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Donald Trump

Trump Loves Accusing Critics of Treason. U.S. Law Makes That Charge Hard To Prove—for Good Reason.

The president’s habitual attempts to criminalize dissent hark back to tyrants of yore.

Jacob Sullum | 5.30.2026 8:00 AM

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Last November, six members of Congress, all Democrats, posted a video that reminded U.S. military personnel of their duty to "refuse illegal orders." That well-established principle, which is reflected in the Defense Department's Law of War Manual, is legally uncontroversial. And as a federal judge later noted, the video was "unquestionably protected" by the First Amendment. President Donald Trump nevertheless insisted that the legislators had committed a grave crime.

"It's called SEDITIOUS BEHAVIOR AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL," Trump wrote on Truth Social. "Each one of these traitors to our Country should be ARRESTED AND PUT ON TRIAL." He added that "their words cannot be allowed to stand" because "we won't have a Country anymore!!!" He later reiterated that the legislators who produced the video had engaged in "SEDITIOUS BEHAVIOR," which he claimed is "punishable by DEATH!"

That apoplectic reaction, which led to an attempted federal indictment, was part of a familiar pattern. Again and again during the last decade, Trump has accused people who irk him of treason, sedition, or both. But those words do not mean what he thinks they do, and for good reason: Through centuries of bitter experience, Americans have learned the perils of letting the government define treason and sedition broadly enough to criminalize dissent. Although Trump clearly has not absorbed those lessons, his habitual invocation of these terms is a useful reminder of why U.S. law makes it so difficult to prove such charges.

What Treason and Sedition Actually Mean

Article III, Section 3 of the Constitution says "treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort." It adds that "no person shall be convicted of treason" unless two witnesses testify to "the same overt act" or the defendant confesses "in open court."

That stringent definition of treason was a response to historical abuses, which extended the concept to include thought crimes, offensive remarks, religious dissent, and other nonviolent conduct that did not entail armed rebellion or siding with the nation's wartime enemies. The statutory definition of treason tracks the language of the Constitution.

That law does authorize a maximum penalty of death, which probably was what Trump had in mind when he condemned the "traitors" who appeared in the video that offended him. But nothing they said or did came remotely close to the elements of this crime.

What about sedition? Contrary to what Trump implied, there is no such stand-alone crime under the current U.S. Code. But federal law defines "seditious conspiracy" as a plot to "overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof." That also seems far afield from urging members of the armed forces to defend the Constitution and respect the law, which is what the legislators did in that video.

Eager to deliver on the president's threat, Jeanine Pirro, the Trump-appointed U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, reportedly turned to 18 USC 2387, which applies to someone who "causes or attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military or naval forces of the United States." That crime, which is punishable by up to 10 years in prison, requires an "intent to interfere with, impair, or influence the loyalty, morale, or discipline of the military or naval forces of the United States." And as relevant here, the Uniform Code of Military Justice defines insubordination as willfully disobeying a "lawful order," while the video explicitly addressed "illegal orders."

How bad was the fit between Section 2387 and the political speech that Pirro claimed it covered? So bad that a grand jury rejected her proposed indictment in February—a remarkable setback, since grand jurors, who hear only the government's side of a case, almost always approve charges recommended by federal prosecutors. Two weeks later, NBC reported that Pirro had decided to drop the case.

The fact remains that the president of the United States wanted to imprison six members of Congress for saying things he did not like. And instead of trying to dissuade him, a federal prosecutor tried to make his revenge fantasy come true.

That episode is especially striking because it went beyond bluster. But it was consistent with Trump's general attitude toward his political opponents, whom he routinely describes as traitors who belong in jail.

Trump Sees Traitors Everywhere

After Trump fired FBI Director James Comey in May 2017, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein suggested that Justice Department officials start recording their conversations with the president. That was "illegal and treasonous," Trump said.

Failing to applaud Trump during his State of the Union address might qualify as treason, he suggested in 2018. "Can we call that treason?" he wondered. "Why not? I mean, they certainly didn't seem to love our country very much."

That same year, The New York Times published an anonymous essay by an administration official who was critical of the president. That was also "treason" in Trump's book. So was Democratic opposition to his immigration policies, Trump declared on Twitter in April 2019.

The following month, Trump said the federal investigation of his 2016 campaign's alleged ties to Russia was "treason." Two months later, he reiterated that characterization, describing the Russia probe as an "illegal and treasonous attack on our Country."

Trump took a similar view of the controversy that led to his first impeachment, which involved a telephone call in which he pressured Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to launch a corruption investigation of Joe Biden, the opponent Trump expected to face in the next year's presidential election. The transcript of that call "reads like a classic organized crime shakedown," Rep. Adam Schiff (D–Calif.) said during a House hearing in September 2019.

Schiff then summarized "the essence of what the president communicates." Although Schiff did not claim to be quoting Trump directly, his paraphrase, which he later said was partly "parody," was misleading in at least one respect. But instead of simply trying to correct the record, Trump said Schiff should be "questioned at the highest level for Fraud & Treason" because "he wrote down and read terrible things, then said it was from the mouth of the President."

