Trump Is Not Thoughtful Enough To Be a Fascist
The Republican presidential candidate’s views do not reflect any unifying principle other than self-interest.

John Kelly, the former Marine general who served as Donald Trump's second chief of staff, thinks the former president "falls into the general definition of 'fascist.'" Gen. Mark Milley, whom Trump appointed as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, goes further, describing his ex-boss as "fascist to the core."
Rebutting those charges, John Bolton, Trump's former national security adviser, says the Republican presidential candidate is not thoughtful enough to be a fascist. Bolton's take seems more accurate: Trump's views, which combine long-standing authoritarian impulses with politically convenient positions of more recent vintage, do not reflect any unifying principle other than self-interest.
The incoherence of Trump's thinking is reflected in the incoherence of his speech, which in rallies and interviews flits from one topic to another for no apparent reason. His randomly capitalized social media rants resemble wacky email missives destined for the trash bin, written by the sort of unhinged crank you would move away from if you encountered him in public.
Trump's preening, pettiness, and prevarication are striking even for a politician. During his four years in office, he could barely open his mouth without lying, beginning with his self-aggrandizing claims about the size of the crowd at his inauguration and culminating in his insistence, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that he had actually won reelection.
That second whopper began as comedy and ended as tragedy. When Trump started arguing that voters could not possibly have rejected him, I thought he would eventually come to terms with reality.
That never happened. Trump's reckless conduct before, during, and after the Capitol riot, when supporters outraged by his stolen-election fantasy violently interrupted the congressional ratification of Joe Biden's victory, amply justified his second impeachment and should have disqualified him from ever again holding federal office.
Trump refused to play by the rules, which would have been enough to get him booted from my weekly poker game. The requirements for the presidency should be at least as strict.
The rules in the latter case include not just abiding by election results but also recognizing the limits that the Constitution imposes on presidential authority. Whatever you think about Kelly and Milley's use of the f-word, this much rings true: Trump not only did not acknowledge those constitutional constraints; he did not comprehend the idea that his subordinates had a higher duty than obedience to his will.
People who nevertheless support Trump this time around often argue that his illiberal tendencies did not amount to much during his first term. But things are different now in several important ways.
First, Trump has accumulated more grievances against the political opponents he blames for persecuting him. He has repeatedly threatened to punish those "enemies from within" if he regains power, whether through criminal investigations, revocation of broadcast licenses, or other routes of retribution.
Second, the U.S. Supreme Court has endorsed a broad version of presidential immunity from criminal liability for "official acts." That license explicitly encompasses a president's communications with the Justice Department, one of the chief ways that Trump could make life unpleasant for his critics.
Third, Trump during his first term was restrained by calmer voices that are unlikely to get a place at the table during a second term. To give you a sense of what that could mean, Boris Epshteyn, a lawyer who played a key role in Trump's attempts to reverse the 2020 election results, is reportedly a contender for White House counsel.
Former Vice President Mike Pence, who resisted Trump's pressure to intervene in the January 2021 tally of electoral votes, has rebuked his former boss for asking him to subvert the Constitution. By contrast, Pence's replacement, Sen. J.D. Vance (R–Ohio), says he would have been happy to do Trump's bidding.
None of this bodes well for a second Trump term. Anyone who dismisses his vows of vengeance as meaningless bluster is asking voters to recklessly assume he does not mean what he says.
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Fuck Sullum.
That is all.
When your only choice is a corrupt leader, it’s better that they’re stupid
That's YOUR choice, TDS-addled pile of Nazi shit.
Is that how it works for you and your Hezbollah and Hamas friends?
Don’t get your hopes up.
You’re too stupid. Hahaha
Joe said half the people he governs are garbage. Image that.
Like Puerto Rico?
That was so RACIST! Puerto Rico isn't floating!
So, it won't capsize?
not until we build a base on the west side story.
What's behind that "racist" joke?
https://www.theenvironmentalblog.org/2024/10/puerto-rico-trash-problem/
It's almost like a roast comic made a joke about the very serious problem PR is facing caused by the storm and the complete ineptitude of their 2 leftist political parties who only really differ in whether they want to become a US state. A problem which the Biden administration has basically completely ignored.
It would be nice for PR if people would understand this and try to solve the problem. But instead let's ignore the problem and just call people racist.
If they were smarter they wouldn’t live on a floating pile of garbage in the first place.
It's almost like people listened to what the comedian actually said, instead of the sanewashed version you just made up. Trump Supporter Derangement Syndrome is a hell of a drug, it leads people to make excuses for Trump and his goons no matter how blatantly stupid and evil they are being.
Jack Benny said: “Take my wife, please!”
Was he pimping her? You seem to take it that way.
Progs have no concept of humor or irony.
"While I am running a campaign of positive solutions to save America, Kamala Harris is running a campaign of hate. She has spent all week comparing her political opponents to the most evil mass murderers in history. Now, on top of everything, Joe Biden calls our supporters 'garbage.' You can't lead America if you don't love the American People. Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have shown they are both unfit to be President of the United States.
I am proud to lead the biggest, broadest, and most important political coalition in American history. We are welcoming historic numbers of Latinos, African Americans, Asian Americans, and citizens of every race, religion, color, and creed. It is my desire to be the President of all the people."
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1851481562744840576
Such destructive fascist language.
Has anyone noticed how Reason has been piling on the TDS in the past week? It's like they've pulled out all the stops, because God forbid Trump beat the ACTUAL fascists running for POTUS. Does anyone believe this magazine actually has a shred of libertarian left in it? It's almost as if this guy is on to something:
https://x.com/jeremykauffman/status/1839665795921539487
They are desperate.
