The 5th Circuit Says Criminalizing Journalism Is Not Obviously Unconstitutional
The appeals court dismissed a civil rights lawsuit by a Laredo gadfly who was arrested for asking questions.

Five years ago, the Harris County, Texas, Institute of Forensic Sciences sent me reports on the autopsies of two people who had been killed in a Houston drug raid. After I wrote an article based on those reports, the county attorney's office told me they were not public information because they were part of an ongoing investigation.
Although I did not realize it at the time, I had committed a felony just by asking for that information. You might think a law that criminalizes journalism is obviously unconstitutional. But if so, you are wrong, according to a decision that the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit issued last week.
The case involves Priscilla Villarreal, a Laredo gadfly and DIY journalist who was arrested in 2017 for violating Section 39.06(c) of the Texas Penal Code. Under that law, a person who "solicits or receives" information that "has not been made public" from a government official "with intent to obtain a benefit" commits a third-degree felony, punishable by two to 10 years in prison.
Villarreal allegedly did that by asking Laredo police officer Barbara Goodman about a suicide and a fatal car crash. Goodman confirmed the name and job of a U.S. Border Patrol employee who had jumped off a Laredo overpass and the last name of an accident victim. Villarreal included that information in reports on her locally popular Facebook page.
Texas defines "benefit" as "anything reasonably regarded as economic gain or advantage." According to the arrest affidavits, the "benefit" that Villarreal sought was a boost in Facebook traffic.
Section 39.06(c) defines "information that has not been made public" as "any information to which the public does not generally have access" that is also "prohibited from disclosure" under the Texas Public Information Act. The arrest affidavits did not address the latter requirement at all.
Although this law has been on the books for more than two decades, no one has ever been convicted under it. Nor had Laredo police ever charged anyone with violating it.
After a Texas judge blocked Villarreal's prosecution, deeming the statute unconstitutionally vague, she filed a federal lawsuit against the officers who were involved in her arrest, arguing that they targeted her because they were irked by her vocal criticism of local law enforcement agencies. She noted that several cops had mocked her after the arrest, laughing while snapping pictures with their cellphones.
A federal judge dismissed Villarreal's lawsuit after concluding that the officers were protected by qualified immunity, which allows federal civil rights claims only when they allege misconduct that violated "clearly established" law. A 5th Circuit panel overruled that decision in 2021.
"Priscilla Villarreal was put in jail for asking a police officer a question," Judge James Ho wrote. "If that is not an obvious violation of the Constitution, it's hard to imagine what would be."
After rehearing the case, nine of Ho's colleagues disagreed, ruling that the officers had probable cause to arrest Villarreal and that the law was not so blatantly unconstitutional that they should have recognized it was inconsistent with the First Amendment. The majority faulted Villarreal for using a "backchannel source," a routine reporting practice that has exposed abuses such as Watergate, the My Lai massacre, Vietnam War deception, and torture at the Abu Ghraib prison.
Seven judges dissented. They noted that Laredo police had spent months investigating Villarreal—a far cry from the "split-second judgments" to which qualified immunity supposedly applies. "If the First Amendment means anything," Ho wrote, "surely it means that citizens have the right to question or criticize public officials without fear of imprisonment."
The Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE) represented Villarreal, who drew support from ideologically diverse groups, including press associations, the Institute for Justice, the Cato Institute, the Constitutional Accountability Center, the Electronic Frontier Foundation, Project Veritas, and Young America's Foundation. Unlike the 5th Circuit majority, they recognized the perils of treating journalism as a crime.
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Or is it a communist law? So hard to tell.
Either Koch accidentally sent out both yellow envelopes, or Binion and Sullum are both banging Priscilla Villarreal?
Either way…awkward.
Pretty sure Sullum prefers little boys and Binion would probably only go for it if she pegged him.
Regardless, from a libertarian perspective this story isn't deserving of the attention and outrage they're giving it
They, Reason, will never report on the multiple journalists already and still being attested for covering J6.
https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-blaze-journalist-who-covered-jan-6-to-be-charged-by-biden-doj
Or posting memes.
Tweets are dangerous.
