Doctors Detail Dangerous Pregnancy Care in States With Abortion Restrictions
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A new report details how doctors in states with strict abortion laws have been forced to offer lower-quality care, including refusing to provide treatment to pregnant women facing complications until their situations became life-threatening.
In "Care Post-Roe: Documenting cases of poor-quality care since the Dobbs decision," the Texas Policy Evaluation Project (TxPEP) reports preliminary findings from a study that asked doctors to evaluate how their practices have changed since the Supreme Court's June 2022 decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization. Since then, 14 states have either enacted near-total bans on abortion or passed additional restrictions.
"Between September 2022 and March 2023, we received 50 submissions from health care providers describing detailed cases of care that deviated from the usual standard due to new laws restricting abortion," states the report. The submissions were collected as part of the group's Care Post-Roe Study, which allowed health care providers to submit confidential stories that were in some cases followed up on with in-depth interviews.
"The post-Dobbs laws and their interpretations altered the standard of care across [pregnancy] scenarios in ways that contributed to delays, worsened health outcomes, and increased the cost and logistic complexity of care," the report suggests. "In several cases, patients experienced preventable complications, such as severe infection or having the placenta grow deep into the uterine wall and surrounding structures, because clinicians reported their 'hands were tied,' making it impossible for them to provide treatment sooner."
The researchers received multiple reports of cases involving second-trimester rupture of membranes, a condition associated with "a very high neonatal mortality rate," as one 2017 study in the Journal of Perinatal Medicine put it. Managing it "requires balancing the potential neonatal benefits from prolongation of the pregnancy with the risk of intra-amniotic infection and its consequences for the mother and infant." Typically, patients who experience this are offered an abortion; now, patients are being sent home and told to come back when they start going into labor or experience signs of an infection. "In several of the cases, patients developed a severe infection, including cases where the infection required management in the intensive care unit," notes the report.
In a number of cases, patients presenting risky but not-yet-life-threatening symptoms were forced to wait until their conditions worsened before an abortion could be legally performed. For instance, one doctor describes a woman who was 15 to 18 weeks pregnant and experiencing significant bleeding when admitted to the hospital for observation. Doctors couldn't do anything but wait.
"When I objectively look at her case, there is no way that this woman was going to make it to [fetal] viability (6+ [additional] weeks) and [she] was becoming clinically unstable," wrote one doctor. "The paralysis that the overnight team exhibited by not treating this inevitable abortion as such again demonstrated that physicians are perseverating about whether they can legally provide standard-of-care medical treatment."
Another doctor describes a woman going into labor early at around 19–20 weeks: "Anesthesiology colleagues refused to provide an epidural for pain. They believed that providing an epidural could be considered [a crime] under the new law. … I will never forget this case because I overheard the primary provider say to a nurse that so much as offering a helping hand to a patient getting onto the gurney while in the throes of a miscarriage could be construed as 'aiding and abetting an abortion.' Best not to so much as touch the patient who is miscarrying… A gross violation of common sense and the oath I took when I got into this profession to soothe my patients' suffering."
The doctor's interpretation of what counts as "aiding and abetting" seems far-fetched. But the point is that medical providers aren't sure where to draw lines.
In one case, a woman got pregnant despite having an IUD. "In such a situation, the standard of care is to remove the IUD to reduce the risk of infection, miscarriage, and preterm delivery," explains the TxPEP report. But a doctor in a state with an abortion ban was afraid to remove the IUD because doing so could also risk a miscarriage.
Multiple doctors describe having to help patients transfer to out-of-state hospitals for care while those patients are undergoing dangerous complications.
In one case, a patient had an ectopic pregnancy (which is non-viable) implant in a cesarean scar while another fetus implanted normally. A doctor "told her they would not be able to treat her because Twin B [had cardiac activity]. Their 'hands were tied' and there was no way they could treat her. She would have to continue her pregnancy and they would monitor her closely to see if she developed a placenta accreta. She called [our] clinic and asked if she could come back to [state with abortion access] to be seen in the hospital for management. So now we are arranging for her to be treated at the hospital [here]. She will have to drive the many hours back and will likely have to be admitted."
The nature of the TxPEP study is primarily anecdotal—aiming "to describe the range of scenarios that health care providers are facing post-Dobbs"—and it can't estimate the prevalence of such scenarios. "That said, it is important to note that these are not 'one-off' situations, and each category of clinical scenario was described by more than one clinician," states the report.
The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) is currently investigating two hospitals that refused to provide stabilizing treatment to a pregnant woman whose water broke at 18 weeks. HHS Secretary Xavier Becerra says this violates their duties under the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act.
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The American Psychological Association (APA) says "using social media is not inherently beneficial or harmful to young people." The statement comes in a new APA "Health advisory on social media use in adolescence." From the advisory:
Adolescents' lives online both reflect and impact their offline lives. In most cases, the effects of social media are dependent on adolescents' own personal and psychological characteristics and social circumstances—intersecting with the specific content, features, or functions that are afforded within many social media platforms. In other words, the effects of social media likely depend on what teens can do and see online, teens' preexisting strengths or vulnerabilities, and the contexts in which they grow up.
Adolescents' experiences online are affected by both 1) how they shape their own social media experiences (e.g., they choose whom to like and follow); and 2) both visible and unknown features built into social media platforms.
Not all findings apply equally to all youth. Scientific findings offer one piece of information that can be used along with knowledge of specific youths' strengths, weaknesses, and context to make decisions that are tailored for each teen, family, and community.
In other words, there's no one-size-fits-all way to best approach internet and social media use by teens and tweens.
But this contradicts the current narrative from the media and politicians "that social media is dangerous for all kids. Full stop," notes Mike Masnick at Techdirt. And both seem totally resistant to data that counter this narrative.
"We've pointed out repeatedly that the data and research on the issues do not support literally any of the claims that politicians (and the media) are making about the impact of social media on kids," Masnick points out. Reason has published similar pieces. And now we've got influential groups like the APA throwing a little cold water on the panic.
"The APA specifically notes that social media may be particularly helpful to marginalized teenagers or those facing mental health challenges," notes Masnick. "They also suggest that when kids are younger, it's appropriate for parents to help kids with social media, to teach them how to use it appropriately and safely, but as they get older, it's important to let them discover things for themselves."
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The best pregnancy care is an abortion.
/ENB
"We're sorry, we can't murder your child today" should be the headline of this shit.
I love how doctors refusing to do their job due to a hissy fit over a law they don't like is proof that the law is bad.
If you cannot "justify" basic medical care...perhaps find a different line of work.
this is essentially it, the doctors are using their patients as pawns here for political ends at the detriment to the patient. the items listed can be dealt with they are just taking it to it worse case scenario to scare people into 100% abortions on demand at any stage
You’re using “political” as an adjective!!!
https://reason.com/2023/05/16/ron-desantis-confirms-again-that-his-attack-on-disney-was-political-retribution/?comments=true#comment-10065464
Cite? The one you gave is shit.
You've got it backwards. The doctors were minding their own business, practicing their profession, when politicians came along to interfere.
This is largely false. AMA is a political organization. Doctors have always had to follow rules and regulations from cleanliness to health outcomes.
Is there any DNC policy you won't defend as you call yourself a libertarian?
It is one thing to argue for no medical regulations, but you aren't doing that. You're arguing for regulations set to the level of your political choices.
Every single thing a doctor can say or do is fully controlled by the government.
How is this not understood by people?
QUA DOCTOR but not QUA CITIZEN
But then everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked....
Bullshit. Stop lying.
You only get paid for killing the baby not for letting her be born.
It’s the democrat way. With them, everything is a political weapon. This is part of why they have to go.
They will be glad to hear it’s OK with you if they risk their careers and jail time.
By misreading the law?
Are you not aware hospitals have legal departments?
It is not a defence to a crime that your law department gave you advice that was wrong. Mitigation, yes.
IMO hospitals should try to get no-action-letters from state AGs - but I suspect some state AGs will refuse to write NALs as this may circumscribe their ability to politicise a case.
It is a defense in this case as the Hospitals set the standard of care. If a doctor does not follow the hospital standard of care, they are in violation of the Hospital regulations, possibly the law, and also possibly their malpractice insurance.
How do you know so little shrike?
Still not shrike, you cracker cunt. And you're the cretin who knows loittle. You're talking about civil cases, whereas I explicitly referred to criminal. The issue - which you've inadvertently identified but are evidently too stupid to recognise - is that there is now an apparent conflict between criminal law and (civil) standard of care.
You know so little. Hospital lawyers are not only there for civil matters retard. Lol. Instead of repeating DNC propaganda, try learning about topics first.
Good work shrike.
Lies and bullshit. It's wildly unreasonable to expect doctors to risk their livelihood and freedom when some grandstanding prosecutor can second-guess their decisions at any point. Even if they don't ultimately lose their license or go to prison, merely being charged is likely to cost them a lot of time and money, on top of the damage to their reputation. As long as the law remains unsettled and uncertain, doctors are going to err on the side of caution. Considering the potential costs of testing the law, it's not likely to be settled any time soon. I find it very hard to believe that wasn't entirely intentional on the part of the anti-abortion extremists. It was certainly easily predictable. Just look at the effects of the DEA's pain pill crackdown.
Do you think all of the anti-abortion laws are actually decreasing the number of abortions that occur?
Why don't you tell us. If the laws have no effect why are you concerned?
He doesn't care. He's just white knighting for ENB.
Preliminary data says yes.
https://www.kxan.com/news/texas-abortion/number-of-abortions-in-texas-dropped-97-in-month-after-supreme-courts-roe-v-wade-ruling/
“Despite the state’s trigger law banning most abortions not going into effect until Aug. 22, Texas saw an immediate and dramatic decrease in the number of abortions in the state after the Supreme Court ruling.
Just 68 abortions were performed on Texas residents in the state in July 2022, according to the Texas Health and Human Services Commission. That’s down from 2,596 in June, a 97% decrease.”
This is very preliminary. But gives credence that overall abortions are declining due to tighter restrictions.
SOunds like just helping one baby is worth nothing. Am I reading you wrong.
“We’re sorry, butt we can’t save the life of the mother or mother-to-be here, because power-mad, medically ignorant legislator-savages have mandated this. Thus was it written, and thus must it be done!"
Also BURN the witches, the womb-slaves, AND ENB, for reporting the FACTS about the witch-burners and womb-slave burners!
It proves no such thing. How much of that decline was offset by TX residents going out of state for abortions? Given the massive spikes in other states, I suspect the actual drop was one whole hell of a lot less than 97%. But, hey, the anti-abortion extremists get to virtue signal, so mission accomplished.
Another doctor describes a woman going into labor early at around 19–20 weeks: "Anesthesiology colleagues refused to provide an epidural for pain. They believed that providing an epidural could be considered [a crime] under the new law.
How did this case involve murdering a child?
Caw caw!
could be considered [a crime] under the new law
Based on what? Their false interpretation of the law? Again. Hospitals have standards of care and a legal department.
Stop with the idiocy Mike.
That's even assuming they aren't lying their ass off about it and that it even happened, which is about a 10% chance, if that.
Yes, hospitals have legal departments. But when the law in question is deliberately vague and there's no case law clarifying it, those departments are going to be advising doctors to cover their asses by erring on the side of caution. Given the potential costs of testing the law, it's not likely to be clarified any time soon. Doctors are professionals, not saints. It's ludicrous to expect them to risk too much when a grand-standing prosecutor can second guess their decisions and ruin their lives. Even if the doctor ultimately doesn't lose their license or go to prison, it's still going to cost them a whole shitload of time and money and do possibly irreparable harm to their reputation.
How did that case make any sense when the plain language of the law is not that ambiguous?
The "plain language" of the law is ambiguous, almost certainly deliberately. How the law will be applied in practice is even more ambiguous. Given the potential cost of testing the law, it's not likely to get much clearer any time soon. Since the anti-abortion extremists have completely tipped their hand as disingenuous liars, there's no reason to believe a word that comes out of their mouths.
It didn't, since the chances of producing a healthy, viable baby at this point were essentially nil. Unfortunately, that's no guarantee some grandstanding prosecutor wouldn't try to claim it did.
In one case, a woman got pregnant despite having an IUD. "In such a situation, the standard of care is to remove the IUD to reduce the risk of infection, miscarriage, and preterm delivery," explains the TxPEP report. But a doctor in a state with an abortion ban was afraid to remove the IUD because doing so could also risk a miscarriage.
How did this case involve murdering a child?
Caw caw!
Hear me out now:
Ass things “progress” under the rules of the cuntservaturds who will conserve NOTHING other than their own POWER, there will come a day when some slime-sucking greedy bottom-dwelling lawyer (but I repeat myself, and hope NOT to give them too many new ideas!) will figure out that ambulance drivers are “medical providers”. LITERAL ambulance-chasers will then chase ambulances, looking for driving accidents (even causing them?), in hopes that a Sacred Fartilized Egg Smell will be harmed (or just-maybe harmed) in an auto accident! Ka-ching, baby, ka-ching, all the way to the bank!
In no time at all, ambulance owners and drivers (if they value their money and freedom), will be forced to REFUSE service to ALL birth-capable and birthing-aged persons!!! You first heard it from me, and, I will then say, “I told you so”!
That is some specious reasoning.
Why not ask the doctor? They seem like they might be too stupid to practice medicine,
The BRILLIANT Doctor Damned-and-Sick will now see you!
Doctor Damned-and-Sick's prescription? That ye be FORCED to buy Reason Magazines!!!
Hey Damiksec, damiskec, and damikesc, and ALL of your other socks…
How is your totalitarian scheme to FORCE people to buy Reason magazines coming along?
Free speech (freedom from “Cancel Culture”) comes from Facebook, Twitter, Tik-Tok, and Google, right? THAT is why we need to pass laws to severely constrict these DANGEROUS companies (which, ugh!, the BASTARDS, put profits above people!)!!! We must pass new laws to retract “Section 230” and FORCE the evil corporations to provide us all (EXCEPT for my political enemies, of course!) with a “UBIFS”, a Universal Basic Income of Free Speech!
So leftist “false flag” commenters will inundate Reason-dot-com with shitloads of PROTECTED racist comments, and then pissed-off readers and advertisers and buyers (of Reason magazine) will all BOYCOTT Reason! And right-wing idiots like Damikesc will then FORCE people to support Reason, so as to nullify the attempts at boycotts! THAT is your ultimate authoritarian “fix” here!!!
“Now, to “protect” Reason from this meddling here, are we going to REQUIRE readers and advertisers to support Reason, to protect Reason from boycotts?”
