Crime

A False Remedy for Sex Offenders

Draconian laws offer counterfeit comfort.

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At age 14, J.L. impregnated his girlfriend in a consensual encounter. This was bad news on several grounds, the worst being that she was 15 months younger. Convicted of rape for having sex with a 12-year-old, he will have to register as a sex offender—for the rest of his life.

Last month, the South Dakota Supreme Court upheld the verdict, while admitting it made little sense. "Application of the first-degree rape statute to the present facts does not create an unintended absurdity," the justices concluded. The absurdity must have been deliberate.

J.L. isn't the only person to be ensnared by ridiculous interpretations of laws affecting sex offenders. A Michigan man convicted in 1984 of rape was supposed to report his home address to police after getting out of prison in 2002. Being homeless, he tried to comply by providing the address of a homeless shelter where he got his meals.

Not good enough, said the Michigan Supreme Court a few weeks ago. It said he can be sent back to jail for failing to file the address of whatever spot he laid his head each night.

Sex offender registries once sounded like an urgent necessity. They came in reaction to publicized crimes in which children died at the hands of convicted sex offenders. One of the most shocking involved a 7-year-old New Jersey girl, Megan Kanka, who in 1994 was raped and strangled by a paroled child molester living across the street from her home.

New Jersey enacted "Megan's Law," subjecting sex offenders to registration and community notification, so police and citizens would be aware of known risks. Today, all 50 states maintain registries and make at least some of the information available to the public.

But this was a reasonable notion that has been damaged by indiscriminate expansion. It's one thing to notify neighbors when a serial rapist moves in. Many states, however, lump frisky teens in with violent adults. Others, reports Jacob Sullum in Reason magazine, include mopes who were caught trolling for prostitutes or urinating in public.

Some states also put broad curbs on where convicted sex offenders may live.

In Miami, many of them have taken up residence under a causeway for lack of an alternative. This outcome may not warrant sympathy, but it makes it harder for police and citizens to keep tabs on them.

Such flaws would be of minimal consequence if the laws served to prevent crime. The surprising revelation is they don't.

A 2008 report funded by the Justice Department found the original Megan's Law in New Jersey to be a non-event. The policy, researchers documented, "showed no demonstrable effect in reducing sexual re-offenses" and "has no effect on reducing the number of victims involved in sexual offenses." The zero effect had a cost above zero—nearly $4 million annually for the 15 counties included in the study.

A more comprehensive study was undertaken by Amanda Agan, a doctoral candidate in economics at the University of Chicago, and published recently in the Journal of Law and Economics. Analyzing data from across the country, she detected no tangible gains from this approach.

"Rates of sex offense do not decline after the introduction of a registry or public access to a registry via the Internet, nor do sex offenders appear to recidivate less when released into states with registries," she writes. Evidence from Washington, D.C. shows no connection between the number of sex offenders on a block and the rate of sex crimes.

That doesn't mean you and I are crazy to prefer knowing about the pedophile next door. But it suggests the information offers no actual benefit.

After all, most convicted sex offenders do not go on to be arrested for new sex offenses, and more than 90 percent of child victims are assaulted not by strangers but by relatives or other people they know.

Sex offender registries may cause parents to focus on the remote peril while ignoring the more pertinent one. And, as in the examples cited earlier, they can inflict harsh punishment that departs from common sense and does nothing for public safety.

Shielding citizens from vicious predators is unquestionably one of the central functions of any sound government. Megan's Laws were enacted in the sensible pursuit of that goal. What they offer in practice, though, is counterfeit comfort.

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  1. Sanity?
    “MILTON ? In a media culture in which little is considered private, teens don’t always understand the consequences of sending and receiving sexual messages online.

    That’s one reason Chittenden County State’s Attorney T.J. Donovan said he has signed off on sending 18 Milton students to the juvenile reparative board rather than seeking criminal charges against them.

    The students, as well as four others against whose identities could not be confirmed, used school computers to conduct so-called sexting last winter, authorities say.

    “These are young kids with the rest of their lives in front of them,” Donovan said Thursday. “We need to educate them about the perils of technology.”

    Vermont passed a law in 2009 that permits prosecutors to send teenage “sexting” cases to juvenile courts to eliminate the stigma of child pornography convictions. Donovan cited that law when explaining his reasoning not to prosecute the teens. Criminal charges could have led the teens involved to be labeled as sex offenders, which would have serious consequences for them as adults trying to find jobs. ”

    http://www.burlingtonfreepress…..dyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

    1. “The perils of technology?” Hell every time you try to fly on a plane the government takes a picture of your junk.