Or the pro-life protesters that wer just convicted the other day.
And gross. She nasty.
What's missing here is the clarity that needs to be articulated before anyone can meaningfully discuss the matter.
What is a "journalist?" And by contrast, what is definitively "not a journalist?" And do we dilute the term and its meaning when it's misapplied?
If you're not going to answer that, then you're relying on your audience's pre-existing prejudices to define it for you - which turns an article into a narrative.
citizens have the right to question or criticize public officials without fear of imprisonment.
Absolutely. But does questioning or criticizing public officials magically transform its doing so into "journalism?"
Public officials shouldn't ever be above reproach, but does seeking information and ranting about it put some rando's facebook page in the same category as a press outlet?
The question of “what is a journalist” is irrelevant. Journalists have to abide by the same rules as everybody else. In particular, they are prohibited from publishing most private/personal information without consent, and they don’t have a license to obtain information from government by misrepresentation.
“Don’t have a right to obtain information”
The cry of every lying waste of skin corrupt fascist.
Truth is reality. Who doesn’t have a right to enquire about it?
Your quote isn’t what he said you Nazi retard. So that’s you lying.
According to your own rules, you committed a crime. Are you ready to go to prison now?
The most severe consequence that any level of government in the USA should be able to impose on anyone (journalist or not) just for requesting/soliciting information that's not releasable to the public would be to deny the release of that information. Anything more than that would violate the 1st Amendment, which applies to state/local governments as well under the 14th Amendment.
Even for the most highly classified military/CIA secrets, there's nothing in Federal law which would allow for any penalty on an uncleared person who asks for a copy; anyone cleared for access to that information who releases it to an uncleared individual could be subject to severe penalties (except for the sitting President, who can claim that releasing such information amounted to declassifying it on the spot because the rules of classification are rooted in Executive Orders, while the rules of handling classified material is defined in laws passed through the Legislature). Once an uncleared person does obtain classified information, there aren't really any restrictions on how/where they can distribute it unless the manner and motivation for doing so put them legitimately on the wrong side of the Espionage Act.
The wording of the Texas law does seem to be constructed to specifically prohibit a fundamental activity of journalism, in particular when it's being done by someone being paid to operate in that capacity. The place to restrict that interaction would be to prohibit any official from releasing non-public information to pretty much anyone without a legitimate "need to know" based on participation within whatever that information is being used for. Laws against asking are very problematic, especially without any requirement that the person making the request know that the information isn't publicly releasable at the time.
If you’re not going to answer that, then you’re relying on your audience’s pre-existing prejudices to define it for you
yeah, like 'art' or... community standards
"does seeking information and ranting about it put some rando’s facebook page in the same category as a press outlet?"
The answer is yes, we all have the same first amendment right to publish. It doesn't matter if one is a professional or only publishes occasionally.
It seems to me the government position is a journalist is someone who whores themselves out to government.
The article is complete nonsense.
The court didn’t rule on the constitutionality of the law, it simply ruled against being able to sue police for arresting people under the law. Since the law has not been challenged in court nor repealed, it is valid and on the books and police can arrest people for violating it.
As for the law itself, it isn’t “criminalizing journalism”, it is criminalizing the commercial use of certain private information. Whether that conflicts with the 1A is unclear and will remain unclear until a court settles it. The 1A does not mean that journalists can publish any information they obtain from government without legal consequences.
One has to wonder whether Sullum really is this superficial and stupid, or whether he actually understands what’s going on and is deliberately trying to mislead readers.
I really wonder how much of this issue with Reason derives from their ideological blinders vs actual malicious disinformation. To a degree I'm willing to believe they are informed by similarly biased sources who omit information and they further ignore/miss/omit information that doesn't serve their specific narrative. The patterns indicate it is intentional and malicious because even though mainstream media buries contrasting information they still include some that contradicts their narrative
I’m pretty sure it’s intentional, because it’s so systematic. It’s gotten to the point where, if they outrage over some court decision, I can reliably expect that if I bother to check on the details, I’ll find they omitted something that completely changes how things look.
You know, like that case where the felon got in trouble for lying on her voter registration form, and Reason just swallowed her claim that it was an innocent mistake, hook, line, and sinker? Why didn’t the judge believe her? Why?