Yup. Basically. Sounds rough. (Quote damikesc)
(Etc.)
See https://reason.com/2020/06/24/the-new-censors/
(And Asshole Extraordinaire will NEVER take back its' totalitarian bullshit!!!! 'Cause Asshole Extraordinaire is already PERFECT in every way!!!)
This (above damikesc quote) is a gem of the damnedest dumbness of damikesc! Like MANY “perfect in their own minds” asshole authoritarians around here, he will NEVER take back ANY of the stupidest and most evil things that he has written! I have more of those on file… I deploy them to warn other readers to NOT bother to try and reason with the most utterly unreasonable of the nit-wit twits here!
Unless you are an OB/GYN or a malpractice attorney, I see no reason to give any weight to your opinion that the medical professionals here are being “dumb”.
It says right in the quoted text what the doctor’s reasoning was.
Since you’re not a doctor of any kind, I seen no reason to listen to a goddamn thing you have to say on the subject.
Now fuck the fuck off.
Since you’re not a doctor of any kind, I seen no reason to listen to a goddamn thing you have to say on the subject.
Now fuck the fuck off. (Ass well ass the horseshit that you ate, and rode in on, ass well!)
Given your near-constant demonstrations of ignorance, I have no idea why anyone would give the slightest credence to anything you say. Mike, OTOH, seems to have some actual libertarian principles.
So, go back to chugging that toxic waste, and feel free to wash it down with a big, steaming mug of STFU.
WE ARE THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF
PRO-LIFE OBSTETRICIANS AND GYNECOLOGISTS
BOARD CERTIFIED. PROFESSIONAL.
MEDICAL EXPERTS IN THE PRO-LIFE MOVEMENT SINCE 1973
No, best pregnancy care is to let doctors treat their patients as necessary, not with the state looking over their shoulder.
Funny how this sentiment wasn't acceptable during the scamdemic.
Or the fact that all medical care has been regulated for a century.
Yeah, but Missionary4ever has a poorly constructed but hackneyed narrative to defend.
Or the fact that even if it weren't regulated for most of the last century, access and insurance coverage weren't as thoroughly mandated at the federal level so nobody gave a shit... until recently.
And some, I'd say many, of those regulations are bad. This is definitely one of them. A long history of abuse doesn't justify further abuse.
To state the obvious for the umpteenth time: pregnancy doesn't spread contagiously through respiration.
Is this you admitting you think government has full control of any type of respiration? Quite a bit of power you're handing over.
This was my observation as well. “Greater Good” collectivist mentality. Except they decide what the definition of greater good is. And it changes weekly.
You comment put forth an argument that was not made in good faith. Not even asking you to “steel man” possible opposing arguments here, just asking that you not be disingenuous about a difference in the two scenarios that you are well aware of.
You defended covid authoritarianism on the basis that diseases spread moron. What is your limiting factor here?
Your hypocrisy is running at maximum RPMs.
Seems to me you're the one making excuses for state power here.
Pregnancy is almost always the result of a conscious choice made by people who know exactly what unprotected sex can do.
She knew she was a witch!!! /s 🙂
She deserved to end up a State-Owned incubator! /s
Yes Pastor Dan... May I have another? /s
Do you always repair to what is not being discussed.
If I bring up witches will you actually address prgnancy 🙂
Really, when did the state tell doctors how to treat patients during the pandemic? Your response id nonsense.
Yep, one violation justifies all subsequent violations. Good thing I put on my hip waders before I wandered into this fever swamp. It's just as deep as I expected.
You think doctors have EVER been able to do that?
Ask how easy the FDA is on, say, prescriptions.
Are you arguing it is a good thing that the FDA does this or a bad thing?
He is arguing it already happens retard. Again, nowhere in this thread are you arguing for zero regulations. You are arguing for regulations to be set to your political outlook.
No, best pregnancy care is to let doctors treat their patients as necessary, not with the state looking over their shoulder.
Now do literally every other thing a doctor can do or say. hint: it's al fully controlled with the state looking over their shoulder.
Be consistent.
In no other case does the State (in stupid-and-evil-voters-populated districts) favor deliberately endangering the life of the mother, by withholding needed medical care.
That's pretty simple! Even a simpleton can understand that, unless they are also blinded by tribal hatreds!
Projection 101 -- Republican voters supported Roe v Wade.
Republicans WROTE Roe v Wade.
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." The idea that a history of excessive interference somehow justifies even more interference can only be described as bizarre, at least for anyone with any claim to being a libertarian.
Like all real libritarians ENB thinks the federal gov should make rules for everything and states should fall in line
If states want to burn witches... Or womb-slaves for that matter... They should be allowed to! It is their RIGHT to BURN 'em, dammit!
And here Sqrlsy argues for centralism and against federalism because he's libertarian like that.
This can go with his other arguments that censorship demands are the governments 1A protected speech, vaccination should be mandatory, minors can consent to sex, and that imprisoning dissidents without trial is okay if the government thinks it's important.
Hey Necrophilia-Mad Mother, WHY do you keep on saying that the RIGHT thing to do, is to torture all of the innocent new-born Christian babies to DEATH, and then DRINK THEIR BLOOD?!?!?
(Wow, now you MUST acknowledge my mental and moral superiority, since I burnt down yer strawman GOOD AND HARD!!!!)
Except in your case you actually said everything I've accused you of.
Just the same ass Perfect You keeps right on saying that the RIGHT thing to do, is to torture all of the innocent new-born Christian babies to DEATH, and then DRINK THEIR BLOOD!!!
Little Cindy Lou Who says to Perfect You...
"Why, Satan, WHY?!?!?"
Just let me add sarcasm to the already long list of things you don't understand. Goofy and occasionally annoying as they can be, SQRLSY has a far better grasp of actual libertarian principles than you've ever demonstrated.
Like all real libritarians ENB thinks the federal gov should make rules for everything and states should fall in line
Can you point me to where she says this?
Her attacks on Dobbs on Twitter and in various articles?
Every article she wrote on Dobbs.
She is directly arguing against State regulation in favor of national rules.
I get that. I do the same for the 2nd and 4th Amendment rights. Rights can be guaranteed nationally consistent with libertarianism. I thought maybe there was more to the claim.
I think Dobbs was decided correctly and abortion is not a constitutional right, but I don't immediately consider someone pro-abortion to be an anti-federalist authoritarian for wanting/thinking that it is a constitutional right.
And exactly how does the 4th and 13th amendment support FORCED reproduction?
Federalism is a good thing in many ways, but if state-level regulation is unreasonably restricting freedom while national rules stand to expand it, all I can say is fuck the states. Repression by people a little closer to you is still repression.
Very sloppy 'thinking' and rabid abuse of the meaning of words
Several gross illogical aspects
1) Since if someone said this who disagreed with you , you would only be saying , whatever I want is what must be
2) Repression is hardly unreasonable if it is rooted in the Constitution.
3) Repression by you is even closer so you are the worst of all by your own 'thinking"
Funny how ENB is for total government control unless we’re talking about whoring, baby killing, or illegals. And maybe pedophiles. Has she gone pro Pedo yet?
The US Constitution is SUPPOSE to make rules for everything.
That's the VERY definition of the USA.
Stop trying the spin the Constitution into dismissive legislation.
No, it is not supposed to make rules for everything. It is not a perfect union but a 'more perfect union' you are pure Hillary Clinton
The chaos at the border that didn't materialize.
The pants shitting on Fox News materialized.
I blame the lazy Mexicans.
Your previous handle was banned from this site for posting links to child pornography.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. Turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
"chaos at the border that didn’t materialize."
Looks like a giant clusterfuck to me. Lying about what's happening won't alter reality, Shrike.
Oh, it is a clusterfuck but it didn't get worse after May 10.
But it turns out migrants wanted to crash the system Donnie-Boy had in place with Title 42.
but it didn’t get worse after May 10.
Yes it did. I know all your blue-bubble sources are ignoring it but it's become a disaster. That's some lazy gaslighting, Pluggo.
Wait, your position is that all those migrants were working together in a giant conspiracy in order to thwart a policy implemented by Trump?
No. I am saying they were coming anyway and Fatass Donnie was no impediment.
...yet the problem is dramatically worse under Biden.
Weird.
What were the border crossing numbers during the Trump presidency versus the Biden presidency?
Are you actually claiming there is no difference?
The only chaos at the border was that deliberately created by the Trump administration deliberately throwing sand into the gears of our already dysfunctional immigration system. Well, that and the Biden administration doing an absolutely shit job of cleaning up the mess they inherited.
You find it a winning argument that the situation at the border is terrible rather than catastrophic?
Since the "open borders" goobers have zero interest in arguing in good faith, any argument with them is a win by DQ.
Agreed, that is a most stupid statement.
Between 2019 and 2023, the % of Republicans who said parents should be able to put their kids in public school without the MMR vaccine (even if it creates health risks for others), more than doubled, from 20% to 42%.
I wonder what caused that.
When public health officials set fire to their credibility, problems tend to arise.
How is the passive phasing "problems tend to arise" any different from "the officer's gun discharged"?
The parents have agency. They are the ones deciding not to have their kids vaccinated for MMR.
They’re not even doing that.
It was a poll about the support for REQUIRING it.
To attend Public School.
Gee, I wonder what could have happened in the last couple years to sway opinions on forced vaccinations?
It has certainly made me re-evaluate views on vaccine requirements. If the power is likely to be abused like with covid vaccines, then perhaps we don't want anyone having the power to require vaccines.
Same here. In the past I naively assumed that "health authorities" had done their due diligence and would subscribe to that "first do no harm" thing. I fucked up. I trusted them. Never again.
Yes, everyone is responsible for their own decisions and choices. That doesn't mean that people's choices aren't broadly predictable in some cases. They aren't basing their decisions not to vaccinate (even if they aren't being completely rational) based on nothing.
Public health officials did lie about the covid vaccines repeatedly. And tried to force them on as many people as possible. It's not unreasonable that many people thought "what else have they been lying to us about?".
No one was made to take any vaccines.
Yes they were. Many hospital and police fired for not getting them.
Oh probably about fertilized eggs being babies?
You're right that their decisions aren't based on "nothing". They're based on ignorance and lies.
How is the passive phasing “problems tend to arise” any different from When public health officials set fire to their credibility, problems tend to arise.”?
Because it's NOT 'passive phrasing'? Could that be it?
The action is--
When public health officials set fire to their credibility,
People ACTIVELY destroying their credibility.
And BECAUSE they DID that, "problems tend to arise".
What makes “the officer’s gun discharged” passive is that the action is being ignored. Guns don't simply 'discharge'. Someone pulls the trigger. But that is being left out.
See? Now, if you can hold on to that, you'll be just a bit smarter.
Oh, baloney. Societal problems don't just "arise" on their own without the agency of people.
I love that you ignored the meat of Azathoth’s post as he explained in plain English that the health officials torched their own credibility. Kinda like the Democrat governors shotgunned their economies in the the throat.
Trump and DeSantis must have took the day off for this to be the top republicans pounce news.
Day ain't over yet. Someone from Reason will post a hit piece on one, the other, or both before the day's out.
Sullum already did.
Example #1 Bajillion and 2 that Democrats are uniquely Authoritarian.
Since a lot of the lefty people are out there declaring that this makes Republicans anti science, let’s be clear: Republicans vaccinating their children (79%) are within the margin of error with Democrats (81%). Republicans are getting the vaccines. They object to FORCING others to get the vaccine as a condition of school.
Also note that people who have NOT vaccinated are more likely to be following vaccines closely online. So maybe they have the science wrong, but the idea that they are Anti-Science does not seem correct.
https://www.pewresearch.org/science/2023/05/16/what-americans-think-about-the-mmr-vaccines/
And this objection wouldn't have even happened if the Dems and center-right Branch Covidians hadn't tried their damnedest to make Fauci Ouchie shots a mandatory requirement in the interests of social control, even after the shot's effectiveness was shown to deteriorate within a matter of weeks, and trying to keep up with the rapidly changing variations was an exercise is futility.
Very specifically, it was a result of Biden trying to distract from the Afghanistan debacle. If people really are fretting about a reduction in vaccine usage (again, the poll does not indicate people aren't vaccinating), then they should be absolutely sick that Biden turned this into a political culture war issue.
The conflation of willing to do something with being forced to do something is so tired and disingenuous anymore. Esepcially coming from people who apoplectically claim women have the right to control and make decisions for their own bodies.
Hasn't the whole anti-vax movement always been pretty "bipartisan"? Pre-covid I would have said they were more left than right overall, though I could be wrong.
It's usually been a combination of ultra-religious right-wingers who think that vaccines are the mark of the beast, and uber-crunchy leftists that think anything which has any sort of synthetic chemicals in it is "bad for you, maaaaaaaaaaaan."
Eh, back in the day it was a crunchy, hippie left thing. And by "back in the day" I mean pre 2019.
Notice how Pew skews the data to fit a particular narrative, doing a four-year gap between 2019 and 2023. A more honest reading would have shown the 2020-2022 numbers as well, and I'd be willing to wager that support for MMR mandates started tumbling right around the time the globohomo left was going full-bore on promoting vaccine passes and demanding that it was everyone's DUTY to get the clot shot.
Also, Perry indulges in some sophistry by declaring the following:
"Also, please note this is not entirely due to COVID vaccine response. We used data from **2019** and found conservative ideological identity, Republican party ID, & Christian nationalism all predicted negative attitudes toward vaccines in general."
Democrats' numbers in October 2019: 86%
Republicans' numbers in October 2019: 79%
This is not a statistically significant difference, no matter what anyone claims, but Perry has to run his shitlib narrative about "Christian Nationalism" since that's his side's latest boogeyman.
Stupidity and increased willingness to listen to lies caused that.
Foreign election watchers claim vote fraud in Turkey based on a biased media coverage of the candidates and elections and back room vote counting. Thank God this didn't happen here in 2020 with our media and election observers being kicked out of election areas....
https://twitter.com/GuillaumPerrier/status/1658513146112245766
Did they get tired, send the poll watchers and media home, then decide they weren’t actually tired after all? Because I'm told that's perfectly normal.
I wonder how many pipes mysteriously busted at the counting sites?
If you think that's sketchy you're an insurrectionist.
The observers were kicked out because they already had the maximum number allowed. Claiming this is anything sketchy is like claiming a basketball referee is biased because he won't let you put seven players on the court. But, hey, feel free to keep on peddling lies and bullshit.
If your kid is vaccinated for mmr, why do you need someone else’s kid to be vaccinated?
