Biden's Preemptive Pardons Undermine Official Accountability and the Rule of Law
His last-minute acts of clemency invite Trump and future presidents to shield their underlings from the consequences of committing crimes in office.

Last month, Joe Biden issued a broad pardon for his son Hunter that not only spared him sentencing on gun and tax charges but also barred his prosecution for any federal crimes he might have committed from January 1, 2014, through December 1, 2024. On his way out the door today, Biden granted similarly sweeping pardons to Gen. Mark Milley, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; Anthony Fauci, former director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases; and all nine members of the House select committee that investigated the January 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol, plus the committee's staff and Capitol Police officers who testified before it. He also issued preemptive pardons for five of his relatives: three siblings, a brother-in-law, and a sister-in-law.
According to Biden, all of these pardons are aimed at preventing President Donald Trump, who took his second oath of office today in the same building that his supporters invaded and vandalized four years ago, from retaliating against his political enemies by launching frivolous criminal investigations. But in seeking to stop Trump from abusing presidential powers, Biden stretched the limits of those powers and set a dangerous precedent that undermines the rule of law and the accountability of federal officials.
Under Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution, the president has plenary power to "grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment." In the 1866 case Ex parte Garland, the Supreme Court held that "the power thus conferred is unlimited, with the exception stated." That power, the Court said, "extends to every offence known to the law" and "may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken or during their pendency or after conviction and judgment." Although pardons typically are granted after convictions, in other words, presidents may issue them in cases where no charges have yet been filed, provided the underlying conduct predates the pardon.
The closest historical precedent for Biden's preemptive acts of clemency is the pardon that President Gerald Ford granted to his predecessor, Richard Nixon, a month after taking office. That pardon applied to "all offenses against the United States" that Nixon "has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969, through August 9, 1974." But there are several notable differences between that act of clemency and the pardons for Milley et al.
Nixon resigned to avoid an impeachment that seemed inevitable in the wake of the Watergate scandal. The articles of impeachment that the House Judiciary Committee approved on July 27, 1974, charged Nixon with a litany of offenses, many of which would amount to federal crimes.
The first article alleged that Nixon had violated his oath of office and his presidential responsibilities by engaging in "a course of conduct or plan designed to delay, impede, and obstruct the investigation" of the Watergate burglary. It listed nine examples of such conduct, including "false or misleading statements" to investigators, "withholding relevant and material evidence," encouraging witnesses to make false statements, paying witnesses for their silence, leaking confidential information to people who were under investigation, and offering lenient treatment to defendants "in return for their silence or false testimony." The second article of impeachment charged Nixon with abusing his powers in various other ways, such as deploying the IRS, the FBI, the CIA, and the Secret Service against political opponents.
Ford's pardon acknowledged that Nixon, "as a result of certain acts or omissions occurring before his resignation," had "become liable to possible indictment and trial for offenses against the United States." Ford worried that "the tranquility to which this nation has been restored by the events of recent weeks could be irreparably lost by the prospects of bringing to trial a former President of the United States." Nixon's prosecution, Ford said, would "cause prolonged and divisive debate over the propriety of exposing to further punishment and degradation a man who has already paid the unprecedented penalty of relinquishing the highest elective office of the United States."
Ford, in other words, conceded that Nixon might be successfully prosecuted for various federal crimes. But because that process would incite bitter discord and disturb the "tranquility" that followed Nixon's resignation, Ford thought, it was best to stop it before it started.
In the case of Milley, Fauci, and the January 6 committee members, by contrast, Biden cautioned that "the issuance of these pardons should not be mistaken as an acknowledgment that any individual engaged in any wrongdoing, nor should acceptance be misconstrued as an admission of guilt for any offense." To the contrary, he said, the pardons were necessary because the recipients "have been subjected to ongoing threats and intimidation for faithfully discharging their duties." Milley, Fauci, and the committee members "have served our nation with honor and distinction," Biden declared, "and do not deserve to be the targets of unjustified and politically motivated prosecutions."
Biden offered a similar explanation for pardoning his relatives. "My family has been subjected to unrelenting attacks and threats, motivated solely by a desire to hurt me — the worst kind of partisan politics," he said. "Unfortunately, I have no reason to believe these attacks will end."
Even if such attacks are ultimately unsuccessful, Biden noted, the process itself exacts a price. "I believe in the rule of law, and I am optimistic that the strength of our legal institutions will ultimately prevail over politics," he said. "But these are exceptional circumstances, and I cannot in good conscience do nothing. Baseless and politically motivated investigations wreak havoc on the lives, safety, and financial security of targeted individuals and their families. Even when individuals have done nothing wrong—and in fact have done the right thing—and will ultimately be exonerated, the mere fact of being investigated or prosecuted can irreparably damage reputations and finances."
