2 Florida Men Who Thought They Were Freeing Illegally Caught Sharks Are Now Felons
Federal prosecutors argued that John Moore and Tanner Mansell stole property when they hauled in a fishing line they mistakenly believed had been set by poachers.

On a Monday in August 2020, Camryn Kuehl and her family embarked on a snorkeling trip in Jupiter, Florida, on a boat operated by a company that specializes in shark encounters. During the trip, the boat's crew, John R. Moore Jr. and Tanner Mansell, spotted what they described to the Kuehls as an "illegal longline fishing line" attached to a buoy. With the Kuehls' help, Moore and Mansell hauled in the line and freed the 19 sharks caught on it—a rescue operation they encouraged the Kuehls to document with their cellphones. Moore called Florida Fish and Wildlife Officer Barry Partelow to report the incident.
As Partelow ultimately discovered, Moore and Mansell had made a mistake. The line had been set by Scott Taylor, a seafood distributor whom the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration had authorized to catch sharks for research purposes. Although Moore and Mansell clearly thought they were doing good by releasing illegally ensnared sharks, they were nevertheless convicted of theft at sea, a federal felony punishable by up to five years in prison. Prosecutors alleged that Moore and Mansell had stolen Taylor's fishing gear, which they left on the dock, where marina employees discarded it in a dumpster.
In addition to a year of probation, Moore and Mansell were saddled with felony convictions that trigger lifelong disabilities, including barriers to employment and loss of their Second Amendment rights. They challenged their convictions on the grounds that the jury instructions included a broad, counterintuitive definition of stealing that did not require an intent to use Taylor's gear for their own benefit. Last September, a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit rejected that challenge. Moore and Mansell are now asking the full appeals court to reverse that decision and correct the flagrant injustice of treating them as federal felons based on an honest, well-intentioned error.
Moore and Mansell were convicted under 18 USC 661, which applies to someone who "takes and carries away, with intent to steal or purloin, any personal property of another" within "the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States." During their trial, they asked U.S. District Judge Donald Middlebrooks to instruct the jury that stealing property means wrongfully taking it "with intent to deprive the owner of the use or benefit permanently or temporarily and to convert it to one's own use or the use of another." After the prosecution objected to including a conversion element, Middlebrooks omitted it, although he did tell the jury that the defendants maintained they had "removed property without the bad purpose to disobey or disregard the law and therefore did not act with the intent to steal or purloin."
The jurors, who sent the judge half a dozen notes while deliberating for two days (longer than it had taken to present the evidence against Moore and Mansell), struggled to reach a verdict. When they told Middlebrooks they had been unable to reach a unanimous decision, he gave them an Allen charge, encouraging them to continue deliberating and saying they should be open to changing their positions, provided they could do so "without violating your individual judgment and conscience." After sending one more note asking whether they should consider any other defense theories, the jurors found Moore and Mansell guilty of one charge each.
In an opinion by Judge Charles Wilson, the 11th Circuit panel ruled that Middlebrooks had been right to conclude, based on the relevant precedents, that Section 661's definition of stealing does not require evidence that the defendant "carrie[d] away" property for his "own use or the use of another." But in a concurring opinion, Judge Barbara Lagoa, joined by Judge Britt Grant, highlighted the perverse consequences of that reading and harshly criticized Assistant U.S. Attorney Thomas Watts-FitzGerald for his "imprudent exercise of discretion" in choosing to prosecute the case.
Lagoa noted that Moore and Mansell had openly stated their motivation in freeing the sharks, had enlisted their customers to help and to take pictures while doing so, had reported the incident to the relevant law enforcement agency, and had "returned the gear to the marina dock as instructed." Kuehl, for her part, "thought [they] were doing a great thing," and she "shared pictures on social media reporting as much to her friends." Yet "for reasons that defy understanding," Lagoa said, Watts-FitzgGerald "learned of these facts and—taking a page out of Inspector Javert's playbook—brought the matter to a grand jury to secure an indictment for a charge that carried up to five years in prison."
Despite evidence that "plainly suggests a good-faith mistake on Moore and Mansell's part," Lagoa wrote, Watts-FitzGerald "determined that this case was worth the public expense of a criminal prosecution, and the lifelong yokes of felony convictions, rather than imposition of a civil fine." Explaining that decision during oral argument last August, the government's lawyer likened the case to car theft on federal property. "If someone steals a car on a military base," she said, "the proper response isn't, well, pay restitution for that. That's a crime." Grant called that "a silly example," adding, "There's no comparison."
