Where Do Libertarians Stand on the Campus Wars?
Plus: A listener asks the editors about the magical thinking behind the economic ideas of Modern Monetary Theory.
In this week's The Reason Roundtable, editors Matt Welch, Katherine Mangu-Ward, Nick Gillespie, and Peter Suderman assess the spate of anti-Israel campus protests at universities across the country, followed by another look at the trials of both Harvey Weinstein and Donald Trump in New York.
00:37—Campus protests across the country
31:35—Weekly Listener Question
38:01—Harvey Weinstein rape conviction overturned in New York
44:01—Trump trials continue apace
48:57—This week's cultural recommendations
Mentioned in this podcast:
"Why Are College Kids Terrified?" a Q&A with Greg Lukianoff and Rikki Schlott by Nick Gillespie
"'Is College 'The Incubator of the Nanny State'? Nick Gillespie Talks with FIRE"
"Animal Farm 1970," by Lanny Friedlander
"Seriousness Crisis," by Liz Wolfe
"School's Out," by Christian Britschgi
"Texas Public Colleges Crack Down on Peaceful Anti-Israel Protests," by Emma Camp
"The Morningside Heights Tent City," by Liz Wolfe
"USC Cancels Valedictorian's Speech Over Bogus 'Safety Concerns,'" by Emma Camp
"There's Nothing Modern About MMT," by Alexander William Salter
"The Fiscal Hawks Were Right About Debt and Interest Rates," by Veronique de Rugy
"Why We Need To Shrink the National Debt, and Fast!" by Nick Gillespie
"Want To Boost Economic Growth? Tell the Government To Spend Less," by Veronique de Rugy
"Thanks for Democracy, Greece, but Don't Let the Door Hit You on the Way Out of 1st World!" by Nick Gillespie
"The Court Was Right To Overturn Harvey Weinstein's Rape Conviction," by Billy Binion
"Alvin Bragg's 'Election Interference' Narrative Is Nonsensical," by Jacob Sullum
"The Alarming Implications of Trump's Immunity Claim," by Jacob Sullum
"At Trump's Trial, a Window Into the Golden Era of Tabloids," by Michael Rothfeld
"Challengers Is the Horny Tennis Movie Hollywood Needs," by Peter Suderman
"Anarchy, State and Utopia," by Eric Mack
Nick Gillespie's upcoming interview with Students for Sensible Drug Policy's Kat Murti on May 8 in New York City
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Oh I don't know, why don't you ask one? Har har har! (did I do that right?)
As usual, no.
It’s obvious where the mainstream media stands.
By calling the protesting of our governments support for genocide in Gaza, “campus wars”.
Stupid Jews just don’t get it, that they have forever traded their bullshit perpetual victim status in for the status of genocidal pariahs with this genocide in Gaza.
Looks like bibi is scrambling calling up sleepy joe to protect him and his complicit ministers from arrest warrants soon to be issued by the ICJ for crimes against humanity.
Swing along with bibi on the gallows.
Fuck off and die, Nazi shit.
So what’s your origin story? Were you raised to spout this crap? Or did you fall in love with Hitler in school?
Tell us your tale.
His beliefs are probably the only noteworthy things about him.
The Hamas soldiers occupying the formerly prestigious college campuses are the new face of the KKK.
They are the democrat party.
They are hatefull and pro-war and anti-capitalist (Bernie Sanders).
They are welfare rats spewing hatred and very, very openly calling for the extermination of Jews. They are all democrats.
Jews, not Palestinians or Nazis or the KKK hahaha will have warrants for their arrest for committing genocide.
Let that soak in.
Libertarians should be thrilled to see the universities on the hook for every single negative outcome of the protests.
Remember how Harvard's plagiarist in chief, top antisemite and president, Claudine Gay, got "fired" but was allowed to still keep running the Uni and collecting her million dollar salary?
The repercussions and negative outcomes will be like that.
"it's a big club, and you ain't in it"
Why should libertarians be anti-university?
Because they're antisemitic indoctrination mills that twenty years ago gave up the pursuit of knowledge and inquiry in order to evangelize a Foucaultian pseudo-religious cult, which views the world solely as a Marxian struggle of power relationships and is incompatible with libertarian philosophical views by it's nature. And because these indoctrination mills suck up billions of taxpayers dollars each year to provide a zero value product, while still soaking their customers for their parents life savings.
