Cheney]

Shut up, Tulpa.

[Anonymous Coward]

Sup Murican.

[Sevo]

Wae|3.4.14 @ 8:37PM|#
"Look behind this so called Euromaidan movement and who do you see? The Jews:"

Hey. Murkin! Fuck off!

[GILMORE]

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Wae|3.4.14 @ 8:37PM|#
Look behind this so called Euromaidan movement and who do you see? The Jews

I thought they were all fascist Nazis.

Geez, I told you trolls to get your racist spin *right*! You're confusing the progs!

[Bobarian]

I hate jewish Nazis, they're the worst.

[BardMetal]

Well I suppose technically a bunch of Jews could start a National Socialist movement. I mean it's a form of government.

[Warrren]

At least it's an ethos.

[jesse.in.mb]

The Jews must have zero downtime for leisure. Every time I look, cabals of them are micromanaging all the world's affairs.

Henceforth it shall be known as the J00oooOOish work ethic.

[Raven Nation]

Every time I look, cabals of them are micromanaging all the world's affairs.

And, let's be honest - it hasn't worked out real well for them over the last 120 years or so.

[BardMetal]

Only the last 120 years? Pretty sure things haven't been working out well for the Jews since at least...um damn.. Is there any point in history when things were working out for them?

Shit even when the left Egypt they had to wander around the desert for 40 years.

[Raven Nation]

Well, true. But most Jewish global-control conspiracy theories only go back to about the late 19th century.

[BardMetal]

I guess during the middle ages they thought more locally, just poisoning wells and what not.

[Raven Nation]

Yeah, the main charges were blood sacrifice of local Christian children. But, as far as I know, accusations that the Jews were running the world didn't really emerge until the financial meltdowns in the late 19th century. Then Tsarist Russia ramped things up with the Protocols.

[BuSab Agent]

It was pretty decent during the reign of King Solomon, if I recall correctly.

[Tejicano]

He also misspelled "Wah!" in his handle.

[Sevo]

How long before we see some holes in the comments?
Hey, Mike! Clean up on Aisle #3! Thanks a bunch!

[BardMetal]

I wish they wouldn't delete posts. Why not just let people advertise their vileness and stupidity?

Plus censorship on a libertarian website seems a little strange to me.

[Dweebston]

Not at all. If 'Murkin spouted that shit in my home I'd show him the door. If he persisted in putting on crude disguises and continuing to belabor the point I'd probably escalate the violence as I show him the door.

[sarcasmic]

Q) What's the object of a Jooish football game?

A) To the the quarter back.

----------

Q) Know the how the Grand Canyon was made?

A) A Joo dropped a quarter down a gopher hole.

----------

Shit, that's all the Joo jokes I can think of off the top of my head.

Here's a good negro joke

Q) Why don't you ever see a black man at a square dance?

A) Every time someone yells "Hoedown" he thinks his woman been shot!

[Derpetologist]

Ever heard of a Jewish Cadillac? It stops on a dime and picks it up.

A Jewish boy went to his father. "Dad, can I please have $20 to take my girlfriend on a date? Please, just $20."

The dad says "$15? What do you need $10 for?"

A frantic Jewish woman ran down the beach shouting "Help! Help! My son the doctor is drowning!"

[PapayaSF]

A Jewish mother is at the beach with her small son. Suddenly a huge wave sweeps him out to sea.

"Oh please, God, return my son to me!!" she pleads to the sky.

Suddenly another huge wave crashes onto the beach, leaving her son on the sand, perfectly fine.

The woman looks up again at the sky and says: "He had a hat!"

[BardMetal]

Did you hear how copper wire was invented? Two Jews fighting over a penny.

(You could also substitute Scots for Jews sense both groups have the same thrifty sterotype)

[Derpetologist]

The Poet MacTeagle agrees:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp4mENrAnq4

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Sevo, you prick, I haven't stopped laughing at the negro joke. I just watched '42' god dammit!

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Sorry, I meant Sarcasmic.

[Sevo]

Hey, I wish it was mine!

[Derpetologist]

The mood at the forums lately is a lot like John Carpenter's The Thing.

We know that there's a shape-shifting monster on the loose, but who is still human?

Incidentally, I stumbled upon this wonderful video that tells the story from the monster's perspective. It ends with a nice homage to STEVE SMITH.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsJoit7EQU4

[Wasteland Wanderer]

I was thinking more Battlestar Galactica, but The Thing works too.

[kibby]

But who's number six?

[SweatingGin]

Wait, which one was Grace Park?

[kibby]

Eight.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Yummy.

[Fist of Etiquette]

I think it's the remake/prequel The Thing. But who is Eric Christian Olsen...? And who is the dog?

[Sevo]

Yoda.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

That's east, their backs glow bright red during orgasm. Which makes you wonder how Baltar never picked up on that.

[Wasteland Wanderer]

Maybe he was a stickler for the Missionary position?

[kibby]

She was on top in every sex scene, wasn't she? Given Baltar's personality, I imagine he was pretty into that.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

I guess, but supposedly they had been having a passionate affair for like two years.

Not once did he want to try doggie or reverse cowgirl?

[kibby]

She seemed pretty in charge of the whole situation.

[jesse.in.mb]

He was raised in a very conservative home and while he rebelled in many ways he was never able to get past keeping his eyes closed during sex?

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

What the fuck are you guys talking about?

[SweatingGin]

I feel like:

Look behind this so called __________ and who do you see? The Jews:

Could make a great meme.

[Special Agent Marc F Cheney]

I believe that it is, in fact, one of the older memes.

[C. Anacreon]

Actually, it is the basis of the Mad Libs form of the Koran.

