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Politics

On The Independents: Justin Amash on the Secret Surveillance Bill, Bernie Sanders on Economics, Andy Levy & Jimmy Failla on Torture, Guns, License Plates, Rick Perry, and Sony; and Me on Rolling Stone

Matt Welch | 12.12.2014 8:38 PM

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Tonight's episode of The Independents (Fox Business Network, 9 p.m. ET, 6 p.m. PT, with repeats three and five hours later) features interviews with two Capitol Hill stalwarts who are part of that left-right grassroots coalition you sometimes hear about when the National Security Agency almost gets defunded or whatnot.

First up is Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.), who will talk about a terrifying blanket-surveillance bill that passed Congress this week with little fanfare (read Amash slam the bill on his Facebook page). Later in the show, socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont) will tussle with Kennedy over economic policy and his presidential aspirations.

Party Panel is Red Eye co-host TV's Andy Levy and comedian Jimmy Failla, who will talk about precisely what I mention in the headline of this post, only with more verve and wit. And the hostess and I shall discuss how journalistic catastrophes like the Rolling Stone gang-rape article happen.

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  1. BiMonSciFiCon   11 years ago

    Later in the show, socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont) will tussle with Kennedy over economic policy and his pesidential aspirations.

    "pesidential"

    I'd have gone with "pestilential" but that's just me.

    1. Matt Welch   11 years ago

      Thanks.

      1. BiMonSciFiCon   11 years ago

        Wasn't trying to be a dick... at least not to you. More of a "Bernie Sanders' economic beliefs are terrible" sort of thing.

        1. Swiss Servator, Winter kommt!   11 years ago

          I think pestilential fits just fine...

          1. Bobarian (Mr. Xtreme)   11 years ago

            I think 'dick' fits too.

            1. Swiss Servator, Winter kommt!   11 years ago

              "A pestilential dick"

              1. Agile Cyborg   11 years ago

                I;m enamored... with this word... you sweet joys have been ballin wid...

                k...pestilential:

                1: harmful or destructive to crops or livestock

                2.of, relating to, or tending to cause infectious diseases

                3. annoying
                --------------------------------------

                So Bernie Sanders' COCK is annoying and destructive to crops and likely to cause infectious diseases...

                1. Dweebston   11 years ago

                  You're DRUNK, Agile... go home!

                  1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

                    WHY ARE YOU NOT PLAYING 2112?!?

    2. GILMORE   11 years ago

      "I'd have gone with "pestilential" but that's just me."

      Are we sure he didn't say, "Pez Dispenser-aspirations"? because some people (cough! me) think that's actually a bigger deal

  2. Cytotoxic   11 years ago

    Please attach the Bernster with Objectivism. Do it well.

  3. Almanian!   11 years ago

    I'd have gone with "pestilential", but that's just BiMonSciFiCon....

  4. Bobarian (Mr. Xtreme)   11 years ago

    Is it me or do the Friday postings get earlier and earlier?

    Have you kicked all the interns out into the cold already?

    1. GILMORE   11 years ago

      Holiday hours

      Not to be confused with Summer Hours, Spring Hours, Fall Hours, and Rain Days

  5. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

    Know what would be a great segment?

    Have a socialist come on and each time they say something stupid - which is pretty much a given - you punch them in the face.

    Meh. It's an idea.

    1. Almanian!   11 years ago

      I find your ideas intriguing, and would be interested in subscribing to any newsletter you might publish, or any TV show you might produce...that is not on CBC, eh?

      1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

        Sure.

        We would just need to select the person to do the punching.

        1. Old Man With Candy   11 years ago

          Warty.

      2. Palin's Buttplug   11 years ago

        Is Canuck Dipshit on SCTV?

        1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

          Remember 'L' is NOT for love.

  6. Libertarian   11 years ago

    "...and Me on Rolling Stone."

    On the COVER of Rolling Stone, I hope. (yes, I'm old)

  7. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    Hopefully this thread will get bumped around 8.

