Trump's Pick To Run the FCC Wants To Restrict the Editorial Discretion of Social Media Platforms
"Reining in Big Tech," Brendan Carr says, requires scrapping liability protections and restricting moderation decisions.

Announcing his choice of Brendan Carr as chairman of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) on Sunday, President-elect Donald Trump described him as "a warrior for Free Speech," which sounds good until you ask what Trump means by that. Carr, who has served as a Republican FCC commissioner since Trump appointed him during his first term in August 2017, believes that promoting freedom of speech requires curtailing liability protections for social media platforms and restricting their editorial discretion.
Carr's agenda for "reining in Big Tech," as described in the chapter that he contributed to the Heritage Foundation's 2025 Mandate for Leadership, includes new FCC rules aimed at restricting the liability protection offered by Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. Carr also supports regulations that would "impose transparency rules on Big Tech" and legislation that "scraps Section 230's current approach." He favors "reforms that prohibit discrimination against core political viewpoints," which he says "would track the approach taken in a social media law passed in Texas."
That law, which says social media platforms may not "censor" content based on "viewpoint," was the focus of NetChoice v. Paxton, a case that the U.S. Supreme Court decided in February along with Moody v. NetChoice, which involved a similar Florida law. In both cases, the Court unanimously vacated appeals court decisions (upholding the Texas law and blocking provisions of Florida's law, respectively), saying they did not properly apply the First Amendment. But as Reason's Elizabeth Nolan Brown noted, the opinion by Justice Elena Kagan, which was joined in full by four of her colleagues, supported the argument that moderation decisions are a form of constitutionally protected editorial discretion.
"While much about social media is new, the essence of that project is something this Court has seen before," Kagan wrote. "Traditional publishers and editors also select and shape other parties' expression into their own curated speech products. And we have repeatedly held that laws curtailing their editorial choices must meet the First Amendment's requirements. The principle does not change because the curated compilation has gone from the physical to the virtual world. In the latter, as in the former, government efforts to alter an edited compilation of third-party expression are subject to judicial review for compliance with the First Amendment."
Carr takes a different view. "The FCC has an important role to play in addressing the threats to individual liberty posed by corporations that are abusing dominant positions in the market," he writes. "Nowhere is that clearer than when it comes to Big Tech and its attempts to drive diverse political viewpoints from the digital town square."
Carr re-upped that complaint in an X post on Friday. "Facebook, Google, Apple, Microsoft & others have played central roles in the censorship cartel," he wrote. "The Orwellian named NewsGuard along with 'fact checking' groups & ad agencies helped enforce one-sided narratives. The censorship cartel must be dismantled."
As Carr sees it, the threat to freedom of expression comes from Big Tech, not from laws and regulations that aim to limit its discretion in deciding which "curated speech products" to offer. "Today, a handful of corporations can shape everything from the information we consume to the places we shop," he says. "These corporate behemoths are not merely exercising market power; they are abusing dominant positions. They are not simply prevailing in the free market; they are taking advantage of a landscape that has been skewed—in many cases by the government—to favor their business models over those of their competitors. It is hard to imagine another industry in which a greater gap exists between power and accountability."
Section 230, Carr argues, is one way that landscape has been skewed. That law, which supporters describe as "the internet's First Amendment," includes two provisions addressing the civil liability of "interactive computer services," defined broadly to include "any information service, system, or access software provider that provides or enables computer access by multiple users to a computer server."
Section 230(c)(1) says "no provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider." Section 230(c)(2) says "no provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be held liable on account of…any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected." The latter provision also precludes liability for "any action taken to enable or make available to information content providers or others the technical means to restrict access" to user-posted material.
There are several exceptions to Section 230's liability protection, including material that violates federal criminal laws, impinges on intellectual property, or facilitates sex trafficking. But the general idea is to avoid potentially crippling civil liability for services that feature user-posted content while leaving space for content moderation. Without those protections, platforms might feel financially constrained either to refrain from any attempt at moderation or to engage in proactive, heavy-handed moderation aimed at avoiding lawsuits.