^BINGO
Does that include Hillsdale College?
No.
Oh I see. So universities are okay as long as they are indoctrinating students in the "correct" way.
Yeah, that's what the fight is really over. Who gets to do the brainwashing. Not that brainwashing is bad.
The Commie part of education gives the 'brainwashing' term substance. There is a difference between learning something and being forced to learn what isn't a reflection of reality.
That’s a very stupid take.
That is correct. Because the USA is based on a Supreme Law that patriots don't consider 'indoctrination' like treasonous leftards do.
"Since the late 20th century, in order to opt out of the US government's Title IX requirements, Hillsdale has declined government financial support. Instead, Hillsdale depends entirely on private donations to supplement students' tuition.
So it's not sinkhole for federal tax dollars.
The indoctrination may be present and may be similarly one-sided, but at least tax payers are not being forced to foot the bill.
But they do the bad indoctrination!
That's completely wrong. They gave up the pursuit of knowledge at least 30 yrs. ago.
Because they're pro individual responsibility and consequences?
Universities are opposed to individual responsibility and consequences?
lmao. As-if Biden's loan forgiveness doesn't close that case.
You don't get out much, do ya?
He’s doing his sophist thing again. He needs to be beaten with a pipe wrench whenever he does that.
For the same reason we’re against all other levels of “public education” (that is to say, government run education)?
"University" is not the same as "public university".
Columbia and USC are both private universities that are participating heavily in the Gaza protests.
One can be pro-university while being against its public funding.
Columbia and USC are both private universities that participate heavily in B.O.E. standards and federal grants.
There fixed that for you.
Even if they quit their government funding addiction with the loans and the grants, and went fully privately funded, at which point they could do whatever retarded woke thing they wanted without interference, we would all still be well within our rights to criticize them for their policies and actions. And there would still be nothing wrong with them finding themselves on the receiving end of the negative consequences of their decisions.
There’s plenty to criticize. FIRE does an excellent job showcasing these places complete lack of objectivity or their insane viewpoint discrimination.
Which, while I think they have an absolute right to express their opinions in such a manner as a nominally private institution, that doesn’t absolve them of bearing criticism for it. Especially when they present themselves as bastions of free thought. At least you know what ridiculousness you’re in for with your Brigham Young’s, Liberty’s, and Hillsdales.
How are they on the hook? Students get loans and grants and whatnot. Universities get huge donations every year from alumni. And most major universities have huge endowments that are basically hedge funds. Columbia for instance has $13.64 billion in assets. At like 4.5% return, they make 600 hundred million a year.
I think it would be just terrific if Trump (assuming he succeeds in November) signed an executive order confiscating the endowments of all these woke universities and giving reparations to the decent Americans that have suffered because of them.
Since that sort of thing is what universities support I’m sure they will have the courage of their convictions and support such an action.
Yes. They should.
I don't want to pay for Israel to bomb Hamas. I don't want pay for feeding Hamas. But Israel can buy our bombs and do as they please to Hamas. And Hamas can buy food from us. This is what I consider fair to myself. I am fine with not selling weapons to Hamas. They have more than proven that they cannot be trusted.
Not sure how to get my corrupt government to go this way. Seems like we need some session/revolution.
Eventually, we will run out of money.
Nobody ever went broke selling weapons. --- Ferengi proverb.
The best thing for business is war.
The best thing for business is peace.
Both from the Rules of Aqusition.
Stay away from rule 112.
We can't run out of money, because people are gullible enough to take our money as I.O.Us.
We can definitely devalue the hell out of it.
We should make the E.U. countries pay tribute for protecting them.
We do. They keep sucking up T-Bills. The UK is our #3 debt owner ($668 billion), followed by Belgium ($331 billion), followed by Luxembourg ($318 billion).
Ask yourself why a landlocked country with a population of 653k who all work in finance and which employs 939(!) full-time military personnel wants to buy basically 0-interest debt from America. It ain't to pad their GDP.
But they get paid back. Instead, they can just pay.
They get paid back.
Yeah, and the US government pays off the entire national debt every year (with more debt). Uncle Sam pays off those t-bills with additional t-bills that Europe is obligated to buy. It's actually kind of genius when you think about it: If Europe decides to stop buying T-bills at any time the dollar crashes and everyone holding the US Dollar gets washed (and those sweet tanks and missiles will definitely dry up as well). America has essentially hooked the world up to a scummy national defense service contract where once you start not only do you lose your defense if you quit, your economy crashes as well.