[Anonymous Coward]

Look behind this so called Deep Dish Pizza and who do you see? The Jews:

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Look behind this so-called artisinal mayonnaise and who do you see? The Jews.

[BardMetal]

Hipster Jews!!

[GILMORE]

"Look behind this so called: "Public Broadcasting System" and who do you see? The Jews"

Major funding for this program was provided by the Patty and Jay Baker Foundation, Judith B. Resnick, the Blavatnik Family Foundation, The Barbara and Buddy Freitag Family Fund, The Laurents / Hatcher Foundation, The National Museum of American Jewish History, The Ira and Leonore Gershwin Philanthropic Fund, The Shubert Organization, The Leslie and Roslyn Goldstein Foundation, and The Raymond Tye and Family Charitable Trust.

Major funding for Great Performances is provided by the Irene Diamond Fund, The National Endowment for the Arts, the LuEsther T. Mertz Charitable Trust, Vivian Milstein, The Agnes Varis Trust, the Starr Foundation, The Philip and Janice Levin Foundation, and PBS viewers Like THE JEWS

[Warty]

Look behind this so called circumcision...

[Slammer]

Look behind this so called Independents TV show and who do you see? Hollywood Jews.

[Soros' Wank-noose]

Is that anything like the Hollywood hills?

The Hollywood sign, maybe?

[Sudden]

Look behind this so called Arbeit Macht Frei sign and who do you see? The Jews

[BardMetal]

Wow.. that was kind of dark. Well played.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

INDEPENDENTS ASSEMBLE!

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkADj0TPrJA

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Phil Collins is the Antichrist.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?f.....j52fI#t=78

[GILMORE]

Taking bets on =

1 - Suderman AND Moynihan amend their respective "Faux Hawk" and "Hitler Haircut" to something more conservative

2 - Kennedy wears some kind of eye-damaging color out of spite for the Schoolgirl comments last night

3 - Matt looks normal

4 - Kmele uses the maroon tie.

[Slammer]

5- Kennedy still doesn't shut the fuck up.

[GILMORE]

Hi Mary

[Slammer]

Nope.

[kibby]

What is Kmele using the maroon tie for?

[sarcasmic]

To strangle the annoying bitch with the over-sized earrings.

[kibby]

!!! You may escort yourself out of this thread, sir.

[sarcasmic]

See my 8:38 and c-ya!

[sarcasmic]

*8:58* du-oh!

[GILMORE]

In the library?

No, I meant 'wears'. But I consider ties *tools* of fashion. You see, my English, is not so good. Here in Luxembourg we speak so many language.

[Derpetologist]

Look behind this so-called anti-Semitism and what do you see? JEWS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8TZ9C_6LRk

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

That was at UC Irvine, where our mascot is the anteater. Anteaters are slang for uncircumcised penises.

Makes sense now, doesn't it?

[BardMetal]

Yeah so are Turtlenecks, and guess who probably invented the turtleneck?

[seguin]

Sterling Archer...

No wait, that was the tactilneck.

[Derpetologist]

Is it bad that whenever I see Muslims chanting, I imagine them saying:

Chant, Chant, We shall chant!
We shall chant until we can't!

[SIV]

COSMOTARIANS CONGREGATE!

[Max Power]

I've already made my cocktail (sazerac).

[Sudden]

Last day of drinking before my lenten vow. Later fellas. Time for Sudden to get a manhattan.

[Anonymous Coward]

Laissez les bon temps rouler

[jesse.in.mb]

I gave up lent one year for lent and never took it back up.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

I'm drinking... wait for it.... Bud Light Platinum. I'm so ashamed, but I'm all out of everything else.

[jesse.in.mb]

Umm. Do you want to come over? I can keep you awash in screwdrivers for the duration of the show. If you bring limes it can be G&Ts;.

[jesse.in.mb]

Guinnes, Killians or Golden Road IPA on the beer front.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

I have two poorly behaved kids. That's why I'm drinking the Bud Light instead of nothing.

I told them to hurry the fuck up and finish eating dinner, and now my 2 year old is eating his rice 1 grain at a time.

[SweatingGin]

Yea, my kids were fighting going to bed and are at risk of not making it to the age where they can sue me.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

We reached the 60 minute mark, and I got pissed and turned out the lights. He's still sitting in the dark in the dinning room, eating his rice, 1 grain at a time.

[jesse.in.mb]

Is it Trader Joe's chimichurri rice?

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Baja Fresh. Only my 6 year old eats spicy hot food so far.

[Tejicano]

Lucky.

My five year old is still so picky about food I doubt he will go for Sushi with the Wasabi before he's 10. I can't see getting him hooked on real Mexican food until high school.

[BardMetal]

What would be more shameful that, or drinking prison wine made in the toilet?

Discuss.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

I don't see the difference. This tastes like sweetened piss.

[BardMetal]

True, but making your own prison wine in the toilet would have saved money, and would have required some ingenuity on your part, so I think the Bud light is actually more shameful.

[SweatingGin]

I'm still sweating out last night's bourbon

[sarcasmic]

Time to go next door and smoke some marijuana with the old neighbor who, even though he's not Catholic, quits the good herb for Lent.

I might as well quit with him. Clean up my pee. As it is I hate my job, but there's no point in applying for a new one if I can't pass a piss-test. Fuck it. Quit for a while, and start back up when I get tired of my resume being rejected or ignored.

[GILMORE]

Cavuto wears black tie.

Who died?

[Slammer]

Prison shirt!!!

[Fist of Etiquette]

Tiny hoops.

[Fist of Etiquette]

"He's got my vote."

That's a verbal contract.

[Fist of Etiquette]

SHOWING THE CLEAVAGE.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

It's a menage a trois of horrible fashion.

[kibby]

Matt, why does the no tie thing totally work? Keep doing this.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Is Foster wearing shoulder pads?