      Why should it even go to juvenile court? This is just a modern version of “you show me yours and I’ll show you mine.” Should be up to parents on how to handle.

      1. “hey, kids, knock that shit off.”

        Re-apply as needed.

      2. no shit. now, if you’re a 16 year old guy who has a picture of your 16 year old girlfriend, you’re in possession of child porn, and she’s guilty of distributing it. Used to be you got your ass beat by your dad if you got caught with things like that, now you have to register as a potential danger to society for the rest of your life.

        For God’s sake, there are actual bad guys out there who want to do actual horrible disgusting deplorable things to children. Shouldn’t we be focusing on that?

        1. My dad didn’t beat my ass, he just asked for copies.

  2. We are all sex offenders now.

    1. I’m a sex defender actually.

      1. So you’re a bottom?

        Frank: What’s a power bottom?

        Mac: A power bottom is a bottom that is capable of receiving an enormous amount of power.

        Dennis: Actually, Mac, you got it backwards. You see, a power bottom’s actually generating all the power by doing most of the work.

        Frank: Does the power have to do with the size or the strength of the bottom?

        Mac: Now, Dennis, I’ve heard that speed has something to do with it.

        Dennis: Speed has everything to do with it. You see the speed of the bottom informs the top how much pressure he’s supposed to apply. Speed’s the name of the game. Right, buddy?

        1. Who needs a philosophy when pop-culture quotes explain everything?

    2. I think the idea behind the new lingerie for kids is that an unmarked patrol car will follow every mail truck, and as soon as the resident takes the catalog out of his mail box the cop will arrest him for possession of kiddie porn. This way they will get every US citizen on a sex offender registry, and legally track every one of us.

      1. I was in Best Buy the other day and was browsing through the PC games section when I noticed a rather old and sleazey looking man grab an entirely pink game box off the nearby shelf and walk away. Curious, I investigated the remaining pink games at that spot and came to realize that he had bought the “Official Hello Kitty MMORPG”!

        I had the fight the sudden urge to dive tackle the fucker right at the check out counter! I realize that I shouldn’t judge people so easily but in my defense I’ll swear to whatever you find holy that the guy looked like a Brooklyn Back Alley Serial Rapist and that was what I thought BEFORE he grabbed that game!

        ANYONE who buys ANYTHING Hello Kitty and is not female or gay should IMMEDIATELY be locked up as a sex offender ESPECIALLY if you’re buying the Official Sanrio MMO!

        1. Absolutely! Lock the guy up!

          ‘Cuz he couldn’t have been buying the game for his daughter, or his 11 year old girlfriend, now could he?

          1. I did say THAT I SHOULDN’T JUDGE PEOPLE SO EASILY, didn’t I?

            Even before I saw him buying the Hello Kitty MMO I was intentionally keeping a good distance from the smells-like-a-fish-house-dumpster wildman because his very presence was making me nervous and I was ten years in the military!

            1. Dude, hae you even PLAYED the Hello Kitty MMORPG? It’s an epic adventure with state-of-the-art graphics and gameplay innovation like you’ve never seen. Forget EVERYTHING you know about MMORPGs.

  3. Juvenile reparative board? WTF is that? Sounds like a re-education camp.

    1. Yes. That’s right.

  4. ya know, we could keep better track of child molesters and rapists if we put them where they should go: into a damn grave.

    but seriously, if you aren’t an adult, you shouldn’t have to register as a danger to others. and, if you are an adult who is still considered a danger to others, why the hell should we let them out of jail? what the hell is this, Norway?

    1. Exactly. If someone has paid thier debt to society and is not dangerous, they should be able to get on with their life without being tormented for eternity. And if they are truly dangerous they should not be running around free.

    2. ya know, we could keep better track of child molesters and rapists if we put them where they should go: into a damn grave.

      That, of course, was the real intent of Megan’s Law. Government officials, who may have wanted sex offenders put down like dogs but were afraid the ACLU might hear about it, decided to make the names and addresses of sex offenders public so as to goad viligantes into doing their dirty work for them.

  5. You know, I really don’t have any sympathy for sex offenders. None, nada, zip. Being the mom of a 3 year old and a 5 year old, I want to know when a sex offender moves into the neighborhood. Every couple of months I check the registry online for my area. It lists the crime committed. I have yet to see one that lists solicitation or pandering. They are all for crimes against children under the age of 14, rape, or sexual battery. Sorry, but someone who rapes another or someone who commits a sexual crime against a child should be ostracized and it should follow them through their lives. I don’t believe a child sexual predator can be rehabilitated.