The next day, Trump doubled down. Schiff "illegally made up a FAKE & terrible statement," "pretended it to be mine," and "read it aloud to Congress and the American people," Trump complained. "It bore NO relationship to what I said on the call. Arrest for Treason?" The following month, Trump reiterated that Schiff had committed "High Crimes and Misdemeanors, and even Treason," adding that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D–Calif.) was "every bit as guilty" because she was complicit in Schiff's "ruthless con."

Trump also was mad at the House select committee that investigated the 2021 Capitol riot—the incident that sparked his second impeachment. The committee included Schiff and eight other legislators: Reps. Bennie Thompson (D–Miss.), Zoe Lofgren (D–Calif.), Pete Aguilar (D–Calif.), Stephanie Murphy (D–Fla.), Jamie Raskin (D–Md.), Elaine Luria (D–Va.), Liz Cheney (R–Wyo.), and Adam Kinzinger (R–Ill.). In March 2023, Trump said all of them "should be prosecuted for their lies and, quite frankly, TREASON!"

Last July, Trump deployed that charge against former President Barack Obama, who he said was caught "absolutely cold" trying to "rig the election" in 2016 and 2020. "What they did in 2016 and 2020 is very criminal," Trump told reporters at the White House. "This was treason."

After launching a war against Iran last February, Trump objected to unfavorable news coverage of the conflict. "When the Fake News says that the Iranian enemy is doing well, Militarily, against us, it's virtual TREASON in that it is such a false, and even preposterous, statement," he said in a Truth Social post on May 12. "They are aiding and abetting the enemy! All it does is give Iran false hope when none should exist. These are American cowards that are rooting against our Country."

A few days later, Trump accused New York Times reporter David Sanger of the same crime. "I had a total military victory, but the fake news, guys like you, write incorrectly," he told Sanger. "I actually think it's sort of treasonous what you write."

As Trump described it, journalists like Sanger were guilty of "virtual TREASON," meaning they were only "sort of treasonous." That counts as rhetorical restraint for Trump, who on other occasions has made it clear that he thought the objects of his ire should be arrested, prosecuted, imprisoned, and maybe even executed for crossing him.

The Treason Clause Was Meant to Stop Exactly This

Trump's treason tic might seem laughable in a country where people generally are free to speak their minds without worrying that they will be carted off to jail—let alone burned at the stake or hanged, drawn, and quartered (the traditional punishments for treason in Tudor England). But there is plenty of historical precedent for Trump's attitude, which is why the Framers decided to define treason narrowly.

Under the new Constitution, James Wilson explained at the Pennsylvania Ratifying Convention in 1787, "Congress can neither define nor try the crime. If we have recourse to the history of the different governments that have hitherto subsisted, we shall find that a very great part of their tyranny over the people has arisen from the extension of the definition of treason. Some very remarkable instances have occurred, even in so free a country as England."

Wilson, a jurist who would later serve on the U.S. Supreme Court, offered an example: "If I recollect right, there is one instance that puts this matter in a very strong point of view. A person possessed a favorite buck, and, on finding it killed, wished the horns in the belly of the person who killed it. This happened to be the king: the injured complainant was tried, and convicted of treason for wishing the king's death."

Whether or not Wilson recollected right, the incident he described is plausible given the broad meaning of treason under early English law. As developed by the courts, the concept included "constructive treason," which encompassed situations that even Trump might not recognize as examples of the crime. "During the early reign of Edward III a knight forcibly held a man until he paid ninety pounds," which "was held to be treason because the knight was guilty of accroaching, or attempting to exercise, royal power," according to an unsigned 1959 Indiana Law Journal article.

Although the Treason Act of 1351 was supposed to rein in such extensions, it left a lot of leeway for abuse, partly because it defined the crime to cover anyone who "doth compass or imagine" the death of the king, the queen, or the heir apparent. "In the years following the reign of Edward III," the law journal article notes, the courts "construed this to mean that if a man imagined the death of the king, he should be put to death for such imagining, without having done anything—that is, without any overt act."

Trump probably would see nothing wrong with that understanding of treason. After all, he demanded that ABC fire late-night comedian Jimmy Kimmel for telling a joke that imagined the president's death, and he ordered James Comey's prosecution for sharing a picture of seashells arranged to form a numerical slogan that supposedly alluded to the same outcome.

Trump likewise might welcome the legal regime established during Henry VIII's reign, when acts or words deemed to undermine the chief executive's dignity qualified as treason. Sir Thomas More, Henry's former lord chancellor, was executed for treason in 1535 because he refused to acknowledge the king's authority over the English church and declined to recognize his marriage to Ann Boleyn. Under Elizabeth I, treason included deviating from royally sanctioned religious beliefs.

