On The Independents: Justin Amash on the Secret Surveillance Bill, Bernie Sanders on Economics, Andy Levy & Jimmy Failla on Torture, Guns, License Plates, Rick Perry, and Sony; and Me on Rolling Stone
Tonight's episode of The Independents (Fox Business Network, 9 p.m. ET, 6 p.m. PT, with repeats three and five hours later) features interviews with two Capitol Hill stalwarts who are part of that left-right grassroots coalition you sometimes hear about when the National Security Agency almost gets defunded or whatnot.
First up is Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.), who will talk about a terrifying blanket-surveillance bill that passed Congress this week with little fanfare (read Amash slam the bill on his Facebook page). Later in the show, socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont) will tussle with Kennedy over economic policy and his presidential aspirations.
Party Panel is Red Eye co-host TV's Andy Levy and comedian Jimmy Failla, who will talk about precisely what I mention in the headline of this post, only with more verve and wit. And the hostess and I shall discuss how journalistic catastrophes like the Rolling Stone gang-rape article happen.
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Later in the show, socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont) will tussle with Kennedy over economic policy and his pesidential aspirations.
“pesidential”
I’d have gone with “pestilential” but that’s just me.
Thanks.
Wasn’t trying to be a dick… at least not to you. More of a “Bernie Sanders’ economic beliefs are terrible” sort of thing.
I think pestilential fits just fine…
I think ‘dick’ fits too.
“A pestilential dick”
I;m enamored… with this word… you sweet joys have been ballin wid…
k…pestilential:
1: harmful or destructive to crops or livestock
2.of, relating to, or tending to cause infectious diseases
3. annoying
————————————–
So Bernie Sanders’ COCK is annoying and destructive to crops and likely to cause infectious diseases…
You’re DRUNK, Agile… go home!
WHY ARE YOU NOT PLAYING 2112?!?
“I’d have gone with “pestilential” but that’s just me.”
Are we sure he didn’t say, “Pez Dispenser-aspirations”? because some people (cough! me) think that’s actually a bigger deal
Please attach the Bernster with Objectivism. Do it well.
I’d have gone with “pestilential”, but that’s just BiMonSciFiCon….
Is it me or do the Friday postings get earlier and earlier?
Have you kicked all the interns out into the cold already?
Holiday hours
Not to be confused with Summer Hours, Spring Hours, Fall Hours, and Rain Days
Know what would be a great segment?
Have a socialist come on and each time they say something stupid – which is pretty much a given – you punch them in the face.
Meh. It’s an idea.
I find your ideas intriguing, and would be interested in subscribing to any newsletter you might publish, or any TV show you might produce…that is not on CBC, eh?
Sure.
We would just need to select the person to do the punching.
Warty.
Is Canuck Dipshit on SCTV?
Remember ‘L’ is NOT for love.
“…and Me on Rolling Stone.”
On the COVER of Rolling Stone, I hope. (yes, I’m old)
Hopefully this thread will get bumped around 8.
I found some hyper-mega derp last night. There’s this Christian apologist named David Wood. He’s made some pretty good videos debunking Islam. Last week, he made a video explaining how he became a Christian:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DakEcY7Z5GU
In it he recounts:
-how he was a violent juvenile delinquent
-how he used to think he could control the weather
-how he tried to murder his sleeping dad with a hammer
-how he ended up in a mental hospital where he became a Christian
I’ve heard many stories like this “I used to be a drunken, wife-beating, terrorist jaywalker until I found Jesus/Allah/L Ron Hubbard.” Everybody likes a redemption story.
He admits to to fervently believing nonsense and now he fervently believes Christianity. Not exactly a ringing endorsement.
If I was a Christian, I would not want this guy as my spokesman.
Yes. Ants rule the world.
Next.
I don’t know about this guy in particular, but bear in mind:
-Before he was a Christian, St. Paul was the equivalent of a hit-man for the Sanhedrin
-Before returning to the Christian faith, C. S. Lewis was an atheist college professor
-St. Ignatius Loyola *and* St. Francis fought in the idiot wars of their time before taking up more self-consciously religious ways of life.
