Biden and Trump Are Both Disastrously Wrong About Tariffs
Yes, cheap imports hurt some American companies. But protectionist trade policy harms many more Americans than it helps.

President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump fight about everything.
But they agree about one thing: tariffs, the subject of my new video.
Trump imposed tariffs on steel, aluminum, washing machines, solar panels, and other products from China.
Then Biden took office and slapped a 100 percent tariff on Chinese electric vehicles.
Now Trump says, if elected, he'll impose the tariff on all Chinese cars.
This is a destructive competition.
The idea of a tariff sounds good. Protect American businesses from foreigners! Protect American workers from cheap foreign labor!
That's the seen benefit for Americans.
The unseen harm is worse.
First, tariffs are a hidden tax. They make everything cost more. Yet few consumers see that inflation is increased by tariffs.
American steelmakers love Trump's tax on Chinese steel, but every American who uses steel has to pay more.
The U.S. International Trade Commission says that Trump's tariffs helped increase domestic production of steel, but production in other, dependent industries dropped by a greater amount.
A second unseen harm: protected companies get lazy.
Instead of devoting their energy to customer satisfaction and innovation, it's easier and often more profitable to lobby politicians, pushing for more tariff protections.
When I was young, Ford and General Motors improved their cars because they found they had to compete with Toyota, BMW, Honda, etc.
We should all be glad that no 100 percent tariffs existed then.
Trump's big tariffs on steel didn't even help U.S. Steel. It's now trying to sell itself to a Japanese steel company.
By contrast, trade benefits most everyone.
Flying today is cheaper than ever.
Fifty years ago, a flight from Los Angeles to Boston cost about $1,000.
Today, you can book the same trip for just over $100.
Trade makes that possible. Manufacturers buy airplane parts from all over the world.
Boeing's newest plane depends on Italian manufacturers for its engine. Its wings come from Germany and France. Floor beams are sourced from the United Arab Emirates, and the plane's doors come from Vietnam.
A tariff on any of these parts would make flying more expensive for all of us.
(Boeing's recent safety problems weren't caused by trade. That was all American.)
Of course, not everyone flies. But everyone enjoys the fruits of trade.
Do you eat fresh produce in winter?
Our avocados come from Mexico. Grapes from Peru and Chile. Bananas from Guatemala and Ecuador.
Attempts to meddle in these voluntary exchanges disrupt our lives and lower our standard of living.
Biden and Trump don't get that.
Goldman Sachs' chief economist predicts that Trump's plan to "put a ring around the country" would raise our inflation rate another 1.1 percent.
Biden once pretended to understand trade.
"Trump doesn't get the basics," he said in 2019. "He thinks his tariffs are being paid by China. Any freshman econ student could tell you that the American people are paying his tariffs."
Biden promised to remove Trump's tariffs.
But once in office, he caved to special interests and increased them.
The Tax Foundation says tariffs imposed by the last two presidents equal a $625 tax on every U.S. household.
Of course, the justification for tariffs is protecting American industry and American jobs.
Trump said his tariffs were a part of his "duty to protect the interests of working men and women, farmers, ranchers, businesses, and our country itself."
Biden now says his tariff proposals are "strategic and targeted actions that are going to protect American workers."
It's true that trade sometimes crushes American companies and takes jobs from some Americans.
But that opens up new opportunities.
When the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) took effect, 100,000 automotive workers in Michigan lost jobs.
But soon, total sales of cars and car parts went up. Most former auto workers applied their skills in more productive ways elsewhere, mostly in specialties where Americans produce most efficiently: high-end machinery, energy, movies, music, medicine, internet startups.
Not only do Americans make more money producing those things, but the jobs are safer and less physically demanding.
Despite "America first" fearmongering about growing international trade, it hasn't reduced total wages or the total number of American jobs. Unemployment remains near an all-time low.
Yes, cheap imports hurt some American companies. Politically connected industries will always try to persuade ignorant politicians to "protect" them.
But tariffs hurt many more Americans than they help.
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Who’s worse? The guy who started tariffs, or the guy who made them 4 times bigger?
4 times bigger? Citation please!
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/23/politics/biden-trump-tariffs-steel-whiskey-china/index.html
Biden administration eases some Trump-era tariffs on exports from UK and China
Tariffs on China ev from 25% to 100%
https://www.dorsey.com/newsresources/publications/client-alerts/2024/5/section-301-tariffs-and-increased-duty-rates
Biden didn't increase tariffs like that on other products.
Both are to blame and there's little point in arguing who's worse, unless as a theological matter you think that Trump is above criticism, as you apparently do.
Trump cut domestic taxes.
One is FAR more to blame than the other.
Separate issue from tariffs.
LMAO... Funny how "Tarrifs are Taxes" on citizens narrative originated from reason leftards. I guess they are only a Tax issue when they can be used to de-stain the Right and/or Trump.
Reminds me of Georgia missing 6,000 Trump votes. "Oh no. Those go in a 'separate' uncounted bin."
““Tarrifs are Taxes” ”
Not my claim.
Reminds me of Georgia missing 6,000 Trump votes. “Oh no. Those go in a ‘separate’ uncounted bin.”
Yeah, no. https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-55006188
Take the L
Oh thanks for linking the point...
"During the audit this week, nearly 6,000 untallied votes were found"
UR such a dumb*ss.
Biden didn’t increase tariffs like that on other products.
So what? Does that make it less bad?
"...Both are to blame and there’s little point in arguing who’s worse..."
BOTH SIDES when TDS-addled lefty shits are caught lying. FOAD, asshole.
Can't wait for Stossel to argue against copyright law because my right to cheap Rip-offs of his work is good for more Americans than it harms.
Trump likes tariffs because we wants to "win" trade, and get votes. Biden likes tariffs because he want to kiss union asses, and get votes.
Ain't democracy grand?
https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/h_l_mencken_163179
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.
H. L. Mencken
Ya know like FDR's 'Democracy' that handed the President the tariff taxation power entirely and VOIDED the US Constitution on the subject?
Ya; We know all too well how Democrats 'Democracy' works.
Maybe. Just maybe. The USA was founded as a *Constitutional* Republic.
There is a huge difference between Trump’s tariffs and Biden’s tariffs.
And that difference is intentions.
Trump has good intentions, so anyone who opposes his tariffs is a leftist with bad intentions. Lookin at you Stoss.
Biden has bad intentions, so whatever he does is bad.
See?
Totally different.
Poor, pour sarc. Out of ammo.
Ironic from the guy who always assumes good intentions from team D.
You sure are desperate for approval from the trolls. I bet that comment made one of them cream their jeans. They love you.
Ironic from the guy who always seeks the approval from team Jeffy.
Do you think this strawman, which you put in every thread, somehow adds to the discussion?
Cool, apply the same sophistry to murder. Sometimes intentions do differentiate actions.
Comparing tariffs to murder. Sure dood. Whatevs.
That's the retardation we've all come to expect from you. Thanks for highlighting that you cannot rebut the point, try again later when you're more sober.
What point? The one on the top of your head?
No Taxation without Representation. All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives.
Tar and feather both and run em out of town on a rail!
^THIS +10000000000000000.
Ironically FDR's Congress thwarted that provision in the US Constitution as well as most of all the rest of it.
Tariffs are bad mmm kay? So you gotta vote Biden for some reason.
Not what the article says, of course. Both Trump and Biden have tariffs wrong - as does everyone who calls one or the other out, but not both, for their tariffs.
But I am sure that there are defenders of both who will claim that their man's tariffs are good while the other man's tariffs suck.
Or you have those who ignore Biden's Progressive-Taxation on all markets while ignoring Trumps Domestic Tax-Cuts.
No. I am just addressing tariffs.
FWIW Trump's tax cuts succeeded only in increasing the deficit. So it seems you approve of increasing the deficit.
U.S. Deficits per year.
2014 $485
2015 $442
2016 $585
2017 $665 (Hmm. Doesn't look like it)
2018 $779
2019 $984
2020 $3,132
2021 $2,772 (Looks like a Democratic-Trifecta is what causes deficit)
2022 $1,376
2023 $1,684
2024 ~$2,000
The deficit kept rising, no?
Actual chart: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FYFSD
You won't find much support for your evident belief that deficits are a Democratic rather than Republican thing.