Carr is not a fan of Section 230. He joins Justice Clarence Thomas in arguing that federal courts have interpreted the law's protections too broadly. He says "the FCC should issue an order that interprets Section 230 in a way that eliminates the expansive, non-textual immunities that courts have read into the statute." More fundamentally, Carr objects to Section 230 itself. He favors Texas-style legislation "ensuring that Internet companies no longer have carte blanche to censor protected speech while maintaining their Section 230 protections."
As Carr concedes, his view of the government's role in promoting "a diversity of viewpoints" on social media is "not shared uniformly by all conservatives," some of whom "do not think that the FCC or Congress should act in a way that regulates the content-moderation decisions of private platforms." Those conservatives, he notes, argue that "doing so would intrude—unlawfully in their view—on the First Amendment rights of corporations to exclude content from their private platforms."
A Republican-controlled Congress that shares Carr's view of Big Tech might be inclined to approve the sort of legislation he favors, which comports with Trump's own resentment of moderation decisions he views as politically biased. (By contrast, Carr's support for the federal TikTok ban is consistent with Trump's position during his first term but contradicts his recent reconsideration of that policy.) Given what the Supreme Court has said about constitutional limits on interference with moderation decisions, however, a Texas-style federal law probably would not survive judicial review.
Carr also suggests less ambitious measures to curtail Big Tech's power. "The FCC and Congress should work together to formulate rules that empower consumers," he says. "One idea is to empower consumers to choose their own content filters and fact checkers, if any. The FCC should also work with Congress to ensure stronger protections against young children accessing social media sites despite age restrictions that generally prohibit their use of these sites."
Even without new legislation, Carr thinks the FCC can and should limit Section 230's protections by narrowly construing them. Trump attempted something similar with an executive order he issued during his first term. Among other things, it instructed the FCC to clarify the law's scope by elucidating "good faith" moderation.
Trump "has [a] right to seek review of [the] statute's application," Republican FCC Commissioner Mike O'Rielly said in response to news of the order. "As a conservative, I'm troubled voices are stifled by liberal tech leaders. At same time, I'm extremely dedicated to First Amendment which governs much here." FCC Chairman Ajit Pai, who had earlier resisted Trump's suggestion that broadcast licenses should be contingent on whether news coverage makes him look bad, said only that the commission "will carefully review any petition for rulemaking." Carr was more enthusiastic, saying the federal government had "provided virtually no guidance on the 'good faith' limitation Congress included in Section 230." While some Republicans welcomed the order, several conservatives panned it as extralegal and unconstitutional.
In his Mandate for Leadership chapter, Carr also suggests "the FCC could require these platforms to provide greater specificity regarding their terms of service, and it could hold them accountable by prohibiting actions that are inconsistent with those plain and particular terms." He says "Big Tech should be required to offer a transparent appeals process that allows for the challenging of pretextual takedowns or other actions that violate clear rules of the road."
Carr cites Section 230 and the Consolidated Reporting Act as "potential sources of authority" for imposing such requirements. But while Section 230 mentions the value of "user control" and "a true diversity of political discourse," it does not include any specific FCC authority regarding either. The Consolidated Reporting Act, which requires the FCC to publish information on "the state of the communications marketplace," likewise does not say anything about mandates on social media platforms.
Carr has "proposed to do a lot of things he has no jurisdiction to do," Jessica Gonzalez, co-CEO of the advocacy group Free Press, told The New York Times. "In other cases, he's blatantly misreading the rules." Carr's regulatory agenda is apt to run into legal trouble, especially given the recent Supreme Court decision that curtailed the ability of executive agencies to invent their own authority.
Carr's Mandate for Leadership essay does not say much about broadcast licenses, which Trump has repeatedly said should be revoked when news organizations offend him. But after Trump's election victory, Carr said the FCC "will have an important role to play" in "ensuring that broadcasters operate in the public interest." And Carr has previously expressed some sympathy for Trump's argument that broadcast outlets subvert "the public interest" when they cover the news in ways he does not like.
When Trump complained that CBS had edited a 60 Minutes interview with Vice President Kamala Harris to make her seem more cogent than she actually was, for example, Carr entertained the possibility that CBS might have engaged in "broadcast news distortion." At the same time, Carr implicitly acknowledged that such a claim, which would require proving that CBS "deliberately distorted a factual news report," was a stretch. "In my view," he told Glenn Beck, "the best way forward" would be to "release the transcript," which would mean "there's no reason to have this before the FCC."