    I found some hyper-mega derp last night. There's this Christian apologist named David Wood. He's made some pretty good videos debunking Islam. Last week, he made a video explaining how he became a Christian:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DakEcY7Z5GU

    In it he recounts:

    -how he was a violent juvenile delinquent
    -how he used to think he could control the weather
    -how he tried to murder his sleeping dad with a hammer
    -how he ended up in a mental hospital where he became a Christian

    I've heard many stories like this "I used to be a drunken, wife-beating, terrorist jaywalker until I found Jesus/Allah/L Ron Hubbard." Everybody likes a redemption story.

    He admits to to fervently believing nonsense and now he fervently believes Christianity. Not exactly a ringing endorsement.

    If I was a Christian, I would not want this guy as my spokesman.

    1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

      Yes. Ants rule the world.

      Next.

    2. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

      I don't know about this guy in particular, but bear in mind:

      -Before he was a Christian, St. Paul was the equivalent of a hit-man for the Sanhedrin

      -Before returning to the Christian faith, C. S. Lewis was an atheist college professor

      -St. Ignatius Loyola *and* St. Francis fought in the idiot wars of their time before taking up more self-consciously religious ways of life.

      -And let's not forget St. Matthew the tax-collector.

      1. DEG   11 years ago

        The Willard Preacher at Penn State claimed he discovered Jesus in the bottom of a beer bottle and changed afterwards. You can put him on the list.

      2. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

        Luxury! Angulimala was a serial killer who wore a necklace made out of the severed fingers of his victims.

        1. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

          Is that like one finger per victim or a whole set of fingers for each victim?

          1. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

            1 per victim. But that's only because he was bad at math.

            the teacher said that Ahimsaka's training was complete, but that he must provide the traditional final gift offered to a guru before the teacher would grant his approval. As his payment, the teacher demanded 1,000 fingers, each taken from a different victim, thinking that Angulimala would be killed in the course of seeking this grisly prize (Pad states that Angulimala was required to fetch 1,000 fingers from right hands, seemingly unaware that this could be achieved by killing 200 people.

            1. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

              "Very good, but I should have mentioned I wanted all *middle* fingers!"

              1. PapayaSF   11 years ago

                "D'oh!"

            2. Dweebston   11 years ago

              To the Theravada and Mahayana, Angulimala's story serves as an example that even the worst of people can undo the faults in their beings and return to the right path. The Theosophical viewpoint on this story is similar, and also includes that Karma must be repaid, but it is up to the individual as to how they react to their karma that will determine the change in their character. Even though Angulimala had repented and was enlightened, he still had to pay the karma of killing so many. He was peaceful and accepted what was done, and was therefore liberated from the Wheel of Rebirth.

              So what, karmically, did he do to expiate his sins, or whatever?

      3. lap83   11 years ago

        Yeah what he said.

        1 Corinthians 13:11

        When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

    3. lap83   11 years ago

      It sounds like you're saying that if you believe nonsense at any point in time you're fated to believe it the rest of your life. If so, that's pretty depressing for the vast majority of humanity.

    4. MJGreen   11 years ago

      How does one "try" to murder a sleeping person with a hammer?

  8. GILMORE   11 years ago

    I think the more important question is: Who Hasn't Bill Cosby Raped?

    1. gaijin   11 years ago

      He hasn't raped me...I don't think...but maybe..when you consider the damage done to my psyche as Dr Huxtable becomes Dr Mengele...why yes, I guess he has.

      1. DEG   11 years ago

        He didn't rape me either.

        1. GILMORE   11 years ago

          I believe you, and I support you.

          1. DEG   11 years ago

            Lived experiences and all that.

    2. Agile Cyborg   11 years ago

      I wish I could remember bein' raped by old blacky ugly.

  9. DEG   11 years ago

    I just had two beers. Samichlaus 2012 and Tr?eg's Mad Elf. Should I go for a third?

    1. Libertarius   11 years ago

      If you're going to listen to Bernie Sanders talk economics, I'd suggest you drink several (or go to a bar and don't watch the motherfucker at all).

      1. DEG   11 years ago

        You're right. I'm going to do it. I'm going to drink Cooper's Vintage Ale, and I'm going to drink it in a glass which I received at the Cooper's brewery and which survived five plane rides to get it to the USA.