I'm sympathetic because there's a small percentage of kids who are immune compromised and can't get an MMR vaccine. Beyond that, parents really should want their kids to have an MMR vaccine, so the rising vaccine hesitancy for what is an actual, effective vaccine is a bad thing.
The problem is that the government and the pharmaceutical industry created this lack of mistrust through repeated lies about the COVID vaccine.
The problem is that the government and the pharmaceutical industry created this lack of mistrust through repeated lies about the COVID vaccine.
Nah, this is Trump's fault. Somehow.
I just noticed I wrote "lack of mistrust," and therefore negated it. I get an F in internet for the day.
It can't be Fatass Donnie's fault. He said the virus was a hoax and would be gone by Easter 2020.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
It can't be your Democratic allies' fault. They said restricting travel from China during the early weeks of the pandemic was racist.
Well, it was certainly pointless. It was a case of closing the barn door after the horse had not only escaped, but was halfway to the next county.
Did he say it was hoax or try to push horsepaste? Because you don't need to mainline bleach for a hoax. Make up your your mind, asshat.
It can’t be his fault because he was pimping the vaccine and getting booed by his supporters for it you retarded asshole.
I can imagine your outage given Biden's belief that 250,000 dead under Trump's watch was disqualfiying while he tripled it.
It's funny how much you behave like the person who you constantly condemn in these comments.
That's not what he said and you fucking know it! He said that blaming him for the virus was the latest hoax. Trump warned about the virus in his last SOTU speech and cut off travel from China.
The left instead called him racist, downplayed covid as less dangerous than the flu, and promoted hug a Chinaman.
Yes. Then New York had an outbreak and a massive exodus, instead of a contain, which allowed the virus to spread exponentially.
You should try being dead. It’s a big step up from being a live pedophile.
The vaccine was one of the few things Trump got right. Then his supporters proved they're even dumber than he is by crucifying him for it.
Mistrust, or lack of trust. Not lack of mistrust.
There’s a lack of mistrust amongst the Faucciites
haha! ^this
Slight, orthogonal disagreement on all of the above. The COVID vaccine is hardly the only issue of mistrust *in this country*. As, were measles to appear... again... it would be like the 4th time in the last 30 yrs. that we've eradicated it... again... *in this country*.
So everybody else has to get the shot because you have special needs?
My kid is allergic to peanuts, so we must ban stores from selling peanuts.
My kid .... so y'all must ....
Let's just collective everything, ok, that way we can stop worrying about individual responsibility.
Not just "my kid." Vaccines are not 100% effective. The more people that are vaccinated the less everyone's chance of getting infected.
Whether or not this justifies a mandate is debatable. This vaccine has saved many lives. Most parents would probably vaccinate their children without the mandate.
Seen by the low rates of covid vaccines in children.
For long studied vaccines, yes. Parents likely get those. The risk are understood. They have been peer reviewed and analyzed for decades.
For instances like Covid where the liability is waived, FDA data hidden for 50 years, and government lied about the results... no.
Seen by the low rates of covid vaccines in children.
Right. The COVID vaccine is useless at best in children so parents are not getting their kids vaccinated.
From the liberty point of view, you fail. You are a collectivist.
From the practical point of view, you fail. Enough people do get vaccinated to stop the spread and protect the vax-deniers and those who cannot be vaccinated. The reason this doesn't work now is because the government and its supporters lied about the COVID vaccines and then pushed mandatory vaccinations to cover up their lies and made even more people wary of the emergency vaccines.
In other words, you had what you wanted, but you didn't get it to the extreme you wanted, so you shit in your own food and now want everybody else to eat it for you.
Fuck off, slaver.
Take a pill, Nostradamus. You read my mind wrong.
I didn't say I supported any mandate.
Enough people do get vaccinated to stop the spread and protect the vax-deniers and those who cannot be vaccinated
Under the regime with the mandate. Without it we don't know, hence it's debatable.
you had what you wanted, but you didn’t get it to the extreme you wanted, so you shit in your own food and now want everybody else to eat it for you.
Please read my post again. What did I say I wanted?
It's actually funny because I ran down this with my in-laws when they moved to FL several years ago. There was an outbreak in a couple of places, Disney, NYC, Chicago... within a couple years. My MIL laid into how it was all the crazy anti-Vaxxers. I pointed out that the one in Chicago was traced back to a Supermercado, not exactly a place Jenny McCarthy would be rallying supporters to her cause. I then asked when they had their last booster. She didn't know. I pointed out that immunity wanes over time and is generally considered exhausted within 1-2 decades assuming relatively normal health (my FIL had been treated for cancer and lupus and she considers him immune compromised, even if his immune system works fine) and that, from the virus' perspective, it doesn't really matter if you're a kid with religious parents, a kid with crazy anti-vaxx parents, Mexican, or simply old and aged out of the immunity from your last booster.
Right.
If leaders and scientists had gone out there and thanked people for their service- shooting chemicals into their body to protect their fellow man- it would be one thing.
Instead the Democrat party has used vaccines as a culture-war wedge issue. Biden claimed he would never mandate vaccines until suddenly he was being embarrassed in Afghanistan. Within a week he was out there demanding that Americans turn against each other and vilify the Unclean. They insisted not just that you were doing good by vaccinating, but that declining to "do good" is actually doing EVIL.
When I was a kid, we were taught to have sympathy for the Boy in the Plastic Bubble. Today, the infirm are an entitled class and all normals must be subjugated to protect those who have special needs. No wonder so many parents rush to ascribe defects to their children.
It's not only the immune-compromised who can't be vaccinated, or who can no longer fight off infections whether or not they were immune. Vaccines don't take on a few percent of the vaccinated, because a standard dose is given without accounting for - or even knowing - individual variations. The vaccine developers try to set the dose low enough as to cause very few or no over-reactions from the especially sensitive, and this will leave the least sensitive without much effect from the vaccine.
In general, we don't even test for whether a vaccine took, and so we don't know which kids are still vulnerable. (I recall my elementary school doing a smallpox vaccination campaign in the early 1960, which did include a followup by someone coming around and looking at the vaccination site - but that's the only time I saw any kind of followup.) If an unvaccinated child goes to school in the early stages of measles and sheds measles virus on a hundred children vaccinated with the MMR vaccine, chances are that at least one of those kids will catch measles.
Of course, the same thing happens if one of those kids that did have the vaccine but unknown to his doctors and parents didn't become immune catches measles. But that's pretty rare. A few percent of parents refusing to vaccinate their kids will multiply the pool of vulnerable kids by several times, and greatly increase the likelihood of getting a cluster of measles cases.
On the other hand, measles just isn't that dangerous to modern populations. In most parts of the world, those that were genetically highly vulnerable to measles died centuries ago. Out of thousands of kids in my home town before measles vaccines, there were no kids dying or becoming disabled from measles. (On the third hand, this was an extremely white town, and western Europeans may have a millennia more of evolving to survive measles than the rest of the world.)
It wasn't the government or industry lying about the vaccine.
The chaos at the border that didn't materialize.
At least he was right about that winter of death for the unvaccinated.
The chaos at the border that didn’t materialize.
The chaos is now in New York.
For regular people the migrants are overrunning the shelters so much their schools are being used for additional migrant housing.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/new-york-city-turns-school-gyms-house-new-99374139#:~:text=New%20York%20--%20New%20York,the%20city%27s%20homeless%20shelter%20system.
This is how you lose deep blue areas from a previously firm grasp.
Well chaos materialized but it wasn't as bad as expected and it was a good thing.
Buttplug was just test driving this narrative down below.
If there was chaos, it was due to a failure to prepare for something they knew was coming. Well, that and the chaos deliberately created by the Trump administration and allowed to continue to fester by the Biden administration.
And Chicago.
https://twitter.com/CPD1617Scanner/status/1651315062731161600
These are the conditions that migrants are living under.
This is inhumane and a testament how Chicago politicians talk a big game but rarely act.
The entire act is a huge virtue signal.
Videos show different. 83k in one week. Another fiery but mostly peaceful moment from ENB.
Those saintly Marth Vinyard people who donated floors, blankets, and pizza to illegal migrants were refunded for their generosity from a federal program that doesn't cover illegal immigrants.
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/1????BREAKING – It appears the federal govt used the Emergency Food and Shelter Program (EFSP) to reimburse “Harbor Homes of Martha’s Vineyard,” for expenses incurred from housing the illegal aliens sent to Martha’s Vineyard in September 2022 in a FOIA production we obtained.
https://twitter.com/America1stLegal/status/1658180764876300311
Those poor Martha’s Vineyard residents need all the help they can get.
Have you seen how expensive pizza is in Martha's Vineyard?
Gourmet pineapples?
Pendleton blankets.
Matching the 401k contributions of American TransRacialGenderStudies Majors who are busy catering gay weddings as their side gig.
Caviar pizza?
Jonah Goldberg goes with the tried and true leftist method of saying no calling him out for being wrong about Trump and comey. Doing so is arguing in bad faith. Just refuse he were wrong, facts changed, youre wrong from showing he was wrong.
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A whole bunch of tiresome pests are going nuts over a clip of me in -- 2017! -- saying I'll take Comey's word over Trump's 10 time out of 10. I agree that Comey looks much worse now then back then. But I think I was justified in saying it then, given what was known, and given that the issue was Trump's credibility versus Comey's.
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And, frankly, Trump is still more dishonest than Comey -- even if you consider Comey a deeply dishonest person, which I pretty much do.
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I'm just putting this here because I think all of the dunking is stupid, in bad faith, not worth individual responses -- and works on the mulish assumption that if you can prove Comey was a bad guy that makes Trump a good guy. He's not. There is still no definition of good character he can clear the hurdle on.
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Trump invited virtually all of his legal, political and financial problems on himself, including to a large part the FBI collusion probe -- which, by the way, resulted in a lot more criminal convictions than Durham's probe did.
Trump invited virtually all of his legal, political and financial problems
That’s what he gets for upsetting the apple cart. Imagine the gall running for president. Only the anointed should be in office, not mere citizens. We have a caste system to maintain in this country.
No, that's what he gets for being an invincibly ignorant, mean-spirited blowhard with a reckless disregard for the truth. He's spent his entire adult life moving on from big, beautiful deal to the next only to leave the actual work to someone else. His term as President was mostly just more of the same. The only difference is that the private sector usually managed to find someone competent to clean up after him.
The idea that Trump was somehow going to "drain the swamp" was always ridiculous. First, he knew how to work governments from the outside but had no idea of how government works from the inside. This guaranteed he would fail. Second, Trump has spent his life neck-deep in the swamp. He is the swamp. Expecting him to clean it up makes about as much sense as trying to put out a fire by smothering it with gasoline.
Sounds like Jonah Goldberg still can't buy pants.
Is he secretly Brainiac?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsbW4FkHDzI
Goldberg has a serious case of TDS and went full retard.
I just don't know why these people can't admit they were lied to and wrong. They keep defending their actions.
It's a sign of weakness to them to admit such. They can't be wrong, and can't admit to being bamboozled. If they admit as such, their facade crumbles.
They are too emotionally invested. Admitting they were wrong would require humility and self awareness.
With that level of skill at projection, you should be working at the multiplex.
Leftist brain.
Even when they are wrong, and know they are wrong, they cannot admit error, ever.
See Covid Amnesty.
Even when they are wrong, and know they are wrong, they cannot admit error, ever.
Wow, that kind of thing never happens with rightist brains.
Ever looked in a mirror, Mike? I'm guessing that's a "no" as you seem to lack any self awareness and humility, thus proving Uilleam's point.
The problem is that Goldberg thinks he is making a point, when he is actually showing what broke him. It is true that Trump is a dishonest blowhard (though I would more describe him as showing a negligent disregard for the truth). You really should take most of what he says with a grain of salt.
But that doesn't change the fact that Comey was a government agent lying to us about what was going on behind the scenes. And that is worse. And Goldberg should be furious about that.
Goldberg's mistake was thinking that he needed to choose who to believe- Trump vs Comey. You can disbelieve both. You can say, "You know, I don't believe trump when he says X, but what Comey is saying strains all credibility."
And YES. Everything that Comey was saying was bullshit. I campaigned on this site against Trump. And when I heard this Russian Interference bullshit, it immediately set off my bullshit detectors. It was painfully obvious, from her record as SecState, that Clinton and Russia were very friendly. Russian oligarchs had given nearly $150 Million to the Clinton Foundation. She was regularly pushing the "Leave Russia alone, warmongers!" message because it was a plank of Romney's in 2012.
And the fact that Goldberg thinks this is a competition between Trump and Comey and not a competition between every american (including him) an Comey is a huge blind side on his part. And I say that as someone who used to enjoy interacting with him on NRO.
Goldberg's always been of the stripe that you typically see in cosmo libertarians and the neocon right--sure, it's okay to say you disagree with the left, but don't ever actually push back against them in any substantive way, and then when the left ends up taking over whatever arena they were targeting and start getting resistance to their agenda, whine that the right is overreacting and really just needs to leave the left alone. They have no understanding of the laws of thermodynamics, and thus never make the connection that the earlier you engage the action, the less of an overreaction you'll have later on.
But these people, at heart, are extremely risk-averse and like Benjamin the Donkey, recognize the problem but don't want to actually rock the boat for fear of having their sinecures taken away.
For a group of people that loved to promote the idea of "small government" in the 80s-00s, the knee-jerk defense of their beloved surveillance state and COVID vaccine mandates shows that it was mostly just kayfabe.
Clinton and Russia were very friendly? Clinton's attempted "reset" with Russia was an abysmal failure. Much like many of her fellow Americans, the Russian government had essentially zero fondness or respect for her.
With that level of skill at projection, you should be working at the multiplex.
Goldberg was right about Trump from the beginning. Anyone still supporting Trump after his near-perfect record of failure is the one suffering from derangement.
I’m just putting this here because I think all of the dunking is stupid, in bad faith, not worth individual responses — and works on the mulish assumption that if you can prove Comey was a bad guy that makes Trump a good guy.
Goldberg always indulges in these false dilemmas and strawmen. Literally no one is, or was, saying that if you can prove Comey was bad gut that therefore it makes Trump a good guy. What has been argued and shown is that Comey and his colleagues indulged, in conjunction with members of Hillary Clinton's circle, with deliberately concocting a fake narrative on Russian collusion out of thin air, and then subsequently coordinated with the intelligence agencies to concoct a false narrative about Hunter Biden's laptop as Russian disinformation. Both of these were efforts by federal government employees, both past and present, were blatantly deceitful efforts in aid of delegitimizing Trump's presidency.
