Tonight on The Independents: MH-17, Israel-Hamas, Immigration Kids, Ending the Fed, Cigarette Chokeholds, Net Roots Comedy, Nanny-State Shopping Carts, John Bolton, Aftershow and More!

Matt Welch | 7.21.2014 8:21 PM

Tonight's live episode of The Independents (Fox Business Network, 9 p.m. ET, 6 p.m. PT, with re-airs three hours later) features yours truly in the hosting chair (Mary Katharine Ham will fill in for Kennedy), so this blog post will be bullet-pointy.

* Michael Weiss of The Interpreter will talk all things MH-17.

* Patrick Byrne of Overstock.com will trash the Federal Reserve.

* Former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton will assess U.S. diplomatic efforts in the Israel-Hamas fight.

* The co-hosts will talk about the role that cigarette taxation had in the police choking-death of Eric Garner.

* Party Panelists Jimmy Failla (comedian) and Noelle Nikpour (columnist/GOP strategist) will talk about the immigration crisis, lefty humor, and nanny state shopping carts.

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Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

< i The Independents on Facebook? Now I've seen everything!
Pl?ya Manhattan. 11 years ago

I hope the Net Roots Comedy is the dancing.
Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago

John Bolton booked the show without Kennedy in it.
Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago

Can you give an example of a funny joke by a comedian who appears on TI?

If I smile or laugh, you win.
1. Pl?ya Manhattan. 11 years ago
  
  That's not very nice. You need to be more like the priest they had on last week.
  1. Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago
    
    All right, I'm sure they're funny, but TI is too solemn an occasion for them to waste their humor.
    1. Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago
      
      I don't aspire to be as telegenic as Fr. Jonathan, but I'll see if I can assimilate your advice.
      
      I want to ask "how was the funeral," or "how is everyone doing?" but the questions seem...inappropriately phrased.
    2. Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago
      
      I don't aspire to be as telegenic as Fr. Jonathan, but I'll see if I can assimilate your advice.
      
      I want to ask "how was the funeral," or "how is everyone doing?" but the questions seem...inappropriately phrased.
      1. Warrren 11 years ago
        
        So just go ahead and ask twice, you bastard.
      2. Pl?ya Manhattan. 11 years ago
        
        I'll admit when I make mistakes. And in this case, I went to the church on Sat. morning, and it was empty. It's next Saturday.
        
        Good news is that viewing and mass are separate, so I don't have to sit through mass anymore.
Warrren 11 years ago

I'm glad this is here, I was tired of biden my time with the previous post.
1. Pl?ya Manhattan. 11 years ago
  
  I'm collecting rotten vegetables for you. Keep it up.
Dances-with-Trolls 11 years ago

, lefty humor,

Ace at AofSHQ did a bit on this topic today. I think it applies to the excessively-political in general, which the Left very much is these days.

Of course, another huge trope of joking is the provocatively cynical statement -- stating, hyperbolically, something dark about human motivations.

And progressive thugs can't bear any joking on that score either, because what they're sure about, more than anything else in the world, is the absolute metaphysical purity of their motives in all their behaviors and demands of their fellow citizens.

And joking about that isn't funny. Indeed, it's heretical and blood libel.
1. robc 11 years ago
  
  That is one big positive of libertarians. Most of us can laugh at ourselves. Monocles and orphans and all.
  1. WDATPDIM!? 11 years ago
    
    It's a tonic tried and true.
  2. Corning 11 years ago
    
    Apartment ferret farms are not only real but the future!!
    1. Warrren 11 years ago
      
      And I sunk all my money into a platypus farm!
Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago

"Time runs out for Christian Iraq: Isis deadline passes with mass flight

"The last Christians in northern Iraq are fleeing from places where their communities have lived for almost 2,000 years, as a deadline passed for them to either convert to Islam, pay a special tax or be killed....

"It is the greatest mass flight of Christians in the Middle East since the Armenian massacres and the expulsion of Christians from Turkey during and after the First World War. Isis, which now rules an area larger than Great Britain, has already eliminated many of the ancient Christian communities of eastern Syria, where those who had not escaped were given a similar choice between conversion, payment of a special tax or death."

Yezidis and Shiites also face persecution.

http://americamagazine.org/iss.....dden-books
Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago

This is a bit better:

"More than 200 people ? many of them Muslims ? gathered on Sunday in front of a Catholic church in Baghdad carrying "I am Iraqi, I am Christian" slogans to show solidarity after a radical Islamist group evacuated Christians from their homes in the northern city of Mosul."

http://english.alarabiya.net/e.....riest.html
1. Heroic Mulatto 11 years ago
  
  And the only comment:
  
  So are these shia taking christian "shahada" They just made takfiir on themselves. Call them like they are from the beginning, Shia-ism is not Islam it is a polymer of zorastrianism, judaism, christianity and finally islam. Besides that calling for a'asabiyyah is forbidden in Islam. Unbelievable.
  
  This is why Iraq can't have nice things.
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

Why do they keep bringing Bolton back? Is this in the Fox contract?
1. Almanian! 11 years ago
  
  Cause President of RedEye, yo!
  
  I dunno. He's a warboner, statist idiot.
  
  However - he DID walk out on the UN when he was ambassador, which forever warms my heart, so I can't hate him entirely. Mostly, but not entirely.
2. GILMORE 11 years ago
  
  Short answer =
  
  yes.
  
  guessing. He's OWNED by Fox.
3. Warrren 11 years ago
  
  What does FOX say?
4. WDATPDIM!? 11 years ago
  
  It's part of their compliance with the Mustache Neutrality Act.
Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago

Independents...assemble!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOm1_ta4rGI
1. Almanian! 11 years ago
  
  MAKE ME, SLAVER!
  
  /unclear on the concept
2. Derpetologist 11 years ago
  
  Uh, this is Protestant song, you filthy Papist.
  1. Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago
    
    It's in one of our hymnals now.
    
    http://forums.catholic.com/sho.....133&page=3
    1. Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago
      
      A better link:
      
      http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=208133
      1. Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago
        
        "Because it is a great hymn despite the provenance. Besides, Martin Luther was a Catholic priest, it was just his politics that were off quite a lot. We shouldn't ban certain hymns just because of politics, especially when the hymn praises God Almighty."
Iucundus (ex Damned Fool) 11 years ago

Investigation Finds Florida Police Secretly KKK Members

You'd think being part of one uniformed goon squad that wants to terrorize the populace would be good enough.
1. Almanian! 11 years ago
  
  Well at least no torn allegiances for them, amirite?
2. GILMORE 11 years ago
  
  Forget it Jake; its Florida
3. Warrren 11 years ago
  
  I'm trying to be shocked by this.
  1. WDATPDIM!? 11 years ago
    
    The shock is that it's "secret."
Almanian! 11 years ago

Also, have I mentioned that Granddaughter #1's name is Kennedy? It is.

We're waiting a bit before we try the hoop earrings out on her. Right now they just catch on the stroller, and the crib, and her bottle, and...
GILMORE 11 years ago

"Tonight's live episode of The Independents features yours truly in the hosting chair ... so this blog post will be bullet-pointy."

Naturally?

(shrug)

"* Michael Weiss of The Interpreter will talk all things MH-17."

*Naturally* neckbeard is also an expert on Central American gangs.

the dude seems like he memorized a lot of Economist articles. He has the Gloss on *everything*.

prediction = *still neckbearded*

"* Former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton will assess U.S. diplomatic efforts in the Israel-Hamas fight.

prediction = FIGHT!!
1. jesse.in.mb 11 years ago
  
  I resent your anti-neckbeard bias.
  
  Also contact or be contacted by Thane/Carl.
Bam! 11 years ago

Top Gear: The Perfect Roadtrip is on BBC America right now.
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

Prediction: COSMO TAKEOVER!
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

Is that glitter on Welch's jacket?
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

They're trying to hide illegal surveillance.
Bam! 11 years ago

Ascot on Kmele?
Heroic Mulatto 11 years ago

ASCOT?
1. Grand Moff Serious Man 11 years ago
  
  Jinkies!
2. Warrren 11 years ago
  
  I grew up near Ascot Park racetrack in SoCal.
Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago

The President is right - if they're not handing over the evidence, they must be hiding something!
1. Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago
  
  Unfortunately, the Russians' hard drive crashed and erased the black box.
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

"We are the Independents." [wait for applause]
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

Thanks for not wearing a tie, Michael. #disrespect
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

Gentlemen, you can't lie in here, this is the Fib Room!
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

Didn't they already shoot something down before that?
Derpetologist 11 years ago

Awesome heavy metal song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdl6qdQVPV4
BigT 11 years ago

Vlad the impaler. 1640
Vald the Interceptor. 2014
1. seguin 11 years ago
  
  You know, I suffer from male pattern Valdness.
Virginian 11 years ago

Nanny state shopping carts?
1. BigT 11 years ago
  
  They comment on the'health' of your choices.
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

If by admitted you mean bragged about, yeah I suppose.
Bam! 11 years ago

He thinks we can shame Putin into complying?
1. Suthenboy 11 years ago
  
  The situation in Ukraine/Russia with regards to Crimea and eastern Ukraine really have nothing to do with Putin. The exact same thing would be happening no matter who was in power in Russia.
GILMORE 11 years ago

Maybe they should rename the show "Michael Weiss = Interrupted Occasionally"
Derpetologist 11 years ago

All states are mafia states:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IErlI34-0so
1. Heroic Mulatto 11 years ago
  
  And all states fuck bitches, get money. Fuck bitches, get money.
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

At home Kennedy was screaming at the television furiously trying to interrupt Weiss.
1. Suthenboy 11 years ago
  
  ^funniest comment all week.
2. Grand Moff Serious Man 11 years ago
  
  Come now. I'm sure Kennedy is currently having a nice dinner with her family, which involves asking her husband and kids questions and then interrupting them to go off on some tangent.
  1. Heroic Mulatto 11 years ago
    
    Kennedy is my mom?
    1. Warrren 11 years ago
      
      Does your mom like tan gents?
      1. Heroic Mulatto 11 years ago
        
        Well, based on my stepfather, she went Black and then went back.
        
        WDATPDIM!? 11 years ago
        
        So that's just a myth?
Rufus J. Firefly 11 years ago

So I tune in and see this guy talking about Russia (I always forget his name but he's good and I like him) and immediately sense something's amiss. He got to finish his thoughts as well as the energy seems more calm. And then I saw Matt sitting in Kennedy's chair and it all made sense.
1. Pl?ya Manhattan. 11 years ago
  
  Check your email (not from me, but topical)
Derpetologist 11 years ago

Perhaps The Independents should have a live audience, like The Daily Show.
1. Bam! 11 years ago
  
  Yeah, because what the show needs is another player that can interrupt.
2. Suthenboy 11 years ago
  
  Clapping seals? Talk a bit, toss some fish and get applause?
3. Derpetologist 11 years ago
  
  If there was an audience that could sit in stony silence in response to Kennedy's lame remarks, it might deter her from making them.
  1. Bam! 11 years ago
    
    Nope. She's the type that keeps upping her game until she gets a response, any response, from her audience.
4. Warrren 11 years ago
  
  Does it count as a live audience if they're dead inside?
jesse.in.mb 11 years ago

Welch looks sharp. I like the haircut.
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

He's sending the National Guard to make a stand at the Texas house door.
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

Those kids don't vote. Use your head.
Bam! 11 years ago

Kmele got rid of his ascot. Coward.
1. Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago
  
  It was a clip-on anyway.
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

Finally. Foster pulls the race card.
1. Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago
  
  "Excuse my while I whip this out"
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYlDbv7MqE8
  1. Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago
    
    It's funny because they're both African-American.
2. Grand Moff Serious Man 11 years ago
  
  I thought it was race genie?
3. BigT 11 years ago
  
  Because beating and dicing dogs on people is the same as lying down in front of a bus. Kmele fail.
  1. PapayaSF 11 years ago
    
    And because objecting to masses of foreigners entering the country is the same as stopping kids from going to their local school.
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

Gorillaz.
1. robc 11 years ago
  
  The band?
  1. Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago
    
    Bumper music. Clint Eastwood.
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

What do you call that kind of shirt?
1. Heroic Mulatto 11 years ago
  
  Terrible?
Bam! 11 years ago

Why is wearing a henchman uniform?
1. Trouser-Pod 11 years ago
  
  Overstock, duh!
2. Grand Moff Serious Man 11 years ago
  
  I think he's an officer in the Colonial Fleet.
robc 11 years ago

A good person leaves an inheritance for their children's children

Too late to post in inheritance thread, but that is from proverbs, which I think proves the death tax to be antisemetic.
BilboTeabaggins 11 years ago

Billy Boy has a mistress code named "Energizer". The jokes write themselves.

http://pagesix.com/2014/07/21/.....SocialFlow
1. PapayaSF 11 years ago
  
  What are the odds that Clinton goes like Nelson Rockefeller? I'd say 1 in 3 or better.
2. VG Zaytsev 11 years ago
  
  Energizer, who is described as charming and friendly, sometimes brought cookies to the agents, according to the book excerpts.
  
  One told Kessler: "It was a warm day, and she was wearing a low-cut tank top, and as she leaned over, her breasts were very exposed. They appeared to be very perky and very new and full?There was no doubt in my mind they were enhanced."
  1. VG Zaytsev 11 years ago
    
    Even better:
    
    Kessler also reveals that Hillary is routinely rude to the agents who are sworn to take a bullet for her.
    
    "Because she is so nasty to agents and hostile to law enforcement officers and military officers in general, agents consider being assigned to her detail a form of punishment," Kessler wrote.
    And they don't get any cookies.
    
    Who'd want Hildabeast's cookie anyways.
    1. PapayaSF 11 years ago
      
      You know she'd never bake them herself.
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

I can never get enough of central planning bashing.
GILMORE 11 years ago

The Independents Attire Review, 21 July 2014

This *Was* Your Idea-Edition

- Matt: EARTHSHAKING DEVELOPMENT = Matt gets a New Tie! In what must be a Fox-Subsidized Bonus, Matt is wearing Strict TEAM RED attire; unsurprisingly, it resonates perfectly with Matt's recently re-tightened "1950s Young Republican" haircut. We have said that the hated Black Suit of Doom works best when it provides a platform for bold, striking contrasts, and this is its long-awaited Apotheosis. BRAVO.

- Mary Mary, Why You Buggin?: Some people hyphenate their names, but according to Matt, Mary "Slashes" hers, which according to the Beford Handbook means "either/or". She's well put-together for the evening but unfortunately is trying to shine in the shadow of 2 enlarged personalities used to battling for space with Kennedy. We wish her the best.

- Kmele: WTF!? Shit is on *fiyaa!* Early July saw the intro of Bow-Tie Kmele, which had its highs and lows - Now we see Ascot Kmele, and we are dutifully impressed. It requires a level of confidence and boldness which is far beyond that of your average Man of Style.... one which apparently collapsed by the first commercial?? KMELE, WE WERE WITH YOU 100%!! WHY!??!??!! (sob)

Ngiyabonga ka khulu
1. Heroic Mulatto 11 years ago
  
  He didn't have it on long enough for me to tell if it was a gold paisely-like print or a cheetah animal print. The latter would have been pimp as fuck.
  1. GILMORE 11 years ago
    
    i think paisley.
    
    It was epic.
Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago

This guy:Ron Paul::Jeri Ryan:nerds
Warrren 11 years ago

Holy crap, Giants, why would you bother with Uggla?
1. Grand Moff Serious Man 11 years ago
  
  Because he'll bat .229 for you but .800 against the Dodgers.
  1. Warrren 11 years ago
    
    So a spite-move? Cool.
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

Ham: What you want to do is undoable, so what do you actually plan to do?
GILMORE 11 years ago

Bonus =

- Patrick Byrne: is short 1 White 10-gallon hat and red neck-kerchief from saving this town from Kmele and his evil railroad-barons
Grand Moff Serious Man 11 years ago

Prediction: John Bolton wants to nuke some bitches.
Warrren 11 years ago

Scorpion: Another show with a bunch high IQ/high competency types that get involved in capers and solving crimes.

How many of these can there be a market for?
Derpetologist 11 years ago

Today in stupid anti-libertarian cartoons
1. Heroic Mulatto 11 years ago
  
  Why is a weak-ass fucker who can't lift 3 bags off of him my problem?
  1. Bam! 11 years ago
    
    Social contract!!!1
2. Grand Moff Serious Man 11 years ago
  
  Surprised their admitting government regulation is a weight on someone.
3. Trouser-Pod 11 years ago
  
  Why do I get the impression this asshole chuckled to himself just after finishing all that inking, silently assuring himself he's oh so clever?
4. Warrren 11 years ago
  
  It's shit like this that keeps me from engaging with those people.
  
  They are aggressively stupid and/or ignorant and unable to appreciate it.
  
  Discussions with them on any issue are pointless.
5. Derpetologist 11 years ago
  
  Wage slavery is an oxymoron.
  
  I look on the bright side. At least the guy admits govt is a burden.
6. PapayaSF 11 years ago
  
  I can't even....
Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago

Man, that's some awesome grass!
Grand Moff Serious Man 11 years ago

Where's Leonard Nimoy?
1. Derpetologist 11 years ago
  
  "A solar eclipse. The cosmic ballet continues."
  1. Bam! 11 years ago
    
    "Anyone want to switch seats?"
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

They're still going to loose Babcock next season.
1. Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago
  
  Lose. Weird, that's one I never mix up.
  1. Warrren 11 years ago
    
    Loose the BabCock!
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

Mono-

D'oh!
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

And choking seagulls everywhere.
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

Hot pants.
1. Warrren 11 years ago
  
  Who wants those?
Pl?ya Manhattan. 11 years ago

"Courtesy FOX Network" Via youtube.
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

That dog is trying suffocate that child. He thinks he's a cat.
GILMORE 11 years ago

My thoughts on Mary's slashed name.

Mary Ham
vs
Katherine Ham.
vs
Mary Katherine Ham

I think she should roll with "MK Ham" It sounds like a Weapon
1. Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago
  
  @mkhammer is her Twitter handle.
  1. Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago
    
    Look it up yourself if you think I'm kidding!
  2. GILMORE 11 years ago
    
    He twitter photo... leaves much to be desired.
    
    I mentioned before it looks like either Bad Kung Fu, or.... an impersonation of a retarded person. Which is maybe redundant
    1. PapayaSF 11 years ago
      
      Yeah, it's not very flattering. She needs a dialed-back glamour shot.
  3. Ted S. 11 years ago
    
    You can't touch that.
2. Trouser-Pod 11 years ago
  
  What kind of monster would weaponize ham???
  1. Bobarian 11 years ago
    
    Somthing about 'War on Muslims'
3. Heroic Mulatto 11 years ago
  
  Her last name is "Katherine". "Ham" is a set of post-nominal initials that stand for "Hard As a Motherfucker", kind of like how Ph.D stands for Philosophiae doctor
  1. Trouser-Pod 11 years ago
    
    Her last name is "Katherine". "Ham" is a set of post-nominal initials that stand for "Hard As a Motherfucker", kind of like how Ph.D stands for Philosophiae doctor
    
    Ha! Excellent.
  2. PapayaSF 11 years ago
    
    Or "Hard Ass Motherfucker."
Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago

Welch is channeling all the non-interrupty parts of Kennedy.
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

Ha, Foster outs himself as a communist.
GILMORE 11 years ago

AND HE CAN KICK YOUR ASS, MATT
1. Rufus J. Firefly 11 years ago
  
  I'd like to see Matt snap arms like Seagal does in 'Above the Law' and 'Marked for death.'
  1. GILMORE 11 years ago
    
    Out.For.Justice.
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

Under Siege III.
Derpetologist 11 years ago

And now, a new exciting game from the creator of Spot the Not!

Introducing- Name that Troll!

There's a risk-of-worldwide-depression crisis. The only thing that's known to fix this kind of problem is massive amounts of spending. We can put it on the payment plan, just like we did 2 unnecessary wars, because if we don't the effects of depression will cause far more misery worldwide and even worse fiscal problems.
1. Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago
  
  PB?
2. Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago
  
  PB?
3. Warrren 11 years ago
  
  Bush?
4. Bam! 11 years ago
  
  "Payment plan" is the tip off but I can't quite place it.
5. Pathogen 11 years ago
  
  American socialist.. or, Tony?
  1. Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago
    
    That's *two* answers - against the rules!
    
    "String...or nothing!"
6. Derpetologist 11 years ago
  
  And the troll was....
  
  Tony!
  
  Thanks for playing
  
  ? Name...that...Trolllll!
  1. Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago
    
    Are he and PB the same person?
  2. Pathogen 11 years ago
    
    I was ? right..
Bam! 11 years ago

Bolton's not an ambassador anymore. Since when did these government positions become titles you hold on to for life?
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

Oh, they should have gotten Gilbert Gottfried to chime in on that.
Warrren 11 years ago

So Israel lost no one to this latest round of rocket attacks and then 13 in the invasion...
1. Derpetologist 11 years ago
  
  It appears they should just turtle up since the Palis can't hurt them that way.
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

Finally, this guy's inclusion on the panel is paying off.
1. Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago
  
  OK, he's funnier than the other panelists.
  1. Derpetologist 11 years ago
    
    damning with faint praise...
    1. Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago
      
      Honest critique.
GILMORE 11 years ago

Noelle drops a quality joke
Rufus J. Firefly 11 years ago

I'd fucking punch the screen and yell 'fuck you' at it each time.
1. Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago
  
  "Take off, eh."
  1. Rufus J. Firefly 11 years ago
    
    That too.
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

Yes, I can't wait until the corporations who donate the most get the carts to recommend their products.
Rufus J. Firefly 11 years ago

Was it me or did that lady just give the impression she was being forced into the after show?
GILMORE 11 years ago

Southern accents on women are mega-sexy

Discuss
1. Heroic Mulatto 11 years ago
  
  Nope.
2. Derpetologist 11 years ago
  
  Whoever did the voice of Alice on The Critic had a nice southern accent:
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_fAVEz-Y34
3. jesse.in.mb 11 years ago
  
  If by women you mean good looking men in well tailored jeans, then yes.
  1. GILMORE 11 years ago
    
    Tailored *Jeans*?
    
    Jesus, you ARE gay.
    1. GILMORE 11 years ago
      
      I was once told by a gay guy that my heterosexuality was obvious by my utter lack of attention to how i wore my jeans.
      
      He said, "you're giving me *nothing*"
      1. jesse.in.mb 11 years ago
        
        I wear off the shelf jeans, I think we've established that I'm a slob through and through, but some guys can really pull off some snug jeans.
4. GILMORE 11 years ago
  
  Holly Hunter? No?
  
  Susan Sarandon?
  1. Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago
    
    "Just a drifter. Just a no-account drifter."
  2. GILMORE 11 years ago
    
    TURN TO THE RIGHT!
Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago

Finally, a hair-coloring compound that helps me with my feminine itch!
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

GET HIM, FOSTER!
GILMORE 11 years ago

John Bolton gives matt's attire 4-Smiling Reagans
Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago

I love the way this guy transcends stereotypes -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v9fcgwbV_M
1. Heroic Mulatto 11 years ago
  
  Don't. Fuck. With. Panjabi MC.
  1. GILMORE 11 years ago
    
    The jay z version was better
  2. Apatheist ?_?? 11 years ago
    
    Ahh, high school memories.
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

The Cosmos don't care about death; they just want their cheap smokes!
Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago

Did he say *Tom* Bolton?
Derpetologist 11 years ago

The most incoherent anti-libertarian cartoon I know of:

http://www.grrrlmeetsworld.com.....e-pets.png
Derpetologist 11 years ago

The most incoherent anti-libertarian cartoon I know of:

http://www.grrrlmeetsworld.com.....e-pets.png
1. Heroic Mulatto 11 years ago
  
  I dunno, the cat panel is pretty accurate (about cats).
2. Trouser-Pod 11 years ago
  
  FUCK!!! Stop with the idiocy! I coulda gone my whole life not actually knowing these people exist...
  
  /Sorry, Derp. I know you're just making us aware
  1. PapayaSF 11 years ago
    
    Indeed. I know you're the Derpfinder General, but it gets depressing after a while.
3. Derpetologist 11 years ago
  
  I guess the joke is that libertarians are like ungrateful house pets?
  
  People are like pets in need of the loving care of the govt?
  
  It sure is great when authoritarian slime let the mask slip.
  1. Warrren 11 years ago
    
    You didn't poop that.
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

No one yelling "stop resisting"?
Grand Moff Serious Man 11 years ago

Why are progressives upset over what happened to this guy? He was a taxcheat and a scofflaw.

I'm sure they'd love to see that happen to CEOs and other class enemies they are convinced rob from the government and thus the people.
1. Heroic Mulatto 11 years ago
  
  Progressives aren't upset, they're make-believe outraged.
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

Spoiler alert! Now I know the plot of Friday's episode.
Bam! 11 years ago

Uhh, no it's not. The purpose of the tax on cigarettes is to help the government raise money.
GILMORE 11 years ago

So is that guy "dying" while they stand around, or is he already dead while the rifle through his pockets?
GILMORE 11 years ago

Matt's hair tonight can *cut glass*.
GILMORE 11 years ago

Sadly, they took just a tad of his "Bobs Big Boy" bangs away and it makes him look more severe.
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

AH! Lou Dobbs.
GILMORE 11 years ago

AAHHHHA DOBBSS HAMASS!!
jesse.in.mb 11 years ago

But will the aftershow be sexy without Kennedy?
Derpetologist 11 years ago

It never ceases to aannoy me how progs equate taxes to sharing:

http://www.cartoonmovement.com.....5mdDA.jpeg
1. Trouser-Pod 11 years ago
  
  Nope, not this time!
2. Warrren 11 years ago
  
  One day, a giant round boulder of derp is going to crush you as you try to escape from one of their nasty, overgrown temples.
  1. Trouser-Pod 11 years ago
    
    Maybe I'll just try running the opposite direction of the bolder, then.
    1. Warrren 11 years ago
      
      That's the same direction...
      1. Trouser-Pod 11 years ago
        
        ....Right. Which is why I'll try the opposite.
        
        Warrren 11 years ago
        
        And be trapped in the temple? What kind of dip-shit plan is that?
3. GILMORE 11 years ago
  
  It IS sharing!
  
  Government has your money, and you can share with each other in your misery!
4. PapayaSF 11 years ago
  
  Socialist sharing: You have a ball, but you can't play with it because you are outvoted.
  1. Sevo 11 years ago
    
    PapayaSF|7.21.14 @ 11:09PM|#
    "Socialist sharing:"
    
    Gimme that!
    1. PapayaSF 11 years ago
      
      Short and sweet.
Rufus J. Firefly 11 years ago

God, my wife rediscovered 'The (Nauseating) Gilmore Girls.' And now she's sucked my daughter into it too.
1. Trouser-Pod 11 years ago
  
  I just heard a Dave Attell bit referencing GG today. The joke, of course, was far better than the show.
2. GILMORE 11 years ago
  
  No relation
  1. Trouser-Pod 11 years ago
    
    Eh, maybe you're what's missing from that show.
    
    You know-testosterone.
    1. GILMORE 11 years ago
      
      When the show was on the air, I'd frequently mention that those women were available for an hourly rate, provided i'm paid up front.
      
      The joke, it was old before it was born
GILMORE 11 years ago

Its like a chat room!
Antilles 11 years ago

I heard Mary Catherine Hamm gets naked in this episode. Is that true, or should I pass? I heard the same thing about Jeannie back in the 60s, but I missed it and and they never aired that episode again. OK, I'll watch and hope for the best! Cheers!
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

I missed what happened at the start of this one. Apparently something awful.
1. Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago
  
  Kmele Foster was doing some kind of Barry White thing. The Southerner rebuked him, saying he'd warned her against doing this sort of thing - sill stuff that would be on the Internet forever.
  1. Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago
    
    Okay, I caught the end of that.
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

There's a whole industry of people who get outraged.
GILMORE 11 years ago

Matt makes the good point which I'd add to =

we are even more politically correct now than in the early 1990s... and there's (*surprisingly) less pushback about it now than there was then?
Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago

Did you hear about the Polack?

He was very stupid, ha ha.

No, I had not heard that.

/joke ripped off Dave Barry
Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago

I say we boycott Hit & Run until they fix commenting. WHO'S WITH ME?
1. Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago
  
  What happened *this* time?
  1. Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago
    
    I sense the start of comment faulting.
GILMORE 11 years ago

Black people drive like this
White people drive like this
Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago

Why is a gay person like a Malaysian Airlines plane?
1. Carl ?s his ? for ?s 11 years ago
  
  Eddie, you are out of purgatory now. Do you want to join the secret club?
  1. Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago
    
    Hypothetically, how would I do that?
    1. Carl ?s his ? for ?s 11 years ago
      
      email me.
      1. Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago
        
        Hello, there, it is I, Eddie, and I'm totally not Mary in a clever disguise or anything like that!
        
        Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago
        
        (Hopefully that should clear up that it was I who emailed you and not, like, someone you don't even know)
        
        Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago
        
        Well, my transgressive comedy didn't go over as well as I had hoped. Good night, all!
    2. Heroic Mulatto 11 years ago
      
      That is the lamest punchline ever.
  2. Carl ?s his ? for ?s 11 years ago
    
    Also, for any observers, if I have not specifically invited you, it's most likely out of laziness, forgetfulness, or most importantly, lack of an email address, as opposed to me snubbing you.
    
    Unless, of course, you live in Athens or are a pathetic pedantic 1L.
    1. Fist of Etiquette 11 years ago
      
      Don't do it. He's just collecting ethnicities and IP addresses.
    2. Pl?ya Manhattan. 11 years ago
      
      IT'S FOR JESSE'S DICK PICK VAULT!!!
      1. jesse.in.mb 11 years ago
        
        Submissions are being accepted at the linked email!
    3. Warrren 11 years ago
      
      I'm not going to. But it's not you, it's me.
    4. seguin 11 years ago
      
      Why is your email carl@nsa.gov?
2. GILMORE 11 years ago
  
  They go down ...uhm.....
  
  .... easily?
  
  there's a better punchline i'm sure.
3. Rufus J. Firefly 11 years ago
  
  Why?
4. Bam! 11 years ago
  
  The media can't stop talking about them?
Derpetologist 11 years ago

Here it is- the only joke progs have about guns:

http://spfaust.files.wordpress.....6yc2g.jpeg
1. Heroic Mulatto 11 years ago
  
  Che Guevara had a tiny penis.
2. GILMORE 11 years ago
  
  I've pointed out repeatedly, but the prog fixation about Guns and Dicks says far more about their own psyche than gun-owners.
  1. Warrren 11 years ago
    
    My dick *is* a gun.
    1. Sevo 11 years ago
      
      'This is you rifle/This is your gun
      One is for fighting/This is for fun
      1. Sevo 11 years ago
        
        Uh,
        
        This is your rifle/This is your gun
        This is for fighting/This is for fun
        
        And I really haven't started drinking yet...
        
        GILMORE 11 years ago
        
        I thought you were channeling John Paul Jones there.
        
        "We have not yet begun to Drink!"
    2. seguin 11 years ago
      
      Mine's a musket. Lots of smoke and I can only fire it once every 3 minutes.
Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago

"I didn't mean to interrupt you"?

What program have I stumbled on?
GILMORE 11 years ago

I would think one selling point of libertarians =

We actually *practice* equality.

other people talk about it.
1. Heroic Mulatto 11 years ago
  
  Problem is equality of opportunity is diametrically opposed to equality of outcomes.
  1. GILMORE 11 years ago
    
    I don't even mean that 'material' equality stuff.
    
    I mean we don't bother with identity politics. thats all progs seem to do. And SoCons are trapped there as well.
    1. PapayaSF 11 years ago
      
      I don't think SoCons don't come anywhere near progressives when it comes to identity politics.
      1. GILMORE 11 years ago
        
        You haven't been a Yankee in college in Tennessee have you?
        
        PapayaSF 11 years ago
        
        Were they talking about yankeephobia, solidarity with other victim groups, and demanding courses in Yankee Studies?
        
        Heroic Mulatto 11 years ago
        
        No, but they probably talked his ear off about the "War on Christmas".
        
        GILMORE 11 years ago
        
        ""War on Christmas""
        
        that wasn't much of a thing at the time, but there was a lot of conflict about 'religion in school' and there were a lot of christian conservatives who thought that the Secularist Media was in cahoots with the Jew Lawyers to forward the Gay Agenda. Vanderbilt was a pretty 'jesus friendly' school at the time and the aggrieved christians would sometimes accuse professors of attempting to 'secularize' things and quote bible in class. Fun times.
        
        Despite that, they represented a minority of the Southern students by far.
        
        GILMORE 11 years ago
        
        My point was, there are indeed some "southern" conservative identity politics that can be surprising to those unfamiliar with them.
        
        My mom is even from North Carolina, and I spent a lot of my young life down there, but was still treated like Willem Defoe in Mississippi Burning from time to time.
        
        That said = it hardly rivals that of the east/west coast proglodytes, who expand upon the reality of the SoCons, and pretty much paint anyone who disagrees with them as some exaggerated version of that.
      2. Calidissident 11 years ago
        
        SoCons do identity politics pretty well, just differently than progressives do. SoCon identity politics is all about religion, geographic region, rural/urban divide, patriotism ("Real Americans vote Republican" etc.), and for a minority, racism (I want to emphasize that last part - this is not as big or mainstream a part of SoCon identity politics as the other things I mentioned, but in some cases it is still unfortunately present).
        
        PapayaSF 11 years ago
        
        I think you and Gilmore are both using a very, very broad definition of identity politics.
        
        The laden phrase "identity politics" has come to signify a wide range of political activity and theorizing founded in the shared experiences of injustice of members of certain social groups. Rather than organizing solely around belief systems, programmatic manifestos, or party affiliation, identity political formations typically aim to secure the political freedom of a specific constituency marginalized within its larger context. Members of that constituency assert or reclaim ways of understanding their distinctiveness that challenge dominant oppressive characterizations, with the goal of greater self-determination.
        
        I think (e.g.) a rural Christian complaining about political opponents is likely to just be part of a belief system. Now, if they form the Rural Christian Liberation Front and hold workshops and demonstrations, then sure. But with a few scattered exceptions, it's pretty weak tea compared to ethnic/feminist/gay/trans/etc. identity politics.
  2. robc 11 years ago
    
    I would argue we have equality of outcomes too..based on equal inputs. Certain types want equal outcomes from differing inputs.
Rufus J. Firefly 11 years ago

http://forum.ebaumsworld.com/a.....50119.html

Snippet:

Q: What do you throw a Mexican man when he's drowning?
A: His wife and kids.
1. Carl ?s his ? for ?s 11 years ago
  
  ebaumsworld? What year is this?
  1. Rufus J. Firefly 11 years ago
    
    Yeah, but still a good collection of jokes to copy/paste and send to your neighborhood prog.
2. PapayaSF 11 years ago
  
  Q: Why are a black man's eyes always red after sex?
  
  A: From the mace.
  
  I laughed.
GILMORE 11 years ago

Brief recap =

Good show
matt was *UberMatt* in his POWER TIE
Kmele! WHY!!!! THE ASCOT???!! WHYYYYYYY!!
MK-HAM seemed cowed initially but got her swing on later in the show-kudos
It would be nice if they actually had some 'edgy' stuff like, "WTF why is 'trannys' even a slur?" on the REAL SHOW! that would make the show *special and different and notable*
...yes, it would get complaints and outrage, but for god's sake, isn't that the whole point of media anymore?

in sum = the most important point is that Kmele needs to bring back the ascot. That is all.
1. jesse.in.mb 11 years ago
  
  Wouldn't people have to see it for it to get complaints? I mean, besides us...
  
  Maybe we could start posting clips to liberal sites, they can go hate-viral and the show can get viewership?
  1. GILMORE 11 years ago
    
    ""Wouldn't people have to see it for it to get complaints?"
    
    burn!!!
  2. Heroic Mulatto 11 years ago
    
    Wouldn't people have to see it for it to get complaints?
    
    I dunno, the Daily Show went apeshit over Judge Naps on the Civil War.
Derpetologist 11 years ago

Here you go- a cartoon which seriously compares US soldiers to suicide bombers:

http://www.qando.net/uploads/i.....070714.gif
1. Heroic Mulatto 11 years ago
  
  It's Ted Rall country, just keeping driving.
  1. Derpetologist 11 years ago
    
    You shouldn't have done that. Now I'll mining more derp from him.
    
    This one gets the Bo seal of approval:
    
    http://slaintemhath.net/wp-con.....6-7-04.jpg
  2. Derpetologist 11 years ago
    
    You shouldn't have done that. Now I'll mining more derp from him.
    
    This one gets the Bo seal of approval:
    
    http://slaintemhath.net/wp-con.....6-7-04.jpg
2. GILMORE 11 years ago
  
  Shit like this makes me furious
  
  I'm not like a military fetishist like some people, but for !*&@#$!@# sake at least i KNOW a dozen people who've served and none of them fit the bullshit stereotype that progs throw out there, as though they are all Dumb God-Fearing Poorly Educated Mutts....
  
  which - even *if they were* - does nothing to justify this kind of cultural sneering at the people who choose to risk their fucking lives in the name of national security.
  
  These people make frequent rhetorical sops to people who 'serve their country' and 'act together for the greater good', and when faced with *actual examples of people who do exactly that*? They spit on them as fools, rubes, pawns of the state. The state they *fellate on a daily basis*.
  1. Heroic Mulatto 11 years ago
    
    It's his shtick:
    
    ...
    
    On October 22, 2007, Rall published a cartoon saying "Over time, however, the endless war in Iraq began to play a role in natural selection. Only idiots signed up; only idiots died. Back home, the average I.Q. soared." This caused an uproar by military supporters both conservative and liberal alike.[15]
    1. Heroic Mulatto 11 years ago
      
      Fucked up the first paragraph
      
      In a Rall cartoon from May 3, 2004,[10] Pat Tillman (a former Arizona Cardinals player who abandoned his NFL career to enlist in the United States Army Rangers and was killed in Afghanistan) is depicted asking an Army recruiter, "Never mind the fine print. Will I get to kill Arabs?". The narrator points out that he was killed and the reader is then given a choice: "idiot", "sap", or "hero". Later, after revelations of Tillman's privately held anti-Iraq-war sentiments and the friendly fire circumstances of his death became public, Rall wrote that he regretted making such sweeping assumptions about Tillman's motives, describing Tillman as "one hell of an interesting human being."
      1. GILMORE 11 years ago
        
        So he decided THAT ONE PERSON was interesting, but that he was 'probably right about everyone else'?
        
        FUCK THAT GUY WITH A RUSTY SHOVEL
      2. Irish 11 years ago
        
        How can you mention Ted Rall without bringing up the fact that he's a crazy racist who said Condoleeza Rice should be sent to racial reeducation camp.
        
        GILMORE 11 years ago
        
        The only thing more ridiculous than these sorts of hyperpartisan torture-fantasies they have on the left, is that now that they're in power? they point to the most innocuous criticism of Obama and express infinite outrage to the point where they'd call for similar expressions to result in Jail-time
        
        The rough equivalent of the woman @ UCSB who tore the abortion protestor's sign away, enlarged = they are the strongest advocates of "Free Speech"... until they get the slightest bit of power = then *the constitution itself* becomes a big problem, because it permits all these awful people to dare to disagree with them...
        
        Irish 11 years ago
        
        There have been literally no attacks on Obama as bad as the attacks Bush dealt with daily.
        
        Ted Nugent called Obama a savage or some shit and people freaked out. Progs are scum and hypocritical scum at that.
        
        Sevo 11 years ago
        
        Irish|7.21.14 @ 10:56PM|#
        "There have been literally no attacks on Obama as bad as the attacks Bush dealt with daily."
        
        Q: What was the NYT headline the day after Bush walked across the Potomac?
        A: "Bush Can't Swim!"
  2. Pathogen 11 years ago
    
    "The state they *fellate on a daily basis*.".. that has no compunctions about sending them to their doom as well.. Fortunately, those 'rubes' volunteer to be pawns of the state, so smug, intellectually superior cartoonists can continue to enlighten us with their genius, instead of reporting to their draft boards when the DNC/GOP strokes the war boner.
    1. Heroic Mulatto 11 years ago
      
      And yet, Progressives believe these supposedly "pig-ignorant yokels" in uniform will unquestioningly do their bidding when they are ordered to confiscate firearms from their fathers, brothers, uncles, and cousins in hillbilly Jesusland.
  3. Sevo 11 years ago
    
    GILMORE|7.21.14 @ 10:31PM|#
    "Shit like this makes me furious'
    
    Dunno if you missed the Tom Toles edi-cartoon I linked wherein Toles shows that investigating the IRS criminals leads to lower taxes from the "rich".
    Yes, cartooning is a rich harvest of stupidity with occasional insight. Rall and Toles are pathetic; simply relying on one frame followed by another to suggest connections that never exist.
    I have to admit to a real admiration for Bagge; he uses cartooning as it should be used where the image never substitutes for a non-existent connection but adds emphasis and detail beyond the captions.
    1. PapayaSF 11 years ago
      
      I wish Bagge was in Reason more often.
      1. Sevo 11 years ago
        
        He did a cartoon of the guy in Seattle distributing dope as a representative of "Jews for Jesus".
        Now, *that* needs some nuance, but he did so, and depicted the guy (now busted) in an image poignant beyond words.
        I tried to buy the original, but someone beat me to it. It'd be on my wall if they hadn't.
3. Suthenboy 11 years ago
  
  "....(not) in all my years of leftist activism, did I ever hear anyone articulate accurately the position of anyone to our right. In fact, I did not even know those positions when I was a leftist.
  "Truth is that which serves the party." The capital-R revolution was such a good, it could eliminate all that was bad, that manipulating facts was not even a venial sin; it was a good. If you want to make an omelet, you have to break a few eggs. One of those eggs was objective truth."
  
  I think it is more than that. I think, like shriek, most of them cannot distinguish between objective truth and a talking point that serves their ends.
  1. GILMORE 11 years ago
    
    There is indeed a unique characteristic by the contemporary left =
    
    they actually seem to have zero understanding of the people they actually disagree with. At best, its a cartoon of a racist/redneck/wall st/'flyover country' stereotype that hardly exists in real life.
    
    By contrast, most conservatives spend their lives dissecting and studying leftists down to the smallest detail. Its not particularly difficult, given their mass media dominance.
    
    but more than half of talking to lefties is simply dispelling their misconceptions. THEN you have to actually get to the stuff they understand but feel differently about.
    
    But Reagan said it very well when he said, 'Liberals aren't ignorant = they just know so much that isn't so'
    1. Flaming Ballsack 11 years ago
      
      OMG you. have. got. to. be. fucking. kidding.
      
      pconservatives have barely moved past the 70s in terms of theyre stereotypes about gays blacks and feminists and you seriously advance the notiun that ANY of them think? that has to bw the most insanely disonest statement ive ever seen. an a libertarian website thats saying alot.
      1. Heroic Mulatto 11 years ago
        
        What the fuck is a "notiun"?
      2. Sevo 11 years ago
        
        Flaming Ballsack|7.21.14 @ 11:09PM|#
        "OMG you. have. got. to. be. fucking. kidding."
        
        No, flaming asshole, we get brain-dead lefties here all the time who claim to know something other than lefty talking points.
        Not one of them do, and you are just the latest example of abysmal ignorance.
        Oh, and buzz off.
      3. GILMORE 11 years ago
        
        please find examples of what you're talking about at American Conservative magazine, or here even... and please share with us so we can be duly corrected.
        
        I'll wait.
      4. GILMORE 11 years ago
        
        "you seriously advance the notiun that ANY of them think?"
        
        http://www.theamericanconserva.....anti-marx/
      5. seguin 11 years ago
        
        Amazing, in just one paragraph you disagreed with Gilmore's main point AND provided evidence in favor of it.
        
        You're a winner alright.
      6. Sevo 11 years ago
        
        "pconservatives have barely moved past the 70s in terms of theyre stereotypes about gays blacks and feminists and you seriously advance the notiun that ANY of them think? that has to bw the most insanely disonest statement ive ever seen. an a libertarian website thats saying alot."
        
        And hardly anyone here ever bothers to play grammar- or spelling-nazi, but for pete's sake, couldn't you at least use spell-check?
        If that were mine, I'd be posting a correction.
        
        Irish 11 years ago
        
        I'm convinced Flaming Ballsack is a sockpuppet. You've got that ridiculous name in conjunction with the inability to spell and the ludicrous arguments.
        
        I just don't believe it.
        
        GILMORE 11 years ago
        
        Also, click the link on his handle
        
        Sevo 11 years ago
        
        I did and it really says not much at all.
        Irony from the left? Irony from a sock? Who knows...
        
        Sevo 11 years ago
        
        Can't tell, but if there's to be registration, why allow socks? Does it somehow add to the discussion? What is the gain?
    2. PapayaSF 11 years ago
      
      Gilmore: Very true, both in my experience and validated by at least one study I am too lazy to look up. (Maybe it was Jonathan Haidt.)
      
      Not that there aren't ignorant/narrow-minded conservatives, but I am continually astounded by the number of bright, sane, educated lefties who have only the crudest, most cartoonish grasp of how their opponents think.
      1. GILMORE 11 years ago
        
        Not only that, but their repeated, assured insistence that all those who disagree about things like, say, Hobby Lobby, are "Funamentalist nutbags who hate women and are racist troglodyte garble gabbba blurgga""
        
        They have no idea how ironic it is that they insist their 'opponents' are "Hateful and Biased" people. They'll say this, and pen entire screeds about what awful people (insert Conservative something) are and how their culture is despicable etc etc. Like the above cartoon about the dead soldiers = they utterly fail to recognize that they themselves bear closer resemblance to the Amos and Andy than (as was my example) "The American Conservative", or to throw them a bone... even 'Rush Limbaugh', who i have no love for, but who is 1/10th the monster he's made out to be by the left.
        
        I think a good example was their recent shitfit over George Will. They act like he issued a Fatwa against all women attending school
        
        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/george-will/
4. Grand Moff Serious Man 11 years ago
  
  There was a very popular Facebook and Twitter meme being passed around the UniteBlue types.
  
  It shows a picture of a young conservative woman holding a bible and a rifle and then an actual photo of a female Al-Qaeda propagandist holding an AK and a Koran.
  
  The caption seriously asked what the difference between the two was. Uhhh.....
  1. Irish 11 years ago
    
    I saw that. What's especially great was that the woman specifically said she was holding a gun and a bible to make progressives angry.
    
    I'm not kidding - she flat out said that she posed for that picture to make progs' heads explode and she said this before they started comparing her to a terrorist.
    
    So she posed for the picture ironically but progressives are so fucking stupid they couldn't tell the difference.
    1. Grand Moff Serious Man 11 years ago
      
      Right. And of course the difference between the two is one wants to violently subjugate all those who stand oppose to Islam and the other likes going to church and the shooting range as well as exercising her First Amendment rights.
      1. Heroic Mulatto 11 years ago
        
        Buh...CRUSADES!
      2. Irish 11 years ago
        
        There were some hilarious right wing responses to the post comparing her to a terrorist though. I saw one guy post a picture where Obama and Hitler were making the exact same hand gesture with the caption 'Holy shit! Can you believe this thing looks like this thing!?'
      3. Warrren 11 years ago
        
        Unless she's a Gary North type Christian.
Pl?ya Manhattan. 11 years ago

MotherFucker!!!!
http://ktla.com/2014/07/21/are.....s-say-yes/
1. Warrren 11 years ago
  
  Ha Ha Ha!
  1. Pl?ya Manhattan. 11 years ago
    
    Lovely home, though. Mr. & Mrs. Obama have really earned it by doing so, so much for our country.
    1. Warrren 11 years ago
      
      And now they'll continually tie up traffic in your soon to be new neighborhood.
      1. Pl?ya Manhattan. 11 years ago
        
        Deal breaker. I'm looking at Indian Wells now. I like this place, but it'll be gone soon:
        http://www.trulia.com/property.....s-CA-92210
        
        Warrren 11 years ago
        
        It seems like a low humidity place, you cool with that after living in the fog zone for so long?
        
        Pl?ya Manhattan. 11 years ago
        
        I like sunlight. I go out there 10-12 times a year as it is. Surprisingly, water is cheaper out there. A lot cheaper. I'll break even on electric. It's cheaper out there, but I'll have to run A/C, which I don't have here.
        
        I just need to pretend that a pool next to sand is a beach.
2. jesse.in.mb 11 years ago
  
  So close to Cat City! I'm sure that won't stoke gay rumors.
  
  sigh
  1. Warrren 11 years ago
    
    Cat City?
    1. jesse.in.mb 11 years ago
      
      Cathedral City. It's high density gays. Possibly the highest density in the US.
      1. Warrren 11 years ago
        
        Why?
        
        Heroic Mulatto 11 years ago
        
        By the name, I'm guessing it's all the pre...nope. Too easy.
        
        jesse.in.mb 11 years ago
        
        I don't really know why. My dad's theory is that they all fled the more clammy Laguna Beach when the AIDS crisis hit its peak because of the wasting that occurs. Same reason old people flee to AZ and NM.
        
        Pl?ya Manhattan. 11 years ago
        
        I thought Palm Springs had more gheys. Over 50%, I thought.
        
        jesse.in.mb 11 years ago
        
        I'd heard Cat City was higher, but googling says it's Wilton Manors (FL), Palm Springs, WeHo, Cat City.
3. Francisco d'Anconia 11 years ago
  
  Are the Obamas Buying a Home in Rancho Mirage? White House Says No; Real Estate Agents Say Yes
  
  So this motherfucker lies just to stay in practice?
  
  Or is it a national security issue?
  
  Most transparent...
Derpetologist 11 years ago

Ted Rall sure has a punchable face. Oops- I just gave ammo to crazy Mary.

http://thespanishprisoner.file.....d_rall.jpg
1. Pl?ya Manhattan. 11 years ago
  
  Plenty of ammo today. I wasn't being nice in a few threads today. Unfortunate, nut necessary.
2. Irish 11 years ago
  
  Why do all progressive men look like that?
  1. Warrren 11 years ago
    
    You've heard of P.S.I.? Well, they have what is called S.P.I or Smug Per Inch. The very pressure of the smug in their heads causes that similar look.
    1. seguin 11 years ago
      
      It isn't applied evenly. Usually it's concentrated right between the eyes.
Pl?ya Manhattan. 11 years ago

I don't watch Dobbs, but I accidentally left him on in the background. Is he having a stroke on air? He keeps forgetting what he's saying, and slurs words.
1. GILMORE 11 years ago
  
  yeah.
  
  The other night it was bad. I think it happened fairly recently. I think its hitting him hard. Maybe they think he can finish his contract.
  1. Pl?ya Manhattan. 11 years ago
    
    It wasn't once or twice, either. Every minute or so.
Warrren 11 years ago

Don't let the light of this thread die!
Notorious G.K.C. 11 years ago

You think H. P. Lovecraft is scary? This story makes Lovecraft look like Jane Austen.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201407212409.html
1. Heroic Mulatto 11 years ago
  
  That's some hilarious shit.
  
  The residents also interrupted a service at the PCEA Uplands Church where the clinic is located as worshippers walked out of the sermon to witness the scene.
  
  Elders efforts to convince them to go back to the church in order for the service to continue were futile as some of them even contributed some cash for the circumcision.
  1. PapayaSF 11 years ago
    
    Officers at the Lari police station were also forced to contribute when the residents passed by the station. One of the residents said they raised about Sh 6,530 before they arrived at the clinic.
    
    That's about $75. Impressive.
Sevo 11 years ago

Kerry doesn't know he dropped the water mellon yet, is confused about the continent:
http://www.sfgate.com/news/pol.....ationworld
(sorry)
Grand Moff Serious Man 11 years ago

Brent Mussberger was correct: It pays to be the champion quarterback
1. Calidissident 11 years ago
  
  I know the girl who (at the time, I don't know if they're still dating, but I think they aren't) was dating Everett Golson, the Notre Dame QB, and I've always wondered if Musburger would jizzed his shorts over her if Notre Dame would have been the one destroying the other team in that game. I doubt he knew who she was, since they hadn't been dating long, Golson wasn't as well-known as McCarron, and she wasn't sort-of famous prior to dating like Webb was, but she is/was very attractive (more so than Webb IMO, but she's also more my type so I admit I'm biased) and I would have died laughing hearing Musburger make that comment about someone I know.
  
  SBnation had a hilarious article rewriting Eminem songs (this was after his hilariously awkward visit to the announcer's booth with Musburger and Herbstreit) from Musburger's POV. The remix of Stan is by far the best IMO
  
  http://www.sbnation.com/colleg.....rap-lyrics
  1. Calidissident 11 years ago
    
    *would have
Francisco d'Anconia 11 years ago

Anybody still awake? How was the show?
1. Carl ?s his ? for ?s 11 years ago
  
  Did you ever get my email? There are people still awake in the super secret club.
  1. Francisco d'Anconia 11 years ago
    
    No, I didn't. Playa said you were sending it, but I didn't receive.
    1. jesse.in.mb 11 years ago
      
      Check spam. Carl uses a German email provider.
      1. Carl ?s his ? for ?s 11 years ago
        
        If you still can't find me, just email me from an email that you're OK being seen by the other members and let me know what you want your "full name" (Firstname Lastname) to be (real or fake).
        
        Francisco d'Anconia 11 years ago
        
        On its way.
      2. Francisco d'Anconia 11 years ago
        
        Ahh!
2. Sevo 11 years ago
  
  Show?
3. Pl?ya Manhattan. 11 years ago
  
  Welch hosted the show.
  1. Francisco d'Anconia 11 years ago
    
    So it was better than normal, then?
    1. Pl?ya Manhattan. 11 years ago
      
      Better flow. Mary Kat Ham co chaired, and she wasn't very polished.
RishJoMo 11 years ago

Sometimes you jsut have to roll with the punches.

http://www.AnonToolz.tk

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