TDS isn't real. The reason people keep freaking out about Trump and all the stupid and horrible stuff he does is that he really is stupid and horrible and that is objectively worth freaking out about.
Stupid and horrible 4 years in office hurt you? How? Show us on the dolly all the diverse ways the bad man harmed you personally.
You know who else ran a campaign of hate?
Hillary?
Um... the folks who supported this platform? 24. We demand freedom for all religious denominations within the state as long as they do not endanger the state or violate the ethical and moral feelings of the Germanic race.
The party as such subscribes to a positive Christianity without binding itself to a specific denomination. It opposes the Jewish materialistic spirit within and around us and is convinced that a lasting recovery can only come about from within based on the principle: THE COMMON GOOD BEFORE THE INDIVIDUAL GOOD.
The guy out to get Rod Smart (He Hate Me)?
Harold BlueTooth, Kongen af Danmark
Can you stop with the Trump Supporter Derangement Syndrome and sanewashing? You know that Trump says all kinds of fascist garbage all the time. Tweets like the one you quoted are put together by the toadies in his PR team.
Stop making excuses for him. He's a pathetic little man who isn't fit to be president of anything.
Parody right?
Probably not. These guys ain’t bright enough to make it up.
He said Trump supporters are garbage. About 74 million people, about 22% of the country voted for Trump in 2020. Of those, most, probably the majority, were not Trump supporters, they were regular Republicans who were voting for Trump because they didn't want a Democrat to win, not because they actually liked him. A lot of Republicans "held their nose and voted for Trump," as the saying goes.
So the actual number Biden is saying are garbage is quite smaller, probably less than 10% of the population. I can't say he's wrong. Trump and his supporters have repeatedly said that they are going to destroy or weaken many of the institutions that have made America a great country. The economic policies he advocated would torpedo the economy. His supporters are fine with this, and the only excuse they can give for that is treating the election of Kamala Harris as a moral emergency, even though she's a bog-standard centrist Democrat with moderate policies. Sorry, but this is one case where the shoe fits.
Hateful parody right?
It's difficult to tell hateful parody from full-on retard sometimes.
I'm not sure which way this bot leans.
Hell, I had voted Libertarian in 4 of the previous 5 elections before 2020 and *I* voted Trump, because when I wanted JoJo and Spike to go with "end the mandates" they went with "open borders and anti-racism."
And I just did it again this week because Chase Oliver is about as big a bag of garbage as Kamala Harris. Neither offers much of anything I want, and of the things I do, I wouldn't believe either one of those liars for even a second.
"He has repeatedly threatened to punish those "enemies from within" if he regains power, whether through criminal investigations,"
He chanted "Lock Her Up" but he never actually did it. The Dems, on the other hand, actually prosecuted their political opponent. At least some of those charges would never have been brought against anyone who wasn't named Donald Trump.
Sullum defends Garland and Biden for actually locking up political enemies. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
At least they used established laws and not novel legal theories and bills of attainder, oh wait.
All the Trump prosecutions were based on legal theories from democrat fan fiction as opposed to US law.
WAAAAAH! Pooor baaaybee. Violent Orangopox carrying vandals are still being tried, repeat, tried, found guilty and locked up after gleefully filming themselves breaking, entering and smashing. That Pape fellow who hammered Pelosi's old man... should he be scot-free too? For Jesus? First Amendment? Altruistic motives?
Ol' senile Hanky. Always good for gibberish.
I don’t think he was much more coherent even before the senility.
John Kelly is on the board of Caliburn International which has a huge government contract to house unaccompanied migrant children which will end if Trump wins. Regardless the problem is coercive government not the people in it. The solution is to prohibit government coercion with a 28th amendment, "Government coercion is prohibited."
But the actual purpose of government *is coercion*. That's the point of giving it the 'monopoly on violence'. Government is the things we force other people to do together.
And I'm not taking the piss here. The point of government is forcing other people to do things. Its coercion.
Ideally controlled coercion, with strict limits, but violence is inherent in the system.
Thank you. We need to keep coming back to this point: that government is fundamentally coercive.
Thus we have a constitution that was designed to limit the scope and power of government.
Yeah but supporting it is apparently a republican thing.
The purpose of government is to defend liberty with deterrence which is the retaliatory use of force. Government initiating force is tyranny.
Correct!
“John Kelly is on the board of Caliburn International which has a huge government contract to house unaccompanied migrant children which will end if Trump wins.”
If this is true, then it’s kind of essential context for Kelly’s remark. Though I had to go to the comments section to learn about it.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2005/07/lew-rockwell/regime-libertarians/
Reason’s appeal to MIC authority, fucking pathetic Team Blue prostitutes.
Gen Kelly was not well liked and thought incompetent in his job as Chief of Staff. Troubling allegations of his refusing to pass on information to Trump have surfaced and is one reason he was replaced.
https://thefederalist.com/2024/10/30/john-kelly-and-co-have-some-serious-credibility-issues/
I believe nothing Kelly says despite his masterful schooling of the WH Press Corp on what happens when a soldier, in this case his son, dies in combat and a member of Congress hijacks it for their own purposes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At1hOCEIwE8
good catch
https://www.reuters.com/article/world/us/former-trump-staff-chief-kelly-joins-board-of-migrant-shelter-operator-idUSKCN1S9253/
The NEW Libertarian Moment~! is to always trust the government. Always. Those guys --- THEY have your back on stuff.
