Even Without the Sex and Drug Allegations, Matt Gaetz's Nomination Should Have Been Doomed
The House Ethics Committee's findings, combined with Gaetz's lack of relevant experience, again raise the question of why Donald Trump picked him for attorney general.

In a report released today, the House Ethics Committee says it found "substantial evidence" that former Rep. Matt Gaetz (R–Fla.), President-elect Donald Trump's first pick for attorney general, paid women thousands of dollars for sex, used illegal drugs, committed statutory rape, and accepted gifts that violated the chamber's rules. Gaetz concedes that he "probably partied, womanized, drank and smoked more than I should have earlier in life" and that he gave money to women he "dated." But he insists that he never did anything illegal, never exchanged money for sex, and never had sex with an underage girl.
Gaetz resigned his seat in Congress when Trump announced his nomination, which he evidently hoped would prevent the release of the ethics report because it meant the committee no longer had any jurisdiction over him. But the widely reported sex and drug allegations were a key factor in sinking his nomination. He withdrew his name just eight days after Trump's announcement, saying he did not want to be "a distraction [from] the critical work of the Trump/Vance Transition."
Given his scant legal experience, Gaetz was manifestly unqualified to be attorney general. It did not help that he was unpopular with his Republican colleagues in Congress, where he had a reputation as a vain and vindictive showboat fond of divisive political stunts. He might nevertheless have survived the confirmation process were it not for the salacious claims about his recreational habits.
The most serious allegation is that Gaetz twice had sex with a 17-year-old girl during a July 2017 "house party" in Florida. Since the age of consent in Florida is 18 and Gaetz was older than 23 at the time, that would have been a second-degree felony under state law, punishable by up to 15 years in prison. According to the House Ethics Committee, which heard testimony from the alleged victim and "multiple individuals corroborating the allegation," the girl did not volunteer her age and Gaetz did not ask. The committee "did not receive any evidence indicating that Representative Gaetz was aware that Victim A was a minor when he had sex with her." But although it may seem counterintuitive, ignorance of that point is no defense to a statutory rape charge under Florida law.
The Justice Department investigated Gaetz for possible sex-related violations of federal law and decided against pursuing charges, reportedly because prosecutors worried that jurors would not consider the witnesses credible. As Gaetz tells it, that means he was "FULLY EXONERATED." But a decision against prosecution, which hinges on whether the government can prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt, is not the same as exoneration, and the bipartisan ethics committee, which did not have to meet that burden, believed the testimony about Gaetz's alleged sexual encounters.
If the party described by those witnesses had happened in a jurisdiction with a lower age of consent—say, Texas, Pennsylvania, or the District of Columbia—Gaetz's alleged conduct would not have been a crime. But given the law in Florida, incuriosity about the age of a sexual partner would have been reckless, to say the least.
Gaetz insists that the incident described by the committee never happened. He also maintains that his payments to adult sexual partners were gifts rather than compensation for their services. "In my single days," he says, "I often sent funds to women I dated—even some I never dated but who asked. I dated several of these women for years."
According to the House Ethics Committee, Gaetz paid a dozen women and an intermediary a total of nearly $90,000 from 2017 to 2020, often via Paypal, Venmo, or CashApp. The committee notes that Gaetz paid most of that money, some $64,000, to a "former girlfriend," and it concedes that "some of the payments may have been of a legitimate nature." But it notes that the former girlfriend "asserted her Fifth Amendment right when asked whether the payments to her from Representative Gaetz were for sexual activity and/or drugs, or for her to pass on to others for such purposes." Based on that lack of cooperation and "evidence received from other sources," the committee "found substantial reason to believe that most of these payments were for such activity."
Gaetz "regularly paid women for engaging in sexual activity with him," the report says. Although Gaetz "did not appear to have negotiated specific payment amounts prior to engaging in sexual activity with the women he paid," it says, "the women had a general expectation that they would typically receive some amount of money after each sexual encounter."
The nexus that the committee perceives is a matter of interpretation that underlines the arbitrariness of laws against prostitution. There is nothing illegal about giving money to a sexual partner, provided there is no quid pro quo. Gaetz insists there never was.
In support of his characterization, Gaetz cites the testimony of a woman who said, "I never charged anyone anything. It was just given to me….It was all their choice to give me whatever they wanted." He also cites testimony that "we never discussed money" and that at least one woman did not view herself as engaged in "sex work." She said there were "a lot of times" when "I did not get paid for being there," adding, "I thought a lot of these people were my friends."
