63 Cleveland Police Officers Suspended For 23 Minute Police Chase That Ended With Cops Firing 137 Shots
Max suspension 10 days


The Cleveland Police Department has suspended 63 patrol officers who were involved in a car chase last November that ended in East Cleveland with 13 officers firing 137 shots, killing both the driver, Timothy Russell, and the passenger, Malissa Williams. Cops say the chase started when an officer heard a gunshot from the car. No gun was ever found in the car, nor any casings where the chase started. The 13 cops involved in the fatal shooting were not among the 63 suspended; they are under a grand jury investigation. A state investigation previously concluded there was a systemic problem of an attitude of "refusal to look at the facts," and handed the case over the prosecutors. In August, East Cleveland's mayor said prosecutors were considering filing charges against the cops involved in the shooting, but as of this month the shooting is still being investigated.
The city of Cleveland asked the Department of Justice to review police policies following the chase and shooting, and the DOJ obliged by opening a civil rights investigation into misconduct and the possible systematic excessive use of force in March. The investigation could take up to a year and a half.
The suspensions for the 63 officers are for offenses ranging from insubordination to driving too fast. Cops kept chasing Russell's car even after ordered to stop. They say they thought a cop was in trouble. The maximum suspensions were for just 10 days. Thirteen supervisors, who the department blames for letting the chase spin out of control, were previously disciplined.
Video of the shooting here, an animation created by the Ohio Attorney General's office here.
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TOO MANY INSIDE JOKES!!!
Did I let anyone down?
OT: No good place to put this sooooo.....
Familes on food stamp could be cut off soon
This is:
a. An obvious attempt by the Obama Administration to cause the most pain possible to blame and put pressure on Republicans.
b. An obvious outcome due to the greed and cold-heartedness of Koch living bastards.
c. A clever intro to the new spin-off to the Walking Dead.
d. All of the above.
Write in answers are acceptable.
A, but, obvious to whom?
Obvious to Teathuglicans.
Apparently using the term "food stamps" is offensive. I was asking the local clerk about the sign that they currently were unable to accept EBT and she made some crack about having gotten scolded by some guy who was offended that she'd said she couldn't accept his food stamps so loudly.
The more you know.
Where's the rainbow following 'the more you know?'
We need a popular yet wholesome teen spokesperson as well. Hannah Montana (if she weren't a dirty little whore) would be a good choice.
Dude, Jesse's gay. The rainbow's implicit on all of his comments.
Ah.
Question is...
Would he date Tony?
Only if he's into ball gags.
Dude, Jesse's gay. The rainbow's implicit on all of his comments.
Now THAT would be a superpower. Some year for Halloween, my intense laziness permitting, I'm going to dress in all black with the more you know star and rainbow mounted on a folding fan. I'll spout off totally untrue facts and pull a lever to unfurl it.
*opera applause*
I worked in a grocery store as a stockboy in high school and a manager in college (mid to late 2000s) and the cashiers weren't allowed to say anything about EBT. Like they couldn't even ask if that's how someone was paying when they were in line, and couldn't say "her EBT card isn't working" if they needed to call over a manager for help.
Yeah. God forbid they might be looked at as different for getting free shit from the government when the rest of us fools are spending our money. But yeah, I recall Kroger having the same policies in the mid-late 90s.
Really? That's fucking lame. The one I worked at, we never said anything because 50% of the customers paid with it. Well, food stamps and a combination of WIC.
I'm actually heartened by this. Some people still feel shame for being on the dole. Good.
The big question is whether that shame drives them to get off the dole.
Apparently it just drives them to bitch and moan about people pointing out that they're on the dole. Because it's, like, a right or something to be able to go through one's life without ever having to feel any kind of negative emotion. Ever.
So they still feel some shame about using EBT. That's good... I guess.
Well, see...they never actually used stamps. There were food coupons, not really much like any kind of stamp, and now there are debit cards, Electronic Benefit Transfer, the food accounts of which are called Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.
How they got the appellation "stamps", I don't know.
They used to look a lot like stamps.
I used to think food stamps were those green stamps they gave you when you bought groceries at SoCal grocery store...and you had that little book, and you kept track. Man that was fun for a 7yo.
But who were their pallbearers?
Pro-Drug War/Police Militarization Black Americans
LeBron James' peeps from Akron.
So wait, there were 76 cops involved in a chase of one car with two people in it, who 13 of the cops then subsequently killed?
You think Cleveland might have too many cops?
