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'See Something, Say Something Online Act' Punishes Big Tech for Not Snitching

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A new bill revitalizes the war on terror's favorite slogan in service of forcing tech companies to turn over more user data to the government. The "See Something, Say Something Online Act," introduced by Sen. Joe Manchin (D–W.Va.) and co-sponsored by Sen. John Cornyn (R–Texas), is the latest attack on the federal communications law known as Section 230 as well as freedom of speech and online privacy.

The legislation says any interactive computer service provider—that means social media giants, small blogs, podcast hosting services, app stores, consumer review platforms, independent political forums, crowdfunding and Patreon-style sites, dating apps, newsletter services, and much more—will lose Section 230 protections if they fail to report any known user activity that might be deemed "suspicious."

"Suspicious" content is defined as any post, private message, comment, tag, transaction, or "any other user-generated content or transmission" that government officials later determine "commits, facilitates, incites, promotes, or otherwise assists the commission of a major crime." Major crimes are defined as anything involving violence, domestic, or international terrorism, or a "serious drug offense."

For each suspicious post, services must submit a Suspicious Transmission Activity Report (STAR) within 30 days, providing the user's name, location, and other identifying information, as well as any relevant metadata.

Those submitting the user surveillance reports would henceforth be barred from talking about or even acknowledging the existence of them. STARs would also be exempt from Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests.

The bill, which comes amid renewed calls to stamp out domestic terrorism after the Capitol riot, is impressive in managing to be both completely invasive and utterly unconcerned with even appearing to be about protection, since the remedy—report within 30 days—would hardly help stop the commission of crimes. If we were talking about the Capitol riot, for instance, companies who still hadn't reported posts about it would be OK.

The bill would set up a massive new system of intense user monitoring and reporting that would lead to more perfectly innocent people getting booted from internet platforms. It would provide the government with a new tool to punish disfavored tech companies, and it would enlist all digital service providers to be cops in the failed post-9/11 war on terror and the drug war.

The bill states that some posts facilitating crimes require a STAR to be filed immediately, though it's vague about what these are (any "suspicious transmission that requires immediate attention" requires being reported immediately). The first example it provides is "an active sale or solicitation of sale of drugs."

A new federal agency would handle the suspicious activity reports—which could also be submitted by any individual, not just tech companies.

An easy, anonymous, online way for people to flag each other's social media accounts for the Department of Justice—what could go wrong? (Insert all the eye rolls here.)

Anyone with experience on social media now knows how hyperbolic people can be in describing threatening behavior, how gleeful folks can be in snitching on those they deem unenlightened, and how easy it can be for trolls, abusers, and other ne'er-do-wells to weaponize reporting systems against disliked individuals or marginalized groups. The See Something, Say Something Online Act would put this on steroids—all while ensuring such a glut of reports, including many that are frivolous, politically motivated, or otherwise disingenuous, that federal agents would still be searching for needles in haystacks.

Worse than simply overloading the system, it would make federal agents investigate all sorts of ordinary Americans for harmless comments. It also seems likely to make finding actual terrorists and violent criminals even more difficult.


FREE MINDS

Drug decriminalization takes effect in Oregon. Residents of the state voted in November to decriminalize small amounts of drugs including heroin, LSD, and meth. "Today, the first domino of our cruel and inhumane war on drugs has fallen, setting off what we expect to be a cascade of other efforts centering health over criminalization," Kassandra Frederique, executive director of Drug Policy Alliance, said in a statement, continuing:

For the first time in at least half a century, one place in the United States—Oregon— will show us that we can give people help without punishing them. This law is meant to protect people against persecution, harassment and criminalization at the hands of the state for using drugs and instead given access to the supports they need. Over the last year, we have been painfully reminded of the harms that come from drug war policing and the absence of necessary health services and other support systems in our communities. Today, Oregon shows us a better, more just world is possible.


FREE MARKETS

Kroger closes two grocery stores in Long Beach, California, after the city instituted a new hazard pay rule. "Kroger, which owns several supermarket chains, said Monday it would close two stores in Long Beach in response to city rules mandating an extra $4 an hour in 'hero pay' for grocery workers during the COVID-19 pandemic," reports the Los Angeles Times. The Ralphs and Food 4 Less stores that will be closed now employ about 200 people, it says.

Here's Kroger's statement:

This misguided action by the Long Beach City Council oversteps the traditional bargaining process and applies to some, but not all, grocery workers in the city. The irreparable harm that will come to employees and local citizens as a direct result of the City of Long Beach's attempt to pick winners and losers, is deeply unfortunate. We are truly saddened that our associates and customers will ultimately be the real victims of the city council's actions.

Other cities in California, including Los Angeles, Santa Monica, and Oakland, are considering hazard pay proposals similar to the one in Long Beach.


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    How they inevitably fuck this up should be interesting.

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    2. “efforts centering health over criminalization”

      Move it from the jurisdiction of the police state over to the purview of the nanny state.

      1. ^This^

        Instead of sending cops after drug users they’ll send over a social worker. And the first time some meth head kills a social worker they’ll start sending over a social worker and a cop or two (dozen). And then when some of the meth heads behave violently they still get arrested (the ones that aren’t shot) and end up in prison anyway. But at least it’ll be for a violent crime instead of non-violent drug offenses. Progress!

        1. Coming soon to Democrat stronghold jurisdictions near you: powerful social workers unions that will secure huge pensions for social workers.

          1. Don’t forget the qualified immunity that comes with.

            1. The social workers will need to be armed, for their own safety. They will be authorized to shoot dogs, too.

        2. But at least it’ll be for a violent crime instead of non-violent drug offenses. Progress!

          Uh, not to get too libertarian-y or whatever, but isn’t that the goal? The unarmed public servant shows up occasionally to make sure there isn’t a pile of bodies, dead from ODs and toxic adjuvants, stuffed under the floor boards and if you can’t avoid punching someone in the face long enough for them to make sure you aren’t killing people, you should go to prison or a rehab clinic or something.

          1. To clarify, I applaud the voters in Oregon for the decriminalization. However, I find the quoted statement of Kassandra Frederique very troubling. This appears to be a step in a larger effort, not to scale back the power and pervasiveness of the state over the individual, but simply to create a kinder, gentler omnipotent state. What could go wrong?

      2. “”Move it from the jurisdiction of the police state over to the purview of the nanny state.””

        Exactly.

        The nanny state will be backed up by the police state. If the nanny state says you must go to rehab and you tell them to fuck off. Who are they going to call?

        1. The nanny state *is* a police state.

    3. Who knew Oregon would turn out to be the most libertarian state?

  3. Black Lives Matter has been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize.

    Norwegians set on making their prize an absolute joke.

    1. Too late. It has gone the way of the PUlitzer.

    2. The Mostly Peace Prize.

      1. The Fiery But Mostly Peaceful Prize

        1. Nice one. I award you 100 internet points. Don’t spend them all in one place.

    3. Don’t blame the Norwegians, they just know what happens if BLM doesn’t get its way.

      1. Nice peace prize. Shame if something happened to it.

      2. They would know a thing or two about looting, wouldn’t they?

      3. Won’t they be surprised when BLM starts burning their cities anyway.

    4. They did that when they awarded one to Yasser Arafat. And Al Gore… And Barack Obama…

      1. Could be they are gas-lighting us, given that sly Viking sense of humor.

        1. If they were Danish I’d say they were just trolling us, but they’re Norwegians so I’m not sure what to think. Maybe that’s the point, keep people confused?