Because her felony conviction had literally been for advising people to lie on forms and then claim it was an innocent mistake if they got caught… You’d think that would have been worth mentioning.
I mean, I really hate QI, and all, but not all applications of it are totally insane.
The legal system did in fact conclude that this was a wrongful arrest, because the law was unconstitutional. But the law was found unconstitutional AFTER that arrest, not before. How is the freaking cop supposed to know that the law he’s enforcing is going to be struck down at some point in the future?
Enforcing the laws on the book is his job, he’s got to presume them to be constitutional unless they’re a lot more clearly whacked than this one was.
It's possible that it's just them being lazy, and only talking to the defendant, never the prosecution. But it's bitten them enough times that they really should know better by now.
How is the freaking cop supposed to know that the law he’s enforcing is going to be struck down at some point in the future?
Enforcing the laws on the book is his job, he’s got to presume them to be constitutional unless they’re a lot more clearly whacked than this one was.
The thing that actually irks me the most about all of this is the simultaneous inversion or selective interpretation of the "journalism" title in order to trump this up into a/the 1A crisis case which it isn't. Villarreal isn't Woodward or Bernstein blowing open the Watergate case (as more or less anachronistic as that interpretation may be), she isn't Mac Isaac standing around going "Holy shit! WTF am I supposed to do with this laptop?", she isn't Julian Assange or Edward Snowden broadly documenting federal level rights violations of any/all Americans, she isn't even really Jerry Springer or Geraldo Rivera, moderately better than Nakoula Basseley Nakoula and, yet, with all the actual Alex Jones, J6 prosecutions, FACE Act, Twitter Files, Facebook Files, Greater Barrington Declaration, "kick Trump off Twitter but make Twitter a public forum"... despite all the Federalist layer cake elevator games in all of the above *this* is hinge on which all of Western Society swings.
Fuck any and all the dishonest pretentious asshats for taking my time to give this activist attention whore the portion of my thought processes she demands. Your utter lack of ethics is the real Constitutional crisis undermining the 1A.
I’ve had much of the same thoughts. At first it appeared to be slipshod reporting. But over time the pattern has become clear. To Reason, facts underlying a story are a buffet. Reason writers feel free to select and omit the items that support the message they’re selling. No matter how misleading.
I not only don’t trust them anymore. I now actively distrust them.
"How is the freaking cop supposed to know that the law he’s enforcing is going to be struck down at some point in the future?" He should know the fundamental laws of the land, and this law is _obviously_ in conflict with the First Amendment.
Now, he would have cover if before the arrest he got the DA to get a warrant signed by the judge, provided he supplied full and accurate information in the warrant application. Anyone with a law degree that doesn't know this law is unconstitutional on the face should be stripped of that law degree and required to pay damages to the arrestee - but if he's genuinely that ignorant of the law, his law school should repay him anything it costs him plus the costs of a new degree at a better school! Unfortunately, that's not how judge-made law works; prosecutors and judges are even better protected from lawsuits than cops.
Spot on analysis. As to the statute itself, it smells like prior restraint and looks destined to be voided, but I stipulate to being an old school absolutist type on free speech.
Douglas and Black would make short work of this case. Here’s Douglas: “The fact that the liberty of the press may be abused by miscreant purveyors of scandal does not make any the less necessary the immunity of the press from previous restraint in dealing with official misconduct."
The desire to hold individual police personally responsible for enforcing a which has not yet been declared unconstitutional is badly motivated, even if the law is deemed unconstitutional in the future. You have a better argument for suing the department or or government as a whole.
The measure of (her) motivation to challenge police enforcement actions is tethered to how the police leveraged the law. In this instance, we observed raw abuse. No excuse for it. You don't need a law degree to grasp that a reporter can ask questions about arrests, get nosy about investigations or probe the stench of your conduct.
She responded appropriately. The burden ought to be on cops to know basic law-not to mention civil liberties-if they want to serve as its guardians. They already get immunity; compelling them to understand when that immunity is specious ain't asking too much.
Have you always been this dense, or did you have to work at it?
