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Donald Trump

Judge Dismisses Trump Lawsuit Against The New York Times

Plus: Senate Judiciary Committee considers the EARN IT Act, the FTC has A.I. in its crosshairs, and more...

Elizabeth Nolan Brown | 5.4.2023 9:44 AM

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A judge has dismissed former President Donald Trump's lawsuit against The New York Times. Trump sued the paper after it published a 2018 story on Trump family business dealings and Trump's "dubious tax schemes during the 1990s." Trump's lawsuit, filed in 2021, accused the paper and three of its reporters of conspiring with his niece, Mary Trump, to get his tax records through illegal means. He sought $100 million in damages.

"The crux of [Trump's] claim is that a reporter for The Times caused his niece, Mary Trump, to take 20-year-old tax and financial documents held by her lawyer and disclose them in violation of a 2001 settlement agreement," noted Justice Robert R. Reed of Manhattan's Supreme Court. (In New York, there are 62 supreme courts—one for each county—while the highest court is called the Court of Appeals.)

Trump "does not specifically dispute the truth of any statements made in the article,"  Reed pointed out. "Rather, [he] alleges that The Times defendants' interaction with Mary Trump resulted in her breach of certain confidentiality provisions of the 2001 settlement agreement, rendering The Times and its journalists liable for tortious interference with contract, aiding and abetting tortious interference with contract, unjust enrichment, and/or negligent supervision."

But Trump's allegations against the Times and its reporters "fail as a matter of constitutional law," wrote Reed in a Wednesday decision.

"Courts have long recognized that reporters are entitled to engage in legal and ordinary news-gathering activities without fear of tort liability — as these actions are at the very core of protected First Amendment activity," Reed wrote.

The judge ordered Trump to pay the legal fees of the three Times reporters he sued and the paper's legal fees.

It's unclear whether Trump will appeal the ruling.

Trump also sued his estranged niece and the court has not yet ruled in this case.

Reed's decision marks a series of losses for Trump and his team in lawsuits against media outlets. Earlier this year, a federal judge dismissed a defamation suit that his 2020 reelection campaign had filed against The Washington Post. Federal judges have also dismissed defamation suits filed by the Trump campaign against The New York Times and CNN, while the campaign agreed to dismiss a suit against Wisconsin NBC affiliate WJFW.

"The Trump campaign framed the lawsuits as a strike back against habitually dishonest and unfair reporting by major media outlets," noted Reason's C.J. Ciaramella:

Trump has repeatedly complained over the years that libel laws need to be "opened up" to remove the strong protections that news outlets have enjoyed from defamation lawsuits since the landmark 1964 Supreme Court case New York Times v. Sullivan. The ruling in Sullivan established that, to prevail on a defamation claim, public figures must show that the publishers knew the statements were false or acted with reckless disregard for the truth.

On the 2016 campaign trail, Trump said, "I'm going to open up our libel laws so when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money. We're going to open up those libel laws. So when The New York Times writes a hit piece which is a total disgrace or when The Washington Post, which is there for other reasons, writes a hit piece, we can sue them and win money instead of having no chance of winning because they're totally protected."

In 2018, Trump once again said his administration would take "a strong look" at libel laws after his erstwhile personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, filed a defamation lawsuit against BuzzFeed News for publishing a dossier full of salacious claims about the president. "Our current libel laws are a sham and a disgrace and do not represent American values or American fairness," Trump said.

But complaining does not overturn Supreme Court precedent, and the Trump campaign's lawsuits have all so far flamed out for failing to meet Sullivan's high bar.


FREE MINDS

The Senate Judiciary Committee is scheduled to consider the Eliminating Abusive and Rampant Neglect of Interactive Technologies (EARN IT) Act today. The bill—which was also introduced in 2020 and 2022—is yet another matter that would threaten the privacy of all internet users in the name of stopping sexual predators.

EARN IT and another bill before the Judiciary Committee—the Strengthening Transparency and Obligation to Protect Children Suffering from Abuse and Mistreatment Act of 2023 (STOP CSAM Act)—would "lead to peoples' private messages being scanned and reported to the government," warned the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) earlier this week. EFF is one of more than 100 advocacy groups that oppose the EARN IT Act.

In a Tuesday letter to Judiciary Committee leaders, 132 organizations asserted that EARN IT would "make it harder for law enforcement to protect children…result in online censorship that will disproportionately impact marginalized communities," and "jeopardize access to encrypted services, undermining a critical foundation of security, confidentiality, and safety on the internet." You can read their whole letter here.


FREE MARKETS

Federal Trade Commission (FTC) head Lina Khan seems to have never met a new tech tool she didn't want to regulate intensely. Her latest crusade is against artificial intelligence (A.I.) tech. In a New York Times op-ed yesterday, Khan compared our current stage of A.I. to the early days of social media platforms like Facebook—a platform the FTC has repeatedly taken aim at. (At present, it's trying to prevent Facebook parent-company Meta from making money off of users under age 18.)

"As the use of A.I. becomes more widespread, public officials have a responsibility to ensure this hard-learned history doesn't repeat itself," argued Khan. "As companies race to deploy and monetize A.I., the Federal Trade Commission is taking a close look at how we can best achieve our dual mandate to promote fair competition and to protect Americans from unfair or deceptive practices."

That's bureaucrat-speak for "we're going to try our damnedest to stifle innovation and competition in this market before it really has a chance…"


QUICK HITS

• PEN America warns of "a troubling new trend in censorship legislation that affects higher education: a shift from bills that ban lists of so-called 'divisive concepts' in classroom instruction, toward a new class of bills that specifically restrict the content of curricula, including majors, minors, and general education."

• The Free Speech Coalition is suing to stop a Utah law (S.B. 287) that requires porn platforms to verify the ages of all visitors from Utah.

• "New York's new state budget includes a provision banning gas stoves in new residential construction," reports Reason's Christian Britschgi.

• TikTok is raising eyebrows after suspending the account of the Acton Institute after the think tank shared clips from a documentary about Hong Kong pro-democracy activist Jimmy Lai.

• Capping credit card fees will hurt the poor, writes Veronique de Rugy.

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  1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago (edited)

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    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Sarc will tell you that you can learn more from what is not said than what is said.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Sarcasmic and Shrike should get together and write a blog.

        1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

          *Comic Book Guy voice*

          Worst. Blog. Ever.

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Sarc is busy claiming he has always been right and everyone who was actually right is a conspiracy theorist in the other thread.

        3. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

          Sarcasmic and Shrike should get together and write a blog

          Why be redundant? Reason and Outside the Beltway both represent 99% of my political views.

          About OTB
          Overview
          We’re an online journal of politics and foreign affairs analysis. For the most part, our views are Classical Liberal: a strong belief in free trade, limited government, and respect for human rights. We aim to have informed, polite conversation about the issues we find interesting.

          1. Sevo   2 years ago

            turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is TDS-addled asshole, a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
            If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
            turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

          2. damikesc   2 years ago

            You mean the site with 100% support of Biden?

            Yeah. Makes sense.

            1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

              "our views are Classical Liberal: a strong belief in free trade, limited government, and respect for human rights."

              1. damikesc   2 years ago

                My, an entity that does not live up to its professed beliefs? I cannot fathom such a thing occurring.

                The USSR had a very liberal constitution. I bet rights were super sacrosanct there.

                How is Biden's promise to unify us coming?

              2. Sevo   2 years ago

                turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
                If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
                turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

              3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago (edited)

                You’re about as classical liberal as Walter Reuther.

              4. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                “our views are Classical Liberal: a strong belief in free trade, limited government, and respect for human rights.”

                Conservatives in these comments only see "Us and them."

                So if you're not a conservative then you're a leftists.

                Free trade isn't conservative, so it must be leftist.

                Limited government isn't conservative, so it must be leftist.

                Respect in is not conservative value, so it must be leftist.

                Therefore libertarians and classical liberals must be leftists because they're not conservatives.

                1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago (edited)

                  So you’re finally being honest about how you see things, huh?

                  1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    Whats hilarious is sarc has defended the Ukraine war and was defending Bank bailouts from the fed just yesterday. Is he that fucking self unaware?

                    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                      Yup.

                2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  Man that is a lot of retard in one post.

                3. Minadin   2 years ago

                  "Free trade isn’t conservative, so it must be leftist.

                  Limited government isn’t conservative, so it must be leftist.

                  Respect in is not conservative value, so it must be leftist."

                  None of the above statements is true.

          3. DesigNate   2 years ago

            Hahahahahahahahaha

    3. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

      Your previous account was banned for posting links to child pornography.

    4. Ronbback   2 years ago

      that statement is as bad as asking a person "when did you stop beating your wife" not stating is not the same as admitting and since in this case there is a mutual non disclosure neither party can make a statement other than the agreement was broken

    5. StevenF   2 years ago

      That IS NOT a statement by Trump. It is a claim he DID NOT make a statement no one asked for.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    New York's new state budget includes a provision banning gas stoves in new residential construction...

    NO ONE IS COMING FOR YOUR GAS STOVE

    1. HorseConch   2 years ago

      At least they're doing it for the kids.

    2. Overt   2 years ago

      "NO ONE IS COMING FOR YOUR GAS STOVE"

      Right. Reason reporter Billy Binion told me exactly that. For some reason he deleted that tweet. Huh.

      https://twitter.com/GrailHearken/status/1654139449997967361?s=20

      1. damikesc   2 years ago

        Always nice to see libertarians...*checks notes*...buying into whatever the government says. Seems on brand.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Can't be an establishment libertarian without supporting the establishment.

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

        Ha!

      3. Jerry B.   2 years ago

        New York may be coming for your gas stove, heater, water heater, etc., but they're not coming for the gas fired electric plants that provide 60% of New York's electricity.

        1. Pear Satirical   2 years ago

          Yet.

        2. StevenF   2 years ago

          You should probably actually read the sources.
          On the other hand, California is the most guilty of banning power sources.

      4. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        I can handle people making bad tweets. It would be much more endearing if they wrote, "Wow, this was a bad take. Sorry, I'm still being too naive."

        Having bad takes is forgivable. Running from them is a refusal to grow, though, which is not forgivable.

      5. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

        He had a tweet within the last two weeks stating "This is why I'm not a member of the libertarian party' I wonder if that one disappeared too,

    3. Overt   2 years ago

      I did a little back of the envelope calculations on induction stoves. Assuming you are using industrial-scale production, storage and distribution of solar energy, a single stove you use one hour a day requires nearly 90 square feet of solar panels. Just one stove. If every household in the nation converted to modest induction cooktops, that's 400 square miles of solar panels just to cook.

      Rough back of the envelope numbers to replace the entire nation's energy consumption (at 98.34 Quadrillion giga joules, per eia.gov) would take around 132k square miles of solar generation. That is bigger than the state of AZ.

      1. Bill McNeal   2 years ago

        Just because I'm feeling a bit pedantic today.....

        My induction range is rated at 2400 watts, with a 4200 watt "boost" on the main burner. So worst case, I'd be using 4.2kwh for an hour's use. But that's never going to happen. If you're using the cooktop for an hour, you're simmering, so let's say that I'm at 25% power. That's .6kwh for that hour's use (being 25% of 2400 watts).

        A friend installed solar a month ago, and his panels put out 350 watts per hour (.35kwh). Panels are 66"x40". Two panels will more than cover an hour's cooking and take up a bit over 36 square feet.

        Now with all that said, I couldn't care any less about how much electricity my range uses. I do care about how much faster this cooktop heats than a conventional electric or gas top, and I also care that I'm not heating up the house every time I fire it up (so to speak).

        1. Zeb   2 years ago

          350 watts per hour

          Well, as long as we're being pedantic, you don't need the "per hour" there.

        2. Overt   2 years ago

          "If you’re using the cooktop for an hour, you’re simmering...so let’s say that I’m at 25% power"

          So you don't cook 2 things at once? You don't also use the oven? You don't sear or saute before going into the oven? You don't boil water for spaghetti?

          Boiling 8 quarts of water is moving 16+ lbs of water from around 75 degrees F to ~210 (depending on your elevation). At 1 BTU per pound per degree, it takes (16*150degrees) 2160 BTUs. That's 633 Watt hours. That's 745 Watt hours of energy delivered to your 85% efficient stove. That's .75 KWh just to bring 8 quarts of water to a boil. Maintain that boil, for 10 minutes, cook some meatballs or sausage in a pan. Heat up some garlic bread in your oven. I admit is lower than the 1.9kWh I had initially figured, I think that when it is balanced out over time, 1kWh is probably fair for the energy use of the oven. And that means you need about 1.17kWh from your friend's solar panels, after accounting for the .85% efficiency of the battery and solar system.