    5. Jared Kushner was also nominated. Norway doesn’t do the nominations.

      1. Yeah, I don’t think it’s hard to get nominated. I wouldn’t be surprised to see BLM get it, though. Even though it would be ridiculous.

        1. Now that they’ve been nominated it would be racist not to give it to them.

          1. Is it racist if we don’t eat the black guy?

            Well shit, Charlie, now it is!

        2. How does “just an idea” receive a prize?

          1. A nomination is just an idea of a prize.

      2. And so did Stacey Abrahms.

  4. Kroger closes two grocery stores in Long Beach, California, after the city instituted a new hazard pay rule.

    It’s not Long Beach’s fault now that heroes are out of a job and residents are out of a place to shop. Who could have foreseen market forces?

    1. They forgot to make it illegal to close your business.

      1. Just a matter of time.

        1. lol that happened decades ago

          many cities will tell corps something like “if you want to keep your profitable business in Location X, you must also agree to keep open your unprofitable business in Location Y for social justice”

          1. “”you must also agree to keep open your unprofitable business in Location Y for social justice”””

            But the government will fund you so you break even. As longs as you follow the long list of rules and give shares of your business to the state.

      2. Stop giving them ideas.

      3. in California you do have to give notice that you are closing when you have a certain number of employes. so yes its like getting permission to close

    2. After seeing this rousing success at killing jobs, the rest of CA is now looking to follow suit.

    3. Meh, everyone I know in Long Beach shops in OC anyway so they can have bags and save several percent in sales tax.

  5. “Black Lives Matter has been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize.”

    If you even suggest they don’t deserve it, you’re an alt-right white supremacist. It would be the most deserving win since Barack Obama.

    #BLM

    1. It would be the most deserving win since Barack Obama.

      Ouch! Good burn!

    2. “Shall we give the peace prize to paid rioters who spent eight months burning and looting cities, or shall we give it to the guy who ended the Afghan war and brought peace to the Balkans and the Middle East?”

      If didn’t pick Black Lives Matter, then you’re not familiar with the global establishment.
      Acceptable alternative choice, the Chinese Communist Party for saving the planet from the Uighur threat.

      1. Bombs aren’t really war! No-fly zones don’t count either!

        Except for when Trump uses them. Then they’re war crimes.

      2. Acceptable alternative choice, the Chinese Communist Party for saving the planet from the COVID threat.

        Fixed. We do not talk about Whinnie the Pooh and we do not talk about the Uighurs.

      3. old news

        A group of academics and advocates plan to nominate Chinese president Xi Jinping and his Taiwanese counterpart Ma Ying-jeou for the 2016 Nobel Peace Prize, in the wake of the first-ever meeting between the pair in Singapore this November.

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  7. JesseAZ and the rest of his Mean Girls, who are obsessed with me, will probably be along shortly to say Reason supports this act.

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      IMPOSTER!!!

    2. Can a parody of sarcasmic exist that isn’t continuously in violation of Poe’s Law?

      1. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

        1. So you admit it is an exact imitation.

          1. LMAO

          2. It looks like ridicule to me, but I’ll let sarc be right this one time.

  8. <i.Brown University cryptographers envision a gun registry system "that can be deployed nationally while also being fully encrypted and decentralized."

    It’s pretty decentralized now. I know how many guns I own.

    1. I don’t own any guns. They all got stolen or fell in the lake or something last year I think.

      1. Quick. Go out and buy and register a gun. A cheap bolt action .22 is best.
        You need to have a sacrifice to give the dems when they come for your guns. I kept the Daisy .22 I used to teach my son to shoot for just that purpose.

        1. Good idea. Might be even better if it was a broken one.

        2. I’ve seriously considered that; built an M4orgery on the cheap [already had the receiver I paid $29.99 couple years back + Delton kit for $380] and wondered if that would be my “registered gun” so I could still shoot an AR while it’s relatives slept it out in Obama tubes; but decided to gift it to my son in law.

        3. That maybe a worthwhile investment if a buyback program comes around.
          Get a rusty breech loader that was hanging in a barn for thirty years. When Joe wants to buy it from you, he’ll just be financing your new, functional rifle.

          1. Walking the lines at buyback programs are a great way to get a deal on a new firearm.

            1. I didn’t think of that…

              Spontaneous gun markets! The invisible hand at work!

          2. LOL, reminds me of the buybacks in Cali many moons ago. IIRC you could get a brand new SKS for under $100 and walk it to the buyback site and just about double your money when you turned it in. It wasn’t long before the $70 Norincos disappeared from the shelves of every shop. Ah the good old days.

        4. Why bolt action? Why not an AR7, or a 10/22, or a Marlin Model 60?

          1. Why are you crying about what type of gun he suggested?

          2. Bolt action is the least useful on most applications. Why “give” the feds a useful device?

            1. 22 bolt actions and some shotguns are the cheapest to get that said i like my 22 bolt action hope to teach the kids with it and it more accurate than the semi auto 22

              1. I just told you no on the bolt action. Why aren’t you listening to me?!

              2. Find an old Marlin Model 60 with the 16 round tube. Semi-auto and damn accurate. Even hickock45 likes them.

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                  He liked it so much he did two videos.

                  1. Sarc, he’s talking about getting a gun to offer as a sacrificial lamb to the state. The magazine size and accuracy are irrelevant.

                    1. He’s trying to fit in again. It’s sad.

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                    3. What is up. fellow teenagers

            2. Good point.

    2. Go fuck yourself, Brown.

      Gun registries are shopping lists for gun banners. That’s all they’re good for. They don’t do a damned thing to prevent violent crime.

    3. It’s pretty decentralized now. I know how many guns I own.

      Don’t worry. Your guns will be safe and beyond the reach of government control because the registry will be encrypted and distributed. Thus spake crypto.

      Also, oppose the fiat, buy bitcoin.

    4. It sounds down right reasonable when compared to HR 127.

      No, I don’t believe in coincidences, why do you ask?

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  10. Black Lives Matter has been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize.

    Well, a Nobel Mostly Peace Prize, anyway.

    1. It seem that these awards have become little more than racial participation trophies. Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize just for being elected, and yet what he inherited [Afghanistan] continued throughout his two terms, wars were started in Syria and Libya, military actions were taken in Somalia and Yemen, and drones were launched all over Pakistan.

      Let it rot.

      1. Weren’t they mostly peaceful drones? Over 99% of the time they weren’t bombing anything.

    2. Meh, peace prize, dumpster fire, peace prize for a dumpster fire, it’s all the same thing these days.

  11. “A new federal agency would handle the suspicious activity reports—which could also be submitted by any individual, not just tech companies.”

    If only someone could have put two and two together and figured out that an emotionally fragile society raised to believe that protecting people’s feelings is more important than preserving their freedom would lead to this ….

    1. They’re gonna have a field day on this board.

  12. So, people intent on major crimes just cheerfully blab about it on the internet? Methinks the intent is to simply redefine what a “crime” is, e.g. protesting our Dear Leaders in Washington D.C. will become a “crime”.

    1. A crime is anything that impugns the integrity of our unerring government, in any way. And, even if it does not, it is still a crime because it could lead to people impugning the government in the future. Speech is a gateway crime.