Former general on the board of a company that is contracted by the DoD? SHOCKING! And nothing Trump will do will stop people from showing up at the border. They came here because of the horrible conditions in their home countries, not any other reason, and they need to be housed somewhere before they get deported.
But they're called Acuity International now, and you know that's not all they do, right?
"They offer occupational health, disaster response and recovery, global health services, program and construction management, munitions response and demilitarization services, global security services, and base and critical facilities management."
>The Republican presidential candidate’s views do not reflect any unifying principle other than self-interest.
Interesting article - and not one mention of the Democratic candidate.
And yet, at this point in time, we know a lot about the policies Trump wishes to enact while not knowing a single thing about what Harris wants to do as President.
Not one thing. She has not a single policy. Not a single principle has she espoused except self-interest - hence why she wants to take my money and give it to rando black and brown people 'to buy houses'. Oh, and so they can smoke weed without fear of jail. Because this racist thinks that that is super-important to minorities. Smoking weed.
She will, of course, hold fast to her new principle (which she has now always held to even though before she didn't) of supporting abortion for everyone, for any reason.
As President she can't actually do anything about abortion. But she'll impotently 'fight' to make it legal federally. Even though the federal government doesn't have any authority over abortion. But sure, its Trump that will be subverting the constitution. Not 'pen and phone' Barry, not 'we know this EO is not legal but we'll have a few weeks before the courts can do anything about it' Biden. Nosiree.
All the Trump Derangement Syndrome, all the time.
And it, once again, should be noted about the second two paragraphs that if they weren't strictly personal vanity projects or electoral ploys, could've been initiated if not wholly enacted in the last 3.5 yrs.
Arguably even in spades given that they would not be the policies of a diverse, up-and-coming VP, but be the policies of not a lame duck President but a so-dementia-addled-he-can't-run-ever-again duck President. Given the student loan idiocy, vaccine mandates, and 'packing the courts' and then walking it back with a commission, descheduling marijuana should've been a cake walk. But, apparently, nobody anywhere near a seat of power for the last 4 yrs. gave a shit.
An addled and demented president at the end of his term is no new thing. Remember Reagan at the end? Joe just let his addled thoughts slip. I don't think this will make a difference. People willing to call themselves 'Trump supporters' are people who are willing to go out there and vote for him.
The one thing for certain? No matter what happens, Trump will say he won. 'Bigly'.
What Orwell said over half a century ago remains true today: “fascist” has simply come to mean “something undesirable.” From the speaker’s point of view.
So, like a masochist, I read yet another Jakey Jakey News Is Fakey article. He may as well have had it written for him by Media Matters or the Kamala Campaign or the New York Times or the White House Spox (all the same thing). And there is literally nothing there worth commenting on but the subtitle:
The Republican presidential candidate’s views do not reflect any unifying principle other than self-interest.
You're not actually a libertarian, are you Jake. You're more like a hard-left communist. Confirm/Deny.
I have never - ever - heard of a libertarian that had some kind of problem with self-interest.
I'm starting to think that Jake here is some kind of Buffalo Bill wearing libertarianism as a skin-suit.
Observe the Christian National Socialist passing judgment on whether a prolific and accurate Reason reporter is RILLY a libertarian...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Now put on the nose.
From the article, "When Trump started arguing that voters could not possibly have rejected him, I thought he would eventually come to terms with reality."
Well there is FINALLY some GOOD news; Trump has now conceded that Biden won the erections!!!
STOP THE PRESSES!!! INSERT HOTTEST NEWS FLASH!!! BREAKING NEWS!!!
Trump finally (Sort of) concedes the erections!!!!
My most-senior inside contact at the Shadow White House has surreptitiously slipped me an advance copy of the ex-lame-duck POTUS’s concession speech. Without further ado, here it is:
Friends, non-foreigner-type True Americans, and all who Make America Great Again, lend me your ears! I come to bury Biden, not to praise him. Biden and his minions stole the erections, and we must dishonor that! To Make America Great Again, we must invent the most fantastic, fabulous, YUUUGEST BIGNESS EVAH SEEN, in the ways of truly factually fictitious, but Spiritually and Metaphorically True, NEW Republican ballots! Because I have directed My Generals and My Scientists to research the current and past performance, efficacy, and patriotism of one-party states, versus multi-party states. As I have directed them to, My impartial, unbiased, data-driven council of My Generals and My Scientists have determined that yea verily, one-party states work better! Therefore, we must all strive for the Glorious Day, when America becomes a one-party state, under the One True Party, the Republican Party!
But for now, the courts have sided with Biden and his camel-toe, and Antifa, BLM, and all the Marxist terrorists. We must let the courts have it their way, with mayo on the side. I mean, with Mao Tse Tung on the side, but without the Proud Boys standing back and standing by. Thank you, Proud Boys, for having stood by me. Also, thank you, Steve Bannon, Vladimir Putin, Kim Ill Dung, and Pepe the Stolen-Intellectual-Property Frog. Pepe, watch out for Miss Piggy, she and her “pre-nuptial contracts” will clean your clock, just like Melania is set to clean mine soon! But I digest.
So we can’t disrepute what the nasty courts have said, or there might be civil war. Sad! The courts aren’t very American these days! And if you don’t like what I just said? Well, I’m sorry that you feel that way!
So congratulations to Biden for having stolen the erections! This is America, so we must properly honor the decisions of the courts, in a dishonorable way! Biden can come and live with us in the White House, per the wishes of the courts. He can pour our covfefe for us, for Steve Bannon, Pepe the Frog, and I, and Jill can make sandwiches for us. We promise to call him POTUS, and her, First Lady! POTUS of covfefe, and First Lady of sandwiches, that is! Hey Biden! Get yer butt over here! Pepe needs some covfefe!