Notwithstanding those caveats, Trump and his supporters are bound to portray these pardons as admissions of guilt. And even Americans who are not Trump fans are apt to wonder why someone who had done nothing wrong would accept a presidential pardon. "I am guilty of nothing besides bringing the truth to the American people and, in the process, embarrassing Donald Trump," former Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R–Ill.), who served on the January 6 committee, said on CNN a couple of weeks ago. But he noted that "as soon as you take a pardon, it looks like you are guilty of something,"
Sarah Isgur, an attorney who served as a Justice Department spokeswoman during Trump's first term, recognizes that reality. Isgur is one of 60 former executive branch officials who appear on the list of enemies that Kash Patel, Trump's pick to run the FBI, included in his 2023 book Government Gangsters, which alleges a "deep state" conspiracy against Trump that Patel equates with a conspiracy to subvert democracy and the Constitution. Although "I'm on Mr. Patel's list," Isgur wrote in a New York Times essay last month, "I don't want a pardon. I can't speak for anyone else on the list, but I would hope that none of them would want a pardon, either."
Isgur explained why: "If we broke the law, we should be charged and convicted. If we didn't break the law, we should be willing to show that we trust the fairness of the justice system that so many of us have defended. And we shouldn't give permission to future presidents to pardon political allies who may commit real crimes on their behalf."
Milley, a vocal Trump critic who has described his former boss as "fascist to the core," seems to fall into the category of potential targets who "didn't break the law." Trump has said that Milley deserves to be executed for calling his Chinese counterpart in 2020 and 2021 to assure him that rumors of an impending U.S. attack were baseless. "This is an act so egregious that, in times gone by, the punishment would have been DEATH!" Trump wrote on Truth Social in September 2023.
Trump's threats against the members of the January 6 committee likewise seem legally groundless. Trump has argued that former Rep. Liz Cheney (R–Wyo.) and every other member of the committee are guilty of "treason," which is punishable by death or by a prison sentence of at least five years. A person commits that crime when he "ow[es] allegiance to the United States" and "levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere." Even less risible charges would seem to be precluded by the Constitution, which says members of Congress "shall not be questioned in any other place" for "any speech or debate in either house."
Fauci's case is a closer call. Trump allies such as Elon Musk and Sen. Ted Cruz (R–Texas) have argued that Fauci should be prosecuted for lying to Congress about U.S. funding for gain-of-function research on viruses in China.
Fauci "flat-out lied to Congress when he said that, no, the federal government had not funded gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute for Virology," Cruz said during a December 2022 interview on Fox News. Although the National Institutes of Health later "made clear that was a lie," Cruz complained, Attorney General Merrick Garland "won't prosecute him." In a July 2021 letter to Garland, Sen. Rand Paul (R–Ky.) suggested that Fauci had violated 18 USC 1001, which applies to someone who makes "any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation" regarding "any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch." That is a felony punishable by up to five years in prison.
Thanks to Biden's pardon, we will never know if prosecutors could have proven that case beyond a reasonable doubt. Likewise for additional charges that Hunter Biden might have faced in connection with his income taxes or allegations of foreign lobbying. Nor will Trump's vague charges of corruption against "the entire Biden crime family" ever be tested by investigators, prosecutors, judges, or jurors.
If you are confident that there is nothing to any of these claims, you may think that is just as well. But as Isgur notes, the pardon power that Biden has deployed in an unprecedented way could easily become a shield for a president's political allies, including government officials, who "commit real crimes." That prospect should trouble anyone who worries that Trump or any future president might copy Nixon's example by enlisting his underlings to break the law in service of his policy, political, or personal agenda.
"I don't want to see each president hereafter on their way out the door giving a broad category of pardons to members of their administration," Rep. Adam Schiff (D–Calif.), a member of the January 6 committee, said on CNN this month. It is not hard to see why: If presidents get in the habit of preemptively pardoning their underlings, impeachment (resulting in removal and possibly also disqualification from future government service) will be the only real remedy for federal officials who commit crimes, and that option is available only when their abuses come to light soon enough to complete that process. Coupled with the Supreme Court's broad understanding of presidential immunity from criminal prosecution for "official acts," this is a recipe for impunity that belies Biden's avowed commitment to the rule of law.
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On the other hand, Biden is on the record as feeling that federal crimes were committed. No need for a pardon in any other circumstance.
He promised us in 2020 he wouldn't issue preemptive pardons. Then again he is probably the only one who lies more than jeffsarc.
Nobody lies more than Lying Jeffy. Nobody.
I don't know. Sullum is definitely reaching Lying Jeffy levels here.
For example, he claims Milley didn't do anything wrong.
I think Sullum's real problem is that with these pardons Joe has proven that everything Sullum wrote was dangerously wrong, and (if we are being charitable) he was strung along by a gang of fascist criminals.
Sullum really, really, really doesn't want to acknowledge that. I mean he wrote at least 130 articles about J6, FFS.
turd would like a word with you.
Wait, Jeffery is Biden? It all makes sense!
Biden has now set the standard, as POTUS Trump noted yesterday.
Future POTUS' will live down to it.
Pardons do not in any way imply that a crime was committed. A major reasons for granting pardons is to protect innocent people from unjust prosecution.
A major reasons for granting pardons is to protect innocent people from unjust prosecution.
Yes, but in the past that was done for more than just family members and political cronies.
Pardons are given to people already prosecuted, so your talking point will only work on the retards of lefty sites, not here, paid troll.
Yes, I agree that Presidents can pardon innocent people, even pre-emptively. I'm not going to hate so much on Biden as to denigrate the pardon power.
But I'm not going to assume that the people Biden pardoned were *all* innocent. Some could be. Some might not be.