      Solzhenitsyn wrote of Article 58 of the Soviet Penal Code as follows:

      “One can find more epithets in praise of this article than Turgenev once assembled to praise the Russian language, or Nekrasov to praise Mother Russia: great, powerful, abundant, highly ramified, multiform, wide sweeping 58, which summed up the world not so much through the exact terms of its sections as in their extended dialectical interpretation.

      Who among us has not experienced its all-encompassing embrace? In all truth, there is no step, thought, action, or lack of action under the heavens which could not be punished by the heavy hand of Article 58.”

      1. LOL, the Democrats will no doubt revive the old Soviet crime of “hooliganism”.

    2. So, people intent on major crimes just cheerfully blab about it on the internet?

      Sure, Antifa does it all the time, they just don’t get prosecuted for it.

      1. That’s because it requires a *government official* to determine that it “commits, facilitates, incites, promotes, or otherwise assists the commission of a major crime.” Any crimes committed for the furtherance if the policy goals of the unelected bureaucracy get to have a free pass.

    3. See the Politico article on what Joe Biden could learn from Ulysses Grant on putting down violent insurrections:

      https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/01/30/what-ulysses-grant-can-teach-joe-biden-about-putting-down-violent-insurrections-463976?utm_source=pocket-newtab

      Not sure if they are advising Biden to burn Atlanta to the ground, or if that will happen on its own.

      1. Next up, “What restaurant owners who have been forced to close can learn from Colonials vs. Taxmen in the 1700s.”

      2. Man, the authoritarian thirstiness just drips through the article:

        Grant’s approach relied on a combination of brute military force and a drastic curtailment of civil liberties, yet it nevertheless has relevance for the current moment and contains lessons for lawmakers who fear that January 6 might have been only the first of widespread attacks on the government and elected officials at all levels, across large swaths of the nation. Officials in our current era have many more legal tools at their disposal to combat such terrorism. But as Grant’s experience shows, it’s not just the tools that count; rather, it’s the willingness to persist in the fight that will likely decide whether these counter-terrorism efforts actually succeed.

        The Red Guard-like Maoism pervading through modern left-liberalism is on full display here.

        1. I keep seeing this:

          …lawmakers who fear that January 6 might have been only the first of widespread attacks on the government and elected officials at all levels, across large swaths of the nation….

          But have yet to see any other attack on government facilities outside of those perpetrated by BLM & AntiFa. It’s been 4 weeks now – time to move on from irrational fears.

  13. How many more people will SleepyJoe murder with his inaction on the China virus problem?

    1. Biden is literally shutting down the virus as we speak. Exactly as he promised during the campaign.

      #LibertariansForBiden

      1. It’s funny you connected the name SleepyJoe to Biden.

  14. I’m still furious about those alt-right GamerGate reddit trolls who orchestrated an act of financial terrorism last week. Just when Biden took office and things were improving for billionaires like Reason.com’s benefactor Charles Koch, they have to endure this setback.

    #InDefenseOfBillionaires

    1. Charles Koch losing his shirt and the Reason writers being forced to play libertarian again for fundraising purposes, would be hilarious.

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  16. “Suspicious” content is defined as any post, private message, comment, tag, transaction, or “any other user-generated content or transmission” that government officials later determine “commits, facilitates, incites, promotes, or otherwise assists the commission of a major crime.”

    If the “See Something, Say Something Online Act of 2020” (apparently shortenable to “SS, SS”) becomes law, one imagines the end of H&R.

    1. I know the Senate moves slowly, but nothing has happened with this bill since September, according to congress.gov.

      1. don’t worry Trumps gone it will move a lot faster now

    2. Easy. Just report every post. Every single post.
      ” … and I’m seriously considering making up some shit.”

    3. Can we figure out how to make this SSDD instead?

    4. woodchipping is but a minor crime

  17. I think that if I were required to do this I would just automate the process and simply submit a report for every post and DM, etc.

    Just drown them in reports.

    1. Good thing it’s not law already, or your comment would be determined to have assisted the commission of a major crime.

    2. “Spamming reports under Section 230 is a crime, in and of itself, carrying a minimum sentence of ten years.”

      In Stalin’s day, they called them “tenners.” If you took a shit in the morning, you earned yourself a tenner.

    3. Ever hear of computers?
      No one will ever read those reports, they will go into a data base to be searched when they pick a target.
      Step one is pick a target, someone who has (or may have) an evil thought about the feds.
      Then search the reports and pick two or more items to show a pattern of seditious activity.
      Then lock them up.

      1. Ding ding ding!

        They don’t want to spy on you for what you’re doing NOW, they want to spy on you so they have ammo for when you do something in the future.

        1. Like run for office with the wrong beliefs.

          1. Or get nominated for the Supreme Court (hey, it could happen)

            1. Both of you are correct.

    4. Drowning them in reports just gives them the cover to selectively enforce those reports while simultaneously giving the an excuse for more funding and manpower while also simultaneously giving politicians another problem to solve with another federal police force in the form of far-right extremist domestic terrorist white supremacist insurrectionists undermining our national security by over reporting.

      1. They don’t need the cover. The selective enforcement is the whole damn point.

        1. Yeah the days of needing cover are passed us. Different laws and rules for different people is acceptable now to enough of the population that they’re doing it out in the open.

          1. “No bad tactics, only bad targets.”

        2. They don’t need the cover, just like they didn’t need the cover of a mostly peaceful protest to start building their police state, but they’ll take the cover, just like they took the cover of a mostly peaceful protest to start building their police state.

      2. They’re going to selectively enforce anyway.

        And it’s a government system – it’ll break under even moderate stress.

  18. LOL, BLM gets nominated for a peace prize from a nation without any black people.

    Ironic, I’d say, before one even considers the lack of peace coming from that sector.

    1. But what could be more peaceful than a nation without families?

      1. Well, on Thanksgiving Day anyway.

  19. https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1356170437403807747?s=19

    Should be international news:

    An #antifa group sieged a Red Lion hotel in Olympia, WA, forcing staff to flee for their lives & guests in 40 rooms had to shelter in place. The antifa brought hatchets, knives & other weapons to the siege. City statement:

    1. Local story ….. ::yawn::

      1. This is called “democracy in action.” Identical behavior on the part of crackers is call an insurrection.

    2. https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1356383508122509313?s=19

      Breaking: BLM rioters are starting to break apart the barricade around the Rochester police station.

      1. In a mostly peaceful fashion.

    3. Obviously the solution is to put high fences and National Guardspeople around all hotels and police stations.

      1. That’s just for the aristocracy. The peasants can (and do) burn for all they care.

        1. The second someone from BLM walks into Granny Winebox’s office and sits in her chair, is the moment the riots end.

      2. As long as all the ‘guardspeople’ have the right political inclination. Better start the vetting now.

      3. Fences and guns only work for the right people. Just ask the McCloskeys.

    4. Antifa’s just an idea. MAGA, on the other hand…

    5. Only white crackers riot; this is known.

      1. Have you seen these antifa honkeys? gtfoh with that.

    6. Do you think they’re jealous of all the national attention the Capitol rioters got, and are still getting a month later after one lousy riot?

      Maybe they’re going to escalate.

    7. I’m thoroughly confused. Are people being rousted out of a motel, imprisoned in a motel, or what? And why?

      1. Just turn on the news, they’ll explain it for you.

        Or maybe it will be in the roundup tomorrow?