          It is an open question whether your friend actually is getting .35kW/h from their panel. Here in sunny California, after dirt, clouds, regular degradation of the panel, and seasonality, you are getting around 1.9kWh per day in the summer, and 1.1kWh in december out of a .35kW rating. Annualized this comes out to around .323 kW from the panel, or .29 after storing in your 90% efficient Tesla wall. That would suggest that, yes, your friend can have a stove if he is willing to dedicate 2 panels on his roof to that sole use.

          Interestingly, my original calculations were talking about the cost in industrial power generation in pristine areas like the Mojave desert. My original "90 Square feet for 1.9kWh/d" calculation came from power ratings of the industrial facility ad Desert Sunlight. We don't need to figure out the efficiency of their panels or anything. We know for a fact that their net power output is 340 MW per acre. Throw in 90% industrial storage, and 90% distribution efficiency (very conservative estimates) and 1kWh of use each day means your stove accounts for around 57ft^2 of endangered tortoise habitat. If you switch to the "revolutionary" (bird roasting, driver blinding, accident causing) Ivanpah solar concentration farm outside Vegas, you are back to around 80 sf for every induction stove.

          "I do care about how much faster this cooktop heats than a conventional electric or gas top, and I also care that I’m not heating up the house every time I fire it up (so to speak)."

          I agree that I could save 10 minutes on boiling water, but other than that, my expensive induction, which broke down at the cost of $400 to repair, was never substantially better than my even renters-grade gas stoves. I ripped mine out years ago and never looked back.

          And as for heating up your house, if boiling water with gas takes an extra 800 BTU and raises the temperature of my house by 1.5 degrees, it is a price I am willing to take to never have to deal with an induction stove again. (I do have an induction heat plate. $120, great for shabu at the table, or pot lucks, and I've only had to replace it once so far.)

        3. StevenF   2 years ago

          If you use the term "watts per hour" you literally don't know the meaning of the term watts. Therefore, I am entirely justified discounting your entire comment as uniformed prattle.

          Note: Watt is a RATE of energy use. Saying "watts per hour" is like saying you drove at X "miles per hour per hour".

          Your cook top heat SLOWER than any gas cook top. The gas flame is at full temp the INSTANT it ignites. That is further evidence you know not what you speak.

          1. Overt   2 years ago

            The rate of heating isn't exactly right. Sure, your stove's burner can immediately put out 40k BTU when it turns on. But all that heat doesn't immediately go to the water. Around 30-40% of the heat is lost- it goes into the air around the pot, and goes up and away via convection before it transfers to the pot. The heat that goes into the pot then either transfers to the water, or radiates/convects away from the outside of the pot.

            Induction Stoves transfer ~85% of their energy to the pot itself by using electromagnetic waves to vibrate the molecules of the metal. From there, the energy does about the same as any other pot- most of the heat dumping into the water, while some convects/radiates away.

            Induction stoves DO generally boil water faster than a gas stove. I generally could boil a bot of water 20 - 30% faster than a gas stove. But, you have to use the right metal pans, and they can make annoying high-pitch noises that drive your kids and dog nuts, and they rely upon expensive solid-state electronics that cost quite a bit to repair. I didn't hate my induction stove, but I prefer gas.

            (As noted in this morning's articles, as long as we get our electricity from Natural Gas, burning gas at the stove will be as or more efficient than burning gas at a power plant to turn into electricity that is distributed to your house.)

      2. HorseConch   2 years ago

        We'll be "green", though. Disregard mining input materials, processing said materials, shipping materials and finished product, damage/failure that leads to replacement, or all the times we burn gas because it's dark and/or cloudy and you can cook with a grin knowing you are saving the children from almost certain combustion. We have to move on to this great green economy because if we don't, the earth will be uninhabitable 26-43 years ago depending on which model you use.

      3. JoeB   2 years ago

        Just temporarily. Once you replace 80% of the workforce with AI, you can proceed with the mass sterilization of the reproductive-age population with mRNA vectors and gender-reassignment (forced of course via the public school collection system), as well as reducing the population of the aged and infirm by age- and infirmity-specific viruses (I know, never happen, right?). At that point you will need only the equivalent area of the state of Rhode Island to generate enough solar.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    TikTok is raising eyebrows after suspending the account of the Acton Institute after the think tank shared clips from a documentary about Hong Kong pro-democracy activist Jimmy Lai.

    THE CHICOM GOVERNMENT HAS NO INFLUENCE OVER TIKTOK

    1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

      TikTok told us so

  4. Nardz   2 years ago

    Isn't this the same thing more or less that Assange is accused of?

    https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1653921191248162816?t=EWnr7b5Nds7c2bujTimBpw&s=19

    SHOCK: The New York Times provided Donald Trump's niece with a burner phone so that she could coordinate with them about stealing the president's confidential tax returns from a lawyer's office. The NYT encouraged her to violate the law and her confidentiality agreement.

    FLASHBACK: New York Times reporters obtained decades of tax information from the president's niece. She illegally released them after surreptitiously removing them from a lawyer's office despite signing a confidentiality agreement not to reveal their contents.

    [Links]

    1. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   2 years ago

      Dominion and leftist judge sue fox and win: pos ENB elated
      Trump files a lawsuit with more evidence of damages and gets knocked by Libera jidge: ENB elated

      Face it she is a two faced cunt shill.

      1. HorseConch   2 years ago

        They didn't even win. They forced a settlement. Got a bunch of undeserved money, though.

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          When are they going to learn about appearing before Soros judges in NY and Delaware?

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            SOROS! Drink! A nice German lager!

            1. Sevo   2 years ago

              Don't forget that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
              If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
              turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

            2. damikesc   2 years ago

              Well, like you, he was a Nazi.

            3. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              Good thing Soros didn't fund all those judges and prosecutors in New York, huh Shrike.

              https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/courts/map-soros-prosecutors-country-removed

              https://nypost.com/2023/01/22/george-soros-spent-40m-getting-lefty-district-attorneys-officials-elected-all-over-the-country/

            4. Super Scary   2 years ago

              Soros is also a man, so ML must be a sexist too!

              That's the "logic" you are operating under SPB2.

            5. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              How about you make your cocktail with methanol there, Shrike.

    2. TrickyVic (old school)   2 years ago

      That's what I thought when I heard this.

      It's ok to report what you have, but not ok to be part of the scheme to acquire.

    3. Ronbback   2 years ago

      not just the releasing of statements but also the theft from her own lawyer. should she be prosecuted for the theft as well

  5. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    The Free Speech Coalition is suing to stop a Utah law (S.B. 287) that requires porn platforms to verify the ages of all visitors from Utah.

    VPN's hardest hit.

    1. Dillinger   2 years ago (edited)

      should you really need pornhub if your Jeebus permits multiple naked chicks in your bed?

      1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

        Yeah, if you're not into chicks.

        1. Dillinger   2 years ago

          I never thought of it that way before.

  6. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    Help me understand when it's good for people to release illegally obtained documents and when it's bad.

    1. nobody 2   2 years ago

      It's good if Trump is the target, it's bad if the establishment is the target.

    2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

      Which side is Orangeman on?
      Which side hurts or helps the Democrat establishment? How many movies will they make about the Massachusetts Guard kid?

    3. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

      doublethink, noun

      the acceptance of or mental capacity to accept contrary opinions or beliefs at the same time, especially as a result of political indoctrination.

    4. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

      Generally, the focus of civil and criminal action is against the person who released the information. In this case the niece. It is not against the paper for publishing the information.

      1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        Unless they solicited the illegal acquisition. This is literally why the FBI is going after Project Veritas, because they claim they solicited the theft of Ashley Biden's diary, even though PV tried to return it when they were concerned about how it was obtained.

        I don't know what NYT did in this case but standards need to be applied consistently.

        1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

          Equal application of law has never been in the best interest of those who make and enforce the law.

        2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

          Can you provide a cite that the FBI is still going after Project Veritas? I don’t see any references to any current investigations or cases.

          Or did you mean to write, "This is literally why the FBI went after Project Veritas..."

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

            You want daily updates to prove they went after PV? Do you have a cite they dropped the investigation you seemingly admitted was started?

            They raided offices and homes you authoritarian defending shit. The violation already occurred. But please defend it.

          2. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

            I've seen nothing suggesting that case and the charges were ever dropped. Last I heard there was still a special master overseeing protected communications to protect attorney-client privilege.

            If you believe that case was dropped, I would welcome YOU to provide a citation for that information. I can't cite to a fact that I'm unaware of.

            EVEN IF the case was dropped, the similarity of facts in this case still invite a comparison.

            1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

              Specifically, which case is “that case”? Which charges are “the charges”?

              1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

                Dummy.

              2. damikesc   2 years ago

                They raided his house.

                They do that for no reason?

                1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

                  Yes, I know that the FBI conducted a raid. A raid is neither a “case” nor a “charge”.

                  For me to acccept A Thinking Mind's challenge to provide a citation about "that case" being dropped I have to know specifically what case he is referring to.

                  1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    Was raiding his house defensible per Reason's perfect libertarian? Why are you trying to downplay an action that already occurred?

                  2. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

                    How about this: Let me know when all of the stuff taken in the raid is returned to James O'Keefe. I assume this "case" is still ongoing as long as they're still poking through his stolen underwear.

                    1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                      The latest I could find:

                      https://lawandcrime.com/federal-court/citing-ongoing-probe-feds-say-they-dont-want-to-return-electronic-devices-and-data-to-project-veritas-these-materials-will-have-evidentiary-value/

                      The motion was filed by Project Veritas’ lawyers. I wonder if that has something to do with no follow up after he left PV.

      2. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

        You can't solicit illegal activity. You have to at least have a fig leaf of innocence, it certainly cant be documented that you made blatant efforts to get the person to commit a crime because you want the info.

      3. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

        The times worked with her to obtain them illegally.

    5. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

      I expect Mary Trump to bear the brunt of her breaking her contract (still to be seen). NYT was not a party to said contract, so was under no obligation to keep secret.

      Just like how Glen Greenwald is still free while Snowden is in exile. If only Julian Assange was granted the same degree of freedom from Obama, Trump and now Biden admins.

      1. HorseConch   2 years ago

        While that part of it would be true, and maybe civil liability is different, but they would also be guilty if it were a criminal matter. If I paid you to rob a liquor store and bring me a case of Mad Dog, Sarc would be my new best friend, but I would be found guilty with you.

      2. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

        Glen was not an actor in Snowden's acts but a recipient after the fact, the same cannot be said for the NYT or Assange.

    6. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Coordinated to obtain illegal documents. It isnt even they were just given them. They coordinated to obtain these illegally.

    7. HorseConch   2 years ago

      It wasn't even bad. Only done by the really bad man that touches them in their feelings. Not like they are telling everyone that we are getting our money stolen in Ukraine and laundered back to our politicians or anything important.

  7. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

    Spread lies and falsehoods and be rewarded if you're a leftist; tell the truth and be punished if you're to the right of Mao is apparently the Reason approved vision of free speech.

    Then there is the rabid support of sexualizing children which makes me think that "free minds" moniker has been taken to mean free of thought or morality. GFY ENB.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Ah, the Libertine Party, founded by Caligula.

  8. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    WHERE HERSCHEL?

    A billionaire donor gave $535,200 to Herschel Walker for his senate campaign, but it went to his personal company instead: report

    https://www.businessinsider.com/herschel-walker-put-donors-money-in-own-company-dennis-washington-2023-5

    Those hoping for a Trump/Walker ticket may want to reconsider.

    1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

      In addition to being a pedophile, you hate black people who get uppity and leave the Democratic plantation.

    2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Always read Shrike's links, because he never does.

      "Herschel Walker... received $535,200 in political contributions that were wired to his personal company...
      Because the $535,200 was sitting in HR Talent, hey were legally unusable for Walker's campaign. When Washington's staff learned of this, they contacted Walker asking whether the funds could be sent to a super PAC supporting the then-GOP candidate, The Daily Beast reported...
      The Daily Beast noted that it's possible Walker could have returned the money to Washington. Insider could not immediately verify if the cash has been sent back to Washington or if it still remains in Walker's account."

      1. So Walker's friend accidentally wired his donation to Walker's company instead of his PAC.
      2. Walker couldn't transfer the funds from his company to the PAC because that would've been illegal.
      3. Walker may have just given the money back to his friend, but we don't know because the DNC Beast and the Insider never bothered to ask.

      This is the same sort of garbage they tried pulling on Clarence Thomas last month.

      1. HorseConch   2 years ago

        The wording of that makes it sound like they think he did, but if they went looking, their shitty headline would be proven to be a lie.

      2. Sevo   2 years ago

        Well, turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    3. damikesc   2 years ago

      Gee, racism by pluggo. Stunner.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Any criticism of Herschel (a dumbass politician) is deemed racist by you progs.