After Trump's ABC debate with Harris, he argued that the FCC "ought to take away their license" because the moderators fact-checked him but not her. When Carr was asked about Trump's threat during a House hearing in September, he repeatedly declined to say whether such a punishment would be justified, although he did say that his record at the FCC reflected "a consistent pattern" of taking positions "based on the law, the facts, and the First Amendment."
By contrast, Carr publicly addressed Trump's complaint about Harris' appearance on Saturday Night Live shortly before the election. "This is a clear and blatant effort to evade the FCC's Equal Time rule," Carr wrote on X. "The purpose of the rule is to avoid exactly this type of biased and partisan conduct—a licensed broadcaster using the public airwaves to exert its influence for one candidate on the eve of an election."
Although it is not clear how open Carr will be to Trump's complaints about unfair news coverage, it does seem clear that he has no qualms about the weird status of broadcasters under current law. Unlike other news sources, broadcasters are subject to FCC content regulation, including the prohibition of "broadcast news distortion," the "equal time" rule, and the ban on broadcast indecency.
"The law in this area is, regrettably, complicated," notes UCLA First Amendment specialist Eugene Volokh. "The Supreme Court has broadly protected the right of newspapers, magazines, book authors, filmmakers, cable companies, Internet companies, and others to speak, without the fear that a government agency will strip them of the right to speak based on the content of their speech. But the rule for broadcast television and radio has been different."
Volokh notes that both Thomas and the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, ordinarily seen as representing opposite poles on the Supreme Court, have "suggested that it was unsound to offer lesser First Amendment protection to broadcasting." That concern is well founded, Volokh suggests, because "the FCC can't be trusted to police supposed 'misinformation' on radio and television any more than some Federal Newspaper Commission could be trusted to police supposed misinformation in newspapers."
The main historical rationale for treating broadcasters differently—that the "scarcity" of "the public airwaves" required government control—never made much sense. It makes even less sense in the current media environment, where the exact route that information travels on its way to listeners and viewers has no obvious constitutional significance. But because of the increasingly puzzling legal distinction between broadcasting and other modes of communication, an FCC chairman's understanding of "the public interest" remains a potential threat to freedom of the press.
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You mean he wants to restrict the contractual legal protections that allow SV companies to act with contracts that no other industry enjoys.
Oh noes. Act according to standard contract law.
Yeah. Reason has never seemed to have an issue with unilateral contractual changes.
JS;dr.
especially, good faith requirements implied by law into every contract.
@JesseAz BASED!
>>believes that promoting freedom of speech requires curtailing liability protections for social media platforms and restricting their editorial discretion.
curtailing liability protections for speech suppression and restricting editorial discretion to the editors not the feds seems less objectionable
Making NO editorial decisions is the price of liability restriction.
Social media should not be restricting legal content. Anything taken down should be accompanied by a referral to legal authorities.
Serious question: what would be illegal speech?
Direct advocacy of violence, soliciting criminal activity, that sort of thing.
Illegal content would include explicit pornography and the like.
Things that get you arrested in real life.
Exactly. It's a very simple process:
* If a court orders it, take it down.
* If a reader doesn't like it, let the reader alert the cops and get a prosecution and a court order.
* Otherwise, leave it the fuck alone.
* Or implement a rating system, by users, and let users decide which raters to trust, or which ratings, so they can hide the spam, obscenities, trolls, and whatever other objectionable comments they don't like.
What if I want to launch a family friendly, traditional conservative Christian social media platform, but I'm overrun with LGBTQ, pro-choice or otherwise Christian-unfriendly protest spam/trolling? No recourse? Minority unpopular views will be de facto silenced.
Set up the goddam rating system. If you want filters which rate new comments before any human has seen them, go ahead.
* Stop deleting comments.
* Stop deleting accounts.
ETA
* If abusive commenters maliciously rate comments, a proper rating system would flag those users and they would lose their rating privileges, or if users can choose which raters to trust, they would lose trust.
This is not hard.
I think it is hard.