Gaetz, in short, concedes that he gave money to a bunch of women who had sex with him but rejects the portrayal of those payments as commercial transactions. That might seem like absurd hair splitting, but this is precisely the sort of silly distinction that the criminalization of sex work demands. Standing alone, the allegations about sex and money seem like much ado about private behavior that would be none of the government's business under a saner legal regime.
The same could be said about the allegations that Gaetz used illegal drugs. "Representative Gaetz denied using illicit drugs in written correspondence
to the Committee," the report says. But the committee found "substantial evidence," including testimony from people who said they had witnessed Gaetz's drug use, that he lied about that.
"Representative Gaetz used illegal drugs on numerous occasions between 2017 and 2020, in violation of state laws," the report says. "During the period 2017 to 2019, Representative Gaetz used or possessed illegal drugs, including cocaine and ecstasy, on multiple occasions….The witnesses interviewed by the Committee consistently testified that Representative Gaetz was a frequent user of marijuana."
This is obviously not a good look for a legislator, let alone an attorney general charged with enforcing federal drug laws. But this conduct, like Gaetz's alleged payments for sex, violated no one's rights and therefore is not properly treated as a crime.
Depending on exactly when he used drugs, Gaetz might be charged with hypocrisy. As a Florida legislator in 2012, he supported a bill requiring random drug testing of state employees. As of November 2016, when he first ran for Congress, he opposed marijuana legalization. But he had changed his public position on cannabis by 2019, when he supported a bill that would have repealed the federal ban. The following year, Gaetz was one of five Republicans who voted for that bill when the House approved it. In an interview with Vanity Fair, he complained that "the federal government has lied to our country for a generation about marijuana." And for what it's worth, Gaetz was one of 25 representatives, including more than a dozen Republicans, who voted against a 2018 bill aimed at suppressing online speech related to prostitution.
Unlike paying for sex and using illegal drugs, Gaetz's alleged receipt of improper gifts would not have been a crime. But the committee says it violated House ethics rules.
"There is substantial evidence that Representative Gaetz received impermissible gifts in
connection with his travel to the Bahamas in September 2018," the report says. "Specifically, Representative Gaetz accepted travel via a private plane and other travel costs. Contrary to Representative Gaetz's claims that he provided 'substantial' evidence to the Committee 'demonstrating his innocence' on this allegation, he provided no evidence showing how he paid for any travel costs other than his flight to the Bahamas, despite being given multiple opportunities to do so."
The committee says Gaetz violated another House rule by "us[ing] the power of his
office to assist a woman with whom he was engaged in a sexual relationship in obtaining an expedited passport." The woman "was not his constituent, and the case was not handled in the same manner as similar passport assistance cases."
Finally, the report says Gaetz "engaged in obstructive conduct with respect to the Committee's investigation." Gaetz "continuously sought to deflect, deter, or mislead the Committee in order to prevent his actions from being exposed. This was most notable with respect to the Committee's specific requests regarding the Bahamas trip."
The committee also notes that Gaetz "declined to provide testimony voluntarily and did not appear when subpoenaed." It says he "routinely ignored or significantly delayed producing relevant information requested by the Committee." Although Gaetz's "obstructive conduct in this investigation did not rise to the level of a criminal violation," the report says, "it was certainly inconsistent with the requirement that Members act in a manner that reflects creditably upon the House."
In a dissenting statement, committee Chairman Michael Guest (R–Miss.) and some of his colleagues object to the release of the report, which they say should have been precluded by Gaetz's resignation. "The decision to publish a report after his resignation breaks from the Committee's long-standing practice, opens the Committee to undue criticism, and will be viewed by some as an attempt to weaponize the Committee's process," Guest writes. But the dissenters "do not challenge the Committee's findings."
It is not hard to see why those findings would have given pause to senators charged with considering Gaetz's nomination. Senators presumably would have viewed the allegations of criminal conduct as a drawback for someone nominated to run the Justice Department. And if the senators credited those allegations, as the House Ethics Committee did, they would have had to view his defenses as flagrantly dishonest. But with the notable exception of the statutory rape claim, Gaetz's alleged criminality hinges on laws that wrongly treat private, peaceful behavior as a matter of public concern. And given Gaetz's lack of relevant legal experience, the question of whether to confirm him should have been easy to answer without delving into his sex life or his other recreational choices.
Trump's decision to nominate Gaetz in spite of the widely publicized ethics charges against him nevertheless remains a puzzle. It resulted in an early, embarrassing defeat that could have been easily avoided by nominating a better-qualified loyalist, which is what Trump ended up doing. Contrary to the theories that credit Trump with a Machiavellian motivation, there was no obvious upside to this doomed nomination, and the most plausible explanation is a combination of arrogance and impulsiveness that, depending on your perspective, is either alarming or reassuring.