        1. damikesc   2 years ago

          Assuming he stole money when there is zero evidence he did is racism. Don't worry...Nazis also liked diddling kids, so you've found your crowd.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            Assuming he stole money when there is zero evidence

            See Hunter Biden.

            1. Sevo   2 years ago

              turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
              If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
              turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

              1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                He's redirecting now that his big Herschel "gotcha" turned out to be nothing again.

                "Any criticism of Herschel (a dumbass politician) is deemed racist by you progs."

                Look a him pretend an accusation that turned out to be phony was valid "criticism".
                What garbage he is.

            2. damikesc   2 years ago

              Who's accused Hunter of STEALING money?

              He simply sells access, which is ALSO illegal, mind you.

              I have no doubt plenty of people pay him money to give to his father so he will do what they want.

              1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                He simply sells access, which is ALSO illegal, mind you.

                Unethical, yes, but is it illegal? Can you say how it is illegal?

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  FARA dumbass.

                  1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                    Mike's problem is thinking everyone else is dumber than him, so he can get away with being tricky.

                    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      It isn't like we have discussed the illegalities here for over a year.

                      But ignorance seems to be his game. He can't be wrong if he knows zero information or something.

                    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

                      I think Mike is too dumb, perhaps intentionally, to think about whether or not others are dumb enough to respect what he says.

            3. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              Look at him try to change the subject, even though nobody has accused Hunter of theft (yet).

              Oops, what's this? Looks like your job's about to get busier:

              New Emails Prove Hunter Biden Was Selling Access to His Father

        2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Shouting "Racism!" in response to any criticism of a POC?

          WE LEARNED IT FROM YOU!

    4. TrickyVic (old school)   2 years ago (edited)

      “”WHERE HERSCHEL?””

      Living rent free in your head.

    5. DesigNate   2 years ago

      Fuck off, racist.

  9. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    ...a shift from bills that ban lists of so-called 'divisive concepts' in classroom instruction, toward a new class of bills that specifically restrict the content of curricula, including majors, minors, and general education.

    The harder you swing that pendulum toward your preferences...

  10. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/AgentLoyalist/status/1653908243566174209?t=oYPAsmQ0nY2MEsU0CZXNdQ&s=19

    A full-blown effort is being made to ensure Jordan Neely becomes the next George Floyd. They're trying to make Neely another household name.

    Meanwhile, I still can't find the name of the man brutally savaged in this video by criminals.

    [Link]

    Deep down, nobody wanted to ride a train w/Jordan Neely. Somehow, he's still going to end up being better-known & more regarded as a victim than the man beaten over the weekend in Oakland.

    To quote a refrain heard during the Trump years: the soul of the country is at stake.

    1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      Yarl is a household name and has been to the WH with non stop attention.

      A little white 6 year old girl who got shot by a black man (and her parents shot at also) for retrieving a basketball from his yard has not gotten any attention, nor a WH invite.

      They want their race war, and they'll be damned if they dont get it

      1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

        They want their race war, and they’ll be damned if they dont get it

        ^This right here. The last few attempts didn't pan out, but they'll keep trying.

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          In the 20's and 60's the Democrats focused on inciting whites, this time around they're inciting blacks. Same tactics, same goals, different players.

      2. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

        Yarl got 3+ million from donations. The girl got 40k.

        1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

          "The girl got 40k."

          Hard to get donations when your story gets memory holed in 5 minutes after brief (or nonexistent) coverage.

          Much easier when the press give you what amounts to a full media tour and the president brings you in to give you a medal. But you have to contribute to the narrative that racist whites are the problem

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            Yes, there is a double standard in the media. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to only look at the Dadesville media non-story of four murdered black teens a few weeks back.

            But you're saying that is worthy of a race war?

            No. it isn't.

            1. damikesc   2 years ago

              Would it not be racist to focus on a crime involving 4 black suspects? They tend to not like reporting on stories if the suspect is not something they can use to attack the right.

              1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                I agree.

                That story got shut down the moment it became obvious that it was a black-on black massacre.

                If not racist it was a form of bigotry. "We can't blame the victim" is bigotry for sure.

                1. damikesc   2 years ago

                  The story was shut down the moment the suspect could not be used to attack the right.

                  Same reason why the Nashville school shooter got memory holed so quickly.

                  1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

                    As well as the King Soopers shooter. Once it came out that the guy was a Syrian Arab with mental health problems, the entire left never said another word about it.

                2. Sevo   2 years ago

                  Remember that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
                  If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
                  turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit

            2. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

              "But you’re saying that is worthy of a race war?"
              ....
              "They want their race war, and they’ll be damned if they dont get it"

              Those aren't the same. Reading comprehension is hard.

      3. damikesc   2 years ago

        As I've seen pointed out, whenever you hear that if what happened to a black man had happened to a white man, you'd have way different coverage --- they are correct.

        You'd have basically no coverage at all.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Hey don't you understand that anti-journalism is just one way to achieve anti-racism?

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      A full-blown effort is being made to ensure Jordan Neely becomes the next George Floyd. They’re trying to make Neely another household name.

      Yeah, this media narrative is clearly being astroturfed because the left's CRT implementation is being resisted more robustly now, and they're looking for something that will keep their cultural revolution's momentum going.

      It doesn't matter that his death was an accident, or that Neely was actually a piece of shit who routinely victimized innocent people and got away with it. The left desperately wants this culture war to go hot because they know the media will carry their water for them in the conflict.

    3. Minadin   2 years ago

      What the hell is up with people beating and kicking on people while they are down / out recently?

      Seems like a cultural shift.

  11. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    EARN IT and another bill before the Judiciary Committee—the Strengthening Transparency and Obligation to Protect Children Suffering from Abuse and Mistreatment Act of 2023 (STOP CSAM Act)...

    Time to revive my Stop Tortured Acronyms in Legislation Legislation bill.

  12. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    ...would "lead to peoples' private messages being scanned and reported to the government...

    Isn't Google Docs already doing that?

    1. damikesc   2 years ago

      Per Musk, the government was doing that with Twitter for a while now.

      Welcome to the party, ENB.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        But only to protect democracy. And Democrats. So totes OK.

      2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        Welcome to the party, ENB.

        Dit dit dit signal sent

        1. damikesc   2 years ago

          She wrote this, no?

          She was stating one of the problems was that the government might have access to your private messages.

          I informed her that they have ALREADY been doing that. Reason did not care much about the Twitter issues for years.

          Hard to say "Oh no, this might happen" when it has already been happening, but because "MUH PRIVATE PLATFORMZ!" did it, Reason gave no shits.

          1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

            She wrote this, no?

            And what did she write or not write about "Per Musk, the government was doing that with Twitter for a while now" that warranted your comment?

            1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              Oh fuck.

            2. damikesc   2 years ago (edited)

              You’re aware I specifically answered this in the post you’re replying to, right? Explicitly so.

              It was the NEXT TWO very small portions of text after the one you cited.

              1. damikesc   2 years ago

                I don't bitch about your "Cite?" schtick, but Laursen, can you at least READ a post you're replying to? Especially if it is not long?

                1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                  You just don’t like anyone who isn’t a member of your echo chamber looking at the things you say with a critical eye.

              2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

                You did not. You say you “informed” ENB of something but there is no evidence she didn’t already know about it.

            3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

              JFC laursen, have you no reflex control at all?

      3. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   2 years ago

        But that was to get those icky deploreables

  13. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Rather, [he] alleges that The Times defendants' interaction with Mary Trump resulted in her breach of certain confidentiality provisions of the 2001 settlement agreement...

    Being a woman she couldn't possibly be responsible herself.

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

      I am just small time country lawyer but a case of the vapours means cased closed.

    2. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      Being a woman she couldn’t possibly be responsible herself.

      Of course not, women have no agency. IT IS KNOWN.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Duh. That's why every social encounter with a man is tantamount to rape.

        1. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   2 years ago

          Like E Jean carol. She's been raped by 30 different people. And all of her rape stories have been predocumented into law and order svu episodes

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            Still waiting for Law and Order SUV, and their take on that fictional parade episode.

            1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

              It was a self driving vehicle that tragically lost it's internet connection due to racist toddlers and grandmas blocking a public thoroughfare.

              1. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

                No, it will be a white perp.

    3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

      Haha. Look at the biologist go…

  14. JesseAz   2 years ago

    The shroud is coming off the practices associated with so-called gender affirming care for minors and the research that purportedly favors giving children puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones and surgically removing healthy breasts and genitals.
    .
    In a four-page "summary of conclusions" from its eight-week internal investigation, the university declared that its physicians and staff treat patients in line with the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) "standard of care," also used by the American Academy of Pediatrics, whose gender transition research has been challenged by its own allies.

    WPATH is an activist organization that advocates for genital surgery.

    But it quietly confirmed Reed's affidavit claims that the clinic didn't require "written consent" from parents before starting treatment or seek "custody agreements" that specify "who among divorced parents must consent to medical procedures" by default.
    .
    The university also denied finding any "adverse physical reactions caused by medications prescribed by Center providers," which is complicated by a former clinic staffer who told NBC News she recognized a case mentioned in Reed's affidavit, Singal said.

    Side effects are well known.

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/health/gender-clinic-kids-confirms-some-whistleblower-claims-pledges-vague-changes

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Nuh-Uhh

      /mike

    2. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

      Mike's "reality" hardest hit.

    3. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      Paging my brother, Mike Laursen!

      Any comments brother mike? How many cites do you need before admitting you were wrong?

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Why would Mike comment on something that he's positive doesn't happen?

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Another conspiracy theory. It isnt happening on minors at 7am on May 4th.

      2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        Don't know. What did JesseAz write?

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Fuck. You brag about being ignorant. It is amazing.

        2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Maybe if you didn't mute everyone who contradicts your belief system, maybe you might be in a position to actually learn something.

          1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

            Not capable.

        3. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

          Need someone other than JesseAz or TrollLogic to tell me what JesseAz wrote. Brother Mike Parsons, care to follow up on your question by telling me what I am supposed to be responding to?

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            LOL.

            This is what intentional ignorance looks like.

          2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Mike Laursen: blissful, retarded ignorance provided by the mute button.

          3. Mike Laursen's hugbox   2 years ago

            "Need someone other than JesseAz or TrollLogic to tell me what JesseAz wrote."

            He told you to go fuck yourself. Everyone else here concurs.

            Now go back in your bubble and plug your ears again so you don't have to deal with conflicting opinions.

        4. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

          The shroud is coming off the practices associated with so-called gender affirming care for minors and the research that purportedly favors giving children puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones and surgically removing healthy breasts and genitals.
          .
          In a four-page “summary of conclusions” from its eight-week internal investigation, the university declared that its physicians and staff treat patients in line with the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) “standard of care,” also used by the American Academy of Pediatrics, whose gender transition research has been challenged by its own allies.

          WPATH is an activist organization that advocates for genital surgery.

          But it quietly confirmed Reed’s affidavit claims that the clinic didn’t require “written consent” from parents before starting treatment or seek “custody agreements” that specify “who among divorced parents must consent to medical procedures” by default.
          .
          The university also denied finding any “adverse physical reactions caused by medications prescribed by Center providers,” which is complicated by a former clinic staffer who told NBC News she recognized a case mentioned in Reed’s affidavit, Singal said.

          Side effects are well known.

          https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/health/gender-clinic-kids-confirms-some-whistleblower-claims-pledges-vague-changes

          1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

            I read through the entire article. Where is the gotcha that is supposed to be my comeuppance? Where does it say that a surgeon in the United States performed “gender-affirming” penis removal or hysterectomy on a minor?

            It’s a long article so maybe I missed it.

            Why is your comment talking about all kinds of things like hormone blockers, breast surgery, parental permission slips that I have not disagreed about with anyone here?

          2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

            Read it twice now. Where does it talk about “gender-affirming” genital surgery on minors?

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Literally the first paragraph. LOL. The bolded part.

    4. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Mike Laursen hardest hit.

    5. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH)

      They couldn't come up with some way to work an A and R after the W (WARPATH)? That's just sloppy acronyming. They need to hire whichever congressional staffer came up with the EARN IT Act's name.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Both Mike and Jeff have cited WPATH guidance as authoritative. It is pretty impressive they don't claim to be on the left.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Hey, nothing says libertarian like cutting off the dicks of little boys.

          1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

            Without informing their parents that their child is going through some mental illness or that they're going to chop their dick off before starting them on the medication/ hormone therapy, no less.

          2. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Freedom to mutilate children is our most precious of freedoms. The Azteca empire was the most libertarian empire ever.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

              Sigh. Remember a few years back when liberals were all up in our faces about clitorectomies?

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Just like they were against conversion therapy. Both those were both initiated from a religious angle, not a state angle. They fully support the state.