    2. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      Dew it

    3. BigT   11 years ago

      Troeg's Mad Elf is very nice.

      I'm doing Lagunitas Brown Shugga

  10. Palin's Buttplug   11 years ago

    Did Bernie vote for TARP? The biggest socialist bill in my lifetime? I don't know.

  11. SweatingGin   11 years ago

    AHH!! Cavuto!

  12. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Prediction: Fosterless

  13. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Ribbed red sweater. What will Gilmore say?

  14. gaijin   11 years ago

    Red Friday

  15. DEG   11 years ago

    Uh-oh. The livestream is fucked and I'm trying to get drunk enough to watch Bernie Sanders.

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      Bottle of wine is done, next: whiskey or gin?

      1. DEG   11 years ago

        Whiskey

        1. gaijin   11 years ago

          mighty risky!

          1. DEG   11 years ago

            But that's the fun.

        2. SweatingGin   11 years ago

          Gin it is!

          1. DEG   11 years ago

            I should try harder next time.

            1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

              Whiskey makes me belligerent. Asshole.

              1. DEG   11 years ago

                OK. Since I'm not a nice guy, I'll drink it for you.

      2. Stormy Dragon   11 years ago

        Yes.

  16. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Did Patton torture that shellshocked soldier?

  17. gaijin   11 years ago

    WIlliam Wallace was tortured.

  18. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    They're being very cryptic about what's up with Foster. Is he the one who hacked Sony?

    1. Raven Nation   11 years ago

      FWIW: he tweeted today and yesterday retweeted something of Matt's:

      https://twitter.com/kmele

      1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

        that's what they want you to think.

        1. Raven Nation   11 years ago

          Ahh, wheels within wheels...

          1. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

            KMELE = ILLUMINATI

            Prove me wrong.

  19. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Um, I think I've seen enough episodes of 24 to have an informed opinion on torture.

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      THERE ISN'T ANY TIME!!!

      1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

        TELL ME WHERE THE REMOTE IS!

        1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

          IT'S IN THE BUTT HUMMUS!

  20. SweatingGin   11 years ago

    You know what would make Andy Levy talking about butt-hummus less terrible? Kmele beating the shit out of him.

  21. gaijin   11 years ago

    Ah, the poor interrogators.

  22. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    THEY'RE ALL WAFFLING ON TORTURE! Start interrogating the < i The Independents and they'll agree with you before the first fingernail gets pulled.

  23. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    I have a carry permit and I'm not allowed to carry while riding my quad on my own property.

    1. gaijin   11 years ago

      wut? you must be cali?

      1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

        The Great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

        1. gaijin   11 years ago

          ah, I think I knew this. Sorry for your state.

          1. DEG   11 years ago

            I grew up in PA. It has its benefits, but I don't plan to move back permenantly.

    2. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      does that count if you ride said quad sober?

      (can you (generic you, a person) ride a quad sober?)

      1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

        I had a visitor from NYC and he was amazed a) by riding an ATV and b) by firing a handgun. And, yes, we were all drinking at the time (but not drunk).

        Ah, rural America.

        1. GILMORE   11 years ago

          USA USA USA

    3. Stampede   11 years ago

      That only applies to long guns, right? I know you can't have a loaded long gun in a vehicle in PA, but handguns are OK (with a LTCF).

  24. JeremyR   11 years ago

    And on Fox Sports 1, they have an Iraqi woman fighting in UFC. (And about the only attractive one they've had all show)

    1. JeremyR   11 years ago

      Also, all the people who constantly make "brown people" remarks about the Middle East should really look at her. She's about as brown as vanilla ice cream.

      1. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

        If you want to look at a Middle Easterner, then you should look at Mia Khalifa.

        Just don't look at work.

        1. DEG   11 years ago

          Her implants make me sad.

          1. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

            What do you have against Transhumanism?

            1. gaijin   11 years ago

              hah! People are a good start.

            2. DEG   11 years ago

              I think implants look stupid. It's rare to find a good boob job.

              I'll take Anissa Kate (NSFW) instead.

              1. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

                Fair enough.

                1. DEG   11 years ago

                  Nice

                2. DEG   11 years ago

                  And if I could get her and Angela White in a threesome, that would be awesome beyond words.

                  1. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

                    She's pretty thick for someone with the name "White".

                    My reaction to this revelation?

                    1. DEG   11 years ago

                      True, she is a bit thick, but I just don't care.

            3. Scruffy Nerfherder   11 years ago

              Those implants were NBA approved.

    2. gaijin   11 years ago

      Motivated fighter Ima guess

  25. gaijin   11 years ago

    Justin Amash's bodily fluids....next on the Independents!

  26. GILMORE   11 years ago

    The Independents Attire Review, 12 December 2014

    Everything Has a Price-Edition

    - Kennedy: It strikes us that we've only rarely seen Kennedy in a full-blown "Red Dress" (shirt, blouse, on occasion); w/ her black hair, bleach-white skin really gives her an "intense" look that nothing else accomplishes. Its crazy hawt; we understand why it might be rare, however, as it might also be just a teensy-bit evocative of "scary-crazy-vampire-woman". Which Kennedy is totally, uh, definitely not. Very. So much.

    - Matt: New Suit. New Tie. Sensory Overload. Light Grey suits are our often-mentioned absolute favorites. Not sure about the weave on it (sharkskin?), but it looks like a good once-a week alternative to the Navy. With the pink tie, it does what the (now-deceased?) "Formula Suit" used to do, which was provide a lighthearted, casual-formal alternative. We think this would actually look best with his purple tie on white, or some of his Navy-ish tie options with either blue or white.

    - Kmele: If The Independents are contacted by "Dog The Bounty Hunter" over the course of the Weekend, do not be alarmed. He is on retainer until Kmele has been repatriated to the program. We recommend you don't give him any backtalk.

    Tanikiu

  27. SweatingGin   11 years ago

    This Amash interview really needs a bit wider circulation than an obscure libertarian show on Fox Business on a Friday night.

    1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

      And maybe they could edit out the construction noise in the background.

      1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

        I assumed it was a terrorist attack, which could have been prevented with enough butt-hummus.

    2. Winston   11 years ago

      an obscure libertarian show on Fox Business on a Friday night.

      What are you talking about? The Libertarian Moment is upon us.

    3. gaijin   11 years ago

      I agree, but with the Pineapple Express Storm, Mark Zuckerberg's intransigence on teh dislike button, and the Trillion Dollar Cromnibus, there just ISNT ANY ROOM in the MEDIA.

  28. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Welch's outfit looks like one of those artsy fartsy photographs where they make it monotone except for one color.

  29. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

    5 of every 4 coeds is raped - that poor 4th coed went back to the frat house to get more.

  30. Winston   11 years ago

    So what's Lizzie Warren's problem with the spending bill? Pretending to be a fiscal conservative for political expediency or not spending enough money?

    1. gaijin   11 years ago

      TEH WALL STREETZ!

    2. Raven Nation   11 years ago

      I think it "loosened" some proviso in Dodd-Frank which was her baby back in the day.

      1. GILMORE   11 years ago

        It lifted restrictions on prop-desk OTC swaps trading which would have required 3rd party intermediaries to broker them and 'make a market'

        the whole point of counter-party swaps is that there IS NO market in them and they are 1-1 contracts. There is no extant middle-market available that would suit their exchange. The rule is being ditched because the rule, like many in the legislation, failed to even understand the basic mechanics of what they thought they were regulating.

        1. Raven Nation   11 years ago

          I have no doubt Lizzie is wrong. And thanks for the info.

          My point was that she seems to have decided that this is a hill worth fighting on as it may improve her presidential cred as the candidate on the side of the "little people."

        2. Palin's Buttplug   11 years ago

          Gilmore is wrong again - but for the right reason!

          1. GILMORE   11 years ago

            Sure.

            like how the volker rule was passed without the authors realizing that it would have crushed the market for Municipal Bonds by banning banks from buying them for their own inventory to make a market. They belatedly made exceptions to prevent a massive sell off in municipal credit.

