Trolls Will Be Trolls, Online and Offline, Reports New Study
Being jerks is just the way some people try to make themselves feel dominant.

If you're a troll online, you are most likely also a troll offline, at least with respect to political discussions, reports new research published in the American Political Science Review. In their study, Aarhus University researchers Alexander Bor and Michael Bang Petersen investigate what they call the "mismatch hypothesis." Do mismatches between human psychology, evolved to navigate life in small social groups, and novel features of online environments, such as anonymity, rapid text-based responses, combined with the absence of moderating face-to-face social cues, change behavior for the worse in impersonal online political discussions?
No, conclude the authors. "Instead, hostile political discussions are the result of status-driven individuals who are drawn to politics and are equally hostile both online and offline," they report. However, they also find that online political discussions may tend to feel more hostile because the greater connectivity and permanence of various Internet discussion platforms make trolls much more visible online than offline.
Bor and Petersen arrive at these conclusions after conducting eight different surveys and experiments involving more than 8,000 participants in the U.S. and Denmark. Among other things, the researchers asked respondents in several studies if in the past 30 days they had posted or shared political content or comments online that had gotten flagged or deleted for violating the site's guidelines, that they later regretted or felt ashamed of, or that could be taken as offensive or aggressive? In another study, they asked respondents if in text-based online political discussions in the past 30 days they had made fun of their political opponents, posted comments that others may find hurtful, or bullied others for their political views or actions. Respondents were also asked if they had made similar comments in face-to-face political discussions in the past 30 days.
The researchers then asked how often respondents talked about politics or public affairs face-to-face and on the Internet with family and friends, co-workers and acquaintances, strangers, people who agree with them, and people who don't. Seeking to find out who does and does not engage in hostile political discussions, earlier research has identified keenness to talk politics with the personality traits associated with status-driven risk-taking. Bor and Petersen note that "recent research finds that status-seeking (both at the individual and the group-level) is a strong empirical predictor of support for and engagement in aggression, even violence for a political cause around the world."
To probe how this personality trait affects online and offline political discussions, respondents were asked to rank on a 7-point scale how much they agreed or disagreed with such statements as "I would enjoy being a famous and powerful person, even if it meant a high risk of assassination," and "I would rather live as an average person in a safe place than live as a rich and powerful person in a dangerous place." Another survey probed for aggressive tendencies by asking respondents to rank on a 7-point scale how much they agreed or disagreed with statements such as, "I am even-tempered," or "when people annoy me I tell them what I think of them."
Parsing the data from their studies, Bor and Petersen report no significant differences between online and offline political hostility. They find that people who are status-driven and hostile in online political discussions are pretty much just as hostile offline. "Our results indicate" according to the researchers, that aggression in both online and offline political discussions by people who score high for status-driven risk-seeking "is not an accident triggered by unfortunate circumstances, but a strategy they employ to get what they want including a feeling of status and dominance in online networks." They add, "online political hostility reflects status-driven individuals' deliberate intentions to participate in political discussions and offend others both in online or offline contexts."
Bor and Petersen acknowledge that many folks do perceive online political discourse as being significantly more hostile than offline discussions. Seeking to account for this "hostility gap," the researchers asked respondents how often they experienced or witnessed someone else being insulted or offended in political conversations face-to-face and on the Internet. Both U.S. and Danish participants reported observing lots more hostile behavior in political discussions toward third parties online than in real life. Consequently, the authors conclude:
"…the perception that online discussions are more hostile than offline discussions is simply because people witness a much larger number of discussions online as they browse through their feeds on social media. Given this, they perceive – without any bias – a much larger number of encounters where the discussants are hostile with each other or at the expense of "absent" third parties or groups. To put it bluntly, people might also be faced with significant offline hostility, if they were able to monitor all the private chats at parties, bars and dinner tables about, for example, minority groups. Thus, despite common concerns about the negative effects of online echo chambers, perceptions of online hostility may be exacerbated by the publicity and fluidity of these discussion environments."
