Texas and Florida Say the First Amendment Must Be Sacrificed to Save It
Supreme Court arguments about two social media laws highlight a dangerous conflation of state and private action.

A social media platform is like a telegraph, Texas Solicitor General Aaron Nielson told the Supreme Court on Monday, defending his state's restrictions on content moderation by Facebook, X (formerly Twitter), and YouTube. Former U.S. Solicitor General Paul Clement, speaking on behalf of the tech trade group NetChoice, rejected that comparison, saying a social media platform is more like a newspaper.
Neither of those analogies is entirely satisfying. But Clement's has the advantage of recognizing that Facebook et al., unlike "dumb pipes" that simply transmit messages, unavoidably curate a vast amount of content, exercising the sort of editorial discretion that the Supreme Court has said is protected by the First Amendment.
Most of the justices seemed to recognize that point. In response to concerns that content moderation favors certain viewpoints over others, Chief Justice John Roberts noted, Florida, like Texas, decided that the solution is "exercising the power of the state" over those decisions.
Florida Solicitor General Henry Whitaker, who was defending his state's social media law, had argued that it served "an important First Amendment interest" by "ensuring the free dissemination of ideas." But "since we're talking about the First Amendment," Roberts wondered "whether our first concern should be with the state regulating what we have called 'the modern public square.'"
The Florida law at issue in Moody v. NetChoice requires social media platforms to host speech by any "candidate for office," even when it flagrantly violates their content rules. The law also says Facebook et al. may not limit the visibility of material "by or about" a political candidate and may not "censor, deplatform, or shadow ban a journalistic enterprise based on the content of its publication or broadcast."
The Texas law challenged in NetChoice v. Paxton is similar but in some ways broader, saying social media platforms may not "censor" speech based on "viewpoint." It defines censorship to include not just the deletion of posts and banishment of users but also any steps that make user-generated content less visible, accessible, or lucrative.
Public statements by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and Texas Gov. Greg Abbott made it clear that both laws were aimed at correcting a perceived bias against conservative speech. As they see it, Facebook et al. are using their influence to promote a progressive agenda.
Whitaker nevertheless insisted that content moderation decisions do not communicate any particular message. When platforms enforce their terms of service, he said, they are engaging in "conduct, not speech."
Yet that conduct, like the constitutionally protected decisions of newspapers and parade sponsors, reflects value judgments about which sorts of speech are beyond the pale, which is precisely why DeSantis and Abbott object to it. If platforms are legally barred from discriminating based on "content" or "viewpoint," they cannot exercise those judgments.
Even DeSantis and Abbott might not like the results. If the Texas law takes effect, Clement warned, his clients would be forced either to decree that users must avoid certain subjects altogether or to treat all viewpoints the same, no matter how abhorrent they might be to users and advertisers.
If platforms allowed pro-Jewish speech, for instance, they would have to give anti-Semitism equal prominence. They would be required to take a neutral stance regarding suicide prevention vs. suicide promotion, speech condemning terrorism vs. speech glorifying it, and posts encouraging vs. discouraging dangerous conduct such as bulimia and the "Tide Pod Challenge."
That is probably not a situation that most users would welcome, which is why platforms established content rules to begin with. While people may reasonably object to the specifics of those rules or the way they are enforced, those complaints do not justify using state power to impose different policies.
Given the choices available to people who do not like a particular platform's rules, equating those rules with government censorship is "a category mistake," as Clement observed. Based on that mistake, politicians are perversely arguing that the First Amendment must be sacrificed in order to save it.
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Unfortunately, this ignores the fact that platforms censor on behalf of the government, in violation of their terms of service.
The real injustice, the core problem, is that the American legal system is far too full of slow and expensive ritual to make it practical for users to enforce the terms of service against the platforms which violate them, sometimes of their own will, sometimes at the behest of governments.
The Texas and Florida laws suck, they do violate the property rights of the platforms. But everything government does violates human rights, including the right to control your own property, and the purpose of those two laws was to counteract some of the other ways the Feds violate those rights and the way the ritualistic legal system protects Big Tech in abusing their customers.
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It is even more insidious than that, especially when invoking the ToS. The ToS is treated as a ironclad contract but 230 grants these firms contract defenses not allowed for contracts in other industries. From fatigue terns to changes in terms one sided while also effecting or acting on posts prior to the change of terms. These contracts aren't allowed for other entities.