I wonder how many malls were destroyed?
Warty's in Cleveland, isn't he?
"in" makes it sound like he's bound by your bourgeois notions of time and space. Cleveland is his tabernacle but Warty's rape-presence is limitless and eternal.
Fine, jesse. He is based out of Cleveland. My point was just that that fact probably scares the townsfolk into demanding an unreasonable police presence.
That's fair, BP, I think it's cute that the people of Cleveland still experience a glimmer of hope that the police could be an effective deterrent at the edge of their Warty-induced terror. It really speaks to the resilience and/or folly of man.
It may be some of both, jesse.
We live in Cleveland... we abandoned hope many years ago.
Cleveland sucks
Cleveland sucks
Cleveland sucks
Cleveland sucks
OHIO!
Whatever images I have of Cleveland was shaped by American Splendor.
It's the most accurate cinematic portrayal of Cleveland ever filmed. Well, except for the alien invasion scene in The Avengers.
I had a dream there was going to be a Cthulhu movie. Is that a thing?
I thought "Cthulhu - The Movie" was Warty's vacation pics? No?
I'm pretty sure the Lovecraft society made a movie based on Call of Cthulhu. It's silent, but I thought it was pretty decent. It was on Netflix IIRC.
like 63 cops could stop Warty.
Yeah, it really only winds up backfiring, (no pun intended) since they are quite capable of killing normals.
If it wasn't so tragic, the animation of all those cars is funny. Must no be any doughnut shops nearby.
The interesting part is how there's a bunch of shots fired, then a slight pause, and then more shots fired. I guess the bodies were still twitching after the first several rounds.
In August, East Cleveland's mayor said prosecutors were considering filing charges against the cops involved in the shooting, but as of this month the shooting is still being investigated.
Due to the delicate nature of the alleged perpetrators (COUGH*badges*COUGH) extra care must be taken in considering whether charges should be filed. Just like with you and me when possibly running afoul of the law.
Yeah, if we pumped 137 rounds into a random car and killed 2 people, we'd be on death row already.
Is it just me, or was that dude on the left stoned out of his fucking mind when the picture was taken.
RACE. IST!!
Why the fuck don't you make comments like that when Obama DOESN'T prosecute drug users, sarc? HUH? Shouldn't we be celebrating when the administration does something RIGHT? Like in this case, where the prosecutors are prosecuting COPS?!
NO! You'd rather just hate on Obama and the cops cause they're Obama and the cops! Do you know what it's like to be auniversity professor???!!
*grabs sarcasmic and shakes him by his lapels*
DO YOU!!!!
/that other thread
Lapels? I work in software! I don't wear lapels! Fuck!
Check your fucking privilege, clothes fascist!
Sexist, too, since I think that's a woman.
JINX!
This issue has impacted MY LIFE in VERY DEEP , VERY PERSONAL, VERY DRAMATIC WAYS.
Never fear! Obama is here!
Thaaaats a chick... I think... *rereads story*
That's a man, man! Wait, no, I think you're right...shit...
SEXIST, TOO! Way to go sarc!
*takes a bow*
It's only sexist if it was deliberate or a feminist heard it.
Would...would you say the Cleveland police let us down?
Well, they certainly let Timothy Russell and Malissa Williams down one last time.
+6 feet...and pallbearers
just another Factory of Sadness
http://youtu.be/tRBDMMVctu8
Holy fucking shit, there were SIXTY police cruisers involved. How the fuck does shit like this even happen (*cough* Blues Brothers *cough*)? Chasing one car that according to all evidence didn't do anything?
There are way too many cops in Cleveland, with clearly nothing to fucking do except murder people.
To be sure, the Blues had divine help via James Brown and the Penguin.
In all fairness, they thought Warty Hugeman might have been involved.
And no helicopter, evidently
Hopefully "Sweet Home Chicago" was playing on all their radios.
"Use of excessive force has been approved."
hup hup hup hup hup hup hup
"The Cleveland Police Department has suspended 63 patrol officers who were involved in a car chase last November that ended in East Cleveland with 13 officers firing 137 shots..."
Footage here.
That scene looks REALLY expensive
Apropos of nothing some local news:
18-Foot Oarfish Found on Catalina Amazes Scientists, Campers
Picture
Fucking Pacific. I wouldn't set foot in that deathtrap.
I'm going in today. Water's still warm (relatively) and it's already 80 out...
Aren't your beaches a giant MRSA cesspit?