    1. Then they shouldn’t be released from jail. Ever. And since our criminal justice system is perfect, this will never affect an innocent person. Let ’em rot, right Miss Mori?

      1. They should rot. I have no problem with locking up rapists/child molesters for life.

        I didn’t say the criminal justice system was perfect or that innocent people have never been convicted. Why should the remedy for wrongfully convicted individuals be for those who are guilty to be given shorter sentences, no sentences, no probation, or scrapping of the sex offenders data registries?

        1. Also, you know that the sex offender registry consists of more than just rapists, right?

        2. again, you are missing the point of the article (almost as if you read the title, then skipped to the comments section). There are people on the registry right now who should not be. Kids, even. That’s why you’re getting flamed here. the remedy is to recognize that an 18 year old sleeping with a 17 year old shouldn’t be listed on that registry for the rest of their life. Likewise, those registries don’t present facts of the case, which are often times overlooked by overzealous judges so they can lock up another danger. example, you ask? There was a case in Oregon where a 21 year old was arrested for sleeping with a 16 year old that he had met in a bar. She had a fake ID. she admitted to the judge that she lied about her age. her mother testified that she has a really bad habit of lying about her age to sleep with older guys. 21 year old sentenced to three years, and has to register as a sex offender everywhere he lives. He’s not a rapist. He’s not a predator. He’s on that list.

          you have no sympathy for rapists or child molesters. I agree with you here. The problem is that these registries are filled with people who don’t belong.

        3. No one is asking for shorter sentences etc. for those who can be PROVEN GUILTY. Those are the keywords here, “proven guilty”. If se x offenses were tried the same as other crimes it wouldn’t even be an issue. All someone has to do is point a finger and “say” someone did something. There is NO BURDEN OF PROOF, when it comes to someone being tried for a s e x offense. It is up to the accused to prove that they are innocent, or they are going to prison and on the registry. How do you prove you didn’t do something that never happened? Get my drift? For example I know a young man who met and fell for a young lady when he was 17, she told him she was 16 and he was pretty naive and never questioned what she said. A year later the police were at his door and he was arrested. Turns out she wrote in her diary that they had sex. Mom found 14-year-old’s diary and pressed charges. He took a plea bargain because he had no money for a lawyer. Short story, lifetime registry, no job, no school, no home, no future. Stories like this make up at least 20% of those on the registry that translates to hundreds of thousands of young lives ruined, permanently. He was a young man in love who never even touched the girl other than to hold hands or kiss. He was shy then, he stays completely away from women altogether now and pretty much distrusts everyone.

        4. The registry, in order to be effective needs to be returned to its original purpose, to track dangerous offenders who are a threat to society. It was also originally for the eyes of law enforcement officials only. When it became a public registry, it became nothing more than a hit list for vigilantes. What earthly purpose does posting a persons license plate and vehicle description serve other than making that vehicle a target? They require the offender to register every vehicle that they “might possibly” ever ride in. That means that if the offender’s wife or even a friend of the family uses that vehicle to drive their children to school, they are subject to any idiot who decides to “rid the earth of the scum”. The “public” has proven without a doubt that it is incapable of handling a public registry. In effect, every time an offender is harassed, threatened, ostracized, injured or murdered, the registry is one step closer to being “scrapped”!

    2. Also, don’t let these facts get in the way of your anecdotes.

      1. Did you actually say, “neener neener neener” at the screen while typing that?

        1. Why on earth would I do that? Did you actually read the article and still make this comment:

          You know, I really don’t have any sympathy for sex offenders. None, nada, zip.

          Because despite your lovely anecdote, the facts are that non-rapists and non-pedophiles are currently “sex offenders”.

          If your point is “raping kids is bad, mmmkay.” Then… thanks.

          1. SoCA Mom, you realize that statically your kids are more likely to get molested and raped by your own husband or brother than by random pedos in the neighborhood right? You understand that right?

            1. She also needs to know that her children are even MORE likely of ending up on the registry themselves that ever being molested or raped by ANYONE!

    3. someone who rapes another or someone who commits a sexual crime against a child should be ostracized and it should follow them through their lives

      So then, you would agree that a 16 year old girl who sends a 16 year old boy a pic of bare chest both deserve to be on the registry? Afterall, they did commit a “sex crime.” And according to your position, they deserve to wear the scarlet letter for the rest of their lives.