        2. Ersatz   2 years ago

          I'll give it a shot..... World Anti-Reality Professional Association for Transgender Health (WarPATH)

    6. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      But it quietly confirmed Reed’s affidavit claims that the clinic didn’t require “written consent” from parents before starting treatment or seek “custody agreements” that specify “who among divorced parents must consent to medical procedures” by default.

      Every single one of those medical providers should be lined up against a wall and shot.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        The entire response in the article from the medical center is horrendous conduct.

  15. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

    "Courts have long recognized that reporters are entitled to engage in legal and ordinary news-gathering activities without fear of tort liability — as these actions are at the very core of protected First Amendment activity," Reed wrote.

    But what is legal and ordinary? Is soliciting the illegal procurement of documents concerning a single individual's private business dealings an ordinary news-gathering activity?

    Seems like the judge just restated the question as the conclusion and moved on.

    1. damikesc   2 years ago

      Yeah, with Pentagon Papers, there was literally zero evidence that any news organization worked with Ellsberg. Here, there is absolute proof they did with Mary.

      These are not comparable situations.

    2. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      The position being pushed is that the 1st Amendment prohibits journalists from being held to any ethical or legal standards of behavior when committing journalism.

      1. damikesc   2 years ago

        So, NYT reporters are even LESS accountable for their actions than police.

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        Only if it benefits the left.

  16. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Lie of the year recipient talks about how important it is for journalists to be trusted as arbiters of truth and fight disinformation.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/barack-obama-lectures-widespread-disinformation-world-press-freedom-day-truth-matters

    1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      "if you like your misinformation, you can keep your misinformation!"

      1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

        Getting rid of misinformation will save the average family $2500/year.

        1. HorseConch   2 years ago

          Even more importantly, it will save us from the resurrection of Orange Hitler.

  17. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

    as it turns out, the government was pressuring those companies to do some of the very exclusions and misinformation peddling that the government promised to remedy

    Facts change!

  18. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

    Another case lost and more legal fees to pay. In addition, Joe Tacopina, does not appear to have been good at cross examining Jean Carroll, and the Mar-a-Lago document lawyers could end up as a prosecution witness. It is no good being a billionaire if you don't get good lawyers and you fail to listen to the one you have.

    1. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   2 years ago

      Introduce a razor to your wrists

    2. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      Do you ever question why all these decisions seem to go only in one direction?

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

        And all in New York.

        Cases are easily won when the judge is working for one of the sides.

        1. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

          Trump has been losing across the country.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Cite?

            1. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

              Donald J. Trump for President, Inc. v. Northland Television, LLC[11] – Wisconsin.

              Donald J. Trump for President, Inc. v. Bucks County Bd. of Elections – Pennsylvania

              Donald J. Trump for President, Inc. v. Toulouse Oliver - New Mexico.[21]
              Donald J. Trump for President, Inc. v. Bullock – Montana

              Donald J. Trump vs Hillary Clinton - Florida

      2. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

        The law is not a game of random chance where one expects that decision distribute out evenly either way. The law requires skill and that why people hire lawyers and why people pay good lawyers big money. I am sure that Donald Trump has been successful in many lawsuits and I am sure that his success was because he had money behind him. What I think you have now is Donald Trump is playing on a level field where his wealth provides no advantage. In these situations you have to develop new strategies and that does not yet appear to have happened.

    3. Ronbback   2 years ago

      Good lawyers are too scared to work for Trump since all the past ones have had to defend against false accusations from teh left leaning prosecutorrs. Its the process thats the punishment not the facts of any wrong doing

      1. JoeB   2 years ago

        They also risk disbarment (sp?) from their own state bars for working for Trump.

  19. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    So, it all comes together now. What do you call "MAGA" in terms of political philosophy? You can't call it libertarianism or liberalism, it is not Bushism or Neocon, it is not even close to Barry Goldwater conservatism, so what is it?

    It is working class nationalism Christian anti-intellectual, anti free trade, anti WEF/globalism. BUT how do you classify it?

    A new ideology of prosperity and working-class unity, built on the ashes of America’s liberal democracy.
    ....
    “It sounds crazy. It’s called ‘MAGA Communism,’ and the ‘communism’ thing means common wealth, common prosperity,” Haz tells one man, in a video he posted to his YouTube channel from the event. “We all come together: the workers striking at the railways, the MAGA industrial working class, the small farmers, we all unite with our power. We kick out the globalists. We kick out George Soros. We kick out Klaus Schwab. We stop that Great Reset agenda in its tracks.”
    ..
    Promoting “MAGA Communism” alongside Haz has been 23-year-old Jackson Hinkle, a commentator who also has his own show on YouTube. Recently, Hinkle has agitated around the “globalist” threat (a term most commonly used as an antisemitic dog-whistle), championed Putin in the Ukraine war, and made the rounds on right-wing cable news, including appearances on OANN and Tucker Carlson Tonight.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/88qk4b/what-the-hell-is-magacommunism

    This fits JesseAZ, Mothers Lament, ITL, damiesk, Red Rocks, NAardz, R Mac, Sevo and the other MAGA Peanuts perfectly.

    You are MAGA-Communists.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      LOL @ your gullibility.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        You misspelled partisan tripe.

    2. damikesc   2 years ago

      Preferrable to pedophile, pedo.

    3. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      What pronoun do we use for retard?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        stupid/fucktard

    4. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Shrike never reads his own articles, but he is a neocon and likes a good 'Red Scare' as much as any other budding Joe McCarthy.

      Together... mock “planet worshippers,” dismissing modern climate change efforts as virtue-signaling “green fascism” backed by corporate entities.

      OH NO!!!

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Well, I see four of you have responded.

        Score:

        MAGA-Communists = 4
        Liberal Democracy = 1 (my vote)

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          Remember that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            Score:

            MAGA-Communists = 5
            Liberal Democracy = 1 (my vote)

            1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              Disagree with green fascism and Shrike says you're a MAGA-c0mMuNisT, Sevo.

              1. Sevo   2 years ago

                Well, turd lies. It's all turd does.

              2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Soros has a lot invested in green energy schemes. Shrike has to therefore treat it and it's alarmism as sacrosanct.

            2. Sevo   2 years ago

              We all lnow that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
              If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
              turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit

            3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago (edited)

              Some real “Librulz r da reel racists!” energy there, hicklib.

              Must be a side effect of adopting neocons as your political allies.

        2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago (edited)

          National Socialism is neither liberal or democratic, Shrike… although it definitely is big-D Democratic.

          Also, explain to us how dangerous "dismissing modern climate change efforts as virtue-signaling “green fascism”", is.

        3. JoeB   2 years ago

          How can you label MAGA anti-intellectual, when every single "intellectual" position taken by the establishment has been proven wrong? Yes, I am including anthropogenic climate change "emergency", as well as the source of COVID, the efficacy of the vax, the efficacy of masking, the efficacy of closing schools and businesses. All those dipshit "intellectuals" were dead wrong, and the MAGA-type politicians with the courage to resist were right. So fuck off, slaver.

    5. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      We kick out the globalists. We kick out George Soros. We kick out Klaus Schwab. We stop that Great Reset agenda in its tracks.”

      This is what really set the hicklib pederast off; they named his sugar daddy.

    6. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      MAGA-Communists

      Now there's an oxymoron posted by a simple moron.

    7. DesigNate   2 years ago

      Imagine shilling for democrats for all your adult life and then having the audacity to call other people communists.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        The irony and projection on display by our resident pederast can be amazing to behold at times.

  20. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

    The Senate Judiciary Committee is scheduled to consider the Eliminating Abusive and Rampant Neglect of Interactive Technologies (EARN IT) Act today. ...

    EARN IT and another bill before the Judiciary Committee—the Strengthening Transparency and Obligation to Protect Children Suffering from Abuse and Mistreatment Act of 2023 (STOP CSAM Act)

    Just a friendly reminder: any law whose name is chosen so that the acronym spells out a word or phrase is guaranteed to be a shitty law.

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

      But they spent so much time crafting the acronym, that you know the body of the legislation must be gold.

    2. Super Scary   2 years ago (edited)

      You either get forced acronyms or you have to let your enemy give the bill/act a nickname that all the news sites will use moving forward. One or the other, that’s it.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        “Don’t say acronym “.

  21. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   2 years ago

    It's almost like tic tok is a ccp chink psy opp, and not a sacred relic.

  22. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

    New York's new state budget includes a provision banning gas stoves in new residential construction

    Impossible. I have it on good authority that no one is trying to ban gas stoves and any suggestion to the contrary is a right-wing conspiracy theory.

    1. Ronbback   2 years ago

      I find it silly that the article calls it a conspiracy when they find anti gas laws back in 2019 as proof of it actually being done. when ever its right leaning they have to have a derogatory nomenclature to describe it why its not necessary other than to prove their own bias which harms all that is written afterwords

  23. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    PEN America warns of "a troubling new trend in censorship legislation that affects higher education: a shift from bills that ban lists of so-called 'divisive concepts' in classroom instruction, toward a new class of bills that specifically restrict the content of curricula, including majors, minors, and general education."

    Public schools are not private schools.

    Public schools are ALREADY fully under the control of the government that runs them, which not only can but by definition MUST have rules controlling and restricting the content of curricula, including majors, minors and general education.

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

      It's troubling when state legislators do what they were elected to do.

  24. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    Capping credit card fees will hurt the poor, writes Veronique de Rugy.

    All price controls, in every form, hurt the poor.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      As long as they vote (D).

  25. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/cybersygh/status/1653896318211997696?t=cB2D8thBQ0syaVMaalXQdg&s=19

    You see a woman begging and pleading for help after someone grabs her hair and refuses to let go, I see a man (?) experiencing a mental health crisis brought on by lack of housing and access to appropriate resources

    Letting yourself and those around you get shat on and assaulted and murdered by crazy people is part of being a Kind Fucking Person. Have a little compassion, ok? You don’t want to be like those rightwing extremists who can’t handle the normal aspects of city-living

    Just be Kind, just be a Kind Fucking Person Dude, don’t be a Fucking Bigot dude, you’re sounding like a Fascist Dudebro there Bud, Touch Grass bud, have some Fucking Compassion, Go Outside chud, learn some Basic Fucking Decency bud

    [Video]

    1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      Seriously, who are all these mentally ill people that record this shit while no one steps up to do something?

      Daily, videos of people standing around recording while people are beaten, assaulted...Im sorry, if you are a man and someone is doing this shit to a woman in front of you, stand the fuck up and put a stop to it, if you just record and post it you are scum

      1. Nardz   2 years ago

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness

        "Most of the Group 3 dogs – which had previously learned that nothing they did had any effect on shocks – simply lay down passively and whined when they were shocked."

        1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

          Daily, videos of people standing around recording while people are beaten, assaulted

          Some of it might be learned helplessness, but there's also a phenomenon with crowds (I forget what it's called) where everyone just assumes that someone else will step in and stop what's happening, so no one ends up doing anything. Other than stand around and watch or maybe record it on their phone.

          Whether they're recording it on their phone to have documented evidence of what happened to give to the police or just so they can have a viral video to post is an open question. Because I'm a cynical asshole, I tend to assume it's mostly the latter.

          1. Super Scary   2 years ago

            "Some of it might be learned helplessness, but there’s also a phenomenon with crowds (I forget what it’s called) where everyone just assumes that someone else will step in and stop what’s happening, so no one ends up doing anything. "

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect

            1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

              Yep, that's what I was getting at. Thanks.

      2. Cyto   2 years ago

        Didn't someone just do this on a NYC subway and end up with a lynch mob after him?

        1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

          Ive seen a few videos such as this, and it should be the default. Unfortunately for every 1 like it, I see 5 more where 10 people are recording the person getting their face pounded

          Even as a young asshole who was involved in quite a few fights even if it was my best friend beating the shit out of someone I didn't like, there's a point where enough is enough. Couple good shots, someone clearly won, you step in an break it up. Its dystopian as fuck having these people getting their faces pounded in while everyone just films

          1. Cyto   2 years ago

            See my link below. Lots of cameras out, nobody steps in to stop a beating that absolutely could have resulted in death.

            In fact, they mock the victim and take more pictures after it is over. Nobody even renders aid.

            1. Cyto   2 years ago

              https://twitter.com/SKMorefield/status/1653159031383502852?t=L24QUH23ZuipirhboyVxvw&s=19

              1. Super Scary   2 years ago (edited)

                In that specific scenario, unless the would-be rescuer has a firearm, anyone that was going to try to help that guy getting his ass beat would be on the receiving end of an ass beating themselves.

                1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

                  It was a pack of wild dogs, you put them down accordingly

            2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

              It's a new level of human insanity.

              1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

                Unfortunately I suspect this kind of shit is par for the course in the late stages of a nation when societal rot and decay gets bad enough.

      3. DesigNate   2 years ago

        And get tried for murder because the left calls for your head? Most people don’t have that intestinal fortitude.