The Treason Act of 1351 remained in effect during the reign of George III, the king against whom American colonists eventually rebelled, although by then an overt act was required to substantiate the charge. After Rhode Islanders burned a British vessel assigned to intercept smugglers in 1772, Edward Thurlow, England's attorney general, and Alexander Wedderburn, the solicitor general, deemed the sabotage an act of treason. Two years later, they reached the same conclusion about the Boston Tea Party because the protesters had aimed to obstruct enforcement of legislation enacted by Parliament.

In both cases, the perpetrators were threatened with trial in England, a prospect that further inflamed Americans who already had a long list of grievances against George III's government. Once the Founders decided to separate from England, they were acutely aware that they qualified as traitors subject to execution. They were also familiar with the long history of abuses stemming from a broad understanding of treason.

"In point of precision and accuracy with regard to this crime," English common law "was grossly deficient," Wilson observed in 1791. "Its description was uncertain and ambiguous; and its denomination and penalties were wastefully communicated to offences of a different and inferiour kind."

Although the Treason Act of 1351 was designed to "lop off these numerous and dangerous excrescences," its safeguards had failed "during times remarkably tyrannical or turbulent," Wilson noted. "Admonished by the history of such times and transactions as these, when legislators are tyrants or tools of tyrants," he added, "the people of the United States have wisely and humanely ordained, that 'treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.'"

When America Criminalizes Dissent, It Does Not Go Well

The related concept of sedition posed similar dangers. In 1734, for example, John Peter Zenger, publisher of The New-York Weekly Journal, was charged with seditious libel, a crime that English common law defined to include speech that brought government officials into "hatred or contempt." His offense was printing articles that criticized New York's royal governor.

The potential penalties for seditious libel, which included unlimited fines and up to life in prison, were severe, and truth was no defense. To the contrary, an old maxim held that "the greater the truth, the greater the libel," meaning that accurate criticism was more likely to generate popular outrage. Zenger's jury nevertheless refused to convict him. That 1735 verdict was both an early victory for freedom of the press and a precedent that advocates of jury nullification cite to this day.

The lessons of that episode were evidently lost on the Federalist legislators who approved the Sedition Act of 1798. Amid a panic about a seemingly imminent war with France, President John Adams' party viewed Vice President Thomas Jefferson's Democratic-Republicans as "Jacobins" inclined to aid and abet French conquerors. In response to that supposedly existential threat, Congress enacted a law abridging freedom of the press just seven years after the states had ratified a constitutional amendment that ruled out such legislation.

Among other things, the Sedition Act made it a crime, punishable by a fine up to $2,000 (something like $54,000 today) and up to two years in jail, to write or publish "any false, scandalous, and malicious writing" against "the government of the United States," Congress, or the president. The Federalists, who were openly targeting their political opponents, presented the statute as less severe than the common-law definition of seditious libel, since it required malicious intent and theoretically recognized truth as a defense. But in practice, neither requirement proved an obstacle to prosecutions, which were facilitated by Federalist judges, including Supreme Court Justice Samuel Chase.

The two dozen or so defendants who faced indictments included a member of Congress and various irksome journalists, all Democratic-Republicans. As the legal scholar Wendell Bird notes in his book Criminal Dissent, the Federalists sincerely believed the opposition was not just wrong but fundamentally illegitimate. In their view, the people got a chance to participate in the political process every few years through elections, and they should otherwise keep quiet if they did not have anything nice to say. The Federalists thought criticizing a duly elected government was disruptive, destabilizing, and subversive—in a word, seditious.

The Sedition Act expired on March 3, 1801—not coincidentally, the day before Jefferson took office as president. But it was enormously unpopular during its brief existence, providing a potent political weapon to Jefferson's party, which portrayed the law as tyrannical and unconstitutional. The Federalists' ham-handed attempt to criminalize their opponents played a major role in the party's collapse.

Similar repression has periodically resurfaced in the United States, typically tied to war or the threat of war. During the Civil War, Abraham Lincoln suspended the writ of habeas corpus, and his government arrested thousands of suspected Confederate sympathizers. During World War I, Congress approved the Espionage Act of 1917, which made it a crime, punishable by up to 20 years in prison, to obstruct military recruitment. The Sedition Act of 1918 extended that crime to include "any disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language" regarding "the form of government of the United States," the Constitution, or the U.S. armed forces.

In the 1919 case Schenck v. United States, the Supreme Court unanimously upheld the Espionage Act convictions of two Socialist Party members who had distributed anti-draft pamphlets, saying such speech posed a "clear and present danger" in the context of an ongoing war. A week later, the justices applied the same reasoning in upholding the Espionage Act conviction of perennial Socialist presidential candidate Eugene V. Debs, who had been sentenced to 10 years in federal prison for criticizing the war and the Wilson administration.

The Supreme Court also looked kindly on the Smith Act of 1940, which made it a crime to advocate "overthrowing or destroying" the government "by force or violence." In the 1951 case Dennis v. United States, the justices approved the prosecution of Communist Party members under the Smith Act, again relying on the "clear and present danger" test. But the Court repudiated that test in the 1969 case Brandenburg v. Ohio, holding that advocacy of illegal conduct can be treated as a crime only when it is both "directed" at inciting "imminent lawless action" and "likely" to do so.