      1. You are assuming a lot about what I believe and do not believe. I stated very clearly, ‘rapists and child molesters.”

        1. When I was 5, a 15 year old girl had me pull down my pants and played around with my penis. I don’t think she should be jailed for it.

          It didn’t bother me any.

          Now if I had been viciously raped by some guy in the ass who wouldn’t take no for an answer, I’d feel differently I’m sure.

          But I’m sure you’d think that girl should be locked up for life, even though I’m 30 now I still don’t think she should have been punished by the state, and never have.

        2. Actually, you said “sex offenders”. You then equated that term with “rapists and child molestors” and ignored the point of the article, which is that many people who are neither of those things are on the registry.

        3. Do you realize that most teen boys who are convicted of having consensual sex with their girlfriends are considered “rapists, or child molesters” by the law and are classified as such on the registry?

    4. “You know, I really don’t have any sympathy for sex offenders” – And this has what to do with sex offender registries?

      Troll or the face of why we will never have a free society?

      1. There’s a sexual predator behind every blade of grass! You must hover over your kids every second of the day! It’s fer da childrenz! That justifies anything!

        1. The grass itself is a sexual predator. How do you think grass stains work?

        2. Including shriek and his pal, the christfag. No wonder shriek rags on him all the time.

        3. The ignorance is amazing. The same woman who is so sure the stranger down the block is going to molest her children will bring any and every old boyfriend home.

          Kids are almost never molested by biological parents or strangers. You want your kid to have the best chance of not getting molested, never get divorced.

          1. The best way to keep your kids safe is a big wall around the community and put them outside it.

            Let the mongolians raise them…

            fuckin mongorians, tear down my shitty wall!

    5. Or how about the 18 year old boy who sleeps with his 17 year old girlfriend? That’s a sex crime, they both deserve to punished until they die right?

      Or the guy who urinates on a dumpster behind a bar? Yeah, that’s an offense that deserves a lifetime of punishment and harassment.

      I’m sorry if my sanity is getting in the way of you parenting the world supermom.

    6. “”Being the mom of a 3 year old and a 5 year old, I want to know when a sex offender moves into the neighborhood. “”

      I get that. But wouldn’t you want to know that the sex offeneder is really the kind of sex offender you’re thinking instead of some 18 year old that had a 17 year old girlfriend? The issue most of us has on H&R is that the list is becoming so broad that you don’t know if they are actually dangerous or not.

      1. No, some of us have a problem with its existence. You do not have a right to take my money in order to create / enlarge a bureaucracy to monitor kiddie perps and inform you where they live. Sorry.

        Horrors! A kiddie perp is in the neighborhood! How will we survive?

      2. Your mistake here, Vic, is treating a troll like a human being.

    7. You did read the article, right? With all of that evidence that doesn’t exactly square with what you’re saying?

    8. I think felony or sex-crime records should be “wiped” after the punishment (jail time, etc) has been completed.

      The person in question was found guilty of something, they did the time, but they have to live the rest of their lives branded as a criminal?

      1. (of course I forgot misdemeanors, etc). Criminal records certainly make getting a job more difficult, especially if society seeks to rehabilitate the criminal.

      2. But, but SEX

        This country is still recovering from all those uptight Protestants who felt that anything pleasurable was wrong.
        Besides, sex is icky.
        It’s…. SEX

        1. Butt secks? Where is Steve Smith on this issue?

          1. Penises!

            Vaginas!

            Butt Sex!

            I CAN’T STAND YOU LITTLE BASTARDS BEING SO CALM!

      3. [I think felony or sex-crime records should be “wiped” after the punishment (jail time, etc) has been completed.]

        To what end. I think any criminal record, in addition to any cival proceeding should be accessible. The only possible exception michg be matters of public security. As a potential employer, spouse, neighbor, coworker, whatever, I can peruse your past stupidity much as you can peruse mine. Why are property tax and bankruptcy records available but not how much you fucked Monsanto over your Roundup lawsuit? For sure ANY criminal case record should be downloadable, from Anthony Weiner’s to Chucky Mansons.

      4. I think that people who commit crimes not because of bad judgment or circumstances, but because they’re fucked in the head, should probably not be let out unless someone invents a cure for being fucked in the head.

        Punishment is only part of the point of prison, the other part is protection of innocents.