More links demonstrating my point to a T.
UR amazing at defeating yourself.
So what's your excuse? RU retarded? leftarded?
The government has to raise money somehow. All taxation will have some negative impact. Tariffs don't give government the right to take the fruits of my labor like income taxes, or force me to rent my property from the government in the form of property tax. The solution is less government. This will create less demand for tax revenue.
Stossel is right on all accounts.
EXCEPT that BIG-FAT blind spot.
"Tariffs are hidden tax." Correct.
"Taxes make things unaffordable." Correct.
The BLIND spot.
1) Domestic Manufacturing is getting taxed as high as 80%.
2) Trump Cut Domestic Taxes; Biden didn't and has no desire too. There is a difference.
3) Tariffs are a particular tax imposed on the international market. From the very founding of the USA the original TAX for the international affairs government (i.e. Federal) was the international market.
4) It is UNFAIR to LOBBY for ZERO international tax while simultaneously ignoring the 80% Domestic Tax being used to fund the 'international affairs' (i.e. National Defense) government.
As the popular saying goes, "No. F-You CUT SPENDING!"
But until that happens lobbying for domestic markets to ENTIRELY fund international governing is dishonest.
Correct.
Also, all taxes are bad. It's trivial to point out how taxes are bad and cost us money.
But if we have to have taxes, tariffs are better than income taxes.
Today, you can book the same trip for just over $100.
Found the spirit airlines customer.
Tariffs are one thing, but do you want Chinese cars and trucks on the road here? It’s interesting that both Biden and republicans cite national security as the reason they don’t want Chinese EVs in the US, even though some progs like the idea because they would be a lot cheaper than a Tesla or e-Mustang.
If EVs were truly "a lot cheaper" they'd never need 'Gov-Guns' in the equation.
Ah, so American EVs are bad because they need government subsidies, and Chinese EVs are bad because they're cheap. Gottit.
The Chinese government is subsidizing them.
What makes you assume China EVs aren't gov subsidized?
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/china-invests-546-billion-in-clean-energy-far-surpassing-the-u-s/
The race to government ran industry; also called 'socialism'.
At the national level called [Na]tional So[zi]al[ism].
The article really isn't clear enough: tariffs are purely and solely a domestic tax. They do not affect the other country. The reason politicians love them is that they are a tax that voters are persuaded to think is good, and that voters don't realise they pay.
So taxes are bad, and we should reduce them.
Do tell us how Sale-Point Taxes imposed on your widgets isn't going to have any effect on your sales.
Then tell us how 80% domestic taxes isn't having any effect on domestic manufacturing.
WE should oppose more taxes ... but why is the opposition so centered on JUST the taxes on YOUR widgets and nothing else? Shouldn't YOUR (foreign) widgets gets taxed fairly with everyone else's (domestic) at the very least?
When trump took office he proposed zero tariffs for all international trade. Our "trading partners" screamed their heads off. How would that have affected price inflation? Currently Trump is floating funding the entire federal government with tariffs and eliminating all federal taxes. The same way it was done prior to the 20th century. How would that affect consumers/taxpayers? The federal government is bankrupt and broken beyond repair. And it has very little to do with tariffs.
"it has very little to do with tariffs" ... and everything to do with [Na]tional So[zi]al[ism]. Indeed +1000000000000.
Agreed. Trump is terrible on this issue and some others. But, unfortunately, the world is a world of compromises.
As usual libertarians over simplify everything. Let's stipulate that tariffs raise prices. OK, that's bad.
Tariffs also reduce our dependence on foreign goods, albeit at a cost. Well, that could be good to a certain extent.
Tariffs prevent hostile foreign powers from controlling our markets/supplies. Neutral so long as its in the interests of the hostile power, bad if the hostile power decides to be actively hostile. So let's call that bad.
What about subsidized foreign goods? China uses slave labor to make some goods. If their goods are cheaper is it because US firms have to pay their workers to make the same goods. Is that free trade, fair trade, or something else? Net result, of course, is cheaper goods for US consumers so who cares if a bunch of them are out of work.
Whether tariffs are a net positive or a net negative really then depends on how much weight you not on cheaper goods versus the influence of a potentially hostile power on our economy.
Everything comes with a price.