[BakedPenguin]

You know, I like Mike Moynihan, but damn if he doesn't look like Crispin Glover.

[Fist of Etiquette]

I MADE THAT JOKE ALREADY.

[Fist of Etiquette]

And Dubya got all up in his grill when he invaded Georgia.

[BardMetal]

That was back during the Beijing Olympics. Pretty sure Russia took gold in that particular contest. I think they're going to get the gold medal in the Ukraine as well.

[William of Purple]

Whats the link that works

[All-Seeing Monocle]

http://www.baqiworld.com/2011/.....ness-live/

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Do the ladies (and some of the dudes, NTTAWT) a service and pop a few more buttons on that pink shirt, Matt.

[kibby]

Yeahhhh, I like Matt. But not quite so much as all that. This is unbuttoned enough for now.

[Anonymous Coward]

But if Matt doesn't unbutton it down to 3 or 4, how will you been able bask in the raw testosterone oozing from Matt?

[Rhywun]

You spelled "Kmele" wrong.

[BigT]

Putin lost already? WTF. It seems he has confused everyone and will get what he wants - regime change.

[BardMetal]

Why do get the impression that Putin could send T-72 tanks into Western Europe, and raise a Russian flag over the Reichstag, and there would still be people claiming he lost?

Crimea is going to be annexed by Russia, how is there any doubt about this, and how would anyone consider that a loss?

The Crimea is more important to Russians then anything we could offer them in return or anything we or the pathetic E.U. could threaten them with, and so it's theirs.

[Fist of Etiquette]

They might want to check the studio for a nitrous leak.

[William of Purple]

There's a funny Ziggy posted in the green room.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

"Pig says 'my wife is a slut'?"

[Fist of Etiquette]

Now that's a complaint.

[Max Power]

Ziggy, will you ever win?

[C. Anacreon]

"Oh, Ziggy, will you never learn?"

[C. Anacreon]

One of these two quotes was C. Montgomery Burns during his portrait-posing session. Which of us actually nailed it? I'm guessing you now that I read both.

[William of Purple]

Smithers: [reading to Burns] So Ziggy goes to the repair shop, there's a sign on the doorbell reading `out of order'. Burns: Heh heh. Ah, Ziggy. Will you ever win?

[Max Power]

I goggled it before I posted. Is that cool or lame?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Oh, would you, Foster? Would you like to see tax reform? Is that what you'd like to see? Tax reform? Really?

[BigT]

Haven't all Obama's budgets been simple propaganda? To arouse his base.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Yes, arouse is the correct term.

[BigT]

Trying your Brown Shugga Substitute tonight. Nice!!

[Episiarch]

Your?!? YOUR?!? Who do you think told him about it? And he's the one who lives in the state where the brewery is located!

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

You get credit for Hairy Eyeball. You shit all over Lagunitas Sucks the other day.

[BigT]

Moved on to a Black Butte Porter (Deschutes Brewery). Kind of mild after the Shugga, but not bad.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

I'm drinking something....
less delicious.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Jeans coupons? I never find those.

[Soros' Wank-noose]

It's an Old Navy thing.

[kibby]

PJ!!!!

[Episiarch]

David Bowie as a bumper is acceptable. Kennedy's stripes are not.

[William of Purple]

Each stripe is made up of a billion tiny american flags, you commie!

[Sevo]

Guys,
Do you do a morning-after fashion critique like after the Oscars?

[SweatingGin]

Only night-of, more like Joan Rivers at the Oscars.

[Fist of Etiquette]

You're not an adult until you're 27.

[seguin]

If only i were born just a little later, I'd be young forever.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

You're playing right into her hands, Kennedy. By mocking and shaming her she'll become a meaningless cipher for the Left who thinks that all those things are rights that need to be paid for.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Is she saying Welch has a thing for 18-year-old girls?

[Episiarch]

Damn, nice looking girl. Why can't she just do porn and pay her way that way?

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

She's too big of a whore for that.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Moyinhan is all over that.

[Episiarch]

I'll bet he is.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

He's a vampire, right? So I imagine so.

[Episiarch]

I thought Moynihan was a zombie, not a vampire, but what do I know.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

And nice foreshadowing, unless I'm on tape delay.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

No case. None.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

The way this country is going by the time your sons are 18 you'll be obligated to pay the mortgage on their first house.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Fine. I get to pick the "house". It'll have wheels.

[Soros' Wank-noose]

Damn, I can see why that woman became an attorney...

/standard apologies to our locals applies

[Fist of Etiquette]

Pretty as she is, Moynihan recognizes this girl has got to be high maintenance. He's got his head on s swivel.

[SweatingGin]

Those parents failed amazingly.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

I'd rather have them pay for it than us taxpayers.

[Anonymous Coward]

Her friend's dad is tapping that ass. This New Jersey. I fully expect that level of scumbaggery.

[SIV]

Ford Nova? Jeeze Moynihan

[Fist of Etiquette]

Blame the gas leak.

[SIV]

He's only familiar with SAAB and Volvo.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Making fewer things criminal might just reduce crime.

[SIV]

You wanna legalize murder too?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Sometimes.

[jesse.in.mb]

Since the legalization of murder in March there has been a marked decrease in activity of commenters who commented before Fist of Etiquette on Reason's PM Links.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Haven't you guessed? Those are always just my sockpuppets.

[jesse.in.mb]

I thought we were all just your cock puppets.

If not, why have I been letting you put your hand up my butt all this time?

[jesse.in.mb]

cock puppets

Good lord, I need a therapist, clearly.

[Episiarch]

That wasn't on purpose?!?

[jesse.in.mb]

No.

*hangs head in shame*

[Episiarch]

Kmele is dressed like the coolest medieval European history professor ever. Or the smarmiest.