Goldberg is simply pissed that he's getting called out for the very manichean worldview that he accuses his right-wing critics of having. Like a lot of the 2000s-era center right, he's a colossal hypocrite who can't take the fact that he was completely wrong and let his TDS get the best of him.
Left-leaners as a group display a shocking lack of creativity. That is why they are always eventually caught indulging in any behavior that they bleat about constantly in their opponents. They project their own behavior onto others. The more they project about a behavior, the more likely they are to be guilty of it.
At least Q-Anon comes up with some interesting, if highly implausible, theories.
Shorter Jonah: Did you SEE the dress she was wearing?
Yes, Jonah Goldberg, one of the few remaining voices of reason on the right must be a leftist. I'm kinda curious about what goes on in your head, but I fear truly comprehending your "thought" process might drive me to madness.
This is astonishing.
Not really astonishing, more predictable. Using psyops to get people to conform to a new drug regime was bound to have blowbacks on older safer drugs once people stopped believing The Science.
This is the fruit of Faucism.
“psyops”, really?
The floors of the commentariat are slick with hyperbole.
Republican anti-vaxxers weren't true believers in vaccines who had their faith shattered because they believed so hard in Fauci and then found out he didn't know what he was talking about. Republican anti-vaxxers decided to place partisanship above any consideration of science early on, and they never cared what Fauci had to say about it.
Talk to us again about how J6 was an attempted coup.
J6 was more of a temper tantrum than a serious coup, but that doesn't change the fact that people did try and interfere with the lawful transfer of power. I cannot for the life of me comprehend your determination to defend and sanctify these mostly peaceful rioters.
I wasn't aware RFK, Jr. or Jenny McCarthy were Republicans.
No political affiliation has a monopoly on stupidity.
Republican anti-vaxxers decided to place partisanship above any consideration of science early on, and they never cared what Fauci had to say about it.
You are a piece of shit liar spinning a fucking TDS fever dream. Fauci conspired with Cuomo and other Democrats to concentrate COVID among the most vulnerable population. Then they used the fear that generated to exercise power. You are right that it doesn't matter what Fauci said. It matters what Fauci did. He engaged in Lysenkoism. He promoted lockdowns and masks that did nothing to protect the vulnerable and then doubled down when the vaccines became available.
You deserve to die gasping for air. 15 or 20 masks should do it.
Literally everything they said about the wuhan virus and the vaccine turned out to be at best, badly mistaken and likely an intentional lie.
I am neither Republican or anti-vax. I'm a libertarian, who didn't want to take one new drug especially under threat by my government.
You on the other hand are an insufferable arogant imbecile. It was very much reported that Canada was using psyops in their response to covid. And I saw with my owns eyes, the same propaganda here in the states.
What threats were you personally subjected to?
And I didn't accuse you of being Republican, anti-vax in general, or not being a libertarian. I said you were engaging in hyperbole. You were.
This is Mike trying to distract with the "no one was really forced" argument. He denied he would ever do that, only to engage in it in the same thread. It is quite hilarious how predictable he is.
https://reason.com/2023/04/08/proposition-its-time-for-a-national-divorce/?comments=true#comment-10008299
I was required to to retain my job due to direct mandates issued by Biden regarding government contract recipients.
According to Mike that never happened and isn’t really coercion.
If this was such a fundamental affront to your beliefs, maybe you shouldn't be working for a government contractor.
Mike is one of the worst.
"Republican anti-vaxxers decided to place partisanship above any consideration of science early on, and they never cared what Fauci had to say about it."
Let us note that Mike doesn't read peoples' minds. He doesn't know shit. All he knows is what he made up in his head from his little blue enclave in the Bay Area before fleeing it for whatever flyover country he escaped to.
The people "politicizing" the virus were people like HIM and Biden. Let’s remember that as recently as February 2022, Mike was declaring that “The plan to stop all these variants was to get most people vaccinated.”
https://reason.com/2022/02/02/can-the-medical-innovations-used-to-fight-covid-19-finally-defeat-hiv/?comments=true#comment-9336124
That’s just one of the more recent versions of him declaring that Vaccines could stop the variants. Before that he was insisting it would stop transmission. And before that he was insisting it would stop infection. Time and again, he and his cronies pompously declared vaccines were THE solution to our problems, and that evil partisans were preventing that solution from occurring.
Mike was the one politicizing this. If everybody had been vaccinated, COVID would have still developed variants, and it still would have propagated throughout the country. But MIKE, and his ilk, were out there vilifying people for not vaccinating. They were the culture warriors who were out there insisting that you were morally wrong to not vaccinate, because you were preventing the end of the pandemic. And not only was this the actual partisan hyperbole, but it was ALSO WRONG.
And does he have an ounce of humility? A tiny bit of contrition? Of course not. No, it certainly isn’t MIKE’S fault that people are skeptical of him, and his like after being wrong again and again and again. No, it must be because they are right-wingers. After all, only right-wingers would be skeptical of a person who pompously scolds and bitches at people for inaccurate reasons.
If there was a primary cause of people being skeptical of vaccines, Mike demonstrates it right there. It was the obvious mendacity of Mike and all his like who spouted off shit they didn’t know about, repeated it after it was pretty clear they were wrong, and then boldly moved on to spouting new shit they knew nothing about weeks later.
He is the one who his guilty of partisan hyperbole- for 3 fucking years- and if he had any of the sense of shame he demands from his political opponents, he'd never show himself here again.
He even spent time blaming non vaccinated people for causing the variants even though study after study showed variants arose in the vaccinated population.
Nope. Icky MAGA anti vaxxers.
“Republican anti vaxxers decided to place partisanship above any consideration of science early on….”
Lol. Not quite as early as the prominent D politicians who unanimously voiced distrust in “any vaccine developed under this administration.” That was way back in October 2020 when they thought a successful vax might help orange man.
The contradictions that you people ignore will be your undoing.
I know this is very confusing, but please try to keep up. Dem stupidity does not excuse GOP stupidity, or vice versa.
It is astonishingly good, right? Republicans, despite vaccinating their children in the same numbers as Democrats (+/- 2%) are moderating their views in the direction of liberty and freedom.
Unfortunately, I guess ENB thinks this is a bad thing.
Her body, her choice. My body, medical experts' choice.
I am not convinced MMR shouldn't be required. Personally I've always held the position that if vaccine will protect children than maybe it should be required but I'm a squish on it - going back and forth.
But yes Republicans rethinking their positions on it is healthy overall, along with any and every issue.
The nation eradicated Measles without a need to mandate vaccines.
The fact is, it is immoral to force someone to undergo a medical procedure in order to protect you from a force of nature. I'd also note that it is pretty shitty, if not immoral, to demand (without force) that people perform an act to protect you from nature. It is like getting all pissy because your neighbor won't go fight a brush fire to protect your land. You have no right to expect them to do it, and it is pretty dickish to expect anything more.
Luckily, as I note above, people are generally happy to get a vaccine- just as your neighbor would happily fight that fire because it benefits you both. But that likelihood generally goes down when people feel like they are being berated into making that decision.
Oh yeah I get the argument against mandating it and it is very compelling. If kids are dropping like flies, hell or highwater won't stop parents from acting in their children's best interest.
Just haven't gotten there myself quite yet. I see it more of a local issue that each school district* should make based on the community standards - its my squish way of splitting the baby for now.
*not withstanding my view that all schools should be private and the school itself would be free to make that a contract condition for enrollment.
The nation eradicated Measles without a need to mandate vaccines.
To be fair, a lot of the push for vaccination in those times was due to the very real experiences with those diseases that people had prior to them being available, sometimes with pretty horrific results. Vaccines were, rightly, seen as a miracle medical treatment, and in instances where damage took place, such as in a batch of the polio vaccine, measures were taken to correct it so that more people wouldn't be hurt.
That's not the MO now--today, it's "don't ask questions, just shut up and get jabbed!"
I'm pretty sure the vast majority of anti-vaxxers grew up after vaccines had virtually eradicated the host of diseases that used to routinely cripple and kill children. It's the only remotely rational explanation I can think of for wildly exaggerating the minuscule risks of vaccines and denying the massive benefits. A little quick research reveals exactly the same is true of those spreading bullshit about the covid vaccines. For the vast majority of people, the benefits clearly outweigh the risks.
Insisting that your unvaccinated spawn should be allowed into public schools is much more akin to setting fires, or at best refusing to do anything to prevent them.
This is astonishing. Between 2019 and 2023, the % of Republicans who said parents should be able to put their kids in public school without the MMR vaccine (even if it creates health risks for others), more than doubled, from 20% to 42%.
Funny how you cause second-order issues when you change the definition of "vaccine," and lie to people about a supposed vaccine. It's like they stop trusting other stuff called vaccines because they were lied to about a different "vaccine." It's actually far from astonishing.
Predictable results are astonishing.
OMG, they changed the definition of "aircraft" to include those newfangled helicopters!
Cite?
Mike... what do you think the definition of aircraft is? I already provided it for you once, but you repeat this idiocy a second time?
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I swear you get dumber by the day. You even repeat stupid comments you've already been corrected on. The definition of aircraft never changed. Examples were added, the definition was not changed.
OMG Mike Laursen is running interference for Authoritarians again. It must be a day ending in Y.
he's a fed. i have no doubt
But that’s just a completely disingenuous analogy, and I have no doubt that you realize it but don’t care.
The better analogy is to claim a pizza now qualifies as a hamburger simply because someone put hamburger on it.
“Vaccine” has always meant the prevention of acquiring or transmitting disease to a meaningful degree. It has never meant “therapeutic.” That change of definition happened when the ardent vaccine pushers ran into a problem when their “you’re killing grandma” narrative fell apart when the vaccines were not doing anything to prevent infection or transmission.
It’s fine to claim that the “vaccines” were actually successful therapeutics, but to claim they were vaccines is simply engaging in the redefinition of the words in order to not be wrong. Which, understandably, is a common tactic for you on the left.
And now everyone is surprised when people feel skeptical about vaccination mandates.
Yeah, a vaccine that only greatly reduces suffering and death is clearly a failure. Since they operate by priming the immune system, they're vaccines. Claiming otherwise is disingenuous bullshit.
Did you get beaten up a lot when you were in school? I imagine you getting daily schoolyard beatings for beating an insufferable, disingenuous, obnoxious shitweasel.
I can't help but suspect you didn't get beaten nearly enough. Or maybe you did, and that's why your entire shtick is talking trash online.
On September 7, 2016, the CIA wrote a “referral memo” addressed to FBI director James Comey and to the attention of Deputy Assistant Director Strzok saying as much. The information was considered so important that then-CIA Director James Brennan immediately briefed President Barack Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, Attorney General Loretta Lynch, and Comey about it in the Situation Room. Yet not a single FBI employee working for Strzok who was interviewed by Durham could recall seeing it or doing anything with the information.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/betrayal-fbi-agents-working-on-russia-probe-say-leaders-concealed-intelligence-on-hillarys-role
https://twitter.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1658508911886909441?t=gHs9JO8ORtNWRV1C1jsrcQ&s=19
It is difficult to overstate how much everything since 1945 is shaped by the spectre of the Holocaust.
The period since is the story of the religious underpinning of the West shifting from Christianity to a new foundation built on a single commandment: "never again":
2/25 Take Karl Popper, the intellectual godfather of neoliberalism:
Popper was compelled to write The Open Society and Its Enemies during WW2, motivated by rebuilding Western civilization as an open society to ensure those horrors would not be seen again
[Link]
3/25 George Soros was Popper's student at the London School of Economics, and named his Open Society Institute after Popper's book.
Soros' entire project is devoted to using civil society networks to enshrine pluralism and wither away the intolerant forces of "populism"
4/25 Post-war liberalism moved in the direction Popper desired.
A liberalism based on natural rights shifted to one focused on empiricism, consensus, progressive social engineering, and a distrust of "the strong gods" or any metaphysical input in the political.
5/25 Another influential book in forming the post-war liberal consensus was Friedrich Hayek's The Road to Serfdom.
It was Hayek who got Popper a publisher for his book, seeing him as a useful ally in his own libertarian, anti-ideological approach to politics.
6/25 Hayek was also motivated by identifying the roots of fascism, but rather than attacking the roots of Western philosophy, his focus is on collectivism.
It is the socialists, national or international, with their lie of a "common good" who are responsible for totalitarianism
7/25 The social planners of the post-war world would set about removing once and for all the roots of the closed society which had led to the horrors of the war.
First to go had to be the biological basis for race which was central to Nazism. See thread: [link]
8/25 A related strong God - Nationalism - also had to be dismantled.
Whereas Nationalism had once been seen as a natural phenomenon, and "nation" was identified with a distinct ethnic group or race, academic studies of Nationalism now began to deconstruct it along Marxist lines.
9/25 Many of the most influential theorists of "modernism", which deconstructs Nationalism as a modern kind of false consciousness created by elites, had a deep distrust of Nationalism motivated by the events of the war.
The Israeli historian Azar Gat writes the following: [link]
10/25 But while the vision outlined by Hayek and Popper was more negative and moderate: piecemeal liberal social engineering or a night watchman state, academics from the left stepped in to provide a more radical anti-fascist critique which would shape generations of radicals.
11/25 Most influential in this regard is the Frankfurt School. A school of Jewish social theorists, they fled Hitler's Germany for the United States and set about reworking social theory, motivated by preventing the kind of reactionary totalitarianism they had observed in Europe.
12/25 The theories of the Frankfurt School, subsidised by American oligarchy with grants from the Rockefeller Foundation, would become the basis for the New Left of the 1960s.
Under the direction of Theodor Adorno, they published The Authoritarian Personality.
13/25 This study purported to show that those who believed in traditional values were mentally ill, and this had it's roots in the family, especially belief in parental authority. An open society is not enough, what's required is deconstruction of these roots of authoritarianism.
14/25 The work influenced liberal policymakers bent on directing society away from reactionary attitudes.
The difficulty of this task was seen to reflect the dangerous force of traditional religion and faulty child-rearing. Now the family itself came under attack as a strong god
15/25 But it was the work of another Frankfurt School theorist Herbert Marcuse's which became the ideological basis for 60s counter-culture. The bestseller Eros and Civilization.
16/25 Marcuse argued that traditional societies were built on the repression of healthy human instincts and desires, particularly sexual, leading to alienation and unhappiness.
The answer was a revolutionary freeing up of sexual instinct, "polymorphous perversity".
17/25 During WW2, Marcuse had been employed by the OSS, the precursor to the CIA.