That setup will get us by for a little while! Meanwhile, we can schedule the NEW run-off erections, this time without any fraudulent so-called “Democratic” votes being allowed, and we can do this RIGHT the next time!
Meanwhile, congratulations to Joe Stalin-Biden, on being erected POTUS of pouring covfefe for Pepe!
Trump said: "I didn't quite make it, just a little bit short."
-- Trump, on 2020 election, 8/22/24
"He beat us by a whisker."
-- Trump, to Moms for Liberty, 8/30/24
"I lost by a whisker."
-- Trump, to podcaster Lex Fridman, 9/3/24
So... lying to the suckers? Dementia? Forgetfulness? Blank-out? Doublethink?
Yes Hank, you suffer from all those conditions.
So..."orange man bad"...
Orange Man bad?!? He BAD, all right! He SOOO BAD, He be GOOD! He be GREAT! He Make America Great Again!
We KNOW He can Make America Great Again, because, as a bad-ass businessman, He Made Himself and His Family Great Again! He Pussy Grabber in Chief!
See The Atlantic article https://feedreader.com/observe/theatlantic.com/politics%252Farchive%252F2016%252F10%252Fdonald-trump-scandals%252F474726%252F%253Futm_source%253Dfeed/+view
“The Many Scandals of Donald Trump: A Cheat Sheet” or this one…
https://reason.com/2019/09/02/republicans-choose-trumpism-over-property-rights-and-the-rule-of-law/
He pussy-grab His creditors in 6 bankruptcies, His illegal sub-human workers ripped off of pay on His building projects, and His “students” in His fake Get-Rich-like-Me realty schools, and so on. So, He has a GREAT record of ripping others off! So SURELY He can rip off other nations, other ethnic groups, etc., in trade wars and border wars, for the benefit of ALL of us!!!
All Hail to THE Pussy Grabber in Chief!!!
Most of all, HAIL the Chief, for having revoked karma! What comes around, will no longer go around!!! The Donald has figured out that all of the un-Americans are SOOO stupid, that we can pussy-grab them all day, every day, and they will NEVER think of pussy-grabbing us right back!
Orange Man Bad-Ass Pussy-Grabber all right!
We CAN grab all the pussy, all the time, and NONE will be smart enough to EVER grab our pussies right back!
These voters simply cannot or will not recognize the central illusion of politics… You can pussy-grab all of the people some of the time, and you can pussy-grab some of the people all of the time, but you cannot pussy-grab all of the people all of the time! Sooner or later, karma catches up, and the others will pussy-grab you right back!
These people wouldn't know a real fascist if one peed on their leg. In fact, most people throwing accusations of fascism are the real fascists. I've not had the pleasure of being accused of being a fascist but my response will be, "Yes, I know you are."
The guys censoring what we can see or hear, the ones who shut down church services in a power play, the ones who want to disarm us, the ones who do spy on and lock up their opposition on flimsy charges, the ones who want to ditch the constitution…
The problem isn't that Trump isn't thoughtful enough to be fascists, the problem is that Democrats as we saw during Covid, are.
Uh hilk... I'm blubber, you're glue? That's the intellectual register?
The guy with severe dementia who calls everyone "girl-bulliers" is mocking someone for a jejune retort.
You can't make this shit up, folks.
Amd he won’t engage in actual discussion. Just rants and raves, then hides like a little bitch.
As a fascist, please don't put Trump in our camp. He's not a fascist and that's a bad thing.
I believe we have now reached 'Peak Sullum'. 🙂
Sullum sounds like he is at the 'bargaining' stage of acceptance.
If'n we gracefully accept the TrumptatorShit, the Trumptator just MIGHT allow us to LIVE, maybe? And not pussy-grab us QUITE ass hard ass He pussy-Grabbed His Queen, Spermy Daniels?
Sullum sounds like he is at the ‘bargaining’ stage of acceptance.
+1 The problem, perpetually with TDS, is whether it's acceptance of Trump as a candidate or whether it's with the broader idea that people who don't, e.g., want to neuter children as policy actually have a recognizable interest, however self-motivated it may be, other than simply being Nazis.
My bet is it's the former.
REASON MAG PRAISES FASCISTS! Calls them "thoughtful". /Dems
[Adds 2 points to GDI score.]
GFY Sullum, you aren’t thoughtful enough to admit crime is indeed up
I tend to agree that Trump is not thoughtful enough to be a fascist. My concern is more that like the first Trump administration chaos will reign. Trump lacks the skills to be President and now more mentally diminished that chaos is likely to be worse. Some suggest that Vance will lock Trump in the closet with a TV and run the Presidency. That would be better but there is no guarantee and Trump bolstered by the likes of some of the people who support him would be bad.
You're worried about democrats burning down cities if Trump wins?
Trump lacks the skills to be President …
It shows clearly on his resume he did the job for 4 years.
Yes, and those four years showed he lacked the skills.
How?
Did you forget about all the broken norms and mean tweets?
Don’t forget his refusal to obey interdepartmental protocols.
Given the binary choice of the election, his opponent shat the bed during her audition. Trump did not.
Trump can’t even properly follow the rules when flipping burgers!
https://newrepublic.com/post/187379/donald-trump-roasted-mcdonalds-work
Trump Roasted for Failing to Even Fake Working at McDonald’s Right
The internet is having none of Donald Trump’s farce.
Uh oh. That scat talk got SQRLSY hungering for some turds.
You mean by not being a democrat?