[jesse.in.mb]

Inclusive or, or exclusive or?

[Episiarch]

Exclusive or doesn't make sense here, jesse. It wasn't a logical expression.

(Totally an exclusive or.)

[Soros' Wank-noose]

Umm...I didn't see patches on those elbows. Of course I only looked during the pull-back, but still.

[Episiarch]

I can't tell if it's Moynihan that's stoned, or Kennedy.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

That's because you're stoned.

[Episiarch]

Right, right! Ok, now I get it.

[BigT]

Kennedy the referee.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

A Jerry Rivers jab.

[Fist of Etiquette]

What's with the dead-eyed look from the two male Independents going into the commercial there?

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Kennedy breaks out the bullwhip and peanut butter during the commercials. They know what's coming.

[GILMORE]

Independents Attire Review, March 4 2014

Kennedy = They say vertical stripes elongate the figure. Perhaps this was a conscious choice after the k?k?sei gyaru schoolgirl look that nearly made a thought-criminal out of at least one known viewer of last nights show. Overall? It feels like casual Friday. I am underwhelmed. Girl, colors become you. Neutrality does not.

Matt = The combinations of pink and brown seemingly never cease. Although there must be some small nod to the fact that *at least this is a new shirt* and we're not worried about your hygiene on top of your problematic color combinations.

Kmele = This is sport coat #....5? I can't keep track. And they've all got *texture*. The combo is stellar, the blend of neutral but complementary colors = perfect. Navy ties always look great on blue/grey shirts. He'd again walk home with the prize (yet again) if not for.....

McInnes = Winner of the evening, looking like he'd be completely at ease with either a martini or a Desert Eagle. Both? Is it offensively stylish? Unpossible. he's on TV and he knows it and he's laughing at you and me and everyone else. He's cool when no one is even looking.

Moynihan = At least you got your hair fixed, Hitler. Anything better than weird-scary is an improvement. Hopefully the meds are working and you wont be grinding your teeth while others are talking.

Thank you.

(mcinnes leaned back to scratch his balls in the musical transition segment. The man is a LIVING GOD)

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

FdA got an F-bomb on two minutes of hate. Do you think they are ready for a Godwin?

[GILMORE]

Addendum =

Suderperson #1 =

- Fixes his hair! That would be the evenings winner for those betting that Peter and Mike would both respond favorably to prior coiffeur critiques.

- Peter: When you wear a grey jacket and grey shirt? You look like a high-school art teacher in a smock. It does nothing good for you. Seek help.

[GILMORE]

I forgot to mention that Peter has weaker shoulders than my grandmother. And she's been dead for 15 years.

[kibby]

I'm sorry to say that I just now saw this comment. It is quite literally the best thing I've read all day.

[Peter Suderman]

I haven't had a hair cut for about three weeks, so if I fixed something, I'm not sure it was intentional.

I'll work on the shirt/jacket combo. For the comments section. Because I care. (Really!)

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Who said Manhattan? Good call. Haven't had one of these in a coon's age.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

raaaa...

*goes to google*

cist!

[Francisco d'Anconia]

h/t Sudden

[Fist of Etiquette]

Welcome "back" Peter.

[SIV]

His wife lets him have her discarded draft articles on O-care.

[GILMORE]

(rimshot)

[Episiarch]

Hey look, it's Alfalfa! Where are the rest of the Little Rascals?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Jesus, Suderman. Who dropped a nickel in your slot? Take it down a notch.

[kibby]

He's always so chipper when he's on. It cracks me up.

[Peter Suderman]

I had a second pot of coffee tonight. And went for a run. Left me feeling zippy!

[SIV]

Gavin's good. Who else should they have on from Taki's mag?

[GILMORE]

Jim Goad.

[SIV]

Got my vote

[Fist of Etiquette]

Speaking of tweaking...

[Episiarch]

I am coming to the shocking realization that Peter Suderman is a Muppet. It took me a while, but it's an inescapable conclusion. He's like Beaker's big brother.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Wait until they have him eat a cookie.

[Episiarch]

That's not allowed by his Obamacare plan. He only eats amphetamines.

[Derpetologist]

Not too long ago, I was in a bar. Then the songs Freebird, Don't Stop Believin', and Hotel California were all played in a row. I will never set foot in that bar again.

[Slammer]

"I've had a rough night, and I hate the fucking Eagles, man"

[Winston]

I was in a bar.
Ouch

[seguin]

I think you did that joke wrong.

[Fist of Etiquette]

The internet is the one thing the warlords can't intercept.

[Fist of Etiquette]

CELLPHONES STILL REQUIRE INFRASTRUCTURE.

[Bobarian]

But much cheaper infrastructure.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Warty.

[Episiarch]

Kmele attempts to talk, Kennedy Kennedies him.

[GILMORE]

She left him to drown in an Oldsmobile?

[SIV]

+88

[seguin]

Antisemite!

[Fist of Etiquette]

Being blind is a blessing at those places.

[SweatingGin]

"Anthony Weiner after a viagra bender"

^^ scorcher

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Is the dog going around licking people's asses?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Foster is just mad that the dog isn't fighting anyone.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Is there some kind of irritation between K and K?

[Episiarch]

I want to hear more about Kmele's submissive dog and the associated bestiality.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Every night around 11 Kmele disrobes and breaks out the peanut butter and the dog knows what's coming.

[Episiarch]

...and now I have the picture of Kmele getting humped by Scooby Doo in my head. Thanks, Serious. I'll be back in a few minutes.

(gets out Astroglide)

[kibby]

Okay this is getting creepy/weird. Let's not, boys.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

That ship has left the barn. It can't be undone.