      4. damikesc   2 years ago

        Cannot fault them for not doing anything, especially in large cities. There is too large of a risk of them facing criminal charges.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Too bad the dude wasn't choked to death like that former Marine did to Jordan Neely.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Extreme battered spouse syndrome? "I'm sorry I made you hit me."

  26. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    The Free Speech Coalition is suing to stop a Utah law (S.B. 287) that requires porn platforms to verify the ages of all visitors from Utah.

    While I think it's the parents' job and not government, I do always wonder why certain folks are so adamant about getting sexually explicit material in front of young kids.. hmmmmmmmm

    1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      For some reason, the most important thing to them is being able to show sexually explicit content to children, but dont dare call them groomers.

  27. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    A man accused of shooting and killing one woman and wounding four others at a hospital in Atlanta on Wednesday was arrested following an hours-long manhunt, police said.
    ..
    Deion Patterson, 24, was taken into custody at a condominium complex in nearby Cobb County without incident, officials said at a Wednesday night news conference.
    ..
    Around midday, Patterson went inside the Northside Hospital medical facility and began shooting, police said. The suspect had become agitated while waiting for an appointment when he pulled out a handgun and opened fire, a law enforcement source told CBS News' Pat Milton.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/atlanta-shooting-multiple-people-injured-police-say/

    If Clarence Thomas had a son he would look like Deion.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Let's set your casual racism aside for a second to examine your linking Deion Patterson to Clarence Thomas.

      How? How are they related in your mind?

      Is it because Thomas opposes gun control and Patterson used a gun? Did you forget you're fifty-centing at Reason?

      Is it because they're both black and Obama once said something similar about Treyvon Martin?

      This is the same story you were trying to blame on MAGA yesterday before you found out the shooter was black, isn't it?

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        If turd posts it, it's a lie. Take it to the bank.

      2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        This is the same story you were trying to blame on MAGA yesterday

        Bullshit. Did not happen.

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          Keep in mind that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

        2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          Oh. Okay.

          https://reason.com/video/2023/05/03/how-disinformation-became-public-enemy-no-1/?comments=true#comment-10045762

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2 23 hours ago
            Active shooter in Midtown Atlanta, Peanuts. Multiple victims.

            Did not blame anyone, you liar.

          2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            To be fair, Pluggo did not blame MAGA, he blamed us.

            1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago (edited)

              The ones he was just calling MAGA communists and MAGA peanuts.

              “This fits JesseAZ, Mothers Lament, ITL, damiesk, Red Rocks, NAardz, R Mac, Sevo and the other MAGA Peanuts perfectly. You are MAGA-Communists.

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Are you saying I made another list here? Awesome. Hihn, Sarc, Mike, Shrike. I feel blessed.

                1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

                  Congrats!

                2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

                  Stupid lists…..*kicks pebble*

              2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                Fun, yet another list. Now we just need to see Sarc's list.

              3. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

                Shit I didn't make the list. Gotta step up my game.

    2. Sevo   2 years ago

      Don't forget that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    3. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

      Remember when they said about Dylan Roof, "If he was black, police would have killed him!"

      Just a thought when it turns out this guy surrendered peacefully.

  28. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/GathererSkull/status/1654126468467916800?t=ENCLCx5G_UryHWf70dxwmQ&s=19

    The RW is changing because they've realized and appeal to morals and righteousness only works when you have a righteous moral authority to appeal to

    Without that your playing by rules that don't actually exist and handicapping yourself to do so

    This is a *good thing*

    The real issue is the online Right is no longer a lolcow for centrist foreign entertainers to safely shuck and jive for in order to rake in easy money

    Extremism is good when you're fighting extremism and I'm not sorry this makes you uncomfortable associating with us

    [Link]

  29. Cyto   2 years ago

    It really is kind of funny that this judge is saying that The New York Times inducing someone to disclose something obtained illegally is perfectly fine.

    See, that was the exact crux of the James o'keefe raids. They said that someone giving him something unsolicited was receipt of stolen goods. And then they tried to make the case tha telling them that it wasn't enough to publish meant that he was a co conspirator for instructing them to get more.

    It seems the absolute most obvious precedent to bring up in a libertarian context. Our rule of law seems oddly flexible.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago (edited)

      Yeah… I have no opinion on the exact merits of the Trump lawsuit specifically, but this statement taken in the broadest possible terms:

      “Courts have long recognized that reporters are entitled to engage in legal and ordinary news-gathering activities without fear of tort liability — as these actions are at the very core of protected First Amendment activity,” Reed wrote.

      Seems like it’s not a precedent equally applied… at all.

      But… if we want to apply this standard as broadly as possible, perhaps Julian Assange can get this judge to preside over his case.

    2. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      Our rule of law seems oddly flexible.

      And once that happens, it's all over. We're fully in banana republic mode now (as if it wasn't already obvious).

  30. Rich   2 years ago

    The Free Speech Coalition is suing to stop a Utah law (S.B. 287) that requires porn platforms to verify the ages of all visitors from Utah.

    "In order to verify your age for access to this platform, upload a hi-res photo of your ... driver's license."

  31. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

    Daily Fail releases another episode of Adventures in Troonville"

    "California student slams school district for 'putting women in jeopardy' after video emerges of trans female student assaulting two girls following locker room encounter"
    An 18-year-old California student called out her school district for 'putting women in jeopardy' after a video emerged of a trans female student assaulting two girls following an apparent locker room encounter.
    Megan Simpkins, a senior at Martin Luther King High School, denounced the Riverside Unified School District board at its recent meeting for allowing the transgender student - who was born a biological boy - to use the girls' locker room and bathroom.
    She asked the board why the female students 'don't ever get a say in whether or not we are comfortable with this.'...
    After the video went viral, parents and students told FOX 11 the transgender pupil has a history of 'erratic and uncomfortable behavior.'
    'He spit on my friends that are girls, females,' student Aiden Vermier said. 'He shows his genitals in the locker room.'
    The Riverside Police claimed it was not the first time the trans student had been involved in an altercation at the school. In the aftermath, the school district released a statement reaffirming its commitment to safety.

    Tl;DR--Mentally ill coomer in Blue Land pretends to be a girl in order to be allowed in the girls locker room, so he can see girls in various states of undress for spank material, then uses his male physiology (because he will never be a woman) to kick the shit out of any girls that call him out for doing so.

    Also, girls, that video should disabuse you of the notion that you'll ever be a "girlboss" that can beat up test-fueled boys that are twice your size, no matter what Disney tells you.

    1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      "Also, girls, that video should disabuse you of the notion that you’ll ever be a “girlboss” that can beat up test-fueled boys that are twice your size, no matter what Disney tells you."

      Ya, even an effeminate man pumped full of estrogen would still on average dominate most women. Disney gaslighting is turned up to 11 though. New 'peter pan' is an exercise in girlboss girlbossing

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago (edited)

        Most of this is rooted in “Male Feminist” humiliation fetishes that dates back to Buffy the Vampire Slayer in the late 90s. Before she got cancelled, Gina Carano wouldn’t have had the career that she did if limp-wristed Hollywood execs weren’t jerking themselves off on the thought of being dominated by her physically.

        1. mad.casual   2 years ago

          Slight disagreement, with admittedly nebulous overlap. Not to mount too earnest a defense of Buffy as cinematically/theatrically epic story writing, but I'd submit Captain Janeway from Star Trek: Voyager in place of Buffy on a number of grounds. I'll spare the nerdery except to say that Buffy had, and respected, male mentors and compatriots by choice, was bestowed supernatural powers and is specifically portrayed as growing into them, and SMG isn't that hard to look at whether you're a feminist or not. This is as opposed to Janeway who was raised by her mother, is portrayed as having learned absolutely *nothing* from anyone until turning up as Captain at an age younger than either Kirk or Picard, and, seemingly, generally only abides men as per the chain of command, and is handsome at best.

          1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

            This is as opposed to Janeway who was raised by her mother, is portrayed as having learned absolutely *nothing* from anyone until turning up as Captain at an age younger than either Kirk or Picard, and, seemingly, generally only abides men as per the chain of command, and is handsome at best.

            And all that girl bossing worked out so well wrt Voyager's ratings that they totally didn't have to cast a new character that was pure eye candy to walk around in a skin tight catsuit or anything to get the rating up later... oh wait.

          2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago (edited)

            The irony is that Voyager was really only popular because 90s-era Xer and Millennial males wanted to piledrive Jeri Ryan.

            Edit: ACA beat me to it.

            1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

              "90s-era Xer and Millennial males"...check

              "wanted to piledrive Jeri Ryan" ...triple check

              She was definitely some great masturbation fodder. When Belana Torres went full Klingon and got into a tank-top, wanting to fuck the living shit out of Tom Paris, that wasnt bad either. But really, 6/9 was hands down a non stop boner production factory for Xers and millennials alike.

        2. damikesc   2 years ago

          And the thing is, Carano was hardly the best of the women in MMA (Cris Cyborg handled her fairly easily). She had a good look, but yes, this trend of "strong female leads" is just asinine. Brie Larson would have trouble bruising an apple.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

            Cyborg is practically a man herself. She's basically the MMA version of Britney Griner.

      2. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

        New ‘peter pan’ is an exercise in girlboss girlbossing

        Surely you're not suggesting that a 90 lb tween girl can't beat multiple pirates at sword fighting when her only experience at it is play fighting against against her younger brothers? Crazy talk!

        1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

          That among:

          - making Peter Pan into what amounts to a bystander (who is kind of an asshole) that gets rescued by Wendy
          - making Tiger Lilly the leader of the lost boys (who are 50% black and 50% women, because ya), and having her also running around one shotting grown men with single sword/axe swings...oh also she doesn't get captured by hook, she is there to save the lost boys
          - Tink is now a strong womxn of color.
          - Wendy basically girl bosses the entire finale, easily dispatching the pirates, saving the ship, saving Peter, oh and she learns to fly by imagining her could-be life as a pilot, writer/journolist, and eventually old lady laying on her couch...by herself. You know, the single spinster career woman, the happiest of happy women. You really cant make the stuff up.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

            I guess they left out the part where her cats ate her corpse?

            1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

              they stopped just short of that, but otherwise, it was a clear insight into how intersectional feminists (the writers) have literally no fucking insight into what happens to them past their 40's.

              And it aint pretty.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      "An 18-year-old California student called out her school district for ‘putting women in jeopardy’ after a video emerged of a trans female student assaulting two girls following an apparent locker room encounter."

      Hater!

  32. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Ireland's gone 1984.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/05/03/irelands-new-thoughtcrime-bill-is-shockingly-draconian/

    If the Irish government gets its way, people could soon be arrested and jailed for ‘hate speech’ – even if they never say or write a single ‘hateful’ word.

    The new Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill, which is currently passing through the Irish parliament, contains some shockingly authoritarian provisions. The bill will outlaw the ‘communication’ of material or speech that might ‘incite hatred’ against people with certain protected characteristics (such as race, religion and gender). In practice, if other European hate-speech laws are any guide, ‘inciting hatred’ tends to mean little more than causing offence. This can be punishable by up to five years in prison.

    As if all that weren’t draconian enough, it even makes it a crime, punishable by two years’ jail time, to simply ‘prepare or possess’ material likely to ‘incite hatred’. ‘Possession’ could mean nothing more than having an offensive video stored on your computer, or a dodgy meme saved on your phone.

    As the ‘possession’ provision makes abundantly clear, the real aim of this bill, just like every hate-speech law before it, is not to protect minorities, but to restrict the views of the masses. It is an attempt to make George Orwell’s ‘thoughtcrime’ a reality – to scare people from holding beliefs that are not approved of by the state.

    1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 years ago

      Wouldn't that ban the Bible, Koran, and Bhagavata?

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        And most Buddhist texts.

        Of course that's the feature, not a bug.

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago

      On the one hand: 1984

      On the other hand: I identify as The Quare Fellow and say,
      "In the female prison, there are seventy women
      'Tis among them I wish that I did dwell." and my wish gets granted.

      On the non-binary hand: Identifying as The Quare Fellow and getting locked up in the "female" prison is probably going to be a lot more like getting my head put in a rat cage.

    3. SRG   2 years ago

      They'll make an exception for anti-Semitism, though, by allowing it to be concealed as anti-Zionism.

  33. Cyto   2 years ago

    This popped up on Twitter last night. No idea oof the context or time. But in this environment of "rising hate" stories, I didn't see this on CNN

    https://twitter.com/SKMorefield/status/1653159031383502852?t=L24QUH23ZuipirhboyVxvw&s=19

  34. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Just the beginning?

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/05/03/the-bud-light-boycott-is-just-the-beginning/

    What to make of the Bud Light boycott? What was a few weeks ago dismissed as a conservative tantrum that would go nowhere and soon calm down has turned out to be the most successful consumer boycott of recent years. And in our culture-warring era, in which even booze and ice-cream brands feel compelled to lecture the rest of us about how to think and live, that really is saying something.