Disloyalty to Trump Is Not Treason

The charge Pirro tried to deploy against the politicians whose video annoyed Trump is a descendant of the Espionage Act and the Smith Act, which included similar language about "willfully" trying to undermine military discipline. But even if Pirro had managed to obtain an indictment, any prosecution would have been constrained by the Brandenburg test as well as the statute's intent requirement.

More typically, Trump's charges of treason and sedition are not tied to any particular law. Rather, he equates disloyalty to him with disloyalty to the nation, harking back to the commodious conceptions of these crimes that prevailed under English common law and the edicts of tyrants such as Henry VIII.

Like the Federalists in the 1790s, who portrayed their political opponents as Jacobins bent on annihilating the republic, Trump describes Democrats as "sick, sinister, and evil people" who are "trying to destroy our country" because they "hate our country." They are "communists," "Marxists," "fascists," "radical left lunatics," and "sick people" who "live like vermin within the confines of our country" and constitute "the enemy from within." They are a "disgrace to our nation," Trump says, because "they're against anything that makes America strong, healthy, and great again."

Such thinking did not work out very well for the Federalists. It remains to be seen whether the Republican Party will pay a long-term price for tying itself to the authoritarian impulses of a thin-skinned, vindictive man who sees no difference between dissent and treason.

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Jacob Sullum is a senior editor at Reason. He is the author, most recently, of Beyond Control: Drug Prohibition, Gun Regulation, and the Search for Sensible Alternatives (Prometheus Books).

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  1. Fu Manchu   2 months ago

    It's okay that Trump has all the trappings of a tin pot dictator and would put his opponents in jail or to death if he could. Because Trump is my messiah and Jesus is only a prophet. Trump is the Constitution and the Constitution is only a piece of paper. And opposing Trump is the ultimate sin.

    Plus Biden / Obama / LBJ did some bad stuff so that makes it all fine with me. Oh and the article is by JS so that completely invalidates it.

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      Poor sarc.

    2. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

      I was wondering what js;dr meant.

      1. Fu Manchu   2 months ago

        Obviously JS is Sarc. So are we. And that means everything we say is invalid. The ultimate argument.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          Everything you and MG post is invalid since you are both TDS-addled steaming piles of lying lefty shit who should fuck off and die.

        2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

          What type of argument do you imagine your stupid op deserves sarc?

        3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          Youre invalid because your arguments are baseless, emotional, and ignorant. Just repetition of leftist outrage podcasts.

          1. Nelson   2 months ago

            Up until I read “leftist” it was a pretty accurate criticism of Jesse’s normal fact-free contributions, then I noticed that it was Jesse making the comment.

            Self-awareness has never been his strong suit.

            1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

              Jesse constantly backs up his assertions. Much better than you, or any of the other far left trash here.

              1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                Leftists greatest power is being intentionally ignorant. Nelson is a classic example.

                1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

                  They all see the dystopian society from ‘1984’ as their dream world. And they truly believe that ignorance is strength.

                  We should oblige them to some extent and throw them all in cages.

                2. Nelson   2 months ago

                  Considering you have about a 10% rate on being right, particularly about economic issues, you are being awfully free with the “intentionally ignorant” thing.

                  Plus, of course, I link to reputable sources and you link to PJMedia, ZeroHedge, and Townhall.

        4. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          You don’t argue or debate. You just rave drunkenly. Like you did at your wife when you beat her, and your child when you abused her.

          You’re the problem Sarc.

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        "I was wondering what js;dr meant."

        That's because you're an imbecilic pile of lefty shit.

      3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

        Really? You didn’t know?

        Your one track obsession allows you little room to think about anything else. Sad, really.

        Get a life, molly.

    3. minus the clever name   2 months ago

      This is typical you, not a word that's substantive.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Sarc used to cry about "you" statements despite always relying on them.

        1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          He’s a wife beating, child abusing drunk. So this isn’t surprising.

    4. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

      Poor stupid sarcbot.

    5. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Settle down Rachel.

      You've called him Hitler lol.

      1. Nelson   2 months ago

        Damn, Jesse. Either try to nail Maddow or stop talking about her. Your middle-school mating behavior is getting tiresome.

        1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          It’s not his fault that you all get your talking points from PMS NOW.

      2. Nardz Leftist Kill Count: 0   2 months ago

        What does it feel like to have Dave Smith’s penis inside your asshole? Figuratively.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          Guessing the same sort of thrill you get rimming some other TDS-addled lefty pile of shit.

          1. Nardz Leftist Kill Count: 0   2 months ago

            God bless you Sevo

        2. Nelson   2 months ago

          Since I’m straight, I have no idea what it feels like to have a penis in my asshole. Perhaps you could explain it so I have an idea?

          Also, who is Dave Smith?

          1. Nardz Leftist Kill Count: 0   2 months ago

            My comment was meant to be a reply to Jesse. If it showed up as a reply to you, forgive me.