[kibby]

Can making Matt uncomfortable be a new daily show goal?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Back to the Future remake.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

But do they work over water?

[SIV]

Now's the time to shill my fashion blog

[Winston]

I guy who hates cosmotarians has a fashion blog? Irony!

[SIV]

FUCK OFF, TULPA

I'm the most cosmopolitan of paleos

[Winston]

I'm not Tulpa. I was joking. I'm pretty cosmopolitan myself.

[SIV]

My apologies, you can't be too sure ;^)

[jesse.in.mb]

Are you and GILMORE going to Statler and Waldorf the Independents fashion choices now?

[Fist of Etiquette]

The Kenyan pastor completely anti-Mormon.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Amen. Sing it sister.

[kibby]

You can take my bra from my cold, dead breasts. I'd be lost without them.

[SIV]

Check out my tumblr

[kibby]

I would follow you back, but I read it in public. & in front of my mother when I visit.

[SIV]

Totally SFW, well mostly.Tamer than any given issue of Vogue or Vanity Fair. That's fine though.I'm not lacking for followers.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

You'd be lost without your cold dead breasts?

[kibby]

I originally had bra as a plural & neglected to change the rest of the sentence to agree. If only English were Latin.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Shoot. I thought there may have been an interesting story.

[Episiarch]

I go commando every day. Uh, for the Lord.

[Winston]

You Know Who Else went commando every day?

[SIV]

Lt. Col William E. Fairbairn?

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Ahnold?

[Slammer]

Jesus?

[Winston]

I was thinking of Jean Harlow myself.

[seguin]

Francis Marion?

[Slammer]

GBV! GBV! GBV!

[Bobarian]

Trump vs Nuge?

Hopefully with bows.

[Winston]

Can Jennifer Lawrence and Neil Connery join?

[Fist of Etiquette]

I still don't know what Cubic does.

[Episiarch]

The Nuge said something stupid and inflammatory? It's almost...predictable.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

I heard Rand Paul went golfing with Trump last week. Not entirely sure why, but it's good to have friends?

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Trump owns some nice golf courses. I hike near one all the time.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Foster thinks he's qualified to speak for the blacks.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Laughing at such a sexist quote. TIWTANFL!!!!

[kibby]

If I almost fell off my chair at it, what does that say about me?

[jesse.in.mb]

False consciousness?
Stockholm syndrome?

both?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Narcolepsy.

[kibby]

If I claim all of these, will they be covered by Obamacare?

[jesse.in.mb]

Yes. You'll just have to fill out some byzantine paperwork first, but I'm sure you'll manage.

[kibby]

My retinas are scarred from reading Hit & Run & thus no longer function as they should. Can I get someone to assist me in this paperwork?

[Bobarian]

Just log into the website, fill in the requested data, and if you hear anything back, you're probably the victim of spearfishing.

[kibby]

After choking on my water, I actually might need Obamacare. =(

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

You need to attend a seminar on sensitivity at Oberin.

[Fist of Etiquette]

I liked this gigglefest better the first time I saw it, when it was The Five.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

When was this program on Tuesday?

[Winston]

Libertarians are M. Bison fans?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVzAMmpMra8

[GILMORE]

One of Raul Julia's better performances

[Fist of Etiquette]

Button down collar? Yuck.

[kibby]

That's what twelve year-olds wear, man. It's part of their school uniform.

[Episiarch]

SIGNED EPSTEIN'S MOTHER

[Max Power]

He borrowed his dad's blazer to come on the show.

[GILMORE]

Jim Epstein has the pale complexion and red lips of a natural-born strangler.

[Episiarch]

He's fleshier than a serial killer on Prozac.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Pure evil. Fuck teachers unions, and fuck New York City.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Success Academy? This is the most blatant case of false advertising since my suit against the movie The Neverending Story.

[BiMonSciFiCon]

Care to join me in a belt of scotch?

[GILMORE]

Also, who parts their hair down the middle anymore?

Stranglers.

[Episiarch]

He's testing for a pilot with Bronson Pinchot called Perfect Stranglers. They take a lot of Prozac (it's sponsored by Eli Lilly).

[Fist of Etiquette]

Epstein was so close to finishing his point there. But Kennedy is ever ready to pounce.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Joooz!

[Soros' Wank-noose]

Aww, Dammit

[Soros' Wank-noose]

Don't look now, but...JOOOOZ!!1!

[Notorious G.K.C.]

What? I was watching Winston's video.

[jesse.in.mb]

Mousekowitz!?

I think that's my third American Tail references in a week (rolling, not calendar) if anyone is keeping track.

[seguin]

It has been logged with the committee tasked with overseeing these things, yes.

[jesse.in.mb]

Ah, I'm glad that it has been properly cataloged. Your sexuality is unperturbed, I hope?

[seguin]

I've come to terms with the turmoil in nether regions.

It's an uneasy peace.

[seguin]

Apparently, I've lost all possessive pronouns though.

[GILMORE]

Soulless blue eyes, AND a lisp?

Strangler.

[kibby]

Maybe he's Ramsay Bolton?

[JEP]

I would have no idea what you were talking about if I hadn't happened to click the link to your tumblr...

[Bobarian]

Winter is coming...

[JEP]

I hope so. I need to find out when the new season starts...

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Look behind this so-called charter school thing and who do you see? The Jews.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

I've grown tired of my liberal sister throwing at me every possible left-wing meme each we discuss something political. Recently she said "Rand Paul isn't a real libertarian because of his stance on abortion" to which I could but stare blankly at her. I realized they're so far removed and unaware of libertarian principles it shocked me. So, I decided I will ONCE send her a few things to read before she sprouts second-hand crap she reads on Huffington or some other site. Any suggestions for links for beginners?