If you go read the opinions, you'll see some remarkable things:
(1) The majority doesn't have a good answer for the failure to deal with the fact that the charging document didn't really grapple with clause (d) of the statute. That's a problem, as it's black letter law that PC has to apply to each element.
(2) The majority really doesn't deal with the selective prosecution issue at all. Your post doesn't either.
Your post also presupposes that the government can arrest people for asking questions of government officials if those government officials decide to answer. That's quite literally insane. (Note: whether or not there's a benefit is besides the point, as the 1A protects the speech rights of those who wish to make money off the speech--note also that this isn't "commercial speech.") The majority never ever ever deals with this issue.
"After a Texas judge blocked Villarreal's prosecution, deeming the statute unconstitutionally vague,"
Did you even fucking read it?
So the blocking of the prosecution came before the arrest? Or are you just naturally stupid and dishonest?
"The court didn’t rule on the constitutionality of the law,"
said in the comment above.
“After a Texas judge blocked Villarreal’s prosecution, deeming the statute unconstitutionally vague,”
in the fucking article.
Right, the arrest happened before the law had been deemed unconstitutionally vague, or is the 1A such an über-mega-omni-ninja-ultra-alpha-meta-neo-prefix-superprecedent in your mind that it also voids ex post facto?
I think Randy’s point was that NOYB2 was wrong and the court actually did rule on the constitutionality of the law, based off of this: “After a Texas judge blocked Villarreal’s prosecution, deeming the statute unconstitutionally vague,”
I don’t necessarily agree as that seems to just be saying it’s vague, not flat out constitutional.
So, just to be clear, you guys think the local police abused their decision-making authority and, to appropriately legally address the issue, the solution is to penalize them (or really the taxpayers) for not being sufficiently speculative of the law's (future) Constitutionality?
Because it really looks an awful lot like you’re either deliberately misinterpreting a number of fairly fundamental legal principles (as well as causality) or obliviously stepping over the corpses of federalism, ex post facto, equality before the law, separation of powers, peaceably assembly, 1st party consent vs. 3rd party doctrine, and criminal law vs. civil law in order to punch yourselves in the dick.
How stupid are you? First of all, there's the selective prosecution 1A issue. Cf. Yick Wo v. Hopkins. Second of all, she was prosecuted for asking a question of a government official. Any cop knows better.
First of all, there’s the selective prosecution 1A issue. Cf. Yick Wo v. Hopkins.
Well, either the claimant didn't raise that issue or the court ruled that it didn't apply.
Second of all, she was prosecuted for asking a question of a government official.
The 1A does not guarantee you a right to ask government officials any questions without consequences. For example, "If I give you $1000, will you let me get out of my ticket?" is criminal.
The dissent has far better of the argument on the pleading issue. Try reading the opinions.
As for your second point, that's clearly speech as action, i.e., offering a bribe. Try again.
You made my point for me: "asking questions" can amount to a crime.
I made no judgement of the police or the case in my comment. I was just pointing out Randy’s post wasn’t about the timing, it was just calling out NOYB2 that a court had ruled it unconstitutional. Maybe I misinterpreted what he was doing.
Personally though, if a law is written that a reasonable person (ha) can read and go “that doesn’t seem constitutional”, it should be thrown into the woodchipper. That way the cops don’t even have the chance to enforce it. (I’d also argue that if a reasonable person could recognize a law is unconstitutional, the cops have a duty to NOT enforce it against anyone, but that might be asking too much.)
Personally though, if a law is written that a reasonable person (ha) can read and go “that doesn’t seem constitutional”, it should be thrown into the woodchipper.
Yeah, if the last several years of fake news has taught us anything, it should be that one person’s good faith “Journalists shouldn’t be allowed to bribe cops for private information.” is the next person’s “The 1A is a systemically racist construct. The vaccines are 100% safe and effective with no downsides.”
To wit: I don’t think the 1A is systematically racist or that journalists should be able to bribe cops for private information, but then I’m not the one nominally espousing themselves as the progenitor of a well-informed populace and then spouting off like Chicken Little when a legitimate “Is is free speech or not?” question gets settled in court *as intended by the 1A* (while generally ignoring J6 and FACE Act prosecutions that violate the non-speech portions of the 1A under laws passed directly by Congress).
