Abortion Rights Advocates Ask DOJ To Defend Section 230
While "the 26 words that created the internet" have been under fire from both sides, two groups argue that the 1996 law is essential to the future of abortion rights.

A case on the Supreme Court's docket could spell the end of Section 230, a law that has benefited websites and online platforms for decades. In a letter last week, two center-left organizations asked the Department of Justice (DOJ) to come to the law's defense.
The law stems from a pair of court decisions from the mid-90s, when the consumer internet was in its infancy. Taken together, the cases established that if any website moderates user-generated content, it's therefore responsible for all user content, whereas it can avoid all liability if it makes no moderation decisions whatsoever. Seeing an incentive against moderation as antithetical to the internet's potential growth, two then-congressmen drafted a law that would absolve online platforms of liability for most user-generated content. That law became known as Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, sometimes called "the 26 words that created the internet" because of how its straightforward applicability allowed the nascent web to grow and flourish.
Section 230 has received its share of criticism: During his administration, former President Donald Trump and his allies routinely threatened to modify or simply repeal it. Democrats have also been quite critical, with President Joe Biden saying in September that Congress should "get rid of special immunity for social media companies" and "hold social media platforms accountable for spreading hate and fueling violence."
Early next year, the Supreme Court will consider whether Section 230 also applies to recommendations made by a platform's algorithms. The case, Gonzalez v. Google, stems from a 2015 ISIS attack and claims that YouTube's recommendation algorithm helped the terror group spread its message by recommending its videos. Section 230 may grant platforms immunity from user-generated content, the suit argues, but what if the platform then recommends that content to other users?
Last week, a letter jointly signed by the Chamber of Progress, a center-left technology industry group, and Advocates for Youth, a D.C.-based sexual health advocacy nonprofit, encouraged Attorney General Merrick Garland to "submit a brief in support of defendants" on behalf of the DOJ. The defendant is Google, owner of YouTube, which the Chamber of Progress lists as one of its "corporate partners."
Earlier this year, the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade (1973), which had guaranteed abortion access for nearly 50 years. In its wake, many states moved to ban the practice, with some potential bans including websites that provide information on abortion.
In that context, the letter says that Section 230 allows platforms to host content without fear of violating state laws. In fact, Section 230 strengthens a platform's First Amendment protections against litigation or prosecution over its moderation decisions by making it more difficult to bring such cases in the first place. In an influential case soon after its passage, the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals decided that "lawsuits seeking to hold [an online] service provider liable" for moderation decisions "are barred."
"Without Section 230," the letter worries, "online services might be compelled to limit access to reproductive resources, for fear of violating various state anti-abortion laws."
That same hypothetical applies to any number of issues. This is exactly what the law's supporters have said: In a return to a pre-Section 230 world of either moderate everything or moderate nothing, most platforms will simply err on the side of moderation and take down any content that anyone objects to. It's likely that most decisions not to take down content would ultimately be sanctioned under the First Amendment anyway, but it won't be worth the hassle to deal with an assemblage of meritless lawsuits.
Any weakening of Section 230 would only serve to make things more difficult for both platforms and their users.
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"Without Section 230," the letter worries, "online services might be compelled to limit access to reproductive resources, for fear of violating various state anti-abortion laws."
WTF. Do these people believe Scotus wouldn't strike down any state compelling suppression of speech? Pure hokum.
And yet people still want to do away with Section 230, which would thus directly limit online speech. If you are a website you would be directly liable for every post and comment made to it, if you did not explicitly moderate each and every post. Sleep in late Saturday morning and miss one and you are criminally liable.
People on both sides (both sides!) want to get rid of Section 230 so that the government can directly control speech online. By banning speech they don't like. Either speech that makes Biden sad, or speech that makes DeSantis sad. Or because some platform gives MAGA heads a forum, or because another platform gives Wokists a platform.
Keep online speech free. Don't touch Section 230 except to further strengthen it.
Yes, this! And while we're at it, add a Section 230 for hardcopy rags as well! No more stupid deep-pockets-seeking lawsuits blaming the local rag for letters to the editor, that the paper did NOT write!
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"want to get rid of Section 230 so that the government can directly control speech online."
The government has already been caught controlling speech online under the cover of 230's Good Samaritan clause.
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Irrational. Getting rid of 230 allows free speech. These orgs want to censor anyone against abortion.
Section 230 has received its share of criticism: During his administration, former President Donald Trump and his allies routinely threatened to modify or simply repeal it. Democrats have also been quite critical, with President Joe Biden saying in September that Congress should "get rid of special immunity for social media companies" and "hold social media platforms accountable for spreading hate and fueling violence."
Trump wanted to get rid of it out of pure vanity, while Biden wants to get rid of it to turn the Internet into Pravda. I suppose Trump is less-bad in that regard.
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We must support the right of 'private' companies to ban any speech the federal govt wants banned, and any excuse will do.
Wait until President DeSantis pushes for bans on pro-abortion advocates and Reason does a 180 degree flip on this.
Reason has always supported free speech and Section 230. Plain and simple! Where is your evidence to the contrary?
They said mean things about Trump. Being that there are only two political choices, left and right, when someone is mean to your team that means they support the other team.
That's why progressives say libertarians are hardcore conservatives and conservatives say libertarians are hardcore progressives.
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Pass. Same with tequila. Too much tails in the distillation. Gives me a headache worse than taking Mother's Lament off mute.
By the way, has he posted any links to the threads where you can mute "sarcasmic" and it mutes other handles, but not this one, proving this account wasn't impersonating others? No? Figured as much. That would require honesty.
So then you're apparently saying that if a person has many-many handles (socks), but they all come from the same IP address, muting ONE sock mutes them ALL? I guess that would be a sensible way to design it... Now I will have to buy or access 50 separate PCs for my regular account plus my 49 socks!!! Government Almighty DAMN it all to HELL!!!
Not IP. Account. Unless you pay extra for a dedicated IP, your address changes every time you log on. Your ISP owns a block of IP addresses. It assigns them as people log on and releases them when people log off. Kind of like fractional reserve banking.
A few months back there were two “sarcasmic”s posting. I used the technique to make sure I was talking to the real one.
Cite?
"The 26 words that created the internet"
Wait, I thought Al Gore created the internet?
Also there's a good reason for ending 230. Here's the relevant text, see if you can find the problem:
"any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected; or"
The problem is with "...whether or not such material is constitutionally protected..." Constitutionally protected speech is always constitutionally protected!!! THIS is what gives me a right to barge into a church or a private party or private house or privately-owned web site and YELL WHATEVER I WANT TO! As loudly as I want to, whether I am welcome, or not!
(According to power-pig assholes, that is, at least.)
"The problem is with “…whether or not such material is constitutionally protected…”
Correct, you get a gold star.
"THIS is what gives me a right to barge into a church or a private party or private house or privately-owned web site and YELL WHATEVER I WANT TO!"
And now you get a dunce cap. Let me spell this out for you: Congress cannot make a law that allows for the violation of Constitutional protected rights.
So then I ASSume that I will NOT be evicted from YOUR house, at YOUR next cocktail party, for barging, uninvited, into YOUR house, to scream political slogans LOUDLY, that YOU disagree with? This is my cunts-tits-tuition-ally granted free-speech RIGHT to do this, right?
(I'm glad that you agree. Now what's your address, and WHEN is your next cocktail party?)
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"Without Section 230," the letter worries, "online services might be compelled to limit access to reproductive resources, for fear of violating various state anti-abortion laws."
[Pulls out political dog-whistle decoder ring]:
"Without section 230, adult men living in their mother's basement won't have access to Russian brides."
I'm becoming more and more convinced that, section 230 really is just an elaborate logic troll meant to bring an end to Western Society.
"The Big Lie" will bring an end to Western Society ass we know it... By thwarting democracy, and bringing on the mobocracy and the One-Party State!
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Don't start the celebrations just yet. I suspect that abortion rights advocates only want to defend Section 230 in the context of abortion laws and not more generally when "disinformation" they disapprove of - like climate change or COVID vaacines - is being considered. "Oh, that's a different thing," they would say.
Free speech all around! Tell ALL of the lies that you want to! Listeners ARE smart enough, eventually, to tell the difference between truth and lies.
Bring ON the lies! Mature and smart people can deal with them! With WORDS, and not with force!
(Libel and slander ARE real "things". Legal remedies should exist for those, but be held strictly in check. But YOUR lie is that ALL of us "free speech advocates" are totally biased, politically. And THAT is a LIE, flat out!)
Free speech all around! Tell ALL of the lies that you want to! Listeners ARE smart enough, eventually, to tell the difference between truth and lies.
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Then explain flat-earthers , Sarah Palin, and corporate personhood, eh ?
Then let them suffer from their stupid! We can NOT save people (who are bound and determined to be stupid and-or evil) from their own stupid and-or evil. They need to save themselves; NOT our job!
Flat earthers are pulling everyone’s legs. Corporate personhood is widely misunderstood and makes more sense once you know how it really works.
Sarah Palin I cannot explain.
I suspect that abortion rights advocates only want to defend Section 230 in the context of abortion laws and not more generally when “disinformation” they disapprove of – like climate change or COVID vaacines – is being considered. “Oh, that’s a different thing,” they would say.
You suspect? Forget "disinformation" the specific protection's aimed at commerce and free association, not speech. In that context, order a working replica of a gun invented before the internet or even chemical birth control or even electricity and indoor plumbing and see about getting delivered to your home no questions asked.
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They should be allowed 230 protection as long as their "moderation" is reasonable and not viewpoint based (this is analogous to allowable government restrictions on speech). But that's the rub. Left tech companies, which are essentially all of them except (now) Twitter, specifically want viewpoint moderation. Hence the conflict.
None of this addresses the issue before the Supreme Court. Section 230 only protects sites from liability from 3d party content. If they post their own content, they can be liable.
Recommendations are in the grey area -- they refer to 3d party content, but the site itself is speaking -- "go there, you'll like it." The sites are probably going to lose, but that does not mean Section 230 is going away.
Agreed. I’m a staunch supporter of Section 230, but that doesn’t mean I automatically consider recommendation algorithms to be liability free.
I'm curious how Wikipedia is free from liability given that they list themselves as the author for every single piece there. Seems immaterial if somebody else wrote it --- if the site takes full credit for all of it, seems they should be liable for all of it.
Their TOU says “Please be aware that you are legally responsible for all of your contributions, edits, and re-use of Wikimedia content under the laws of the United States of America and other applicable laws (which may include the laws where you live or where you view or edit content).”
Section 230, as written, only protects companies if they DON’T censor people. All these advocates are speaking for companies that speak against the First Amendment. If a company like Google or Facebook censors people solely for espousing a point of view contrary to that company leadership, they should NOT have legal immunity. By their logic, the phone company should be able to disconnect you for what they say over your cell phone. Section 230 should stay but only companies actually adhere to what it says.
“Section 230, as written, only protects companies if they DON’T censor people.”
That just plain is not so.
It provides a limited safe harbor for certain sorts of moderation. There’s a list of grounds for moderation, which ends with, “or otherwise objectionable”.
There’s a very strong argument that, by normal standards of statutory interpretation, to be “otherwise objectionable” the moderated content has to be of a like nature to the other items in the list: “obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing”.
Otherwise, you render those terms redundant, because the clause is being interpreted as allowing platforms to moderate on any basis whatsoever, which the statutory language clearly did not intend.
The sort of censorship the platforms have been engaged in doesn’t comport with this interpretation of the list. Not remotely. So it arguably is outside the safe harbor.
I'd add that Section 230 ALSO contemplates cooperation by platforms with third party filter software, explicitly so. And some of the platforms actively work to thwart such software, and so arguably are in violation of it on that ground, too.
There is not a list of “grounds for moderation”. There is a list of types of moderation that the provider will not be held liable for. And nowhere does it say that it is a comprehensive list.
Here is the exact text:
No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be held liable on account of—
(A) any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected; or
(B) any action taken to enable or make available to information content providers or others the technical means to restrict access to material described in paragraph (1).[1]
A law “contemplates”?
It clearly says in part b of the text I just quoted that they can provide moderation tech to others, NOT that they have to allow others’ moderation tech.
Section 230, as written, only protects companies if they DON’T censor people.
Flatly incorrect in both letter and spirit. The section is titled 'protection for blocking and screening'. If it were as indicated, it would be titled 'protection for failure or refusal to block and screen'. The contemporaneous statements about the law and the case law it was intended to remediate, again by contemporaneous claim by the people who passed the act, clearly demonstrate the protection is to be extended to facilitate the blocking and screening.
Well, lessee here, Matt Welch called for the repeal of the communications decency act, which has a couple of hundred sections, one of which is section 230.
So... what is it, Reason, keep it or leave it? Make up your fucking minds.