            Dodd Frank is a steaming pile of useless overly complex horseshit that does nearly nothing of any value. It certainly doesn't do anything to prevent any further asset bubbles, which the government seems to want to promote in perpetuity.

            I'm sure you can explain why the swaps restrictions were a great idea.

  31. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    BUT WHY? WHY CAN'T WE MAKE SHIT UP AND GET AWAY WITH IT? Welch isn't answering the question.

    1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

      That question is a MICRO-AGGRESSION.

      I'm reporting you.

      https://www.facebook.com/pumicroaggression

  32. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

    Janet Cooke: "Cooke resigned and returned the Prize. (It was awarded to Teresa Carpenter of The Village Voice.)[4] She appeared on the Phil Donahue show in January 1982 and said that the high-pressure environment of the Post had corrupted her judgment. She said that her sources had hinted to her about the existence of a boy such as Jimmy, but unable to find him, she eventually created a story about him in order to satisfy her editors."

  33. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Is Michael Bay directing this? Watch as the one camera keeps moving.

  34. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    IF MATT WELCH IS SO SMART WHY ISN'T CAVANAUGH AT REASON ANYMORE?

    1. DEG   11 years ago

      YES!

    2. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

      Because he sucks.

      1. Winston   11 years ago

        Which one? Both?

        1. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

          Schr?dinger's journalist.

  35. DEG   11 years ago

    Fuck these live streams. I even brought up my Windows VM, updated to the latest flash, and none of the streaming sites I found would play The Independents.

  36. gaijin   11 years ago

    Journalism is a profession only in the sense that you get paid.

  37. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

    I'm a big fan of the pink, white and beige combo/tones.

    Very Cote D'Azur/Ventimiglia; French/Italian Riviera.

    1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

      Yes that was an attire non-sequitur.

    2. Palin's Buttplug   11 years ago

      Please quit trying to impress the wingnuts here RF

  38. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Oh, I thought the car owner himself bragged about that tag.

  39. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    "Musician friend"

    1. GILMORE   11 years ago

      Matthew has also been offering great online discounts on equipment, instruments and accessories for years now

      http://www.musiciansfriend.com/

  40. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    I like that historian who told Imus that Barack Obama had the highest IQ of all presidents but had to admit he didn't know what Obama's IQ was.

    1. Palin's Buttplug   11 years ago

      Obama can form a complete sentence unlike Dumbta.

      Clinton is the smartest Pres since 1900 though.

      1. gaijin   11 years ago

        oh, look. It's Friday, you can do better than that.

      2. BigT   11 years ago

        Clinton?? Haha - he couldn't even get away with a hummer. he was so smart he squirted on the dress. Yeah, real clever. Just a dumbass frat boy.

      3. NotAnotherSkippy   11 years ago

        Bestest speakerator ever!

      4. MJGreen   11 years ago

        That's uhh... umm, well... that is... you know, that's true.

    2. gaijin   11 years ago

      BUT WHY? WHY CAN'T WE MAKE SHIT UP AND GET AWAY WITH IT?

      Seems to apply to that guy too.

  41. gaijin   11 years ago

    Stupid, smart. How can you tell with people whose every word is generally scripted?

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder   11 years ago

      The real question is can he pass the Turing test?

      1. gaijin   11 years ago

        The Simulacra is a how to manual?!

  42. Agile Cyborg   11 years ago

    mOST people on reason rarely post fucked up on shrooms, tabs, christmas bud, or copious amounts of booze...

    But when you consider reasons history... it seems rather unfair that I get my shit censored and erased from this site and no one else does...

    My gauntlet is... how many libertarian anarchist fuk the gov types have are not allowd to get travellin' on astral dolphins on this site?

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder   11 years ago

      You'll have to ride the dragon for me.

      1. Agile Cyborg   11 years ago

        Dear, I truly do actually behave so fucking well... The wife and visited Chicago few weeks back and my goddam ass was thrown out le' Goddfrey lounge... for fancy dancin on many shots o' the sweet bourbon and fuck cousin whisky... spent like 3k on that whole weekend... ended up eating short ribs and lobster mushrooms at that skinny bitch Enews lounge RPM steak... great fuckin food.. tho...

        went dancin at untitled... did NOT get thrown out... ONLY becuz my wife is absolutly gorgwa' and I did small talk with the cop bouncer...