[JEP]

If you're on facebook, there's a group called 'We the Individuals' that posts some good memes every once in a while.

Also, there's another group called the Bastiat Institute.

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

Bastiat Institute has a lot of Jeffery Tucker.
You may remember Jeffery Tucker from articles such as this and this

[Derpetologist]

Ask her if slavery was immoral before it was illegal. This will get her to consider the possibility that laws are not magic.

I recommend these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUS1m5MSt9k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngpsJKQR_ZE

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Also on Facebook is 'Being Classically Liberal' and 'I Bet Ludwig von Mises Can Get More Fans Than John Maynard Keynes'.

Both post good content on libertarian issues.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Thanks.

Not on FB though.

[JEP]

There are a few here...
http://www.punkrocklibertarians.com/gallery/

[seguin]

That reminds me, does anyone remember conservativepunk.com?

I think I got my first brush with some aspects of libertarian thought there, although as the name implies it was only a few posters.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

My favorite Facebook page: 'I bet this goat can get more fans than Barack Obama'.
It's a picture of a stupid goat.

[Palin's Buttplug]

If you're just against abortion personally it is no big demerit on the LP Purity Test.

If Rand Paul is for building up an anti-abortion security state and imprisoning docs and all the other right-wing whackdoodle stuff then he fails any test of pro-liberty standards.

[Sevo]

Palin's Buttplug|3.4.14 @ 10:01PM|#
"If you're just against abortion personally it is no big demerit on the LP Purity Test."

Go fuck your daddy, shitpile

[Francisco d'Anconia]

God, you are a mendacious twat, Shit Stopper. A lowlife simpleton piece of shit.

[seguin]

You're not original. You're not intelligent. No one likes you, here or in real life - they'll drop you the minute you tell them something other than exactly what they want to hear.

Give up.

[Episiarch]

Go Kmele!

[Francisco d'Anconia]

No Apple? Done!

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

posted from your iPhone.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Posted from my Dell on Windows 8 and Chrome.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Dude, you're getting a half degree increase in temperature.

[Episiarch]

So what's Apple stock being doing since Jobs died?

[Soros' Wank-noose]

Language, Matt!

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Progressives are tolerant all viewpoints that agree with them.

[Episiarch]

Damn, tomorrow's show sounds pretty good.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

How does the live stream work? Do I just take off my pants and turn on the webcam?

[Bobarian]

That's how I do it.

[jesse.in.mb]

I'm curious as to why you were still wearing pants.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Kennedy first, and I'll follow.

[jesse.in.mb]

McInnes would be my bet on most likely to drop trou first.

[Bobarian]

I don't think she ever wears pants.

Now if she goes to the church discussed earlier, I'm all for it.

[Fist of Etiquette]

AH! Lou Dobbs.

[GILMORE]

Why don't we acknowledge what this "passion" for climate change really is?

MARKETING

Its a bullshit public bit of moral flogging so that Apple can maintain a positive public image and not have their screaming liberal core fans get all FOXCONN and shit on them and start questioning their love for a corporation that makes more profit on their devices than ANYONE ELSE IN THE INDUSTRY

So call them panderers. Let them know you don't buy their public displays of moral indignation. Tell them to grow up and be professional.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Correct. Chipotle did the same bullshit today:
http://thinkprogress.org/clima.....e-crisis/#

[Episiarch]

Dude, expecting logic from Apple fanatics is like expecting logic from Doctor Who fanatics. In fact, the amount of overlap probably approaches 1:1.

[Palin's Buttplug]

The shareholders overwhelmingly back the Apple CEO up.

Tesla, Apple, and Google are not going to start listening to Neanderthals.

[Sevo]

Yeah, shitpile, if Tesla had to make money on their cars, they'd be bust.
But lefty assholes like you are just fine handing out taxpayer money to losers.
Go fuck your daddy.

[GILMORE]

No, progressive retards LAP UP the lies because it makes you feel good.

[BigT]

So call them panderers. Let them know you don't buy their public displays of moral indignation. Tell them to grow up and be professional.

And sue them for abandoning their fiduciary responsibility to shareholders.

[seguin]

They're not. They know exactly what their doing. This stuff is fanservice for their idiot prog fanboys. It guarantees that good little proglodytes will be yoked for a few more years on their overpriced, uncompetitive products.

[Sevo]

Was this covered?

"In Kiev, Kerry visits protest sites, promises aid"
http://www.sfgate.com/news/pol.....286473.php

Fine by me; he can afford it.

[GILMORE]

MOTHER OF GOD ITS DOBBS!! KERRY!?! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[jesse.in.mb]

She was always on the interweb.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Free what's-his-face!

[BigT]

Bladder-near Putin?? WTF!!

[Bobarian]

"Why won't you guys appear at the same time?"

They're the same person? An evil alter-ego?

[MJGreen]

Moynihan is a lot of fun when he goes after commies.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Moynihan lays the smackdown on the Commie in absentia.

[Sevo]

Doesn't count. Hit 'em while they're up.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Finally, somebody on the Independents actually calls out the fucking commie.

[BigT]

13 minutes of afterbirth....enough

[GILMORE]

Ooh, tomorrow night sounds like a good show.

Maybe they'll *dress up*?

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

"You look like a hot, young Mr Burns."

THIS IS THE GREATEST THING I HAVE EVER HEARD.

[kibby]

Gavin is becoming my new favorite person ever.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Agreed. They need to let him speak a lot more.

[William of Purple]

I was thinking of a different Gavin

[kibby]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Episiarch]

"These guys? They smoooooke."

[Warrren]

Again I'm too late to join in the fun! Thanks a lot, Jews!

[Snark Plissken]

I feel your pain, Aryan brother.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

I step out to get dinner and the thread just dies? I'm more important to the success of this commentariat than I thought!