In other words, hostile individuals can generally troll just a few hundred people offline with their belligerent political views, but "in large online discussion networks, the actions of these individuals are highly visible, especially compared to more private offline settings."
If these results stand up, the good news is that the Internet does not tempt normal people to become more vicious in political arguments, but the bad news is that it makes the obnoxious views of intractably hostile posters more visible.
Bor and Petersen worry that continued exposure to hostile messages online will erode the norms of civility in political discussions thus "propelling more hostility through a vicious cycle." The upshot is if you don't want to make Internet debates more uselessly bellicose: Don't feed the trolls.
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You should know asshole
The real fake Mike Laursen does a subpar job of trolling Ken.
Cite?
I like it when people comment on their articles and explain all the ways the tranny author is a complete fraud.
The best way is to ignore them, or you are being a troll yourself and filling up comment sections with pointless garbage. Or whatever. I've decided it's better to mostly avoid that mess and it's not too hard to scroll on by. I still think it's weird how much energy some seem to put into being shitty to near strangers on the internet, but I'm obviously not going to change that.
+1
So you don’t appreciate my humor specifically, or you don’t want humor at all?
It seems like there are many people up here that would fit the definition of a troll. Last line reads 'don't feed the trolls', but that's not easily understood.
I miss Tulpa.
She's here in the comments, posting as a sock.
oh i'm sure. the performance art was more entertaining before the flag feature
That’s why I still haven’t flagged anyone.
No one gets flagged or muted, my scroll wheel works.
word.
This was true maybe a decade ago, so, yeah.
Right there in these comments replying to my posts below.
"It all about meeee! Pay attention to meeee!"
I'm still the me who's nicer to you lol.
I can tell the difference. 🙂
You've literally admitted to being a troll both offline and online... yet see yourself as a victim. Strange behavior.
I was listening to a clinical psychologist talking the other day. He said something interesting. I'll paraphrase:
"Male anti-social behavior generally presents itself violently. There is a body of research on female anti-social behavior, but few people talk about it. Female anti-social behavior presents itself as 'reputation destruction'... which scales nicely on the internet".
So JesseAz, R Mac, Sevo, buckleup, Mother's Lament and company are all women?
That makes a lot of sense.
I knew you'd come running in to pretend you're the victim and never the perpetrator.
“and company”
So, like, another dozen commentators besides us?
Yeah, everyone else is the problem.
"Everyone else is the asshole, it's never poor sarcasmic's fault"
When Ken and Soldiermedic have to block you, it's time to realize you have a problem, sarcasmic.
Ken used to be a rational conservative, but now he has turned into an emotional TEAM RED cheerleader. It's really sad. The election broke him.
Or maybe Ken's right and you're just a troll who couldn't stand for it.
He even has Overt and others now commenting on his behavior. It's literally everyone but him, shrike, Jeff, and WK and his many socks.
Now tell us soldiermedic’s an asshole sarc.
You're an asshole. Ken is an asshat. soldiermedic has always been civilized.
Scratch that. Ken isn't an asshat. He's not stupid or boorish. He's just, I don't know. He's lost all objectivity and become a mouthpiece for the Republican Party. Poor guy.
I know. You hate when people bad mouth the open authoritarianism of the left. But you promise you aren't of the left. It is quite strange.
“He’s just, I don’t know.”
Are you pretending to be a 13 year old girl again?
Was that around the time you turned into a Bidette cheerleader?
Have him blocked too. Stop feeding the trolls.
It's a badge of honor to block someone who points out the logic in someone's own words. Can't have that. Words mean whatever feels right, not what they actually say.
LOL
Wow, your comments post over here when you type them WAY over at Glibertarians. Must be a natural phenomena, like an echo.
Nah, everyone involved is an asshole. And I don't exclude myself on the rare occasion I decide to be shitty to someone.
+1. For awhile in 2020 I tried to push a more civilized tone. In the end I felt like I had been wrestling with golem for the Ring. In the end, I had ended up more likely to shift into petty nonsense than the comments getting any better.
I think it would be interesting to see how many people on this board were legitimately willing to apologize for something they said- not in the "I'm sorry you feel that way" style, but "I realize now that I was behaving in a way I regret".
I did just a week or two ago, on a internet/social media article, to Jeffersons Ghost.
It happens.
But I'm not going to apologize for being unless I think being a dick wasn't warranted.
And then there are a few posters here who deserve nothing but contempt.
*apologize for being a dick
Another dozen trolls, yes. There are a few adults here who I have conversations with.
You're not one of them.
Another lie from sarc. We had a whole conversation on yummy sandwiches just earlier today!
That wasn't a conversation. That was you accusing me of stuff and me pointing out that you're a retard.
But you did just recently post about Cuban sandwiches and that you hadn’t known about them. I just find that weird since you’re an experienced cook.
Waffle House only has so many menu items.
He was a “chef” at a Taco Bell Express. But when they expanded to a full blown Taco Bell, he couldn’t keep up with the menu.
To be honest I did work in a food court one summer. It was kinda fun. Free expresso and lots of cute girls. Can't complain about that.
God, you were a creep even at a young age.
I assumed sarc was in his 30’s that summer.
I never worked somewhere that served them. Big deal.
Oh. The only way to know about one of the most common sandwiches in the world is to have worked at a place that served them. Makes total sense.
You literally lied about crap in yesterday morning's roundup and I even posted your statement proving you lied.
This morning's roundups you justified burning people's steaks as a cook because they didn't order it the way you wanted them to.
You're a troll buddy.
The adults: Jeff, WK, Shrike.... oh you mean the leftists you don't support even though you do?
Hey, the Troll is one of the first ones in to troll!! And still can't be funny.
While Nardz with his constant calls to murder is definitely male.
Nardz has never called for murder, he recommends suicide. But expecting honesty from sarcasmic is a fool's errand.
Daily reminder that sarcasmic is always the troll:
sarcasmic
August.12.2021 at 4:45 pm
I only show up to watch the clowns duke it out, while tossing in this or that provocation. Bread and circuses. This is a circus.
https://reason.com/2021/08/12/cdc-took-mistaken-data-on-delta-variant-transmissibility-from-a-new-york-times-infographic/#comment-9044167
Please post that on all my comments! Pretty please! Because that's the only true statement I ever said, and spamming all my posts is a mark of maturity!
POST IT! EVERYWHERE! NOW!
Okay.
Lol, posting proof from you're own mouth that you're a shitposting troll really infuriates you, huh.
Sarc mad.
Please. Seriously. All it does is draw attention to me and make you look like a child. So please. Spam me. All day long.
All it does is draw attention to me
Then you should be delighted because you're the biggest attention whore to ever drunkenly stumble into this place.
"So please. Spam me
Posting relevant quotes of you trolling, is never spamming no matter how hard you pretend otherwise.
But be assured. I will definitely continue to post it every single time I catch you trolling from now on.
Go for it. I do find it funny that you're calling me a troll, when all you do is hurl insults at people. But sure, if it makes you feel good about yourself, do it.
Thing is, if I am indeed a troll and don't mean anything that I say, why is that post suddenly my only truthful statement? Maybe it was as true as the rest of what I post.
Sorry, didn't mean to make you think. I know you're not very good at that.
"Thing is, if I am indeed a troll and don’t mean anything that I say, why is that post suddenly my only truthful statement?"
You're not going to convince anyone with that level of middle-school sophistry.
And below I'll never convince you that " sarcasmic" isn't me. Doesn't fit the narrative, so it can't be true. No possible way could you admit I was telling the truth when I said someone was impersonating me.
So believe what you want to believe. Don't you ever let facts get in the way.
You get caught in lies all the time. Lying is a part of trolling. Seems pretty honest. You got caught in one just yesterday.
So please. Spam me. All day long.
I read that as 'Spank me.', which I thought summed up sarc perfectly.
Upon reading it correctly, the guy calling attention to his attention whoring is even better.
Mother's Lament posted a link to someone impersonating me and talking shit, insists that it was really me even though I can prove it was not, and I'm wrong for pointing it out.
In other words you don't give a fuck about the truth. All you care about is virtue signaling.
Pathetic.
Were you "hacked" again?
It's really pathetic considering who you are trying to impress. You'd rather suck up to the trolls than admit that someone made an effort to impersonate me. You'd rather believe that the impersonator was me than admit that your judgment is based upon lies. Not that I'm surprised.
I feel like you’re up to a couple dozen people that are the trolls, still not you.
Some people comfort the afflicted, and that is a useful function.
Some people afflict the excessively-comfortable-with-themselves, and that is a useful function also.
Sarcasmic afflicts the comfortable from time to time, without way-excessive, empty-headed, stupid insults, like others constantly do around here. For that, I commend Sarcasmic!
(MarxistMammaBahnFuhrer can kiss my grits!)
Um..... Thanks?
Sqrlsy afflicts the afflicted and comforts the comfortable.
Also, wasn't it proven that you're one of sarcasmic's trolling sockpuppets?
https://reason.com/2020/11/16/i-won-the-election-tweets-trump-as-legal-losses-stack-up/#comment-8587318
I'm glad you pointed that out.
Highlight the name on that post. " sarcasmic"
Notice that there's a leading space.
Highlight my name. "sarcasmic"
No leading space.
That right there is someone impersonating me.
So thanks for saving a link of someone going through the trouble of impersonating me to ruin my reputation.
I'm much obliged.
I'm sure if you dig around that time period you'll find lots of posts by " sarcasmic" that people attribute to me.
But I was just making stuff up and being a crybaby when I said people were impersonating me, right?? It was all in my head.
Keep on believing that. It's so much easier than acknowledging the truth, which you will NEVER do.
But I was just making stuff up and being a crybaby when I said people were impersonating me, right?? It was all in my head.
Wow, it's not even 5pm and you're this obliterated. Well, looks like I have another great sarcasmic quote to post.
So you didn't highlight the name on the link you posted.
I would have been shocked if you did.
Seriously though, keep digging those up.
It's great when you post something I supposedly said and I can prove it wasn't me.
It's like you're taking the wind out of your own sails.
Keep it up! Please!
This is the part where an honest person would say "Gee sarc, you're right. Someone indeed impersonated you."
Will anyone here do that?
Nope.
Poor sarc.
Nobody's "impersonating" you sarcasmic.
You're just drunk again.
So you didn't highlight the name on the post that you linked to.
As I said, I would have been shocked if you did.
Seriously, please dig up more posts like that.
The few honest people on here might click them, highlight the name, see it wasn't me, and then stop believing your lies.
I'm going to save a link to this exchange, to show how you're a liar who isn't interested in the truth.
Thanks!
Here we go!
https://reason.com/2021/09/08/trolls-will-be-trolls-online-and-offline-reports-new-study/#comment-9090129
Mother's Lament posts a link to someone impersonating me, and refuses to acknowledge it.
Why? Because Mother’s Lament, JesseAz, R Mac, Sevo, buckleup and friends are allergic to honesty.
I wasn't someone "impersonating" you. It was you.
Time to be a big boy and take responsibility for your own bullshit.
Why would I run a "sarcasmic" and then run an additional " sarcasmic" account?
Nobody would.
But seriously, please keep posting links to " sarcasmic" talking shit.
It shows how you're a dishonest piece of shit.
POST MORE!!!!!
Why would I run a "sarcasmic" and then run an additional " sarcasmic" account?
Nobody would.
But seriously, please keep posting links to " sarcasmic" talking shit.
It shows how you're a dishonest piece of shit.
POST MORE!!!!!
The 5 o'clock somewhere should only be a saying in sarc's case.
LOL, there’s the infamous “ The White Knight” HO2 comments. You can identify quite a few trolls by their continued reference to them, even though they know they were not made by The White Knight: JesseAz, R Mac, The usual gang of knuckleheads.
Dee getting cawt posting shit and being cawed out for it is not trolling.
Why do people get off on being mean? Guess that's why I never fit in with the cool kids.
What nonsense. You spent six months defending your stance before you finally lit on this "I was hacked" excuse.
Anyway, a month ago you were pretending your White Knight sock was a different person, but know your acknowledging it as you again?
You're such a clownshow.
Mike Laursen
July.31.2021 at 12:03 pm
White Knight pointed out, correctly, that you are very logical, but quite unaware that you often engage in not seeking out information that goes against your narratives, garbage-in/garbage-out logic, and not checking your conclusions for basic sanity. You should have listened to White Knight.
https://reason.com/2021/07/31/americas-cross-partisan-dalliance-with-eugenics/#comment-9022210
I was never hacked. That's when someone gains access to your account.
This was some imposter shit-posting using " sarcasmic" as their name.
You linked to it yourself.
You're posting proof that someone pretended to me, and still insisting that I'm the one running socks?
What a joke.
That post resulted in a cawcawphony of laughter.
I figure it's like the bully who you find out that their dad was a bully. But I really don't know.
Sarcasmic is literally in this thread being mean to people and crying about people being mean. Wow.
It is like the person that argues in bad faith and you find out that their father also argued in bad faith. Sock puppets and all.
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In https://reason.com/2021/03/21/why-we-still-shouldnt-censor-misinformation/#comment-8818090 Mamma fesses to her being an identity-thief and sock!
chemjeff radical individualist
March.21.2021 at 4:27 pm
Uh oh, I think you left your sock on.
Reply
1. SQRLSY 0ne
March.21.2021 at 5:06 pm
Yeah, sigh.
Hey MammaryBahnFuhrer, Expert Christian Theologian! Did Jesus appear to You in a vision, and tell You that ID theft is a GREAT, wonderful thing? Or ARE You Jesus, returned to us, maybe?
No, but Buddha told me your a shitposting troll.
In fact, you're a type of troll that the study missed out on.
A type that's purpose is solely disruption. No originality, just reams of gibberish and copypasta generated to make the continuation of conversation impossible.
Continuation of conversation is already impossible for and with total trolls like you! You don't know the meaning of conversation as opposed to trolling!
Kinda funny when Mother's Lament posts a link to POSITIVE TRUTH that we're the same person, and inadvertently posts a link that proves someone was fraudulently posting nasty shit in my name.
But he'll still maintain that we're the same person, even after posting evidence that someone else pretended to be me.
I picture him putting his fingers in his ears and yelling "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LA LA LA!!!"
Ok, Captain Conundrum, who am I abusing?
Show me on the doll.
Ken and soldiermedic to name a few.
I abused them? OMG! Too funny!
You followed Ken around like a dumb puppy calling him right wing because he dared attack the left. This after you keep crying about not being for the left despite going into any thread of criticism against Conservatives and laying out hyperbolic strawman arguments to crap all over the thread.
You're a troll. Own it buddy.
Yes, you harassed them, sarcasmic, and it got so bad they both blocked you.
And it wasn't funny. It was creepy as hell.
Why am I reading that last paragraph in Jordan Peterson's voice?
Because it's from him. I believe an interview Danica Patrick did of him.
The 'burn it all down, destroy life, livelihood, reputation, chance of employment by all and any means' tendency to which some, perhaps many women and many progressives seem to adhere. It receives detailed apologia: one can get a new job, find another school, rebuild a reputation. All of which is absolute horseshit for most folks; women will deliberately choose the most harmful, painful and destructive method of attack, it will not typically be to the recipient's face, and if they are confronted or the attack is reciprocated, they plead victimhood. Ask a woman who isn't a cultish feminist about her experiences with women, it will support this.
I think Ron is mad at us.
He did used to post responses in the comments…
Yeah people became too assholish in the comments.
The Reason commentariat of a decade ago was a beautiful thing. Today... not sure much.
Bye.
The Reason comments section of a decade ago received multiple subpoenas regarding multiple woodchipper posts.
Meh, I was here a decade ago. It was probably more of an echo chamber so there was arguably less invective. Now, for what it's worth, it is... in my opinion less of an echo chamber so there's a lot more to disagree about.
We also had Mike Hihn then blathering on about the Christian caliphate.
moar bold!
It's still an echo chamber. Just different people yelling.
It’s still an echo chamber. Just different people yelling.
Different people calling out your gaslighting is not an echo. It is a consensus.
Do you even know what gaslighting means?
You run into threads to deflect whatever criticism of demorats is happening at the moment all the time. You lie about your own statements all the time when called out. You say you aren't of the left but still can't criticize one thing the left has done in almost 2 years. So no, you don't gaslight, you crap all over threads to protect your side.
"Do you even know what gaslighting means?"
Is it like when you call Ken out for his anti-immigration, pro-tariff views that he has literally never had?
No. But thanks for playing.
Nah I had great arguments with Bailey. He is essentially the reason (hah!) I stayed on this site after being linked here. I disagreed with his post in an abortion article, and we had a few rounds of good hearted debate.
We have also argued about carbon taxes and vaccinations in the past. He only stopped posting when Jesse, et al went way over board on him last year on one of his articles critical of the CDC...which is...kind of sad given how Jesse et al feel about the CDC today.
This is why we can't have nice things.
It is noteworthy that when I first got here, I was pretty much a centrist republican. Through a lot of general conversation in these threads, I finally shifted my thoughts to being full libertarian. I have a hard time seeing people doing the same when visiting these comments, but hope is eternal.
I came here sympathetic to libertarianism, but it's been exposed. LP will never get my vote again.
You are no edgelord.
I'm not woke enough it seems
It was more of an echo chamber, but there were fewer trolls and ignorant shitheads, so the trade-off was worth it. H & R comments was more a gripe session than the current 50% fucktardery of dimwits here to troll and try to own the gee oh pee or dirty nasty free market libertarians -mixed with the weird apparent actual nazi sympathizer or 2.
It really was.
No jeffsarc, it was not.
I learned about Bastiat from the commentariat here long time ago.
Now when I quote him I get attacked.
Times have changed.
You get attacked because you are or control multiple socks and you post bullshit.
LOL!
You've attacked me for using Mises and Rothbard. You're such a hypocrite. And you often just drop a Bastiat randomly without any knowledge or idea on how it links to the subject. Then just crap all over the threads and claim you were only repeating Bastiat which was 1% of your posts in a thread.
I know, right? He was so polite when he just suggested that libertarians should support mandatory vaccinations to combat zika. How could anyone think he was anything other than a complete gentleman? We can't just allow assholes to defend other peoples' liberties on the inernet. It's just so... uncouth.
"Yeah people became too assholish in the comments."
Ron's been publishing literal Party line propaganda for at least the past year, and couldn't defend "his" arguments when people pointed out their flaws.
he fucking deserved it for a 2020s' worth of Chicken Little.
I don't know why, we had a deal. He gets to lie and shitpost above the break, and we get to mock it below.
Ron should be mad at some of the positions he takes.
Pretty sure between the arguments for more control to prevent the 'tragedy of the commons', mandatory vaccinations, and calls to return privately-owned land to nature, he hates most of the positions he takes.
Ron's sole saving grace was that he was a "Climate might be a problem, but not a *right now* problem." in a sea of "Climate is a big problem *right now*." reporting. Now that climate, even among the zealous, has taken a backseat to more *right now* problems (and "problems"), Ron's unique advantage is more marginal. There's an additional layer in that he's a science reporter in an era of "Trans women are women, Science!" era.
Hey, screw you, your study, and the horse you rode in on!
And if that's not dominant enough for you, I have even more insults.
Go on…
I feel like this article is destined for a record level comments count.
Maybe we will bailey break the old record.
The Dr said Sarc is fat.
Sarc said he wanted a second opinion
The Dr said " OK, you're ugly, too"
>>they had posted or shared political content or comments online that had gotten flagged
by pussies.
>>> that they later regretted or felt ashamed of
lolwut? no
>> or that could be taken as offensive or aggressive?
see pussies above.
OK, reading the article now...
"They find that people who are status-driven and hostile in online political discussions are pretty much just as hostile offline."
Really? In meatspace I *usually* just nod along to other peoples' political rants. Maybe I fit the stereotype better vis-a-vis in person v. online trolling.
“people who are status-driven”
This would refer to things like bragging about making ghost guns and shooting them at a half-million dollar lake house.
That half-million dollar house boast made me laugh so hard I almost peed.
Every house in my neighborhood is around a half-million and none of them are anything special. Certainly not McMansions or anything.
But do those houses have sausage parties to find out which uppers and lowers fit best together?
Ha!
Any study which purports to study online and offline trolls isn't the least scientific unless it begins with an incredibly detailed inarguable definition of troll; and the more detailed that definition, the narrower it is; and the narrower it is, the less useful it is.
Garbage in, garbage out.
Spoken like a true troll.
Yeah, do you affirm or deny that you're in denial?
How's this in the study? I'm an Individual status-driven to keep my individuality in the face of status-driven nanny's... They say F-You do as I say; and I say F-You period.
I was never political at all until all the nanny's were appropriating my earnings (labor), telling me how to build my house, shutting down my shower water (well-water), demanding I learn CRT to be socially acceptable, etc, etc, etc,,............. Holy Crap it's so endless there isn't a single congressman, president or judge who can keep track of all the nanny-ing going on. They've amassed an entire Nazi-Complex of a nation with thousands getting by by theft to nanny.
In other flaws...
* They seem to think that "comments online that had gotten flagged or deleted for violating the site's guidelines" is somehow only an indication of trollish commenters, not biased guidelines.
* I bet they didn't define "that could be taken as offensive or aggressive" either.
* It's full of self-reported subjective criteria.
What a waste.
If you're a troll online, you are most likely also a troll offline
Kirkland must get the hell beat out of him. A lot.
That's a good thought; I certainly hope so, but I doubt it. Most likely sniveling and whining everywhere else.
Actually when he first showed up he admitted that he grew up in a rural area and spent his childhood being beaten up by bigger, stronger boys. That’s why all the gay revenge fantasies.
You can see clues to this when looking at Facebook, where people still say incredibly inflammatory and insulting things despite no anonymity whatsoever.
This explains a lot! I used to think the WaPo comments attracted an unusually high number of assholes, then I look around where I live and realize that indeed there are mostlu assholes here in the DC area
"Being jerks is just the way some people try to make themselves feel dominant."
Too many to count, but the mute option has been a great help in this regard.
"If you're a dinger online, you are most likely also a dinger offline, at least with respect to political discussions, reports new research published in the American Political Science Review."
How's this for a troll:
This was a result of one of the recipients of the Kamala Harris-supported fund being charged for murder after being bailed out by the MFF.
They haven’t plea bargained that down to a charge of mostly peaceful rioting?
Why should being poor and in jail be an impediment to murder? You right-wingers are just out to destroy the beautiful marxist utopia of progressive crafting.
Based solely on my experience (yours may differ), about 90+% of my online discussions are political in nature. While, probably less than 25% of my offline discussions are political.
If you control for topic of conversation, online discussions are probably no worse (in terms of rudeness), possibly even better, than offline. I find the overall quality of political discussions online light-years ahead of face to face.
You only say this because you're a...what party did you say you were?
/sarc
I threaten to kill far fewer people offline than I do online. If only because if I threaten them offline, they tend to see it coming.
I'm still, to this day, blown away by the number of people who insistently conflate the web with reality.