Marcuse drew up a list of 1800 businessmen and industrialists who should be considered key Nazis alongside military leadership.
18/25 Marcuse and his colleagues argued dealing with these men was more important to De-Nazification of Germany than dealing with Prussian Militarism.
This was the basis for Frankfurt School theorising:
19/25 Members of the school all believed that Nazism was one expression of a ‘single paradigm of domination’, which also included Soviet Communism and liberal democracy.
All their major works can be read through this motive of identifying a deeper basis for de-Nazification.
20/25 Most national hate speech laws have their precursors in their countries Holocaust denial laws, which normalised the idea of enshrining "group libel" in law.
This was a significant shift in what was viewed as acceptable political speech.
21/25 Though Britain did not have Holocaust denial laws, its first laws on hate speech were contained in the 1965 Race Relations Act.
The early advocates were inspired by their anti-fascist activities in London, and much of the debate centered on the German mistreatment of Jews.
22/25 This is not to mention the entire ideological underpinning of the "rules based international order" established at the end of the war.
Many of the founding fathers of the European formulated their ideal as an anti-fascist alternative to German rule.
23/25 Out of the war also came the basis for our conceptions of international law, war crimes, and the just war.
With the myth of the perfectly moral act of war of intervening to stop the Holocaust, liberals can justify any use of force against regimes violating "human rights"
24/25 While the mood of post-war social theorists was moderate, the anti-fascist moral axiom contained a Manichean divide between the defenders of the open society and forces of fascism, which, with the input of Marxo-Freudians, included everything from science to parental roles.
25/25 In an age apparently stripped of metaphysics and grand narratives, the only thing that fills the gap of meaning is the one moral absolute, the absolute evil of Auschwitz.
Everything is bad insofar as it is fascist, and everything is good insofar as it prevents fascism.
Good write up. James Lindsay has a few podcasts on all this stuff also. Jeff's ideological leaders discussed.
Lindsay is great, but he really needs to know his role.
Keeps trying to argue what values people have and what should be done to counter wokeness.
But he's far too committed to the liberal ideal (extreme tolerance, nonviolence, play by the rules, don't question biological equality, etc) to be a guide for action.
He's great at identifying and arguing against the excesses and path of woke, but he's counterproductive beyond that.
One useful thing he's done recently, because the nature of this particular cultural revolution we're living through has a thoroughly religious bent to it, is to identify Marx not as an economist or social scientist, but as a theologian and religious figure and that his works need to be taken as such.
The ethics of Marxism has usurped the Judeo-Christian ethic throughout academia and is now entrenched in the system of public schools in the US. "Do good, work hard and reap your reward" has been replaced with "empower your betters and they will provide for you".
They are all-in on Marcuse and the elimination of the bonds of family.
I really wish I'd gotten my shit together and published some stuff 10-15 years ago.
I was calling progressivism a religion back then (as I'm sure others were), and a clear development through the years of Puritanism (abolitionists, temperance, suffrage were 3 of the stages that I can remember identifying).
It's been about a decade since I stopped manic-writing, but the conclusions I came to 2008-2013ish have proven close to 100% accurate.
I can't prove this or anything, so feel free to ignore, but I do feel guilty at times for not putting it out there.
Indeed.
But now he's spent the last 24 hours arguing about how LGB is totally good and not a slippery slope, but those darn BQs are the real bad guys.
So now he's botching at people about gay marriage and sodomy laws and how awful it will be.
It's tough to defeat the woke when you're spending time fighting against the fantasy of how bad it would be if the woke are defeated...
*darn TQs, not BQs
Where is Sarc? He was peddling the narrative just last Friday that anytime he posts seriously about liberty and economics that nobody wants to engage. Yet here are 3 of his loudest critics responding positively to exactly that. Maybe he is really just the gaslighting shitposter I feel compelled to call out.
Here is my citation. You can observe in the thread just above how disingenuous he is in his arguments.
Teachers keep saying this.
Tom Elliott
@tomselliott
Florida 5th grade teacher who showed students an LGBT-themed Disney movie: "Ignorant" of parents to complain.
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Your "rights as a parent, those rights are gone when your child is in the public school system"
“It takes a village “
Just for the record, the full quote is "It takes a village to steal your child".
It takes the village people to raise a child.
Stop quoting Jeff.
That is a damn good argument for having your kid in anything other than the public school system. In fact, it is an excellent argument for not having a public school system.
Your “rights as a parent, those rights are gone when your child is in the public school system”. They all believe this, and this is why you should get your kids out of public school immediately.
Lawmakers want to force federal agencies to "reinstate and apply the telework policies, practices and levels … in effect on December 31, 2019."
The citizenry can't as easily be grieved by bureaucrats sitting in the comfort of their homes.
"Look for the union labia."
Excellent
Point: krokko
Interesting, given that strippers trend Republican.
Lol ok. At least we'll have an interesting conversation then.
It's odd but true - the reason is that they feel that the Democrats are too soft on people unwilling to do what it takes to earn a living, while they are getting paid on the basis of their own efforts.
Living in NY, one can encounter strippers at a few non-stripper bars - Raccoon Lodge downtown, Russian Vodka Room (highly recommended, btw), etc.
Cite?
SRG, Reason https://reason.com/2023/05/17/doctors-detail-dangerous-pregnancy-care-in-states-with-abortion-restrictions/?comments=true#comment-10066322
I would love to see this data, because it is very very likely that SRG is full of shit.
I have periodically read AMAs and other articles from strippers, and they have pretty much all been standard leftists who think republicans are uptight prudes trying to fuck with their jobs. If they ever have anything nice to say about republicans, it is that they are hypocrites who make the best clients.
I've actually known a few. And this was their general position. They knew that in principle the GOP were kinda opposed to stripping, but in practice they'd do little because after all GOP voters - and politicians - want to visit strip clubs as well.
Oh so all we need to do is believe your story about the strippers you know (are they friends with your girlfriend from Canada?).
Sorry, absent any proof, imma go with "SRG is full of shit".
GOP opposition to strip clubs is not evident from this list:
Best states for strip clubs
And of course, I didn't ask for proof that Republicans like strip clubs. I asked for proof that Strippers tend to be Republican.
I'll take this as admission that you are full of shit and can't back up what you said.
They're typical service-industry youths.
If you've ever been around the social scene of restaurant/bar staff, they tend to be shallow, reflexively left wing hedonists.
'golf clap'
Definitely a titillating topic of conversation.
Hilarious.
Daily Loud
@DailyLoud
An “anti-capitalist” café and coffee shop in Toronto named The Anarchist with a “pay what you can” business model will close at the end of the month after just over a year in business.
Owner went on to blame capitalism and his customers who didn't pay enough for his pay what you want policies.
It's too bad commies are such a fundamental danger to a functioning, high-trust society, otherwise their stupidity could simply be laughed off as basic naivete.
otherwise their stupidity could simply be laughed off as basic naivete
They have the sensibilities of children and, like children, when others don't submit to their nonsense and agree to give up all their hard earned possessions, they throw tantrums. Tantrums with guns. See: Dekulakization.
Apparently his customers didn't value his products/services highly enough to support him. I've heard of other businesses run along these lines that managed to last a lot longer. But under any business model not based on theft, the only way to stay in business is to offer customers something they value enough that they're willing to pay you at least as much as it costs you to provide it.
Los Angeles strippers are unionizing.
Striking against daddy.
No touching!
The union will touch their money quite a bit.
New boss, same as the old boss.
The interesting thing about Unions is that they universally protect incumbents. Benefits, cushy job assignments and pay always end up protecting the workers with seniority.
It is a fact that stripping works the opposite: as you get older, demand for your product goes down. So it will be fun to watch what happens as the older strippers try to tilt the workplace to their advantage. My bet is that you will see all the young talent going to clubs in Orange County, while the clubs up north are filled with union bosses in their late 30s.
The amount of money spent per public school student begins drastically diverging from teacher salary starting in the 70s or 80s. Teacher salary has remained relatively flat while education spending has skyrocketed.
I'm guessing this trend coincides very closely with the rise in influence of teachers unions...
Per-student spending on administrative positions accounts for the biggest share of the increase.
High schools in my area have 4 assistant principals and every middle school has at least two.
Then you get to the district office and you've got a bunch of assistant superintendents and all the damn curriculum consultants.
That's before you get to the even more worthless DEI admins.
Fire half these paper pushers and there's lots of money to increase classroom salaries and teacher positions.
Same deal in higher ed. The bulk of the skyrocketing budgets is going to ever less relevant administrative positions, not to actual instructors.
...a new regulatory agency to handle artificial intelligence.
Skynet starts out as ungovernable.
This is a month old, but have people seen this story? Egyptian lawyers are suing Netflix for their documentary on Cleopatra in which they race-swapped her.
https://www.thenationalnews.com/mena/2023/04/21/egyptian-lawyer-sues-netflix-over-depiction-of-cleopatra/
“We don’t often get to see or hear stories about black queens, and that was really important for me."
"But, enough about RuPaul."
Maybe because there’s just so few black ruling female monarchs in history. I’m sorry that history doesn’t work for you.
Netflix made a documentary series exclusively to highlight black queens. They made it one episode before deciding they were out of ideas, and said, “Screw it, we’ll race-swap Cleopatra.”
NHL network did them one better by making a documentary called “Ice Queens” about black hockey moms (all 3 of them) and “their important contributions to the game we love”.
The pandering is way beyond tiresome by now. When does it become offensive to the people being pandered to? Can’t happen soon enough.
https://twitter.com/Patrici15767099/status/1658651030970572800?s=19
Jada Pinkett Smith says she blames ‘white supremacists’ for the flop of her new Netflix docudrama series, Queen Cleopatra, which has one the worst audience ratings in U.S. television history.
[Link]
Their expert documentary had literally zero people who were experts in Egyptian history. They're just full of shit.
But hey, I had some serious issues with the Netflix "Rome" documentary, which actually succeeded. I made it 5 minutes into the first episode before I said, "You're just making shit up!" and turned it off.
I liked their Shogun and Ottoman ones a lot, but I'm not as familiar with the specifics of those topics.
Probably why I watched those but haven't gotten around to watching the Rome one- don't want to get pissed off.
I did recently watch John Milius' Rome series though.
Still the best 2 seasons of drama ever made.
I was the same, though I made it through one episode. Amazon Prime has thousands of lectures from real professors that cover this material. If you really want to watch tv for your historical education, you generally won't get it from Netflix or even the History Channel. Give up on getting "production value" and instead go for a college professor at some non ivy-league school.
So I read a review from the primary professor behind this doc. She state her claims of using a black actor are based on Cleopatra being culturally black and kept referencing oppression and struggle while defending the use of a sub Sahara black actress. Yet cleopatra was so wealthy and powerful she is described in historical records as making the Roman's jealous of her wealth and privilege.
Take one of the most documented, imaged, discussed queens in history... then lie about her. Great documentary.
Nefertiti says "I'll keep an eye out for it."
https://www.arthistoryproject.com/site/assets/files/11049/bust-of-nefertiti_trivium-art-history-min_upload_tmp.png
I can sorta see what you did there.
Skin color is the most important thing
She also blamed racism for her heavy metal band sucking. Per haps me thinks, she just sucks
Will smith should slap her.
He should get as far away from that soul sucking harpy as possible.
They should have done the queen of Sheba. No one is sure who she was or what she looked like.
True - nor where she came from, though Saudi Arabia and Ethopia are plausible, to the extent that one should regard Kings as even remotely historical.
Let me quote Muddy Waters' daughter Mercy Morganfield:
Except Cleopatra was not black she was Greek. I hate feeding the ignorance of an entire group of people in my community but ignorance must be fed. Unlike Jesus, there are actually historical records and documentation on the entire Egyptian history going back before Ramses.
But black people want to see a black Cleopatra so here she is. I don’t think Jada finished high school not sure. She sure as fuck flunked history.
Give the BLKPIPO what we want I guess.
The only reason we are so fixated on Egypt because —colorism —that’s why.
Egypt was once a part of Africa but….
West Africa is my Motherland. Benin, Togo, and Cameroon.
You don’t have to paint some Greek lady black for me. There were plenty of real black queens in my ancestry.
Egypt was always part of and a major influence on the cultures of the Mediterranean Basin. The landmass is African, and was a link between that area and Sub-Saharan Africa, but Egypt was much its own thing for most of classical history.
Egyptians painted thousands of pictures of themselves, and they weren't black even before the Greek conquest.
The "Egyptian" lawyers probably aren't Egyptian either.
What is fun is the Iranian born director sniffing at actual Egyptians objecting to having their culture's history being hijacked by essentially saying "Why do you insist Cleopatra was Macedonian? That is not your kind!".
I overheard the primary provider say to a nurse that so much as offering a helping hand to a patient getting onto the gurney while in the throes of a miscarriage could be construed as 'aiding and abetting an abortion.'
Don't forget about the politicians who enabled that hand-offering nurse with public transportation!
That's the thing, most of these stories are activist "doctors" pulling this shit because they think they are proving a point. ENB falls for it every time
You say 'falls for it', I say 'enthusiastically goes along'.
this never happened
Amid record oil/gas production and falling prices US energy companies cut output:
‘Halt button’ hit on drilling in US oil and gas slowdown
https://www.ft.com/content/d66f640c-babf-48e2-b13f-75006df3bc53
Rig count falling!
Prices got too low!
Blame Biden!
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. Turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides
Turns out BIDEN SHUT DOWN ALL USA DRILLING! was just another ignorant conservative trope.
On federal land. Somehow, you left the important bit out to push your own lies.
You intellectual leaders an AM radio always leave "federal lands" out.
It is why redneck America is so stupid. They get misled by ignorant Fat Rush Limpcock types.
Haven't listened to AM radio beyond the traffic report for years, so I've no idea what they say there, Turd. But, it wasn't they who left the term "federal lands" out here, it was you, Turdo.
What a shock. Some wells are a lot more expensive to operate than others. When prices fall, the most expensive get shut down when it costs more to pump a barrel of oil than it's selling for.
https://twitter.com/DrProudman/status/1658235206497697792?t=fP8BpeW15OalC0hD1DHRFQ&s=19
As a white person, we must recognise our privilege under white supremacy, colonialism and imperialism. People of colour have been denied equality because of conscious and unconscious racism and prejudice. So yes, we should feel guilty and ashamed.
… feel guilty and ashamed.
How does that help anything “
So you can be guilted and shamed into giving the Something-For-Nothing Crowd something for nothing.
Well why hasn't she changed her name?