In any case, given what Biden now acknowledges about the unacceptable dangers the federal government poses to the innocent, one wonders why he didn't do something during his decades-long political career to protect non-cronies and non-relatives from such abuses.
Maybe "cronies" isn't the right term for some of the people Biden pardoned, I'll just say allies (at least de facto allies).
"Pardons do not in any way imply that a crime was committed. A major reasons for granting pardons is to protect innocent people from unjust prosecution."
Chuckle. Those "innocent people" are some of the most dangerous coup plotters and insurrectionists to plague America since the civil war.
And yet how many pre-emptive pardons are there in American history?
Let's see - Whiskey Rebellion, Civil War, Vietnam draft dodgers, and Nixon.
Lots of pardons for insurrection, not a lot of pardons for run of the mill criminality.
And every one you listed was for known, not unknown, crimes.
Nixon's pardon was open ended and did not specify a crime.
Yet it was in response to many accused crimes.
In all those, those people had known crimes they were facing prosecution for.
There was also never a legal challenge to it.
This has been addressed multiple times already. The Supreme Court (and pretty much everyone else) disagrees with you. The granting of a pardon definitely says that something bad was done. Likewise, your acceptance of a pardon is your admission that you did something wrong.
Burdick v. United States, 236 U.S. 79, 94 (1915) and cited as valid precedent in multiple cases since.
I can walk and chew gum at the same time, sometimes. I oppose what Biden did, but I don't support limiting the pardon power just because Biden badly abused it. The pardon power remains a tool for good as well as for evil, even if you're innocent.
The Supreme Court, I think, has faced different ways on the question of whether a Pres can force pardons on people and make them confess guilt to benefit from a pardon.
But in any case, if the Supreme Court said pardons were for guilty people only, the Supreme Court was wrong.
What kind of Constitution would we have if it only allowed the President to pardon the guilty (or people falsely admitting guilt) while depriving him of power to save the innocent victims of injustice?
The pardon power should be held *until they're actually victims of injustice* rather than assuming - with no evidence - that they will, at some indefinite time in the future, be.
I'm addition, we're talking about super broad pardons - of these people actually committed real crimes they're going to get off.
I'm challenging the idea that only guilty people (or innocent people who falsely admit guilt) can be pardoned.
Pardons on the ground of innocence are perfectly awesome and constitutional. Disliking Biden and his pardons won't make me give up on that principle.
If you're innocent and you can prove it then reject the pardon just like you'd reject a plea deal requiring an admission of guilt for time served. Sometimes the stigma might be the price worth paying.
"The granting of a pardon definitely says that something bad was done. Likewise, your acceptance of a pardon is your admission that you did something wrong."
That is not the holding of Burdick, and it is not even an accurate summation of its dicta. You are a liar.
https://reason.com/volokh/2025/01/20/monday-open-thread-89/?comments=true#comment-10877088
Perhaps we are all confused when the case, Burdick vs United States, says the following:
"This brings us to the differences between legislative
immunity and a pardon. They are substantial. The
latter carries an imputation of guilt; acceptance a con-
fession of it."
Maybe you can enlighten us? Or let me guess; this is one of those many cases where plain language reading is incorrect, and one needs the magic lawyer decoder ring to tell us, the unwashed masses, what plain language actually means?
SCOTUS disagrees with you, Molly. See: Burdick v. United States for more.
Its funny though - the Democrats certainly think it implies criminality.
https://x.com/AGHamilton29/status/1881451842443616353?mx=2
Its amazing how many positions you hold based on who we're talking about.
Pardons for LITERALLY everything are a sign of guilt, yes.
And, as has been said, it is quite funny seeing you bemoan unfair prosecution.
Pardons do not guarantee a crime was committed, but if you are dumb enough to believe that Biden and his family didn't commit any crimes you have an unhealthy fetish for being lied to.
Acquaint yourself with Burdick, nitwit.
Nope. The ruling is clear. It is only for offenses committed, whether or not charged. By definition, the clear meaning of pardon is to excuse someone for punishment for an action that they DID.
You're an idiot. Go do some research. Pardon's aren't given unless a prosecution is occurring .
What are they being pardon from? Theoretical attacks?
Which sock puppet are you? No a bright one. Shrike?
"Pardons do not in any way imply that a crime was committed." Then Rep., now Sen. Adan Schiff disagrees. Near the end of Trump's first term of office, the possibility of blanket pardons for Trump's family members was under discussion. Sen. Schiff opined at that time that pardoning someone for any putative, uncharged crime serves as evidence of guilt. Unless he has double (or more) standards, he must conclude the same thing about Biden's pardons.
Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. enshrines The Biden Crime Family into history as The Biden Crime Family, forever and ever.
Good job Joe.
And good riddance.
No surprise that maybe Reason's most pathetic shitweasel, Jacob Sullum, manages to make Biden and his sleazy family's career of corruption and criminality more about Trump than it is about the Bidens.
Of course he did, because the fucking loser just can't help himself
Trick is to js;dr
Yeah I JS;DR this but I figured from the headline that Trump is the real danger here.
Biden crime family? Dude you ain't seen nothing yet. We have a president with immunity who has already demonstrated no regard for the law.
Which is why both Obama and Biden lost more cases at the USSC than Trump. Lol.
Which doesn't say much about SCROTUS
Obama still has the record for most losses at the SCOTUS by UNANIMOUS decision. This, notwithstanding that the Court during his terms of office included several political liberals.
What laws has he disregarded?
The law against mean tweets. Well, there outta be a law!
Are you totally retarded or something, Molly?
Do you really need to ask of that TDS-addled steaming pile of lefty shit?
I have observed her posts for years.
No, Biden has been relieved - Trump is in office now.
More bullshit claims from you.
Please enlighten us to which laws?
Biden is the one for example ignored the Supreme court on student loans. Biden is the one that ignored the law enforcing the border.
Since legal scholars can't even make sense of the court case Trump was tried for, you can provide us the help right?
blast from the past
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/08/02/joe-biden-investigation-hunter-brother-hedge-fund-money-2020-campaign-227407/
"I believe in the rule of law...and for a few more minutes I am THE LAW."
RoboJoe, although his machinery seems to be falling apart. Perhaps too much sand in the gears from too many beach days.
"But these are exceptional circumstances, and I cannot in good conscience do nothing. Baseless and politically motivated investigations wreak havoc on the lives, safety, and financial security of targeted individuals and their families. Even when individuals have done nothing wrong—and in fact have done the right thing—and will ultimately be exonerated, the mere fact of being investigated or prosecuted can irreparably damage reputations and finances."
project much?
100% of the time, when Democrats accuse Republicans of something, they are doing it themselves. They get away with it because most of the media carries their water.
"The [President] shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."
----Article II, Section 2, Clause 1
Doesn't that say there needs to be an offense in order for the President to grant a pardon? This should preclude any pardons except for those in which someone has been found guilty or has pled guilty.
No. It does not. Pardoning innocent people to prevent unjust prosecution is valid.
Am I supposed to believe that just because you say so?
If no one has committed an offense--using the language in the Constitution--how can you justify a pardon?
It would be weird if people who have committed a crime can be pardoned, but those who did not must be subjected to prosecution.
Those who are innocent almost never get prosecuted, and the few that do are found innocent in court. A pardon is not needed for them.
They don't need to be prosecuted - but they have always had an *known* underlying crime, at a minimum.
Yet that is exactly what your kind have done to Trump. You failed, and now must be punished for what you have done.
Your interpretation seems obviously correct to me but I don't believe it's ever been tested in a federal court. I'm not sure who would have standing to challenge but assuming the Supreme Court took it up I imagine the arguments would be about the intent of the founders, Federalist Papers etc. Hard to believe they intended to allow a president who sold influence to immunize his crime family who laundered the proceeds. But we may never know.
As previously discussed, Molly is wrong. SCOTUS has considered this question at least twice (in Burdick v US and Wilson v US). A pardon can be refused and accepting the pardon is legally treated as an admission of wrongdoing. There's no way those can be true without the pardon itself being a clear implication of wrongdoing.
SCOTUS was wrong in those cases, which is nothing new for them. It is absurd to hold that getting a pardon implies wrongdoing, and even nuttier to have it mean you were guilty.
As a legal matter, SCOTUS is never wrong until it says it was wrong before. They get to say what the law *is*. (Marbury v. Madison)
"for Offences"
States clearly that a crime has been committed.
No other President has, to my knowledge, pardoned anyone 'pre-emptively'.
And the plain language of the statute doesn't seem to allow it.
There hasn't been an unjust prosecution though.
At the minimum an offense or the actions that could have caused the injury/crime must be specified. This idea that you can pardon someone for anything and everything for large blocks of their lifetime is absurd.
+1
Yes. The charges against Nixon were in the public record. This is uncharted territory.
Trump already used the pardon power to shield his political and personal allies from accountability, as have many other presidents. This is normal. But there is no worse subversion of "rule of law" than making the president immune to criminal law.
Which is why so many of his allies were dragged before Congress and convicted by the DoJ. Lol.
You leftists get dumber by the day.
Hey sarc, this is someone actually doing your they did it first Schick.
In four years, when Trump does the same thing and His defenders who are outraged at this go on the attack against anyone critical of Him, I'll mockingly say "It's ok because Democrats did it first."
Notice you can't criticize the democrat, so you will wait for 4 years to criticize it lol.
You're not more intelligent than Molly above.
Biden preemptively stopped Trump's vengeful lawfare that you were so looking forward to (which would have been like totally ok and stuff because Democrats did it first). You must be so angry and disappointed. Positively heart broken. If you need some sympathy it's in the dictionary between shit and syphilis.
Haha, the DNC talking point word for word!
He loves listening to Jen Psaki.
Here's the Democrats thoughts on preemptive pardons in 2020.
https://x.com/DGrayTexas45/status/1865962516146237544
Democrats are as hypocritical as you? Wow. Such a surprise. Must be a day that ends in 'y'.
No, Democrats being as hypocritical as you. Probably because you are... wait for it...
A hypocrite?
He should get the tOSU designation in honor of tonight.
The HYPOCRITE.
When you cry "NO YOU!" do you pinch your nose or does the whine come naturally?
Pour Sarc.
Imagine being sarc? A person whose only principle is hating random people people on the internet and opposing what he thinks they think.