A user rating system means a platform can be overtaken by a malicious majority. A big problem for controversial minority free speech.
New comment filters can be set up to moderate pretty much exactly as what happened in 2020. This fixes nothing.
It sounds like you're advocating giving lawyers lots of new text for loopholes.
If you have a need for an exclusive community, charge a membership fee.
Freedom isn't free and neither is free speech, I guess.
Speech is free. Freedom from other idiots comes with a price.
Alright, let’s get back to basics.
The problem is social media advertising themselves as the way for family, friends, like minds, and others to keep in touch, and for businesses to keep in touch with their customers.
Then they cancel accounts, delete comments, and provide the most opaque appeals process possible.
Their customers’ only recourse is expensive and slow lawsuits, because the US judicial system is intentionally made to discourage “trivial” lawsuits.
§230 haw been bent into shape as the great government savior come to save online communities’ free speech. It was meant for just that family friendly environment you suggest. It has been abused beyond belief to censor and shape political discourse at the behest of governments.
Is that what you want?
Like Dlam says, you can charge a membership fee.
Like I said, you can implement a rating system, which contrary to your belief, is not hard to implement; I wrote one way back in the late 1990s as a prototype on a 486 Linux system running Postgresql and Perl.
But letting Big Tech sensor and violate their own marketing and Terms of Service is not the solution.
They can even add clear, easily understood rules.
What they can't do is use vague language. That is what contracts disallow. And would find in favor of the customer if vague.
Make the sites be explicit with their rules.
Want to be biased assholes, say so.
And bam any eaters of shit from commenting. Something reason should have been done here years ago.
I hope you're not getting angry with me. You're one of my favorite commenters here, and I would prefer to stay on friendly terms, but I do enjoy a friendly disagreement especially with someone that I respect.
I didn't mean a rating system is hard to implement. I know nothing about that, but I now see I misunderstood your point there. I thought you meant a solution was easy and I'm saying it isn't. But if you meant a rating system is easy, I'll take your word for it.
So I agree. All the problems you raise are indeed real issues.
The solution is the free market. It's slow, but it better than government intervention. We've seen it work over the past few years with Elon buying Twitter and other companies showing signs of correcting course. I don't use any social media other than youtube because it doesn't suit me.
For all the issues with social media 4 years ago, look where we are today. 2024 doesn't look anything like 2020. That's the invisible hand.
SGT lost all of my respect when he defended Jesse a few times recently and tried some of his same dishonest rhetorical tricks.
Lol.
How pathetic.
You mean he saw you being dishonest and called you on your bullshit sarc?
Your usual. Putting words into my mouth and attacking them, and calling me a liar when I disputed what he said I agreed with. It’s all you do around here. People who defend you should be ashamed.
Are you already drunk crying tonight buddy?
My turn. Yes, I did misunderstand your complaint that a rating system is hard.
I started my Chartertopia project because it seemed like every single problem government addressed was caused by previous government fixes. It struck me most clearly while researching the Fed's origins in the Panic of 1907, whose roots were in previous fixes going back to the Panic of 1819, which was caused by ... you get the picture.
I have come to the conclusion that if government actually does solve some problems, I have not yet seen it. So every time I see someone suggesting more laws and regulations, it's easy to lose patience.
Sarc, you lost big. And you’re going to keep losing. So it’s going to be fun watching you implode bit by bit.
Sure, but granting only some portion of services legal immunity isn’t “the free market”. It’s a massively tilted playing field. The idea was to give network operators the sort of protections that the phone company gets. But I've never had the phone company censor my calls.
I started my Chartertopia
It sounds like you're personally invested and experienced with all this.
I have come to the conclusion that if government actually does solve some problems, I have not yet seen it. So every time I see someone suggesting more laws and regulations, it’s easy to lose patience.
I agree. I guess we both think we are arguing for less government, but disagree on what that is. Maybe we'll sort it out in future comments.
Sure, but granting only some portion of services legal immunity isn’t “the free market”. It’s a massively tilted playing field.
I disagree. S230 applies to everyone. It covers the internet which is necessarily different from phone, print media or TV because it's public and interactive.
Under Carr, you are out of luck.
He Charlie! Hope you’re having an absolutely Trumptastic day.