    If you missed all this – or if, like me, you have been boycotting Bud Light for years on purely flavour and percentage grounds – then let me fill you in.

    But there’s something undoubtedly positive about this quiet revolt against woke capitalism; against the creep of identitarian activism into every sphere of life; against all the imperious corporations that want to impose their values on everyone else. Long may the pushback continue.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      But there’s something undoubtedly positive about this quiet revolt against woke capitalism; against the creep of identitarian activism into every sphere of life; against all the imperious corporations that want to impose their values on everyone else.

      Let the market speak.

      100% Buttplug approved.

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      They didn't understand how cheap and free the cost to switch products.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        And they were clueless about the social and political views of actual Bud Light drinkers, compared to ESG hire brand execs.

        1. damikesc   2 years ago

          That Bud Light is terrible also helped.

          Bud Light: For people who do not want to drink beer but do want to drink a lot of it.

          1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

            I pretty much grew up on Guinness Extra Stout and I like my beer as black and bitter as it gets. But I also drink cheap pilsners if that's what the budget will allow for. I've never actually purchased Bud Light because it is neither good nor cheap. Keystone will do the job just as well for a lot less. Pisses me off because I really wanted to boycott this crap. Oh well.

    3. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

      What's funny is if they had done this in June nobody would care because it would be one more virtue signal in a sea of empty virtue signals. Instead they chose to attack their customer base and everyone adjacent to them in an off period with maximum exposure (March madness) and it appears to be sustaining itself across their parent company brands into their busy season. Good job Bud Light.

  35. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/MythinformedMKE/status/1654102934685138945?t=H3bA992BRB_PvTKWYHlxAQ&s=19

    LOL

    [Video]

    1. Cyto   2 years ago

      An absolute classic

      1. Nardz   2 years ago

        https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1653831085875253249?t=dN3U2l5HadNfgbohJ96NHw&s=19

        Putin Retaliates For Assassination Attempt By Misgendering Admiral Levine

        1. mad.casual   2 years ago

          L.M.F.A.O.

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago

      In that same thread:
      https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1653885152471252994?s=20

      Matt Walsh @MattWalshBlog
      He also loved to harass, threaten, and assault people, which is why he’d been arrested 44 times

      NY Working Families Party @NYWFP · May 3
      Jordan Neely loved to dance and perform.

      On Tuesday, while suffering a mental health crisis, he was choked to death while people watched and cheered.

      Jordan needed care. Instead, he was brutally murdered. This is not who we are as New Yorkers.

      Readers added context they thought people might want to know
      A video showing the altercation has no apparent cheering and shows multiple bystanders trying to restrain Neely after witnesses claim Neely was erratic and verbally aggressive.

      nypost.com/2023/05/02/sho…

      washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/05…

      Weird how, seemingly, the identical pattern of fact omission, elevation of irrelevant facts, and blatant confabulation go into the produce highly-analogous-if-no-identical algorithm(s) that generate Reason's Bleeding Heart Libertarianism narrative as the [checks source] New York Working Families Party's narrative.

      1. Super Scary   2 years ago

        There was a short period of time where I thought there were two separate incidents of a white guy choking a black guy on a NY subway train. I kept seeing pictures of the one guy getting choked and then people would post about the Michael Jackson impersonator and they didn't look anything alike.

        Turns out almost all of those pictures of him dancing around are years and years old.

  36. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Debasing oneself.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/05/04/why-do-scientists-keep-pandering-to-gender-ideology/

    A dangerous strain of utopian thinking has taken hold of the ‘progressive’ left. Many now share the delusion that if we pretend certain falsehoods are true, then various forms of oppression and bigotry will magically disappear. Worse still, the proponents of these falsehoods demand their unequivocal affirmation from the rest of us.

    The latest scientific institution to promote gender pseudoscience is the once-venerable "Scientific American" magazine, which this week published an article headlined ‘Here’s why human sex is not binary’.

    Make no mistake, sex in human beings really is binary and immutable. There are few things more emphatically true in our scientific understanding of the world than the human sex binary. Human beings cannot change their sex – we are either male or female, as determined by which type of gametes our biology is organised to produce (sperm or eggs). These are observable, testable scientific facts. And this objective truth matters in very real and consequential ways – to our society, to law, to healthcare and to the safety of women and children.

    Trans ideologues will often attempt to muddy the water on the binary nature of human sex by pointing to the existence of ‘intersex’ people. They presumably do so in the hope that most people don’t know what ‘intersex’ means. Far from describing a half-man, half-woman hybrid, ‘intersex’ is actually an umbrella term that refers to a plethora of conditions, differences and disorders in sex development. These conditions actually prove the existence of the sex binary, as most of them are exclusive to males or females. For example, Klinefelter Syndrome, where boys are born with an extra X chromosome, is specific to biological males. Meanwhile, Turner Syndrome, which results in girls having just one normal X chromosome, only affects biological females. In any case, discussions around intersex people have no real relevance to the trans debate. They are a red herring. Most people who identify as trans are not intersex and there is no doubt as to which side of the sex binary they belong.

    When activists demand that we reject scientific facts and engage in magical thinking, their movement then strays into the realm of theocracy. How odd that so many scientists have embraced these new faith-based claims.

    1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      COVID was the final nail in the coffin for the 'scientific community' (not all scientists, but their major representative groups AMA, APA, etc) having any true independent, scientific basis.

      They have merged with the govt and big pharma. Research supporting govt and big pharma will be greenlit, and will find overwhelming evidence that govt and big pharma were in fact correct and you should listen to govt, and buy/inject new big pharma product. Research to the contrary will be underfunded or not greenlit, and will be labeled as conspiracy theory horse medicine.

      We have regressed back to the days of the church determining what science is good and correct. It was a nice enlightenment, while we had it.

      1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        Drama much?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Cite?

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago

      For example, Klinefelter Syndrome, where boys are born with an extra X chromosome, is specific to biological males. Meanwhile, Turner Syndrome, which results in girls having just one normal X chromosome, only affects biological females.

      Iteratively and essentially across the upper 'half' (conservatively) of the animal kingdom, if not all of life. The vast majority of vertebrates don't switch from male to female at all. Of the fraction that do, they switch between male and female and as the result of empirical external stimulus, and not from (e.g.) XX/XY or Z0/ZZ to XLGBTQIA+ or ZLGBTQIA+ as the result of psychological whimsy. The only organisms generally able to whimsically recombine chromosomal material in such a broad, ad hoc, fractionally and multiply permutative fashion within an organism's own lifespan are microbes and pathogens. Even then, it's more generally the result of exogenous manipulation and straightforward replication is the overwhelming norm. Evolution and genetics from common ancestry and selective breeding predating Darwin by thousands of years to punctuated equilibrium, CRISPR, and beyond utterly disintegrate without it.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Scientific American is neither.

    4. SRG   2 years ago

      Scientific American has declined considerably over the last few years. I was an occasional reader of it going back to the days when Martin Gardner wrote the recreational maths column, though later I subscribed to New Scientist in preference. When I looked at it recently, it had lost much of the scientific rigour of prior times.

      However, this comment in criticism " sex in human beings really is binary" is unscientific bullshit. He mentions Klinefelter syndrome and Turner syndrome but, for example, ignores AIS - where presumably he would have to concede that someone can look 100% female including having a vagina and female breasts but lacks female genitalia and has a male genotype - though given the rest of the article it's possible he'd beg the question by saying that the presence of a Y chromosome means "male" and the absence means "female", ignoring phenotypes, and other issues, e.g., that the mental awareness of one's own sex is not invariably linked to physical sex and that there are physical differences in the brains - see https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8955456/ for actual research as opposed to popularised advocacy (from either side)

      1. damikesc   2 years ago

        Exceptions to the rule do not change the rule.

        Some people are missing a leg. Does not mean 2 legs is not the rule for humans.

  37. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Miami over Chicago.

    https://www.illinoispolicy.org/second-big-investment-firm-may-leave-chicago-for-miami/

    One of Chicago’s largest financial services firms, Guggenheim Partners, is expected to move its headquarters to Miami and become the sixth large company to leave Illinois in the past 12 months.

    Industry insiders said Guggenheim Partners CEO Mark Walter is expected to follow Citadel CEO Ken Griffin and relocate to Miami after recent reports found the company was quietly reducing operations in the Windy City. It formerly had about 1,000 employees in Chicago.

    The company’s spokesperson would not comment on whether the headquarters was moved to Miami, which business unit remains in Chicago or how many are still working in the West Loop office. Sources familiar with the matter told Crain’s Chicago Business the decision to relocate outside Chicago was prompted by the city’s high taxes and a rise in crime downtown.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      *Reason Panel muses on why anyone would ever move to Florida... it's like the worst place possible with the worst governor in America*

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago

        Fleeing the MAGA-hat-wearing goons that strung up Jussie Smollett.

      2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        Please link to anyone at Reason making such a statement.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Sarcasm and snark are truly lost upon the desert of your feeble mental capacities and capabilities there, Laursen.

          1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

            Except it wasn't snark. it was the Reason [comedy] panel in NYC.

            1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

              Mike makes me miss Tim Cavanaugh:

              Nobody Said "Stimulus 2." The Words "Stimulus" and "Two" Have Not Been Said In That Order By Anybody.

            2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Those are still lost on him, regardless. Mike also has no clue how to use a search engine.

        2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago (edited)

          Boom.

          1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

            Nobody said "why would anyone ever move to Florida", nobody said "its the worst place possible", nobody said it has the "worst governor in America".

            So, this is just another instance of DON'T TALK ABOUT DESANTIS!!!

            1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

              Mike makes me miss Tim Cavanaugh:

              Nobody Said “Stimulus 2.” The Words “Stimulus” and “Two” Have Not Been Said In That Order By Anybody.

              1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

                Not going to apologize for pointing out your frequent disingenuous and misleading comments.

                1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                  Oh fuck, more straight up lying from the king of disingenuous and misleading comments himself.

                2. DesigNate   2 years ago

                  Your lack of ability to connect the dots on revealed preferences says a lot.

            2. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Wow. The level of simping is off the charts.

            3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Nice try, sealion, but no raw fish for you.

        3. Dillinger   2 years ago

          Suderman said it out loud.

          1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

            Suderman uttered criticisms of DeSantis out loud, which Diane/Paul then exaggerated and attributed to the entire Reason panel.

            If I recall correctly, Suderman, who grew up in Florida, already expressed his distaste for the Sunshine State long before DeSantis came along. (And, no, I don't have a cite.)

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Regardless, oh ye of the low wattage mind, the words were indeed said.

            2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

              Name one school or business I personally walked up to and put a chain on the door, stood in front of with my arms closed and said, "This business is closed due to covid"

              1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                Comment posted in the wrong place?

      3. Super Scary   2 years ago

        "*Reason Panel muses on why anyone would ever move to Florida… it’s like the worst place possible with the worst governor in America*"

        It'll also be underwater in 10 years! Why would anyone want to move there?

  38. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Punishing the responsible.

    https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_9ce7c830-e8fa-11ed-b83b-93cba6afb9c5.html

    The latest in a series of new Biden administration rule changes that charge higher fees to certain home buyers with good credit and lower fees for buyers with worse credit went into effect this week despite pushback from Republicans and many financial experts.

    Critics argue the changes, which increase Loan-Level Price Adjustment fees for mortgage borrowers with higher credit scores and decrease fees for those with worse credit, amount to penalizing those with good credit to help those with bad credit in the name of equity.

    The loan-level price adjustment is a fee assessed after bankers evaluate the risk of lending them money, and the change potentially costs the affected borrowers with better credit thousands of dollars.

    The change applies only to certain loans backed by Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. A chart from the Urban institute shows that those with credit scores of 680 or higher and with down payments between 5% and 20% will pay higher fees while borrowers with down payments of less than 5% will pay smaller fees, regardless of credit scores.

    1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

      Damn. Is there nothing they won’t do to try and slow down this awesome Brandon economy?

  39. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    President Nero.

    https://nypost.com/2023/05/03/biden-plays-debt-limit-games-as-the-us-fisc-burns/

    President Biden is still playing irresponsible political games on the debt limit.

    Yes, he’s finally agreed to meet with Speaker Kevin McCarthy, setting talks with him (and Senate leaders Chuck Schumer and Mitch McConnell) — but not ’til next Tuesday.

    Truth is, Biden’s never had an economic policy beyond handouts to his friends and punishments for his enemies; slimy retail politics have always supplanted any strategy.

    If he plays with fire on this long enough, we’re all going to get burned.