We broke him.
He was probably broken to begin with. You just pushed him further down into hell.
You're going to say that regardless drunkass.
No issue with Biden doing it.
Because it's OK if the Democrats do it.
How much did Biden actually do? The vast majority of the charges against Trump were state felonies, not federal.
Funny how Biden is now both a mastermind and a dotard at the same time.
Just like how the left portrayed Bush the Second as a chimp and... no Darth Cheney was the brains. Like Pinky and the Brain. Never mind.
Biden is a simping dipshit who has not had an IQ above room temperature since the 70's.
His people did it.
DoJ sent people to work on the NY case, for example. And they colluded with Fani Willis.
But it is OK because he is a Democrat and you have no standards to hold them to.
Right. Alvin Bragg went from one of the top people at DoJ to taking a job as a rank and file prosecutor in Manhattan. Then coincidentally prosecuted him on phony charges.
Just as the rule of law provides for the punishment of offenses against the United States, so does the rule of law provide for pardons.
It listed nine examples of such conduct, including "false or misleading statements" to investigators, "withholding relevant and material evidence," encouraging witnesses to make false statements, paying witnesses for their silence, leaking confidential information to people who were under investigation, and offering lenient treatment to defendants "in return for their silence or false testimony."
Nixon would have well been within his rights to shut down the investigation, or even pardon the burglars.
But it was clearly illegal to "encouraging witnesses to make false statements" or "paying witnesses for their silence"
In the case of Milley, Fauci, and the January 6 committee members, by contrast, Biden cautioned that "the issuance of these pardons should not be mistaken as an acknowledgment that any individual engaged in any wrongdoing, nor should acceptance be misconstrued as an admission of guilt for any offense."
maybe not the issuance but certainly the timing
I've argued how this is entirely a power of the President elsewhere, and that there's no point in trying to challenge any of these pardons in court. I believe Presidents are fully within their power to issue pardons like this.
But also, they generally shouldn't. Just because the President has the power to do a thing doesn't mean he should. We can still judge them as political actions, and as political actions, this is comical.
The precedent for this type of blanket, unconditional pardon is obviously Richard Nixon. That was a single action in the wake of a controversy, with the goal of helping the country move forward and stop dwelling on the Watergate scandal, now that the President had stepped down. The only other time there was a stew of pardons for uncharged actions was following the Civil War, but the crime in that case was understood-it was treason, and the pardon was issued for much the same reason, to get the country moving forward following the war.
There's never been a case in the history of this country in which so many blanket pardons were issued without any contemplation of the type of crimes. The reasoning behind this is not the same, there's no clear controversy or event that these pardons are attempting to move forward from. This is entirely the creation of a new normal.
Actually, what's even worse is that this is the official RECOGNITION of the new normal. The new normal became official when Democrats in DC and New York initiated lawfare against Trump. At that point a threshold was crossed. They did this once it became clear that Trump was once again a leading candidate to run for the White House. They did this to undermine a political enemy, to weaponize the justice system against a political adversary. And now they've made it necessary to protect themselves against reciprocity because they initiated it.
It's gross. It's disgusting. It's a perversion of the faith the people need to have in the justice system, in the administration of laws, that allow a society to function. Because if the justice system is not delivering justice, or even if it's not perceived to be delivering justice, then private individuals will take justice into their own hands.
P.S. The one thing that has prevented this type of broad, blanket pardoning from happening in the past is the cost in political capital. It harms the credibility of the party affiliated with a President who does this. But at this point, I don't think it costs Democrats anything to do this. That's just a little bit scary.
The precedent for this type of blanket, unconditional pardon is obviously Richard Nixon. That was a single action in the wake of a controversy, with the goal of helping the country move forward and stop dwelling on the Watergate scandal, now that the President had stepped down. The only other time there was a stew of pardons for uncharged actions was following the Civil War, but the crime in that case was understood-it was treason, and the pardon was issued for much the same reason, to get the country moving forward following the war.
Wait one doggone minute! You saying it's ok because Republicans did it first?
He didn’t say it was ok. In fact, he spent three paragraphs explaining why what Biden did was different and the horrible precedent it set.
Jesus Christ.
So someone earlier mentioned the Civil War case regarding preemptive pardons. But in that case it stated "crimes known to law" implying the crimes were at least known, ot ethereal like is happening here.
Ex parte Garland, 71 U.S. (4 Wall.) 333 (1866)
“extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment.”
Not sure how anyone can defend thise political pardons whose execution is to hide both personal and government wrong doing.
In a system of checks and balance, this shows neither.
Well the lawfare against Trump did cost the Democrats some political capital and is at least partially responsible for his election victory. It will be interesting to see if Democrats try to distance themselves from this crap.
Well, that's the question I have here. Is all the political outrage already spent from the prosecutions? Or will Biden's last minute full pardon of basically his whole family, plus Fauci, Milly, and the Jan. 6 Committee spark any kind of feedback? People who vote on the left probably already have such a low opinion of Trump that they feel these were all necessary and justified.
There's a level of hypocrisy here in that Biden has done a lot of what Trump has been accused of doing. But Trump did not issue these types of blanket unconditional pardons at the end of his first term despite a lot of predictions that he might. If Trump does this following his term, it's because Biden will have started making it standard practice. It's going to become a question going forward in presidential debates: "Will you issue a pile of unconditional blanket pardons for your supporters at the end of your term?"