The YouTube demonstration is an example. They advertised and gained content producers on the idea of ad share and free speech. They change terms after the fact and give strikes to channels for content prior to TOS changes. Many times these producets paid money to YouTube for promotion. Post demonstration YouTube still makes money on ads and advertising for the content, they just now don't share the revenue due to again, changes on the contract made on one side. This is all protected under the guise of 230 and free speech.
Thanks for fleshing it out. The US's "free speech" is freer than most countries, but by any objective look, it could be a lot freer. But that would require government stepping out of the way and a legal system which didn't favor politicians and cronies.
Class action lawsuits are usually just big money for lawyers. But this seems like the sort of situation they were made for.
It would take way too long. They cancel your account and you have to wait years for a court decision? Useless. Even small claims court is too slow for a business keeping contact with their customers.
Disputes like this should be settled in a day or two. Any stalling indicates they took their action without justification at the time and are fishing for an after-the-fact excuse. Loser pays is also necessary.
Sure, but I mean at this point, when many people have already been harmed that way.
I agree that reforms are needed so that people without a lot of resources have some chance of effectively enforcing contracts against big media companies like that.
Users agreed to terms of service that:
Explicitly give the company the right to suspend an account at any time for any or no reason.
Explicitly give the company the right to change their TOS at any time for any or no reason.
I contend that even without section 230 you’d lose any lawsuit without banning these standard terms of service.
So next you need a law to ban these terms of service. Do we need big brother to protect us from agreeing with contracts?
They advertise connectivity. They fail to provide connectivity. Why is that not fraud? Because the judicial system is rigged in their favor.
Because they explicitly state something like "we reserve the right to suspend an account at any time for any or no reason" and "we reserve the right to change the TOS at any time for any or no reason," and the user clicks "agree."
Why do they even bother having terms of service that say anything but "we can do whatever we want and you have no recourse"? With the clauses you mention, the rest of the TOS is effectively meaningless.
IDK. A better question for a lawyer, but they’re there. I think the rest of the TOS are useless legally but may be more of a general guideline for the .000001% that read the TOS before clicking agree.
X TOS: The Services may change from time to time, and we may limit or terminate availability of the Services or particular features to you or other users at any time.
Youtube TOS: If any of your Content (1) is in breach of this Agreement or (2) may cause harm to YouTube, our users, or third parties, we reserve the right to remove or take down some or all of such Content in our discretion….YouTube reserves the right to suspend or terminate your Google account or your access to all or part of the Service if…(c) we reasonably believe that there has been conduct that creates (or could create) liability or harm to any user, other third party, YouTube or our Affiliates.
Implied in every contract is the obligation of good faith and fair dealing, something long recognized by the courts and codified by various state legislatures. The obligations prohibit a party to a contract from abusing their discretion. The examples JesseAZ gave above arguably constitute abuses of the platforms' otherwise wide discretion in their ToS.
Thanks. That's good information. I think that implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing generally doesn't overrule anything that is explicitly stated and agreed to in a contract though, right?
Don't bother them with trifles! Their petty revenge will only be sated with cold hard cash.
So your excuse for expanding the power and scope of government is they did it first.
SCOTUS has ruled that simply owning property doesn’t empower anyone to violate inalienable rights.
“ The more an owner, for his advantage, opens up his property for use by the public in general, the more do his rights become circumscribed by the statutory and constitutional rights of those who use it.”
Marsh v State of Alabama 1946
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/326/501
The only speech that causes harm is lying. It coerces people to act in the liars interest instead of their own.
All rights are limited by the moral and ethical boundaries of justice.
Criminals are prohibited from bearing arms. Killing is legal in self defence. Lying is already criminalized with perjury and fraud.
Nobody is opposing these boundaries. Lying simply needs to be criminalized everywhere.
In order for social media websites to claim “publisher status”, they would have to demonstrate that every comment is intended to increase the bottom line of the website.
Presumably this would require contracts with and paying every commenter a fair price for each and every comment.
Otherwise they are merely town squares receiving income from allowing the public to comment freely as guaranteed by the constitution.
I wonder how much they already owe us?