Do you think Trump doesn’t understand this, or, is he about to charge additional fees or percentages of their GDPs etc?
Good thread
Do these precious darlings really have so little wrong in thier lives that they need to protest something with no relation to themselves and no power to change?
They've been trained, and in many cases paid, to do this.
and in many cases paid
I'd love to know, specifically, who pays and organizes, and why.
Because an awful lot of this shit is very specifically meant to foment division, to cause problems and make people unhappy. It is not spontaneous. I know Soros, and I also know China has undue influence on its citizens and people who are here but have family back there. And we've seen obvious ops from government agencies here.
I'd just find it super interesting. A spreadsheet, listing who did what, where, and how many people were paid vs. how many joined in because all their friends were doing it. You know, socialist butterflies, wanting to be part of the latest thing.
Same is true for older protests, like who jumped in on the Occupy protests specifically to make it whackadoodle, vs the people who started it. Or Tea Party. Or the Burn Loot and Murder, and Summer 2020 Antifa mostly peaceful protests.
[Na]tional So[zi]alist[s] do. Everyday in legislation by passing more 'armed-theft' *power* for the UN-Constitutional Nazi-Empire Agencies.
The evidence is most dominant in the 'global warming' mob or I mean 'climate changes' or I mean 'the weather changes' mob. Which was paid to be indoctrinated into everyone's kids by the Commie-Indoctrination camps (public education). Of course 'journalist' subsidies and White House censorship plays a big role as well for those not in Commie-Indoctrination Camps. Selling the ideology that 'Guns' against those 'icky' people is how to make a living instead of *EARNING* anything.
This is just such a telling comment.
When thousands of students protest against a war that they believe is unjust, the kneejerk assumption is that they are part of some paid conspiracy financed by foreign powers to undermine America.
But when thousands of Real Muricans protest against an election that they believe is unjust, the kneejerk assumption is that they deserve to have their voices heard and are expressing their sovereign rights of free speech and free association. Not being paid, no conspiracy to undermine America.
You all just keep confirming what I already think is true about right-wingers: liberty is only for those who are morally righteous, and the morally righteous are conservatives. Everyone else is not.
George Soros Caught Funding Groups Behind Pro-Hamas Protests
George Soros is literally a holocaust survivor. Whatever conspiracy theories you might make about him, the idea that he's out there trying to murder or knowingly support the murder of jews is absurd.
Wouldn't be the first time Soros assisted in the murder of Jews.
Soros is a Nazi collaborator by his own administration, and laughs about it.
You all just keep confirming what I already think is true about left-wingers:
liberty is only for those who have the "unjust war clear across the globe" religion, and one's own election integrity is just a bad case of ?morally righteousness? that definitely needs prosecuted.
Do you ever tire of being proven objectively wrong so consistently?
The comments are vapid, without any backup other than sheer misplaced smugness. People bring receipts and you just move on to the next terrible take, like nothing happened.
Goddamn Fatfuck, you really just made a fool out of yourself. There is so much dark money going into the ‘anti-war’ pro Hamas movement. And it goes far beyond Soros. It isn’t even well hidden.
Seriously, just who DO you think is coordinating all of this, and paying for everything? Or are you just thinking about your next 55 gallon drum of Ben & Jerry’s Extra Saturated Fat Sugar Goo Surprose?
Wait, is that grey bar actually trying to say that there's no funding or manipulation involved in this stuff?
That fact is an open secret. Soros is identifiable because they're so blatant about it. Even bragging with some of their tactics, like when they figured out that pouring money into local races could get them more bang for their buck, so they installed officials like prosecutors in small races (for only one example). Lots of studies have shown manipulation by many actors foreign and domestic in the past. Even the FBI reports on the Trump election showed that, though it was buried because it said things like the Russian influence was entirely focused on sewing dissent and making people angry regardless of political alignment. College researchers have done studies on media manipulation and even identified unchecked influence from various sources based on things like IP addresses, user ID and patterns, etc.
Every time there's been a large grass-roots movement, some political entity has taken it over, adulterated it, and changed it. Every college has been the subject of ideological purges, and the massive use of heckler's vetoes in a way that only places like Berkley once were. Election year political violence has been remarkably well controlled and focused, far too much for an anarchist interpretation of events.