            According to Jesse, Dave Smith is one of the standard libertarians. The way Jesse associates Maddow with people who have never mentioned her and repeatedly told him they give two shits about her, I assume Jesse and Dave Smith are butt buddies or something since he has repeatedly praised him.

            1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

              Lol. So wrong and boring. You've gained a second attribute. Congrats i guess.

        3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          What a weird statement from mr boring. Ive criticized Dave Smith a shit ton lol.

          1. Nardz Leftist Kill Count: 0   2 months ago

            Where have the people you constantly accuse of being Maddow watchers ever mentioned Maddow?

            Look I’m not gonna argue with you Jesse… you have made it abundantly clear you want my friends and family dead and you are too stupid to be reasoned with.

  2. minus the clever name   2 months ago

    Jacob seemed to ignore the logic of what he was claiming.

    There are traitors and how hard it is to prove does not say anything about their existence.

    Isn't it better to claim too many than to let some traitors go free and clear !!

    And you equate it to 'criminalizing dissent' but the law never says that nor did Trump characterize it that way.

    Boo on you for trying to criminalize dissent from your view. BOO

  3. damikesc   2 months ago

    Jacob, the Left is not going to fuck you. Try as you might, even THEY have standards.

    1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

      That Talerico fella might.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Maybe that state senator from San Francisco too.

        1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          Is he the one who was affiliated with Al Queda back in the 90’s? There are so many jihadis and openly communist democrat candidates now that sits getting guard to keep track of all the unrepentant Nazis, communists and Islamists that are now the foundation of their party.

          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            No. The one who wanted to make it non criminal to sleep with teenage boys.

        2. damikesc   2 months ago

          No, they have SOME standards.

      2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        Sullum might be a little…old for Talerivo. Who undoubtedly drives a windowless panel van that smells vaguely of chloroform. I suspect Talerico, Jeffy, Plantner, and Shrike all belong to the same NAMBLA cell.

  4. Juliana Frink   2 months ago

    The lies and propaganda thrust upon us every day by the "left" may not be treason by legal definition, so the media, including Reason, need not fear legal repercussions for giving aid and comfort to slimeballs under thinly disguised contempt for actual libertarians. Sullum would sure like to impress upon his readers that any vocal opposition to the subversive, anti-liberty tactics of the conniving left amounts to a demand for arrests and prosecution and hangings! Criminalizing Dissent!!!

    Sorry, we're not taking the bait.

    The cure for "untreatable" treason is that when a population truly gets sick and tired of it a populist (Aaagggghhhh! Reasonistas scream!) uprising is likely to ensue. It can be peaceful. Or not. But enough people with their eyes open will eventually effect change. At that point in time Reason will probably be long gone, and thus unavailable to call them "insurrectionists."

    1. Juliana Frink   2 months ago

      With every passing day we get another eyeful of just how much this rag is pure, unadulterated propaganda. Sadly, I don't even have to exaggerate to prove it.

      Who could fail to notice the banner labeled "CORRUPTION" just below the top stories, in which 100 percent of the stories are about Trump. Not only that but three out of four are explicitly about the "Anti-Weaponization Fund" controversy. A wee bit heavy-handed?

      I decided to give Reason the benefit of the doubt and check just what other stories might round out the "CORRUPTION" heading. And there are none. Zero. In fact the heading itself leads nowhere - there is NO LIST of related stories; the arrow does NOT turn into an index finger when hovered over the orange lettering as it does with every other heading on the site.

      So, Reason has a banner dedicated to their definition of corruption, which has nothing to do with reality, only Donald Trump. And it is there, big as day, night and day for all to register. Subtle. Subliminal. In service to the extreme opposite of "Free Minds." In a word: Corrupt.

      1. Juliana Frink   2 months ago

        And BTW, nothing is more corrupt than the weaponization of government against half of its population, so this intolerable(!) Anti-Weaponization Fund would more appropriately be called an "Anti-Corruption Fund" regardless of whether or not it is, in its present form, the right prescription.

        Just sayin'.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          Very good set of posts.

          This has been pointed out as reasons MO for a decade now.

          The other point i will add is reason raged against actual corruption in defending USAID and raging against DOGE. They defended the bidens and Clinton's in overt fraud and corruption.

          Sullum himself defended the corrupt actions of Garland and Smith.

          They have no moral argument.

  5. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

    Trump’s accusations would look moderately less dumb if they did not come from the person who spearheaded the first attempted coup in US history.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      Lying pile of TDS-addled steaming shit lies again. Fuck off and die, asswipe.

      1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

        Once again showing what intellectualism looks like for a MAGA.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          Watching peak retard scream intellectualism is hilarious.

        2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          Once again assuming anything YOU post is worth more than a wish that you fuck off and die, asswipe.

        3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          And you’re once again showing retardation looks like for a Marxist.

    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Obama?

    3. Clipton   2 months ago

      Wow, what TDS. Bunch of fat, middle-aged,unarmed protesters get invited into the Capitol building by the police and then get out of hand and vandalize property, the only death by violence caused by a cop shooting an unarmed protestor to death. No Federal officials harmed much less even attacked. And THAT'S an attempted coup? I can't imagine what it must be like to live every day having such a distorted sense of reality.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Molly isnt paid by his CCP handlers to actually know liberals stage protests inside and have even bombed the Capitol.

        1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

          That is true. I only post what my CCP party overseers tell me to post.

          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            Correct.

          2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

            You finally admit it. Not that it was ever in question. Although they should have gotten someone less stupid.

    4. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      There was no coup, you retarded faggot. If Americans do decide to overthrow the democrats it will be decisive and your fellow travelers will be exterminated.

      1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

        Spoken like a true fascist.

        1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          Overthrowing Marxist scum is the opposite of fascism. Do you understand that as a Marxist you have no soul, and no right to exist?

          You should finally become a good commie.

          https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/health-services-benefits/medical-assistance-dying.html

        2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          Posted like a true steaming pile of TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit. IOWs, what you are.
          Fuck off and die, shitstain.

  6. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

    You have this all wrong. Trump is just a bit confused. He thinks sucking Putins dick to be patriotic and defending freedom as treasonous.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      Lying pile of TDS-addled steaming shit lies again. Fuck off and die, shitstain.

    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Why does the CCP still pay you?

    3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      You aren’t very good at this. Probably because you’re a retarded, raving faggot.

  7. Carlos Inconvenience   2 months ago

    Flashback to 2022, when numerous liberals accused those critical of Joe Biden’s handling of the Ukrainian crisis of sedition: https://nypost.com/2022/02/23/its-illiberal-for-liberals-to-accuse-biden-critics-of-treason/

    This is not a defense of Trump, who deserves none on this topic, but this problem has been festering for a while now.

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Has reason ever criticized the left for calling trump a traitor? For calling him hitler? Even in the face of violence and assassination attempts?

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        Everyone needs to think long and hard about what point enough is enough from the democrats. We desperately need to get rid of them.

  8. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    Jacob Sullum is a senior TDS-addled lying pile of steaming shit at Reason who should fuck off and die.

  9. Juliana Frink   2 months ago

    Funny, Reason mistakenly picked a photo to head this story in which every single one of the people in it is at least ten times more accusing, authoritarian and yes, corrupt that the man in the middle at whom their foul fingers are pointing. Here it is, lest they realize their mistake and take it down:

    https://d2eehagpk5cl65.cloudfront.net/img/c1920x1080-w1920-q80/uploads/2026/05/Trump-illustration-5-29-1.jpg.webp

    My goodness, Reason is a literal smorgasbord of horseshit this weekend.

    1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      There a smorgasbord of horseshit every day anymore. Aside from the occasional Stossel article, every Reason staff writer, with the exceptions of Good Liz, and maybe Robby, are now worse than Sheldon Richman and Shikha Dalmia.

    2. Nelson   2 months ago

      In both depth and scope, there has never been a more corrupt politician than Trump.

      Hell, just his “Board of Peace” grift surpasses every other politician in history. And that’s just one of his side cons.

      Trump has redirected billions of dollars of American taxpayer dollars to himself and his sons and that doesn’t even include the contracts that the US has signed with their companies.

      1. Juliana Frink   2 months ago

        Trump Schmump. NONE of this is solely about Trump. You know it, and we shall clearly see this after 2028. But for a good ten years, the "depth and scope" of the corruption at work against Trump has been beyond unprecedented and your piddling pedantry cannot brush it under the rug.

        The door is swiftly closing on your propaganda. No one believes you. In fact, I am pretty certain you don't even believe yourself. There are certain tells, you know. Sorry.

        And from an earlier post: nothing is more corrupt than the weaponization of government against half of its population, so this intolerable(!) Anti-Weaponization Fund would more appropriately be called an "Anti-Corruption Fund" regardless of whether or not it is, in its present form, the right prescription.

        1. Nelson   2 months ago

          “ nothing is more corrupt than the weaponization of government against half of its population“

          So you agree that Trump is corrupt. At least we have that as a shared belief.

          Your MAGA persecution complex is pure fantasy. Trump keeps getting in trouble because he keeps doing shady things. Remember Trump University? Remember the veterans “charity ” that he was forced to shut down because it spent no money on veterans and he operated it like a slush fund? Both of those (and numerous other grifts over the decades) were before he ever became President.

          Trump has always been corrupt. The fact that he can now scam billions from American taxpayers instead of millions is merely a change in scale. He’s exactly the same guy he’s always been. He’s a charlatan. A huckster. A con artist. And a really, really terrible example of a human being. Or, I guess, a really excellent example of all of the worst traits of humanity.

          1. Juliana Frink   2 months ago

            The only "fantasy" that demands explanation is how all the evils of the world can be assigned to one man and one man only. As we soon shall see, that fantasy will evaporate suddenly after 2028. In the meantime, let's do a quick check of all the elements leading up to this profound relization:

            First, let us thank the "Free Press" for giving us the evil Donald Trump. There is only one explanation that squares with their gift of hours and hours of free air time to him: They essentially guaranteed him the nomination, certain he would be defeated and forgotten.