It's amazing how you manage to find something even dumber than your Nazi bullshit to go on about.
"In order for social media websites to claim “publisher status”, they would have to demonstrate that every comment is intended to increase the bottom line of the website."
The entire business model of a "social media" site is to collect both targeting data, and as large an "audience" as possible for targeting advertisement.
The rates they charge for advertisement posts are based on "engagement" (post/comment/"like" counts), and which kinds of posts particular users like/comment on are used to determine what kinds of ads to target to each user.
If that's not evidence that every post/comment on an ad-supported platform, or one which is run by a company which sells online advertisement as a primary revenue stream (at one point 96% of all online ads were sold by either Google or Facebook), then I'm guessing this is another topic on which you're pre-comitted to ignoring fundamental facts which contradict your chosen conclusion.
"All rights are limited by the moral and ethical boundaries of justice."
Justice is increasingly becoming a subjectively defined term. The US Population is increasingly split between those who believe equal opportunity constitutes justice, and those who believe that there can only be justice when there are equal outcomes and that a truly "level playing field" is provably "biased" unless everyone pursues the same kinds of results in equal proportion.
"Lying is already criminalized with perjury and fraud.
Nobody is opposing these boundaries. Lying simply needs to be criminalized everywhere."
Perjury is criminalized because it consists of lying in a specific context by a person who has consented to be bound by that penalty. Fraud is criminal because of provable damages it causes, and in most cases such charges can't be brought if there's no aggrieved party .
There are many lies which cause no meaningful harm because they're on a small or insignificant scope (telling a stranger you liked their book despite never having read it, for example). Others do no harm because they're not credible enough to be believed such as flat earthers.
Most lies aren't inherently coercive because there's nothing compelling anyone hearing it to believe the false claim, or from disputing it directly with contrary evidence.
If any assertion (no matter how lacking in credibility) had to be believed, and acted upon by those exposed to it, then there'd be more than one holocaust denier posting on these boards after the number of times such an assertion (along with a litany of alleged "proof") has been put forth around here. Your very existence is all of the proof necessary to disprove your central premise.
How do you distinguish Facebook from verizon?
After all, by NetChoice’s argument, verizon has a First Amendment right to block people who use their communications infrastructure to spread Communist ideas.
And what about telephone companies at the height of the Civil Rights movement? Again, common carriage laws were already in effect, so I doubt any of them denied service to civil rights activists because of their message. But their arguments to the Supreme Court implies that these telephone companies had the First Amendment right to cut off telephone services to those who would use their telephone service to spread ideas about racial equality.
In a Supreme Court session, Texas Solicitor General Aaron Nielson likened social media platforms to telegraphs, defending the state's content moderation restrictions. Former U.S. Solicitor General Paul Clement, representing NetChoice, countered, comparing these platforms to newspapers, recognizing their editorial discretion. This debate hinges on whether social media acts as neutral conduits or editorial entities protected by the First Amendment. Chief Justice John Roberts noted that states like Texas and Florida address content moderation concerns by leaning towards exerting state power over these decisions, underscoring the challenge of defining social media's role in the legal landscape.
If netchoice is arguing they are utilizing editorial or publisher discretion, many of their 230 protections fall away.
That's the thing, or should be - either your site content is consumer-driven, in which case you receive very broad S230 protections as a common carrier, but are allowed very narrow editorial control. Or, your site is moderated per company direction, in which case you receive very broad discretion over what is allowed or promoted, but very little S230 protection.
There isn't room for a situation where you get both high levels of control and ALSO broad protections. But that seems to be what they are always asking for.
https://www.thefire.org/news/why-repealing-or-weakening-section-230-very-bad-idea
“Section 230 protects platforms, not publishers. Social media companies that engage in extensive content moderation are acting as publishers and don’t find shelter under Section 230.”
This claim is a close cousin of the “neutrality” objection. It’s akin to saying platforms lose Section 230 protection for doing the very thing Section 230 protects. As explained, the law’s purpose is to immunize platforms from liability for users’ speech while also protecting their right to do as much or as little content moderation as they wish. When determining if Section 230 applies, the relevant question isn’t whether a platform is acting as a “platform” or “publisher.” It’s whether somebody other than the online service created the content in question and whether anything done to it by the service created the grounds for liability to apply.
See, that's an argument, but I completely disagree with it.
Don't you think that there's a big difference between what Reason posts as an article on this site, and what you or I post in the comments section?
But some of the articles are written by 3rd parties who are not directly employed by Reason. And yet, when they 'publish' those, they are exerting some sort of editorial control over the content. As opposed to the relatively unmoderated comments section. I don't think that they should be responsible for anything posted in the comments section, but I do think that they should be called to task for publishing some socialist manifesto by Bernie Sanders or some squad member as an 'article'.
When an otherwise private social media company or other 'content provider' makes the choice to heavily moderate, viewpoint discriminate, only publish 'approved' comments, and other similar tactics, they take on a level of ownership for the content on their site that a place like Reason does not (in the comment section anyway).
I do think that they should be called to task for publishing some socialist manifesto by Bernie Sanders or some squad member as an ‘article’.
Not sure what you mean by "called to task." You think they should be punished in some way? Dude, they're journalists. If they publish something like that it would be because it's in the news, and so they can say their own thing about it. Being "called to task" in this context implies some sort of legal consequence, which goes contrary to the principles of free speech.
>>As opposed to the relatively unmoderated comments section.
free Diane(Paul.)!
Slight disagreement with your first paragraph in defense of your conclusion overall notion: S230 is a ruptured appendix of legislation that should be removed. Even inasmuch as you include it it’s a redundant and divisive shoehorn by which Congress gets to ignore the tent poles and canvas that have already been erected while sticking its nose in the tent of free speech.
That is, there are a number of issues a play involving the 1A, slander/libel, 3rd Party, and Title II. Neither the 1A nor Title II require S230 to apply and vice versa. S230 specifically obfuscates them in a congressionally-favorable manner. Saying “S230 protections as a common carrier” in the argument in which you assert it is akin to saying, “There are apples and there are oranges and if your tree is growing under certain growing conditions it should apple protections as an orange.”
TL, DR - “S230 protections as a common carrier” = "appendix protections as a lower intestine"
"Yet that conduct, like the constitutionally protected decisions of newspapers and parade sponsors, reflects value judgments about which sorts of speech are beyond the pale, which is precisely why DeSantis and Abbott object to it."
Which is effectively arguing against a culture of free exchange of ideas and for a culture of strict ideological conformity and homogenization. A culture where certain debates cannot be had, because the forums are controlled by one side that deems the arguments of the other side beyond the pale. The rules governing what is out of bounds are non-transparent, arbitrary, and in many cases, are not applied evenly. What we have seen are not "flagrant" violations of TOS, as the platforms all too often do not even tell the user being censored how what they did violated the TOS. This culture has been recently been doing the bidding of a faction within the federal government to suppress information that is demonstrably true. Given what has been happening since October, Sullum using anti-Semitism as an obvious thing that cannot be allowed is just no longer true. What is deemed unacceptable is largely dependent on not what is being said, but who is saying it.
Social Media's ideological collusion has been strangling the reality of a free speech culture before our eyes, and to defend this murder by invoking free speech is a sick joke.
There's a simple fix to be had: Sponsor your own speech, pay for your own speech. When you PAY nothing, you OWN nothing! I've never joined FacePoooo, and so they don't own ME or owe me, or own ANY of my so-called "rights" to THEIR property, either!
I pay (PAY! With MY money! I OWN!) for my own web site at Go-Daddy. I say some VERY sarcastic and un-politically-correct, intolerant things about cults like Scientology there (and Government Almighty as well). I am QUITE sure that a LOT of “tolerant” liberal-type folks at Google etc. would NOT be happy with the types of things I wrote! Yet, if you do a search-string “Scienfoology”, Google will take you STRAIGHT to MY web site, a top hit! #2!
https://www.google.com/search?q=scienfoology&nfpr=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjPzZqf0dXsAhUCT6wKHez9DNwQvgUoAXoECDEQKg&biw=1920&bih=941
It continues to amuse me that the side promoting political censorship are the ones claiming they are for free speech. Even given the evidence of government influencing these censorship decisions, they persist. Meanwhike they ignore these favored entities are given liability protections extended beyond censorship into contract disputes where a ToS can change and posts made prior to that change can be consumed by the change to censor someone's past posts.
The argument that algorithms and censorship is free speech is one of the funnier ironies. The fact they want to be declared publishers for this scheme while not being declared publishers for 230 protections is the cherry on top.
From the always-there top-intro to the comments at Reason.com:
“We reserve the right to delete any comment for any reason at any time.”
Yet JesseSPAZ (and other enemies of freedom of speech, and enemies of Section 230) will find invisible or implied contractual rights! After JesseSPAZ reads (or can read if JesseSPAZ will bother to do so) this “contract”, for JesseSPAZ’s right to post comments FOR FREE, JesseSPAZ will go and run crying to Government Almighty to tear down Section 230, and invent and insert NEW clauses, infringing on the property rights of Reason.com! If JesseSPAZ (or others, to include “false flag” leftists) post SO MUCH deeply offensive racist CRAP, for example, that advertisers will stop buying advertisements on Reason.com? Or buyers of Reason Magazine BOYCOTT the magazine? JesseSPAZ will STILL want to go running and crying to Government Almighty to FORCE Reason.com to post the crap-writings of JesseSPAZ!!!
Some gratitude, JesseSPAZ, for what Reason.com does for you for FREE!!! When a neighbor lends you tools (for FREE), which you never return, or return broken… And the neighbor, in turn, STOPS lending you tools, do you find “invisible contractual clauses”, and run crying to Government Almighty to FORCE your neighbor to lend you MORE tools? What are the limits to your greed and evil, to your unquenchable thirst, JesseSPAZ?
Not to mention that, between “Joe Biden’s economic (and immigration, and foreign affairs) policies are so unpopular that we have to invent a term to explain how it’s the voter’s fault for not spending money.” and the 1-2 punch of “Our free speech is of unparalleled importance, why don’t more than 30% of Americans agree?” and “FL and TX ban, free speech… again.” I’m beginning to think it’s cognitive dissonance week here at Reason.
My main hesitation about concluding that it’s cognitive dissonance week here at Reason being the difficulty in distinguishing it from most any other week for the last 8-10 yrs.
I don’t find political opportunism and expedience to be all the amusing. Florida and Texas are not pushing back against the First Amendment because of any legally or philosophically coherent premise or fundamental governance theory. Having learned the tactic from the “progressives” they are now using the tactic AGAINST the progressives and, at least temporarily, beating the progressives at their own game. Since “modified tit-for-tat” is a legitimate strategy within the broader “game theory” context they now find themselves without a fall-back position. Sputtering incoherently in rage is all they got now. The fact that neither the “conservatives” nor the “progressives” can win this game and The People are the ultimate losers here is irrelevant to the LARP perps.
IOW right-wing posters think social media companies are biased against conservatives, and so must be regulated, because apparently conservatives are too stupid and impoverished to set up their own social media companies. If that means violating both 1A and free market principles, so be it, because social media BAAAD.
Should social media companies have rolled over for the government? No. But as I noted in an earlier thread, free speech is not a privilege to be earned by good behaviour.
Democrats did it first, so that makes it ok.
That would seem to be part of their position. Another part, of course, is that regardless of whether social media genuinely is biased against conservatives, they don't genuinely believe in freedom of speech anyway and are simply taking advantage of an opportunity to restrict it.
It's all about winning. Not about being right or wrong. If they think stifling speech will give them a political advantage, then that's what they're going to do.
No, it doesn't make it okay, but it does undercut any argument they might want to make to convince the Supreme Court of their moral high ground.
"Moral high ground" is irrelevant because this is a constitutional issue, not a moral one.
They had no choice in the matter. When the full force of the bureaucracy leans on you, you buckle. Should the government have leaned on them? No. The only question here is how to force the government - both the Feds and, temporarily, Texas and Florida - from using government power to achieve political and social ends.
From what I've seen, a lot seemed pretty happy, if not enthusiastic, to cooperate with government censorship programs.
""saying a social media platform is more like a newspaper.""
That's part of the problem. Too many people get their news from social media.
I just wouldn’t ever post anything in favor of censors idk …
There is no First Amendment right to shut people up.
Look at the whiny right wong snowflakes! Right wingers are the most popular accounts on every social media platform...how ironic,
This is one of those black-tape over the engine light fix-it jobs.