"I’m overrun with LGBTQ, pro-choice or otherwise Christian-unfriendly protest spam/trolling? No recourse? Minority unpopular views will be de facto silenced."
Forgo 230 and and take editorial responsibility or suck it up. This isn't hard.
Ok. Should I be liable for what others post on my platform? If someone uses my hypothetical christian platform to groom and victimize a child (this is what happens when you trust a preist) and I miss it because I'm too busy or whatever, am I responsible?
Is a bus station liable for hucksters taking advantage of rubes from out of town?
*DLAM in black and white holding a cigarette continues*
It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge.
I wish I was that cool.
This sounds like you should probably have some automated pre-screening implemented before launching such a site, especially if you anticipate this. A high quality community site should also incorporate moderators.
Groups have managed this since forum days. If you want something bigger, you need to develop the infrastructure to support it.
It really isn't complicated.
It requires clearly set rules for being on the site.
That knitting site said explicitly no Trump patterns. That was clear. It was direct.
Twitter has very generalized language and constantly reinterprets what the language means. That is the issue.
That knitting site said explicitly no Trump patterns. That was clear. It was direct.
Is this real or something made-up, and if it's real was Trump the only banned pattern?
Yes it is real you ignorant fuck. It was commented on quite a bit here.
Try to stop drinking yourself to blackouts and maybe you'd be capable of learning. ENB even had it in a roundup.
And yes. Their rule was clear. People just left. Amazing how clear contractual language works.
Was Trump the only banned pattern?
There goes my make doilies great again idea.
They implemented a rule specific to Trump, yes. For someone who yells Google it you sure don't want to educate yourself.
Was Trump the only banned pattern?
Jesse, you should know by now. Sarc doesn’t learn lessons.
and if it’s real was Trump the only banned pattern?
Nice red herring. The answer is, it's completely irrelevant. It's what is called "an example". And Jesse never implied that it was only Trump patterns banned.
But, hey, you keep doing you, braindead sarcjeff.
If Twitter has TOS that are vague and include the clauses "subject to change at any time" and "any post or user can be removed for any reason at any time" and I as a consumer agree, should the federal government prevent me from making that decision; should the feds protect me from myself?
The feds have no business doing anything here but settling contract disputes.
What other industry can include a clause that gives them sole power to change terms of a contract at whim?
That is what is called an unconscionable term and would very ruled void.
https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/what-is-an-unconscionable-contract.html
The company would be held liable for lost revenue incurred by the client. If they had a business, lost revenue. If photos, court deemed costs.
This is literally standard contract laws.
Why do you insist this industry be excluded? What benefit is there?
I think all parties should be free to make, accept or refuse any contract in all industries. If those terms are too broad people shouldn't agree and the market will correct.
You’re such a liar. Jesse told you what your priorities are when he told you what you insist. You’re contradicting him. How dare you? You’re such a leftist.
*whisper* It’s the only way to avoid being piled on. Give in. Be a douche.
/SGT
Poor sarc, so many ideas™ !
So if you agree to become a slave for life for 1 dollar you’re shit out of luck? Market can’t change the terms set. Oddly enough you’re fine with a contract clause to change terms at whim.
Here is what you’re arguing in support of. It even goes above simple contracts.
When YouTube first started they wanted customers to generate content. They promided a cut of all ad revenue. Creators went and drove viewership. They got paid.
Now YouTube has market dominance. They cut off the creators they made promises to. Removed ad revenue. Deleted channels and creators from the customers they brought.
You think this is the market at work? Lol. It is abuse and violations of agreements made. One sided. Because they aren't forced to gollow standard contract laws.
You’ve told me what I believe, what I think and what I support, and argued against it. Is my participation required? Seems you have this argument with me all under control without me. I think I’ll just let you continue. All I do is get in the way.
But in response to YouTube's shitty behavior, other video streaming sites have popped up. Such as Rumble. THAT is the market at work. No government coercion was necessary for that to happen.
That is what inevitably happens when a company starts to get market dominance in any field, not just in tech - they start taking their customers for granted. And the slighted customers take notice and take their business elsewhere. So eventually, either the big company realizes that they are losing market share and decide to turn things around, or they don't and they eventually lose market dominance. But this process takes time, it is not instantaneous.