No. I do not feel the need to take responsibility for what other people did. And even if I did, most of my ancestors were Polish and Irish Catholic. They were not exactly "privileged" throughout history.
In "Care Post-Roe: Documenting cases of poor-quality care since the Dobbs decision," the Texas Policy Evaluation Project (TxPEP) reports preliminary findings from a study that asked doctors to evaluate how their practices have changed since the Supreme Court's June 2022 decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization. Since then, 14 states have either enacted near-total bans on abortion or passed additional restrictions.
Best practices like murder of a child? Or is it more the activists doctors being told they can't do thing they legally can due to misinformation from groups like this?
The report was activism.
Censored for talking about...
censorship.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/05/16/i-have-been-censored-for-warning-about-censorship/
If you want to discover the limits of free speech nowadays, talk about sex and gender. On social media, on a university campus or in the public square, try saying that a woman is an adult human female, men cannot become women and there is no such thing as a transgender child. The response will be immediate and, sadly, predictable. There will be protests, perhaps police intervention and, almost always, censorship.
This was the point I planned to make in a public lecture organised by Canada’s Society for Academic Freedom and Scholarship (SAFS) later this week. This open lecture, free for anyone to attend, was to be held at the London Public Library in Ontario. Not any more. In an irony clearly lost on the library’s managers, they have cancelled my talk about censorship. They have stopped me from saying that discussions of sex and gender are routinely censored. In doing so, they have stopped members of the public from discussing one of the most fundamental issues of our time. And they have clearly proven my point.
The library managers were frightened that I might speak truths about sex and gender that they were not willing to let people hear. They have set themselves up as gatekeepers of what can and cannot be said. After all, the London Public Library seemingly has no problem hosting drag queen storytimes for young children. By stopping me from speaking, it is clearly taking sides in the gender debate and preventing the opposing view from being heard.
The sex is settled.
Every time I read one of these "trans people aren't real" screeds, I'm reminded of all the "gay people aren't sreal" screeds that were once common and are now thankfully uncommon.
Attempts to force trans folk to be cis are as doomed as attempts to force gay people to be straight or left-handed people to be right-handed. Your best case scenario is a broken individual, not a cis/straight/right-handed one.
But I suspect you know this, and find it acceptable.
Did any tranny ask me if it was OK to call me "cis"?
I ask because this "respect" thing seems decidedly one way.
I thought the point of the article and the speech referenced was about censorship, and the irony of censoring a speech about censorship.
I’m reminded of all the “gay people aren’t sreal” screeds that were once common and are now thankfully uncommon.
Cite? Seriously, I am 53 and have never heard such a screed. Calling another kid “gay” was fighting words because gay is real. The thing that has changed is that it is no longer generally acceptable to call being gay shameful.
All mammals are inherently male or female. It is a definitional trait of the entire class. True same-sex attraction has been demonstrated to be a result of improper activation or failure of activation of hormones at various point during fetal development. It is a somewhat common birth defect that is not genetic. It is also true that some people choose to be gay as a lifestyle for various reasons. There is nothing wrong with that. People should be free to love who they love.
Meanwhile, gender dysmorphia is a very rare mental disorder that has never been demonstrated to have any scientific basis except perhaps in the case of the extremely rare (1 in 100,000 births) Klinefelter Syndrome or babies with ambiguous genitalia who are provided corrective surgery at birth. I do not have a number associated with ambiguous genitalia, but I personally know someone that was born with that birth defect. I also know 2 unrelated people who were born with the equally rare transposition of the the major arteries which is why anecdotal evidence is unreliable.
So, no, “being transsexual” is not real. You are free to argue about societal norms for dress and behavior among men and women. But arguing that “gender is assigned at birth” and that plastic surgery can correct “misgendering” is fallacious. Personally, I would like to be taller, but if I start a discussion about my child being “misheightened” to advocate for him to be provided with HGH, I would be rightfully be prevented from having the hormones administered to him even though it is regularly administered to children with thyroid dysfunction.
"Cis" is a fake term.
You're an authentic idiot.
Your best case scenario is a broken individual, not a cis/straight/right-handed one.
LOL, even when they were getting their junk chopped off in Trinidad, the long-term mental health results remained the same after ten years. That's why Jazz Jennings still feels physical and emotional dislocation and remains on a cocktail of drugs years after getting the very thing he supposedly wanted, along with massive validation from Hollywood for it.
So the *appropriate* answer to the question of whether or not you're concerned that the white proportion of the US population is rapidly decreasing is one that I'm sure many of you share: it doesn't matter, it's ideas that are important.
But have you actually thought about it?
White people are the only demographic that doesn't have a significant in-group positive bias or out-group negative bias.
So, if a white population is diminished/replaced by a non-white population, what might we expect the results to be?
More food trucks?
"West Side Story" with an all hispanic cast.
A woman has died from abortion restriction that limited her doctors' options in treating her miscarriage, that woman is Savita Halappanavar, who died in 2012 in Ireland. Will it be necessary for a woman to die in America before we take the actions the Irish took after this death.
Miscarriages are not abortion. If they die it is the result of activist doctors intentionally misinterpreting the law. Hospital administration is now having to tell doctors facts regarding treatment and care due to abortion activists lying about the law.
Just like the claim you can't say Gay in Florida anymore due to the "don't say gay law". Its lies to make a point for political purposes and unfortunately these doctors are playing politics with patient lives. so who is truly evil here the law or the doctor
Miscarriages are not abortion.
But sometimes, the treatment for a miscarriage is abortion.
But you knew that.
No. It isnt. And you actually know that and choose lie about it. Once a miscarriage begins the baby is not viable and will die without any external action taken.
You are a dolt. When a fetus dies in utero there is still fetal tissue that must be expelled. If it is not expelled naturally it is a source of infection. So, doctors must move to get the tissue expelled. That means either a D&C, administering medical abortifacient, or for a fetus that was far along inducing labor.
After the miscarriage has happened? Are you retarded? A miscarriage can require zero intervention by a doctor. Some do. Not all. They are not the same fucking thing.
Estimated 59% of early miscarriages are incomplete and require follow-up care. This means taking action to expel the fetal tissue. Again, you have no idea about woman's health.
Miscarriages and abortions are not remotely similar. Literally zero laws in the USA prevent treatment for a miscarriage.
This is becoming as pathetic as hearing gun rights advocates discussing how "quick and easy" it is to buy guns.
The example case that mentions miscarriage above isn't about treatment for a miscarriage. It is about possibility of causing a miscarriage, and causing a miscarriage is similar to an abortion.
Cite?
Your stupidity grows.
The medical name for miscarriage is spontaneous abortion…
Thank you. Not sure where damikesc is getting his gynecological knowledge that, “Miscarriages and abortions are not remotely similar.”
This is false.
Miscarriage A miscarriage is the spontaneous loss of a fetus before the 20th week of pregnancy.
Abortion is a medical procedure that involves the removal of pregnancy tissue, products of conception, or the fetus and placenta (afterbirth) from the uterus.1 It can be done in two different ways.
That a miscarriage is a spontaneous abortion is true. A medical procedure cannot be spontaneous. It is also true that miscarriages and medical procedures remove pregnancy tissue are not remotely similar.
Same results, but completely different methods.
What planet are you living on? The fact is that procedures are in some cases identical. This is why doctors are reluctant to act. They don't want to be accused of acting to quickly and suggesting that they could have saved a doomed fetus. Take some time learn the facts.
Keyword. Some. Something you even admitted to to defend all abortions. Weird.
Same field that can torture logic to justify abortions at any point and permit sex change drugs for minors are just too damned confused about this law.
Bullshit. Women and doctors are going to get punished over miscarriages. It has happened in other countries with extreme anti-abortion laws, and only some kind of magical thinking could possibly allow anyone to believe it won't happen here. At least one woman already has been charged. The charges were quickly dropped because the law specifically did not allow that, but the fact that some idiot prosecutor ever tried is pretty disturbing all by itself.
Yes, thanks!
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/woman-died-ireland-abortion-ban-warning-americans-roe-v-wade-rcna35431
This woman died because of an abortion ban. Americans fear they could be next.
“I think maternal mortality will go up,” said the expert who wrote Ireland's official report on the death of Dr. Savita Halappanavar, who was denied an abortion.
Also see this:
https://news.yahoo.com/woman-cancerous-pregnancy-told-wait-215500885.html
Woman with Cancerous Pregnancy Was Told to Wait in Parking Lot Until She Was 'Crashing'
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/molar-pregnancy/symptoms-causes/syc-20375175
From there, we see that MOLAR PREGNANCIES ARE NEVER VIABLE!!! Yet fascist assholes like (Mammary-Fuhrer etc.) want to endanger women in the Sacred Name of Unique Human DNA, which is present in a womb-slave!
From the listed source…
There are two types of molar pregnancy — complete molar pregnancy and partial molar pregnancy. In a complete molar pregnancy, the placental tissue swells and appears to form fluid-filled cysts. There is no fetus.
In a partial molar pregnancy, the placenta might have both regular and irregular tissue. There may be a fetus, but the fetus can’t survive. The fetus usually is miscarried early in the pregnancy.
Maternal mortality is positively correlated with BMI, which shouldn’t come as a surprise with how obese women are in the US. It also explains why black woman have higher maternal mortality as they tend to have higher BMIs.
Doctors mistakes are the 3rd leading other cause of the death in the united states.
And having extremely STUPID lawmakers totally micro-manage the snot out of them will FIX this somehow?
Choking is the 4th leading cause. It would be fun to see disingenuous shitweasel M4E clawing at his throat and turning blue.
Not ready for prime time.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/05/17/the-grand-folly-of-self-driving-cars/
Autonomous vehicles have been creeping up on us for a while now. This week, self-driving buses appeared on the roads of Scotland. Self-driving taxis have been permitted on the streets of San Francisco for some weeks, with limited success. ‘It’s a nightmare’, one resident told the Daily Mail, ‘these things are causing havoc because they don’t know what to do when something unpredictable happens’.
The self-driving features of Teslas in particular have elicited concerns. The Dawn Project, a campaign group, has shown that self-driving Teslas fail to recognise a clearly visible stationary child, even when driving at low speed. It cites data from the US road-safety agency, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), showing that Tesla’s ‘self-driving mode’ has caused 19 fatalities.
So where has autonomous driving gone wrong? Robot trains work well, such as on London’s Docklands Light Railway, because the path has been cleared of hazards and is highly predictable. The vehicle is physically separated from other users of the space, such as pedestrians, dogs and Waitrose canvas tote bags. A human operator can safely monitor a large part of the network from a distance. An AV, on the other hand, must negotiate the space with all manner of moving and stationary objects.
Some of the self-driving car’s problems cannot be solved by technological breakthroughs. For instance, since there is no human operator to blame, the liability for a car that causes an accident rests entirely with the decisions encoded into the hardware by the manufacturer. This has led to what the author and transport commentator Christian Wolmar calls the ‘Holborn problem’. When pedestrians spill en masse on to the streets, as they do outside London’s Holborn station at 5pm every Friday evening, this stops AVs in their tracks. Since the computer can’t be programmed to drive towards a crowd of humans, without potentially bankrupting the manufacturer in a subsequent lawsuit, it simply halts. Traffic behind the vehicle also halts and very soon, the city is gridlocked.
Autonomous vehicles have burned brightly for so long because they are a gateway drug to other technocratic fantasies. In ‘smart cities’, for example, the routes taken by an AV could be managed by a town-hall clerk, who could divert the vehicle to avoid congestion. For others, the prospect of on-demand autonomous vehicles rolling up to our doors would signal the end of vehicle ownership. ‘You will own nothing, and you will be happy’, goes the maxim of the technocrats at the World Economic Forum.
.. since there is no human operator to blame,
That’s what the real problem is.
Since the computer can’t be programmed to drive towards a crowd of humans, without potentially bankrupting the manufacturer in a subsequent lawsuit, it simply halts. Traffic behind the vehicle also halts and very soon, the city is gridlocked.
The authoritarian left has the solution for this in the bag. More laws regarding where and when people can walk and the elevation of jaywalking to a felony.
“….and the elevation of jaywalking to a felony.”
Shoplifters with $950 worth of stolen goods often jaywalk, (since they have a right to the street as well) so this is a no go.
“Disproportionately impacting blah, blah”…., you know the rest.
While ENB is busy whining about abortion, other things are happening...
https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_318ef93e-f44c-11ed-bdb5-cffe76e32cfe.html
Twenty-four Republican governors have responded to Texas Gov. Greg Abbott’s call for help to secure its border with Mexico.
“The federal government’s response handling the expiration of Title 42 has represented a complete failure of the Biden Administration,” the governors said in a joint statement, referring to the end of the public health authority, Title 42, which expired at midnight on May 11.
Within the past few days, groups of tens of thousands of foreign nationals arrived in the Rio Grande Valley and in other areas of Texas, overwhelming Border Patrol agents, officials said. Abbott has already sent more than 10,000 Texas National Guard troops to the border as border communities continue to declare emergencies.
The governors pledging support in addition to Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who is deploying troops and resources in the next 24 hours, include those of Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Missouri, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, New Hampshire, Nevada, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia, West Virginia, and Wyoming.
In his letter to his fellow 49 governors, Abbott wote, “The flood of illegal border activity invited by the Biden Administration flows directly across the southern border into Texas communities, but this crisis does not stop in our state. Emboldened Mexican drug cartels and other transnational criminal enterprises profit off this chaos, smuggling people and dangerous drugs like fentanyl into communities nationwide.
“In the federal government’s absence, we, as Governors, must band together to combat President Biden’s ongoing border crisis and ensure the safety and security that all Americans deserve.”
The 24 governors agreed. No Democratic governors have responded as of publication. The Democratic governors of the three neighboring border states – New Mexico, Arizona and California – have made no similar requests as Abbott’s.
Of course, the Administration has been dumping most of them in Texas and not the other three states as cell phone tracking of the illegals' phones (given to them by the feds) shows.
ENB deliberately ignored the story because she's a leftist and wanted to make you angry.
Sarcasm is obviously missed on you in spite of your handle.
Calm down. Don't let her get under your skin like that. I know it's personal. She skips certain news just to make you and you alone angry. You should feel flattered, not angry, that she thinks about you so much that she makes editorial decisions with you in mind.
You do realize that you missed the joke. I couldn't care less what she says on it, it's a quick throwaway joke at her expense.
You, OTOH, live up to your handle on a daily basis.
She literally just wrote a story about the border. Today. Leaving out relevant facts while pushing a false narrative.
But you do love being ignorant.