Evidence abounds.
The question isn't whether people are bolstering divisive protesters, and divisive ideological movements like the current Pro Hamas people. It's merely a question of who and by how much.
That's what I would find interesting. Never going to get it, of course, just a thought I had.
Jeffy is indeed doing just that. I fully expect him to makes some sophist semantical argument insisting that there is is no dark money finding the protests.
I'm gonna both sides you here...
When the Tea Party protests started against the TARP bailouts, leftists immediately thought it was an astroturf protest, instead of a genuine grassroots movement (despite the evidence that Ron Paul had an actual grassroots movement already started).
This isn't an anti war protest. What you're seeing is antisemitic mob illegally occupying school grounds to intimidate Jewish students and spew hateful rhetoric. Classes are cancelled. The president of Columbia had to make a public statement addressing those students who felt threatened and targeted. Do you have internet connection in your part of town?
Chem, we all knew you were going to make the ham-fisted comparison to J6. The hallmark of TDS is the zeal to denigrate Trump supporters as cultists who sold out their principles. This requires playing equivalency game without any context or perspective to create an illusion of double standards.
To you, Trump saying "Mexico isn't sending us the best people" is on the same level of "From river to the sea", which is a chant for genocide. We can't condemn the latter unless we condemn the former. It's ridiculous.
The only zealot here is you. You and Sarc. Your singular hatred of Trump defines and motivates every thing you do here. I've seen you defend Zelensky taking over tv stations because "it's war". The right wing isn't too keen on Ukraine, so you take the opposite position by default. You have more in common with these "protesters" than you think.
BTW, this has to be said - these protesters don't care about the people in Gaza. The hatred of Jews motivate every little thing they do. Do you see them condemning Iran for supporting Russia in their occupation of Ukraine? Why didn't they take to the streets when the Iranian national guard were shooting at female protesters? They care about Gaza as much as BLM cares about white victims of police shootings..
Well said!
You haven't been watching the existential climate crisis, have you?
Good one +1000000000000.
Why all this existential crisis talk when climate change failed to interrupt the London Blitz?
Say what you want, but this is how the Iranian revolution started. First angry protesters espousing Islam and terrorism, and boom, they take over the government.
While we likely won't have an armed revolution, these are the people who are going to become the backbone of the Federal government and giant corporations
Hell, in a lot of cases these people are the children of those in power.
these are the people who [...] bec[a]me the backbone of the Federal government and giant corporations
Fixed.
See my reply below for the Libertarian reply to Islamofascism and Looney Leftism.
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Iran is a Muslim majority nation, we’re not. We just need to shoot all the Marxists.
The other thing is that the revolution wasn't meant to be Islamist for a large number of the useful idiot students.
Many were secularists, who were battling both the Shah and the hard liners. There was a massive push to reject western influence, much of it trying to tear down liberalization as colonialism, not as social advancement. Good propaganda, really, which tickled the nationalism fancy of the idealist youth, and the conspiracy theory ideals of older folks that their whole world was controlled by the CIA. "Iran for iranians" and "Iran is Islamic" etc were great things to rally around.
All the secularist and liberal politicians jumped on the revolution bandwagon. Probably all thought they could get a role in the new government, but they completely ignored that Khomeini, who was pretty much the popular leader in exile of the revolution by 1978, when western media was still fawning over him, was all about absolutely the opposite of freedom, liberty, and secularism.
The hardliner islamists swept into the power vacuum that happened after. The secularists and liberals got nothing. Less than nothing. And the kids screaming for freedom, ignoring who was controlling them, got exactly what they deserved when they backed a regressive asshole like Khomeini.
The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend. And forming a government in the chaos of a post-revolution power struggle almost never works.
I mean, we did replace the democratically elected guy with the Shah, but they’d mostly because the people had elected a fucking commie.
A fair amount of the people that supported the overthrow of the shah thought that they were going to throw off the shackles of western imperialism and colonialism for the utopia of a communist state.
Even in the protest in 2010(?), a lot of the state side kids protesting were fomenting for communism.
The CIA ran that op without authorization or oversight, too. The dude nationalized BP (specifically the Anglo-Iranian oil company, which was the arm of what would be BP) and got the brits all in a tizzy. The Dulles brothers (John Foster was Sec. of State, Allan was director of the CIA) drove it.