        1. There have been cases where sex offenders were let out if they volunteer to be chemically castrated. Might sound harsh and unconstitutional, but in reality is a much better outcome then having to die after being in jail for 60 years.

    9. I clicked on this article with the same predetermined conclusions that you apparently have: “fuck child molesters, fuck rapists, post their names everywhere.”

      then I read the article and saw that they aren’t talking about sexual predators, but about a law (designed with the best intentions) is being abused to lock up children who do exactly what we all did as kids. the only difference is that we didn’t have the internet or cell phones to assist us in our adolescent adventures.

      we had playboy and hustler, which we had to steal from our older brother’s room, which he stole from our dad’s room. should we lock up every kid whoever looked at a playboy, too?

      my point is, next time, read the article all the way through. and to use your own ridiculous “I haven’t seen it anywhere” argument, I’ve never seen white cops beat up a black guy. sure, there’s news stories all over the place, but I have never seen them, so it must not be happening, and I have no sympathy for anyone beaten for “resisting arrest.” see how ridiculous that sounds?

      1. “best intentions”?

        Yeah, to furhter enslave.

    10. Obvious troll is obvious.

    11. “They are all for crimes against children under the age of 14, ”

      Does it say whether or not they were 15 at the time?

    12. Of course, sex offenders have a very low rate of re-offense compared to perpetrators of other types of crimes, and “rape” includes consensual encounters between an 18 year old and her 17 year old boyfriend – but that is of no consequence! The law says it is rape, so it must be rape!

  6. A 2008 report funded by the Justice Department found the original Megan’s Law in New Jersey to be a non-event. The policy, researchers documented, “showed no demonstrable effect in reducing sexual re-offenses” and “has no effect on reducing the number of victims involved in sexual offenses.” The zero effect had a cost above zero?nearly $4 million annually for the 15 counties included in the study.

    Since when has that had anything to do with it? It’s all about how we feeeeeeel!

    1. Especially with what I FEEL with my penis!

    2. Especially with what I FEEL with my penis!

      1. Fucking H&R server squirrels making me short stroke!

  7. In the picture, they all have the same tent. Do they run group discounts over at pervs-r-us or something?

  8. Chapman, he’s out to catch a predator!

  9. One is a moral pigmy if one would prefer to keep all of the alleged kiddie touchers in jail if one were given the choice between that or the elimination of the FBI, IRS, DEA, FAA, EPA, CIA and NSA and the FED and the income tax and the estate tax.

    1. Um. OK. But who here suggested that false dichotomy? Mike, you are a holier-than-thou prick every time you post.

      1. Um, its not a false dichtomy. Prove me wrong-do you think that every poster here would support the elimination of the lists, immediately and be prepared to scorn and mock all of the parasites screaming for its return?

        1. Another Phil, an anarcho-free enterprise-individualist, by definition, can not be a holier than thou prick, dopey.

          If you want to look at kiddie porn, be my guest, mother fucker-I will not be part of the posse coming to castrate you.

          If you want to smoke dope, snort cocaine, and take extra doses of that Ritalin and Zoloft you have been prescribed for years, go right ahead-be my guest. Rest assured I will not be the neighbor who dials 5-0.

          Just to show you I am not a holier than thou prick, I will admit that I actually cheered for Ron Paul, a republican party politician. I hate republican party politicians.

          Fuck off, slaver.

  10. As with so many other structures intended to protect the public, the sex offender registries lack common sense. As a parent I can search the registry, I can see the sex offenders living near me. I can check on the age of the offender and the level of the crime committed. I can use my best judgment to know who I should be worried about…but I cannot watch my children 24 hours a day. I cannot control whether a sex offender walks past my house. What I CAN do is take steps to educate my children on exactly what they should do if an adult tries to take them from our back yard or the school sidewalk against their will. I can teach them to protect their information online when they’re old enough to be playing on the internet. I can make sure I don’t let them play in the front yard if I’m back in the barn and can’t reasonably see or hear them. There are all kinds of steps I can take.

    I fail to see how requiring a teenager who impregnated his girlfriend in a consensual act or two kids who sent naked photos to each other to register alongside *actual* criminals makes any sense whatsoever.

    1. Not quite. If you were a father with a pretty daughter and you found out she had a black boyfriend, it was easy to deal with it in the old days—you and the boys found out where he lived and strung him up. No court in the land would have convicted you.

      Now you can’t do that any more, you see to it the kid gets his name on the official list of perverts, and leave it to a victim of real abuse with anger issues to do your dirty work for you.