[Snark Plissken]

Looks like Epi killed it, again. That guy's more toxic than a cyanide enema.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

It's been slow after the show for weeks.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Would adding some Candace Swanepoel help?

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Nope. I'll be in my bunk.

[kibby]

What did you bring us to eat? It's awfully rude to not share...

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

You don't share your booze, so why should I share my California burrito from Albertacos?

[kibby]

I can't afford to share my booze on this budget! Heck, I can hardly afford booze to begin with. These other guys, though? They could totally afford to share.

So the logical conclusion is you should share the burrito with me & ignore these cheap assholes.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Burritos aren't meant to be shared, that's why they are wrapped up tightly in a tortilla.

But you raise a valid point. If I get carne asada fries next time I will share them.

[Sevo]

Ban Francisco decides So. San Francisco merchants need some help, while politico pulls a photo-op at a pity-party:
"S.F. supervisors back ban on sale of plastic water bottles"
[...]
"Supervisor David Chiu appears at a memorial service to mark the first anniversary of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting"...
Oh, isn't he just a..............
slimy piece of work?
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/.....289089.php

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

"I want to remind people that not long ago, our world was not addicted to plastic water bottles," he said. "Before (the 1990s), for centuries, everybody managed to stay hydrated."

Can't refute that logic. Hell, not long ago, relatively speaking, our world was not addicted to oil and automobiles.

For centuries, people managed to stay mobile with horses and buggies.

[Sevo]

And please notice the pejorative "addicted".
Yes, if I don't get my plastic bottle fix, why, the neighborhood knows something is wrong! Please, PLEASE, just one more bottle and then I promise I'll quit!

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

I'm addicted to food. Help me, please!

[Sevo]

Hey, the BoS will ban that next!

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

Free money is no longer the stuff of utopia

[Sevo]

Never heard of him before, but Bill Jordan is now on the shreek and Tony list;
brain-dead lefties who fancy themselves worthy of more a dull pencil to scribble their infantile 'thoughts'.

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

Satire, right?

why the government's proposals on executive pay won't work ? and why we need a maximum wage.

[Snark Plissken]

Monbiot, the British Krugman or the British Yglesias?

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

I read his name as moonbat, probably for a good reason.

[Snark Plissken]

I think he's like an open Marxist writer for the Guardian. At least what I've seen is pretty openly Marxist.

[seguin]

No. Monbiot had a least a moment of clarity when the CRU emails came out.

Krugnuts and SadBeard are lost in the depths of derpness.

[Sevo]

Naah. Stupidity with footnotes.
It is always a mistake when a third party sticks a nose in a free transaction between two parties.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Why I hate white belly dancers

When I have argued, online and in person, with white women belly dancers, they have assured me that they learned to dance from Arab women and brown women. This is supposed to make the transaction OK. Instead, I point out that all this means is that it is perfectly all right with these teachers that their financial well-being is based on self-exploitation.

As a follow-up, white belly dancers then focus on the sisterly and community aspect of belly dance. They claim that the true exploiter of belly dancing is Hollywood, and the Egyptian film industry, which helped take belly dancing out of women's homes and placed it directly under the male gaze. Here, the argument white belly dancers try to make ignores the long history of white women's appropriation of Eastern dancing and becomes that this, the learning and performance of belly dance, is not about race and appropriation, but about gender and resisting the patriarchy and how all of us belly dancing together is a giant middle finger to men and their male gaze-y ways.

Jesus Christ. But it gets worse.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

But, here's the thing. Arab women are not vessels for white women to pour themselves and lose themselves in; we are not bangles or eyeliner or tiny bells on hips. We are human beings. This dance form is originally ours, and does not exist so that white women can have a better sense of community; can gain a deeper sense of sisterhood with each other; can reclaim their bodies; can celebrate their sexualities; can perform for the female gaze. Just because a white woman doesn't profit from her performance doesn't mean she's not appropriating a culture. And, ultimately, the question is this: Why does a white woman's sisterhood, her self-reclamation, her celebration, have to happen on Arab women's backs?

Okay, who wants to bet there is a much more personal reason that this woman has a problem with attractive women with toned bodies shaking it?

It's truly impossible to parody these kinds of people.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

That's this woman calling out white belly dancers

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Horatio Sanz is a belly dancer?

[Sevo]

SF'd 'this woman' link

[Sevo]

Should have left it SF'd; ugh.

[jesse.in.mb]

They shouldn't be too toned if they're belly dancing. Things don't ripple quite right.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Your non-expert opinion is noted.

[jesse.in.mb]

I've spent many a Friday night at Babouch in San Pedro. While I wouldn't claim expertise, but I've got more than a passing familiarity with it.

(They have "Cocktail Party" special for 10 or more: unlimited appetizers and drinks)

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Good point. But still, when I worked at a grocery store there would be these two girls that would come in before or after their belly dancing practices in their outfits.

One was clearly Middle Eastern and other white and they were very attractive and friendly. Obviously the olive-skinned one was suffering from false consciousness and engaging in 'self-exploitation' according to the author of this piece.

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

Foreign types with the hookah pipes say
Ay oh whey oh, ay oh whey oh

[Calidissident]

Horseshoe theory in action. Extreme SJWs are so insane that they begin to make arguments that sound like they're coming from Stormfront or other white nationalists and supremacists (often some form of "cultures shouldn't mix (cuz appropriashun)!"), just with a different bias

[seguin]

When I have argued, online and in person, with Arab women drivers, they have assured me that they learned to drive from white women. This is supposed to make the transaction OK. Instead, I point out that all this means is that it is perfectly all right with these teachers that their financial well-being is based on self-exploitation.