NH Getting Serious About Neo-Nazi Threat
New Hampshire’s Attorney General’s Office plans to meet with members of Task Force Butler, the anti-fascist group that has been investigating the neo-Nazi terror organization known as NSC-131.
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News of the meeting comes days after a member of NSC-131, Kyle Morris, was sentenced to federal prison for owning machine guns. Morris allegedly planned violent attacks on minorities, including suicidal mass shootings and a terror attack that would end with blowing up the Massachusetts State House.
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Kristofer Goldsmith, founder of Task Force Butler, said his group’s 300-page report detailing the crimes committed by NSC-131 has so far been ignored by other law enforcement agencies in New England where the neo-Nazi gang is operating.
https://indepthnh.org/2023/05/15/nh-getting-serious-about-neo-nazi-threat/
Thoughtcrimes
Um, since when do vandalism, battery and murder constitute thought crimes? These are real, provable crimes with real victims. If you want to argue that "hate crime" enhancements are an attempt at policing thought crimes, there's an excellent case to be made. But the crimes themselves are quite real.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
There are minorities in New Hampshire? Who? French Canucks? Massachussetsians?
They're called "Massholes."
https://twitter.com/vergilswarrior/status/1658826644323287043?t=THzKzgxXEItOyuA1pJWMog&s=19
"humans are actually the real bad guys" is unquestionably the worst trope in media
#irony
https://twitter.com/ENBrown/status/1658782875381055489?t=pVAu5RQGrl4bEkMMIZTm_g&s=19
This thread about the tyranny of packed lunches is amazing
"Work is slavery, other people should just give me the things I need."
Didn't ENB dox some guy and try to get him fired for telling her to make him a sandwich?
Yes.
Elizabeth Nolan Brown
@ENBrown
This is a young man who ostensibly wants a job someday, tweeting at professional women in his field under his own name
https://twitter.com/enbrown/status/891256227619123201
SJW Therapy (long read).
https://www.thefp.com/p/how-therapists-became-social-justice-warriors
In recent decades, the profession has sought to address its bad treatment and historic wrongs. This led to the development, in the ’80s, of “cultural competency”—an awareness of one’s own biases and a commitment not to impose them onto clients. Subsequently, as psychiatrist Sally Satel describes in a recent article, the idea that therapists required specific training to treat minorities expanded. By the early ’90s, the American Psychological Association (APA) had updated its ethics code, requiring therapists to behave in “culturally sensitive” ways and appreciate “the worldview and perspectives of those racially and ethnically different from themselves.”
“The whole point of understanding cultural differences was that you didn’t walk in and assume,” says Christine Sefein, until recently a professor of clinical psychology at Antioch University’s Los Angeles campus. But over the past decade—spurred by the rise of social media, Trump’s election in 2016, and George Floyd’s murder in 2020—Sefein, like many in her profession, began to see the mission change to something more insidious: imposing the bias and framework of Critical Social Justice (CSJ)—the term some psychologists use to refer to social justice ideology.
According to CSJ, one’s identity categories are paramount to the therapeutic process. Neutrality and objectivity—once the cornerstones of the practice—are now tools of oppression and white supremacy. The major professional organizations for the therapeutic fields have in recent years produced scholarship, mission statements, position papers, and curriculums reflecting this newfound dogma, one that leads therapists to refashion themselves into social activists.
Too many people went to college.
you misspelled "women"
Lots of SJWs here at H&R. Anytime I mentioned the abject stupidity of Herschel Walker it was a cascade of "YOU CAN'T SAY THAT ABOUT A BLAEK MAN!"
Remember that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Bingo. The most racist trope in the media is, "any criticism of a person of race X is racist, no matter how merited."
"Neutrality and objectivity—once the cornerstones of the practice—are now tools of oppression and white supremacy"
At this point, it may be quicker to say what isn't white supremacy.
> This is astonishing. Between 2019 and 2023, the % of Republicans who said parents should be able to put their kids in public school without the MMR vaccine (even if it creates health risks for others), more than doubled, from 20% to 42%.
Why is this not surprising? Those who say "I'm not anti-vaxx, I'm only anti-mRNA-vaxx" are lying through their teeth. The whole pandemic anti-vaxx movement came directly out of the old lefty MMR anti-vaxx movement. It's an anti-medicine movement.
It's one thing to be skeptical of a rushed vaccine during a pandemic, but it's another demand the right to send children to school unvaccinated.
The entire concept of vaccines and science has been corrupted, and you played a part in it.
The whole thing? Nonsense. Of course the people who were already opposed to vaccines in general were against it. But lots of smart people who are generally positive on vaccines had concerns, many of which have been born out. There are plenty of reasons to be concerned about a very leaky vaccine based on a largely untested technology being rolled out on a massive scale before we really know what the outcome is likely to be.
People avoiding the MMR vaccine is not a good think in my view. But it is not a huge surprise given the repeated lies we were fed regarding covid vaccines.
I heard a lot of lies about the covid vaccines, but for once they weren't coming from the government. None of those usually disingenuous "concerns" has been borne out. When the rollout started, we knew the vaccine was vastly less dangerous than the disease. That's a much more reasonable standard than perfection.
Didn't you read the comments above. Republican parents are absolved of any responsibility for their parental decisions because Democrats are forcing them to have more distrust.
Cite?
The vaccines weren't "rushed" just because the FDA wasn't allowed their usual endless foot-dragging. They got lucky and the US dodged a bullet on Thalidomide, but they've been using that as an excuse for endless delays ever since. They normally get away with it because the people who could have been help by the drugs they kept in limbo usually aren't as visible. Apparently a four digit daily body count is what it takes to get them to do their job.
A donkey partisan political weapon.
https://nypost.com/2023/05/16/durham-report-shows-us-has-become-a-partisan-political-weapon/
News that the IRS ousted its entire team probing Hunter Biden simply to sideline a whistleblower, coming the same day as the Durham Report on massive Justice Department malfeasance promoting the Russiagate smear, allows for only one conclusion: Much of the federal government is now permanently weaponized to protect Democrats and undermine their enemies.
Top ranks at the FBI and Justice Department fought tooth and nail to kibosh any investigations of Hillary over both the hundreds of millions in shady donations her foundation raked in while she was Secretary of State and her casual, repeated violations of federal law around classified documents.
Then they turned around and opened the Russiagate probe on the basis of third-hand rumor, soon using the Clinton-paid Steele Dossier to fraudulently justify surveilling the Trump campaign.
This, though the entire top of the US government had been warned that the Clinton camp intended to create a bogus Trump-Russia scandal to distract from her misdoings.
Fact is, such outrages go back at least to Lois Lerner’s abuses at the IRS in the runup to the 2012 election, targeting right-leaning nonprofits for punitive investigations.
Meanwhile, all the media that waxed hysterical for years over Russiagate stand largely silent, at best treating Durham’s revelations as old news and House GOP investigations of the millions in foreign cash flowing to various members of the Biden clan as “Republican attacks on the Biden family.”
Rich John Kerry, married into the Heinz fortune, wants you, the little people, to stop farming.
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/john-kerry-would-love-farmers-stop-farming
Kerry noted that agricultural production is responsible for roughly one third of the world's total greenhouse gas emissions and argued that reducing those emissions must be "front and center" in the quest to defeat global warming. Kerry made the remarks at the Department of Agriculture's AIM (Agriculture Innovation Mission) for Climate Summit in Washington, D.C.
The attack on farming by Western leaders is beyond shocking. It is criminal, treasonous. For his part, Kerry neglected to mention that, though agriculture is purportedly responsible for roughly 33% of the world's total greenhouse gas emissions, it is undeniably responsible for the sustenance — and continued existence — of 100% of the world's roughly 8 billion people.
Some cynical might say that that's the plan.
In any case, Democrats are hell-bent (I'm tempted to stop there, but I won't) on banning the use of fossil fuels that have provided the world abundant and inexpensive energy that has led to rising living standards and life expectancies and are now attempting to dramatically curtail the production of farm-raised vegetables and animal-based foodstuffs...in the hopes that we will soon make insects a staple of our diets.
For fuck's sake. Agricultural production is also responsible for 100% of people having stuff to eat.
They're not attacking farming--they're attacking non-centralized farming. The whole point is to get agricultural production entirely under the direct control of the government. That's what's behind the restrictions against farmers in France and the Netherlands as well.
It's simply an effort by these globohomo orgs to take watermelon politics to a global level.
It worked out great for the soviets.
If I thought this sort of thing would actually result in these people dying of starvation, I'd say go for it. It's too bad their bullshit always ends up falling on those who don't want it while they get to carve out exceptions for themselves.
This is why I think Skynet launching the nukes would only be marginally worse.
They're going after the 3 Cs. Cows, Crops and Cars. Who will stop this insanity?
https://twitter.com/realJustATheory/status/1658527730219253761?t=OdJXFbpdX-4WENphvlbLzg&s=19
An A.I. Chatbot was asked to read the Durham Report and give the top 5 highlights about @GenFlynn.
This is truly disturbing and people need to be charged @Jim_Jordan @HouseGOP.
This was a coup attempt plain and simple, and they needed the People's General out of the way before they could continue.
When they charged General Flynn, they decapitated the people's leader capable of organizing to fight back.
Someone unafraid to GUT the alphabet soup for good.
Trump has stated he is bringing him back.
That is reason number 1 of why I will vote Trump in the 2024 primary and general elections.
We need amazing leaders and fighters willing to fix this country.
@realDonaldTrump and General Flynn are 2 of those people.
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Why not, Trump is promising to bring back all his other failures too. In the extraordinarily unlikely event Donnie does get back into office, he won't do any more to clean up the swamp than he did last time. Why people continue to cling to a proven failure who refuses to learn is beyond my comprehension. Trump isn't a fighter, he's a wheeling & dealing blowhard.
The Bud Light boycott spreads.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/bud-light-backlash-shows-no-sign-letting-and-now-there-contagion-budweiser-busch-and
“With other top AB InBev brand share also eroding as well, it appears that the company is in need of a pivotal marketing strategy to halt the trend,” he says, adding that Coors Light, Miller Lite and Modelo still appear to be “soaking up the lost share.”
Miller appears to be fucking up as well - see next story.
Citi analyst Simon Hale examined the latest US Nielsen data through May 6: Bud Light volume declines accelerated to -27.4% compared with -26.6% in the week ended April 29, while sales worsened to down 23.9% from down 23%, he writes.
They tried to use a pretend woman to sell their pretend beer but i dont drink that shit anyway.
The real solution is to not buy any of that shit, because they're all actually promoting DEI crap like that dumb Miller Lite commercial with the horrendously ugly woman, and brew your own.
Lecturing your customer with an ugly aggressive woman while associating your product with actual manure, literally destroying the past, and denigrating humor and beauty.
It's a like a master class in how to ruin your company with a single ad.
So goes Bud Light, so goes Miller Lite.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/miller-lite-joined-woke-cult-feminist-ad-goes-viral
Miller Lite, one of America's most popular beers and recent alternative for Bud Light drinkers, released an advert in March that has gone viral recently, receiving millions of views on social media, with netizens accusing the brand of going 'woke.'
New third-party point-of-sales data from Circana (formerly IRI) and Nielsen show Bud Light dollar share, volume share, and sales continue to worsen, more than a month after the Mulvaney controversy. Data showed that Coors Light, Miller Lite, and Modelo are increasing market share, but now as the spotlight has shifted onto Miller, there are growing calls on social media for boycotts.
Meanwhile, The Daily Caller revealed the chief marketing officer of Molson Coors Beverage, which owns Miller Lite, appears to be a hardcore liberal.
Just like Bud Light, Miller Lite doesn't understand their audience either.
Looks like a smart beer brand would bring back the Swedish bikini team right about now.
You'd think the concept of selling your product, not your politics, wouldn't be hard to understand, but there are some real block-heads around.
Mass-market American beers are virtually indistinguishable and uniformly mediocre to awful. They've been selling image and lifestyle for decades, not beer.
The Miller ad seems to satirize feminaziism. The MS. doesn't know how to operate a forklift.
Which is really fucking ironic because the Coors family are hardcore, anti-union conservatives. Pete was one of the last candidates the GOP ran for Colorado governor before the state finally devolved into a shitlib cesspool. Not coincidentally, Pete retired in 2019.
Also, the dumbest part of that commercial was the statement that women "were among the first brewers in history." Well, no shit, because it was typically an in-home process before people in the ancient world realized they might be able to make a living off of mass-producing it. And of course they would be "among the first", because who else besides men and women might have been involved there?
Just sheer, rank shitlib stupidity wrapped in their typical pseudo-intellectual pretentiousness.
because who else besides men and women might have been involved there?
Ugh, transphobe much? I can't even....
Historically, it was common for women to brew beer for sale, not just for their own family's consumption. How dare those assholes go around saying something historically accurate!
"Ex-SVB CEO blames the Fed, media for bank’s collapse during Senate grilling"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/ex-svb-ceo-blames-the-fed-media-for-bank-s-collapse-during-senate-grilling/ar-AA1bgzSS
'My ham-fisted management had nothing to do with it! The media shouldn't have mentioned how badly we were doing!'
Everyone is so terrible and unfair!
Skin color is the most important thing.
What about his VP of Risk being more concerned about DEI?
https://twitter.com/yobnationalist/status/1658607860144545811?t=HF_npw7KqgzQR_HWkDf49g&s=19
The far right is on the march. Some chilling statements coming out of the National Conservatism conference such as ''having a border'' and suggesting that immigrants should ''adopt the host country's way of living''. I thought we left the racist 2010s behind for good. Very scary.
I heard someone suggest that only citizens should be allowed to vote. It's like the pre-Civil Rights era all over again.
I remember all the lynchings we had in 2010.
#FuckSoros
https://www.outkick.com/elon-musk-george-soros-magneto-tweet/
Elon Musk made it clear he’s not a fan of George Soros or anything the man is about.
Soros is famous in American political circles for pouring money into leftist causes, most notably, elections for district attorneys.
DAs backed by Soros dominated the 2022 election cycle, and the results are pretty obvious to anyone paying attention. District attorneys backed by him seem unbelievably loose on criminals and tough on ordinary citizens.
When faced with some pushback about the comparison, Musk made it clear he doesn’t believe for a second that Soros has pure intentions and claimed the liberal favorite “hates humanity.”
I'm also convinced that Soros hates humanity. Can that fucker die already?
The Twitter owner clearly doesn’t like George Soros, and he’s definitely not alone. The billionaire from Hungary seems to really love to put his thumb on the scale of American politics. He writes checks to liberal causes like it’s going out of style, and the results are damning.