      1. racist concern troll is racist.

    2. The real problem is the living restrictions. Like saying they can’t live near a school is going to prevent a real hard core nut from doing something. Moreover, the chances of a stranger molesting a kid are very low. I can see the point of these registries if they were confined to real no shit sex crimes and were only there for informational purposes. If you start dating a guy and you have kids, I could see where you might want to know that he is a convicted child molester. But, I see no reason why you should care that the guy three doors down whom you have told your kids to stay away from and have made no effort to contact, is a child molester.

    3. The real problem is the living restrictions. Like saying they can’t live near a school is going to prevent a real hard core nut from doing something. Moreover, the chances of a stranger molesting a kid are very low. I can see the point of these registries if they were confined to real no shit sex crimes and were only there for informational purposes. If you start dating a guy and you have kids, I could see where you might want to know that he is a convicted child molester. But, I see no reason why you should care that the guy three doors down whom you have told your kids to stay away from and have made no effort to contact, is a child molester.

      1. Yeah, the living restrictions make no sense. I’m pretty sure most child molesters are quite capable of walking a few blocks to the playground, or whatever. Basically, the rules are saying that while they are asleep they have to stay away from children, but during the day they can do what they want. Makes no sense except as extra, piled-on extra-judicial punishment.

    4. It’s not supposed to make sense.
      Like frisking grandma before she gets on a plane. Everyone knows she’s not a threat. Everyone knows that the guy who screwed his now-wife in high school is not a threat.

      It’s about an illusion of safety.

      Politicians are supposed to do something.
      If they aren’t doing something then they are doing nothing.
      Something, anything, is better than nothing.

      Well, not really. But that’s what most people seem to think feel.

      1. It is supposed to make us feel better and forget the fact that sometimes there are no good choices.

        1. If they are a threat to society, remove them from society.
          If they are not a threat to society, leave them alone.
          That was easy!

          1. The problem is that we really dont’ know who is a threat going forward and who is not. It is a tough call. So rather than make it and live with the times we fuck up, we do this shit and pretend we don’t have to make the choice.

            1. Perhaps using a little judgment and common sense instead of these one-size-fits-all “solutions”.
              A little brain power instead of blindly following dictats from On High.

              Last month, the South Dakota Supreme Court upheld the verdict, while admitting it made little sense.

              Really? Isn’t a judge’s job to judge?
              I thought there was a system of checks and balances, and it was the job of the judicial branch to speak up when it makes “little sense”.

              Fucking idiots.

              1. But but if someone made a decision and used their judgement rather than mindlessly following some stupid rule, they might be responsible for something. And we can’t have that.

              2. But but if someone made a decision and used their judgement rather than mindlessly following some stupid rule, they might be responsible for something. And we can’t have that.

            2. I think there is a logical and systematic way to determine who is very likely a threat. Pedophiles who go so far as to be caught molesting a child have a very high recidivism rate. Even those who have received medical or surgical remedy still report a struggle not to act out because the impulse to do so is as much mental as it is physical. Therefore, any sexual predator who has indeed taken the step of physically acting out against a child has an extremely high probability of doing so again unless prevented.

              My SO disagrees with high penalties, though, as he believes that higher penalties increase the chances that a molester will kidnap and kill to avoid being caught rather than just molest and release. Personally, I believe in the one-bullet remedy.

              1. Actually, they have an extremely low recidivism rate – but go ahead and repeat the myths. Perhaps it will allow you to work out some of your anger.

              2. You do realize there is a difference between a pedophile and a child rapist right?

                Pedophilia merely means the sexual attraction.

                There are many pedophiles who do not wish to actually have sex with children, but do feel the desire to do so, even if they resist you still would classify them the same it seems.

                The funny thing is, when I was 5 or 6 years old a 15 year old girl “molested” me, and I liked it!

                Had I been raped in the ass by some man who wouldn’t take “no” for an answer. I’m sure I would feel differently, but not all pedophiles are the same and not all would even want to really have sex with children if only because of the societal consequences (excluding any legal).

                I think really the church has over time brainwashed people into believing sex is bad and sex is icky and any sexual contact with anyone under 18 must be somehow DAMAGING to them, which just isn’t true…

                Of course it can be, even if only because there are people like you in society who are fucking retarded. (99.999% unfortunately)

                1. So, you are now just a pedophile, not a child rapist?

                  Good for you!