  20. In his nomination letter, Petter Eide, a Socialist Left member of the Storting, Norway’s parliament, wrote that he had nominated Black Lives Matter “for their struggle against racism and racially motivated violence.”

    You know, Peter, that quote can taken in more than one way.

    1. Feature, not a bug.

    2. Holy shit. How stark raving, to the Left of Mao, do you have to be in order to be a politician of the Socialist Left in Norway?

  21. Those submitting the user surveillance reports would henceforth be barred from talking about or even acknowledging the existence of them. STARs would also be exempt from Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests.
    I just love the free and open society we are creating.

    1. introduced by Sen. Joe Manchin (D–W.Va.) and co-sponsored by Sen. John Cornyn (R–Texas)

      And it’s a *bipartisan* creation!

      1. That’s how you know it’s doubleplusgood. /sarc

        1. I question your sarc tag – – – – – –

    2. would it even be legal to be exempt if from FOIA request and how many other laws are exempt from FOIA? Why not make everything exempt thus making the law useless.

      1. I’m not sure ANY of the law is legal.

        From what I understand, laws that have the effect of chilling speech are every bit contra to the 1A as laws specifically outlawing certain speech.

        And the naryral consequence of this law would be literally everyone having to temper their speech for fear of being reported.

  22. “See Something Say Something” sounds better in the original East German.

    1. Is that related to West English?

      1. Waahh! I was just making a joke. Don’t make fun of me for not realizing German and West German aren’t two different languages! Waahhh!

        1. get help

          1. “[G]et help”

            In East German, please.

        2. Lol.

    1. I’m sure Reason will start screaming about obstruction of justice any moment now…

      1. 3, 2, 1… …. …. No wait, lets try again. 3, 2, 1… …. …………………………… 3, 2, 1? ……. Hello? ….. Reason? …… Anyone there? …

        1. Is that the countdown for Reason? Or the countdown for the Sarcastic guy to point out the JesseAZ guy has a hobby horse he doesn’t get to ride because Reason?

  23. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/02/01/enemies_of_the_state_vs_enemies_of_the_people_145145.html

    I didn’t declare war on the establishment; it declared war on me.

    It declared war on me when it supported energy policies that could enrich Saudi Arabia and Russia and would cost me more money at the gas pump or on my power bill.

    It declared war on me when it told me my ideas weren’t worthy of debate and discussion or that they were even so dangerous they couldn’t be shared publicly.

    It declared war on me when it used the police powers of the FBI and CIA to first spy on a presidential candidate and then worked to undermine the administration of that candidate after he was elected.

    It declared war on me when it told me my religious beliefs did not deserve the protection of the First Amendment.

    It declared war on me when it told me boys could compete against girls in high school sports and that they could shower together afterwards.

    It declared war on me when it offered citizenship to illegal aliens and shipped American jobs to China.

    It declared war on me when it mocked the usefulness of a wall on the Mexican border and simultaneously put up a razor-wire fence around the Capitol.

    It declared war on me when it tried to defund the police so that millions of Americans would be left defenseless against mobs from antifa and Black Lives Matter.

    It declared war on me when it said America was never great.

    It declared war on me when it told my children they are not good enough because they are white.

    It declared war on me when it said that defending the Constitution’s rules on federal elections is sedition.

    It declared war on me when it told me that I was a domestic terrorist if I didn’t believe the government’s official pronouncements about elections, about free speech, and about right and wrong.

    Let’s just say it plainly: The establishment declared war on me and on all conservative Americans when it decided that leftist orthodoxy was more important than the Constitution.

    1. Don’t believe me? Fine, why should you believe a Trump supporter? You’ve been indoctrinated by the national media, Big Tech oligarchs, the Democratic Party, and academic elites to believe without questioning that people like me can’t be trusted. But you don’t have to take my word for it.

      Listen instead to John Brennan, the former CIA director under President Obama, who speaks authoritatively for the Deep State:

      He said on MSNBC that “the members of the Biden team who have been nominated or have been appointed, are now moving in laser-like fashion to try to uncover as much as they can about what looks very similar to insurgency movements that we’ve seen overseas, where they germinate in different parts of the country and they gain strength and it brings together an unholy alliance frequently of religious extremists, authoritarians, fascists, bigots, racists, nativists, even libertarians.”

      This “guilt by labeling” is the antithesis of fair play or justice. It is a convenient mechanism for the ruling class to herd people into identity clusters so that individual rights can be supplanted by group responsibility. If this reminds you of China’s Cultural Revolution, you are not wrong. The ruling class wants you to conform, confirm and comply. If you step outside the lines, be prepared to be shamed, silenced and ostracized.

      A shocking example was provided Wednesday when Douglass Mackey of Delray Beach, Fla., was arrested for creating memes that allegedly misled voters in 2016 to think they could vote by texting instead of by actually going to the polls. This is the equivalent of arresting Sacha Baron Cohen for exposing the gullibility of the rich and famous. The FBI offered no evidence that Mackey actually convinced anyone not to vote, but even if it did, so what? Would you rather live in a country where the FBI is hunting down pranksters — four years after the supposed transgression — or a country where voters are expected to be able to recognize a joke when they see one?

      But nothing can be taken for granted any more. The people — and even their representatives and senators — are considered enemies of the state because they hold opinions that don’t meet the standards of Joe Biden or (this is even scarier!) Jake Tapper.

      No wonder the people are starting to rise up and rebel against the plutocracy.

      It’s not “We the Oligarchs” who are the source of power in the Constitution, but “We the People,” yet the ruling establishment has forgotten that.

      If people like Donald Trump and Douglass Mackey are deemed to be “enemies of the state,” then those who would suppress them and their freedoms must be considered “enemies of the people.”

      A house divided against itself cannot long stand, but if there is to be a truce it will not come from submission, but from a recognition that all people are created equal, that they all have certain inalienable rights, and that among those are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Those words were worth fighting for once. Are they worth fighting for today?

      I don’t know, but I do know this: If Americans can’t have liberty, we can’t have America either – at least not one that is distinguishable from China. The time has come to make a choice.

      1. I don’t know how long people have been peddling this shit, but I first came across it in the 80s.

        Lighten up and live your life, man. You can’t do anything about anything, but you can land yourself on lists or worse.

        Seriously. The Serenity Prayer isn’t just for alcoholics.

        1. “Lighten up and live your life, man”

          How would you say that in East German?

          1. Cooler?

            (Granted my German is mostly based on WW2 films)

            1. You mean your East German …

              1. Yes, my West German is spot on.

          2. I know nothing! Or Hogan!

        2. Is this your new attempt at going back to sanctimonious behavior?

          1. He is embarking on a new road in his ever futile attempt to find true sarcasm. Perhaps, one day, just like Forrest Gump, he’ll break right through the metal restraints that crippled him, run furiously toward the horizon, and grow up to be retarded.

            1. But not full retarded. You never go full retard.

        3. “The Serenity Prayer isn’t just for alcoholics.”

          Thanks for sharing it with the rest of us.

      2. But you’re a Republican dude. Y’all haven’t won the popular vote in decades more or less and so by definition you just don’t represent the “people” and you mfers constantly try to disenfranchise people. Hell you wanted to throw out the votes of the American people to keep a corrupt billionaire in office. And what did that devotion get you? Trump didn’t pardon a single one of the true believers. He talked those people into storming the Capitol and supported it while it was happening and then turned 180 and sold y’all out. You deserve it but god damn I didn’t think you’d enjoy getting fucked by Trump.