            Then, lo and behold (with relish, I might add) the epic failure of Hillary Clinton, THE Most Corrupt Woman in the History of the World, and the naked conspiracy to steal the 2016 election via the Russia Collusion Hoax.

            The participants in the Hoax are given TV spots and book deals.

            After his first term, the corrupt, evil DJT was the only president who actually left office with less money than he started with.

            Then, in the run up to 2020 all of a sudden this, um, Pandemic(!) suddenly appears. And despite all the attempts to deflect the truth about its origins, it escalates to global proportions, much to the delight of Globalist control freaks everywhere. And BTW, while they may now concede an "accidental release" was responsible, the only explanation that doesn't rely on an unbelievable coincidence is that it was an intentional release. Sorry. Logic and all.

            Mail-in voting ensues.

            Okay, the question arises of a stolen election. There are mountains of evidence that is never given trial, and bizarre circumstances that have never been explained, and a steadfast refusal to examine them closely. Punishments for questioning the official story. Cancellations. Censorship. Nobody, myself included, thinks the democrats could have pulled off stealing a national election in the USA. It would take a GLOBAL effort to do THAT. Nothing wrong with asking a LOGICAL question, is there?

            J6. History repeats itself a la Reichstag Fire. An unarmed woman is murdered, resulting in accolades and a bonus for the murdering, bigoted cop. A Hollywood director is hired to highlight the INSURRECTION. A corrupt committee investigates. Two former "republicans" emerge and are celebrated for their ... *cough* *vomit* courage. (...Taking a moment here to reflect upon their utter disgrace)...

            Four years of a puppet president. Sorry. It's a fact. We don't know what UNELECTED people ran this country for four years, and installed some of the most bizarre figures into the cabinet and SCOTUS. And we don't actually know what might have happened to all the records held by the Otto Penn DOJ over those years. But people assure us that everything is on the up and up, and demand we reflexively believe them. Still, we ask LOGICAL questions.

            Donald Trump wins bigly in 2024. Like a bull in a china shop, he attempts to hold those who weaponized the government against him responsible, but instead is told to let it all go because, well, to seek justice would be vindictive. His attempt (a bit ham-fisted, perhaps) to right the wrongs of the J6 jailers is met with unhinged rage.

            I could go on but what's the point? I've obviously listed enough here to ascertain beyond any shadow of a doubt that Donald Trump is the most evil, corrupt president ever. Thanks Nelson, for helping me see the light. I promise I will not waste another word on this tired old thread.

      2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        You misspelled ‘Biden’.

        Now fuck off.

  10. Agammamon   2 months ago

    Sullum, Trump was impeached for doing the same thing as Kelly.

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Yeah, but sullum fell and presented the picture jack Smith generated by bringing cover sheets to the raid. He fell foe it hook, line, and sinker.

      Multiple articles defending the raid. Justifying it.

      Absolutely zero articles releasing the internal memos showing the charging was false and a deprivation of trumps rights.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        Trump doesn’t get rights. It’s in the ‘But Trump!’ clause in the constitution. Which is written in invisible that only democrats who really want to believe can see.

  11. Rick James   2 months ago

    I'm trying to remember how many accusations of "treason" we had between 2020 and 2024. Hell, I'm trying to remember how many accusations of "treason" we had since 2016 vis a vis Russian Collusion?

    Oh, America... fuck yeah!

    Trump lifts restrictions on off-road vehicles on public lands

    WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump on Friday rescinded two decades-old executive orders that restricted off-road vehicles on public lands, in a move that could lift prohibitions on their use in most national parks.

    The first executive order, signed by President Richard Nixon in 1972, established strict criteria for the use of off-road vehicles on federal lands, in an effort to minimize their environmental impact. The second, signed by President Jimmy Carter in 1977, authorized the government to immediately shut down off-road driving if it was causing ecological damage.

    1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

      You think anyone who works for Reason has ever been in an orv?

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        I doubt anyone that works at Reason even knows someone who owns a pick up truck.

  12. WellRedMan   2 months ago

    An article on criminalizing dissent and not one reference to Lincoln or the Radical Republican reign of tyranny from 1860 to 1877 and the imprisoning of thousands without trial or via military tribunals. This, of course, doesn't get into the fact that the entire Yankee war was a suppression of dissent.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      It was the man on the grassy knoll, right? Did you know about Nixon and Castro in Uruguay in '56?
      I'm sure you have a ton of lies to spout.

    2. minus the clever name   2 months ago

      NO, not at all. All those dissenters agreed against you after the war

      Texas cannot secede from the United States, a limitation established by the landmark 1869 U.S. Supreme Court case Texas v. White.While there are many myths regarding special secession rights in Texas, the ruling definitively stated that the U.S. Constitution created an "indestructible Union, composed of indestructible States" and that no state can legally secede without revolution or the consent of the other states

    3. Nelson   2 months ago

      “ and not one reference to Lincoln”

      If it weren’t for the direct mention of Lincoln suspending habeas corpus in the article, you would be right.