        My mexican bartender was soo fuckin awesonme... BEST ol fashions with hot sauce... I bought many... I tipped my dude 50.

        Chicago saved itself or I would've hated the bitch.

    2. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

      Aw, are they memory holing your stuff? I don't support that.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder   11 years ago

        What I want to know is how AC remembers that he posted anything.

        1. Wasteland Wanderer   11 years ago

          Maybe he hallucinated posting, and so when he comes down off the astral dolphins and doesn't see any of his "posts" he thinks he's been memory-holed.

      2. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

        Sun titties should have been preserved for all time. FOR ALL TIME!

    3. DEG   11 years ago

      All of my posts that aren't made during working hours are done after having some alcohol in me. None of my posts have been deleted. Yet.

    4. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      I am so not the drunkest here. Fuck those astral dolphins.

      1. DEG   11 years ago

        Like I said up above, I need to try harder.

  43. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Crisswell, if you love KC Store so much why don't you just marry it?

  44. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    But not releasing Spider-Man.

  45. SweatingGin   11 years ago

    Okay, Kennedy and Welch... you're getting in the way of Rush

  46. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    No one can tame Sanders' glorious mane of hair.

  47. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

    If Bernie Sanders isn't the Platonic Form of a pedophile, I don't know who is.

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      Mark Foley?

      wait... Socrates?

      1. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

        Socrates

        Winner.

    2. GILMORE   11 years ago

      I think Lindsey Graham looks more like an actual child molester

      he has that creepy southern "10yr old boyish" face that never grows up, and just looks more and more 'creepy/scary'.

      i see him watching snuff films and sniffing glue with ralph reed

      1. Palin's Buttplug   11 years ago

        Fat Rush - real child molestor.

        1. GILMORE   11 years ago

          Perhaps with counseling you'll be able to get over it.

  48. Francisco d'Anconia   11 years ago

    How bout term limits to defang the korporationz?

  49. Francisco d'Anconia   11 years ago

    You simply steal it, of course.

  50. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Did Sanders just use the word reality?

  51. SweatingGin   11 years ago

    Bzzz... time for Rush!

  52. PapayaSF   11 years ago

    I was just at Mother Jones for some reason, and a commenter was complaining about Bernie Sanders being a right-winger because the US doesn't really have a left. He got lots of upvotes.

    1. Sevo   11 years ago

      PapayaSF|12.12.14 @ 9:51PM|#
      "I was just at Mother Jones for some reason,"..

      Being that you are in SF, I first took that literally, that you had dropped by their offices, since I think their editorial office is still here, right?
      Uh, launch another window, select bing, type in...
      And look there! That rag is no longer published as a for-profit magazine, but as a lefty 'competitor' to Reason.
      Wanna bet the IRS gave 'em a pass?

      1. PapayaSF   11 years ago

        I only visit digitally.

  53. gaijin   11 years ago

    And the top 1% pays what part of the Federal tax bull?

    1. Francisco d'Anconia   11 years ago

      36.73%

  54. Francisco d'Anconia   11 years ago

    Yes, America should be about socialism.

  55. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

    Sanders is laughing at Kennedy.

    Not a good sign.

    1. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

      She's kicking his ass.

      1. gaijin   11 years ago

        It's like beating up a retard though isn;t it?

        1. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

          You could actually see his face turning red as the interview went on.

        2. Francisco d'Anconia   11 years ago

          "like"?

      2. DEG   11 years ago

        Kennedy moonlights as a dominatrix?

  56. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

    If we do it intelligently! THIS TIME IT WILL BE DIFFERENT.

    DIFFERENT!!!!!!

  57. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    If you didn't reach your goal, you just didn't shovel enough tax dollars at it.

  58. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

    I bet you Bernie is bare foot while conducting this interview.

    1. Palin's Buttplug   11 years ago

      Dipshit - what does that mean?

      1. Francisco d'Anconia   11 years ago

        What are you fucking stupid?

      2. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

        It means he gets results, you stupid chief!