        1. Define “American people.”

          1. Everyone except you.

            1. In East German, please.

              1. This meme is even better than H02.

                1. They set themselves up to be walking punchlines, and then complain when everyone obliges.

                  1. I’ll be around.

        2. Y’all haven’t won the popular vote in decades

          Lol, from Tammany Hall to the Chicago Machine to Pennsylvania, there isn’t an election your party hasn’t fixed.

          The only reason Trump won in 2016 was because he unexpectedly blew past even your fraudulent additions to the pot.
          His vote total was even higher (by at least 7 million) in 2020, which is why so many extra votes were manufactured, that after 150 years of decline you had one of the highest voter turnouts in American history.

          That’s why you’ve filled DC with troops, barricades and razor wire, because that’s what coup leaders do when they don’t have popular support.

          1. You got it completely correct.
            This is a coup. It is a fascist takeover. So we better get politically involved in how our elections go or we will get rolled again in 2022.

        3. I suppose 2010 was, technically, “decades” ago

          1.1 decades

          Republicans won the nationwide popular vote for the House of Representatives by a margin of 6.8 points and picked up 63 seats, taking control of the chamber for the first time since the 2006 elections.

        4. He talked those people into storming the Capitol

          shitthatdidnthappen.txt

          and sold y’all out

          Unless you’re actually from the South, stop talking like someone who lives there. Adopting their patois doesn’t make you sound more authentic or sane.

        5. lol they weren’t “storming the Capitol” they were “mostly peaceful protest”ing vote fraud

      3. love this quote from the feds:

        “You’re allowed to lie to convince someone not to vote for Hillary Clinton,” he said. “But you’re not allowed to lie to block someone from voting for Hillary Clinton.”

        Got that?

        1. Unless you turn your lie into a meme.

          1. surely there were no misleading left-wing memes

            I mean other than the ones they gave out Pulitzers for

      4. Well said! Thank you.

  24. What about sacasmic? Am I the first to bring him up?
    I know how much he enjoys it.

    1. The poor drunk’s been starved for attention ever since his wife left him and his kid started ignoring him.

    2. By ridiculing him you’re really just showing how cool you think he is, right?

  25. Worse than simply overloading the system, it would make federal agents investigate all sorts of ordinary Americans for harmless comments. It also seems likely to make finding actual terrorists and violent criminals even more difficult.

    You’re stupid. It doesn’t *make* them investigate ordinary Americans, it *allows* them to investigate ordinary Americans. Which is the whole point. It’s got nothing to do with finding actual terrorists and violent criminals, it’s got to do with keeping your goddamn mouth shut if you knows what’s good for you, peasant.

  26. https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1356402332267925504?s=19

    I adore Joe Biden. But his reference to “women” is pure misogyny.

    If he can’t call us “bleeders” then he’s no better than Trump.

    1. Twitter looks like everyone ate a dictionary and then started vomiting up words.

      1. “…ate a dictionary and then started vomiting up words.”

        That is very good; very good indeed. Now part of my personal lexicon.

      2. You really don’t know about the Titania McGrath account?

        It’s an SJW parody account that inevitably ends up predicting exactly what the left-liberal establishment will support and promote.

        1. To be fair, it’s hard to tell that it’s satire and not just slightly ahead of the curve.

          1. Poe’s Law looms large.

        2. I didn’t know. And now I have sprayed several separate ounces of coffee onto my keyboard, reading it.
          My god, it’s full of stars!

          1. I miss the Godfrey Elfwick account the most, although he was more cheeky and less full-on satire. That dude literally fooled the BBC into doing an interview with him, and was one of the alt-right’s greatest Twitter shitposters.

            I think the Titania McGrath account hasn’t been nuked yet because the guy writing it is so in tune with how these people really think.

  27. https://twitter.com/LEBassett/status/1356424774453518338?s=19

    AOC just broke into tears on Instagram live and said she’s a survivor of sexual assault, and the Republicans telling her to “just move on” from the attack on the Capitol, in which her life was threatened, are using abusers’ tactics.

    1. Let, it, rot.

      These fools are just going to have to proceed to their logical termination; the point at which nonsense becomes so obvious even they cannot deny it without descending into a state of virtual schizophrenia.

    2. So wait, are we Believing All Women again or are we still want Due Process For Innocent Men? I can’t keep up anymore.

      1. What letter is after AOC’s name? That should clear it up for you.

      2. Just put a bullet in her as she’s climbing through the window, say you feared for your life, and move on. It’s not like she’s a veteran or a member of the National Guard or anything.

    3. The whole point of protesting is to make ppl uncomfortable.

      Activists take that discomfort w/ the status quo & advocate for concrete policy changes. Popular support often starts small & grows.

      To folks who complain protest demands make others uncomfortable… that’s the point.

      — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) December 2, 2020

      the best part is she asked Twitter to ban anyone who shared her Tweet

      1. emocratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York said certain communities, including ones within the United States, have no other option that to riot if they are marginalized.

        Ocasio Cortez made the comments during a radio interview with New York’s Hot 97 Tuesday, several weeks after an armed, self-described “Antifa” man attacked an ICE detention facility in Washington state using similar language to hers in his manifesto.

        Read more: Top Democrats shift blame to Trump after armed man is killed attacking ICE detention center

        “Once you have a group that is marginalized,” Ocasio-Cortez said while discussing conflicts in Israel, “Once someone doesn’t have access to clean water, they have no choice but to riot.”

        1. AOC alone is going to throw several haybales on the stack

          “There were QAnon and white supremacist sympathizers and, frankly, white supremacist members of Congress in that extraction point who I know and who I have felt would disclose my location and would create opportunities to allow me to be hurt, kidnapped, et cetera,” explained Ocasio-Cortez. “So I didn’t even feel safe around other members of Congress.”

          AOC is thisclose to openly encouraging her supporters to round up her fellow Republicans and shoot them. Again.

          Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.) on Monday night said that Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) “shouldn’t condone” her supporters who brought up the 2017 shooting that seriously injured the minority whip in order to berate him online.

          1. That this dumb bitch actually believes that other Congressmembers would “reveal her location” while a bunch of blue-collar LARPers were wandering around the Capitol shows just how much she’s bought in to her own press, and how self-involved she really is.

            Does she even fucking realize how many times people in Congress get death threats, especially now that her fellow travelers can do it on Twitter without fear of repercussions? Shit, just look at how many leftists still promote the guy who put Rand Paul in the hospital.

            Every time a leftist accuses someone of something bad, they are either projecting or their own side has already been doing it. Every fucking time. And Millennial leftists like AOC are so emotionally retarded after decades of being indulged by their parents and the academic complex, they don’t even have the self-awareness to realize they’re doing it. At least the New Left understood that they were being total hypocrites by adopting “it’s okay when we do it” as a key tenet of their ideology; they just didn’t care. The Millennials and late-stage Gen-X politicians aren’t even at that level of maturity.

            1. Of course she doesn’t believe it, she just knows it plays well.

              She is an intellectually vapid schemer who ran on a left-populist platform, then turned around and learned the grift the minute she got elected.