Yeah, he didn’t wreck the country, like a Democrat would. So obviously that doesn’t work for you.
Your kind really hates this country.
Even if that's true, his main opponent also clearly lacks the skills to be president. So it's really not a distinguishing criterion. And at least with Trump he'd actually be the president. Who the fuck knows who would be in charge in a Harris admin?
And awful lot of criticism of Trump at this point can be answered with "OK, but where is the better alternative?"
Harris is the better alternative. You don't hire back the employee you fired.
Yes, we should go with the person that was rejected in the primaries.
The person whose resume, when seen by HR was immediately thrown in the gargbage.
The person no voting base has given a primary vote to.
Trump even added 10M votes in 2020. All garbage votes though.
Can you provide an example of HOW she is the better alternative?
Well its obvious! She will be more compliant and know her place is to obsequiously defer to her handlers in the deep state.
Biden spelled it out when he chose her: colored baitch.
Actually, sometimes you do. And it's a shitty analogy anyway. Nearly half the voters wanted to keep him on. This is an election, not a job application. If this were a regular hiring process, I'd be all for looking at some more resumes because the candidates we have aren't ideal. But that's not what this is.
Harris didn't pass the interview. You might remember she was slaughtered in the primary and the only reason - literally the only reason - she is VP right now is because she's half-black.
Like, that is, literally, the criteria that Biden admitted was driving his selection of VP.
And since then she's done . . . nothing. Accomplished . . . nothing.
There was no chaos in the first Trump administration.
Compare that to the first year of the Biden administration. CHAZ, BLM Summer of Love, etc.
So concentration camps or no concentration camps?
THEY AREN’T CONCENTRATION CAMPS!
/sarcasmic
Mostly peaceful concentration camps.
Strategic and reluctant concentration camps.
This election is proving to be a fascinating Rorschach test. On both sides you have politicians with experience as executives in the country. Which of the two you obsessively fear the most is basically your read of the Ink Blot.
But Sullum takes that even more. His entire thesis is that we shouldn't believe the Ink Blot- that in fact we should assume Trump will do more harm than he did while in office. As if there still won't be a massive administrative state aligned against him, ready to pounce the second he shows the most authoritarian tendency.
As Sullum notes, Trump speaks all over the place. He has basically promised the moon, and he isn't going to be able to do even a fraction of his rambling, often contradictory promises. The Rorschach test is whether you think his priority will be VENGEANCE, enacting his Nativist Policies, or embarking on reducing the Scope and Size of government. (He has planned all these and more.)
The real interesting part is that it will be very easy to paint reduction of the size and scope of government as vengeance, since (as you would expect) the people in government most antagonistic to him are the government workers he would eliminate.
Maybe not VENGEANCE, but I do think he should go after the low hanging fruit. Maybe look into the incredible timing of the pelosi investments and check out the friends of diddy. And Brandon.
And then see where it goes….
JSarcasmic
Yes, a billionaire real estate developer and former President is dumb as a rock. Got it, Sullum.
Being president is not an indicator of mental acuity (see current President). While Teump is often ignorant in many ways, assuming he must also be stupid certainly seems to be an important crutch for the chattering classes to hold themselves superior to him.
Being President isn't - but being a real-estate developer and fairly successful at business overall is.
Harris (and Biden before her) don't really have any accomplishments in government that aren't of the 'lock black people up, but harder' type.
It makes them feel better at night when they curl up with the circa 2020 edition of WaPo that endorsed Biden.
Why waste perfectly good birdcage liner though?
Certainly not as smart as a mid writer for a mid libertarian site who nobody willingly reads.
But a leftist hack like Sullum is moar smarter.
You know, I rember Trump as president, and while he did make face p as lying statements, I do not remember him doing much that authoritarian. The current administration, of which the current Democrat Party candidate is the junior member, tries to "creatively interpret" OSHA authority into a regulatory scheme to violate my freedom of choice over my body in order to coerce me (and everyone else) into taking a vaccine (which did not really work for the intended purpose in preventing the spread of the disease all that well), conscription my private employer into being the police and judge.
So just cool the your jets on griping about "authoritarianism" from Teump.
Dems and corporate media were literally outraged he wasn't authoritarian during covid and wouldn't force lockdowns.
Ah ha! So no concentration camps.
If any asylum seeker is rejected judicially and deported it is a concentration camp per sarc.
The voices in your head are telling you that I think people are concentration camps, and you believe it? Dude. Take some medication.
Lol. Want the link buddy?
Given your stupidity and constant blackout drunkenness, we’re far better qualified to say what you think than you are. Plus you’re a proven liar.
So far, so good.
I do not remember him doing much that authoritarian.
lol
Remember family separation and "kids in cages"? Yes yes Obama started it. But Trump turned it up to eleventy and deliberately used it as a tool of deterrence. What's more, his admin was so incompetent it lost track of many of the kids, while deporting the parents. So Trump's admin created orphans, either deliberately or via incompetence. I'd call that an authoritarian abuse of power. But I guess you don't remember that part because it didn't affect you.
Oh, let's also recall when he declared a fake 'national emergency' so that he could ignore the clearly stated will of Congress and divert funding from the military to build his stupid wall.
Oh, and all of the COVID nonsense in 2020 was under his watch. I think that was a little authoritarian, don't you think?
Yeah, "nothing authoritarian". Stop gaslighting.
Yeah, that pretty much all bullshit. ‘lol’. And really, even if kids were getting separated from their parents, that’s because they broke, the law sneaking over the border. But you will always lie like the shitweasel you are because you are an open borders neo Marxist globalist Sorosite groomer.