From one of the dissenting opinions:
"The majority at times conflates that right with the government’s
prerogative to “guard against the dissemination of private facts.” Fla. Star, 491 U.S. at 534. But those two principles are not mutually exclusive—the government’s power to protect certain information has little to do with a person’s right to ask for it. This case does not concern the rights of the officer who furnished Villarreal with information, or what means a local government
may use to prevent employees from exposing sensitive information. It concerns only the rights of a third party who did nothing more than ask."
This is unimpeachably right. Try reading the actual opinions.
"The court" the article is talking about is the appeals court. It didn't rule on the constitutionality of the law because that wasn't the question. The court ruled on whether police acted improperly given the laws at the time.
The court that ruled on the constitutionality of the law was a different court, and their ruling came after the police arrest; therefore, its decision was irrelevant to the question of whether police acted properly.
well, not irrelevant . . . . try getting that right./
Yes, the subsequent decision on the constitutionality of the law is IRRELEVANT to the question whether the arrest was improper.
“The court didn’t rule on the constitutionality of the law,” said in the comment above.
Correct: the appeals court didn’t rule on the constitutionality of the law, it ruled on whether the police officers could be sued. In particular, it (correctly) ruled that the police officers couldn’t be sued for arresting someone for breaking a law that (at the time) was valid.
A different court may have ruled on the constitutionality of the law after the arrest, which is irrelevant to the arrest. And whether that statement is even factually true is something you need to verify from an independent source that actually engages in journalism rather than this propagandistic drivel.
The issue is not whether the law was valid--the issue is whether the activity was (a) protected by 1A and (b) and obviously so such that any reasonable officer should know that it was protected activity.
Well, the court obviously disagrees with you. So do I. So do many other people here. Your position isn't just logically wrong, it is risible.
Your position is (1) that ignorance of the law _is_ an excuse only if you are paid to enforce the law, and (2) that someone paid to enforce the law doesn't have to understand the basic laws of the land. Which is more risible?
“After a Texas judge blocked Villarreal’s prosecution, deeming the statute unconstitutionally vague,”
Glad to hear it. That happened after the arrest. It doesn't change my point.
Did you even fucking read it?
No, I didn't, past the first few sentences. That's because the first few sentences already shows that the article was manipulation and propaganda, not news and reporting.
Try reading the opinions. I hear you on the slanted write-ups, but this woman, literally, was prosecuted for asking a question.
but this woman, literally, was prosecuted for asking a question
That has nothing to do with whether the police can be sued for wrongful arrest. Police can only go by the laws as they are on the books at the time of the arrest.
Um, that's not the law. If activity is obviously 1A protected, then no, they cannot arrest you. Well, actually they can--it's just that they should be answerable in damages.
No, it’s not the law. QI doesn’t escape the no-brainer test of ( safeguarding) established constitutional rights.
These cops didn’t need to do any homework or read up on The Pentagon Papers. They didn’t even need to watch Law and Order reruns.
They just had to lose the stupid once their coffee break ended.
Well, we note that you're the kind of person who thinks that a police officer's legal opinions should trump the legal system and the legislature.
What do we call people like you? Cop suckers?
Wouldn't a professional or freelance reporter expecting to get paid for publication of a story containing the information they're requesting qualify as "intent to obtian a benefit"?
Or even an independent blogger with a monetized channel on Substack/Rumble/Youtube/X (Twitter)?
Or simply someone compiling an article "on spec" with the objective of getting paid or hired by a newspaper/magazine/Radio/TV Outlet?
In this case, the prosecution claimed that just hoping to receive increased traffic on Facebook met the criteria. At that point, what doesn't qualify?
Lots of things.
You might get private information about a suicide victim to verify that he is your relative, or because you administer the estate, or because you are doing a scientific study on suicide,etc.
You can't obtain it to publish it or for marketing purposes etc.
Please refer to comments under the other article claiming that a QI case is really the destruction of the world.
Heigh ho, heigh ho, to SCOTUS we will go.