              She’s my number one pick for ‘smart’ populist who learns what not to do from Trump. Or, as I like to call her, Latinx Stalin.

          2. And when someone actually does hurt a Republican congressman, I wonder how the narrative will shift. It won’t be “INSURRECTION!!”, and the media won’t even think of blaming her for her violent rhetoric.

            1. you mean when anti-fascists bravely prevent an imminent insurrection by QAnon white supremacists?

              clearly Trump’s fault

    4. To be fair, the Republicans did murder her. But she got better.

  28. a gun registry system “that can be deployed nationally while also being fully encrypted and decentralized

    A fully encrypted and decentralized national gun registry?

    *neolibertarians masturbate furiously*

    1. I know, there’s just so many more places to lie about how many guns I have instead of just one central database.

  29. A new federal agency would handle the suspicious activity reports—which could also be submitted by any individual, not just tech companies.

    Something something… “jobs created or saved”… mumble mumble…

  30. The See Something, Say Something Online Act would put this on steroids—all while ensuring such a glut of reports, including many that are frivolous, politically motivated, or otherwise disingenuous, that federal agents would still be searching for needles in haystacks.

    *Archer voice* Wait, I had something for this… something about “collecting the whole haystack…”*

    * Didn’t some asshole (I think James Clapper, probably) say something about having to collect the whole haystack in order to find the needle in “defense” of the metadata collection that Edward Snowden revealed?

    1. lol this take is astonishingly naive

      the Feds won’t sift the haystack for dangerous terrorist needles

      they will sift it for their political enemies

      the bigger the haystack, the better

      1. Yeah, I know that and you know that, but they have to come up with some excuse to collect “the whole haystack” and there’s other people dumb enough to believe their horseshit.

  31. Black Lives Matter has been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize.

    BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!11!!!!!1!!!!!!!

    As if we needed any more proof that we live in clown world and the inmates are running the asylum.

    1. The great philosopher Kris Kristofferson said it well decades ago:

      It’s time for truth the barker said and poured his self a beer
      Oh yeah forsooth said Ben the Geek but who’ll be left to hear
      They’ve driven off the fools and saints and now they’ve stole the show
      It’s all a bloody circus mates and clowns are in control.

  32. “Suspicious” content is defined as any post, private message, comment, tag, transaction, or “any other user-generated content or transmission” that government officials later determine “commits, facilitates, incites, promotes, or otherwise assists the commission of a major crime.” Major crimes are defined as anything involving violence, domestic, or international terrorism, or a “serious drug offense.”
    ——-
    We already know how that will be interpreted. Supported Trump? Flagged for incitement of insurrection! Set a federal building on fire with your antifa pals? We admire your passion for racial justice.

    Your familiy took millions from China? Welcome to the White House, Mr. Biden! Forged a FISA warrant against Trump? No jail time for you, Clinesmith! Led an attempted FBI coup against Trump? The Biden administration will hire your spouse, Mr. Strzok, and your team will get off scot-free!

    Oh, but Obama didn’t like you? You’re going to jail, Flynn.

    All Calvinball, all the time.

    Hitler didn’t order millions of Jews to be killed. He didn’t have to.

    1. That’s why I laugh when conservatives and libertarians bring up Scotus and the Constitution like they still matter. They don’t.

      America had a coup last November, and any laws getting in the way of the political establishment and the clerisy are worth as much as used toilet paper.
      2021 is the year they clean house and cement power, and you’re never going to see a genuine election again.

    2. “Your familiy took millions from China? Welcome to the White House, Mr. Biden! Forged a FISA warrant against Trump? No jail time for you, Clinesmith! Led an attempted FBI coup against Trump? The Biden administration will hire your spouse, Mr. Strzok, and your team will get off scot-free!”

      I guess Trump was derelict, then, in not having DOJ do something to these criminals? I guess he was either unprepared to be president or was “in” on the whole thing.

      1. Dude he got impeached for asking about Ukraine corruption involving Biden. FFS you can’t be this naive.

        1. The impeachment bullshit didn’t make him impotent did it?

      2. b/c of the civil service structure Trump could only have removed the threat to himself (in his own branch of government, mind you) by seizing extrajudicial dictatorial powers for which there was no political or legal support… we are all very fortunate he did not attempt to do so

        the FBI put our country in a very dangerous place

        1. remember, the same FBI that forged warrants to remove Trump also decided (under Trump!) it could not investigate Biden’s corruption during an election

          Calvinball all the way down

  33. So you’re saying if I shove Manchin and Cornyn through a rusty woodchipper, and Reason is slow to file a STAR report, they can get in trouble? Gosh. Better make sure that woodchipper is well oiled and polished.

    1. Really shows you how things have changed since L’Affaire Woodchipper back in 2015, doesn’t it?

  34. Major crimes are defined as anything involving violence, domestic, or international terrorism, or a “serious drug offense.”

    ENB is being modest again. In the woke 21st century, truly major crimes must include anything perceived as racist, sexist, ablist, or classist. Rule of thumb: if something you said or did made someone lower on the privilege ladder feel sad, you have committed a crime against humanity, and should be reported.

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      1. sounds a little sus, better turn him in

  37. CNN is reporting that the Biden administration can’t decide whether the armed, military takeover of the civilian government in Myanmar is a “coup” or not.

    Meanwhile, they are certain the Viking Hat guy and his unarmed selfie army were a coup.

    https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1356604336860631042

    1. This is why I was saying yesterday that an “insurrection” involves a hell of a lot more than just a bunch of working-class white people re-enacting the Running of the Bulls in to the Capitol.

      1. Who even insurrects completely unarmed these days?
        The Republicans are such idiots, if you can’t afford guns at least bring pitchforks and torches, idiots.

        Anyway, threat to life and limb and overthrowing democracy, and they all must hang.

        1. it will just keep happening until we root out QAnon down to the last meme

  38. Does that bill not allow an online interactive service provider to simply automatically generate a STAR report for every single communication that goes thru it, and make that policy known to all users? Seems that’d be the only way for such a business to be safe, while at the same time highlighting the uselessness of the task. Especially when “government officials later determine” doesn’t seem to require a conviction or even an indictment.

  39. A new bill revitalizes the war on terror’s favorite slogan in service of forcing tech companies to turn over more user data to the government.

    COINTELPRO seems like a quaint anachronism from a simpler, bygone era.

  40. Black Lives Matter has been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize.

    They’re still going to peacefully protest.

    1. Only mostly though.

  41. Brown University cryptographers envision a gun registry system

    Yet officials anywhere in the country could still query the system, as they would a regular centralized database, for information about people or guns located elsewhere.

    Still violates 2A. I’m guessing Brown doesn’t have many 2A advocates on campus.

    1. “Oh it’s decentralized you say? AND it’s encrypted? Well that assuages all of my concerns about gun registration, where do I sign up?”

      1. You don’t need encryption if you don’t say anything

      2. Needz moar blockchain.

  42. “Mr. Trump on his final day in office, Jan. 20, issued a proclamation to exempt the U.A.E. from a 10% tariff on aluminum imports, citing “an important security relationship,” and said a quota would suffice. The tariffs were first imposed in 2018.

    The exemption for the U.A.E. would have gone into effect Feb. 3, but Monday night, President Biden blocked it. “In my view, the available evidence indicates that imports from the U.A.E. may still displace domestic production, and thereby threaten to impair our national security,” he wrote in a proclamation.”

    —-Wall Street Journal

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-keeps-aluminum-tariffs-on-uae-reversing-trump-policy-11612234157?

    Don’t get distracted by the arguments about trade. The UAE exported $1.3 billion in aluminum to the U.S. in 2019, but this move by the Biden administration isn’t about trade per se.

    The Biden administration also killed military hardware sales to the UAE (and Saudi Arabia) the other day, and the reason he’s getting rid of this tariff exemption is because he wants to pull the rug out from under the UAE (and Saudi Arabia) making their emerging military alliance with Israel others in the Middle East–so that they can defend themselves from Iranian aggression without the United States.

    In other words, President Trump exempted the UAE from these tariffs as a reward for normalizing relations with Israel in an attempt to integrate the UAE into the non-oil, American economy–in order to help cement their alliance with our allies. After all, the Trump administration did everything they could to get the United States out of our role as the guarantor of security in the region.

    The Biden administration doesn’t want there to be an alliance between Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE–because it threatens America’s role as the guarantor of security in the region. What’s the point of being a neocon warmonger if the defense of countries you want to use as an excuse as a pretense for an invasion don’t need you to defend them anymore?

    Any American voter who didn’t want the United States to be responsible for the security of Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and elsewhere in the region–Joe Biden just stuck two middle fingers in your face. Americans who wanted Trump to lose because he was a warmonger are some of America’s stupidest people.

    1. Good analysis, ken

    2. +1

    3. seems more likely Biden just doesn’t like Israel

      let us count the days until he moves the Embassy back

  43. In related news, Iran announced that they had successfully tested an improved rocket yesterday–that can double as an ICBM.

    “The Iranian regime on Monday announced it had test-launched, for the first time, its Zuljanah space launch vehicle.

    . . . .

    Zuljanah is an 84-foot, three-stage rocket with a solid-fuel engine in its first and second stages and a liquid-fuel engine in its third stage. The rocket can loft a 500-pound payload as high as 310 miles, according to the Iranian government.

    That’s adequate to place a satellite in low-Earth orbit and, for Iran, a big step forward for both its space program and its effort to develop delivery vehicles for possible future nuclear warheads.

    —-Forbes

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2021/02/01/irans-new-space-rocket-could-double-as-a-weapon/?

    Given the horrible impact of the sanctions Iran is suffering for violating the NPT, as well as the fact that the sanctions could go away if Iran gave up on the ability to enrich their own uranium, I’d say that people who still imagine that the intent of Iran’s nuclear program isn’t necessarily belligerent are among the stupidest people in America.

    It would seem to rival the stupidity of those who wanted Trump to lose because he was supposedly a warmonger, but it’s probably safe to assume that those who imagine that Trump was a warmonger and those who imagine that Iran’s nuclear program is peaceful are probably a lot of the same stupid people. Plenty of them are the same stupid people who think the same stupid things for the same stupid reasons.

  44. IRBM with those numbers, not ICBM. Compare the heights the Norks’ rocket tests achieved (2,000 miles for one of them), or the maximum ordinate of an, e.g., Minuteman III flight profile (~750 miles). 500 lb throw weight is pretty low too. 1/5th of the aforementioned MM III. (http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Weapons/Mmiii.html) Albeit that has 3 warheads, a bus, and lots of toys to ensure the warheads get where they need to go.

    Still a problem for their neighbors. Including Russia.

    1. The estimated range is 3,100 miles, far enough to hit the UK.

      I think the point is that they aren’t finished improving their rockets yet–and they won’t be until they can successfully hit the United States. A program to put a man on Mars is a program to put a man on Mars–even if they haven’t successfully put a man on Mars quite yet.

      1. Can they target DC NY Chicago LA sf Portland and Seattle? If so then should we care?

        1. Once again, it isn’t the law of physics that’s standing in their way.

          They can successfully put satellites into orbit using their multi-stage, solid fuel rockets.

          It’s just a matter of time–and whether Joe Biden takes the pressure off has nothing to do with it.

          They should never be allowed to enrich their own uranium.
          They should never be allowed to enrich their own uranium.
          They should never be allowed to enrich their own uranium.

          If Joe Biden someone signs an unconstitutional deal with the Iranians that lets them enrich their own uranium–in spite of their violations of the NPT, then not only should that be an impeachable offense. It will be a profoundly stupid thing to do.

          The Iranians will not be lacking in their ability to hit the U.S. for long, so refusing to take off sanctions until they abandon their enrichment program is the alternative to war. Please note, that a nuclear standoff doesn’t mean peace–it didn’t mean peace during the Cold War either. A nuclear standoff just means a never ending series of proxy wars–just like during the Cold War but with Iran this time. And there is no good reason to assume that this time it will end without a nuclear exchange.

          1. All true. I’d add an overtly nuclear-armed Iran will cause the Saudis and Emiratis to pull the tarp off of their turnkey nuclear deterrent.

            It’ll be a mess.

        2. Also, there is at least one solid, honest, libertarian in LA.

          Can’t vouch for the others.

      2. I doubt any Iranian first strike comes in via ICBM, even when they get one. Air freighter seems far more likely, with much more ambiguity about weapon origin, and far lower warning time.

        A networked system with stealthy platforms, good EW radars, and fast extended-range AAMs, may make rogue nation ballistic missile threats a lot less worrisome. It’s possible to kill them in boost phase now, and for a lot less money than those holes in the ground in Alaska. Or, if they’re that worrisome, kill them on the ground with your own stealthy 1st strike. F-35 likely has the legs.

        1. The negative consequences of Iran obtaining nuclear weapons are not limited to a nuclear exchange.

          Possessing a nuclear deterrent will give them a free hand to use conventional weapons without fear of a direct engagement. That’s what happened during the Cold War, too. We were effectively at war from 1948 until 1989. Why would we want to go through that again–this time with an adversary that has a terrorist army in Hezbollah and has been willing to use terrorist tactics including suicide bombers?

          They must not acquire nuclear weapons, and maintaining the sanctions against them and rallying their neighbors together and against them is crucial.

          No one should assume that the Pentagon or neocons in the Biden administration don’t want a conflict with Iran. Giving them a deal–like they had with Obama–is the path to war. Israel, for instance, may nuke Iran before they sit back and watch Iran develop the means to destroy Israel. Anyone who’s assuming Israel will go quietly into the night is nuts.

          Meanwhile, if and when Iran successfully conducts a nuclear test, at the very least Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan will pursue a nuclear deterrent of their own. The chances of a nuclear exchange increase dramatically as more and more nuclear powers pile into the equation.

          Iran must never be allowed to enrich their own uranium.

          1. I agree with you. Merely pointing out some potential changes in the nuclear deterrence dynamic since the Cold War, as well as clarifying my opinion of the specifics of an Iranian nuclear deterrent.

            Biden will let them get one, and may even attack Israeli attempts to destroy it.

            1. Oh, and anyone who believes they aren’t enriching Uranium past 20 percent already, has their head in the sand. At least they likely aren’t breeding weapons-grade Plutonium.

  45. The Capitol Police lieutenant who murdered Ashli Babbitt is gonna skate:
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/01/politics/us-capitol-police-shooting-insurrection/index.html

    1. You would think that Reason would have Sullum all over this, but I guess he’s busy on the Trump impeachment beat.

    2. She totally deserved it because nobody should have a right to protest the government unless it useful to the establishment and the Democratic Party.