And the border IS an emergency because of filth like you. And what ‘COVID nonsense’ is he responsible for? That was almost exclusively you Democrat scum.
So just stop with your lies. No one believes you.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/3201957/reductio-ad-hitlerum-60-years-democrats-falsely-calling-republican-nominee-fascist/
To update a famous quote attributed to Benjamin Franklin: In this world, nothing is certain except death and taxes — and Democrats labeling the Republican presidential candidate a fascist for the last 60 years.
It’s been an integral part of the Democratic political playbook, utilized almost as much as calling the Republican nominee a racist. Yet, somehow, after each warning, the Third Reich has yet to materialize in the United States. This includes when former President Donald Trump was president from 2017-2021. Despite six decades’ worth of Democratic warnings of impending fascist doom failing to come true, it has never prevented the left-wing party from engaging in Reductio ad Hitlerum.
[a number of Republicans, Goldwater, Reagan, Ford, W, Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan... discussed how all were called Hitler or fascists]
It is pure, unadulterated, radical, extremist, left-wing propaganda. The only people who believe these Nazi and fascist comparisons are the massively brainwashed and indoctrinated Democrat voters and left-wing sycophants. No one should believe any of these attacks. After all, Democrats have a six-decade-long history of being proven wrong in comparing Republicans to fascists and Nazis.
And yet the jeffsarcs of the world fall for it every cycle.
The upside of the forthcoming civil war is that all the JeffSarcs will be dealt with, finally.
I tell you what, real fascists don't want anything to do with Trump.
Well yeah. They keep trying to put him in prison, take him off the ballot, shoot him...
Funny, those fascists, or Democrats as they self identify, could have had PA in the bag if not for their platform of "kill the Jews" interfering with the plan of using a a popular governor for VP. With all the censorship, political violence and the Jew hatred, it's getting difficult to tell the difference between a Nazi and a Democrat.
Bolton is not one of my favorite people, but the quote used as the title is right on target.
(Trump is still the lesser of two evils with respect to the major party candidates.)
"(Trump is still the lesser of two evils with respect to the major party candidates.)"
Hmmm.
Must be a complete fucking imbecile to write that regarding the best POTUS we've had for the last century.
FOAD, asshole.
You seem to be forgetting Reagan and perhaps the elder Bush.
Sevo, Trump failed on some critical things when president. He has almost no ability to judge character - hence hiring alligators to 'drain the swamp'. His staff and cabinet were embarrasingly bad.
Yeah, he did some decent work with deregulation and the 'stay in Mexico policy' but he wasn't then (and unless he's learned a fuck-ton in the last three years about his mistakes - and picking Vance as VP suggests he might have) 'the best president of the last century'.
Anyone who dismisses his vows of vengeance as meaningless bluster is asking voters to recklessly assume he does not mean what he says.
I believe those who say his vows of vengeance should be dismissed are liars who are itching for revenge but not honest enough to say it.
Besides, they're just playing "Heads I win, tails you lose" anyway.
If Trump says something shitty, they say ignore it and look at his record.
If there's something shitty on his record, they say ignore it and look at what he says.
Always both ways.
His vows of vengeance are:
Firing the deep state.
Investigating government abuses.
How frightening. To think you pretended to be against government abuses. Yet scream now going after bad actors is bad.
You really should take medication for those voices in your head.
I'm sorry. I guess you were never against government abuses. My bad.
Recall the sarc’s position on Covid mandates.
Whatever the voices in your head say. I'm not going to argue with them.
Sarc never tells people what they are thinking.
I already said my bad. You’re for government abuses against your enemies.
It is bad Trump said he would investigate them for those abuses. I get it.
Yes, yes, you've explained what the voices are telling you several times now. Repeating it doesn't make it less stupid.
You seem to be stuck on retard again. Can you ask someone to smack your geas for a reset? You'll have plenty of volunteers.
Sarc, you’re the one that is mentally defective. You likely always were. But your severe lifelong alcoholism has made you even more stupid and unbalanced.
So, effectively, what you are concerned about is Trump reversing the vows of vengeance the Democrats have been carrying out against Trump and his supporters over the past four years?
You look at what is considered the actual underlying crime the felonies Trump was convicted of, it was defeating Hillary Clinton in 2016.
All that we are talking about is changing the target of vengeance, and why should I care about Democrats getting a taste of their own medicine?
Using the power of the state to get revenge was evil and despicable when Democrats did it, but when Trump promises to do it it’s not just ok but something to applaud, because Democrats did it first. Got it.
I am not saying it should applauded. The Democrat's efforts to rain vengeance on Trump and MAGA have been applauded. Since we are going to have a regime seeking vengeance against its enemies either way, why should I care if Democrats are the new targets?
What you’re really saying is it is fine democrats abused the state, but any investigation into the abuse is also wrong.
So don’t hold government abuse by democrats accountable. Got it.
Does this principle apply to looking into abuse by the police? Or just democrats in government?
No, that’s what the voices in your head are saying, so you should forward your questions to them.
Idiot homeless weasel. Why don’t you just throw in “binary” somewhere in your rankings.
He can also drunkenly rave that he has ‘ascertained ‘ that we are all gaslighting his strawman.
(Seriously, no one has licked up on the ‘ascertain’ reference yet?)
Sure the kidnapper took the child and held them without their permission. It'd be wrong --- nay, immoral!! --- to do the same to the kidnapper by jailing him.
The kidnapper took the child and held them without permission. That means it's ok to take the kidnapper's children and hold them without permission.
Trump said he would investigate them FOR THEIR VIOLATIONS OF LAW AND ABUSE OF STATE.
He did not say he would create the novel criminal theories you support.
It's probably a good idea to take away a kidnapper's children. Especially when sending the kidnapper to prison.
Turnabout is fair play.
Not saying it's ethical or right. but it is fair.
""Using the power of the state to get revenge was evil and despicable when Democrats did it,""
Assuming you agree the democrats did it. What do you think the remedy should be? Should the democrats that did be held accountable? Absence of accountability do we just dismiss it?
The correct headline for this (and hundreds of his other anti Trump rants since 2016) is:
Sullum is not thoughtful enough to be a political journalist
While Sullum has done excellent work exposing this nation's most outrageous and disastrous drug policies, he (like most other media propagandists) suffers from the most rampant mental illness in America (aka Trump Derangement Syndrome).
Its time to Make America Great Again.
>>Sullum is not thoughtful enough to be a political journalist
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I wish these commentators would define what exactly they mean by "Fascist". And also explain how democrats are any less fascist.
Or better yet, stop using the name of a political movement from a very different time and place that really doesn't apply very well to US politics.
If we must talk about fascism, then people need to be reminded that the original progressive movement openly admired fascism and FDR has been by far our most fascist president.
Crude illiterate liars unaware of how the Silver Shirts, Klan, Bund, and all manner of Christian National Socialist bigots hated FDR for his party having copied the Liberal Party prohibition repeal plank and gotten rid of 18A, Volstead and the Wesley Livsey Jones 5&10 felony beer rider are comical! Izzis the best the skipping, exploding Tesla Muskovite can buy with his billions?
He is not talking about factional squabbles over support He is talking about the nature of the policies the New Dealers implemented, which were quite similar to Italian Fascist policies Mussolini implemented by the early '30s.
That is all totally irrelevant to my point. FDR's domestic economic policies were closely akin to the governing philosophy of Mussolini.
The 1920 onset of Prohibition (after overriding Woodrow's veto) multiplied communist party membership threefold. By the time The Jones Law, Hoover and Anslinger were through wrecking the economy via dry confiscations, fines, prisons--and making Hitler popular in Germany, the momentum had built. Communist party membership shot up 700%, soaking the liberal Roosevelt Administration with reprisal pushback against earlier mystical coercion. Hateful Fascists are what make Communism popular.
Funding from the USSR had a lot to do with that; You'll recall that the CPUSA imploded when with the fall of the USSR, their foreign funding was cut off. They'd been heavily subsidized all along, they had very little domestic support without the subsidy to keep them going.
Hank was very sad to see his comrades fall apart like that.
Sullum isn't thoughtful enough to be other than a TDS-addled steaming pile of shit.
Fuck off and die, Sullum.
"the U.S. Supreme Court has endorsed a broad version of presidential immunity from criminal liability for "official acts.""
The only way to limit criminal behavior by the President while in office is to return to the Constitutional limits on government authority broadly and reestablish the Constitutional checks and balances on the Executive branch by the legislative and judicial branches. If, for example, the Donald issues an Executive Order in retribution to his many enemies, he does not need to be held criminally liable, all it takes is for a Court to strike down his XO immediately every time he issues one. And if his behavior becomes egregious enough, Congress should remove him from office.
Alt title.
Trump is too Dumb to be Literally Hitler.
Dumb? Then Harris in a persistent vegetative state in comparison.
The reason people are afraid of Trump is because they don't really believe in democracy. They want someone who will make the laws they want when Congress says no. They want the presidency to call the shots, not Congress. By believing the president should have this power, they are afraid how Trump will use it.
I had a conversation with someone claiming they supported democracy but when I asked about the use of EOs, the reply was but Congress wasn't doing their job. Doing their job meant pass the laws he wanted passed.
Oh, no, a demagogue! He might actually give the voters what they want!
If its something I want then the guy is a 'dangerous populist'.
When its something you want then the guy is 'just doing what Congress won't'.
Why would we need to elect representatives if we can just elect a king?
A fun experiment: ask looters what laws they want their candidate to REPEAL.
Sullum could use a refresher on Fascism. After the deal with the Pope, Mussolini ordered mandatory religious catechism classes in Italian school. The 1920 Hitler platform AND 1925 Mein Kampf both drip Christian homilies and Bible quotes: "Almighty God, bless our arms when the hour comes. Be just, as Thou hast always been just. Judge now if we deserve our freedom. Lord, bless our struggle." Hitler speeches sold on Amazon likewise ooze Lutheran jew-baiting while heaping praise on God and "The Nazarene." Republican gangs like Pelley's Silver Shirts and the Klan (which supported Bert Hoover in 1928) flailed against the Roosevelt Administration lifting a finger as Lutheran racial ideology mandated Jewish extermination camps. Mixed-economy religious mysticism is the definition of fascism that best fits the facts, and it holds for Spain's Caudillo of God and today's Army Of God. Compare: https://libertariantranslator.wordpress.com/2022/12/03/hitlers-christianity-from-nobeliefs-com/
Just because he wrapped up occult ideas in traditional values didn't make Hitler Catholic, or Lutheran.
I disagree, After all, the N.Y.Times as well as CNN, MSNBC and other outlets labeled Trump a Nazi and the rally at MSG was literally a Nazi rally! Whoopie said it was a "Nazi Rally" So it must be true.
You could practically hear the goose stepping, almost envision the thousands of arms raised in the Nazi salute, screaming "heil Trump"!
Oh, the horrors.....the martial music being played, thousands of torches lighting the way into the rally and huge banners with swastikas.