The Shah wasn't even consulted. They said "we're doing it with or without you" and ran. John Foster Dulles was pretty fucking hardcore. Big fan of Ike, personally, but his not keeping a leash on that putbull might be one of his failures.
Anyway, the propaganda campaign Dulles and Roosevelt put out in 53 was stunning. Fomenting protests and conflicts, hundreds killed in the protests. By 1978 there were only a couple of CIA agents in the country, including the embassy, but the memory of '53 was enough to make all the kids in the revolution think the CIA was pulling ALL the strings. They weren't, the Shah was afraid of them after their running him over 25 years before, and was adamant they limit their presence in the country.
Mobs don't care. They're irrational, especially when they're kids. And, yes, there was a lot of communist sympathizers, and socialist, in those protests. I remember. I also remember the WTO riots and similar late 90s anarchists/communists/socialists/puppet show/Rage Against the MAchine protests, when a huge socialist push was coming. Those were only stalled by 9/11 when it wasn't cool to be anti-American unless you were calling Americans racist for not liking "ragheads" -- a term I never heard used before 9/11.
College kids are dumb. Always have been.
So, yeah, we're not majority Muslim. But the revolution might not be about Islam, the islamists and their sympathizers are just the useful idiots for others who want to secure their power.
It happens, and you've got to be quite the fucking idiot to believe that setting up tents at Columbia is going to get you anything. Unless you think you'll secure your position post revolution.
The revolution will be Marxist. So get rid of the Marxists. I favor a constitutional amendment criminalizing the practice of Marxism. I also favor eliminating the Democrat party. Democrat media can be taken down using existing federal election laws, and then applying RICO.
In any event, they have to go. They’ve made it clear it will be them or us.
Ackshuyally, not so with Iran. Anonymous online surveys done by non-government sources say that large portions of Iranians do not identify as Muslim and even those who identify as Muslim do so under duress from the Mullahs' regime and are not observant of all tenets and practices of Islam.
All that’s needed is the right set of circumstances and the Mullahs in Iran could easily face an uprising. I sure hope they have one, as it would both free the Iranian people from Theocratic tyranny and rid the world of a long-standing threat to peace.
The mullahs would be gone already if Obama and Biden would stop helping them.
That's not how America prevailed in the cold war.
How many Marxists have you ever argued with, and won ?
If a University were a heterodox marketplace of ideas then I'd say may the best idea win.
But they aren't, are they?
Where Do Libertarians Stand on the Campus Wars?
Here, just above the neck!…Poised with a sawed-off shotgun and a Hemp Gadsden “Liberty Or Death” Pride Flag saying: “*Tsk!* ‘T’weren’t nothin’!”
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Fuckin’ a bubba!
Merely expressing a viewpoint, even a stupid, hateful viewpoint, isn’t what does it for me, of course.
When these protesters start blocking people’s freedom of movement in the streets, and getting Jews too scared to attend classes, and openly identifying with Hamas and Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad, they have crossed a line. Here’s where the guns should come out.
Where stands the re-gargleator on Recreational Whaling ?
Campus freedom has no meaning if Freshmen can't shoot Grampus
Where Do Libertarians Stand on the Campus Wars?
And more importantly, does anyone care?
Spoiler alert.
Sure don't know where Nick gets his take on the Sixties, which, unlike him, I lived through. What part of "Up against the wall, motherfucker! This is a stickup!" don't you understand, Nick? Reason itself has published a number of poignent takes on the wanton destruction of academic papers that occurred during the battle of Morningside Heights. And what's with turning Foucault and the rest of his po-mo pals into bourgeois constitutionalists, which is precisely what they weren't? Again, what part of "deconstruct" don't you understand? The whole point of that movement was to expose, denigrate, and devalue the past. They were supposed to be "dangerous". Anyone who is interested in, you know, "the truth", can check out this long post at my old "Literature R Us" blog, "CRT v. Anti-CRT: Wait, Wait! You’re BOTH Right! Occasionally." Happy reading!
Uh, if you read Lanny Friedlander's original articles in the early days of Reason, he didn't like the New Left Nihilists of the Sixties any more than The Establishment of his day. And now that New Leftist Nihilists are The Establishment, I'm sure he would have hated it even worse today.