UR not going to fix the Nazi's by Nazi methods. The Democratic Congressmen who are doing this censorship (well known with 100% viable evidence) should be impeached right away.
LOL! Jacob is definitely a leftist hack. He ignores the Obama and Biden era use of social media companies to censor people during the pandemic and during the elections under the guise of "mis-information." But when you try to protect kids from pornography, all of the sudden Jacob jumps off the sideline.
"those complaints do not justify using state power to impose different policies."
Sullum is smarter than he realizes because he just made the argument in favor of forced content neutrality.
The problem with civil rights in America today is that they exist only on paper. Most people do not understand or believe in the spirit of those laws. This is why half the country is trying to ban guns in any way they can even though "shall not be infringed" cannot be written any clearer than it already was.
We are not talking about something like C-16 in Canada where the government is compelling speech. Texas and Florida are compelling their residents to comply with 1A. They aren't saying "say something you disagree with." They're saying "stop preventing people from saying something you disagree with."
You are unwittingly making an anarchist argument that use of government force to protect liberty is tyranny. By your logic, all laws are un-libertarian because you have to use state power to jail criminals.
If the people do not respect the law, they will be compelled to respect it. Otherwise there is no point in the law. This is not an issue of both sides. There is no moral equivalence between censoring speech and banning censorship.
Gov-Guns is indeed an equivalent implementation (tool) between censoring speech and banning censorship and a 'Gun' used to force speech is far closer "morally" to a 'Gun' used to censor speech than you'd like to entertain.
Congress shall make no law ... abridging the *freedom* of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Forced speech isn't *freedom*.
"There is no moral equivalence between censoring speech and banning censorship."
Let me FIX that for you!
There is no moral equivalence between Marxist Government Almighty control of MY web site, and banning censorship, and actual RESPECT for MY private property.
Build or pay for your own web site, like I do at Go-Daddy!
http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Do_Gooders_Bad/
No, I will NOT post your Marxist shit on MY web site!!! Now you want to sic your Marxist Government Almighty on me, and SUE me?
Sullum exposes his long-term TDS, substituting Abbot and DeSantis for Trump, in arguing that a law that prohibits viewpoint censorship by social media companies (when a government employee requests it, with carrots and sticks attached), is sacrificing the first amendment. Sullum does his best to argue a law prohibiting censorship of viewpoints by social media firms is sacrificing the first amendment, rather than protecting it, but it's too contradictory.
Sullum would do better to find the libertarian policy for social media censorship and explain why it is better. If a social media company wants to censor (say for the children, keep out the porn and salty language) then they curate all posts and advertise their child safe site, at which point they become a publisher and subject to defamation lawsuits.
What’s wrong with allowing all posts on a social media platform, and if it turns out to be illegal speech then the government can obtain a conviction for the poster and have the post removed? That’s the libertarian policy solution, which still allows social media firms to choose to curate all their posts if they want, or allow the company to allow users to freely post. The government can respond to posts they disagree with, with their own posts. At least that puts the government person on record, unlike the current regime where the censorship is secret where sometimes the poster doesn’t even know he’s been censored. Imagine government employees, spending taxpayer money posting rebuttals to people commenting on social media: they’ll be accused of wasting our money.
IMHO, the entrenched social media firms want to continue receiving the money and other benefits from the politicians that want to control our speech. Even if it results in a “60 Minutes” interview with Trump where Trump says Obama spied on his campaign, while 60 minutes said it didn’t happen. Today, it’s Leslie Stahl and 60 Minutes who’ve egg on their faces, tomorrow it’s Sullum, especially if we lose the ability to anonymously post our opinions.
"... at which point they become a publisher and subject to defamation lawsuits."
How about NON-Marxist PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS? MY web site, MT rules, MY moderation?
"Publisher. Platform. Pick one." ... 'Cause Power Pig said so!
Your large and ugly punishment boner is showing!!! Be decent, and COVER UP, will ya?!?!?
If you want to love animals, pamper your pets. If you love to eat meat, eat meat. Pick one, ONLY one!
You either love animals, or you eat meat… You can NOT do both! All pet owners who eat meat? Their pets will be slaughtered and their pet-meat distributed to the poor! Because I and 51% of the voters said so! And because we are power pigs, and LOOOOOVE to punish people!