Jake Yapper had a melt down, Whoppie nearly exploded and the current president expressed his intellectual opinion about Trump supporters./s
And in other news......
But one of the invited entertainers called 3 million people “garbage.”
Whereupon Kamala Harris herself called 100 million people “garbage.”
He was cheated, prosecuted, betrayed, raided, fined, vilified, excoriated, SHOT, and is still facing potential bankruptcy.
He may be primarily motivated for reasons you dont like or cant fathom but self interest aint it.
People don't realize, if they can do all that to Trump, they will do it to anyone. You or I will be next on their list.
>>The Republican presidential candidate’s views do not reflect any unifying principle other than self-interest.
this is a laughably incorrect take. look out a fucking window.
How is it in his self-interest to set himself up as a target for persecution via lawfare and worse, from deranged Act Blue donors?
Seems like he could have made more money by not alienating half the public against him and his businesses, selling books and pitching TV shows. Maybe he has more altruistic motivations, to try to improve the country (as he sees it)?
>any unifying principle other than self-interest
Sounds like a libertarian to me. So why are lubbertarians meaningful and morally pure, while Trump is incoherent? All Kelly and Milley have done is demonstrate that they don't know what fascism is. But hey, look at those medals on Milley! That's a lot of medals for a REMF he-row!
Fact-everyone who calls Trump and his fans fascists have never met or been ruled by an actual fascist. You know, where the police will randomly pull you off the street and beat/torture you for looking like the wrong type.
He's not a real facist. Just an old, narcissistic guy with authoritarian impulses.
"The rules in the latter case include not just abiding by election results but also recognizing the limits that the Constitution imposes on presidential authority. "
You do realize that that latter sweeps up every President, and every major party nominee for President, in my entire lifetime, and certainly yours, right? The last President who actually recognized the limits that the Constitution imposes on presidential authority predated FDR.
"abiding by election results" is just another way of saying "it was stolen fair and square"
You just have to be full-on retarded...
"De-Regulation and Tax-Cuts are so Fascist!!!", screams the fascist leftard.
"He hollowed out our Commie-Institutions!!!!", screams the fascist leftard.
The amount of cognitive dissonance the left packs is astonishing.
Team never trump – “Trump not a fascist. He’s not thoughtful enough to be a fascist.”
Ah, so he’s not a fascist. OK I’ll take your word for it. To imply that being able to write normal sounding email and deliver coherent speeches can be used as evidence of fascism is a bit strange, but I’ll overlook it.
Is telling the public that senile dear leader is just fine and dandy and threatening those who see otherwise something you expect from fascist regimes? Hmmm, maybe. At any rate I’ll vote for a side that’s not trying to get us to WW3 and appeasing actual fascists. Thanks.
It bears repeating
Ladies, your ballot is not a valentine. Try to think rationally please.
real ladies don't vote, democracy is a illness.
Democrats are an illness because they think voting is for UN-Constitutional (ILLEGAL) 'armed-theft' Al'Capone gangs who will fill their personal accounts from all those 'icky' people.
They won't be voting for LAWFUL representation that will uphold the Supreme Law of the Land (i.e. ensure Liberty and Justice for all).
Reading comprehension fail. Democracy, not democrats, is the illness. Try again.
Democracy only works if you vote the right way, got it.
Laws don’t work when you elect Al’Capone to pick and chose which laws he wants to follow in complete contrast to his sworn oath of office. You just have a lawless dictator.
Yes; Voting the right way is important.
This whole conversation is ridiculous. As supposed Libertarians, you certainly understand acting in one's self-interest is fundamental and is hardly new to the political class. Every president since Teddy Roosevelt has trampled on the Constitution and prior norms with impunity. Nobody called them Fascists (unless of course, they happened to be Republicans). You people want it both ways. When he says something sensible, he's a liar. When he says something outrageous, he's Moses coming down the mountain with the Ten Commandments. Listening to all these military men violating the confidence of a superior is what is really disgusting in the whole mess. Honestly, this kind of crap has turned me into a Trump defender, even though I'm not a supporter.
The incoherence of Trump's thinking is reflected in the incoherence of his speech,
On the bright side, when he starts heading into senility, no one will guess.
Sure we can. If he starts to confuse the Mexican president with the Egyptian president and does things like that on a regular basis, then he's probably senile.
"Queer for Palestine" is an incoherent concept. But the lunatics who believe that are usually mentally capable of articulating it. Senility and stupidity aren't the same things.
The only “fascists” are the ones who have now authorized the US military to kill its own citizens on US soil, mandated they inject toxic poison in order to function in society, want to repeal the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th, and 10th Amendments (what’s left of them), and persecute their political enemies using bizarre legal theories, biased juries, and kangaroo courts.
I don’t think Trump would do any of that (given that he ALREADY had four years to do so and… didn’t), but even if he DID do it against the deranged leftist communist traitor scum who have spent the last four years turning America into a shithole, I don’t think I could be bothered to care. I’d probably just shrug and say that they’re finally getting what they fucking deserve.
This ^ is spot on!
For supposed "reporters" not to see and report on this every day is an example of how phony they have become. It's truly an abomination.
'mandated they inject toxic poison'.
I hope you love RFK Jr. when he is charge of all health policy. Our kids can delight in measles, and polio again. We can all give our kids raw milk again, eat un-inspected meat and get brain worms. I'm looking forward to the freedom to be sicker. Only thing, is Medicare will get more expensive faster. Well, we should get rid of Medicare anyway. Those old geezers are scamming our money by living too long.
Jacob Sullum would be a pedophile if not for his ED.