    1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      I think moments after the Nashville shooting (the tranny one, where the lefty tranny shot up the Christian school...not found on Reason.com) Biden was giving a 'press conference' of sorts where he went on for a while about delicious ice cream, and how he has a freezer full of it in his room upstairs!

      If only Nero had access to such delicious treats when he needed a break from his fiddlin

      1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        not found on Reason.com

        https://reason.com/2023/03/27/the-problems-with-just-getting-guns-out-of-peoples-hands-as-a-solution-to-gun-violence/

        1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

          Missed this one. Ya, literally the ONLY mention on reason is 1 single sentence that there was, in fact, a shooting in Nashville (with literally zero other details), and a link to another site that covered it (in a lefty propagandistic fashion)....

          As always, another own goal from one of our resident lefties.

          1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

            Yet somehow you know all about the shooting. It’s almost like Reason isn’t a newspaper.

  40. Bubba Jones   2 years ago

    Ok, but facebook is social cancer and AI will destroy us all.

  41. Sevo   2 years ago

    "Court upholds California’s AR-15 ban in first ruling since new Supreme Court standards"
    https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/california-ar15-ban-18074641.php?cmpid=gsa-sfgate-result

    "...shall not be infringed..." unless some judge emotes: "...are weapons “not typically possessed by law-abiding citizens for lawful purposes.”..."
    Good reason to ban them, right there!

    1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      Benitez's decision is all that will matter. Quote from the article.

  42. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    EU backs Dutch Bullshit.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/eu-backs-controversial-dutch-plans-shut-down-farms-bid-reduce-nitrogen-emissions

    The European Commission on May 2 approved a plan by the Dutch government that would compensate livestock farmers in certain areas if they agree to voluntarily close their farms as part of the Netherlands’ efforts to reduce nitrogen pollution.

    Under the new “schemes,” dubbed LBV and LBV plus, farmers will need to agree to shut down their production capacity definitively and irreversibly and not start the same breeding activity elsewhere in the Netherlands—the second-largest agricultural exporter in the world—or anywhere else within the European Union.

    Tuesday’s news release did not state what will happen to farmers who do not agree to voluntarily give up their lands.

    “The whole idea of the EU was supposed to be about freedom of movement and freedom of workers. This is some next-level USSR stuff,” Vlaardingerbroek added.

    1. damikesc   2 years ago

      We will miss eating globally.

      Might need to kill environmentalists. ALL of them. They are going to kill you if you do not do so.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Nobody needs 23 kinds of food. Or even 23 servings of food, per month.

        1. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

          They've mostly solved obesity in North Korea so why shouldn't the world follow that shining thought leader on solving the world's problems?

      2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        "Might need to kill environmentalists. ALL of them."

        Well, there's environmental groups doing good work like Duck's Unlimited or Mossy Earth, and then there's the Climate Cultists trying to kill everyone. The former are laudable, but the latter are dangerous and should be treated as such.

      3. perlmonger   2 years ago

        I think you're probably right. They could be plowed under as fertilizer.

    2. Cyto   2 years ago

      Please note the scariest part.... they don't just want the farm.

      They require the farmers to quit farming as well. Also forever.

    3. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      “The whole idea of the EU was supposed to be about freedom of movement and freedom of workers. This is some next-level USSR stuff,” Vlaardingerbroek added.

      Wrong. It was always about "USSR stuff." The "freedom of movement and freedom of workers" was just the lie they used to dupe useful idiots into going along with their shit.

      1. damikesc   2 years ago

        Yeah, Europeans, for reasons unknown to me, trusted their government to not do the one thing every government in the history of man has done --- increase their power.

  43. Nobartium   2 years ago

    toward a new class of bills that specifically restrict the content of curricula, including majors, minors, and general education.

    A totally normal set of laws then.

    Spoiler alert, when the state is paying for education, they set the rules. But never will it occur to ENB that separating the two might work.

    1. Cyto   2 years ago

      I could totally get behind a state university system banning the "studies" departments and degrees.

      The point of a state run university is to provide a trained workforce for the state, making it a better place to live.

      I cannot see a world in which these studies majors have made the world a better place, nor do I see how minting thousands of women's studies majors and PhDs in Intersectional gender studies to man the counter at Starbucks is in any way helpful.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago (edited)

        nor do I see how minting thousands of women’s studies majors and PhDs in Intersectional gender studies to man the counter at Starbucks is in any way helpful.

        You ignore the massive growth and power of the Human Resources Department at your peril. Everyone mocked graduates of these University areas of study as being unemployable. The joke was on us. They were eminently employable and have carved out quite a niche for themselves.

        1. perlmonger   2 years ago

          And like the death cult greens, they'll need to go.

  44. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    "Courts have long recognized that reporters are entitled to engage in legal and ordinary news-gathering activities without fear of tort liability — as these actions are at the very core of protected First Amendment activity," Reed wrote.

    Heh...

  45. damikesc   2 years ago

    DC jurors did as expected and decided to sentence the Proud Boys with seditious conspiracy, in spite of the lack of any evidence of an attempt to overthrow anything.

    Why not just federalize a few plots of land and just send DC off to Maryland and remove any semblance of their self-governance? They cannot handle it.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Don't forget the novel idea of an unspoken conspiracy to do so. No overt evidence exists, but prosecutors hired some mentalist to determine the minds of PB members committing said unspoken conspiracy.

  46. Cyto   2 years ago

    It is odd to watch academia intentionally conflate sex with sex-associated modes of behavior and presentation.

    An effeminate man is still a man. And a butch woman is still a woman.

    Somehow the "how I want to be treated" slogan of "Trans women ARE women" became an immutable scientific fact. I am pretty sure the original point was not that men can menstruate, but rather that they found having everything labeled as "not a woman" was offensive and made their existence more difficult. So, "stop calling me trans woman and just say woman, please". Which sounds like a reasonable desire, if we are walking down that road together.

    But the activists went with "men who menstruate" and then quickly on to not being able to say woman any more and having to say "people with uteruses" if you want to talk reproductive health.

    I think we got here entirely because the political provocateurs can't turn it off once they get theelir marching orders.

    And this is really backfiring for them. The moms in our group run the political gamut. And they are openly angry about this stuff now. They are all over there on the "this is insulting to women" side, and we have Mulveny to thank for it. They grumbled at Lia Thomas.... quietly... but this one is different. They feel like it is mocking them and it torques them off.

    I wonder how much longer the machine can keep pushing these stories?

    1. damikesc   2 years ago

      They should be very offended, especially since Dylan is simply an actor with a burning desire for fame.

    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      They grumbled at Lia Thomas…. quietly… but this one is different. They feel like it is mocking them and it torques them off.

      Don't tell them to look at the Bud Light ad, have them look at the Nike Sports bra ad. If I identified as were a woman, that would have me organizing a 50,000 woman march on Nike headquarters with my pussy hat.

      1. Cyto   2 years ago

        Or the Tampax ad

    3. TrickyVic (old school)   2 years ago

      It's gender identity. Identity being the key word. It's not science. Science doesn't care about your choices or how you identify. It's generally not appreciated when you point that out.

      1. rbike   2 years ago

        SRG proves you wrong above. Sex is definitely not binary. It is "Science"

    4. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      There are so many strange layers to this whole cultural spasm that it's hard to even quantify them all, let alone talk about them in one grand narrative. But one of the weirdest, and least talked about aspects to this whole thing is... ignoring the stupidity and anti-science nature of the debate, why is every prominent "trans person" a "trans woman"? Where the "trans men" standing on podiums, receiving medals for sports victories, where are all the multi-million dollar endorsement deals, where are all the fawning stunning-and-brave stories and press coverage, where are the commercials, where are all the public officials promoted to prominent high office?

    5. SRG   2 years ago

      But if as an adult your brain tells you you're a man and your body tells you you're a woman, what are you supposed to do or claim to be?

      Some people here, it seems, would conclude that either you're lying or you should be therapied until you agree to the "right" answer - akin to attempts to cure people of homosexuality, I think.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Does your body speak to you shrike. Is it telling you to hurt others right now?

        1. SRG   2 years ago

          Fuck off, cracker. Still not shrike.

      2. damikesc   2 years ago

        As an adult, I could give two shits what you do. But Lia Thomas is not a woman. He is a man with a fetish of being mistaken for a woman. If an adult said they were a pony, I would not care if they decided to grow their hair to look like a mane. But I would not refer to them as a damned horse. Humoring delusions is cruel.

  47. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Governments worldwide trying to destroy freedom of speech.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/world-cusp-woke-totalitarianism-governments-act-end-freedom-speech

    Authored by Michael Shellenberger and Alex Gutentag via 'Public' substack,

    Media blackout as politicians in EU, US, UK, Brazil, Ireland, Canada, and Australia seek to jail citizens for wrongthink under the cover of a Big Lie about "hate speech"...

    In Ireland, for example, the government may soon be able to imprison citizens simply for possessing material that officials decide is “hateful.” Under the RESTRICT Act in the US, the government may soon have the authority to monitor the Internet activity of any American deemed a security risk.

    Governments aim for total control. In Canada, a state agency can filter and manipulate what Canadians see online. In Australia, a single government official can compel social media companies to remove posts.

    Governments and allied NGOs intend to force tech companies to comply with their rules. UK lawmakers have threatened to imprison social media managers who don’t censor enough content. And Brazil has introduced severe penalties for platforms that fail to remove “fake news.”

    The key area of action is the European Union. It is seeking sweeping new powers to regulate social media companies. And if it acts, it may change how social media companies operate worldwide, given the EU’s economic power and influence globally.

    We are thus witnessing the emergence of a governmental apparatus with the power to control the information environment in ways that determine what people believe to be true and what is false.

    What’s happening now appears to represent the re-grouping of censorship advocacy that occurred after that defeat. With some notable exceptions, the demand for censorship is being driven by center-Left parties, with NGOs playing a subservient role.

    The election of Biden, the failure of the Department of Homeland Security’s “Disinformation Governance Board,” and the release of the Twitter Files all appear to have forced censorship advocacy to move from the U.S. to other nations, particularly Europe, in order to censor Americans and the rest of the world through the back door.

    We believe elites have overreached. If they felt secure in their censorship agenda, they wouldn’t be hiding and rushing it through legislatures worldwide or trying to sneak censorship on the U.S. through the European Union.

  48. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Erasing the past.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/obsession-sweeping-away-past-highly-destructive-civilization

    When I was growing up in the 1990s, amidst all the exuberance of the American unipolar moment, I certainly thought I lived in a civilization, and an advanced one at that.

    But, in the West, so much seems to have gone wrong since that moment.

    Disaster in Iraq, Rwanda, and the Balkans should have disturbed western complacency, but didn’t. Neither did the damage done by neoliberal economics, hyper-globalization, outsourcing, and the de-industrialization of the West.

    The Western obsession with sweeping away the past is highly peculiar, of course, and it is also highly destructive.

    The Western obsession with revolutionary change and novelty grew out of the Age of Discovery, matured throughout the Reformation and Enlightenment, and ossified into an ideology in the early 20th century. The ideological part was the work of Italian poet and art critic Filippo Tommaso Marinetti, whose “Futurist Manifesto” appeared in 1909.

    Marinetti urged the total repudiation of the past and the rapid acceleration of technological and social changes. He worshiped the alleged beauty of speed. He hated museums, praised war as a form of hygiene, and wanted to see ancient cities utterly destroyed.

    In Italy, the Futurists turned Fascist. They were Bolsheviks in Russia, and Nazis elsewhere. They all agreed with Marinetti’s vision: progress meant repudiating and destroying the past. In the fascist utopia, the state would serve only the strong. Communism would usher in the dictatorship of the proletariat. Nazism reimagined the Marxist class struggle as a conflict among races, and envisioned the end point of history as the thousand-year Reich. These Golden Ages all lay ahead, owing nothing to history. And, as Marinetti seemed to foresee, they would take shape amidst obscene destruction and murder.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      Marinetti urged the total repudiation of the past and the rapid acceleration of technological and social changes. He worshiped the alleged beauty of speed. He hated museums, praised war as a form of hygiene, and wanted to see ancient cities utterly destroyed.

      Move fast and break things

    2. Dillinger   2 years ago

      so some turn of the century bored out of his skull Italian is responsible for French chicks gluing themselves to the wall at the Rembrandt display 113 years later. love it.

    3. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      Marinetti urged the total repudiation of the past and the rapid acceleration of technological and social changes.

      "Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."

  49. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Motherfucking snakes carried on a motherfucking plane.

    https://nypost.com/2023/05/04/customs-officials-discover-22-snakes-in-airline-passengers-baggage/

    Chennai Customs said they intercepted a female passenger with dozens of snakes in her check-in baggage.

    The woman was arriving from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, attempting to smuggle 22 snakes of various species and sizes, officials said. A chameleon was also seized.