Glass houses and whatnot Pro L.
Millions go in, a few get some weird disease. A few more get bit by some small shark.
How does that measure up to the Pacifuckyouup?
I've only been bitten by a shark once, and it wasn't in the Pacific.
Pro lib thinks the Pacific is a scary deathtrap, but the Cretaceous Period was just easy living?
Yes, that's right. The fish in the Gulf don't eat kayaks. In fact, we have very little that's lethal here. We reserve the killing fields for the land.
I only went back to 2000, but it looks pretty evenly divided between HI, the west coast, and the east coast:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L.....ted_States
Sharks are only part of the story, but the key difference in the Gulf is no Great Whites. Just bull sharks, black tips, and other sharks that aren't looking to tangle with anything human-sized. Attacks here are usually due to sharks not realizing what they're biting, due to murky water and, usually, schools of bait being in the area.
It's not the ocean life Pro L is concerned with, it's the Jersey kids partying on Spring Break.
Another plus: Just being in the water here burns 400 calories an hour. Your beaches are loaded with fatties (although it might just be the midwestern tourists that visit).
This, all the survivors of the Cleveland Cop Rampage(s) flock to my hometown for the summer.
head
I know! Looks delicious, right?
"The snake-like fish was found late Sunday afternoon dead but nearly completely intact"
Already dead? Sure it was. Sure it was.
Basis for eastern style dragons?
Jesse, do you mind if I throw that on facebook? I may or may not give you credit...
Don't mind at all.
How many shots were fired at that Tiger Beat kid who blew up people?
None of them hit him, though. If done right, no can defense.
He was surrounded by an aura of lead.
Goddamn, I miss working Cleveland
/not
Also - Ed - way to grab all the provocative posts this afternoon.
*fist bump*
YEAH, I STILL FIST BUMP. WHATEVER.
Reading caps as *yelling* gets stressful, I have decided to read them as *Julia Child Voice* - way funnier
No words yet on how many dogs were shot, although estimates range from 100 to 155 based on the number of shots fired.
13 officers firing 137 shots
Doesn't that mean at least some of them probably reloaded and kept firing?
17 shots in a Glock 9mm. So - not necessarily.
But probably. You'd think...
Not necessarily. The Glock 19 has a standard 15-round magazine.
This is why we need magazine limits.
So, on the conf call this afternoon when we did a roundtable at the end, I asked my colleague who replaced me in Cleveland (and is a diehard hometown Cleveland boy), "So, Chuck - after Sunday's game....didja line up the Browns to be your pallbearers so they could...."
Peals of laughter over the phone. Yeah....that just NEVER gets old.
I read the headline as cops suspended for 23 minutes, and thought, yep, sounds right.
I'd hope "with pay" as well.
For teh childrun
The article says the maximum suspensions were 10 days. For a double homicide.
10 day paid vacation for a double homicide? Sounds about right. No double standard there...
I wonder how many of those 137 shots hit? If it's a lot, their car probably looked like the Bonnie & Clyde car. Small wonder they didn't kill any bystanders with stray bullets or bad driving.
Gun control enthusiasts routinely say that if citizens were allowed to carry weapons wild shoot outs would occur in the city streets of our nation, but that 'duly trained officers' carrying firearms are a 'different story.'
There are many urban jurisdictions where concealed carry has long been the law, and I have yet to read or hear about a story about citizens behaving like this one involving police officers.
Weird what accountability and consequences can do, huh?
It's weird what squirrels can do to the order of posts too.
Maybe they should be the mechanism for the ST timetravel to kick off the series.
Your mistake was signing up with Khan. While quite intelligent, his thinking is. . .limited. Especially with temporal posting dynamics.
He's from 1990. We can't expect him to know the ins and outs of internet posting.
Whereas Spock was conceived on the Internet.
It's funny what possibly being accountable for your actions will do.
You've read the relatively recent stories about NYPD shootouts, right? Those are some fucking Keystone Kops.
But think for a moment about the term 'Browns' and how it truly differs from all the others. Ask yourself what the equivalent would be if African-Americans, Asians, Caucasians or members of any other ethnic group let you down.
63 Cleveland Police Officers Suspended For 23 Minute Police Chase That Ended With Cops Firing 137 Shots
Proper procedure calls for a minimum of 175 shots and at least two dogs killed.
The implication here being that if they thought a non-cop was in trouble they would have stopped the chase. Because fuck them.
It's like the 3rd season of The Wire: