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Sedition Cases Against Capitol Rioters 'Will Bear Fruit Very Soon,' Says FBI

Plus: Senators call impeachment trial unconstitutional, Biden cancels private prison contracts, Apple sued over Telegram, and more...


Sedition charges in the works for Capitol rioters. On Tuesday, the Department of Justice announced that it will bring sedition charges against people who stormed the U.S. Capitol on January 6. The punishment for seditious conspiracy is up to 20 years in prison.

So far, the Capitol riot has spawned more than 150 federal cases and more than 50 cases in D.C. court, FBI Assistant Director in Charge Steven D'Antuono said yesterday, adding that the FBI has opened more than 400 subject case files. (Back on January 15, only 42 people faced federal charges.)

As for seditious conspiracy cases: "Yes, we're working on those cases, and I think those results will bear fruit very soon," D'Antuono said.

Calls for sedition charges haven't stopped with people who stormed the Capitol, with some raising the possibility of sedition charges against politicians who spread election fraud conspiracy theories or encouraged people to come to D.C. to protest.

Under federal law, the crime of seditious conspiracy is defined as two or more people conspiring "to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof."

While this might technically apply to some folks involved in the events of January 6, "sedition charges are almost always a terrible idea," cautions Reason's J.D. Tuccille.

"Sedition prosecutions in the U.S. have a particularly shameful history," as Bloomberg's Noah Feldman pointed out last fall in a piece titled "Sedition laws are the last resort of weak governments."

Not only is their historical use full of horror stories, but their very nature makes them ripe for abuse at any time, as a catchall threat against anyone who challenges government policy or criticizes government actions. They can also be used to escalate criminal acts at any protest around the country into a federal case, as former Attorney General William Barr endorsed last year.

Many of the people who stormed the Capitol deserve some charges, and seditious conspiracy might seem as good as any at a glance. But reviving the use of sedition charges like this could backfire against free speech and protests more broadly.

Law professor and blogger Eugene Volokh explains a little bit more about sedition and seditious conspiracy charges:

This is just a special case of the broader proposition that conspiring to commit a crime can itself be a crime. You can be punished under state law for conspiring to commit murder or theft or what have you. You can be punished under federal law for conspiring to commit bank robbery, or to defraud the federal government. Likewise, you can be punished under the "seditious conspiracy" statute for conspiring to illegally oppose the enforcement of the law.

The current federal statute on sedition is, at the very least, much less severe than its historical counterpart:

[Seditious conspiracy] is quite a different statute from the Sedition Act of 1798 (or from the common-law crime of seditious libel), which punished (among other things) false and malicious speech intended to defame the federal government. And to the extent that the seditious conspiracy law punishes agreements to commit crime, which may be expressed by speech, such conspiracy is viewed as constitutionally unprotected, because it is speech integral to the criminal conduct that is being planned. For more on this, see U.S. v. Rahman (2d Cir. 1999).


Republicans declare impeachment trial itself unconstitutional. The majority of GOP senators designating the latest Trump impeachment trial unconstitutional wasn't enough to stop it from moving forward. But its ultimate prospects aren't good. "Lawmakers narrowly killed a Republican effort to dismiss the impeachment charge as unconstitutional," says The New York Times. But the 55–45 vote "strongly suggested that the Senate would not be able to convict the former president." All Democrats plus at least 17 Republican senators need to vote to convict Trump in order for it to happen.


Indiana lawmakers are trying to make it harder for Libertarians to get on ballots. A new measure (House Bill 1134) from state Rep. Ethan Manning (R–Denver) "would require Libertarians to collect signatures of registered voters to run for governor or U.S. Senate. Under current law, Libertarians nominate those offices in a primary convention and are not required to gather signatures required of Republicans and Democrats as part of the primary ballot process," notes The Journal Gazette.

Manning's bill would still allow Libertarians to nominate governor and U.S. Senate candidates via convention but would then also require the nominee to meet the signature requirement, which is 500 registered voters for each of the state's nine congressional districts."

"Rep. Matt Pierce, D-Bloomington, said a cynical person would see it as a bill to punish Libertarians because they did well in the last gubernatorial election, and some believe they siphon votes from Republicans. …

Rep. Cherrish Pryor, D-Indianapolis, said the bill adds more requirements on Libertarians without giving them any new powers or advantages."


Apple and Google sued over Telegram posts. "Here's an interesting lawsuit, brought to you by some familiar names," writes Tim Cushing at Techdirt. "And by 'interesting,' I mean 'exceedingly stupid.'"

Apparently, former U.S. ambassador and Coalition for A Safer Web head Marc Ginsberg is suing Apple over content posted to encrypted messaging app Telegram, which is not affiliated with Apple except insofar as the Telegram app is available through the Apple app store. Ginsberg argues that some Telegram posts and chats are bad, so Apple shouldn't even make Telegram available. More from Cushing:

Ginsberg claims the Telegram app violates Apple's developer guidelines and California's hate speech law and should be removed from the app store. Because Apple hasn't removed the app, it has been downloaded and used by people who engage in anti-Semitic speech. (Ginsberg is Jewish.) Because Telegram refuses to remove this content, it somehow leaks into Ginsberg's life through the app store—even if Ginsberg has never downloaded the app or engaged with its users.

Ginsberg is also suing Google over making Telegram available through the Google Play store.


  • President Joe Biden is canceling the federal government's contracts with private prisons. More details here from Reason's C.J. Ciaramella.

  • Chicago teachers may soon be going on strike. The Chicago Teachers Union "told its members to work from home Wednesday after failing this week to reach an agreement with Chicago Public Schools over reopening conditions, a move that suspends in-person classes that had already resumed and puts the union on the verge of a strike if a deal isn't reached over the next few days," reports the Chicago Sun-Times.
  • Small websites and apps need Section 230, writes the CEO of MeWe, Mark Weinstein, in the Wall Street Journal:

Those who want to get rid of Section 230 say this would stop social networks and websites from unfairly censoring their users' political comments. In reality, it would give them an incentive to censor far more aggressively. To protect themselves from being sued over content, they would remove anything remotely controversial. Users would be spied on constantly.

Ironically, this would help Facebook, Twitter, Google and other social-media giants while hurting smaller companies and new startups.

  • New legislation in California "aims to change expert testimony and forensic evidence legal standards … to make it easier for falsely accused individuals to challenge wrongful convictions," reports Jurist.
  • A new study examines how Americans use their $600 stimulus check money. Households earning under $75,000 are more likely to spend the money relatively quickly, while higher earners are more likely to save the payment.
  • Another Democratic administration, another push to drastically hike the national minimum wage: "House and Senate Democrats on Tuesday reintroduced a bill to raise the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour by 2025, more than doubling the current $7.25 hourly rate," notes Reason's Billy Binion.

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  1. McCabe, Rosenstein, and Comey all knew from the outset that comey would be fired and not due to obstruction. They still opened up Mueller to investigate obstruction based on the firing. They hid exculpatory memos about it.

    1. FBI also hid exculpatory information from the FISA courts in relation to Carter Page as he is on wire denying even knowing the Russians he is being accused of talking with.


        Overall, we rate Just the News Borderline Questionable and Right Biased based on story selection that mostly favors a conservative perspective. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to several failed fact checks over a short period of time.

        JesseBahnFuhrer uses a source which is known to LIE from time to time! What a YUUUUGE surprise!

        1. How cute, sarcasmic switched names out of anger.

          What’s even more funny is that just the news literally has a tab that links all their sources so you can go verify the story yourself.

          But sarcasmic is too stupid and prefers spoon fed narratives from The Atlantic and WaPo.

          1. One must be really simple-minded to thing me and that nutty squirrel are the same person. Do you honestly believe that, or you just trolling like a troll? Never mind. Not like you’ve ever answer honestly. But any honest person can tell we’re different people.

            1. You were caught forgetting to switch names deer.

                1. Look closely at the name. There is a leading space. Highlight it and look character by character. It’s an imposter.

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            2. JesseAz wants to be taken seriously (I guess), yet every day he deploys the “you’re a sock puppet” deflection, proving over and over that he is not a serious debater.

              1. Lol. Says the guy who cloned my name and failed at it as if it was his life.

                1. It was a long time ago, so I don’t remember the details well. Didn’t I openly announce to everyone, “Hey, look, I’m cloning JesseAz’s handle using this technique Tulpa used on me. We should get Reason IT to do something about this.”

                  But then you rarely honestly recap past events.

        2. Never heard of justthenews but who’s this ‘we’ shit? ‘We’ say we never heard of mediabiasfactcheck either.

    2. Can anyone explain why whenever a Democrat is “elected” president, the executive branch is instantly consolidated and weaponized to target the enemies of the Democrat party, but whenever a Republican is elected president, the executive branch is instantly consolidated and weaponized to target the enemies of the Democrat party?

      1. Local story. The deep state is a conspiracy theory and not any threat to free minds and free markets. You are guilty of treason.

      2. Maybe… Just maybe… Poor little sorely-abused trumpanzees gone apeshit should consider going apeshit less often? You know, I noticed that there were NO hillarypanzees gone apeshit in 2016! NO wild hordes of hillarypanzees bashed down the doors of civilization and democracy in 2016!

        1. Other than the fires they set and the immigrant they beat up on inauguration day? Convenient amnesia per chance?


            “Police said six officers were injured in scuffles with protesters.”

            I saw nothing about any breaches of the Capitol. No legislators hiding under desks… No stolen legislator PCs or laptops…

            Now I will find the example data for 2021 for comparison if I can find it easily…

            1. You didn’t specify breaking into the capital just going apeshit. I classify what happened in 2016 as going apeshit. Were those goalposts heavy?

              1. Pick your metric and go find the stats. I did my part…

                Trumpanzees for the win over hillarypanzees! 50+ cops injured v/s 06!

                1. Keep trying to die on that hill. You got called out rather than admit your original thesis was mistaken you keep shifting the goal posts. Now you are comparing severity of going apeshit not rather or not it happened. So you have already admitted defeat.

                  1. I got slovenly the other day when no one was looking, and spit near the sidewalk, in public, in the grass. Is THAT going apeshit? Damned near EVERYTHING is a matter of shades and degrees! I just showed that hillarypanzees gone apeshit (in the example news happening that YOU picked) was a LOT less horrible than the trumpanzees gone apeshit, which this article here above, is about!

                    Where did you move the goalposts now?

                    1. I didn’t. You are the one arguing degrees. Going apeshit is subjective. I already stated admit they went apeshit and then we can argue degrees. Sorry burning, looting and assault is going apeshit and is not spitting on the sidewalk. You are now making excuses for their behavior. A sure sign you know you lost.

                    2. “You are the one arguing degrees.”

                      Yes, I am! And I have clearly shown that Hillarypanzees are nowhere NEAR as deadly as Trumpanzees!

                      Also this, VERY damning evidence!

                      Google searches…
                      “Pro-Trump insurrection” About 1,150,000 results

                      “Pro-Hillary insurrection” 2 results

                      “Pro-Clinton insurrection” No results found for “Pro-Clinton insurrection”.

                      Does that tell us SOMETHING? I mean, BESIDES the distinct possibility that the Lizard People have taken over Google, AND the media?

                    3. The only reason google returns those results is because people used the word insurrection this time, the media that is, and didn’t in 2016. They used resistance then. Same thing. Fuck your argument is getting lamer. Also, when you resort to lizard people you know you have nothing. Now google Hillary resistance and see how many results you get. Resistance also implies insurrection and they proudly used that name, and Hillary called for resistance. They even cosplayed Star Wars and themselves as the Resistance, an armed terrorist group fighting the first order, e.g. an insurrection. They literally named themselves after an armed insurrectionist group. Fuck you are grasping at straws now.

                    4. And the resistance had been going on for four years, whereas the so called Trump insurrection was a one day event. Shall we count the casualties from the Resistance for the last four years, I guarantee it’s higher than that of January 6th.

                    5. “Hillary resistance” About 29,900 results… And they never stormed the capitol, and never carried zip-ties to take legislators hostage. “About 29,900 results” is no-where near “About 1,150,000 results” for Trump insurrection! 1,150,000 / 29,900 = 38, factor of 38! We should fear a Dem insurrection by a factor of 38 less than an “R” insurrection! (I am hoping for an “L” insurrection, but strictly at the ballot box for now! We can always dream, right?)

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            2. But 2016 was a scuffle, not an insurrection.


            More than 50 police officers were hurt at pro-Trump riot at the Capitol that also killed 4

            Trumpanzees for the win over hillarypanzees! 50+ cops injured v/s 06!

            1. Suddenly the shit-muncher is concerned about cop safety.

              1. Trumpanzees clearly feel entitled to go apeshit, with NO regard for officer safety, or the safety of democracy, voting, and peaceful transfers of power! And Red-Rocks-For-Brains defends the trumpanzees, by mocking those who sympathize with the victims of trumpanzees gone apeshit! What a surprise! Barbarians gone apeshit, flock together! Yet ANOTHER huge surprise!

                1. No one is defending. They ar pointing out your hypocrisy and willful ignorance.

                2. The shitmuncher pours one out for cops before he licks the excrement from their boots.

              2. Cite to SQRLSY expressing lack of concern for cop safety?

                1. I’m sorry, White Excrement, I’d have to consider you human in order to consider your rejoinders valid.

                2. So you are copping out of answering.

                  1. No, I’m giving you the disrespect you deserve.

            2. Still going apeshit, no matter the casualty count. And how many innocent drivers died Trump protestors rip out of there car and beat up and destroy their means of business? An immigrant at that. You stated they didn’t go apeshit. I countered with examples of them doing exactly that and you try shifting the goalposts. Hope you didn’t throw your back out moving those heavy goalposts. Fuck you have a room temperature IQ and the debating ability of a 5th grade society girl.

              1. I say again…

                Pick your metric and go find the stats. I did my part…

                Trumpanzees for the win over hillarypanzees! 50+ cops injured v/s 06!