-And let’s not forget St. Matthew the tax-collector.
The Willard Preacher at Penn State claimed he discovered Jesus in the bottom of a beer bottle and changed afterwards. You can put him on the list.
Luxury! Angulimala was a serial killer who wore a necklace made out of the severed fingers of his victims.
Is that like one finger per victim or a whole set of fingers for each victim?
1 per victim. But that’s only because he was bad at math.
“Very good, but I should have mentioned I wanted all *middle* fingers!”
“D’oh!”
Yeah what he said.
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
It sounds like you’re saying that if you believe nonsense at any point in time you’re fated to believe it the rest of your life. If so, that’s pretty depressing for the vast majority of humanity.
How does one “try” to murder a sleeping person with a hammer?
I think the more important question is: Who Hasn’t Bill Cosby Raped?
He hasn’t raped me…I don’t think…but maybe..when you consider the damage done to my psyche as Dr Huxtable becomes Dr Mengele…why yes, I guess he has.
He didn’t rape me either.
I believe you, and I support you.
Lived experiences and all that.
I wish I could remember bein’ raped by old blacky ugly.
I just had two beers. Samichlaus 2012 and Tr?eg’s Mad Elf. Should I go for a third?
If you’re going to listen to Bernie Sanders talk economics, I’d suggest you drink several (or go to a bar and don’t watch the motherfucker at all).
You’re right. I’m going to do it. I’m going to drink Cooper’s Vintage Ale, and I’m going to drink it in a glass which I received at the Cooper’s brewery and which survived five plane rides to get it to the USA.
Dew it
Troeg’s Mad Elf is very nice.
I’m doing Lagunitas Brown Shugga
Did Bernie vote for TARP? The biggest socialist bill in my lifetime? I don’t know.
AHH!! Cavuto!
Prediction: Fosterless
Ribbed red sweater. What will Gilmore say?
Red Friday
Uh-oh. The livestream is fucked and I’m trying to get drunk enough to watch Bernie Sanders.
Bottle of wine is done, next: whiskey or gin?
Whiskey
mighty risky!
But that’s the fun.
Gin it is!
I should try harder next time.
Whiskey makes me belligerent. Asshole.
OK. Since I’m not a nice guy, I’ll drink it for you.
Yes.
Did Patton torture that shellshocked soldier?
WIlliam Wallace was tortured.
They’re being very cryptic about what’s up with Foster. Is he the one who hacked Sony?
FWIW: he tweeted today and yesterday retweeted something of Matt’s:
https://twitter.com/kmele
that’s what they want you to think.
Ahh, wheels within wheels…
KMELE = ILLUMINATI
Prove me wrong.
Um, I think I’ve seen enough episodes of 24 to have an informed opinion on torture.
THERE ISN’T ANY TIME!!!
TELL ME WHERE THE REMOTE IS!
IT’S IN THE BUTT HUMMUS!
You know what would make Andy Levy talking about butt-hummus less terrible? Kmele beating the shit out of him.
Ah, the poor interrogators.
THEY’RE ALL WAFFLING ON TORTURE! Start interrogating the < i The Independents and they’ll agree with you before the first fingernail gets pulled.
I have a carry permit and I’m not allowed to carry while riding my quad on my own property.
wut? you must be cali?
The Great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
ah, I think I knew this. Sorry for your state.
I grew up in PA. It has its benefits, but I don’t plan to move back permenantly.
does that count if you ride said quad sober?
(can you (generic you, a person) ride a quad sober?)
I had a visitor from NYC and he was amazed a) by riding an ATV and b) by firing a handgun. And, yes, we were all drinking at the time (but not drunk).
Ah, rural America.
USA USA USA
That only applies to long guns, right? I know you can’t have a loaded long gun in a vehicle in PA, but handguns are OK (with a LTCF).
And on Fox Sports 1, they have an Iraqi woman fighting in UFC. (And about the only attractive one they’ve had all show)
Also, all the people who constantly make “brown people” remarks about the Middle East should really look at her. She’s about as brown as vanilla ice cream.
If you want to look at a Middle Easterner, then you should look at Mia Khalifa.
Just don’t look at work.
Her implants make me sad.
What do you have against Transhumanism?
hah! People are a good start.
I think implants look stupid. It’s rare to find a good boob job.
I’ll take Anissa Kate (NSFW) instead.
Fair enough.
Nice
And if I could get her and Angela White in a threesome, that would be awesome beyond words.
She’s pretty thick for someone with the name “White”.
My reaction to this revelation?
True, she is a bit thick, but I just don’t care.
Those implants were NBA approved.
Motivated fighter Ima guess
Justin Amash’s bodily fluids….next on the Independents!
The Independents Attire Review, 12 December 2014
Everything Has a Price-Edition
– Kennedy: It strikes us that we’ve only rarely seen Kennedy in a full-blown “Red Dress” (shirt, blouse, on occasion); w/ her black hair, bleach-white skin really gives her an “intense” look that nothing else accomplishes. Its crazy hawt; we understand why it might be rare, however, as it might also be just a teensy-bit evocative of “scary-crazy-vampire-woman”. Which Kennedy is totally, uh, definitely not. Very. So much.
– Matt: New Suit. New Tie. Sensory Overload. Light Grey suits are our often-mentioned absolute favorites. Not sure about the weave on it (sharkskin?), but it looks like a good once-a week alternative to the Navy. With the pink tie, it does what the (now-deceased?) “Formula Suit” used to do, which was provide a lighthearted, casual-formal alternative. We think this would actually look best with his purple tie on white, or some of his Navy-ish tie options with either blue or white.
– Kmele: If The Independents are contacted by “Dog The Bounty Hunter” over the course of the Weekend, do not be alarmed. He is on retainer until Kmele has been repatriated to the program. We recommend you don’t give him any backtalk.
Tanikiu
This Amash interview really needs a bit wider circulation than an obscure libertarian show on Fox Business on a Friday night.
And maybe they could edit out the construction noise in the background.
I assumed it was a terrorist attack, which could have been prevented with enough butt-hummus.
an obscure libertarian show on Fox Business on a Friday night.
What are you talking about? The Libertarian Moment is upon us.
I agree, but with the Pineapple Express Storm, Mark Zuckerberg’s intransigence on teh dislike button, and the Trillion Dollar Cromnibus, there just ISNT ANY ROOM in the MEDIA.
Welch’s outfit looks like one of those artsy fartsy photographs where they make it monotone except for one color.
5 of every 4 coeds is raped – that poor 4th coed went back to the frat house to get more.
So what’s Lizzie Warren’s problem with the spending bill? Pretending to be a fiscal conservative for political expediency or not spending enough money?
TEH WALL STREETZ!
I think it “loosened” some proviso in Dodd-Frank which was her baby back in the day.
It lifted restrictions on prop-desk OTC swaps trading which would have required 3rd party intermediaries to broker them and ‘make a market’
the whole point of counter-party swaps is that there IS NO market in them and they are 1-1 contracts. There is no extant middle-market available that would suit their exchange. The rule is being ditched because the rule, like many in the legislation, failed to even understand the basic mechanics of what they thought they were regulating.
I have no doubt Lizzie is wrong. And thanks for the info.
My point was that she seems to have decided that this is a hill worth fighting on as it may improve her presidential cred as the candidate on the side of the “little people.”
Gilmore is wrong again – but for the right reason!
Sure.
like how the volker rule was passed without the authors realizing that it would have crushed the market for Municipal Bonds by banning banks from buying them for their own inventory to make a market. They belatedly made exceptions to prevent a massive sell off in municipal credit.
Dodd Frank is a steaming pile of useless overly complex horseshit that does nearly nothing of any value. It certainly doesn’t do anything to prevent any further asset bubbles, which the government seems to want to promote in perpetuity.
I’m sure you can explain why the swaps restrictions were a great idea.
BUT WHY? WHY CAN’T WE MAKE SHIT UP AND GET AWAY WITH IT? Welch isn’t answering the question.
That question is a MICRO-AGGRESSION.
I’m reporting you.
https://www.facebook.com/pumicroaggression
Janet Cooke: “Cooke resigned and returned the Prize. (It was awarded to Teresa Carpenter of The Village Voice.)[4] She appeared on the Phil Donahue show in January 1982 and said that the high-pressure environment of the Post had corrupted her judgment. She said that her sources had hinted to her about the existence of a boy such as Jimmy, but unable to find him, she eventually created a story about him in order to satisfy her editors.”
Is Michael Bay directing this? Watch as the one camera keeps moving.
IF MATT WELCH IS SO SMART WHY ISN’T CAVANAUGH AT REASON ANYMORE?
YES!
Because he sucks.
Which one? Both?
Schr?dinger’s journalist.
Fuck these live streams. I even brought up my Windows VM, updated to the latest flash, and none of the streaming sites I found would play The Independents.
Journalism is a profession only in the sense that you get paid.
I’m a big fan of the pink, white and beige combo/tones.
Very Cote D’Azur/Ventimiglia; French/Italian Riviera.
Yes that was an attire non-sequitur.
Please quit trying to impress the wingnuts here RF
Oh, I thought the car owner himself bragged about that tag.
“Musician friend”
Matthew has also been offering great online discounts on equipment, instruments and accessories for years now
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/
I like that historian who told Imus that Barack Obama had the highest IQ of all presidents but had to admit he didn’t know what Obama’s IQ was.
Obama can form a complete sentence unlike Dumbta.
Clinton is the smartest Pres since 1900 though.
oh, look. It’s Friday, you can do better than that.
Clinton?? Haha – he couldn’t even get away with a hummer. he was so smart he squirted on the dress. Yeah, real clever. Just a dumbass frat boy.
Bestest speakerator ever!
That’s uhh… umm, well… that is… you know, that’s true.
BUT WHY? WHY CAN’T WE MAKE SHIT UP AND GET AWAY WITH IT?
Seems to apply to that guy too.
Stupid, smart. How can you tell with people whose every word is generally scripted?
The real question is can he pass the Turing test?
The Simulacra is a how to manual?!
mOST people on reason rarely post fucked up on shrooms, tabs, christmas bud, or copious amounts of booze…
But when you consider reasons history… it seems rather unfair that I get my shit censored and erased from this site and no one else does…
My gauntlet is… how many libertarian anarchist fuk the gov types have are not allowd to get travellin’ on astral dolphins on this site?
You’ll have to ride the dragon for me.
Dear, I truly do actually behave so fucking well… The wife and visited Chicago few weeks back and my goddam ass was thrown out le’ Goddfrey lounge… for fancy dancin on many shots o’ the sweet bourbon and fuck cousin whisky… spent like 3k on that whole weekend… ended up eating short ribs and lobster mushrooms at that skinny bitch Enews lounge RPM steak… great fuckin food.. tho…
went dancin at untitled… did NOT get thrown out… ONLY becuz my wife is absolutly gorgwa’ and I did small talk with the cop bouncer…
My mexican bartender was soo fuckin awesonme… BEST ol fashions with hot sauce… I bought many… I tipped my dude 50.
Chicago saved itself or I would’ve hated the bitch.
Aw, are they memory holing your stuff? I don’t support that.
What I want to know is how AC remembers that he posted anything.
Maybe he hallucinated posting, and so when he comes down off the astral dolphins and doesn’t see any of his “posts” he thinks he’s been memory-holed.
Sun titties should have been preserved for all time. FOR ALL TIME!
All of my posts that aren’t made during working hours are done after having some alcohol in me. None of my posts have been deleted. Yet.
I am so not the drunkest here. Fuck those astral dolphins.
Like I said up above, I need to try harder.
Crisswell, if you love KC Store so much why don’t you just marry it?
But not releasing Spider-Man.
Okay, Kennedy and Welch… you’re getting in the way of Rush
No one can tame Sanders’ glorious mane of hair.
If Bernie Sanders isn’t the Platonic Form of a pedophile, I don’t know who is.
Mark Foley?
wait… Socrates?
I think Lindsey Graham looks more like an actual child molester
he has that creepy southern “10yr old boyish” face that never grows up, and just looks more and more ‘creepy/scary’.
i see him watching snuff films and sniffing glue with ralph reed
Fat Rush – real child molestor.
Perhaps with counseling you’ll be able to get over it.
How bout term limits to defang the korporationz?
You simply steal it, of course.
Did Sanders just use the word reality?
Bzzz… time for Rush!
I was just at Mother Jones for some reason, and a commenter was complaining about Bernie Sanders being a right-winger because the US doesn’t really have a left. He got lots of upvotes.
PapayaSF|12.12.14 @ 9:51PM|#
“I was just at Mother Jones for some reason,”..
Being that you are in SF, I first took that literally, that you had dropped by their offices, since I think their editorial office is still here, right?
Uh, launch another window, select bing, type in…
And look there! That rag is no longer published as a for-profit magazine, but as a lefty ‘competitor’ to Reason.
Wanna bet the IRS gave ’em a pass?
I only visit digitally.
And the top 1% pays what part of the Federal tax bull?
36.73%
Yes, America should be about socialism.
Sanders is laughing at Kennedy.
Not a good sign.
She’s kicking his ass.
It’s like beating up a retard though isn;t it?
You could actually see his face turning red as the interview went on.
“like”?
Kennedy moonlights as a dominatrix?
If we do it intelligently! THIS TIME IT WILL BE DIFFERENT.
DIFFERENT!!!!!!
If you didn’t reach your goal, you just didn’t shovel enough tax dollars at it.
I bet you Bernie is bare foot while conducting this interview.
Dipshit – what does that mean?
What are you fucking stupid?
It means he gets results, you stupid chief!
Sanders in the race can only make the Democrats look better in comparison.
Come back, Sanders…unless you’re *chicken!*
WTF, Kennedy? College should be free for everyone? What a stupid idea…
Does she float that often?
You almost got me….almost.
Shhh! She’s trying to be nice to the crazy old communist
Kennedy is a bee zipping about in the halls of horrible fox tryin not 2 be devoured… CNN would just stamp out the life of our sweet lovely Kennedy who I offer my bed 2 with a super sweet and gorgeous blonde called my wifo
I bet if we added up Bernie’s 12 point plan it would equal zero…
You’re generous.
I get soft hearted at Christmastime…
12. The world “twelve” has six letters. Half of six is three. A triangle has three sides. Two triangles would have six sides. The Star of David is composed of two triangles. The Star of David has six points. Bernie Sanders is the the son of Polish Jewish immigrants. His plan has 12 points = 2 Jewish Stars. 2 Jewish Stars signifies the close relationship between the United States and Israel. Israel is roughly triangular.
ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED
Prove me wrong!
You have a newsletter?
Every human called Heroik has a newsletter somewhar you naive child of the sea.
I like the cut of your gibberish.
Suddenly Quincy|12.12.14 @ 10:51PM|#
“I like the cut of your gibberish.”
I’m stealing that.
Talk to The Tick.
AH! Lou Dobbs.
Sha la la la DOOOOOOOOOOOOOBS
Christ, Harry Reid is a fucking weasel.
H.Reid is a feckless lout who’d normally be the homeless vagrant on planet devoid seeking child legs if this was 3015.
Right!
I think…
I am sure he is without feck, so there is that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkB1X7pfDeU
https://reason.com/blog/2014/04…..-2016-im-t
And it means taking seriously politicians as different as Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), the libertarian-leaning Tea Party favorite, and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), the socialist former mayor of Burlington. At least these guys are talking about the future, rather than enacting a weird dance with the past.