      Traitorous wench.

    3. how many weeks of fiery but mostly peaceful Republican riots will follow this travesty?

      zero, or none?

  46. Kroger closes two grocery stores in Long Beach, California, after the city instituted a new hazard pay rule.

    Price controls strike again. Will they ever learn?

    narrator: they would never learn

    1. you can bet they are already drafting lawsuits against Kroger for violating minorities’ civil rights by not providing them food at a loss

  47. Since the Reason Roundup hasn’t covered this yet, here is as good a place as any to post something that desperately needs more attention. WARNING: Descriptions of fatal child abuse and neglect perpetuated by both Church and State:

    9,000 children died in Ireland’s brutal homes for unmarried mothers and babies run by the Catholic Church in the 20th century, damning report reveals
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9138905/Damning-report-finds-thousands-unmarried-Irish-mothers-babies-suffered-refuge-homes.html

    Ireland is in need of a serious libertarian do-over.

    1. Ireland has always been a shithole, thats why most of them came to the US.

  48. People should be held responsible for what they say in public.

    Responsibility is commensurate to our rights, like free speech, gun ownership etc. With responsibility comes authority.

    I stand up for what I say and do everywhere I go. I can because I have inalienable rights that should protect me from coercion.

    When I see people abdicating their rights and violating mine, I do whatever I can to oppose them.

    As long as you don’t violate my rights, you can piss, moan, snitch fill your boots.

    1. So, go hold them responsible.

      Always with wanting the government to do your work for you.

      1. Organizing us to improve our society to maximize our potential within the constructs of our inalienable rights is what government is supposed to do.

        You may see that as ensuring clean drinking water, maintained roads or ensuring our media platforms respect free speech.

  49. Even worse, as I read the bill, it would not only require submitting the STAR, it would also require taking action against the account:

    Each provider of an interactive computer service shall…
    (C) not later than 30 days after the date on which the interactive computer service submits a STAR under this section, take action against the website or account reported unless the provider of an interactive computer service receives a notification from a law enforcement agency that the website or account should remain open.

    1. Stay at home safe and sound avoiding corona virus but do not sit idol work online and make full use of this hostage period and raise extra money to over come daily financial difficulties.. For more detail

    2. Of course it does.

    3. This bill sounds like the worst example someone could think up of what the “see something, say something” meme could devolve into. That it was introduced in seriousness, not as a parody of the kind of law we don’t want in this country, is truly frightening. I am hoping that the other 98% of the Senate, and a similar percentage of the house, will oppose it. But that isn’t likely to happen, is it?

      If this “bipartisan” bill passes, internet freedom is clearly dead, and so is a large portion of freedom in general. The Supreme Court would always strike it down, but hopefully it won’t come to that, and the bill will be defeated by a healthy margin. Or not voted on at all.

      1. could always strike it down. Would they? I do think so, but I’d like to be more certain than I am.

      2. If they struck it down they’d be packed within the month and then reverse themselves.

  50. I’m looking forward to 1984, The Musical. Maybe Lin-Manuel Miranda can “reimagine” it into an inspiring glimpse of what the future can be if only we get rid of misinformed, violent dissent from seditious, far right kulacks and other wreckers.

  51. Brown University cryptographers envision a gun registry system “that can be deployed nationally while also being fully encrypted and decentralized.”

    Morons.

    What’s the point of encrypting it when the people that we don’t want to have the information in the registry will be the only ones with the key?

    Do they not get that we oppose registries not because we’re afraid of burglars but because we’re afraid of the government?

    1. ^ they do NOT get that, no.

    2. Not just that – but the very large number of people who would have access to said information makes it close to 100% likely that the key will make it’s way outside those selected for access. Essentially providing a backdoor to anyone, criminal or otherwise, who wishes to get to the information.

  52. only made it three sentences into the Atlantic piece, already whining about Trump and democratic norms even as their saviors discuss packing the courts and adding two states

  53. Looook, der iss a Jooooh over there, inform the Nazi’s that he does not haff a star on his sleeve. ACHTUNG, REPORT ALL VIOLATIONS.

  54. Every_one says but i asked …READ MORE

  55. These laps reveal a vehicle’s strengths and weaknesses and also the stories beyond the numbers. Still wondering why Chevrolet moved the Corvette’s engine from the front to the middle? The C8’s lap should clear things up. The rowdy Mini John Cooper Works GP claimed the Lightning Lap record for front-wheel-drive vehicles while the four-cylinder Mercedes-AMG CLA45 pulled out a surprise perform­ance and vanquished the times set by eight V-8-powered AMG bruisers. The Porsche Taycan Turbo S made a real breakthrough for electric vehicles when it set a blazing lap in line with the fastest gas-powered sedans. And the Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 shrugged off its hefty weight to circle the track quicker than a mid-engine supercar.

    https://www.news000k.com/

  56. This is fascism in your face, America.
    Yes, they are abusing and kicking the majority of Americans, violating the 4th Amendment, intimidating them and bullying them with forced “White Fragility” training for their crime of joining-up to serve their nation. But TPTB claim to mean well and that is the important part, am I right?
    The new Junta currently in charge just has a little too much hate in their heads but they plan to calm down. Time Magazine literally told us so February 4th with the article entitled, “The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election”. Once they took control, all the evil tactics were ordered halted. No more looting, vaccines galore, and everyone would get a pony.

    And you cannot be racist if you ain’t “white”. That is academic truth. A professor told me that. Because Woke is all about non-universal principles, sort of like arbitrary justice, laws that apply to some but not to others. It’s all good. It’s, in fact, doubleplusgood.

    Look. America, this ritualized humiliation is geared to be as unAmerican as one could possibly make it and you just need to go along. Stolen elections have consequences. Team Biden has promises to keep so shut up and learn to code, maybe take Mandarin.

    Yes, that was sarcasm. I need to be serious now. The powerful hate sarcasm so I use it but it only gets you walking in the right direction, not onto the finish line. The truly good people of the USA are a sleeping giant who are awoken by just this sort of assault on universal ethics and morality that the new regime is engaging in. For Orwell did not portray Emmanuel Goldstein because he was real, a honest threat, but because we had to know just how the game will be played when the wrong people get into power. And the game is on now. The totalitarians did get into power and now we have to recognize it.

    People are seeing one fascist act after the other that was laid on Trump actually implemented by Biden and company. Nothing here is acceptable but the MSM either cheers or is silent.
    Selling out the USA is not what Americans want to see. And now they are realizing that Biden and the Hunter Laptop scandal are all too real, not Russian disinformation. And we see that China is the threat that the last administration warned us it was.

    Thankfully, all actions have consequences, not just elections. My god, frankly, I could not engineer a better reversal on the MSM-antiTrump hate-machine than what this treasonous illegitimate President has done already. Polling for Trump will hit 60%+ by May.

  57. Her name was Ashli Babbitt, an airforce veteran and patriot, executed on Capital Hill while committing an act of Civil Disobedience. Shot in the neck by a uniformed officer, Ashli died because she was non content just complaining about the stolen election but wanted her elected officials to understand they had crossed the Rubicon on the American people, the one’s who pay the taxes and do the bleeding in times of war.
    RIP Ashli Babbitt. No smear campaign can sully your spirit and the love we have for you.

  58. The extent to which this will be abused cannot be underestimated.

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