I think I'll hard pass on any drivel you have to say on your virtual fish-wrap blog.
Where Do Libertarians Stand on the Campus Wars?
The implication is that there is One True Opinion that a member of the Libertarian Church must hold. You need a new headline writer.
Everything a libertarian needs to know about the current goings-on, Ayn Rand wrote in "The Cashing In: The Student 'Rebellion'" sixty years ago.
“ …young creatures who scream, in chronic terror, that they know nothing and want to rule everything.”
If the campus is private property, they can enforce a “no camping” rule and boot everyone out at night.
Whether the campus is public or private, they can enforce a “no disruption” rule and arrest anyone who impedes the progress of people doing their jobs, or students going to class, or makes so much noise that classes are disrupted.
Wave whatever signs you like. (Just don't be surprised if no one wants to hire a terrorist sympathizer or anti-Semite.) Go chant on YouTube.
I'm a libertarian and I find liberals and campuses to be distasteful.
And Liberals + campuses- DOUBLY SO!
No further questions!!
There are no "campus wars", just thug behavior from a small group of of shrill, mentally ill and unintelligent toddlers.
Leave the Harvard Corporation out of this.
Students holding campaign signs for a Republican for the District told to leave campus by university rep and police. Students with LBGT+ signs at same event permitted to continue.
https://twitter.com/AprilCromerSC/status/1777545489665126543
University later says the rep was wrong and that no policies were being violated.:
During Saturday’s spring football game, an incident occurred in which a student organization was improperly asked to curtail an exercise of free speech. This isolated occurrence has been addressed both with the student organization, which will not face any sanctions or discipline, as well as with security personnel. We will continue to educate both University employees as well as contracted security personnel on the rights and policies regarding free speech on Clemson’s campus.
As a campus community, we recognize our role as a marketplace for the exchange of ideas and support the right for students to assemble and express their views
– Clemson University
It’s getting crazier. Car ramming in London and guy with a sword. One dead three injured so far.
Let’s fight every military and political wrong since the beginning of written history, and stir up shit. even Tucker Carlson’s doing it. On the internet!
My opinion on the campus stuff is “who cares”. You get into bed with the left and radical Marxists, turn violent felonies into misdemeanors and this shit is gonna happen. The U.S. is a welfare state, that genie is out of the bottle.
Thanks very much for including pointers to all those articles.
Peaceful students that do not interfere with university business and students (let alone destroy anything) - fine, as long as the university is okay with them doing so on their property.
Students that advocate or do violence or otherwise interfere with university business - arrest first time, arrest and expulsion second. Anyone threatening Jews - Hate Crime Prosecution.
Any non-students involved - Arrest and prosecution elevated to a felony as soon as possible.
Any one claiming to be Hamas, whether in jest or not, whether student or not, Arrest and a one way ticket to Gitmo for interrogation. They want to claim to be Hamas (i.e. a terrorist) on US soil, then let them be treated as such.... Dumb asses.
Full disclosure - I did not listen to this. Or even really do more than skim the article.
But it seems this question can be answered very easily:
Where Do Libertarians Stand on the Campus Wars?
Well - do you A) hate the Jews on an existential level and want them exterminated off the face of the planet; or B) are you not a nazi/terrorist/psychopath.
Can someone who listened tell me which side they came down on? (Bated breath!)
I stand upwind of the campus wars.
Sorry, , alll you childless REASON commentators but I am a parent before I am a Libertarian. I pay out the ass so that my child can 'read, write, and figger"
Loot at the stats, decline in all 3 areas
RFEADING
The Literacy Project reports that the average American reads at a 7th to 8th-grade level. This means that most people can understand and use language at the level expected of students in the 7th and 8th grades
WRITING
About 68% of those starting at two-year public institutions and 40% of students enrolled in public four-year universities took at least one remedial writing class between 2003 to 2009, according to an original report from the Department of Education.
MATH
at the bottom of the pack internationally. In the 2013 study, the United States earned:
Lower overall numeracy scores than the international average
A higher percentage of low performers than the international average
Lower numeracy scores than we had in 2003
Worse: Our overall numeracy score has taken a nine-point dive since the 1993 study.
YOur analysis strikes me like one that would admire the decor at a fastfood place where many die of food poisoning.
Hey, nice color of ceiling. ,