It's crossed a threshold and I don't know if people have quite grasped just how significant that is yet. Certainly the left-leaning commenters here don't recognize how drastically this has abolished the traditional norms, so I wonder if anyone on the political left in the US is seeing it.
The Democrats came up with a phony impeachment. The public responded with a collective shrug. Undeterred they tried it again. Again no shits given. But they were determined that the kangaroo J6 production with Hollywood talent would absolutely bring him down. Again with the exception of assholes like Jacob Sullum nobody was buying it. But surely carefully crafted novel lawfare would finally convince the masses to abandon Trump. Right? Turns out his polling just got better. Last gasp was assassination but they blew that too. These are not smart people. They are idiots like Jacob Sullum. They blunder from one failure to the next and then double down on stupid. Aside from "libertarian" cheerleaders like Jacob Sullum, nobody is buying their bullshit. I think their strategy at this point has to be a false flag event of some kind that they can blame on Trump on the scale of Covid. But they'll probably fuck that up too. Another disappointment for Jacob Sullum.
I agree with EVERYTHING you just said!
Worst. President. Ever.
And you people “reluctantly” voted for him? How very Libertarian, you miserable spoogeholes.
This guy gets it.
Trump promising to criminally prosecute people because they are his political opponents undermines rule of law spectacularly.
Biden's pre-emptive pardons are a natural consequence of Trump's threats.
Trump promising to criminally prosecute people because they are his political opponents undermines rule of law spectacularly.
Hey now. It's ok because Democrats prosecuted him first.
Now you are getting it.
I don’t recall any such promise.
Except as made by Letitia James
Or Biden. Or Fanni. Or jack smith. Or bragg.
All things Jason, and sarc since he posted, defended lol.
And here we have the MSMBC false narrative. Provide the quote. The exact quote.
They’re in deep mourning over at MSNBC today. They were flying the pride flag at half mast.
I'd like to see the quote you're referring to. Unless you pull it out of your ass.
If a rape victim swears with fury that she'll get the criminal who raped her, is she guilty of "prosecuting her enemies"?
Trump's political enemies are, in fact, unethical liars at best, and criminals at worst. If you do wrong against me, then you are my enemy. If I decide to go against such enemies, you don't get to feign outrage of being put on an enemies list.
If a rape victim swears with fury that she'll get the criminal who raped her, is she guilty of "prosecuting her enemies"?
That depends. Is the rapist a Muslim?
What about Biden promising to criminally prosecute people because they are his political opponents? That gets a pass.
You miss all of the political prosecutions of anybody involved with Trump, including his lawyers for providing legal advice, over the last 4 years?
Fuck off.
Troll better next time.
Sad.
So, the problem is Not that Biden was selling influence and funneling the money thru his family’s 20 LLC shell companies, the problem is Trump might pardon people too….
It's Koch/Reason/libertarian logic.
Liz Cheney is a conservative Republican who voted for Trump. General Milley is a lifelong public servant and a crony of nobody. Dr. Fauci is a lifelong public health bureaucrat who served eight presidents. Biden did not pardon political cronies -- you're thinking of Donald Trump.
Trump is the one who set the disastrous precedent -- Bannon, Stone, Flynn, Manafort. ALL LOYAL TRUMP CRONIES who committed actual crimes and were convicted. Unlike the others who simply did their jobs in ways that Trump disliked. Imagine, Milley thinking his loyalty was to his oath and not to Donny Trump personally! Only in the mind of a mob boss is that a crime.
What crime did Flynn commit ? Bannon? Stone? Manafort? I want the relevant details of each crime
Flynn pled guilty to lying to FBI and an additional charge was pending when Trump pardoned him. Bannon was in the dock for fraudulent fundraising to "build Trump's wall" when Trump pardoned him while exiting the WH. Stone and Manafort were convicted and serving time when Trump's pardons interceded. And don't ask me for details that you could easily look up for yourself IF you cared to know.
The 50 cent factory is up and running again.
Liz Cheny did not vote for Trump.
Miley is a General - few of them consider themselves servants of anyone. And he's as crooked as the rest of the Generals, including undermining his civilian leadership.
Fauci lied in order to wrangle power to destroy the country and conspired to silence anyone who questioned him.
"Liz Cheney is a conservative Republican who voted for Trump."
Liz Cheney is a racist, bigoted bitch who only loves bombing and killing dark skinned folks.
"General Milley is a lifelong public servant and a crony of nobody."
Gen. Milley is a less admirable Benedict Arnold. Trump should make a move to get his pension revoked.
"Dr. Fauci is a lifelong public health bureaucrat who served eight presidents."
Sure, he sucked and was inept. And violated laws wholesale. And lied to Congress.
Rand Paul should call him to testify. With no Fifth Amendment issue, he will either have to tell EVERYTHING...or he can be nailed for perjury.
"Milley thinking his loyalty was to his oath and not to Donny Trump personally! Only in the mind of a mob boss is that a crime."
Working with China against Trump is treason. He should be dead, not pardoned.
"...you're thinking of Donald Trump..."
No.
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Fuck off and die, asshole.
If "fuck off and die" is the best you can do in response to statements of demonstrable fact, then you will never be a participant in rational argument.
As for Liz Cheney, I know her faults. I also know her one great virtue, and that one you don't dispute. All you know how to do is change the subject.
It’s all you deserved.
I'm pretty certain these miscreants you list will soon enough be fully exposed for their criminal behavior.
At such time as this all comes to fruition, I propose a huge monument to be erected in DC - in bas-relief of enormous proportions in stone, depicting the crimes of those pardoned by the puppet Joe Biden at the last minutes of his detestable term. The monument would consist of giant slabs - panels - too large to be torn down by mobs of woke useful idiots. Each panel would depict a particular crime. For example:
Panel One, entitled "The Treason" would depict General Mark Milley on the phone with his Chinese counterpart, assuring him of his intention to betray his Commander in Chief.
Panel Two, entitled "The Genocide" would depict Dr. Fauci, evil smirk on his face and syringe in hand.
Panel Three, entitled "The Conniving" would depict the entire J6 committee gathered at a bench conducting their fraudulent activities with gleeful abandon.
Incorporated in each panel would be a lengthy description of their crimes as revealed at the hearings in which they have incriminated themselves in order to avoid a perjury charge. At a future date, when it has been determined that the 2020 election was INDEED stolen, and everything Biden had done for four years as a fraud can be cancelled wholesale, including his pardons, THEN some footnotes can be added to each panel describing the ensuing punishments.
Hey kids! Any ideas?
"Liz Cheney is a conservative Republican who voted for Trump."
" who voted for Trump."
You know, back in my day trolling meant something. You people aren't even trying.
Is this a Shrike sock? It sounds cunty enough to be so.
Do lifelong public servants usually reach out to the military of our only real military competitor and promise that he would give them a heads up if the POTUS was going to do something? Just wondering.
Please Jacob, tell us again why we needed to vote for Biden because Trump would ignore the rule of law and 'norms'.
Please tell us how 'the adults back on charge' didn't do all the stuff you claimed Trump would - but didn't.
Democrats keep pushing the envelope on Peak Hypocrisy.
Proposal for a 28th Amendment:
Section 1. No person, having reached seventy-five years of age, shall be eligible to be elected President of the United States, nor to be elected to Congress as a Representative or Senator. But this shall not disqualify any person eligible for such office when elected from completing his term.
Section 2. No person, having accepted any pardon, or commutation of sentence, from the President of the United States, shall be eligible to hold any office of trust or profit under the United States or any of them; or to be a Senator or Representative in Congress; or to sit in any state legislature. But Congress may remove such disability by passing a resolution, naming one person whose disability under this section shall be removed, by a vote of two-thirds of each House.
or Vice President, or to be appointed to any such office in case of vacancy.
It's time to repeal the pardon power completely. It will take a constitutional amendment, but maybe now both sides can see how the pardon power can be misused to eliminate accountability. In a non-pardon power world, true miscarriages of justice can be addressed by law, with Congress and the President working together, not by the whim of a single individual.
A very simple amendment (as simple as the 21st repealing Prohibition):
"Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 of this Constitution is hereby repealed."
You clearly have not heard of the Innocence Project.
You mean the leftists that routinely lie to the court to put murderers back on the streets?
Biden pardoned the entire J6 staff for all crimes including this bitch.
To give you an idea of the scope of influence of Mary McCord as a key functionary, consider what we can document.
♦ McCord submitted the fraudulent FISA application to spy on Trump campaign.
♦ McCord created the “Logan Act” claim used against Michael Flynn and then went with Sally Yates to confront the White House.
♦ McCord then left the DOJ and went to work for Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler on Impeachment Committee.
♦ McCord organized the CIA rule changes with Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Atkinson.
♦ McCord led and organized the impeachment effort, in the background, using the evidence she helped create.
♦ McCord joined the FISA Court to protect against DOJ IG Michael Horowitz newly gained NSD oversight and FISA review.
♦ McCord joined the J6 Committee helping to create all the lawfare angles they deployed.
♦ McCord then coordinated with DA Fani Willis in Georgia.
♦ McCord was working with Special Counsel Jack Smith to prosecute Trump.
♦ McCord is now coordinating a Lawfare attack process against Donald Trump in term #2
♦ McCord just testified that AG Pam Bondi must recuse herself from investigating McCord.
♦ Joe Biden just pardoned Mary McCord.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/01/20/forget-general-milley-joe-biden-just-pardoned-lawfare-operative-mary-mccord/
Saw that earlier. Thanks for posting it here.
De o rats are all the worst kind of filth. It’s time to cleanse them.
You know, GG, now that McCord has immunity, she can be subpoenaed by Congress and compelled to testify truthfully, under oath. She has no 5A right over immunized crimes. The sky is the limit, here, looking at your bullet points.
If McCord lies, and she will lie, it is perjury and possibly obstruction.
That woman had better get good legal counsel. She has much to
answer fortestify truthfully to.Again, Patel did not have an enemies list. He put names of corrupt actors in an appendix of his book. The words "enemies list" does not appear anywhere in the book.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/12/10/fact-check-media-dems-falsely-claim-kash-patel-has-enemies-list/
The only person ever to be effectively put on an enemies list and subjected to political witch hunt in this sordid drama is Donald Trump. By indulging in the left's paranoid fantasy and effectively endorsing their gaslighting in which THEY become the victims, you undermine your argument and crediblity.