95% of my online discussions are political. I'm not sure what percentage my offline discussions are. My work interactions which make up a large part of my daily discussions are nearly 0% political. But in my tightknit group of friends a relatively high percentage are political-- or cultural in nature.
When discussions are political outside my tightknit group, the discussions are very polite, because I'm old fashioned and I don't like discussing politics. I believe the world was better off when that was more the norm and I'm willing to defend that position.
As for the 'quality', I might agree that the online discussions are better because there's no demurring or need for a veil of politeness-- and I don't hold back my opinions based on attempting to not offend other interlocutors.
I think what makes online (especially political) discussions better than offline is that it makes it impossible for people to talk over each other, without letting the other guy in a word.
The way online discussions work, you have a comment box; you can't stop the other person from completing their though by typing over them. In offline discussions, you just have to hope the people involved will follow the basic rules of waiting until the other person finishes or take a pause between making their points.
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It is easier not to get murderously angry when the medium is text.
God... going to dinner with OBL must be a nightmare since he’s the biggest asdhole right-wing troll we have here. I’d mention Sevo, but there’s just something adorably sweet about him that I can’t put my finger on.
What're you talking about? OBL is a genius of center left, libertarian politics.
It's hilarious that he came here to confess how on point OBL is with regard to AmSoc's beliefs
Meh, he's boring. He makes the same jokes over and over.
People writing on-topic parody or telling you to stop trolling, aren't trolling, Buttplug.
Reminder to everyone that AmSoc is one of Buttplug's sockpuppets, BTW:
https://reason.com/2021/08/31/americas-longest-war-is-over/#comment-9076679
AmSock hits on Sevo, I expect the response will be worthwhile.
Psychology of internet trolls: They understand what hurts people but simply don't care
Psychological studies show trolls tend to be male, show higher levels of psychopathy traits — low levels of empathy, guilt and responsibility for their actions — and higher levels of sadism traits, the enjoyment of causing others physical and psychological pain.
Trolls don't speak to issues, they try to upset and inflame people. They get their kicks from that. What amazes me is people are still taking the bait. Instead of ignoring the troll, they show he upsets them with a response, giving the troll the thrill they seek. While Reason has become a joke to any real libertarian, I do commend them for the mute user button. I wish more people would figure it out and use it, sending the Trolls on their way.
I'd like to believe the results of this study but their methodology sucks. It relies entirely too much on self-reporting and perceptions of "hostility" and has a notable lack of objective criteria. The authors' conclusions are plausible but cannot be fully defended solely from the evidence that they collected.
Oh NOW lived experience isn't scientifically valid?
I don't think people who are aggressive online are mostly like that in real life. People are assholes in their cars but most people would hesitate to cut in front of you in line for a movie. Distance and separation make for a situation that allows you to ignore social cues.
Penny Arcade the web cartoon said it best, people are fuckwads online because they believe they are anonymous and they have an audience. It's performative. Frankly if you take anything they say seriously that's on you.
Didn’t online “troll” used to be defined as someone who deliberately takes a extreme position and expresses it forcefully just to stir up anger and not because he believes what he is saying? That definition seems to have been dropped lately.
I’ve also seen “troll” used to mean anyone whose opinions are not in line with the majority opinion in a given forum. That definition bothers me because it tries to bully everyone into groupthink.
That definition bothers me because it tries to bully everyone into groupthink.
Even the former definition is exceedingly inclusive of sarcasm, satire, and devil's advocacy.
Whoah! That's a lot of projection, man! You need help!
In movies the guy who goes around calling people "faggot" is always a self-hating, repressed homosexual.
Sometimes “faggot” just means pathetic asshole.
He's right you know.
Hihn was immeasurably more intelligent and mature than kirkland. Full stop. Hihn had a lot of bad days, and was pretty damned annoying, but never hit the level of smug, sanctimonious 'if your betters permit it, prole' oral rape-filled bile that the risibly dishonest and dim whiner does.