In her concurring opinion, Lagoa proposed a different analogy. "Imagine that Bob, walking along a path in a federal park, sees a man rush up to an elderly woman from behind, pull a gun from his pocket, and yell 'Give me your purse or I'll shoot,'" she wrote. "Bob rushes the robber, yanks the gun from his hand, and ushers the old woman out of harm's way."
What if "what Bob witnessed was not a genuine robbery, but a scene being acted out by some students from the local community college"? In other words, Lagoa wrote, "the robber was not a robber at all, but the elderly woman's scene partner for drama class. Bob, of course, had no way of knowing that when he interrupted what he believed to be a violent crime."
Under "the government's theory in this case and applying § 661 as broadly as the government did here," Lagoa noted, "this genuine mistake would be of no moment, because all that matters is that Bob took the 'robber's' property with the intent to deprive him of it. Perhaps it would move the needle if Bob's lawyers requested an instruction on mistake of fact, aiming to undermine the mens rea needed to convict." But for Lagoa, the bottom line is that Bob, like Moore and Mansell, "should not be prosecuted in the first instance."
What happens when prosecutors nevertheless defy fairness and common sense by pursuing criminal charges in a situation like this? In a brief urging the 11th Circuit to reconsider Moore and Mansell's case, the Cato Institute emphasizes the vital role that juries can play in correcting such injustices.
"From a purely originalist standpoint, perhaps the single greatest protection against unjust convictions and punishments was the institution of jury independence,
which included—but was by no means limited to—the power to acquit against the
evidence," writes Clark Neily, Cato's senior vice president for legal studies. "At the Founding, criminal jurors were not relegated to the role of mere fact-finders, as they are today. Indeed, the conception of criminal juries as having no proper role in assessing the wisdom, fairness, or legitimacy of a given prosecution is a more recent invention that early American lawyers and jurists would rightly have condemned as antithetical to centuries of common-law understanding and practice."
Neily notes that "the jury in this case appeared reluctant to convict, and only did
so after sending out seven notes and receiving an Allen charge from the trial judge." If the jury instructions had "better embodied the Supreme Court's directive that 'ambiguity concerning the ambit of criminal statutes should be resolved in favor of lenity,'" he argues, "the verdict would likely have obviated this appeal by more accurately reflecting how ordinary people understand the word 'steal' in the context of potentially ruinous felony charges."
Although "the spectacle of an imperious national government prosecuting virtuous
citizens for activities within its 'special maritime jurisdiction' would have been entirely familiar to the Founders," Neily writes, "they would likely have been dismayed by the identity of that government and by the miscarriage of justice that occurred here. It is
highly doubtful that a Founding-era jury, fully cognizant of its historic powers and
duties, would have branded John Moore and Tanner Mansell lifelong felons for their
misguided attempt to fulfill what they perceived to be a civic duty. The Court can still avoid that result by granting the Petition and applying a suitably restrained interpretation of the relevant statute."
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With good reason.Busted by duck salad of all people.
Sullum is a disgrace
Dicksalad busted Sullum? Damn.
If you perform ANY kind of good deed (or well-intentioned deed), do NOT tell Government Almighty ANYTHING about it!
(If'n ye free a sex slave, said sex slave just MIGHT belong to The Donald, and then ye will be in BIGLY Troubles!!!)
More likely to Bubba Clinton.
Much more
Fuck off, you crazy old pedo.
There has been too much pro-Shark propaganda on the internet. They wouldn't think twice about eating you.
I got bitten by one in Florida.
Also, these two were running a business that involves showing people sharks. So they weren't necessarily acting out of virtue, but to boost their own business
And the tourists got some likes on Facebook, probably. They weren’t innocent, shirley they should be in the dock with the other stealers
"The line had been set by Scott Taylor, a seafood distributor whom the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration had authorized to catch sharks for research purposes. Although Moore and Mansell clearly thought they were doing good by releasing illegally ensnared sharks, they were nevertheless convicted of theft at sea, a federal felony punishable by up to five years in prison."
So they made an assumption and engaged in vigilantism against a legally authorized operation. The road to Hell being paved with good intentions.
Yes, for which they chould be civilly liable.
Yeah, maybe a letter of apology for the misunderstanding, and the restoration of the fishing equipment, or cost thereof, plus some reasonable compensation for lost time and effort, and we all go on our way.
No. One of the guys was a former commercial fisherman who had to know the buoy was marked legally. He also interfered with the investigation and disobeyed direct orders to preserve the gear for investigation. He then threw out the legal buoy to try and hide his illegality. There was no "misunderstanding" here. There was outright felony theft and illegally interfering with a lawful fishing activity.
This entire article is a perfect example of yellow journalism promoting a story by carefully leaving out details. I have come to expect this type of farcical writing from the author.
So, if I had to guess, the reason there's criminal liability is because of enviro-anarchists and the need, which they instigated, to deter their actions. This is the reason the whole "we were trying to help" thing falls on deaf ears.
Because their definition of "trying to help" is usually something pretty Jeffrey Goines screwed up. (Note also their penchant for blocking traffic, vandalizing art, and trashing restaurants.)
So, now the act comes with a presumption that if you did it, you were doing so intentionally. Maybe that doesn't apply in this case, I don't know, I'm just hypothesizing the reason why they went full-tilt criminal on the matter.
Also, lol:
What if "what Bob witnessed was not a genuine robbery, but a scene being acted out by some students from the local community college"? In other words, Lagoa wrote, "the robber was not a robber at all, but the elderly woman's scene partner for drama class. Bob, of course, had no way of knowing that when he interrupted what he believed to be a violent crime."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFEK0Sbq4o8
That assumption bout motivation seems unlikely given the quoted statements in the article above.
One does not rule out the other. I get you don't think leftists should ever be held accountable for their crimes because they believe their intentions to be noble but they still chose to willfully engage in crime.
I don't understand this distinction. I realize I'm late to the discussion and will probably not get an answer, but why does this matter to the victim? They don't give a rat's rump as to why their property was stolen. Imagine someone stealing money out of a parked bank truck, $100K or something substantial. No violence, no damage to the truck. Just grab a bag and run, jump into the getaway car, and when the cops give chase, throw all the money out the window and pull over, having never violated any traffic laws.
The robbers got no use from the money. Are the cops limited to charging them with littering and the bank has to file a civil lawsuit to recover damages?
That's ridiculous.
Or imagine someone steals a bicycle from a front yard. It is leaning against the fence,he just lifts it over, doesn't even have to put his arm over the fence because the handlebar sticks out over the sidewalk. No trespassing, no breaking or entering, no violence. If he now throws that bicycle around, stomps on it, destroys it, has he committed no crime and the family's only recourse is a civil lawsuit or small claims court? If he had ridden it ten feet, does that convert it into a crime because he got ten feet of use out of it?
That distinction makes no sense to me. Theft is theft. What happens after the theft makes no difference to the victim.
This is aside from whether the thief thought he was stealing the fishing line or thought it was abandoned. For that, I have little sympathy. He had time to call the authorities after the deed was done; surely he had time to do so beforehand instead.
If there were 19 live sharks on that line, that sure doesn't imply abandoned. How many other baited hooks were there? TFA doesn't say, but if there were 19 live catches, they were recent, and it's likely there were some baited hooks remaining. The crew acted precipitously, negligently, recklessly, or whatever other legal buzzword applies.
Neither of your examples are particularly good analogies, IMO, because there are no circumstances under which a bank truck filled with bags of cash, or a random bicycle leaning against the inside of a yard's fence are particularly likely to be engaged in a crime. Illicit long line fishing is actually a thing that occurs.
Which isn't to say that these people "did good", just that your analogies need work.
Improbability does not make them bad examples. If that's your only objection, you have no real objections.
Assuming a spherical cow is an entirely valid way to start analogies.
"Illicit long line fishing is actually a thing that occurs."
Granted it is a thing but does that mean they've been pulling every long line they come across on the assumption that it's illicit or do the shark sight seeing tour operators only pull the lines with sharks? I mean surely there has to be a better way to show the well paying tourists what sharks look like up close, isn't there?
The thing is they could just as easily picked up the radio and called in a suspected illicit operation and left it to the people and agencies tasked with doing those things, but no, they took it upon themselves and stole someone else's property and discarded what could have been evidence had the long line actually been illicit activity. Why would they discard evidence like that? I guess it's just their FAFO time.
The fact that they say they didn't intend to take for their own use holds no weight because looking at 18 U.S. Code § 641 clearly shows converting it to their own use does not apply to stealing which is why § 641 thoughtfully includes an "or" not an "and" because intent and act are different.
For reference, 18 U.S. Code § 641:
"Whoever embezzles, steals, purloins, or knowingly converts to his use or the use of another, or without authority, sells, conveys or disposes of any record, voucher, money, or thing of value of the United States or of any department or agency thereof, or any property made or being made under contract for the United States or any department or agency thereof; or ..."
That's a fair question. Criminal liability usually requires some for of "evil intent" on the part of the defendant.
If someone does something wrong by mistake, this element of "evil intent" is missing and it is probably best if society treats it as a civil matter.
We don't want to discourage people from taking initiative to stop apparently bad things from happening. If we do that, then people become apathetic and leave correcting bad situations to the government.
If you come across what you expect is an illegal wildlife activity either on land or at sea you don't vigilante it. You note the activity, what you see like a clearly marked buoy and call the state Department of Wildlife with the information including location and do not do anything else. They will want to investigate this themselves.
Agreed. Civil liability. This was a waste of prosecution resources. If you really want a conviction, reduce it to a misdemeanor. We don't want to encourage vigilante justice, but we also don't want to discourage virtuous citizens taking initiative to stop apparent wrongs.
That is exactly correct. Don't disturb anything involving hunting or fishing. If you suspect illegal activity call either the Game and Fish Department or the Sheriff who will contact them for you. If it was an illegal shark catching operation the Game and Fish might have wanted to stake it out and catch someone engaged in a larger operation.
"The line had been set by Scott Taylor, a seafood distributor whom the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration had authorized to catch sharks for research purposes."
If it's illegal to catch sharks with a long line fishing line, then why are government officials allowing some people to break the law? Can't Taylor catch his sharks "for research purposes" (for what research a seafood distributor would do?) in a legal fashion? When the government hands out exceptions to laws, it's picking winners and losers in commerce, which leads to corruption by the political class.
Do we really need bureaucrats deciding who can do what research and in what ways? I say the common law courts can sort out what "research" or actions harms others or not, and stop the research or actions that harms others.
They broke the law,they pay the price they can appeal.
There’s plenty of fish in the sea.
"Judge Barbara Lagoa, joined by Judge Britt Grant, highlighted the perverse consequences of that reading and harshly criticized Assistant U.S. Attorney Thomas Watts-FitzGerald for his "imprudent exercise of discretion" in choosing to prosecute the case."
There needs to be so sort of penalty against lawyers and judges who do this. Prosecution, ruling and sentencing are far too important for the fuck-ups who account for three quarters of the people staffing those professions these days (Maybe more. I've known or met about 40-50 judges in my lifetime and never met one who wasn't a lazy or corrupt moron. Not a single one).
Other jobs have penalties for incompetence, laziness or malicious behavior. With judges and prosecutors as long as they don't break any laws they get to keep on trucking.
The prosecutor for the Duke Lacrosse team, Mike Nifong was disbarred for being an arsehole, attempting to prosecute even when the evidence proved innocence.
George Gascon was given the boot and Cook County Prosecutor, Kim Foxx was not only voted out but lost her license to practice law.
Yeah, but those guys either broke laws or were DAs subject to elections. I'm talking about general incompetence and error-riddled work by rank-and-file prosecutors and judges that would get you canned if you worked for law firm or a corporation.
That's not all Nifong did. He hid evidence and made false statements before the court.
This is a very confusing sentence:
"Prosecutors alleged that Moore and Mansell had stolen Taylor's fishing gear, which they left on the dock, where marina employees discarded it in a dumpster."
So were they sentenced for stealing the fish, or sentenced for stealing the fishing gear? If the former, what's the relevance of this allegation? If it's the latter, what? Did Moore and Mansell pick the gear up from where "they left" it "on the dock," or did pick it out of the dumpster where the marina employees threw it?
Did the "research purposes" include seeing how they taste?
I read that as research porpoises. Are porpoises tasty?
Mild flavor. They will try and scare you away from eating porpoises by telling you they are high on mercury.
Let's put them on sale and let the public decide.
Although Moore and Mansell clearly thought they were doing good
The road to hell...
Refreshing though, that for once it doesn't involve bagpipes, either rescuing old ladies being attacked by a horrible monster, or rescuing a sackful of cats being tortured.
Now if we'd only hold law enforcement to requiring the same level of legal knowledge that we expect the layperson to have as a matter of course.
Ignorance of the law is no excuse - unless you are tasked with enforcing it.
So true.
Vandals get arrested, not news in Florida, but it would be news in cali
That'll teach those wanton criminals! The public can breathe easier now that those two will be facing justice. Who knows what criminal behavior they had planned next? No punishment is too harsh for those two social deviants.
Now if dey be robbin an Ulta store of a couple thou worth of stuff, dey would have just be gettin' deys reparations and sheit.
What's the untold story here? What was the real reason for this prosecution?
It sounded fishy to me as well.
Whatever the reason, it's making waves.
I got hooked on it.
Because you took the bait.
That’s for reel.
The untold story is that most people don't know just how stiff the penalties for interfering in hunting or fishing can be. Some states have included it in their Constitutions
Yet another illustration of the principle of NEVER TALK TO THE COPS, ever no matter what. What more clear evidence do US Americans need that they're so obviously your enemy??? We will never learn as a society that our government has changed from the time and culture of the past.
The DoJ has a different take on it in their press release:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdfl/pr/jupiter-shark-diving-crew-convicted-stealing-fishing-gear-0
Some excerpts:
"...That buoy was clearly marked with the vessel name as required by federal law. Video taken by the tourists clearly showed the markings. Despite Moore’s history as a former commercial fisherman, he and Mansell told their passengers that this was an illegal, abandoned “ghost set” and duped the passengers into assisting in retrieving a lengthy section of the line. "
"After engaging in the illegal conduct for approximately an hour and a half, Moore called state enforcement officers and gave an inaccurate statement of what was seen and found at the buoy site. He claimed he’d found an illegal shark fishing long-line and that he observed entangled lemon sharks, leading to his efforts to cut them free. He never mentioned that the line was attached to a properly marked buoy. The state officer advised Moore to cease his activities pending an investigation.
On the way to place the tourists ashore, Mansell hopped aboard a second outbound dive boat to act as a crewman. He took the fishing line with him and continued the illegal interference and theft of the commercial gear."
"Photos and videos shot by the passengers over the lengthy period of criminal conduct showed the marked orange buoy repeatedly. However, when the FWC officer took his own photos of the line and gear on Moore’s vessel, the buoy which would have established the obvious legality of the shark fishing effort was gone. The officer also noted that all the gear retrieved by Moore and Mansell appeared brand new, with fresh bait on the hooks, and no rust as would be evident with abandoned fishing gear. Moore was advised to leave the gear on the dock as the officer would collect it later as evidence."
"Despite directions from the FWC officer, Moore did not wait at the dock or secure the evidence. Instead, he scavenged the line for the hooks, attachments, and weights and allowed others on the dock to take the rest of the hardware connected to the main line. Moore and Mansell were present when the line was loaded into a cart and the cut-up line placed in a dumpster. The activity on the pier was captured by surveillance cameras."
Thanks. Without this, the story makes no sense. With it, it hinges on judgment as to whether these people were more like the Kramer character on Seinfeld, who, although prone to take liberties, was naive to the existence and operation of lobster traps, or experts on the subject who should have seen the evidence that they were interfering with a legitimate operation — and that the latter interpretation is reasonable.
So Sullum was leaving out some important facts out regarding whether the perpetrator's claim to innocent intent was plausible. How unsurprising.
If that information was given in court, then why didn't the jury find them guilty in 20 minutes? A mystery.
Not surprised those Cato-faggots provided the "facts" that "too lazy to check" Jake Sullum irresponsibly relied on to make his content quota.
There was no mistake and the thieves intentions were clearly bad.
So take a picture of the line and the buoy. Report it to Fish and Game and let them handle it. We all know Reason's bias against Government, unless it's Democrats. If this didn't happen in Florida, we wouldn't have heard of it.
How did a habitual boater not know of the specific purpose and the owner of the buoy and the fishing line?
You don't get to steal other people's property because you meant well. There is no protection for that. A reasonable person does their due diligence and establishes the facts before taking actions that could render them liable for civil of criminal consequences. They should have inquired further or spoken to the fish and game authorities. They did not. They got the facts wrong, took matters into their own hands, and got busted. Why am I supposed to feel sorry for them?
Gee, it's as if Hugo never wrote Les Miserables or Dostoevsky never wrote Crime and Punishment.
A real lubbertarian would ask, did the sharks ask to be freed?
Where does this put Reason on the totem pole of murdered insurance company CEOs?
This is one of the most ridiculous stories I've read in some time. Much was left out that would shoot the entire premise down. That guy who removed a lawful buoy clearly marked and the line should have been prosecuted. The snorklers who were on vacation and relied on him for advice not so much. The people on the dock that the clown gave the hardware to also didn't know what was going on.