At least one San Francisco region DA was backed by George Soros, according to Fox News, and thanks to crime, the city resembles a failed state. I suppose there’s something to be said for people getting what they vote for. If you vote for weak politicians, don’t be surprised when society collapses.
Elon Musk has seen more than enough to know whatever Soros is for he’s against. Credit to him for speaking out. It’s great to see someone with a large platform give his unfiltered thoughts when so many others are scared to.
You're a fucking moron though.
Open Society is the highest level of Free Speech. It literally means that all debate is welcome and all dogma is challenged.
And Soros fights for democratic capitalism over socialism and conservative/fascist/theocracy.
But you are too stupid to understand free speech and how it challenges your dogma.
And it triggered the SorosSimp, who I figured would be triggered. Pluggo, you're so full of shit, it isn't even funny. You've been shown time and time again that Soros is funding these DAs (SAs) like Bragg and Foxx who play catch and release with criminals while prosecuting political enemies.
Pluggo doesn't care about the truth. He only cares about diddling chidren.
It must be very tiring to be a right wingnut. Can't even go to sleep without checking at least three times to make sure Soros isn't hiding under your bed. Of course, leftards have the same problem, just swap in the Kochs.
A new report details how doctors in states with strict abortion laws have been forced to offer lower-quality care, i
Things that never happened...
The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit will hear oral arguments today in the case concerning the Food and Drug Administration's approval of the abortion drug mifepristone.
Good lord, give it a rest. No one fucking cares about this drug.
ENB cares very, very much. Killing babies is the most important right. You should not have to experience the slightest inconvenience in your pursuit of baby-killing.
If no one cares, why are the extremists so keen to ban it?
Oh, and by the way, criticizing George Soros is not antisemitism.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/elon-musk-defends-bashing-soros-exchange-reporter-bought-pet-prosecutors
Twitter owner Elon Musk defended himself against allegations that he was "antisemitic" after he criticized liberal billionaire George Soros and called him out for funding "pet prosecutors" that do the minimum against violent criminals.
"This is freedom of speech," Musk said of his recent comments against Soros during an interview with CNBC Tuesday. "If anything," Musk added, he considers himself a "pro-semite."
He also refused to back down after he said that Soros "hates humanity" and "wants to erode the very fabric of civilization."
Soros has come under renewed criticism from Republicans after it was revealed that he has funded left-wing district attorneys that represent 20 percent of Americans across the country. More recently, Soros has been criticized for an over $1 million contribution he made to a group closely tied to Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, the prosecutor who led the indictment against former President Donald Trump.
Musk added that Soros’ dismantling of the legal system was intentional.
"Soros’ instructions to his pet prosecutors were (essentially) to minimize prosecuting even violent criminals. That’s why a criminal – someone who had already stabbed his roommate – could brutally assault Dave Chapelle on stage with that same deadly weapon and yet receive merely a misdemeanor!"
Biden was briefed on Clinton involvement in Trump-Russia hoax
"The report further highlights that Brennan specifically informed the group of then-candidate Hillary Clinton's approval of a plan to paint Trump as being in league with Moscow."
In Atlanta, Boot Girls fight parking enforcement by "unlock[ing] metal brackets attached to vehicles parked on private property" like "boot removal Robin Hoods."
now THIS is the kind of libertarian news I can get into it. Thanks Reason.
Durham is Too Late to Stop the Madness
"A Special Counsel report chronicles how intelligence agencies engineered a national hysteria, but its publication comes too late to reverse the damage"
Durham just proved Trump has been telling the truth all along.
This was already widely known and has been for years. Durham's job was to do something about it and bring those involved to justice. He failed miserably.
Durham did his job.
He covered up all the cat-shit in the litter-box and then this week yelled THEY NEVER WERE NO CAT SHIT!
Durham scooped all of the cat shit out of the litter box, shoved it under your nose, and you still can’t bring yourself to admit it’s cat shit.
Lying pedo.
What cat shit, retard?
Give us one example of a Trump-Russia accusation that wasn't thoroughly discredited. You don't even have to give a link or a cite. Just an example that wasn't indisputably proven false.
Crickets
Schiff Aide Threatened Researchers Who Refused to Investigate False Trump–Russia Links
Special Counsel John Durham's report reveals Democratic efforts to push the Alfa Bank conspiracy
WATCH: Trump Impeachment 'Gladiator' Attacks Journalist on Behalf of FBI
It's open season on Trump Associates at Alvin Bragg's New York Courts.
Rudy Giuliani denies sexual assault allegations made in $10 million lawsuit by former employee
George Soros will probably give her another ten just for filing.
She never went to the cops, never reported it, never told anyone, and seriously, read her complaints. Far-fetched is an understatement. She was apparently his sex slave and drug pusher.
I don't think that the Democrats are going to like this sort of lawfare when it turns on them.
I don’t think that the Democrats are going to like this sort of lawfare when it turns on them.
LOL, good one. Most Republicans are spineless pussies who will boast about how they’re above this. That’s why the progressive left does most of the shit they do. There is no fear of retaliation.
Rudy Guiliani just got caught for attempting to sell Trump pardons for $2 million each back in 2020.
If Giuliani had been around back in medieval times he would have been a bishop, dispensing indulgences.
You've got him now, Shrike, White Mike. The walls are closing in!
Seriously though, this is just throwing shit and making the process the punishment at this point. Harrassment lawfare for the purpose of trying to scare of others.
"But after she was hired, Dunphy alleged, Giuliani kept her employment “secret” and paid her only about $12,000 and reimbursed some of her business expenses, owing her $1,988,000 in unpaid wages.
He demanded she work naked, in a bikini, or in short shorts with an American flag on them that he bought for her.
"Since he regularly drank all day and night, it became part of Ms. Dunphy's responsibilities to fetch his alcohol and make sure that he was a "functioning alcoholic."
The complaint says that many of the comments were recorded, and include both racist, antisemitic, homophobic and fatphobic remarks.
The complaint alleges that in recorded statements to Dunphy, Giuliani called her many derogatory gendered slurs, said he could not "control [himself]" with her and allegedly said "I think of you as my daughter. Is that weird?" while engaging in sexual contact with Dunphy, according to the complaint.
Dunphy alleged in her suit that Giuliani talked about presidential pardons. She said Giuliani claimed to have “immunity” and told “her that he was selling pardons for $2 million, which he and President Trump would split.” The lawsuit did not suggest any pardons were sold.
If Giuliani and Trump were going to sell pardons as this obvious hooker claims, I'm pretty sure it'd be for a lot more than a billionaires pocket lint.
And of course this isn't her first time suing wealthy men for raping her, she's tried to sue two others before Giuliani.
"Doctors Detail Dangerous Pregnancy Care in States With Abortion Restrictions"
Truth in headlines:
Doctors document negligence in pursuit of political goals.
"political goals"
You've got it backwards. The doctors were minding their own business, engaging in doctoring, when politics sought them out.
Literally every single thing a doctor can say or do is micromanaged by the state. Abortion is not a special case. Doctors were not just doctoring and minding their own business until abortion came along.
How clueless does one have to be to even say such a thing?
It's fascinating, in a bad car wreck sort of way, to watch self-proclaimed libertarians claiming that some infringements of freedom justify further infringements.
The study outlined here is anecdotal. Statistically - the results will become similar and we will see them over time. First there is already a correlation between one important measure of poor maternal medical care (maternal mortality rates) and the propensity of those states to choose to restrict abortion at the state/legal level. eg the worst outcome among bigger states is Arkansas which is comparable to El Salvador. The best outcome among bigger states is California which is comparable to UK/Canada/Serbia. Obviously there are other measures too.
One thing is certain - those states that have chosen to restrict abortion at the state level are not the states that are taking this opportunity to provide better maternal medical care. Instead, the aim is to badmouth mothers who open their legs without having a privately-paid comprehensive maternity health insurance up-front. Which means those states will have worse outcomes over time.
Not that the Rothbard/Rockwell caucus will ever pay attention to any reality like this. They don't accept facts that don't conform with their pre-set narrative and their preset narrative is that abortion is mainly just a whim and under no circumstances should government even be allowed to collect/publish statistics that might lead one to consider how said mortality rates might need to be improved via any public discussion.
Which means those states will have worse outcomes over time.
Only if you, contravening some of your own other narratives, equate humans with tribbles.
We’ll see.
Once again, I’ll be right. You won’t. And it won’t have anything to do with tribbles.
Your track record suggests otherwise.
God damn. Lol. Funniest shit you've ever said.
Get out of here and stop trying to confuse people with your filthy facts and logic!
“This is astonishing.”
No, it’s people engaging in pattern recognition.
North Carolina legislators overrode the governor's veto of a bill that will ban most abortions after 12 weeks of pregnancy.
So like most of europe then?
No not like Europe at all. Europe offers maternity care to all mothers. North Carolina doesn't.
LOL. Did you just *intentionally* conflate abortion with maternity care or *unintentionally* conflate abortion with maternity care?
Most abortions are by poor women. 75% by those whose income is less than 2x the poverty level. They are precisely the ones who don't have maternity care access either - which costs an average out-of-pocket $3,000 - or $18,000 for those without insurance.
You Rothbard/Rockwell caucus clowns sure as fuck don't understand market incentives do you
wut?
Nothing says maternal care like having pieces of your corpse chucked in the clinic's incinerator.
Nothing says "pro-life" like forcing women to bear children they're in no position to support, or requiring them to risk their health by requiring them to carry a non-viable fetus to term. Delaying treatment until they've suffered injuries that might make it difficult or impossible to have children in the future? Definitely pro-life!
Wow they did that with a "razor thin supermajority"
They would have failed if they'd lost even one vote. I'm not sure how much thinner it could possibly be.
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But a doctor in a state with an abortion ban was afraid to remove the IUD because doing so could also risk a miscarriage.
This never happened. How credulous do you have to be to buy this nonsense?
What Happens to the Democrats Who Claimed They Had Evidence of Collusion?
The same thing that happens to the goofballs with proof of the big steal ?
More bullshit from ENB. Did you happen to speak with any other "doctors" besides the ones that bleat the company line?
Reason is about narrative padding, what you're looking for is journalism. You might want to try somewhere else for that.
In case anyone needs a laugh today:
"A Black woman and a white woman went viral fighting racism. Then they stopped speaking to each other"
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2023-05-17/starbucks-racism-viral-fame-led-to-diversity-dei-project-that-the-founders-canceled
I read the opening and nothing in it surprises me. Herpetologist's handshakes and all.
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Dangerous for who? My beloved unicorn in imaginary land or some waste of skin hooker?
Sincerely, Your Pro-Life psychopaths.
A pre-viable pregnancy has no inherent right to life.
If you cannot support ?baby? freedom (i.e. Fetal Ejection)
UR supporting Gov-Gun FORCED reproduction,.
For perspective, this is what a fetus looks like at just 30 weeks gestation
OMG! A fetal ejection 9-weeks or 63-days past viability ( Roe v Wade). ???
Are you sure that wasn't a "murdered" baby? After all the woman isn't being FORCED to keep reproducing obviously.
Thirty weeks is generally considered well past the point of viability. Despite the constant lies of the anti-abortion extremists, virtually no one supports elective abortions post-viability.
Considering the fanaticism attached to abortion, it would not be surprising if pro-abortion doctors deliberately withheld care as a silent protest against this law.
Religion + Gov-Guns = a very wildly bad premise for any government.
It would be even less surprising if anti-abortion extremists spread bullshit and lies. They've long since tipped their hand to reveal themselves to be eagerly disingenuous and flatly dishonest.
Not shrike, you lying cracker.
They want to annoy you until you leave.
This is a right-wing echo chamber. Dissent not allowed!
(the real shrike here)
Speaking of lying crackers...
Say that "the unclouded day-time Earth-sky is blue", and ye drooling morons will ask for a cite! Can you get ANY stupider? Are ye PROUD of being stupid?
That would be Uncle Clarence.
Zip a dee doo dah zip a dee day.
I'm from Georgia, dude.
He will never know but remain convinced he is fully informed.
I have ITL and R Mac muted, but it sounds like one of them asked for a cite. As I’ve said before, I ask others for cites all the time — and I don’t mind providing cites to back up the things I say.
A quick googling brought up as its top hit this article on how doctors used to use the word “abortion” for both induced and spontaneous loss of pregnancy, and how a change in medical culture to make more of a distinction came about:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3841747/
‘It is curious’, began a letter to the Lancet published in 1985, ‘that, in a language as descriptively rich as English, no clear distinction is made between a spontaneous and an induced expulsion of the contents of the uterus in early pregnancy.’ The communication, printed under the heading ‘Miscarriage or Abortion?’, came from a group at St Mary’s Hospital London led by Richard Beard, then Professor of Obstetrics and Gynaecology.1 It continued: ‘Doctors use the word ‘abortion’ regardless of whether it was a spontaneous or induced event, yet our patients always speak of ‘miscarriages’ unless they have had a termination of pregnancy. It seems likely that the words have been interchangeable for many centuries…’ Beard et al described the offence caused to those women who miscarry ‘by the use of the word abortion to describe their condition’. They appealed to doctors and all health professionals ‘to start using the word miscarriage rather than abortion for a spontaneous pregnancy loss before 28 weeks of pregnancy.’
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
That doesn't back up your assertion at all.
In the right-wing mind, the difference goes like this:
***IF*** you are a friend of "Team R", then if your pregnancy comes to an end for ANY reason, without a live birth, then it is called a "miscarriage", and... "Your sins are forgiven, my child!"
***IF*** you are NOT a friend of "Team R", then if your pregnancy comes to an end for ANY reason, without a live birth, then it is called an "abortion", and... "YOU AND your doctor MUST be severely PUNISHED, ye Evil Slut!"
https://www.ekathimerini.com/opinion/1156932/for-my-friends-everything-for-my-enemies-the-law/
‘For my friends, everything; for my enemies, the law’
The song of dictators and authoritarians EVERYWHERE!!!
Another trait picked up from Mike and Jeff because he thinks the response is intelligent. It isn't.
"He loves simping"
R Mac is missing her period, ass we can see above! R Mac is preggers! Who's the Proud Pappa, R Mac? Does it have a soul yet?
Ya gonna ABORT it, put it up for adoption, or keep it?
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What, did Mike assert that JesseBahnFuhrer has a brain, and uses it to deal with actual FACTS? ... In THAT particular case, you'd be correct!
Yes, we already know you're a hicklib pederast.
Doh!
Whatever, they're all phonies.
The complete absence of self awareness is hilarious
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