      So you either didn’t read the article or you are a brain-dead mouth breather who thinks the Confederacy was a good thing and that the North started the Civil War.

      “ This, of course, doesn't get into the fact that the entire Yankee war was a suppression of dissent.”

      Brain-dead mouth breather for the win.

      1. WellRedMan   2 months ago

        My failure to see that reference in the article in no way limits the failure of your own education or ability to understand the alignment of the Confederacy with the founding principles of the Republic. You probably don't even know what the Declaration of Independence is or its foundational concept of self-determination. Yes, the Yankees did start the war which you might know if you knew anything.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          "...the alignment of the Confederacy with the founding principles of the Republic..."

          You might possibly be "red", but there is no way you are "well read". In fact, you are full of shit. That is complete and total bullshit, as anyone who is "well read" knows.
          Slavery was (barely) tolerated by the founders in order to forge a union capable of escaping control of England and it was bound to be outlawed, as it was in direct contravention of the equality of man, regardless of any claims by fools like you.
          Go back under the rock from which you came, asshole.

          1. WellRedMan   2 months ago

            Many of the founders were slaveholders. You just don't know much at all, do you? Just admit you are just parroting what you were taught in public school. At least then you claim you aren't a total idiot. Time for you to get back to your Howard Zinn.

    4. Fu Manchu   2 months ago

      LOL an actual "but Lincoln", amazing! This has got to be a record.

  13. Carlos Inconvenience   2 months ago

    Meanwhile, Mark Lynch, the South Carolina Democrat running for Senate is calling it “treason” for the U.S. and Israel to develop and share military tech. Again, this is not a defense of Trump but Sullum's selective condemnation that occurs only when republicans do it makes him look like a LINO democrat (who just happens to like guns)

  14. mad.casual   2 months ago

    In a government of, for, and by The People, The People, not the press, decide what's treasonous.

    The only way the press, or The Press, decides is if they serve at the behest of a dictator.

    There may be a case where they're duly informing a educated populace but, even then, the spirit or principle is that an educated and duly informed populace decides for themselves.

    Otherwise, the press and especially The Press is acting in defiance of The People and their elected representatives.

    1. Nelson   2 months ago

      “ The People, not the press, decide what's treasonous.”

      The people do not such thing. Tyranny of the majority is a bad thing.

      You understand how bad it would be if “The People” could change the definitions of legal terms whenever they wanted to, right? Particularly for you and your fellow MAGA members, who don’t enjoy the national support you think you do.

      “ Otherwise, the press and especially The Press is acting in defiance of The People and their elected representatives.”

      The free press is the enemy of the people, right? Just like other defenders of freedom like Mao, Stalin, and Pinochet said. Oh, and Donald Trump, of course.

  15. creech   2 months ago

    I guess the video can be spun several ways. One is that the six members of Congress, concerned about some unstated possible illegal order, felt the Pentagon was remiss in it's training and that it was time to remind members of the military about their duties under the UCMJ to refuse to follow an illegal order. Another might be that the six members of Congress, all from one party, were seeking to undermine the hallowed doctrine of civilian control of the military, instead advocating that military leadership could better interpret the legality of orders from the civilian commanders.
    Who knows what was the reasoning behind the video? Certainly, a veteran such as Congresswoman Houlihan, was above reproach?
    She's well known for her support for military veterans, except, of course, those who served in the Confederate army. Houlihan actually supported an amendment to the military appropriations bill that would have required the National Park Service to remove all Confederate monuments on actual battlefields. Many scurry around to "make sure history is told in its entirety" when it comes to slavery, but let's wipe out any references to where Confederates fought at, say, Gettysburg.

  16. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

    JS;dr

    1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

      JS: dr
      🤮

  17. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Hey Jacob. Some of your fellow ideologues.

    Border Hawk
    @BorderHawkNews
    BREAKING: Full-blown riot erupting at Delaney Hall ICE Facility in Newark, NJ

    We have a ton of videos coming your way

    Stand by

    Border Hawk
    @BorderHawkNews
    As soon as NJ State Police abandoned Delaney Hall, militants dismantled the ‘first amendment’ barriers and used them to blockade the roadway and control traffic

    Anarchy

    Cam Higby
    @camhigby
    Rioters in Newark just CAPTURED a vehicle trying to enter the Delaney Hall detention facility.

    Contractors from the facility came out to defend their female colleagues and rioters used GATES to smash into the vehicle.

    Pepper balls were deployed.

    https://x.com/BorderHawkNews/status/2060546487419834744

    https://x.com/BorderHawkNews/status/2060591523809435956

    https://x.com/camhigby/status/2060566537480634804

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      It’s ok, they all look like legal observers and journalists.

  18. minus the clever name   2 months ago

    But what you accuse him of is okay because you really like him and have no ulterior motives ?

  19. Uomo Del Ghiaccio   2 months ago

    Interesting considering that these same people once accused Trump of being guilty of treason. You know what they say about Karma.

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