  50. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

    Reason 2023: “Khan compared our current stage of A.I. to the early days of social media platforms like Facebook—a platform the FTC has repeatedly taken aim at.”

    Reason 2043: “Good Samaritan blocking and screening of offensive intelligence is the 1A of AI.”

    Reason 2048: “Largely absent from the arguments against regulating AI was any acknowledgment that these are private companies that, as it turns out, the government was pressuring those companies to do some of the very exclusions and misinformation peddling that the government promised to avoid.”

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      I was trying to spin a comment on this very line... thanks.

    2. Dillinger   2 years ago

      nice.

    3. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Funny because it's true.

  51. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    • TikTok is raising eyebrows after suspending the account of the Acton Institute after the think tank shared clips from a documentary about Hong Kong pro-democracy activist Jimmy Lai.

    Reason awaiting the Tik Tok files before making a judgement?

    1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      What is your complaint exactly? You are quoting from a Reason post making everyone aware of what happened.

  52. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>(In New York, there are 62 supreme courts—one for each county—while the highest court is called the Court of Appeals.)

    as a feminist I believe even a woman can mansplain 🙂

  53. Dillinger   2 years ago

    that crazy communist Khan lady shouldn't be allowed within 50 miles of our government what's she doing running FTC?

  54. sarcasmic   2 years ago

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12047245/Proud-Boys-leader-three-guilty-seditious-conspiracy-Jan-6-riot.html

    Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio and three other members are found guilty of seditious conspiracy over January 6 riot - and they now face a maximum of 20 years in prison
    Proud Boys Enrique Tarrio, Ethan Nordean, Joseph Biggs and Zachary Rehl were all found guilty of the charges after they broke into the Capitol
    The jury in Washington D.C. could not reach a verdict against a fifth man, Dominic Pezzola
    Prosecutors say the groups were intent on keeping Democrat Joe Biden out of the White House at all costs

    Nardz and Sevo have a cry.

    1. Dillinger   2 years ago

      the Capitol Police should open their prison doors for them too.

      1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        The jury was rigged. It's the only explanation.

        1. Dillinger   2 years ago

          if the jury was rigged they would have skated.

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            But dude, they were peaceful tourists. They never did nor meant any harm. Totally peaceful. Peaceful. They were peaceful. And tourists. Touristy peaceful. Peacefully tourist. Yeah.

            1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

              Fallback position: "OK, they were mostly peaceful, but ... oh look over there, lefty protestors have done similar things!"

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                Leftists did it more and worse, and weren't prosecuted. That means the J6 peaceful tourists who were just peaceful tourists shouldn't face any consequences for being peaceful tourists. It's not fair. Not fair. Not fair! Not Fair! NOT FAIR! NOT FAIR! NOT FAIR!

                1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                  Leftist rioters: Often wear masks and hoodies, beat up people who try to take video of them in the act of rioting, don't post their own pictures and videos showing their faces on social media.

                  January 6th rioters: Don't wear masks, post photos and videos of themselves to social media.

                  January 6th rioter apologists: Why aren't they arresting lefty rioters like they are arrresting our rioters!!!

                  1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                    Ummmm.....

                    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Libertarians for 2 tiered justice I guess.

                      Don't point out to MIke that even those convicted of things like Arson got zero jail time.

                  2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

                    They deserve to be jailed for being bad at crime?

                  3. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    The best part of the conversation between the two true libertarians are how uninterested you are in the charges or evidence. You just blindly accept the results as it agrees with your prior biases. Read up on the case, see if you still agree with the outcome.

            2. Dillinger   2 years ago

              the entire system was set up against them whether they were peaceful tourists or not. if the jury was rigged, they would have skated.

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                The fact that they were peaceful tourists means the jury had to be rigged or it would have dismissed charges since being a peaceful tourist isn't a crime.

                1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                  Pretty much. Even though the video's are now available you've refused to watch them because they shatter your narrative and make you look even more petty and retarded.

                  Sarcasm only work when what you're mocking is self-evidently false, troll-boy.

                2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  Tarrio wasn't even in D.C.

                  How do you know so little about everything you defend.

            3. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Only one of the PB members was ever charged with any violent act. Tarrio wasn't even in D.C. dummy.

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago

          By the way. This comment is now bookmarked anytime you try to claim any conviction anywhere was wrong. Death row threads? Jury decided, no issue. You are now a full statist who believes the outcome of every trial, even when evidence of prosecutorial misconduct arises.

          So thanks again!

      2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        They got off easy. According to the comments everyone involved has been sentenced to life without trial.

      3. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        Yeah, here's a video of the January 6th rioters entering through those open doors:

        https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/06/jim-himes-inside-washington-dc-protest-congress-electoral-college-vpx.cnn

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          Those were the Antifa infiltrators and FBI agent provocateurs.

          Everyone else was a peaceful tourist.

          1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

            "Everyone else was a peaceful tourist."

            Pretty much.

            https://www.nbcnews.com/video/protesters-enter-capitol-building-in-unprecedented-security-breach-98938949628

            But you won't acknowledge this because your narrative.

            1. SRG   2 years ago

              How many entrances were there?

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                That's what she said.

              2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                2. one was opened by the police, no violence was on that side, they were still charged.

                Were you trying to make a point to justify Government authoritarian shrike?

                1. SRG   2 years ago

                  Fuck off, cracker. Still not shrike.

                  Are you going to lie and tell us that the entrance that St. Ashlee was martyred at was actually wide open and was peacefully entered?

                  I love these insurrectionist fanboi arguments, "most of the demonstration was peaceful so it was all peaceful", "a few doors were open so all were open", "only a few demonstrators were cirminals so no-one was a criminal", etc.

                  As far as 2 entrances are concerned, you're lying again:

                  https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2021-10-04/jan-6-rioters-exploited-little-known-capitol-weak-spots-a-handful-of-unreinforced-windows

                  1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    Ashley wasn't murdered at one of the entrances shrike. She was inside the building.

                    There was the West tunnel and the eastern entrance. The one on the east has footage of non riots or any damage/violence at all, but video from the day shows Police opening the doors.

                    Your gotcha is windows? LOL.

                    But please keep defending this shrike.

                    1. SRG   2 years ago

                      I'll accept the correction about St Ashlee, but when rioters use windows to enter a building, they have made those windows into entrances. And it's a strange defence to deny any wrongdoing while accepting that these "decent law-abiding white folk just like you" broke through windows to enter the building.

                      Still not shrike, btw, you cracker POS.

                    2. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

                      No, windows don’t magically become entrances. Just like a hole in a roof doesn’t magically become an entrance. They are just windows and roofs with holes in them. Yes one can enter a whole, but they don't magically become entrances as designed. Just like a fence with a gate. One would call the gate the entrance, not the fence because someone can hop over it. Stop with the stupidity.

                      Where did I ever defend anyone causing damage? I have in fact said they should be charged for vandalism. They should not face 20 years, be held in solitary, receive no bail, etc however. The problem is less than 20% of those the DoJ are going after have been cited for a violent act. The vast majority committed no violence or damage. Yet you defend the actions against them.

                      I know you rely on strawman arguments shrike. I try to rely on facts. Something you are devoid of.

                      Shrike doeth protest too much.

        2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

          Oh god, a video. No thanks.

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Hey, another government over-reaction for you to celebrate while claiming to be a libertarian. If you were actually one you'd look into the evidence presented by the prosecution at trial and realize how messed up this was. Dependent on determining an unspoken conspiracy, planting evidence on Tarrio, sending CIs into the defense team, up to 30 CIs.

      But you're a true libertarian so I'm sure you're against those things.

  55. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12045439/Emma-Stone-snuggles-Mickey-Mouse-day-family-Disney-World-Florida.html

    Emma Stone keeps it casual in jeans and crop top as she snuggles up to Mickey Mouse during a day at Disney World in Florida

    Obviously a leftist. Only leftists go to Disney World in Florida. Yep, definitely a leftist.

    1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      ? This confuses me. Does anyone care about this actress?

      1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        The act of going to Disney World is a direct attack on DeSantis. This means she's a leftist and all of her work must be boycotted.

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          "Obviously a leftist. Only leftists go to Disney World in Florida. Yep, definitely a leftist. The act of going to Disney World is a direct attack on DeSantis. This means she’s a leftist and all of her work must be boycotted."

          Remember folks, Sarcasmic doesn't deliberately try to troll and start shit here, he's just an innocent lamb and you're all mean girls for punching back.

      2. Dillinger   2 years ago

        Karen Gillian is on the same page so was worth the click lol

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          Best Doctor Who companion. Ever.

          1. Dillinger   2 years ago

            Leela and Clara rank.

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              At least you didn't say Donna or Rose. I'd have had to find out where you live so I could slap you.

              1. Dillinger   2 years ago

                Batgirl and Leela started me down Redhead Lane and I never looked back lol

                1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                  Amy's Scottish brogue was a lot of her appeal. Hope Karen doesn't lose it.

                2. SRG   2 years ago

                  Yvonne Craig. 'Nuff said.

              2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                You'd threaten him and run away as usual.

              3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                And what's wrong with Donna? You don't like combative snark?

            2. SRG   2 years ago

              Yes, I was a fan of Leela - and her attire. But Karen Gillan/Pond was peak Companion. Adding to that, I guessed correctly that a lot of female Dr Who fans would not be fans of hers. They seem to prefer the "safe" Clara.

              The first Companion, Carol Anne Ford/Foreman, was very tasty, though at the time I was too young to appreciate her obvious charms. And yes, I watched the first ever episode at first time of broadcasting 🙂

              I also appreciated Freema Agyeman/Dr Jones - who, according to an actor friend who was in an episode with her, was a pleasure to work with.

              1. Dillinger   2 years ago

                >> I watched the first ever episode at first time of broadcasting

                love it.

      3. mad.casual   2 years ago

        I care about her shirt. Both sides equally (but really the left more than the right) even!

  56. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/lordstown-motors-electric-vehicles-bankruptcy-mary-barra-donald-trump-539d1e7b?mod=opinion_lead_pos1

    Trump Picked an EV Loser in Lordstown MotorsThe electric truck maker won’t be the last casualty of the new government industrial policy.

    Oh my God IT’S DIFFERENT WHEN TRUMP DOES IT! Fucking TDS sufferers just don’t get it. When Trump and Biden do the exact same thing Trump is good and Biden is bad. Judge the person’s politics, not their actions. Fucking fuck. When will people get it?

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      No, it's not different when Trump does it. You're really spending a lot of your time and energy arguing with people in your head.

      1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        That explains why when Reason or myself was critical of his industrial policy there was a chorus of "TDS! Leftist!" from the comments.

        Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure. Whatever you say.

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          Remember folks, Sarcasmic doesn’t deliberately try to troll and start shit here, he’s just an innocent lamb and you’re all mean girls for punching back.

          1. Dakotian   2 years ago

            A while back i tried to make the point to Sarcasmic that lots of other people see his comments. People who have no idea that there is a some feud between commenters on Reason. This is not some private chat room that only members see. I can't imagine he comes across well to "normies".

            1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

              Do you provide such advice to JesseAz, Sevo, RMac, Nardz, Mother’s Lament, Diane/Paul, InsaneTrollLogic, Idaho Bob, Tulpa about how their behavior here might be perceived by normies?

              1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

                Dammit! Missed another list!

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Cite?

    2. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      ...you attempting to prove you dont have TDS is like a schizophrenic in SF proving they dont have mental health problems by loudly shreeking and flinging their shit around.

      Just so you are aware. Sometimes you get so far down a rabbit hole you forget what it feels like on the surface

      1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        I just like pointing out the cognitive dissonance in the folks, you know who you are, who praised Biden's economic policies when Trump was doing them.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Cite an example.

      2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

        DON'T TALK ABOUT TRUMP!!!

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Then address your own TDS first.

  57. Unicorn Abattoir   2 years ago

    "a new class of bills that specifically restrict the content of curricula, including majors, minors, and general education."

    We MUST allow the teaching of voodoo shamanism in med schools!

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Another exciting excerpt from "The Libertarian Case For Ice Pick Lobotomies"!

  58. Liberty Lover   2 years ago

    New York is a interesting place. Anyone and everyone can sue Trump for anything, but Trump can's sue anyone for anything.

  59. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

    I'll bet they can if they're sore from sex change surgery.

  60. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    There's another, older term that still seems to work: conservationist.

  61. SRG   2 years ago

    And you too can fuck right off. It's not a serious question, you lying POS.

  62. rbike   2 years ago

    Yes it is. Your claim that bodies speak to people and control people is pure science. Right?

  63. Overt   2 years ago

    When I cook Sunday dinner, the stove is on pretty much from noon until 7pm. I understand though that not every household is the same. But I do think Bill's rating is low. I think 1 - 1.9kWh per day is probably the right middle ground between bachelors making ramen and italian cucinas.

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