Let's be clear about one thing. If some people knowingly did me wrong, and I put them on an enemies list for the express purpose of legal vengeance, there's not one damn thing wrong about it. Some injustices are errors in judgment or mistakes made in good faith. But others are just premeditated crimes by crooked people. I would not call myself a man if let them off the hook, and there's an extremely profitable industry (lawyers) dedicated to making these people suffer.
I don't care if Trump had penchant for using violent rhetoric on his political opponents. It's not my problem that they went out of their way to validate his paranoia by engaging in the exact kind of behavior Trump blustered about. Make an argument on why no one should go to jail or at least investigated over the NYC case.
Trump following Nixon‘s example? Seriously?
How about Trump following Biden‘s example and issuing preventative pardons for his family, associates and friends? I can’t wait to hear the howls of outrage and allegations that democracy itself is being threatened.
"...How about Trump following Biden‘s example and issuing preventative pardons for his family, associates and friends?..."
Any idea of what they might be accused of doing?
I would love to see Trump announce that he was going to pardon everybody associated with his administration.
Biden Justice Department tells court an acceptance of pardon is “a confession of guilt.”
https://x.com/mrddmia/status/1881354857963221468
Any innocent person would refuse a pardon. No prosecutor would risk an acquittal in those circumstances.
Another post from Reason trying to ‘reason’ Biden’s pardons.
LMAO...... Talk about locking-away any doubt that crimes were committed.
"We didn't do anything wrong; but just in case ... We're pardoned!"
Just another, yet WORSE, way to say the D.C. elite are above the law.
If the Republicans were smart, they would call all the pardoned before congress and ask them to explain what illegal conduct was pardoned. They can't plead the 5th if they can't be prosecuted for it, so they'll have to go on record as to their crimes. And if they lie to congress, now they've committed a crime that post-dates the pardon that they can be prosecuted for.
They can also be compelled to disclose the names of any other participants in those crimes, and those individuals could be prosecuted using the pardoneds' testimony.
Just call it a 'Truth & Reconciliation' hearing. Easy Peasy. That could easily go for 2 years. Start sending subpoenas next week.
The pardons are compelling evidence of the criminality of the better part of the entire Biden regime. We should demand that these people account for them, or, as XY posits, we have a "Truth and Reconciliation" hearing.
Considering the extent to which criminals and oath-breakers have WILLFULLY brought the nation to the brink of destruction, it might even be considered a national emergency.
CUE: Heads exploding... Well, it certainly warrants some serious thought!
This was a bad idea all around. Maybe Biden was justified in issuing pardons for prosecutions initiated during Trump's term in office, since he threatened political retribution, but not ad infinitum. It's a really bad precedent.
I also think pardoning the thugs who beat up officers on Jan 6 is unforgivable. Sure pardon the people who wandered around like tourists in the capital. But, why pardon the thugs unless you want thugs to attack anyone who goes against your politics in the future?
This is banana republic behavior. It treats people who pissed off Trump as guilty, ruining their reputations, and the obviously guilty (attacks seen on videotape) as innocent.
Credible threats of legal retaliation by an unhinged fascist....
Who then pardons treason....
It's a great country as long as you can keep it
The interesting thing is that the pardons were NOT identical.
Hunter got the grade A ticket, immunity for all federal crimes whatsoever.
Biden's other family members only got immunity for non-violent crimes.
The rest of the lot only got pardons for work related crimes.
From this we can deduce that Dad either knew or suspected that Hunter had some nasty skeletons in his closet; Maybe he murdered a prostitute during one of his drug binges, or something like that.
The family were just guilty of financial crimes, but had no blood on their hands.
And the rest were just to stop Trump from going after insubordinate employees from his first term, like Fauci, who violated the law against funding gain of function research, or Milley, who promised the Chinese that he'd commit treason. And serves as a sort of implicit promise to bureaucrats during his current administration: "Go ahead and break the law to thwart Trump, we'll have your back when the next Democrat takes office!"
I will always believe that Hunter authored those "presidential" pardons.
Supposedly, a pardon doesn't stop you from being called to testify. You can't take the 5th.
But yeah, a 10 year pardon for stuff - nothing to hide there.
These overly broad pardons are tantamount to an admission of guilt.
Pre-emptive pardon is a fancy way of saying immunity. Presidents do not have the power of granting immunity. That is a judicial action. Once again, the man that believes he can conjure constitutional amendments out of thin air is overstepping the limits of his office.
You have to have an offense before you get a pardon. At a minimum, these offenses should have been listed. Even Ford, when pardoning Nixon, made the point that there were numerous potential charges that were being considered against him.
"who took his second oath of office today in the same building that his supporters invaded and vandalized four years ago"
Show me the vandalization Sullum you liar. Yeap they went in a sprayed painted everywhere ..oh wait they took pictures. Show me what they wrecked.
You are a reason people hate the media and Reason. Get bent. You voted for Biden, the most corrupt president ever. Everyone knew it before he was elected. You ignored it