Winston is verb worm opening hatches into previous sentences… hes a fuckin thread reveler… with a battery runnin’ on infovestigations.
Could you translate Finnegan’s Wake for me?
Agile, have I told you lately I love you?
Agile, have I told you lately I love you?
Any man that sweats gin I revel in le love of…
Does Hogarth mean nothing to you?
okay, window licker.
Can we discuss le’ burppage Indiepoopers?
Ja
Why is 10 PM ET the libertarian curfew?
Only on Friday…
…cause we’re fucking old…
SweatingGin|12.12.14 @ 10:36PM|#
“Only on Friday…
…cause we’re fucking old…”
You EST guys bail EARLY; by 10PM WST, there is no one except Tony (and the other lefty twits) trying to sneak in comments that they hope no one sees.
Protip: put on rush, it’ll be okay.
Rush? Naaah…..
fuck you.
Not a curfew, Time of the Cyborg.
I’m hanging up
I don’t know why anyone wouldn’t want to look at this site around the time that Agile Cyborg starts dipping into the LSD.
Literally the best part of Reason is when Cyborg goes nuts between 9:30 and 10:30.
It’s after 10:30, so the party’s over. I’m going to sober up. I’ll find out tomorrow morning if any of Cyborg’s prose gets deleted.
Don’t get me wrong. I fucking love the cyborg…
The cyborg mostly comes… at night.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAzTnsSgs2s
Reasons attracts the brightst man and woman… gorgeous minds.. eruditola… nanosharp.. sugarsweet… curvacious…mobius…escherlike… but the uppers on this lit pile are prepfucks and schooled… and not terribly worldy… or …wordly…
sorry man in black… best site on the web can getbetter….
oooooooooooooooooooooooooh banhammer cummeth
^ Should have sent a poet
Egyptian claims there are 7 Jews on the US Supreme Court, thus proving America is a Zionist puppet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek18RY3s9lI
2 seconds on Google would show there are only 3 Jews currently serving.
Nah, SCOTUS is a Papist puppet. The Know Nothings were right!
Obviously, I mean, look what they did to my Christmas lights.
Bastards
FUCK YOU!
OH look! Whiskey got in.
I didn’t think I was that drunk. I don’t remember posting “Bastards”.
Three, seven, who’s worried about the details?
What, is this chopped liver?
Imam denounces Jews; Jews riot and threaten his life. Oh wait, they did nothing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w9fPNXH9DU
Muslim professor claims ISIS is Israeli conspiracy. The Proof? ISIS can stand for Israeli Secret Intelligence Service.
This stands a good chance of being the dumbest conspiracy theory to come out of the Muslim world for at least 24 hours.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBCJopqZTSg
I forgot the cherry on top: they claim the leader of ISIS is actually a Jew named Simon Eliot. He was trained by Mossad to infiltrate the terrorists and make Muslims look bad.
Yeah, that makes sense.
OK, derp overload. I’m going to play pool.
Derpetologist|12.12.14 @ 11:17PM|#
“I forgot the cherry on top: they claim the leader of ISIS is actually a Jew named Simon Eliot. He was trained by Mossad to infiltrate the terrorists and make Muslims look bad.”
But who was the man on the grassy knoll???
JFK himself egged on by Lester?
+1 smeg
Dr. Who?
wait, Eric Garner wasn’t the first? Color me shocked
Prolly been linked before, but I missed it. Ray Stevens has a comment on Obo’s budget:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6TcpfBHlbs
Probably has been posted already, but:
Ferguson, MO to close budget gap with more tickets.
Natalie . even though Steven `s artlclee is nice… I just purchased Peugeot 205 GTi after earning $6824 thiss month and-even more than, ten grand this past-month . with-out any question its my favourite job Ive had .
Best way to keep join======== http://www.jobsfish.com
The Feds seem to have WAY too much spare time on their hands lol.
http://www.AnonPlanet.tk