                1. Shifting the goal posts is all you have. Admit you were wrong and then we can discuss severity. Which is objective not subjective.

              2. Also please find me an example of Hillary endorsing political violence, as Trump has done. Offering to pay for thug’s legal bills, for example?


                Trump’s endorsement of violence reaches new level: He may pay legal fees for assault suspect

                1. Find me an example of Trump endorsing political violence.

                    1. Like Harris did, you mean?

                    2. And that isn’t encouraging violence that is offering to pay legal bills after the fact.

                    3. I donated to project innocence once, doesn’t mean I endorsed crime. Just feel everyone should have adequate legal representation. If donating legal fees is endorsing violence we should condemn every pro bono lawyers in the nation.

                    4. Did you read the cited article? From there…

                      At a casino rally in Las Vegas last month, Trump pined for “the old days” when demonstrators would be “carried out on a stretcher, folks.”

                      And plenty more! Trump and the “many good people among them” -type quote about white racists run amok…

                      See more details here!

                      Trump oh-so-generously offered to SELECTIVELY pay for legal defense of VIOLENCE IN SUPPORT OF TRUMP! Did Trump ever pay to defend BLM protestors?

                      Evidence of Trumpian support of Trumpian political violence is pretty overwhelming!

                    5. “And that isn’t encouraging violence that is offering to pay legal bills after the fact.”

                      It kinda is.

                    6. So pro bono lawyers are exciting violence?
                      Was Harris inciting violence?
                      Sqrsly resorts to the much disproven both sides myth I see.

                    7. Well, yes. If you tell violent rioters that when it comes to paying legal fees you’ve got their back, then you are going encouraging more of the same behavior.

                    8. Funny, that isn’t what you said last summer.

                2. “You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about,” Hillary said. “That’s why I believe if we are fortunate enough to win back the House and or the Senate, that’s when civility can start again.”

                  1. I’m not a big fan of Hillary, but I AM glad that SHE at least, supports civility! Unlike Der TrumpfenFuhrer and His Underling, Der JesseBahnFuhrer! I am SOOOO glad that Der TrumpfenFuhrer is no longer our Fuhrer, and I hope that it STAYS that way!

                3. “Never stop believing that fighting for what’s right is worth it. It is, it is worth it,” Hillary Clinton told her base in her concession speech.

                  In her DNC nomination acceptance speech, she urged the audience, “let us gladly join the fight.”

                  Before this election, Hillary Clinton urged Biden not to concede and fight more aggressively.

                  “I loved hearing Joe Biden talking about bringing people together and leading us into the light,” she argued. “But, you know, it’s a battle and fear is really powerful.”

                  1. Google searches…
                    “Pro-Trump insurrection” About 1,150,000 results

                    “Pro-Hillary insurrection” 2 results

                    “Pro-Clinton insurrection” No results found for “Pro-Clinton insurrection”.

                    Does that tell us SOMETHING? I mean, BESIDES the distinct possibility that the Lizard People have taken over Google, AND the media?

                    1. lol – since when do google searches amount to proof of anything and when does absence of evidence prove absence of reality?

                      You’re just too much.

        2. Just because you pretend the riots didn’t happen doesn’t mean the rest of us will.

          November 9–12, 2016, Oakland. November 10, 2016, Portland. January 20, 2017, DC (“DisruptJ20”).

          1. He’ll just move the goalposts and or say the riots weren’t as bad. He has terminal TDS and can’t let it go. On his death bed he will be calling people Trumpanzees and other Sophomoric insults, even if Trump’s been out of office for decades. Some of us have moved on, he never will.

        3. You haven’t seen apeshit, dumbass

          1. I have seen ***YOU*** go apeshit, Nadless Nardzi the Nasty NAZI!

            Hey Nadless Nardzi the Nasty NAZI… You are a Holocaust denier just like Rob Misek! Two peas in a pod, you and Rob Misek are!
            Do you deny what the NAZIs did? Perhaps not, I do not know HOW far your evil goes! You strut in front of a mirror wearing NAZI gear for all I know!

            What I DO know is that you ignore the roots of NAZI, and other, evil, mass-murdering authoritarianism! You, like Hitler and the NAZIs and other evil authoritarians, start out by assuming that YOU know whose life is worthy, and whose is not! Then you move on to sterilization and killing! It all starts out by denying the value of other human lives! And if you can’t or won’t see and acknowledge that, you’re a deluded and EVIL Holocaust denier, same as Rob Misek!

            You and and your fuckbuddy, Shitsy Shitler, also run around telling people to commit suicide! I have NEVER been THAT evil! Nor even THOUGHT about saying that to people! Take stock of your SERIOUSLY FUCKED UP SOUL, Evil One Junior! Start by reading this: M. Scott Peck, the Hope for Healing Human Evil,

            1. From my reading of history, the left is far closer to how Nazis took over than the right ever had come close too. Give it a rest. You are just getting ridiculously redundant. You are a one trick pony. Trump bad, nothing else matters. Sure, we get it. Now brace for your usual nonsensical copy pasta whenever anyone says Trump bad.

              1. “Trump bad, nothing else matters.” Anyone who does NOT adore Trump is a MARXIST, or some such, right?

                Senile Mackerel Snapper Bad?!? He BAD, all right! He SOOO BAD, He be GOOD! He be GREAT! He “Make America Woke”! MAW! All who are against Senile Mackerel Snapper Bad, are into MAWlessness, chaos, badness, and MAW-breaking! They are out-MAWs! MAKE AMERICA WOKE, I say!!!

                We KNOW He can Make America Woke again, because, as a bad-ass politician, He PUNISHED all of the MAW-breakers! He Hair Smeller-Feller in Chief!

                BACK from Beyond the Beyond, Beyond the Grave, it is the MAGA that Wouldn’t Die! MAGA Part II; Make America GREEN Again! The USA flag will now be… Red, White, and GREEN!


                All Hail to THE Hair Smeller in Chief!!! His Punishment Boner is BIGGER than ALL the rest of ours, put together!

                Most of all, HAIL the Chief, for having revoked karma! What comes around, will no longer go around!!! We CAN smell ALL of THEIR hair, and they will NEVER think of smelling OUR hair, right back!

                Senile Mackerel Snapper Bad-Ass Hair-Smeller all right!

                Yes, we can! We CAN smell all the hair, all the time, and NONE will be smart enough to EVER smell our hair right back!

                These voters simply cannot or will not recognize the central illusion of politics… You can hair-smell all of the people some of the time, and you can hair-smell some of the people all of the time, but you cannot hair-smell all of the people all of the time! Sooner or later, karma catches up, and the others will hair-smell you right back!

              2. Wow, you literally invited him to do his copy paste schtick.

                1. And he fell for it like a bluegill for a nightcrawler. Because he is nothing but predictable. And I wasn’t inviting I was simply pointing to how his response anyone says Trump bad is the same stupid routine, which he then proceeded to do. Pavlov’s dog has nothing on Sqrsly.

                  1. OK, it was just kinda masochistic on your part. That’s all.

                2. And dealing of Pavlov’s dog, here you are again defending Sqrsly (up thread), despite the fact that he obviously is shifting the goal posts. All in your mistaken belief that if you aren’t against Trump and give him the benefit of the doubt you must be for him. Lay down with dogs don’t be surprised when you get fleas.

                  1. “Lay down with dogs don’t be surprised when you get fleas.”

                    Time for some self-reflection, soldiermedic76. You seem like a good, sensible person, but some of the people you have been allying yourself with: Nardz, Sevo, loveconatitution1789, JesseAz, Lin Wood, Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell.

                    1. Not to mention, Tulpa. Let that one sink in.

                    2. I don’t ally myself with them. Nardz had been pissed at me since November because I called the stolen election thing stupid. I just contradicted Jesse today. See what I mean about your myopic views?

                    3. I also think for awhile Tulpa shadowed me after I stood up for you for several weeks.

                    4. Not pissed at you, just think you’re being foolish.
                      And worrying about the less than worthless opinion of a disingenuous midwit like white knight just reinforces that conclusion.

                    5. *foolish/naive

                      2020 was a phase shift. It’s no longer business as usual. Normalcy bias will be fatal.

                    6. I apologize then. And good on you for being independent in your thoughts and not just part of an online clique.

              3. What a bunch of malarkey, soldiermedic76! It’s the Right that made it far more possible for the Nazis to take over, do their dirty work, and ultimately exterminate a total of 11 million people, including Jews, Roma, Gypsies, and other “unwanted” groups.

            2. Flag. Flag. Flag. Flag. Flag. Flag. Flag. Flag. Flag. Flag. Flag.


              1. Oops. Missed one. Flag. Refresh.

                1. Eat shit Mormon!

              2. Joseph Smith was a con artist.

                He fucked a 15 year old.

                You worship a con artist who fucked a 15 year old.

                1. I worship Christ. And am not Mormon but Lutheran. My founder was an anti-semite not a pedophile. If you are going to besmirch my church get it right. BTW the Lutheran Church acknowledges Luther’s anti-semitism and rightly condemns it.

                  1. Oh is we you’re going after Chuck. It’s hard to keep track of your genocidal bigotry.

                  2. BTW the Lutheran Church acknowledges Luther’s anti-semitism and rightly condemns it.

                    In the same way that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints has repudiated polygamy, granted the priesthood to all worthy men, and condemned the Mormon Meadows massacre.

                    At the end of the day, the atheist leaders of the USSR, China, Cambodia, North Korea, etc. have racked up crimes against humanity that would have shamed the Mongol hordes. No religion even comes close the the damage no religion has done to the world.

                    1. Yep

          2. Tough Internet guy, Nardz.

            1. Stupid internet drone, white knight.

        4. Those people who attacked the Capitol and forced lawmakers to flee in fear of their limb and life while they were in the middle of certifying Biden’s being elected POTUS really do need to be charge with sedition, assault, and the attempt to overturn a legally, fairly and squarely won POTUS election. Here’s hoping they end up being tried in an adult court of law, charged with sedition, assault on democracy, and murder (at least 2 people were killed), and property damage., and sent to prison for a good long time. It would serve them right.

      3. look at this white supremacist spreading debunked conspiracy theories. Somebody charge up the Deprogrammer and get him over to the Ministry of Love

      4. Many Republicans’/right-wingers’ victimization narrative.

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    5. Sedition charges in the works for Capitol rioters. On Tuesday, the Department of Justice announced that it will bring sedition charges against people who stormed the U.S. Capitol on January 6. The punishment for seditious conspiracy is up to 20 years in prison………..MORE DETAIL.

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  2. Wear your masks! In fact wear 2 or 3! News has gone full clown world.

    1. Are you saying strapping an old tee shirt across my face won’t save me from the ‘rona? I was told it’s better than a vaccine.

      1. The lied.

        1. And *they* lied

          1. And I am posting to fast.
            (I guess I have to type as slowly as the slowest poster, for equity’s sake)

            1. I get that message a lot. Generally when I have multiple conversations going on and I am replying to them all. And then some people claim that my silence is proof they are correct. Nope, blame the comment rules.

  3. Look… campaign biden said he wasn’t against fracking. Why don’t you believe him?

    1. SleepyJoe hates progress.

    2. Fracking is just an idea.

    3. Look over there. Do not look at the hand behind the Biden.

  4. Sedition Cases Against Capitol Rioters

    Teason!!! Sedition!!! Hang them all!!!

    Virginia Rule Allowing Late Ballots Missing Postmark Was Illegal, Court Rules

    Virginia Circuit Court Judge William Eldridge ruled the state’s late mail-in ballot law violated state statute and permanently banned the law in future Virginia elections, the Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF) announced Monday. PILF sued the state’s board of elections in October on behalf of Thomas Reed, a Frederick County, Virginia election official.

    “This is a big win for the Rule of Law,” PILF President and General Counsel J. Christian Adams said in a statement. “This consent decree gives Mr. Reed everything he requested – a permanent ban on accepting ballots without postmarks after Election Day and is a loss for the Virginia bureaucrats who said ballots could come in without these protections.”

    1. Sedition!!!!!!

      ‘He’s Half There’: Biden’s WH Stenographer Insists President’s Mental Capacities Have Declined 50%

      1. Which is 100% in human cognition.

      2. Not that I disagree, but a stenographer is not an expert in the field of mental health.

        1. True, but it does not take an expert to recognize trouble when grandpa keeps putting his slippers in the toaster.

          1. He can still make his own toast?

            1. Apparently not.

      3. Watch it there, your disinformation stories are treading awfully close to disrupting national unity.

        1. Dissention stopped being the highest form of patriotism last week.

      4. So he is 40% mor cognisint than most progressives?

      5. Perhaps. Never saw any expression of concern on your part about Trump’s mental capabilities, say, when he talked about hydrosonic rockets or Revolutionary War airports.

        1. Did he ever talk about dog faced pony soldiers?

    2. Virginia Circuit Court Judge William Eldridge ruled the state’s late mail-in ballot law violated state statute

      So I guess this means the judge is guilty of sedition? Or at least racism?

      1. Twitter ban incoming

    3. If the FBI charges several or several dozen people with sedition (for visiting the US Capitol on Jan 6), a growing majority of Americans will realize that any Senate impeachment trial of Trump is not only unconstitutional, but nothing more than hateful and vengeful hyper partisan political theatre that is intended to further divide America (and clearly not unify the country as Demented Joe and Crying Chuck absurdly claim).

      My new prediction is if Schumer proceeds with a Senate impeachment trial, the GOP will retake control of the Senate and the House (the latter by at least a dozen seats) in 2022.

      Go for it Chuck.

      1. It basically communicates that they’re scared of Trump.
        That they think he’ll be reelected in 2024, and they can’t trust the American people with such a decision.

        1. they want to remove a popular candidate from the ballot, in order to defend democracy….

          1. ^ This

      2. “(for visiting the US Capitol on Jan 6)”

        Lol. That’s one way of wording it. The way a traitor trying to minimize a failed insurrection might.

        1. How was a protest turned violent an insurrection? Stop with the stupid hyperbole. I condemned the violence and still do but you are just as bad as those excusing the violence. Actually worse, because you seem to be in favor of using draconian laws against political goes whose speech you disagree with. Convict for the violence but not for the speech. Or did you forget your oath? Like you once accused me.

          1. I think the issue is that citizens rioted too close to the ruling class and the ruling class is spooked. We had riots all year. A liberal told me that riots were the voice of the unheard. This was all fine as the riots were not in the house of the ruling class. As soon as that happens it becomes insurrection.

        2. Do you really think they were there to setup their own government?

          A group of people did that in area of Seattle. What charges were brought against them?

          1. Insurrection: : an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government

            Nothing in the definition of the word about setting up one’s own government.

            1. So by that definition any protest is insurrection.

              1. It says *revolt* against government in the definition, not protest.

                1. Q revolt can be a demonstration and what happened on the 6thbhardly qualifies as anything more than a demonstration thatt got way out of hand just like last summer’s riots (which are still going on BTW).

                  1. Why do people who are sympathetic to the January 6th rioters keep bringing up other riots, as if that excuses anything. It’s a simple principle that two wrongs don’t make a right.

                    1. “”It’s a simple principle that two wrongs don’t make a right.””

                      Did you say it was wrong the first time?

        3. You want everyone to believe you served in Special Forces, you lying fuck? If you had, you would understand that the word ‘traitor’ has a very real meaning. To associate the word with a disappointed and angry crowd that clashed only lightly with police and milled around inside the public building known as ‘the People’s House’ is petty and dishonorable.

          Treason means agents, soldiers and citizens dying because of ones direct actions. A real soldier would know that, you fake-ass dog-robber wannabe.

          1. Joseph Smith was a con artist.

            The book of Abraham is a verified forgery.

            He fucked a 15 year old.

            Chuck worships a proven con artist who fucked a 15 year old

            1. 15 was the common age of marriage in most of the country in the 19th century.

            2. If we are fact checking, it was two different 14 year old (not 15) girls and Smith was somewhere from 29 – 37 years old when he married them.

              1. Still not uncommon in that age, especially among the gentry.

                1. Don’t disagree.

                2. Of course, polygamy was not common. Nor celestially marrying women who were already married to other men.

          2. “clashed only lightly with police”

            They killed a police officer.

    4. How many ballots were in this category?

    5. “Teason!!! Sedition!!! Hang them all!!!”

      So, you’re argument is that because of a ballot law dispute in Virginia (that affected how many votes?), the rioters were justified in invading the Capitol building during the electoral college count, forcing the Congress members to do into protective lockdown, stealing and looting, and killing a police officer.

      1. Argument absurdum.

        1. On my part or Ra’s? I’m not the one implying that a minor election law settlement excuses a violent riot.

          1. And neither did he. That is why it’s an argument absurdum.

            1. Yes, he did. Quite blatantly.

              1. Where? Making fun of charging sedition or treason for a demonstration and riot is not endorsing violence it’s making fun of overcharging based upon their political beliefs. Yeah you are some libertarian there.

                1. First sentence: “Teason!!! Sedition!!! Hang them all!!!”

                  Remainder of his comment: Discusses a minor election law case.

                  The juxtaposition of the two implies that this one minor election law case proves that all of the accusations of a stolen election were valid, and the rioters were justified in invading the Capitol building during the electoral college count.

                  It’s a stretch to characterize his comment as “making fun”. There’s no clear indication that he is joking.

  5. Indiana lawmakers push to make it harder for libritarian to get on ballots.
    Somebody has been paying attention to the Dnc and how they treat the green party in swing states

    1. Whaaaaaaatttttt…. good thing we had all those articles last year warning about this and not just commenter bringing it up.

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    3. The LP was labeled a spoiler for Republicans in the Georgia elections for US Senate in November, but in the runoff the majority of voters voted for the Democrat.

      1. I think that has less to do with no LP candidate and more to do with Trump’s stupidity in how he campaigned for the two R candidates.

  6. I thought people making more than $75k didn’t get the $600.

    1. It scaled down as you got above that, I don’t know what you have to make to get $0 though. I got something like $400.

      1. And I got nothing.

        You’re welcome.

        1. If it makes you feel better, I spent all of it on ammunition.

          1. Sounds like a good investment.
            Ammunition is the new gold.

            1. “”Ammunition is the new gold.””

              What did FDR do with the gold? That analogy may prove a little too accurate one day.

    2. I bet you think Biden is a unifier.

    3. Is that individuals or households? Because households can make more than 75k and still get the full amount…

    4. the article is referring to family income. the 75K limit is for individual income.

  7. Nearly 15 million illegal immigrants cost the US nearly 150 billion last year.

    This does not include secondary effects.

    1. They didn’t include the delicious food truck bonus.

      1. And the economic benefits of cheap yard work, child care, and day labor.

    2. I’m curious how the cost is calculated and what it includes. And if it is offset by taxes paid and contributions to the economy. Whatever subsequent generations may do, recent immigrants tend to work quite hard.

      1. The report is linked in the story.

        These costs are well known in border states. For example ESL schooling costs 3x more than English learners. Uncompensated hospital costs. Their children born here still qualify the family for things such as food stamps (and yes it is increased past just the kid). Jail costs. Etc.

    3. You guys are suddenly concerned about costs? Where was this concern when your cult leader was asking congress for more spending, racking up record deficits?

      And I wonder why he went primarily after legal immigration? Almost as though you guys don’t care at all about the national debt or well being of your fellow citizens, but do care about seeing and hearing icky brown people.

      1. Costs has always been a concern for the border security proponents, anti illegal immigrant crowd. It has been at the root of their argument for years. South Park even parodied that argument nearly a decade ago. As for not stopping or reducing illegal immigration, considering anything he tried was widely lambasted and resisted even stopped by the courts and Congress, I doubt you can blame that solely on him.

      2. “”racking up record deficits?””

        Thank you Nancy Pelosi.

        Funny how you have claimed to be non-partisan but fail to credit the house leadership when it comes to passing spending bills.

      3. When the budget bills are veto proof by 20 votes are more, I correctly blame Congress. You choose to be ignorant.

        1. He should have vetoed them and forced their, Congress’s hand. Sorry, I don’t give him a pass here. He didn’t because he wanted to avoid any blame for a shutdown but he does bear some guilt.

          1. See the NDAA. Useless actions are shit people do instead of using energy for things they can affect.

            1. A veto is something that can change things. If Trump had vetoed it who says how many Republicans would have taken that as permission to vote against overturning the veto?

      4. How come it’s always self righteous, virtue signaling liberal assholes who call them “icky brown people”?

        1. If it were Norwegians (I am fourth generation Norwegian and Danish American on my Dad’s side BTW) streaming in illegally or German or Scots-Irish (my mom’s side of the family) I would be just as opposed to illegal immigration. And I don’t think you can get any whiter than those ethnicities, without albinoism.

          1. Hell, I burn just thinking about the sun and even when I ran, I look like a potato plant grown in the dark.

  8. They also made the first women Rangers no longer Rangers to get Cotton.

    This is staggering.
    went back and rewrote a 2015 story that had described grads of Ranger School as “Rangers” – to match its present-day story accusing
    , who graduate the school, of not being a Ranger.
    I knew it was bad but didnt know it was this bad.

    1. Stalin was effective on rewriting history as well.

    2. 1984 is happening.

    3. Hope someone archived the original.

      Too bad no one buys the print version of Newsweek anymore except for libraries; I’d be taking a screenshot of that and posting all over social media.

      1. Keep in mind that piece of shit Dem rep Jason Crow, a Ranger who was last seen cowering on the House floor on January 6th like a little bitch, tried using his beret as a shield in response to this story.

    4. Well, according to the supreme court, no Ranger is a woman, and no Ranger is a man.
      As with all of the US Military.

      Welcome to the revolution.

    5. does that also mean that if you graduate with an ED.D you are not an Ed.d. as well. thinking of Jill Biden here

    6. You can’t call it Ranger preference anymore, now it’s Ranger orientation. Check the latest dictionary definition. But be sure to refresh the page first.

    7. The memory-holing is notable, sad, and completely expected. Unfortunately.

      Help me out here though. I had thought that graduating Ranger School meant one was “Ranger-qualified,” not a “Ranger?” “Ranger” was reserved for those who had served in the actual 75th Ranger Regiment. Further, service in Regiment meant assignment to one of the battalions, whose insignia is a scroll. Hence “Scroll” vs “Tab.” I had thought it was considered a douchebag move to refer to oneself as a Ranger without having served in the Regiment.

      Finally, AIUI, Jason Crow served as a JAG augmentee after he was a platoon leader in the 82nd. Very valiant, served in combat, graduate of Ranger School. (As is everyone in Infantry who wants to advance beyond O-4.) Was he actually in Ranger Regiment, and if so, was it as something other than the JAG guy back at Brigade? His slapfight with Cotton over this sounds like a “when assholes collide,” moment.

      1. I was in the Army for a long time and whenever I saw the tab I thought “Ranger” and not “Ranger qualified”. Anyway, it seems to me that if you are in the regiment having the tab is what matters and if you go to Ranger school from the regiment and fail you get reassigned. The school is what separates the “men from the boys” (or the whoever from the whatever now). As far as I’m concerned the Ranger regiment is just a very high speed light infantry regiment, they might be SOF but they had to be bailed out by good old straight leg grunts during Gothic Serpent (just like the SEALs in “Red Wings”).

        1. That happens when you don’t bring armor (even APCs) or significant air to a large urban infantry fight. And when you cleverly rely on truck exfiltration from said urban target area. At a time of day for maximum enemy alertness. Oops. And compound the error by emplacing around the high value target (the first downed UH-60), instead of cutting the dead out, destroying anything sensitive, and GTFO. If the Somalis had any indirect fire worth the name, those Rangers would have been fucked.

          That said, when they play to their strengths (fight at night, bring all the toys) they’re probably the best raiding/DA force in the world. Probably just as good at the LRS mission too. I doubt a Ranger element would have made the fundamental errors that were made by the SEALs in RedWings, for instance.

        2. Most guys I know he served in the Regiments didn’t have their tabs, didn’t have time to go to the school because of how high tempo their training was. Many were a bit salty when they saw a REMF/POG with the tab, while they wore the 75th scroll on their right shoulder but no tab on their left. I also would qualify the failure is automatic drop from the regiment. It depends on why you were DQd, I had a friend who was DQd for medical (pneumonia, and he was forced to go on sick call) and stayed with the Regiment.

      2. That’s more or less how my husband described it to me (graduated Ranger School but left service before he could serve in the regiment). He never refers to himself as a Ranger.

        1. During the 1950s and 60s, they had Ranger school but no active Ranger Regiment. It was expected of infantry officers to go to Ranger school.

  9. Our betters need protection

    Reflecting the Authoritarian Climate, Washington Will Remain Militarized Until At Least March
    The idea of troops in U.S. streets for an extended period of time — an extreme measure even when temporary — has now become close to a sacred consensus.

    1. But a least it isn’t a parade.

    2. “Two weeks to slow the spread” is now creeping up on a year. “Until at least March,” by that metric, means the troops will remain in D.C. forever.


      More troops in DC than Afghanistan.
      Can Mr. National Unity explain that?

      Welcome to the revolution.

    4. Iraq and Afganistan were temporary also

    5. Excellent article. I’ve become a big fan of his over the past few months.
      “Why was the idea of troops in American streets so grotesque and offensive in June, 2020 but so normalized now? Why were these troops likely to indiscriminately arrest and murder black reporters and other journalists over the summer but are now trusted to protect them?”

    1. Good on them. I’ve got nothing against hedgefunds in general, but I appreciate when people put their own money on the line for a cause.

      1. They are investing in game stop. Their money will be wasted.

        1. Pretty sure their goal isn’t to make money.

          1. Like the typical gender studies major?

        2. And there’s only so long that they can do it before they get bored and move on to the next shiny thing. These people have no attention span whatsoever beyond what ADD-inducing trend catches their eye. So the hedge funds might lose some on the front end, but they’ll still come out ahead on the back end.

          With gaming moving more and more to streaming now, places like Gamestop are going to go under pretty soon.

          1. You are correct.

          2. Does anyone know if the last Blockbuster is still open? I remember reading a story about the last Blockbuster several years ago but am not certain if it is still operating.

            1. As far as I know, it’s still open.

          3. Gamestop are going to go under pretty soon.

            Piffle. I remember there being one in every other town. Right next to a Blockbuster.

            1. Was that also next door to The Wiz?
              I hear nobody beats them.

              1. “Your best buys!!! [PEW! PEW! PEW!] Are Always At Fry’s!! Guaranteed!”

                Sic transit gloria mundi.

            2. I remember that you worship a con artist who fucked a 15 year old

              1. They don’t worship Joseph Smith or Bringham Young and 15 was a common age to get married for women during the 19th century.

        3. They’re not investing in GameStop, they’re simply taking advantage of an arbitrage opportunity. They found out that a hedge fund shorted GameStop to the tune of (IIRC) 55 million shares of stock and realized there aren’t 55 million shares of GameStop stock floating around out there so this hedge fund can’t possibly buy enough shares of stock to cover its position. It doesn’t matter a bit to them what particular stock it is, just knowing that some dumbass is going to have to be buying a shitload of that stock to cover his position is all they need to know.

          It’s how the market works and if you’ve ever read I, Pencil you know that it doesn’t matter a bit why the price of something is going up or down, it’s sufficient for your ends to know that it is going up or down. The price of chicken goes up, you buy less chicken, the price of pork goes down, you buy more pork. You don’t need to know why the price of chicken is going up or the price of pork is going down for you to react to the price change. Unless you’re planning on investing in porks or chickens, then you’d better be able to look ahead and accurately assess which way that price is going to be moving. These dumb kids on Reddit guessed correctly on what was about to happen, the financial geniuses who compromise the Big Swinging Dicks on Wall Street were too stupid to see the glaringly obvious bearing down on them.

          1. It’s hilarious, I’ve been laughing all day, and I hope the hedge fund loses their shirts.

        4. My kid sold his 1 share today for $293 that he bought yesterday for ~$120. He and I are both happy with this.

  10. So sedition charges are going to be brought up against the blm and antifa protesters too, right?

    1. You must thing there are still riots going on in the north west.

      1. There were on the day of Biden’s inauguration.

        1. Still going on. It wasn’t just inauguration day it’s been almost every day since then.

          1. Yeap, Meant to use the sarcasm tag 🙂

            1. There is no longer a thing called sarcasm.

    2. Stop being ridiculous. Antifa is just an idea. The people involved are peacefully protesting. There is not one iota of evidence that there is any coordination between people in these entirely organic mass petitions seeking a redress of legitimate grievances.

    3. As soon as they find the notarized membership cards.

      1. I have them all on the server in my basement.

    4. Unequal enforcement of the law if you do not support the party is what communists do.


    “Although we do not yet know the motive, I am aware of the anti-LGBTQ+ and misogynistic sermons given by the pastor of First Works Baptist Church;” – County Supervisor

    Sounds like endorsement of terrorism by an elected official

    1. “Although we do not yet know the motive”

      Could be that the Bible is anti-LGBTQ+ and misogynistic by modern standards, not that hard to figure out why a pastor would be giving the sermon.

      1. Hell, most everything before 2015 are those things by modern standards.

        1. Yeah it’s just funny that they’re not sure why a Christian pastor would be giving such a sermon. Christians have been pretty consistent on those issues for about two thousand years now, it’s no mystery how they feel.

  12. Sedition Cases Against Capitol Rioters ‘Will Bear Fruit Very Soon,’ Says FBI

    That’s politician speak for ‘we got nothin’ and are desperately scrambling for anything even remotely substantive so we can save face’.

    This’ll turn out like the Waco biker shootout of 2015 – most if not all charges dropped, a few people pleaing out to minor stuff and the government constantly saying ‘sorry, we can’t talk about investigations in progress’ when asked about the sedition.

    1. You would think the FBI would be careful with that sedition shit given that the same reasoning could be used against everyone from Rachel Maddow and Chris Cuomo to John Brennan, James Comey and Hillary Clinton, but nobody ever accused the FBI of being smart.

      1. Sedition will not be used against those who support the party.

    2. This’ll turn out like the Waco biker shootout of 2015

      And the Bundy Ranch standoff and the Malhuer National Wildlife Refuge Protest. Because what we saw Jan 6 was not sedition and public property indeed belongs to ‘We the People’.

      1. The Bundys worship the Sam con artist 15 year old fucker you do Chuck?

        Do you receive revelations like them?

        That’s one of the problems with your stupid goddamn church and why there are so many schisms in the fundamentalist sects.

        Anyone can say “God made me prophet!”

        You believe many of the same things the polygamists believe.

        Enjoy praying to your con artist prophet who fucked a 15 year old Chuck!

    3. They are going for a dog pile in order to scare them into pleading guilty. SOP for federal prosecutors.

  13. Roberts isn’t judging Shampeachment. Constitution requires that to impeach a President. Exactly who are they impeaching?

    1. Because Trump is an ex-President, the Chief Justice does not have to preside.

      1. This is a made up legal theory. There is no constitutional construct for the impeachment of a non president. Just because the constitution says they can’t do something, it doesn’t mean they can.

        If they proceed and convict him, Trump would have a simple case against congress as they can not bar a citizen from running for future elections outside of the impeachment described in the Constitution.

        The fact you’re okay with this says a lot about you.

        1. Make Trump, who will be in his early 80s in 2024 (and mid 80s in 2028 when the term ends), and hated by half the country, into a martyr and clear him out of the way for a younger Republican who will be eligible to run for reelection.

          Smart move, Dems.

          1. If the Ds REALLY thought Trump was toxic, they would be ENCOURAGING him to run, not trying to shut him out.

            1. The left reads 1984 like an instruction manual. It is not enough to submit to their rule. We must believe. History will record that Orangeman was bad.

              1. No it’s because they don’t want to be ruled by inbred, backwards, cousin fuckers like you Chuck!

                Your god doesn’t exist and anyone with a brain knows it.

                1. STFU bigot

      2. Do they need an ex chief justice to preside?

        1. Rehnquist, ghost of Chief Justices Past. Still wearing those silly Gilbert and Sullivan stripes on his robes instead of chains like a self-respecting spirit.

  14. But reviving the use of sedition charges like this could backfire against free speech and protests more broadly.

    You don’t need free speech and BLM and Antifa need to be brought to heel for as long as Democrats control the government. Useful idiots and all that.

  15. Does the ceo of mewe understand that section 230 only applies to small apps? Amazon, Google, Facebook, and Twitter retain full immunity regardless of how the act, who they ban, and how often the arbitrarily change their user agreements

  16. Meth, high-caliber weapons found during raid at luxury condo near downtown Houston

    Three people are in custody and five more are wanted after a mail theft ring bust that uncovered two dozen high-caliber weapons, hundreds of rounds of ammunition and meth inside a luxury condo Thursday morning near downtown Houston.

    Deputies with the Harris County Precinct 5 Constable’s Office raided the condo on St. Emanuel at Tuam, where authorities initially reported a bazooka was among the stash. They later said it was not. The condo is a $650 per night rental, they said.

    1. They call an AR15, as in a glorified .22, “High Caliber.” News has become meaningless.

      1. I like how the mention a bazooka and never show a photo. They are compleate liars

        1. To give them the benefit of the doubt perhaps there was a grenade launcher on one of those high-caliber .223s.

        2. 5 will get you 10 it’s an old LAW or RPG 7 launcher. The latter can be something harmful, if you get the grenades for it, I guess.

          I wonder what it was?

          1. The video at ABC-13, showing a ‘trophy table’ for the Constable’s Office, has things like a Scar, a Shockwave, and a Draco, but no bazooka that I can see. Looks like a D-60 or two. Some sort of polymer drum mag anyway.

            Can’t tell what optic is in the Scar, other than it’s some sort of LPVO. I liked shooting the Scar when I tried it. Surprisingly controllable in burst.

      2. Every dog is a pit bull and every gun is high caliber.

        Here’s a piece of stupid. I’ve got a Marlin Model 60. It’s a .22 with a tube magazine. I can tell it was manufactured before the assault rifle ban because the tube is roughly equal to the barrel length. They cut the tube down to comply with the ban because a plinker that holds 16 rounds is an assault rifle, while the same plinker with a 10 round tube is not.

        Stupid, stupid, stupid….

        1. Seems they have no idea what “caliber” even is.

          1. I’ll have to bring that thing when we go shooting. It’s the bestest plinker ever. Can’t miss. Ruger 10/22 can suck my ass.

            1. Yeah, I like the old tube magazine autos. If you use 22 short, you can get like 23 rounds in there.

              1. No shit? I’ve never tried. Shorts have enough recoil to cycle the rifle?

              2. Quick google says no. Suppose I could get another spring and cut it down…

                1. Maybe not all, I guess. I have an old Remington Speedmaster that will take shorts and cycles fine. And a Henry lever action, but obviously that’s different.

                  1. We’ve got to go shooting. If only the weather would cooperate…

                    1. Well, it is January. If it’s going to be cold, it could at least snow more.

                    2. I’ve been getting some practice at melting pork shoulders. We’ll eat well, that’s for sure.

              3. Quick google says no. Suppose I could get another spring and cut it down…

                1. What does duckduckgo say?

                  1. I thought people only used that for porn. I don’t mix firearms and porn. At least not very often.

              4. I like my new Savage A-22, but I’ve always been a fan of Savage rifles. Kay not be pretty but they are dependable and accurate.

                1. hickock45 likes the Model 60 Marlin.


                2. My buddy just got a Savage 30-06 bolt action. Definitely not the finest fit and finish, but seems solid and pleasant to shoot and great for the money.

                  1. Savage’s business model had been for decades to build accurate out of the box rifles at affordable prices by sacrificing looks. The 110 series was the most accurate out of the box rifles (maybe still is) of any major gun manufacturer. My son still shoots my savage 110E that my Dad bought for me new in 1988. The stock is all dinged up but it still drives a .270 winchester with reliability.

        2. But don’t you dare explain the difference. That’s “gunsplaining” which is a form of hate speech.

    2. It was a box of bazooka bubble gum.

    3. Nguyen who, using equipment like a 3-D printer, would create fake I-Ds

      Why? You make ID with regular old 2d Printers.

      Authorities said they found 25 to 30 weapons during the bust, calling the stash “staggering.”

      Don’t come to my home then. We have 10 between two people.

      Each one of them was loaded with high caliber ammunition

      Yet all the pictures are of 5.56 mm rifles?

      1. Journalists wear their ignorance of firearms like a badge of honor.

        1. Math, technology, and economics, too.

    4. “Luxury condo.” LOL. It ain’t the ‘Hood there—thank you, gentrification—but you can damn well see it from there. No matter how close to “EaDo,” or the Dynamo stadium you are.

      650/night. I want to use that place’s real estate agent when I sell.

  17. Small websites and apps need Section 230, writes the CEO of MeWe, Mark Weinstein, in the Wall Street Journal:

    More of these small groups have been destroyed by established companies than have been destroyed by lawsuits or government.

  18. “These are the 44 schools S.F. might rename. Which would you change?”
    “San Francisco school district officials are voting on whether to replace “inappropriate” school names honoring presidents, writers, generals and even Sen. Dianne Feinstein on Tuesday evening…”

    Two points:
    1) You can tell there’s no political bias in this matter, since Feinstein is grouped with slave holders.
    2) It’s Wednesday morning and the Chron (a supposed “newspaper”) does not have the result of a Tuesday vote.

    1. Tear down all the statues. Rename all the buildings. Start over at year 0 just like the French Revolution, which turned out so well.

      History implies utopian ‘idealism’ will fail and thus must be rejected. History has never dealt with someone so smart and so good as Zhou Biden.

      1. It will work out this time, as long as the Corsican strongman we make Emporer doesn’t invade Russia.

    2. Please let sf open the new names to public suggestion I would love sf kids to attend “kamala nigger cunt Harris elementary”

      1. Cunty McCuntface?

    3. Remember when Trump was a crazy conspiracy kook for thinking that the left wanted to erase the founding fathers from history?

    4. We have always been at war with Eastasia.

      1. Or at least the East Bay.

  19. A new study examines how Americans use their $600 stimulus check money. Households earning under $75,000 are more likely to spend the money relatively quickly, while higher earners are more likely to save the payment.

    Ahhhh. The magic multiplier of keynesian economics. Never on actual studies has this multiplier been greater than 1, but this time for sure!

    1. I don’t have any links but I’ve seen them admit that this time the multiplier is negative, like 45 cents per dollar.

      1. I’m sincerely sorry. I thought I was replying to someone capable of conversation, then I noticed who it actually is. My mistake.

        1. LOL. How cute. To think i even responded nicely at first. Looks like you want to start up again. Okay. Deal.

          1. The day you aren’t an asshole I’ll shave my balls and glue the hairs to my face.

            1. You mean that you weren’t doing that already? That’s your real facial hair?

              1. Canada makes some great music, Metric is one of my favorite bands, and the sci-fi from BC is top notch. But you? No, the country failed when it produced you.

                1. You can actually see the back of my head in this one.


                2. What’s music got to do with your face pubes?

                  However, if you have to make this about playing instruments, I will concede that you’re probably far better at fiddling with yourself and tooting a skinflute than I’ll ever be.
                  You win that one sarc.

                  1. Never played woodwinds. Brass has class! Jazz trumpet in high school. Piano when I was young. Taught myself how to play guitar and harmonica (aka blues harp), and still play. Tube amps all the way. My mother is a master gardener, but sadly my father is not a fisherman. Else I’d be a master baiter.

            2. You are more often than not the first to go on the attack dummy.

              1. You’ve got a really thin skin if you think I was attacking you.

                1. Reread what you wrote dumbass. I dont give a shit what you think about me as I honestly hadn’t respect any child abusing alcoholic. But you started this like you always do.

                  So carry on.

      2. It isn’t negative.. it is below 1. Which means the value decreases every iteration.

        1. JesseBahnFurher is either AT zero, or on an asymptotic approach to zero; one or the other, I’m not sure which. Or maybe JesseBahnFurher IS, itself, an asymptote, plain and simple!

    2. I still have my first $1200. Bought a gun with the $600. And I make more than $75K. The next money? Vacation of another gun.

      1. Your guns go on vacation?

        1. Nope. or vacation.

        2. My love gun goes on vacation ALL of the time! He has a REALLY good time, spelunking, especially!

      2. I’m using the money to pay down the note on my car.

        1. You sound poor.

      3. Investing in my ranch and maybe a new gun. I have wanted a Sig Sauer M-17 for awhile in Coyote Tan.

        1. If I have enough I may purchase the .40 S&W barrel for it as well.

        2. Why? I’m not trying to be a dick, just an honest question. Seems to me like something to get when you’ve already got a 1911, couple ARs, couple shotguns, plinkers, hunting rifles, can’t be complete without a Ruger Mark something….

          I guess you’ve got a lot of guns, which answers my own question.

          Here’s my question. I don’t own a shotgun. I’m thinking I should start with an 870.


          1. 870 or Mossberg 500. I prefer the Mossberg, shot it for years (my son now shoots it as I’ve moved onto a Franchi Affinity (just a bit more expensive and less felt recoil). The Mossberg is a drop in the mud, work the action and ready to fire type weapon. So is the 870. Also, the sound of a pump is enough to freeze most people in their tracks.

            1. I’ll compare and contrast the 870 with the 500, thank you for the input.

              1. I have an 870. A friend brought his mossberg over last week. We shot the mossberg. An order of magnitude nicer. The Remington works and has never failed me, but the Mossberg was just finished nicely, while I was a bit embarressed by how poorly fit out the 870 was. Works though and I am good with that as it is paid for.

          2. As for the M17, I like the modularity and the fact that I can shoot three different calibers with a simple barrel change. 9mm, .357 sig and .40 S&W. Mount tactical flashlight on the rails or a laser sight and can easily swap between the two. It is the AR of handguns.

            1. Shit, that’s cool.

            2. You can do that with a Glock too, FWIW. Storm Lake drop in barrel, buy the right mags, and you’re done. Maybe futz with the springs if you must.

              I do recommend very highly—especially if you’re starting to be an old fart, like I am—looking into either a reflex sight or laser sighting system for your pistol. I can’t anymore, line up and keep focused sufficiently on the front sight and still maintain target awareness. With the dot, I can.

              Worth the minor hit on concealment, and even there, a laser dot system like Crimson Trace doesn’t make the pistol any more difficult to conceal.

              Anyway, if I had an extra gun’s worth of cash burning a hole in my pocket, I’d get a red dot or laser vs buying another gun.

              1. Don’t have a carry weapon currently. I do have a .22 magnum in my glove box, but it’s there for coyotes and such.
                Funnily enough growing up I didn’t shoot pistols much but have found I am a better pistol shot than rifle shot or shotgun (wing shooting). I killed a gopher at 25 yards off hand using a Freedom Arms SAA clone, chambered in .22 mag last spring, head shot using fixed sites.

                1. I also split a one inch trig with the same pistol twice in a row at 15 yards.

        3. When a woman asks “Why do you want another gun?” the correct response is “Why do you need so many shoes?”

          Zeb was there when mainer said that. Great dinner.

          1. Pat McManus once wrote that the goal of any gun owner is to reach a point where she stops counting guns and just refers to them as “all those guns” or something to that extent. I long surpassed that point. I like the 1911 but not exactly a carry piece.

            1. And I like the .40 S&W for self defense. Loaded with winchester elite defender 165 gr rounds, it is the perfect balance of hitting power and reduced recoil in my opinion. It is what I got my wife, a Springfield XD-40.

              1. I have a Springfield XD-E (as in Exposed hammer) in 9mm. Thought I’d like a single-stack double action, but I don’t like it. I don’t shoot well with it. Grip is too thin.

                1. My wife’s XD-40 is a double stack. Biggest issue I have is it is a bit stiff to chamber a round for her, and not a big fan of trigger safeties. But I have looked into devices for helping her jack the slide, any suggestions?

                  1. I can shoot under a 4 inch group off hand at 35nyardd out of the 4 1/2 inch barrel. My wife was concerned that her 5 inch group was not good enough. I said “hun, if you can put 5 shots into an inch group at 25 yards, at self defense range (under 10 yards mostly) you are more than accurate enough.”

                    1. At 25 yards
                      And she hot a 5ninch group a one inch group would be more than adequate.

                  2. Practice. It’s a technique issue more than it is raw strength. Cornered Cat is a blog written by a woman who tries to address some of the issues women have with concealed carry. Like racking the slide.

                    That said…there are a variety of pistols that are made to be easy to cycle/manipulate. There are the barrel tilt-up models like some small Berettas. Smith makes an EZ line for the Shield. My girlfriend did not find the EAA Witness models for women that much easier to manipulate, even though that’s how they’re marketed. Walther makes a CCP that utilizes gas assisted retardation of the slide, AIUI, which allows the spring weights to be much less. Pity it’s of the quality of their Umarex line, and not their PPQ. There are choices, IOW. Try a bunch.

                  3. But I have looked into devices for helping her jack the slide, any suggestions?

                    Not meaning to be sarcastic, but maybe she should try the XDe. They advertise 30% less resistance when racking the slide. I’ve got one for sale…

                  4. Grab the slide, push with the other hand. So it’s not manipulating the slide. It’s holding the slide tight and pushing the gun. Maybe that might work for her.

                    1. I have had her do that and like Grey said it is practice she needs. She was able to rack it easier that way. She just needs range time.

                    2. Then do it. Make a point of buying a box of ammo every week, and using it up. Make it routine.

                    3. I walk a mile on the beach every day. Rain, shine, tourists, blizzard, whatever. Got a tides app on my phone, and when I’m not getting my feet wet I go. Maybe do something like that with shooting. “Hey Hon, time to put some holes in some innocent pieces of paper, let’s go!”

                    4. I just bought some snap caps. Maybe you could get some of those and she could practice clearing a mag, but with harmless snap caps. Make it safer.

                    5. We do have snap caps and I have had her practicing with them.

                    6. Dry fire. With snap caps if need be, but you don’t need them. Racking the slide after every shot will toughen up her muscles and tighten her technique.

                      If you attach a laser, like I mentioned upthread, you will be absolutely amazed at how much that thing dances during your trigger press. You’ll tighten up your technique, just from that feedback. And a hell of a lot cheaper than what centerfire pistol amm ogoes for these days.


    Haha. Hedge fund manager can go on Squawk Box & tell everyone why they are short GameStop & why you should also be & they are called investing geniuses.

    But if you post on Redditt,

    “Bought GME. To the moon fellow idiots” RocketRocketRocketRocket

    that is concerning to regulators.


      What sends elites (and their media spokespeople) into the most intense spasms of indignation is when the plebes and the unlicensed start manipulating political and financial power centers with the tactics divinely assigned to their betters. It’s the best:
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      There are real analogies between the way Redditors are exploiting and disrupting the normal workings of Wall Street and the way 4channers and memelords exploited and disrupted the political system in 2016.

      1. They better get used to it.

        Just like technology improvements have brought smart weaponry down into the hands of terrorists living in caves, technological improvements have given the average man access to the social levers that it once took serious infrastructure to manipulate.

        Anyone can make a GPS guided drone. Almost anyone can make chemical weapons and explosives at home. Now anyone can spin-doctor and shape narrative across the nation.

        1. My kid texted me that he made $100 on one share yesterday. Probably close to $150 today if he sells it like I told him to do. I think $175 price bankrupts someone.

          1. Make sure Mark Hanna doesn’t convince him that he’s got a “special idea” and he should move that “money” over to another stock.

      2. Jesus Christ, this shit pisses me off. The Deplorables and Ignorati at Reddit realized that one of the Elite Expert Financial Geniuses fucked up by shorting more shares of GameStop than were actually available and hosed him for over a billion dollars for his fuck-up and now all the other Elite Expert Financial Geniuses are complaining that it’s not fair that Deplorables and Ignorati should be able to take advantage of an Elite Expert Financial Genius in such a manner. Fuck you.

        1. The GameStop debacle is one of the most beautiful things that I’ve seen in several years.

          Redditors declared insurrectionists in 3… 2… 1…

          1. Bailout for Financial Genius in 3, 2, 1…

            The story is fantastic.

  21. “Under federal law, the crime of seditious conspiracy is defined as two or more people conspiring “to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof.”

    Voting is a seditious conspiracy. How? Easy. Voting implies that the votes matter. Votes mattering implies that people with guns will enforce the edicts of an elected official that garnered the most votes. Voting is therefore a conspiracy to exercise force against existing government officials and their existing authority.

    Absurd? Give it time. Actually, look at California. The proposed recall of Newsom is already being described as an insurrection and a form of sedition.

    Pretty soon we will find ourselves in a state where exercising our constitutional rights will be deemed seditious. They’ve already more or less achieved this transformation with respect to the First and Second Amendments.

    1. Doubting the wisdom of The Party is sedition.

    2. What do you mean “pretty soon”?

      Welcome to the revolution.

    3. Following the processes provided by election law to challenge an election is considered “sedition” and “treason” amongst the Woke.

  22. In reality, it would give them an incentive to censor far more aggressively. To protect themselves from being sued over content, they would remove anything remotely controversial. Users would be spied on constantly.


    The reason sec 203 exists is because platforms were getting sued *for moderating*. Not getting sued for not moderating. Platforms would moderate and then get sued because they didn’t do a complete job on the theory that by moderating they became publishers and so responsible for everything published on their platform.

    If they did not moderate, of course, everything turned to shit – which is why they wanted to moderate in the first place.

    Repeal 230, make it clear that no moderation’ means ‘not responsible.

    Your phone company doesn’t moderate. *And* its not a utility either. Yet somehow they make it work.

    Small websites and apps need Section 230, writes the CEO of MeWe, Mark Weinstein, in the Wall Street Journal:

    Honestly, I don’t think small websites and apps need 230 – the big ones do.

    Reason Magazine – how many times have you been sued for the contents of your comment section over the last 25 years? Not subpoenaed by the government because of something we’ve said, but *sued* because of a comment?

    1. There was that sheep fucker guy.

      1. Woodchipper…

        1. That was a subpoena for an investigation into an actual alleged crime – bullshit, but not a lawsuit.

          1. Thanks for the clarification. I’m not a lawyer so it’s all a blur to me.

          2. I reason like a computer scientist, not like a lawyer. Lawyers need to keep simultaneously conflicting premises and arrive at a conclusion. Hurts my head.

    2. Repeal 230, make it clear that no moderation’ means ‘not responsible.

      That’s the whole point of 230, though–that platforms can’t be held liable for what their users post. It’s when they are classed as a publisher that the liability clause kicks in.

      It’s why I keep saying that there’s no reason to repeal 230 to solve this–just re-classify the Tech Trust social media platforms as publishers, since they are actively curating content now. If they don’t want to lose that privileged status, then they should fire 90% of their moderators and let things operate like they did in 2007, when it was freewheeling.

      The fact that Reason doesn’t even weed out its spam comments is a big reason why L’Affaire Woodchipper turned out in its favor, because, technically, they could be considered a publisher in all other aspects as a politically partisan magazine.

    3. I have a suspicion that “getting rid of Section 230” might be stealing a base as well – it might be that a lot of these people don’t actually favor getting rid of Section 230, they just favor getting rid of Section 230 for platforms that censor viewpoints they find disagreeable. The whole purpose of 230 was to foster free speech by protecting platforms from liability for publishing disagreeable content, if you’re going to take it upon yourself to remove disagreeable content, you don’t need the 230 protection then do you?

      1. Actually I think some, mostly on the right favor your interpretation, i.e. no Section 230 for those who censor, while some, mostly on the left (but some on the right also I am sure) favor getting rid of 230 so they can sue when people post things they don’t like. Reason doesn’t even try to differentiate the two groups and neither do many of the 230 sycophants in the comment section.

      2. if you’re going to take it upon yourself to remove disagreeable content, you don’t need the 230 protection then do you?

        Right now you do. Because moderating user-generated content was leaving sites open to lawsuits over any comments left behind that the plaintiff did not like.

        Ie, you remove 5 comments by someone calling for the gassing of Jews but you don’t get to the one saying ‘white people should die’ – then people were trying to sue over the last comment.

        230 makes it clear that moderation does not mean you endorse what stays around. So you can remove content without being on the hook for the content left.

        There is certainly an argument for this approach.

        OTOH, your phone company, your email company, the post office, all send your traffic without interference or moderation. Then again, a lot of that is point to point communications.

  23. …while higher earners are more likely to save the payment.


    1. On the other hand, to be sure, where in the hell were we supposed to spend the damn check?
      Everything is closed.

  24. <i.President Joe Biden is canceling the federal government's contracts with private prisons.

    Government employees never abuse the citizens.

  25. A federal judge blocked Biden’s 100-day moratorium on some deportations…

    Luckily we found out from the election challenges that the judiciary is infallible.

    1. That was yesterday, before we discovered a seditious nazi threatening national unity from the bench.

  26. In regards to the laughable impeachment proceedings, it’s interesting to see Rand Paul emerge as a legitimate leader in the Senate.

    “Forty-five Republicans, including Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R., Ky.), sided with Sen. Rand Paul (R., Ky.) on his point of order arguing that the planned trial of a now-private citizen violates the Constitution. Some cautioned, however, that their vote Tuesday didn’t necessarily dictate how they would vote at the end of trial.”

    The five Republican senators who voted to try ex-President Trump were mostly the usual suspects–senators who might have voted to impeach President Trump for eating a ham sandwich.

    Susan Collins – Maine
    Lisa Murkowski – Alaska
    Mitt Romney – Utah
    Ben Sasse – Nebraska
    Pat Toomey – Pennsylvania

    It’s nice to see Rand Paul emerge as a legitimate leader in the Senate–something his father never accomplished. Ron Paul was always on the fringe. Rand Paul hasn’t changed much on the issues, but he’s now in the Republican mainstream and arguably leading the Republican mainstream.

    Because of Donald Trump, opposing forever wars, for instance, simply isn’t a fringe issue for Republicans anymore.

    1. I’m ashamed to admit I voted for two-term Collins when she ran for her third term. I was employing your “A Republican is better than the alternative” logic. Now I see the error of my ways and am not even registered to vote.

      1. You think it would be better if the Republicans could present even less opposition to Biden’s policies in the Senate, why?

        1. No I don’t think that. But thanks for expecting me to defend something I never said.

          1. Yeah, well, my “strategy” isn’t that a Republican is always better either. My observation is that Biden and the Democrats present an unusual threat to liberty and capitalism with their outrageous authoritarian and socialist agenda. My “strategy” is that we should use our votes to deprive them of the White House and both chambers in Congress to stop the progressives from enacting their agenda. That isn’t a strategy so much as it’s just an observed fact.

            If they can’t enact their agenda, it is only because they don’t have the votes. If you think the progressives would have less power to enact their agenda if the Republicans had one fewer member in the Senate and the Democrats had one more, you’re wrong. They would have much, much more power to enact their agenda.

            Why is voting for Susan Collins the wrong thing to do in that situation?

            “McConnell said in a statement Monday night. In his statement, he pointed to a 2001 agreement—the last time there was a 50-50 Senate—as a model for 2021.

            Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D., N.Y.) had previously embraced that approach, which gave the parties equal seats on committees and let nominees and bills advance to the floor even if a committee vote was tied.

            . . . .

            While Mr. McConnell had called the 2001 deal a good guide, he had insisted that Democrats also pledge to keep the filibuster in place. The organizing resolution itself is subject to filibuster, meaning that Republicans could have continued to block it, as long as at least 41 of them were willing to do so.


            If Susan Collins weren’t in the Senate, and a Democrat were in her place, Schumer would not have had to enter a power sharing agreement with McConnell (with an equal number of committee members from both parties and the filibuster intact for the time being). The extent to which other factors impact policy, they are all secondary to control of the chambers of Congress and the White House.

            Again, the belief that the authoritarian and socialist policies of Biden and the Democrats would have less chance of passing (or passing in a milder form) because the Democrats had absolute control of the Senate is absurd.

            1. His principles would rather him sell out to the left on the concept that he said no to both sides. That way he can never blame himself for bad selections with politics. It is cowardly principles.

              It was obvious to anyone who looked at the actual actions by Trump as compared to the promises made by Biden as to which was a bigger threat to freedom. Instead of honest analysis, sarcasmic was more interested in going into threads and creating anti-Trump and anti-conservative strawmen in thread after thread while ignoring Biden. And after Biden won, he still claims he was never for anyone! Ta-Da! He doesn’t have to explain his behavior in any intellectual sense.

              Now he has become someone who calls anyone who points out his simplistic positions as a troll like he did Red Rocks 2 days ago. He has no principles aside from false sanctimonious claims of he didn’t vote for anybody. Just ignore his actual actions over the last 2 years. It is sad to see. But that’s his chosen path.

              There is a reason people move off of idealistic analysis. Positions and beliefs can start from an idealistic platform, but at some point you have to bring those thoughts into a realistic realm of understanding or they are worthless. Ideal states don’t exist. Not in Physics nor in Politics. Arguing solely from idealism as an enactment of policy requires everyone to agree to your ideal state. It requires to ignore reality and the innate conflicts humans have.

              1. Who is the intended audience of posts like this?

                You expect me to defend or dispute your bullshit?

                You trying to impress people with your psychoanalysis?

                You virtue signaling to your fellow Trumpistas?

                Seriously dude, you’re obsessed. You need help.

                1. He’s got you pegged …. right in that worthless ass of yours, you lying leftist shitbag.

                  1. When I want your opinion I’ll shut myself in the bathroom, make sure the fan is off, take a hefty shit, and breathe in deep.

                    1. Are you huffing shit right now? Because I can tee off on your dumb leftist ass all day.

              2. I think there are a lot of old-school libertarians who have become accustomed to never being in power. And they may have a hard time transitioning to the idea that policy differences are primarily a function of who controls which chamber.

                There wasn’t much of a difference between Democrats and Republicans–from a libertarian perspective–for at least 20 years. There wasn’t a substantial difference between Bush Jr. and Obama on issues that mattered to libertarians–not even on issues like the Drug War, mass surveillance, war mongering, TARP, and gay marriage.

                Obama campaigned on “Marriage is between a man and a woman”.

                Obama raided medical marijuana dispensaries in California hundreds of times during his first term.

                For libertarians who lived through every day of that 20 years, when there was no substantial difference between Republicans and Democrats on libertarian issues, it is hard to suddenly see the differences–especially when so much of the reason to support Republicans is because the Democrats have become so awful from a libertarian and capitalist perspective.

                I didn’t vote for Trump in 2016, and when I voted for him in 2020, it was in spite of Trump being wrong about immigration, trade, and Section 230. One of the reasons it’s so important to be honest in our criticisms of the candidates we support is because that’s how we persuade people who need to overcome the same obstacles. Trump was wrong about x, y, and z, and when he lost it was avoidable travesty for libertarian capitalists.

                This election was unusual, and we shouldn’t necessarily fault our fellow libertarians for not realizing how much was at stake and what the consequences of one party or the other winning would be. Being lulled into complacency by 20 years of no significant policy differences between the Democrats and Republicans is an easy trap to fall into. Refusing to crawl out of it is another issue.

                1. Good post. On topic and to the point.

                  I agree until the point where you say it’s a trap that one should crawl out of. The way I see it it’s the pit and the pendulum. It swings Democrat to Republican, left to right, but inches down each time. I fail to see how choosing a side slows the downward movement.

                2. This is what I see too, except for the timing, which was actually about 20 years earlier than you thought. The LP organized at the peak of Demoblicanism, which extended from about the US entry into World War 2 to the fall of the Iron Curtain. By about 1995, Don Ernsberger was easily able to discern the divide between the Democrats and Republicans on a libertarian scale in a study he did.

                3. Watch Senator Rand Paul tell the truth about Trump’s impeachment trial and the far left wing Democrat hypocrites and liars.

                  1. He’s doing a great job, there.

                    1. Rand 2024. We can only hope. Hopefully not 17 candidates with one named Bush running this time (or one named Trump).

                    2. Or Norm/Paul 2024. That’s a ticket I could support.

                    3. *Noem fucking autocorrect.

                    4. Rand 2024

                      I’d register to vote for that.

                    5. He was my first choice in 2016. To crowded a field and no way I was voting for Trump or Bush.

                4. The transition to woke and CRT started almost a decade ago. A decade ago people said to ignore the colleges, they’d grow out of it. They didn’t. So the transition, while you show happened a little bit slower, the evidence was clearly there in the early 2000s. This goes back to the open and well known slogan of the long march through the institutions. We are approaching the apex of that march and some still think the march hasn’t begun.

          2. How is Leahy doing? Fingers crossed, if he kicks it and a republican governor, is he required to appoint a replacement at all? He could just leave it vacant until 2022, that brings it back to 49 to 50.

            How is the senate leader selected? Do they have a vote? Would like to see McConnell booted and Paul in his place.

        2. Never met her though. Met Snowe twice and LePage once. Snowe is surprisingly not-homely in person.

      2. Are you really sure you actually voted for Collins?

      3. No wonder you liked Biden so much.

    2. “Lawmakers narrowly killed a Republican effort to dismiss the impeachment charge as unconstitutional,” says The New York Times. But the 55–45 vote “strongly suggested that the Senate would not be able to convict the former president.”

      For the past two weeks (on many threads here) I predicted that no more than 55 Senators would vote to convict Trump. And yet, hundreds/thousands of fake news stories (including many Reason articles) have been hyping the Senate Impeachment trial and conviction as if they were foregone conclusions.

      Surely, at least several of the hundreds/thousands of left wing media propagandists who hate Trump, campaigned for Biden, and have exponentially more financial resources (including pollsters and lobbyists) than me, knew that there weren’t enough votes in the Senate to convict Trump.

      But they lied about and misled the public about the Senate impeachment trial, just as they’ve been lying about and misleading Americans daily about Trump, Biden, George Floyd’s cause of death, covid, lockdowns, mask mandates, herd immunity, BLM, Antifa, China, Hunter Biden’s laptop, etc. in order to achieve their far left wing policy agendas.

      Per Ken’s comments about Rand Paul, after being a registered Democrat since 1980, I switched to the GOP in 2016 to vote for Rand Paul in PA’s primary election.

  27. Chicago teachers may soon be going on strike.

    It will be like when they cancelled Max Headroom.

  28. A New Jersey teachers union says schools might not reopen for “maybe another year.”

    Public schools.

  29. South Carolina is trotting out its rarely used obscenity statute against a couple who filmed themselves having sex in public.

    Like in teen sexting, I’m pretty sure law enforcement does this because their wives check their browsing history on their home computers.

  30. Many of the people who stormed the Capitol deserve some charges, and seditious conspiracy might seem as good as any at a glance.

    Might seem as good as any ?? As usual, ENB doesn’t even realize how stupid she sounds. Derp level over 9000.

  31. Small websites and apps need Section 230…


    (Those all get bought up and killed well before they introduce competition in the market anyway.)

  32. New legislation in California “aims to change expert testimony and forensic evidence legal standards … to make it easier for falsely accused individuals to challenge wrongful convictions…”

    Won’t someone please think of the junk scientists?

    1. Talking like someone who wants to be decried by congress. You wouldn’t be so snarky after a formal declaration, would you?

  33. Luckily for the Party of Science, economics isn’t a science.

    1. Another Democratic administration, another push to drastically hike the national minimum wage…

      You know, for this.

  34. Republicans declare impeachment trial itself unconstitutional.

    Good fucking thing the country doesn’t have actual problems that require the attention of Congress.

    1. If only we would be so lucky, but Congress is plenty capable of keeping this sham up while simultaneously making our actual problems worse.

  35. Indiana lawmakers are trying to make it harder for Libertarians to get on ballots.

    Libertarians are why we’re all in the mess we’re in right now.

  36. Calls for sedition charges haven’t stopped with people who stormed the Capitol…

    (Manufactured) crisitunity!

  37. Reuters: CDC’s early COVID response “marred by . . . career scientists and frontline staff”

  38. Sluuuuuurrrrrrppppp!!!!!

    Kamala Harris is the first vice president who is Black, South Asian, female and the direct descendants of immigrants.

    Introducing “Covering Kamala Harris,” a beat dedicated to her historic rise to the White House.

    Follow us on Instagram:

    1. Or “How To Succeed On How Many Checkmarks You Tick While Failing Miserably On Merit”

    2. They always smooth over the fact that Kamala’s South Asian heritage is Brahmin.
      I suppose the slaughter of six million Dasyu aboriginals and 2500 years of enslaving the Dalits, doesn’t look as good as being a purported victim of British colonialism.

    3. Jesus, “slurp” is right. The LA Times devoting an entire Instagram page to licking Kamala’s gash shows that they aren’t a news organization anymore, they’re literally a PR firm for the Democrats.

    4. Every president has descended from immigrants…

      1. Elizabeth Warren claims she’s descended from immigrants that came here more than 10,000 years ago.

        1. She’s 1/95th right.

    5. I’ve had to physically hold myself back from responding to all my Facebook acquaintances celebrating the first female VP as if it is a victory for women in any meaningful way. It’s an appointed position that has zero to do with actual ability (cough *joe biden* cough) and everything to do with if you hit the right demographic/fundraising ability to bring in votes.

      It’ll be worse when she gets to be President, not because the people elected her, but because a guy put her in position to take over. Feminism!


    Veteran suicide numbers through the roof. Ruined lives. Substance abuse rampant. Child abuse rampant.

    All done INTENTIONALLY by your elected officials.

    Cuomo, Newsom, Whitmer and the rest of them should be sharing the same mob attorney as they await RICO charges.

    1. Crime has shot up, too. Thanks BLM.

      1. Property is a racist construct.

        1. Keep your hands off my racist construct, then.

  40. “Under federal law, the crime of seditious conspiracy is defined as two or more people conspiring “to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States”

    In other words, a majority of progressives and liberals in general?

    1. “Under federal law, the crime of seditious conspiracy is defined as two or more people conspiring “to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States”

      This statement is not comprehensive.

      In “Brandenburg vs. Ohio, the Supreme Court held that advocating the violent overthrow of the U.S. government by itself is protected speech.

      The reason Flavor Flav always wore a giant clock around his neck was presumably because he always knew what time it was. Or, going, back to before the days of superfly, when someone asks you what time it is, you say, “It’s time for a revolution!” Advocating revolution in this country is well protected by the First Amendment–and that’s exactly the way it should be, too.

      From a constitutional perspective, the only thing that may be dumber than the idea that the framers didn’t realize people would use speech to advocate revolution is the idea that Hamilton (who was with Washington at Valley Forge and led one of the columns that defeated Cornwallis at Yorktown) had no idea that people might need to use guns to overthrow the government someday–when he was arguing for what became the Second Amendment.

      “If circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens. This appears to me the only substitute that can be devised for a standing army, and the best possible security against it, if it should exist.”

      —-Federalist Paper No. 29, Alexander Hamilton

      Yes, advocating revolution–by itself–is protected by the First Amendment according to both the First Amendment and the Supreme Court. If Thomas Paine wrote Common Sense today, would it be covered by the First Amendment? The progressives would interpret the First Amendment so as to throw the signers of the Declaration of Independence in jail for sedition–and we should lambaste the progressives for it.

      Whether the verbiage in Trump’s speech constituted advocacy of revolution, of course, is another question entirely. In the speech, President Trump actually called for peaceful protest–if you’re the kind of person who lets facts get in the way of a narrative, that’s an important point. Regardless, even if he had advocated revolution, that speech is protected by the First Amendment, and if the First Amendment isn’t the law of the land, then what they hell are we talking about when we’re talking about “federal law”?

      1. Have fun explaining all of that at your sedition trial, clinger.

        1. Well, I’m definitely calling Flavor Flav to the stand in my defense.

          1. What time is it? Flava – Time to Testify!

  41. “Sedition Cases Against Capitol Rioters ‘Will Bear Fruit Very Soon,’ Says FBI”

    Is there any indication that charges will be filed in the case of Ashli Babbitt?

    Because trespassing doesn’t justify shooting unarmed protesters.

    1. People get shot during deadly riots. Of course, the rioters didn’t kill anyone during the riot, but the talking points have been distributed. ‘Five dead including an officer, only one shot by police.’ If you can trust the news, it’s a miracle it wasn’t more.

      1. The constant claim that the riot “left 5 dead” is really irritating. I suppose it is technically true in some sense, but pretty misleading. Only one person was deliberately harmed and that was by police. The rest seem to be mostly related to health problems, possibly an accidental blow to the head. I’m still not quite clear on what happened to that cop who died.

        1. There’s video of a fire extinguisher being thrown at a police officer wearing a riot helmet. The person throwing it isn’t visible, but they seem to be at least 20 feet away, throwing from behind the police line.

      2. Mormons get shot.

        1. And bigots remain bigoted

    2. Babbitt is dead so you can’t try her, which is in a way is sad, dying was too good for a traitor like her.

      1. Oh? And what was she doing that made death too good for her?
        Raping a baby?
        Poisoning schoolchildren?
        Shooting up a hospital?
        Protesting a sketchy election?

        If you’re going to try and shitpost, stop being so lousy at it, retard.

        1. I am unaware of any allegations of rape or murder of children or the sick by Babbitt, but it would not surprise me if she did. She would do whatever Q told her to do.

          1. And that’s a death sentence in your books?
            WTF, are you angling to be the comandante of neo-Auschwitz?

            1. You attack congress then you risk getting shot.

              1. I thought you were being sarcastic, but not I’m not so sure…

                Does this mean there shouldn’t be an investigation into why the officer shot her?

                1. There will be an investigation of course, then the officer can take the report that clears him and mount it on his wall.

                  1. Right next to the human-skin lampshade.

              2. So what about the other attacks last year?
                Should we line up the BLM protesters who attacked the Senate and the Whitehouse last year, Herr Amon Göth?

          2. I am unaware of any allegations of rape or murder of children or the sick by Babbitt, but it would not surprise me if she did.

            Funny, most of the pedos and sex pests appear to be on your side, considering how many Antifa rioters are listed on sexual predator lists. Like that guy Rosenbaum that Kyle Rittenhouse blessedly departed from this world.

      2. Your moral depravity isn’t persuasive–unless you’re just trying to convince us that you’re morally depraved.

      3. We’ll never see a tearful apology from her, declaring how racist and wrong she is.
        She was never able to be fired from her job and disavowed publicly by her friends.

        1. I was thinking she avoided spending 20 years in prison, but sure, those other things would have happened too (other then the apology).

          1. Seems a little harsh for some simple B&E.

            1. She was white. She deserved it. You know, equity and all.

              1. It’s a special kind of evil which celebrates when people of an unfavored class are hurt or killed.

                1. It is not a special kind of evil, we call it the Republican platform.

                  1. He was talking about your dumb ass, twat.

                  2. You…you are a special kind of evil.

    3. The punishment for treason and sedition, is death. She got what she deserved. She was also white, which made her death particularly delectable.

      The fucked up thing is that at least 50% of the country believes exactly that.

      1. If you choose to violently break into the area where members of congress are while in a rage filled mob, then getting shot is a risk that one takes.

        1. I thought liberals believe “they deserved it” is a racist argument.

        2. Leftist twats like you will get the shaft first. You better pray it’s your side doing the shafting, because the other side is not going to be humane, you worthless fuck hole.

          1. The devils break their tools when they’re done with them. He’d be far better off with the ministrations of MAGA than the childish cruelty of his own side.

  42. “To protect themselves from being sued over content, they would remove anything remotely controversial. Users would be spied on constantly.”

    Which is different from what they are doing now, how?

  43. or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof

    By definition, everything that happened outside the Federal Courthouse in Portland was sedition. The mayor of Portland was guilty of sedition.

    Fuck you, Reason. Fuck you ENB. Fuck you WK. Keep soft-peddling the narrative that the activity at the Capitol was of a different nature than the summer protests. I am going to laugh my ass off and will not write a word to defend you when they shut down your magazine. You haven’t condemned this enough. Not even close.

    1. What happened at the WI capitol is sedition, too.

      1. The Whitehouse was assaulted in two separate attempts last summer, and MSNBC just cooed about the attacker’s passion.

        I wonder what would happen today if MAGA copied the June and August attempts to breach the Whitehouse.

        1. Not only did they coo about the “passion”, they made fun of Trump for being driven into the bunker.

          1. Which, if true, likely wasn’t his decision to make.

      2. And there they actually chased legislators around trying to trap them in a building.

    2. True. But why didn’t Trump, through Barr, pursue a sedition charge in Portland? Political considerations? Incompetence? Secretly siding with the enemy? Being polite?

      1. Because none of it’s actually sedition, including the Reichstag fire on the sixth.

        1. So, you are taking the whack alt-right position that it was all a false flag operation?

      2. Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are.

        What did Trump actually do when he had the power to do it? What is Biden doing now that he has the power? I hold little hope for an answer that describes reality.

        1. He bragged about how many prosecutions of Portland rioters his administration would be pursuing. Not for sedition, but other charges.

      3. Because he isn’t an authoritarian looking at ways to use the laws against who he perceives as enemies. That’s a lefty trait.

        1. He didn’t actually take legal action, but he asserted that he could, so, by lefty standards, they are exactly the same thing. Except Trump was worse because Trump.

          1. Dead mormons

            1. What’s the origin story on all the Mormon hate?

              (I’m just joking aboot hating Canadians, but you seem serious.)

          2. So, Trump’s short attention span and lack of follow-up can be spy into virtues.

    3. The people at the capitol were trying to harm lawmakers and stop an election from being certified.

      It’s ok Chuck. Everyone knows you must be slow if you’re LDS. Because your religion is goddamn nonsense.

      Kill Mormons. Refresh.

      1. Wait a second. What makes you think he’s a Mormon?

    4. For the record:
      – I have never excused the rioting in Portland. Honestly, I have not pondered whether the riots were “sedition”.
      – I don’t think the sedition charges against the Capitol rioters are a good idea. Just prosecute them for breaking and entering, vandalism, and, in one case, manslaughter of a police officer.
      – I do think the invasion of the Capitol while Congress was in session, counting the electoral college votes, is a very serious matter. But if I were prosecuting I’d prosecute only the most egregious offenders.

      1. Lol. God damn man. I honestly think you believe your own shit. Fucking hilarious.

  44. “But reviving the use of sedition charges like this could backfire against free speech and protests more broadly”

    That’s the feature, not the bug.

    Jusr this morning I saw that Facebook just declared that disagreeing with Biden’s transgender policy is ‘Incitement’, and is blocking commenters who do so.

    Anything, and I mean anything, that you say against the Democrats is now treason.

    1. These fuckers won’t be satisfied until all liberals burn their Harry Potter books.

    2. Can you link to that?

  45. All Democrats plus at least 17 Republican senators need to vote to convict Trump in order for it to happen.

    Fact Check: False

    As false as claiming the Senate is split 50/50 and Mitch McConnell is thereby forced to enter into a powersharing arrangement with Chuck Schumer. There are only 48 Democratic Senators, which means the Republicans still control the Senate 50-48-2. Words mean things and Bernie Sanders and Angus King are not Democrats.

    1. I get what you’re saying, but let’s get real–Sanders and King are Democrats in all but name. That’s why Bernie ran for the Democratic presidential nomination, not the Democratic Socialist one.

    2. I don’t think that the majority and minority in the Senate are necessarily defined by party. That’s just how it normally works. If we somehow did have more than two nationally viable parties, then I expect coalition majorities would be the norm.

  46. > A New Jersey teachers union says schools might not reopen for “maybe another year.”

    Mississippi: At least we’re not New Jersey!

  47. I see one of Biden’s executive orders is to outlaw calling the chinaflue the chinaflue and the government will review all their documents to make sure no one said or wrote Chinaflue. When you don’t know what you are doing or should be doing make busy work like looking over government documents to make sure a word isn’t there.

    1. One of the first acts of the Biden Administration – if not its very first act – was to remove the 1776 commission’s report from the White House’s web page. They recognize the power of words just as George Orwell did – control the language and you control people’s ability to think about that which the language describes. It’s like trying to think of a color that doesn’t exist. If there are no words to describe your thoughts, how can you transmit those thoughts?

    2. I am unclear how this does not rather wildly violate the First Amendment.

      1. Because it’s a “political question.” The only controversies the Supreme Court is comfortable resolving these days are those that give men the right to pee in a women’s restroom, provided they identify as women first …. because, of course, that was always intended since the dawn of the republic.

      2. Because it’s a standard for government documents and not a restriction on other speech/press.
        The revisionism is a bit creepy, though.

  48. U.S. ‘actively looking’ at mandating COVID-19 testing for domestic air travel

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The Biden administration is “actively looking” at expanding mandatory COVID-19 testing to travelers on U.S. domestic flights, a senior Centers for Disease Control and Prevention official said on Tuesday.

    On a call with reporters, Dr. Marty Cetron, director for the Division of Global Migration and Quarantine at CDC, was asked about whether new domestic travel testing requirements might be employed. Cetron replied that there were “conversations that are ongoing and looking at what the types and locations of testing might be… We’re actively looking at it.”

    Last week, President Joe Biden directed U.S. agencies to make recommendations to “impose additional public health measures for domestic travel” and to consider new requirements for people crossing land borders. Reuters reported Friday that administration officials said that could include requiring negative COVID-19 tests before flying domestically.

    This looks like one of the Democrats’ “float this idea to our media shills and see how people react” psyops that became common during the Obama administration. If the pushback is too strong, they’ll retract it and say it was “only looked at as an option, but never seriously considered,” and if it’s ignored, they’ll push through with it.

    Imposing coof tests for domestic travel would crater the airline industry. We’ve already had to bail these guys out twice because Democrats are terrified of a common cold bug that’s killed a smaller percentage of Americans than the Hong Kong flu did in 1969, and that’s assuming the numbers aren’t a complete stock market-style pump operation. Who the fuck would want to go get a coof test just to fly from Salt Lake City to Phoenix? You’re actually more likely to spread the illness if you drive that same distance over two days.

    1. They actually think it will boost air travel. But you still have to wear a mask or two , even though you tested negative.

      1. The fact that they would require a coof test for domestic travel is proof positive that masks don’t work.

    2. $400 round trip tickets and a place to stay in Hawaii. I will still have to take the dam test to get over there in Feburary for a week though.

    3. Big Pharm has been aggressively lobbying the Biden administration and Governors to require covid vaccines as a prerequisite for engaging in virtually any activity or business because doing so will generate billions of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ in profit.

      1. Oh, I have no doubt there are medical industry lobbyists that have been pushing HARD for this domestic air testing policy and making the appropriate bribes to the appropriate officials. Same with Big Pharma getting its shills to push annual common cold vaccines on social media sites.

        Note how getting a flu shot wasn’t considered “necessary” until about 10 years ago. Is there any empirical evidence that doing this has lowered the average annual flu cases and flu deaths to any significant degree? Like, “we had 75K flu deaths a year until 2010, now it’s only 35K a year” levels of reduction? Because all I could find for the last 30 years was a massive spike in the mid-90s when it was over 50,000 a year, but before and after that it’s about the same lower average. Why do we need a “flu shot” for something that averages about 30,000 deaths a year, mostly old people from pnuemonia-type symptoms, but we don’t force fatties to run a mile every day to lower the 600K-per-year death toll from heart disease?

  49. A federal judge blocked Biden’s 100-day moratorium on some deportations after Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton challenged the order and sought a temporary order forbidding the Department of Homeland Security from enforcing it.

    How does one “enforce” a non-deportation, let alone forbid such enforcement? Is this like a vacuum leak, “an absence of absence, a lack of a lack”?

  50. Vandalism, assault, and disorderly conduct charges are certainly warranted for some of the Capitol protesters, but if anyone thinks this is what a real sedition attempt would look like they are seriously fooling themselves, because they’re not fooling anyone else.

    1. Had a crowd of far right seditionists attempted to overthrow the US government the crows would still be feasting.

    2. if anyone thinks this is what a real sedition attempt would look like they are seriously fooling themselves, because they’re not fooling anyone else.

      If those protestors were 1/100 as violent as the ones in Portland, they’d be getting tried for treason right now.

      1. If those protesters had been 1/100th as violent as the ones in Portland, the National Guard would have acceded to Nancy Pelosi’s demands that they be equipped with machine guns.

        1. Unsure how Pelosi’s laughable request (no guns for civilians but MACHINE GUN NESTS TO PROTECT POLS) has not become a bigger thing.

      2. Some people, did somethings, but this presents an opportunity for the Democrats to label their opponents, criminal. Not all, just ‘far right-wing and White Nationalist’ .. . for now.

        Every aspiring NAZI needs their own van der Lubbe.

  51. Meanwhile in Philadelphia:

    Philadelphia let ‘college kids’ distribute vaccines. The result was a ‘disaster,’ volunteers say.

    “Philadelphia is home to some of the most venerated medical institutions in the country. Yet when it came time to set up the city’s first and largest coronavirus mass vaccination site, officials turned to the start-up Philly Fighting COVID, a self-described “group of college kids” with minimal health-care experience.

    Chaos ensued.

    Seniors were left in tears after finding that appointments they’d made through a bungled sign-up form wouldn’t be honored. The group switched to a for-profit model without publicizing the change and added a privacy policy that would allow it to sell users’ personal data. One volunteer alleged that the 22-year-old CEO had pocketed vaccine doses. Another described a “free-for-all” where unsupervised 18- and 19-year-olds vaccinated one another and posed for photos.”

    And we thought Oregon was a shit show.

    1. Democrats.Meh.

  52. But what s out the charges for attempted kidnapping, murder, and assassination?

  53. Democratic administrations love them some sedition prosecutions.

  54. Needs to be repeated.

    Authorities are sifting through reams of evidence—including more than 200,000 digital tips gathered from social media, members of the public, confidential informants, local news and surveillance footage, according to court filings and people involved in the cases. In recent days, investigators also have started receiving nonpublic evidence gathered from more than 500 grand jury subpoenas and search warrants, officials said, bolstering efforts to gain a clearer picture of what happened on Jan. 6.

    Prosecutors already have charged more than 150 people with federal crimes related to participating in the riot, and officials said Tuesday they expected the flood of cases to slow as authorities turn to what was happening behind the scenes.

    “We are going to reach a plateau in the very near future,” the acting U.S. attorney in Washington, D.C., Michael Sherwin, said, adding that investigators are increasingly focusing on “possible coordination among militia groups” and people from different states who “had a plan to travel here before the sixth and engage in criminal conduct.”

    The sprawling investigation includes FBI agents who normally handle a range of other matters, including securities fraud, public corruption, drugs, and gangs, court filings show.

    1. It sure does. I really can’t believe this shit. Coordination of militia groups? For what? Attending a protest unarmed? They really think that that chaotic shitshow was some carefully planned conspiracy? Of course they don’t, but they will go with it anyway.

      1. In the Soviet Union, mass arrests always followed grandiose party proclamations that some newly discovered subversive group(s) were covertly conspiring to overthrow the government.

        Every few months, there would emerge a new group of wreckers, saboteurs, or insurrectionists, as though the mere mention of their existence prompted them to suddenly amplify their operations.

        We are seeing the exact same thing happening here, which simply means there will be innocent people arrested in waves and falsely charged with committing horrible crimes and complex conspiracies.

        They will never round up all the conspiracists, of course, for that would require a conclusion to the systemic prosecution of political dissidents whereas
        totalitarianism requires constant motion, new enemies, novel conspiracies.

      2. There were armed people there.

        1. No, some had guns in their vehicles.

          1. And Molotov cocktails.

    2. The sprawling investigation includes FBI agents who normally handle a range of other matters, including securities fraud, public corruption, drugs, and gangs, court filings show.


      Biden to Bureaucrats: Obstruct the presidency and I will give you a new War on Domestic Terror. Think of the asset forfeiture!

      Biden to Big Tech: If you can piss them off and shut them up, we can impede the regulators and insure easy access.

      Biden to Marxist Antifa and BLM: Wanna keep pretending you’re the good guys? We have Big Tech on the line. We’ll make sure your drugs make it to the party!

      Biden to 71 million Americans: Fuck you, traitors! What did you think was gonna happen?


    The Acting Secretary of Homeland Security has issued a National Terrorism Advisory System (NTAS) Bulletin due to a heightened threat environment across the United States, which DHS believes will persist in the weeks following the successful Presidential Inauguration. Information suggests that some ideologically-motivated violent extremists with objections to the exercise of governmental authority and the presidential transition, as well as other perceived grievances fueled by false narratives, could continue to mobilize to incite or commit violence.

    Issued: January 27, 2021 11:00 am
    Expires: April 30, 2021 01:00 pm
    Throughout 2020, Domestic Violent Extremists (DVEs) targeted individuals with opposing views engaged in First Amendment-protected, non-violent protest activity. DVEs motivated by a range of issues, including anger over COVID-19 restrictions, the 2020 election results, and police use of force have plotted and on occasion carried out attacks against government facilities.
    Long-standing racial and ethnic tension—including opposition to immigration—has driven DVE attacks, including a 2019 shooting in El Paso, Texas that killed 23 people.
    DHS is concerned these same drivers to violence will remain through early 2021 and some DVEs may be emboldened by the January 6, 2021 breach of the U.S. Capitol Building in Washington, D.C. to target elected officials and government facilities.
    DHS remains concerned that Homegrown Violent Extremists (HVEs) inspired by foreign terrorist groups, who committed three attacks targeting government officials in 2020, remain a threat.
    Threats of violence against critical infrastructure, including the electric, telecommunications and healthcare sectors, increased in 2020 with violent extremists citing misinformation and conspiracy theories about COVID-19 for their actions.
    DHS, as well as other Federal agencies and law enforcement partners will continue to take precautions to protect people and infrastructure across the United States.
    DHS remains committed to preventing violence and threats meant to intimidate or coerce specific populations on the basis of their religion, race, ethnicity, identity or political views.
    DHS encourages state, local, tribal, and territorial homeland security partners to continue prioritizing physical security measures, particularly around government facilities, to protect people and critical infrastructure.
    How You Can Help
    We ask the public to report suspicious activity and threats of violence, including online activity, to local law enforcement, FBI Field Offices, or their local Fusion Center.
    Your choice can make a difference. Choose non-violent ways to make your voice heard and support friends and family in doing the same.
    Communities are strongest when they are not divided: Strengthen your community by standing together against violence.
    Be Prepared
    Avoiding large crowds, including protests, is safest due to ongoing pandemic conditions. However, if taking part in protests do so peacefully, safely, and wear masks.
    Be responsible for your personal safety. Make note of your surroundings and security personnel. Carry emergency contact as well as medical and other needs information with you.
    Connect, Plan, Train, and Report to prepare businesses & employees.
    Stay Informed
    Local, state and federal agencies will provide specific information about emerging threats as additional information is identified. The public is encouraged to listen to local law enforcement and public safety officials.
    Last year, DHS released a Homeland Threat Assessment to the public examining the threat environment through 2021.
    The DHS Lexicon on terrorism includes terminology for DVEs and HVEs.
    Types of Advisories
    Describes current developments or general trends regarding threats of terrorism.

    Elevated Alert
    Warns of a credible terrorism threat against the United States.

    Imminent Alert
    Warns of a credible, specific and impending terrorism threat against the United States.

    If You See Something, Say Something™. Report suspicious activity to local law enforcement or call 911

    1. The irony here is that this is posted by Nardz, who is one of the few commenters here who regularly makes threatening comments.

  56. Small websites and apps need Section 230, writes the CEO of MeWe, Mark Weinstein, in the Wall Street Journal:

    Reminder, Section 230 doesn’t apply in foreign countries. So that means yes, Twitter can still be sued by content placed on its platform by its user base.

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  57. hey KMW the purple hair looked good on tv the other night.

    1. A little puppy love?

    2. She is still a commie like most unreason staff are.

  58. Look at that. WK wanders through the comments sprinkling his little turds throughout, concurrent with KillMyselfRedneck dribbling piss over every single one of my posts. He even responds to the screeds.

    You outed yourself, fuckstick. Not that anybody took you seriously anyway.

    Flag! Refresh!

    1. That’s some solid detective work you did there.

  59. “Not only is their historical use full of horror stories, but their very nature makes them ripe for abuse at any time, as a catchall threat against anyone who challenges government policy or criticizes government actions.”

    Trump’s sedition was led by an incumbent POTUS and many of its key actors were police, politicians, or others from government. This was sedition by government against citizen voters, not citizens challenging government policy or criticizing government actions. The historical horror stories of sedition charges against private citizens by abusive government are totally inapplicable to these government seditionists. That is an argument that past government bad actors abusing private citizens licenses Trump and his fellow government bad actors to continue in abusing private citizens. In addition to seditious conspiracy and other appropriate charges, they should all be charged for violating civil rights under the color of law.

  60. The commies and traitors that run the government really think Americans will accept handing out convictions against the patriots who protested at the capitol.

    Good luck with that. Ahahaha. Acquittals just like for the bundys.

    Fight and the corrupt government of commies and traitors folds like a cheap suit.

    Democrats started civil war 2.0 and their traitor bureaucrats cannot save them.

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  61. Based on that definition of seditious conspiracy (“or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof.”), seems like a lot of folks got off easy…

    [October, 2011]

    Protesters gained entrance to the Hart Senate office building’s atrium and dropped two banners, one reading “End War Now” and the other “People for the People.”

    NBC News reports as soon as demonstrators unfurled their signs, Capitol Police placed them under arrest. At least six have been arrested for unlawful conduct – demonstrating. Dozens of other demonstrators ran through the building’s upper levels chanting and waving smaller signs.

    The offices of Democratic senators Dianne Feinstein and Harry Reid are located inside the Hart building, as well as Republican Marco Rubio.

    The political protests rumble into a second week in the nation’s capital. The demonstrations, smaller in size than the Occupy Wall Street protest in New York City, have for the most part been restrained and peaceful. On Saturday, one demonstrator was arrested after a group attempted to enter the Smithsonian Air and Space museum. Guards repelled the demonstrators with pepper spray, and the museum shut down early.

    [October, 2018]

    More than 300 people were taken into custody by police on Capitol Hill after descending on a pair of Senate office buildings Thursday afternoon to protest the confirmation process of Brett Kavanaugh, President Trump’s Supreme Court nominee.

    The vast majority of the arrests, 293, were a result of protests in the Hart Senate Office Building, where protesters crowded in the atrium. Loud chants could be heard throughout the building, which is structured so the hallways of each floor open up and look out onto the first floor.

    Those arrested in Hart were charged with crowding, obstructing or incommoding, according to Capitol Police. Another nine people were arrested on the fourth floor of Dirksen Senate Office Building and charged with unlawful demonstrations.

    [June, 2018 ]

    An afternoon of protests ended in many arrests in the Hart Senate Office Building on Thursday as a group of mostly female protesters flooded the atrium of the work space to protest President Donald Trump’s immigration policies.

    United States Capitol Police charged nearly 575 individuals with “unlawfully demonstrating,” according to a Capitol Police statement Thursday.

    See photo of Sen Warren actively cheering the invaders on. Isn’t that “inciting”, Senator Warren??

    [January, 2020]

    Demonstrators protesting President Donald Trump and the prospect of war in Iran occupied the Hart Senate Office building Monday. Active protests are prohibited in the Senate office buildings, but demonstrators maintained that they would work within those limitations by not chanting or waving signs, occasionally invoking the ire of Capitol Police but not the handcuffs.


    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Black-clad activists among hundreds of demonstrators protesting Donald Trump’s swearing-in on Friday clashed with police a few blocks from the White House, in an outburst of violence rare for an inauguration.

    At least 217 people were arrested in the melees, police said.

    The burst of civil disorder followed a fierce presidential campaign that ended in a stunning victory for Republican Trump over Democrat Hillary Clinton on Nov. 8 and left the country divided.

    Many of Trump’s supporters traveled to Washington to cheer their new president on Inauguration Day. Tens of thousands of detractors are expected to march peacefully on Saturday.

    In the violence, knots of activists in black clothes and masks threw rocks and bottles at officers wearing riot gear, who responded with volleys of tear gas and stun grenades as a helicopter hovered low overhead.

    At one flash point, a protester hurled an object through the passenger window of a police van, which sped away in reverse as demonstrators cheered. Earlier, activists used chunks of pavement and baseball bats to shatter the windows of a Bank of America branch and a McDonald’s outlet, all symbols of American capitalism.

    Multiple vehicles were set on fire, including a black limousine. A knot of people dragged garbage cans into a street a few blocks from the White House and set them ablaze, later throwing a red cap bearing Trump’s “Make America Great Again” campaign slogan into the flames.

    Police said six officers were injured in scuffles with protesters. The people arrested would be held overnight before making court appearances on Saturday, Peter Newsham, interim chief of the Metropolitan Police Department, told a news conference. Newsham added that police would continue to monitor security around the night’s celebrations.

    Friday’s protests played out just blocks from Pennsylvania Avenue.

    1. It’s only sedition if you act against the will of the party.

  62. The press is barely covering the FBI’s arrest of John Sullivan, the founder of Insurgence USA, an activist group against police brutality. Try putting “John Sullivan arrest” as a search term into google news…

    John Earle Sullivan was charged by complaint with one count of knowingly entering or remaining in any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority, one count of violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds, and one count of interfering with law enforcement engaged in the lawful performance of their official duties incident to and during the commission of civil disorder. The Complaint alleges that during the events at the U.S. Capitol, Sullivan, wearing a ballistics vest and gas mask, entered the U.S. Capitol through a window that had been broken out, pushing past U.S. Capitol Police once inside. The Complaint also alleges that Sullivan admits to filming and being depicted in video footage that shows him present, outside of the Speaker’s Lobby within the U.S. Capitol, at the shooting of a woman by a U.S. Capitol Police officer.

    The man showed up at a peaceful protest with ballistic vest and gas mask and a camera crew to “document” his activities? Who needs that stuff at a peaceful protest?

    “PolitiFact reviewed Sullivan’s video of the mob into the Capitol and Babbitt’s shooting. It doesn’t show Sullivan clearly engaged in the violence or leading the run up to the Capitol, although it does show him animated as he spoke with police and rioters from the frontlines.

    “At points in the video, Sullivan can be heard telling others he was only filming and discouraging violence. At other points, he appeared to encourage what was happening. As rioters scaled a wall outside, for example, he cheered them on. “We did this s—, together,” he said after the barricades came down. “This is f—— history. We’re all a part of this f—— history.”

    “Let’s burn this s— down,” Sullivan can be heard saying on the video before heading inside.

    Social media users have linked Sullivan to antifa and Black Lives Matter because of his past protest history and social media activity. His Twitter accounts have frequently used #antifa, #blm, and other anti-Trump or anti-police hashtags, PolitiFact found. The cover photo for one of his accounts advertised a Jan. 6 Insurgence USA event to “Kick These Fascists Out of DC.”

    Sullivan has also been filmed using incendiary language in the past. At a small August rally in Washington, D.C., he described the need to “rip” Trump out of office, according to Fox News. Photos highlighted on his personal website show him holding a firearm.

    [Former CNN documentary filmmaker Jade] Sacker [who, with Sullivan, entered the Capitol with the “rioters” said she has followed Sullivan for four months and accompanied him to many protests, including some affiliated with Black Lives Matter. He is not pro-Trump, she said, but he cares about “dismantling the system.” She said she had not personally seen him be violent.

  63. Sedition is the law to silence dissidents, people like you and me who speak truth when the oligarchs don’t want us to.

    Violating our 1a rights with censorship and persecution has spread across social media like wildfire. Hell, they even censored the president of the United States.

    When I heard about Epoch, ostensibly a free speech platform, I gave it a few weeks.

    I noticed fluctuations in comments that indicated algorithms to surreptitiously and selectively display comments to users to control the narrative.

    Eventually I found out their real criteria for outright censorship. I provided irrefutable evidence that the holocaust is a false narrative and was banned. It was verboten.

    That should indicate the real source of this global media censorship and coercion violating our rights. When we point the finger at Jews, with the facts of science and logic that the oligarchs can’t allow.

    Epoch is just another tool of censorship.

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