  59. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Sanders in the race can only make the Democrats look better in comparison.

  60. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

    Come back, Sanders...unless you're *chicken!*

  61. Sheriff Bart   11 years ago

    WTF, Kennedy? College should be free for everyone? What a stupid idea...

    Does she float that often?

    1. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

      You almost got me....almost.

    2. GILMORE   11 years ago

      Shhh! She's trying to be nice to the crazy old communist

    3. Agile Cyborg   11 years ago

      Kennedy is a bee zipping about in the halls of horrible fox tryin not 2 be devoured... CNN would just stamp out the life of our sweet lovely Kennedy who I offer my bed 2 with a super sweet and gorgeous blonde called my wifo

  62. Sheriff Bart   11 years ago

    I bet if we added up Bernie's 12 point plan it would equal zero...

    1. DEG   11 years ago

      You're generous.

      1. Sheriff Bart   11 years ago

        I get soft hearted at Christmastime...

    2. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

      12. The world "twelve" has six letters. Half of six is three. A triangle has three sides. Two triangles would have six sides. The Star of David is composed of two triangles. The Star of David has six points. Bernie Sanders is the the son of Polish Jewish immigrants. His plan has 12 points = 2 Jewish Stars. 2 Jewish Stars signifies the close relationship between the United States and Israel. Israel is roughly triangular.

      ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED

      Prove me wrong!

      1. DEG   11 years ago

        You have a newsletter?

        1. Agile Cyborg   11 years ago

          Every human called Heroik has a newsletter somewhar you naive child of the sea.

      2. Suddenly Quincy   11 years ago

        I like the cut of your gibberish.

        1. Sevo   11 years ago

          Suddenly Quincy|12.12.14 @ 10:51PM|#
          "I like the cut of your gibberish."

          I'm stealing that.

          1. Suddenly Quincy   11 years ago

            Talk to The Tick.

  63. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    AH! Lou Dobbs.

  64. GILMORE   11 years ago

    Sha la la la DOOOOOOOOOOOOOBS

  65. Francisco d'Anconia   11 years ago

    Christ, Harry Reid is a fucking weasel.

    1. Agile Cyborg   11 years ago

      H.Reid is a feckless lout who'd normally be the homeless vagrant on planet devoid seeking child legs if this was 3015.

      1. Sevo   11 years ago

        Right!
        I think...
        I am sure he is without feck, so there is that.

      2. Irish   11 years ago

        H.Reid is a feckless lout who'd normally be the homeless vagrant on planet devoid seeking child legs if this was 3015.

        I am laughing so hard right now. You're a God among men, AC!

  66. DEG   11 years ago

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkB1X7pfDeU

  67. Winston   11 years ago

    http://reason.com/blog/2014/04.....-2016-im-t
    And it means taking seriously politicians as different as Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), the libertarian-leaning Tea Party favorite, and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), the socialist former mayor of Burlington. At least these guys are talking about the future, rather than enacting a weird dance with the past.

    1. Agile Cyborg   11 years ago

      Winston is verb worm opening hatches into previous sentences... hes a fuckin thread reveler... with a battery runnin' on infovestigations.

      1. Winston   11 years ago

        Could you translate Finnegan's Wake for me?

      2. SweatingGin   11 years ago

        Agile, have I told you lately I love you?

      3. SweatingGin   11 years ago

        Agile, have I told you lately I love you?

        1. Agile Cyborg   11 years ago

          Any man that sweats gin I revel in le love of...

          1. Winston   11 years ago

            Does Hogarth mean nothing to you?

          2. SweatingGin   11 years ago

            okay, window licker.

  68. Agile Cyborg   11 years ago

    Can we discuss le' burppage Indiepoopers?

    1. DEG   11 years ago

      Ja

  69. Winston   11 years ago

    Why is 10 PM ET the libertarian curfew?

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      Only on Friday...

      ...cause we're fucking old...

      1. Sevo   11 years ago

        SweatingGin|12.12.14 @ 10:36PM|#
        "Only on Friday...
        ...cause we're fucking old..."

        You EST guys bail EARLY; by 10PM WST, there is no one except Tony (and the other lefty twits) trying to sneak in comments that they hope no one sees.