So you think that companies should be free to use illegal contracts?
So if you agree to become a slave for life for 1 dollar you’re shit out of luck?
I'm in favor of anti slavery laws. As long as the would be slave is voluntarily slaving, of sound mind and the contract wasn't made under duress, then yes. But you can't own a person, so the slave could walk away and the only recourse for the other party is to get their dollar back.
Here is what you’re arguing in support of...When YouTube...
You think this is the market at work? Lol.
Yes.
So you think that companies should be free to use illegal contracts?
Not sure who you're asking...
No illegal is illegal. But what do you mean illegal contract?
Trying not to jump to conclusions... Are you just saying there should be liability for those that host speech but otherwise we can keep posting and editing as we do now?
Too many people don't know that PUBLISHERS are liable for the content they publish. The liability protections for FORUMS were granted on the basis of allowing EVERYTHING to be posted on their sites.
Yes, I am aware that is basically what you said.
And section 230 was some bizarre and vague concession to good faith moderation to police content the way we might police our neighborhoods - decency standards.
"Anything taken down should be accompanied by a referral to legal authorities."
It would be better if anything taken down, was done so by a court order ruling the poster broke the law.
js;dr.
That's why we read comments, not articles.
Yep.
"threats to individual liberty posed by corporations that are abusing dominant positions in the market"
The way to address this is by enforcing antitrust law, not by overriding the First Amendment.
The only real monopolies are those created by governments, by regulations, by patents, or "hidden" diktat. Antitrust law is a fraud.
Huge healthcare conglomerates buy-up practices and then spike prices because they can and there aren't any other practices people can go to in the area. You don't have 'choice' because when you are sick you aren't able to travel for 3 hours.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertpearl/2023/01/16/us-healthcare-a-conglomerate-of-monopolies/
Then there are the pharma 'middlemen' driving prices up (e.g. insulin prices that went up 100s of percents)
https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2024/09/24/federal-regulator-hauls-huge-drug-middlemen-into-court-over-insulin-prices/
Health care is an arena where more pushback is needed against monopolism than other areas. If the prices of potato chips goes up due to consolidation of potato chip companies you can just not eat potato chips. People have no choice about consuming health care.
That was a feature of Obamacare. Driving out small practices
If the government can tell large companies what to communicate and not communicate via social media, it can tell you what to communicate/not communicate. Goodbye First Amendment, which is fine with the Project 2025 crowd.
Precisely.
Mussolini did something similar in Italy a century ago.
You democrats just got caught with both hands in the cookie jar telling social media companies what to say.
If the government can tell large companies what to communicate and not communicate via social media, it can tell you what to communicate/not communicate.
Project 2025 is not responsible for the actions of Democrats. What you describe is exactly what Leftist collectivist nanny-state Karen cunts want. Fuck off with your projection.
It would seem to me that online social media companies should have a relationship between how much they censor political viewpoints and their liability for the content posted on their site. For instance, Facebook was very heavy handed in censoring political points of view, so Facebook should have a higher degree of liability for what is posted on their site. In other words, because of Facebook's heavy handed censorship, it should be easier to sue Facebook.
I don’t think anyone would be complaining if their censorship was non-partisan. But it wasn’t. That’s why we need to get revenge and retribution on Facebook and the like. Make them pay for what they did to Trump.
And that’s how you go from 0 to retard in 10 words
I learned it by watching you!
Poor sarc. Taking the loss very hard,
Boring and sad.
It took the whole ten and not zero?
Sarc is a more obnoxious version of Rickety Cricket.
No. No one would be complaining if the Terms of Service were clear and enforced in an even-handed manner, free of groupthink Leftist government coercion.
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I unmuted you to see what you said, and I was not disappointed.
I unmuted you and saw you stole my schtick which I stole from sarc.
Good day sir. I said good day.
But
Fez!Jesse!But democrats did it first, so it’s ok.
Fair.
