Are We Making Any Progress on Police Brutality?

Plus: The editors consider the ongoing debt ceiling drama and answer a listener question about ending the war on drugs.

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Are We Making Any Progress on Police Brutality?

In this week's The Reason Roundtable, editors Peter Suderman, Katherine Mangu-Ward, Nick Gillespie, and special guest Eric Boehm delve into policing and violence in the wake of the video release showing Memphis police killing Tyre Nichols.

0:30: Tyre Nichols killed by Memphis police

23:37: The ongoing debt limit drama

36:31: Weekly Listener Question

44:55: Sending tanks to Ukraine

49:25: This week's cultural recommendations

Mentioned in this podcast:

"The Most Popular Police Reforms Can't Stop the Next Tyre Nichols From Being Killed. Here's What Might." by Elizabeth Nolan Brown

"New Video Shows Memphis Police Fatally Beating, Tasing, Pepper-Spraying Tyre Nichols," by Christian Britschgi

"Is a War on Policing Increasing Crime? Q&A With Rafael Mangual," by Nick Gillespie

Mapping Police Violence, by Samuel Sinyangwe

"If Republicans Want To Cut Spending, They Should Start With the Pentagon," by Eric Boehm

"Social Security Is on the Brink of Collapse. The GOP Won't Touch It." by Veronique de Rugy

"Generational Warfare," by Nick Gillespie and Veronique de Rugy

"The Failure To Enact Marijuana Banking and Crack Sentencing Reforms Is a Window on Congressional Dysfunction," by Jacob Sullum

"Should America Keep Funding Ukraine? Live With Emma Ashford, Nick Gillespie, and Zach Weissmueller," by Zach Weissmueller and Nick Gillespie

"What We Owe the Future Is Liberalism," by Ronald Bailey

Send your questions to [e-mail]. Be sure to include your social media handle and the correct pronunciation of your name.

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Audio production by Ian Keyser

Assistant production by Hunt Beaty

Music: "Angeline," by The Brothers Steve

What are we consuming this week?

Eric Boehm

• Learning to be Happy by Kayleigh Goldsworthy

Nick Gillespie

• War By Other Means: The Pacifists of the Greatest Generation Who Revolutionized Resistance, by Daniel Akst

Katherine Mangu-Ward

• What We Owe the Future, by William MacAskill

Peter Suderman

• The Last of Us, Episode 3

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[Elmer Fudd the CHUD]

Lots of progress. Like re electing the same dumbasses who are overseeing the cops and making the same shit policies that created the situation.

Good job democrats!

[mad.casual]

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[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

answer a listener question about ending the war on drugs.

Hey man, like when are we gonna like.. end the drug war man... we're throwing people in jail for stuff they put into their own bodies, man. It's crazy!

[TrickyVic (old school)]

Hey, in NYC we are moving away from busting people who sell weed illegally to busting people who sell weed illegally.

https://nypost.com/2022/12/15/eric-adams-vows-crackdown-on-illegal-nyc-weed-shops/

[Roberta]

The way they laid it out, I thought Sheriff was one of the brands.

[Its_Not_Inevitable]

"“Unlicensed cannabis stores are threatening a budding economic opportunity for our city,” Adams said."

Selling weed IS the economic opportunity. The licensing and policing thereof is what threatens it.

[JesseAz]

Mike only has so much free time in the day.

[Chumby]

^ This

[Mother's Lament]

Yeah, they've got to be his. They always read like his Twitter.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

We tore all those statues down for nothing?

[mad.casual]

You say “*We* tore all those statues down” one more time and I swear to God I’m going to fucking secede!

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Silence is violence

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

The solution to all of America's social problems:

Legalize weed.
Ban Chokeholds.
Upzone neighborhoods.

*checks how things are going*

Legalize upzoned chokeholds? I got nothing, throw me a bone here, people.

[SRG]

FFS, your argument boils down to "as we can't fix everything, we shouldn't fix anything"

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

No, my argument is that we don't seem to be fixing anything that the solutions claimed would fix.

[Mother's Lament]

That's not what he said at all. You couldn't argue against what he actually said, so you reworded it and argued against that.
Pretty pathetic.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

But kind of hot. Like a couple of crazy chicks I used to... um, "date".

[DesigNate]

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[Mother's Lament]

What? No abortion or foodtrucks?

Did they touch on any of the new Twitterfiles revelations, like how a Left-wing think tank run by ex-FBI and CIA agents is responsible for thousands of fake Russia stories?

That's probably still too "Local Story" right now and we'll have to wait another three years for the Reasonistas to tell us it's real.

[mad.casual]

*checks how things are going*

[sees Shackford, Sullum, Root, Brown, Binion, Boehm, among others kicking the everloving shit out of some poor parent for being concerned about the sexualization of their own children in “their” public school]

[Mother's Lament]

The real question is are they copying Salon, or is Salon copying them, or are they all being emailed the same talking points?

Salon pulled a Reason the other day and claimed not teaching from pornographic gender-queer materials or stocking them in the library in public schools, constitutes "Book Banning".

Salon Comes Out in Defense of Groomers, Because of Course They Do

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[Quicktown Brix]

“The solution to all of America’s social problems

Legalize weed.
Ban Chokeholds.
Upzone neighborhoods.”

You have so much to choose from to criticize lefty positions, but you focus on these legitimate libertarian issues?

Whether these fix all social problems or none what business does the government have stopping people from using cannabis, choking arrestees or dictating how people use their property?

[Chumby]

To be brutally honest…

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

John Campbell FTW. Man, he says so much by saying so little.

[rev-arthur-l-kuckland]

Well if you look at the data police killings of unarmed people was declining for 4 decades, you know until blm became a thing, then it was on a rise

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

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[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Taibbi on how the media relied on Hamilton68 uncritically:

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[Hank Ferrous]

Can we expect the same coverage when there is a tragic killing of a different ethnicity by government agents, or will reasonmag always be following the rest of the media? Black folks getting killed is horrific, but there are plenty of police abuses to go around, and I don't see 4, 6, 8 articles in a week about those.

[Flaco]

Damn, they do talk about racism and white supremacy a lot, especially considering this case involved no white people.

[Liberty Lover]

Haven’t you got the message yet?
EVERYTHING BAD is white people’s fault. Especially white males. Even more older white males. Even more white males that lean conservative.
All minorities are innocent of everything too. The only reason they commit crimes, are violent, use illegal drugs or can’t get along in civil society is because of past white peoples actions. All white people HAVE TO PAY for their previous generations sins.
Not only that, but white people are irredeemable to the end of times, and must be held down or eliminated. Then will their be a peaceful paradise on Earth where all are equal!
– Woke Liberal Bible 2023

[Edith Stein's Brother]

IF you don't respond as you should the first time, you increase the chances of brutality the next time. This is Biden's fault.
What did Lincoln say in the Lyceum address:

While, on the other hand, good men, men who love tranquility, who desire to abide by the laws, and enjoy their benefits, who would gladly spill their blood in the defense of their country; seeing their property destroyed; their families insulted, and their lives endangered; their persons injured; and seeing nothing in prospect that forebodes a change for the better; become tired of, and disgusted with, a Government that offers them no protection; and are not much averse to a change in which they imagine they have nothing to lose. Thus, then, by the operation of this mobocractic spirit, which all must admit, is now abroad in the land, the strongest bulwark of any Government, and particularly of those constituted like ours, may effectually be broken down and destroyed--I mean the attachment of the People.

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