                  But I still think violating an five year old is a bad thing. Had you not liked your debauching would you have been able to stop it? Children are meant to find sexuality, not have it forced on them. Is it Reasonable to steal from a child?

                  I think kidnapping and violating and murdering a five year old is worse. It happened in my community last year. The family of the victim imarginally knew who the sick puppet was, so it could make one side or the other of the know/don’t know argument.

                  More importantly, a child has a right to their childhood, and though it may be hard to conceive of in our new, Reasonable state, that does not include sexual activity beyond that which normally occurs in their development, and NO FUCKING ADULTS!

                  The law has come to lack common sense, but still it is worth it to try and fix the registry to remove the naughty and keep the lice. While it would be better to tie a millstone around their neck and toss them in the sea, at least we should allow the unReasonable keep track of these human fleas, given their unenlightened desire to make sure their kids are not molested by strangers as well as family members.

                  1. The BIG problem with that issue is that most child molestations and rape occur in the home by family members or friends of the family, just how does that justify keeping track of 800,000 strangers prevent that? I was a victim of my own father for years and many of my friends were also victims of their own family members. Thousands of children continue to be molested in their own homes on a daily basis and NOTHING is done to help them. Something is SO WRONG with this picture. Stranger Danger is one of the biggest myths in the U.S. today.

            3. The Bureau of Pre-Crime does!

  11. Speaking of sex. Hey maybe this NASCAR thing isn’t so bad after all.

    http://www.autoblog.com/2011/0…..r-w-video/

    1. She’ll do just fine. Being capable of doing cool stuff tips a hot chick over the edge into perfection, doesn’t it?

      1. Oh yes. It is like the cute little blond G4 girl that was at the machine gun convention. She was plenty hot on her own. Show her out blasting away with the machine gun and she goes beyond hot.

        1. My wife actually thinks I watch Attack of the Show because I think it is interesting. Well it kinda is. But it’s more about Candace Bailey, and before her Olivia Munn.
          Yum!

  12. SoCA Mom. Get it? SoCA Mom…Soccer Mom.

    Well played, whoever the troll was. Very well played.

  13. “After all, most convicted sex offenders do not go on to be arrested for new sex offenses.”

    I thought the whole rationale behind sex registries was that sex offenders were subhuman deviate monsters who cannot control their urges and inevitably repeat their crimes 100+% of the time. Seriously, that was the argument behind Megan’s Law in the first place.

    If that is not the case, why are sex offenders any different from other criminals. Why do we not have a violence registry for those who commit assault. A money registry for those who commit fraud? A shoplifter registry so supermarkets can be warned about shoplifters in the neighborhood?

    1. Give it time.

    2. A few states have had the brilliant idea of registries for methamphetamine offenders (though I don’t think it ever went anywhere). Which is very handy if you are looking to cook up a batch of meth and want to talk to an expert about it.

      1. Oh, it went somewhere all right. Check again.

        I happen to know a dude in Kansas (no, it’s not me, really! LOL) who did about 3.5 years hard time for unlawful possession of pseudo. On release, he was required to register every 4 months as a (whatever level it is) offender.

        Long story short, he got “evicted” from a house he was renting from a friend, when the friend got the chance to sell. This happened right around the time he was due for registration. Since he didn’t have a new address yet, he put his last known address down on the form.

        Sheriff’s office found out, he was put on the County’s “most-wanted” list, and now the DA is trying to nail him for failing to register. Possible penalty, 55 months. Longer than he spent for the original offense.

        His lawyer is working on a defense theory based on constitutional grounds.

        AFAIK, every state has some form of this, although penalties vary wildly.

    3. But sex is different, and in spite of the studies that have shown many forms of sexual abuse to be much less harmful than most other crimes, we just feel that it’s terribly, horrifically worse.

      The low recidivism rate is just proof that sex offenders are going to do it again, because they take so much care not to be caught and to leave no evidence behind.

  14. Dude. I’m can’t remember my hotmail password that contains my ex-gf nude pics from when she was 17. I wanna delte but i cant. Am I going to go 2 jail 4 life???!?!

    1. Probably, but the real crime here is your homicidal treatment of sentence structure, punctuation and spelling.

      1. Yes!

        Put him on the punctuation registry!

      2. Cowgirl, that wasn’t murder; it was syntax GENOCIDE!

      3. to atomic cowgirl
        you have a real gift made me smile 🙂

  15. What it comes down to is that you are dealing with people who are afraid of sex and the human body.

  16. I thought the trend now was to get rid of parole and have the court issue a fixed sentence which the guy has to serve out – whether it’s burglary, rape, etc. Have I missed something?

  17. “That doesn’t mean you and I are crazy to prefer knowing about the pedophile next door. But it suggests the information offers no actual benefit.”

    Are you kidding me? While it might not prevent a legitimate offender (forget the teen stuff — while a real flaw, it’s a strawman when talking about the actual bad guys) from reoffending, it sure as heck reduces the chance they will offend against a member of my family. I know where they are, and I’ve lawfully and firmly made it clear as to the outcome in any situation that could compromise any of those near to me.

  18. Articles like this cause almost terminal harm to the libertarian movement.

    Yes, people who shouldn’t be on the sex offender registry are on the registry. Justice is imperfect and needs correction at times.

    This ignores the fact that 90+ percent of the people on the list are guilty as hell and will offend again. Draconian laws are in place, because a flawed legal system doesn’t allow us to simply execute the real offenders and be done with it.

    If libertarianism is to ever go mainstream you will need a better strategic communications campaign than this. Otherwise it is very easy to paint everyone here as a bunch of kooks.

    1. Tom, you have some misinformation that I feel you would want corrected in the pursuit of truth. “Guilty as hell,” first of all, does not allow for the falsely convicted, and that is a real issue. Complainants lie, children are manipulated by vindictive spouses, juries convict on the word of a child alone, and the innocent are terrified into taking pleas. As for the guilty–the question is, guilty of what? Most are not child molesters. The Economist found “at least five states require registration for people who visit prostitutes, 29 require it for consensual sex between young teenagers and 32 require it for indecent exposure. Some prosecutors are prosecuting teenagers for the ‘distributing child pornography’ called ‘sexting’ via their cell phones.”
      I won’t even bother to address the recidivism you claim; anyone who can read knows how untrue that is. If you have a reputable study showing anywhere near 90%, bring it.

  19. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08…..1&emc=eta1

    HERE’S WHO IS MOSTLY ON THE REGISTRY.
    If someone is 19& has a girlfriend 15 or 16 and it’s consensual -If someone reports it (usually malicious), if someone gets drunk and urinates in a public place, if someone sees a teenage prostitute (Even if she lied about her age), if someone streaks or moons someone, they could be on the registry. Oh, and the “child” porn…almost all of it is teens… Is there NO difference in your mind between a 10 yr. old and a 15 or 16 yr. old posing nude or doing something sexual one the net ??? I’m NOT SAYING THIS IS GOOD, BY THE WAY. But there is a big difference. Dangerousness to a pre-pubescent child is the issue.
    No wonder they couldn’t find Garrido….so many on the registry that did not belong, that bloated it. These laws are so unjust, so extreme. But the self-righteous, hateful, off with their …..fanatics want to bring back Salem. I hope more rational minded people will prevail. The registry may serve to unduly frighten many parents, may titillate those who use it for amusement but make no mistake, it is ruining people’s lives who do not deserve it. Right now there are so many non dangerous people are on there. Some have been murdered or else killed themselves. I guess the fanatics are happy about that. ” If you care, go to:
    http://ilvoices.com/media/2394…..ffe415.pdf

  20. HERE’S WHO IS MOSTLY ON THE REGISTRY.
    If someone is 19& has a girlfriend 15 or 16 and it’s consensual -If someone reports it (usually malicious), if someone gets drunk and urinates in a public place, if someone sees a teenage prostitute (Even if she lied about her age), if someone streaks or moons someone, they could be on the registry. Oh, and the “child” porn…almost all of it is teens… Is there NO difference in your mind between a 10 yr. old and a 15 or 16 yr. old posing nude or doing something sexual one the net ??? I’m NOT SAYING THIS IS GOOD, BY THE WAY. But there is a big difference. Dangerousness to a pre-pubescent child is the issue.
    No wonder they couldn’t find Garrido….so many on the registry that did not belong, that bloated it. These laws are so unjust, so extreme. But the self-righteous, hateful, off with their …..fanatics want to bring back Salem. I hope more rational minded people will prevail. The registry may serve to unduly frighten many parents, may titillate those who use it for amusement but make no mistake, it is ruining people’s lives who do not deserve it. Right now there are so many non dangerous people are on there. Some have been murdered or else killed themselves. I guess the fanatics are happy about that. ” If you care, go to:
    http://ilvoices.com/media/2394…..ffe415.pdf
    http://www.reformsexoffenderlaws.org/

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