        1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

          Protip: put on rush, it'll be okay.

          1. Sevo   11 years ago

            Rush? Naaah.....

            1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

              fuck you.

    2. Suddenly Quincy   11 years ago

      Not a curfew, Time of the Cyborg.

      1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

        I'm hanging up

      2. Irish   11 years ago

        I don't know why anyone wouldn't want to look at this site around the time that Agile Cyborg starts dipping into the LSD.

        Literally the best part of Reason is when Cyborg goes nuts between 9:30 and 10:30.

        1. DEG   11 years ago

          It's after 10:30, so the party's over. I'm going to sober up. I'll find out tomorrow morning if any of Cyborg's prose gets deleted.

        2. SweatingGin   11 years ago

          Don't get me wrong. I fucking love the cyborg...

          The cyborg mostly comes... at night.

      3. SweatingGin   11 years ago

        1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAzTnsSgs2s

  70. Agile Cyborg   11 years ago

    Reasons attracts the brightst man and woman... gorgeous minds.. eruditola... nanosharp.. sugarsweet... curvacious...mobius...escherlike... but the uppers on this lit pile are prepfucks and schooled... and not terribly worldy... or ...wordly...

    sorry man in black... best site on the web can getbetter....

    oooooooooooooooooooooooooh banhammer cummeth

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      ^ Should have sent a poet

  71. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    Egyptian claims there are 7 Jews on the US Supreme Court, thus proving America is a Zionist puppet:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek18RY3s9lI

    2 seconds on Google would show there are only 3 Jews currently serving.

    1. Winston   11 years ago

      Nah, SCOTUS is a Papist puppet. The Know Nothings were right!

    2. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      Obviously, I mean, look what they did to my Christmas lights.

      1. DEG   11 years ago

        Bastards

        1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

          FUCK YOU!

          OH look! Whiskey got in.

          1. DEG   11 years ago

            I didn't think I was that drunk. I don't remember posting "Bastards".

    3. Sevo   11 years ago

      Three, seven, who's worried about the details?
      What, is this chopped liver?

  72. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    Imam denounces Jews; Jews riot and threaten his life. Oh wait, they did nothing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w9fPNXH9DU

  73. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    Muslim professor claims ISIS is Israeli conspiracy. The Proof? ISIS can stand for Israeli Secret Intelligence Service.

    This stands a good chance of being the dumbest conspiracy theory to come out of the Muslim world for at least 24 hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBCJopqZTSg

    1. Derpetologist   11 years ago

      I forgot the cherry on top: they claim the leader of ISIS is actually a Jew named Simon Eliot. He was trained by Mossad to infiltrate the terrorists and make Muslims look bad.

      Yeah, that makes sense.

      OK, derp overload. I'm going to play pool.

      1. Sevo   11 years ago

        Derpetologist|12.12.14 @ 11:17PM|#
        "I forgot the cherry on top: they claim the leader of ISIS is actually a Jew named Simon Eliot. He was trained by Mossad to infiltrate the terrorists and make Muslims look bad."

        But who was the man on the grassy knoll???

        1. Suddenly Quincy   11 years ago

          JFK himself egged on by Lester?

          1. seguin   11 years ago

            +1 smeg

        2. seguin   11 years ago

          Dr. Who?

  74. trshmnster the terrible   11 years ago

    wait, Eric Garner wasn't the first? Color me shocked

  75. Sevo   11 years ago

    Prolly been linked before, but I missed it. Ray Stevens has a comment on Obo's budget:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6TcpfBHlbs

  76. seguin   11 years ago

    Probably has been posted already, but:

    Ferguson, MO to close budget gap with more tickets.

  77. zacharybaughandes   11 years ago

    Natalie . even though Steven `s artlclee is nice... I just purchased Peugeot 205 GTi after earning $6824 thiss month and-even more than, ten grand this past-month . with-out any question its my favourite job Ive had .
    Best way to keep join======== http://www.jobsfish.com

  78. userve32   11 years ago

    The Feds seem to have WAY too much spare time on their hands lol.

    http://www.AnonPlanet.tk

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