Let's hope SCOTUS does. If it does, maybe the Fifth Circuit gets Roberts' vote.
My $0.10 (fucking inflation):
1. Everyone is a little “j” journalist and we all enjoy freedom of the press, be that a printing press or a Facebook post.
2. “…a person who "solicits or receives" information that "has not been made public" from a government official "with intent to obtain a benefit" commits a third-degree felony, punishable by two to 10 years in prison.” Is so wildly unconstitutional that it never should have been written in the first place.
3. There’s a fundamental difference between what you did, Jake, and what Villarreal did. Namely you were seeking information on victims of state abuse, and she was getting personal information about a suicide.
4. I’m really not okay with the government deciding what information should be public and what shouldn’t, especially if it involves agents of the state. Though I can at least acknowledge that there would be myriad unintended consequences of making all information public.
2. “…a person who “solicits or receives” information that “has not been made public” from a government official “with intent to obtain a benefit” commits a third-degree felony, punishable by two to 10 years in prison.” Is so wildly unconstitutional that it never should have been written in the first place.
Government collects private data on citizens often under threat of criminal penalties. Sometimes it shares that private information with other private parties. It is perfectly reasonable to impose criminal penalties on improper use of that information and there are many such laws already, valid and constitutional.
The problem with this law is simply that it is too vague.
Wrong again. While there may be some information that may be protected in such a manner (although Trump's tax returns were not), this information isn't that. Sorry. Try again. And what you're talking about would be a narrow exception to the general rule that anyone can ask the government questions without being arrested.
Well, youre entitled to your opinion. The court disagrees with you. It didn't say that this kind of information can't be protected, or that this law was "wildly unconstitutional", it merely said that it was vague. Anything beyond that is a figment of your imagination.
Dude, do you have a law degree? We don't have generalized prosecutions of newspaper reporters (who get inside info all day every day).
If you read the dissenting opinions, you'd note the very obvious proposition that the majority analyzed the issue by taking into account the government's power to protect information. But the government's power to protect does not include telling people (a) not to ask for it (obviously, the government can ban bribing government officials) and (b) punishing them if they do. (By the way, your silly point about asks in the form of bribery marks you as an idiotic troll.)
This case will not wear well. The way to see that is that the majority really doesn't address the points made by the dissenting opinions.
It's reasonable to have criminal penalties for improper disclosure of "private" data by those who are officially "in the loop". Penalties on those who "solicit or receive" such information criminalize the legitimate work of journalists (professional or otherwise), especially without any requirement that the person being punished was aware that the information they asked for (or were given) makes a felony of an act which is expressly protected by 1A.
Worse yet, a sufficiently broad interpretation of this law would allow a Sheriff to give "non-public" information unsolicited to a professional reporter, then arrest them for the felony of having "received" it, since their employment could easily be construed as "expectation of gain" from any information they obtain by almost any means.
Look, this particular law was badly written and the court said so. Good.
But laws of this type can be valid, which is why police were not violating anyone's rights when they actual arrested someone under it while it was still in force. The appeals court found that. And that is also good.
Good god, you are an idiot. If the statute is vague, then her rights were violated. She just doesn't get to sue over it. And no, laws of this type are not constitutional. I can ask for anything I want. What I cannot do is bribe a government official. I cannot threaten one. Impersonate someone who has a right to the information etc. etc.
Is there a reason why this local vlogger is commanding more attention than the journalists who have been jailed for covering J6?
Because, given the stance of Reason regarding THOSe journalists, one would expect Reason to be cheering this authoritarian act.
Ironic...pink haired Democrat arrested in a blue county of Texas by stupid laws put in place by likely stupid Democrat politicians.
Great example of the police state protecting it's own.
The police officer who gave out nonpublic information is the one violating common-sense law while the courts continue to peg the actual problem onto the citizen. What are these big-mouthed officers getting charged with?
Free speech has no place in the Union of Soviet Socialist Slave States of Amerika.
What's wrong with you people?
Haven't you been told enough times the free exchange can only lead to counter-revolutionary activities?
The next thing you, you're going to tell me you have some sort of right to own your gun.
BULLSHIT!