Section 230 as it stands was never properly aligned with the original ethos of the internet. TCP/IP is designed as a stack of layers, at greater levels of abstraction. Rather than combine the roles of carrier and publisher, they should be separate layers of the networks. A short messaging service, a social graph, etc are transport layer activities that should be regulated as common carriers. The applications that sit above those services would be your X, Facebook, BlueSky, whatever, and they would be allowed to curate or add to the underlying uncensored feed as their customers desired. You can’t both be fish and fowl, carrier and curator.
Fuzzy Wuzzy was a bear. Fuzzy Wuzzy had no hair. Fuzzy Wuzzy wasn’t fuzzy was he?
Ideas™ !
Very, very brain damaged ideas that don't align a whole lot with reality.
But should the content layers be exempt from esp defamation laws, when they heavily moderate or curate content? The purpose of § 230 was to protect the carrier layer, treating it like phone lines, and not the content layer.
> "Traditional publishers and editors also select and shape other parties' expression into their own curated speech products."
Yes, and traditional publishers and editors have full legal liability for their curated speech products.
Out of the traditional categories of publisher, distributor, and common carrier, the tech platforms want the control over content exerted by publishers, paired with the legal liability of common carriers.
I fully understand why they want that. I just don't see any particular reason they should get it.
Well stated.
Nobody objects to them having editorial control.
They object to them having editorial control and immunity from lawsuits for how they exercise it.
It never ceases to amaze when the so-called "libertarians" at Reason make excuses for entities that engage in fraud.
Nothing says tackling companies "abusing dominant positions in the market" like raising significant barriers for new competition attempting to enter those markets.
moderation decisions are a form of constitutionally protected editorial discretion
Up is down, down is up, wet roads cause rain, and censorship is protected free speech.
Again, you tards continue to demonstrate your abject dishonest stupidity on the issue. To the point that it demonstrates that you don’t actually care about free speech *or* property rights.
First, nobody is saying editors cannot edit or editorialize. You were free to keep cigar reviews in Cigar Aficianado magazine and out of your Modern Housekeeping Magazine before Section 230. Free to tell the cigar smokers to head over to their own forum online before Section 230.
Second, if you put out an issue of Modern Housekeeping that was full of Cigar Aficianado articles and ads and your subscribers cancelled their subscriptions, demanded refunds, and sued you, they would be well within their rights to be compensated for a breach of contract. This is the case with protecting firearm manufacturers. If they sell me a 9mm handgun that won’t fire 9mm rounds, they are still liable. If they sell someone a shotgun for duck hunting and the person uses it to go shoot someone, they can't be sued.
Third, again despite your retardation and dishonesty, what actually took place was actual, no-fuck, censorship on behalf of a political regime under the guise of Section 230. This wasn’t your “some editors decided…” bullshit. This was no-shit “The DOJ will send you lists of topics not to promote and/or allow/encourage users to talk about.”
The fact that you continue to traipse around this so dishonestly only demonstrates how broken the magazine and/or Reason-brand, Failure+, “civil libertarianism” is.
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“Editorial discretion” is code for “censorship.” We didn’t let the phone company censor the speech its customers making phone calls. We should not let Facebook or X censor comments by its customers unless they are demonstrably illegal, I.e. child porn or calling for violence - and no, “offensive” language is NOT violence.
Facebook and X are private companies. Here's a novel concept - we should let private companies run their own companies! That's the only true libertarian position to take.
We’ve been over this before. It’s not complicated. Choose one or the other:
1. Social media companies are neutral platforms that do not exercise control over communications on their network (like the phone company), and so should be afforded the protections of section 230.
2. Social media companies do exercise control over their content (like TV, newspapers) and shouldn’t be afforded the protections of section 230.
But every social media company wants to have it both ways. They want the power to censor content they don’t like or manipulate who it’s visible to, and at the same time dishonestly claim they are simply platforms and not responsible for the content there.
Every company of every kind wants it both ways. But only gargantuan oligopolies have the money (and the resulting ownership of Washington) to get it both ways.
It's like Reason just can't grasp that getting the protections of being a social media platform means you don't get any editorial discretion other than with regard to openly illegality.
If the media mistreated Trump, they have been duly punished by hi re-election. The remedy for "bad" speech is more speech., not censorship.
So, social media platforms should have the same rights as a traditional publisher but none of the responsibilities. I guess that makes sense in Sullumland.