As a follow-up, Arab women drivers then focus on the freedom and utilitarian aspect of driving. They claim that the true exploiter of Arab women drivers is General Motors, and the automobile industry, which helped take Arab women drivers out of darkened back rooms and placed them directly under the male gaze. Here, the argument Arab women drivers try to make ignores the long history of brown women's appropriation of European concepts of freedom and becomes that this, the driving of automobiles in public, is not about race and appropriation, but about gender and resisting the patriarchy and how all of us driving around is a giant middle finger to men and their male gaze-y ways.

But srsly, totally not racist.

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

More moonbattery

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Those who challenge this narrative, like myself, are nothing but dupes, useful idiots, the modern-day equivalents of the Fabians who went to Stalin's Soviet Union and lauded it as a new civilisation.

Yes, yes you are. If you could erase all memory of Stalin and the Gulags from the popular memory and try again commie fucks like you would do it in a heartbeat.

Inflation runs at over 50 per cent: but it is a disease the country is long familiar with. Under Chavez's neo-liberal predecessor Rafael Caldera in the 1990s, it topped 100 per cent. And yet this was not presented as a failure of free-market capitalism.

Because it had nothing do with free-market capitalism.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

This shit scares the hell out of me. 10 years ago if you'd admitted to being a communist/socialist, you'd have been ridiculed to no end. Now they openly embrace and defend it. What the fuck is wrong with people? Are they so completely ignorant of the history of destitution and anguish. WTF?

[Snark Plissken]

Well it's GB, there's always been a lot more hard left "thinkers" there.

[seguin]

Envy is a deadly sin for a reason. It seems to be one of the fundamental flaws of humanity...like, totally fer shure.

[JeremyR]

Well, gee, it wouldn't have anything to do with almost all the media (books, TV, movies, video games, magazines, etc) and faculty at colleges being lefties?

[Sevo]

"The democratic credentials of the post-Chavez government are being maligned"

Whoosh!
No, idjit, it's not the 'democratic credentials', it's the amazing spectacle of the nation with the largest proven reserves of petroleum whose government has 'planned' the economy such that you can't buy goddam TOILET PAPER!
Maybe you can get your "democratic credentials" printed on some soft paper and they might be useful.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

This guy is wise to your fascist colonial act, Sevo:

Paul Lanfear 5 days ago
No, shortages in this case have been caused largely by increased consumption/demand and a deliberate policy of hoarding, obstruction and sabotage by the private sector - a strategy successfully deployed by the right in Chile which destablised the government of Salvador Allende. Nixon ordered the CIA to ?make the economy scream?. Given this and the proven US involvement with the 2002, the Venezuelan government could surely be forgiven a little paranoia.

That's an all-too common argument that really shows how batshit insane the true believers are.

I even had a community college professor defend the liquidation of the Kulaks on similar grounds: those wreckers actually shot at the Soviet troops sent to collectivize the farms!

[Sevo]

Damn Kulaks and wreckers! And JOOOOZE, I'm sure.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

I really regret not knowing as much as I do know when I took that class. I was only just becoming a full-on libertarian at the time but even I knew his position was thinly veiled evil.

I called him out on it and he dodged by insisting he wasn't defending the "excesses" of Stalin and the Soviet regime in general. Only putting them in "context".

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

Valeria Lukyanova, who has attracted headlines and social media attention for her strong resemblance to the famous toy, is now gaining attention for her odd choice of diet, which advocates existing without food and water.
The Ukrainian model said she intends to live on air and light alone and hasn't been hungry at all in recent weeks.

[Snark Plissken]

Slavic women generally have narrower waists and better waist-hip ratios than Western European women. The downside is they also generally have flatter asses.

[Sevo]

The charlatan who started 'breatharianism' (what, 30 years ago?) lived in Marin County and attracted quite a following.
He was busted one evening at the local Micky D's where (according to the staff) he'd been a late-night regular for quite a while. He said it was only a 'little cheating' (setting the stage for the mobile O-care goal-posts), and most of the suckers 'kept the faith' with, I'm sure, only 'a little cheating' on their part.
See "High Weirdness By Mail" ( http://www.amazon.com/HIGH-WEI.....ss+by+mail ) and you can meet J.R. 'Bob' Dobbs, too!

[Jasmine.]

They already have it:

http://www.gov.il/firstgov/english

Think about it, nationalist, socialist, militarist, and it even promotes hate against Semitic people.

[Calidissident]

Brilliant economic analysis by the Huffington Post.

Obamacare Just Made Americans Richer Without Anyone Noticing

"Glenn Beck once said Obamacare would mean "the end of prosperity in America forever." But so far, it turns out President Obama's 2010 health law is actually putting money in Americans' wallets.

To be exact, President Obama's 2010 health law was responsible for about three-quarters of a surprising January rise in U.S. consumer spending and American income growth, according to calculations by the Wall Street Journal.

While not exceptional, the gains were significant: a 0.4 percent rise in consumer spending ($45.2 billion) and a 0.3 percent rise in personal incomes (up $43.9 billion), according to new figures released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis. The growth came in spite of the expiration of unemployment benefits for the long-term unemployed and all that horrible winter weather.

So what exactly did the Obamacare rollout do to cause such a rise? For one, it expanded the Medicaid program, a critical and highly controversial aspect of the law, by adding up to a $19 billion in benefits in January. On top of that, health care enrollees additionally received another near $15 billion in the form of tax credits as a result of the rollout, according to the BEA.

Together the two changes have freed up many Americans to spend money that would have gone towards health care premiums on goods and services instead."

[Calidissident]

And the link:

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[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Funny how they seem to think wealth is a zero-sum game in a capitalist economy (ie, a person gets rich at another person's expense), but apparently government can, just by fiat, make people richer by giving them free shit. No opportunity cost or downsides.