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Democrats did it first, so it’s ok.
I think JS is most angry because Gaetz was the most consistent one against spending increases along with Massie. Was responsible foe the "chaos" JS decreed when they got rid of Speaker McCarthy. See most of the reason writers only want to complain about spending, not actually have it fixed. Much like the old neocons sarc props up.
I think js is angry because he is a retarded fag
Okay. I concede.
Truer words were never spoken.
Hackjob Sullum is bitter and dishonest for the same reasons he’s always bitter and dishonest: he’s a worthless, lying propagandist cretin who’s only metric is, “does this help or impede my Democrat masters?”.
You're entirely too kind. Sullum is a slimy, steaming pile of TDS-addled shit who should make the world a better place by fucking off and dying.
So, no mention of the fact that the “ witnesses” to the underage sex were a convicted shakedown artist and perjurer who has routinely falsely accused his political foes of the same conduct? And his sex-worker gf was the “victim”, and her roommate who is also supported financially by the perjurer? All of them deemed unreliable by the DOJ
Is that what Glenn Beck said.
Are you retarded?
You got played sullum. Shocking.
Sullum doesn’t care if it’s true or not. He might as well be sarcasmic.
It's Sarc. Did you need to ask? Of course, he's retarded.
You've rarely been on a lot today.
It’s like he vanished!
Sarc? Never heard of him.
That guy never shows up here any more. Never.
It's what the facts say dumbass. The person who arranged the testimony is in jail for lying and making claims about another politician as well.
Meet Greenberg
https://thefederalist.com/2024/11/17/house-probe-into-matt-gaetz-relies-on-witnesses-doj-found-lacked-credibility/
Don't worry. You can refuse to click the link because you prefer narratives and ignorance.
And here is Gaetz showing excerpts from interviews where the women state they are not prostitutes, never traded for sex, never discussed paying for sex...
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/house-ethics-committee-releases-its-report-matt-gaetz
Almost like you only care about drmocrat narratives and not actually facts.
As soon as I care you'll be the last to know.
Ideas ™ , never people.
Man you rarely showed up quickly.
I agree. You don't care about facts. Just Democrat narratives.
You’d have made a good police union rep who always argues for qualified immunity because the circumstances weren’t exactly the same.
Which you basically do anyway when you bring up Babbitt to change the subject whenever there is an article about police behaving badly. According to you that was the worst thing the police have ever done or ever will do, so everything else is excused.
You defended the racist who murdered her.
You’re a sad hypocritical piece of shit.
Yeap.
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I back the blue when they’re right. In this case, as you very well know, the cop didn’t know she was unarmed and from his vantage point he couldn’t see the crowd. He just saw someone crawling through a smashed barricade while hearing chaos on the police radio. So based upon what he knew based upon what he could see and hear, he did what he thought was right.
Sarc is a piece of shit all right.
Notice this was after nearly 4 years of defending him.
How dare you hold him accountable to his own statements!
"I demand cites but if you give them to me I will call you a stalker." - t. Sarckles
Did this non sequtur make sense to you? What does it have to fo with hou choosing intentionally to be ignorant and not caring past democrat narratives?
By the way. Does not being on much mean at least every 30 minutes in your dictionary?
Also weird you brought up babbit while acussing me of doing so. Lol.
If you can stop yourself from being an uneducated douchbag for a second you can read a great summary of this nonsense by Mollie Hemingway over at The Federalist. Here, I'll link it for you so you can read for yourself what a load of horseshit this entire thing is and why no DOJ at either State or Federal level charged Gates with anything.
https://thefederalist.com/2024/11/17/house-probe-into-matt-gaetz-relies-on-witnesses-doj-found-lacked-credibility/
The whole thing is silly, the witnesses unreliable to be generous and the allegations so flimsy that no law enforcement entity went after Gaetz for the alleged illegal activity. This entire "report" is just another hit job by the Democrats and media and has no real reason to have been released as Gaetz is no longer in Congress.
JS;dr. In what way shape or form are Sullum's screeds in any way libertarian or libertarian adjacent? Serious question. Reason still claims, in spite of all evidence to the contrary, to somehow represent "libertarianism" on the national stage. But they continue to publish his dishonest delusional rants? Buy out his contract. Show him the door. Maybe he can find a home with Reason's friends at The Bulwark. If they're not too embarrassed to publish his crap.
There isn't a "conservative criminal" major dem narrative they haven't pushed.
22 of 23 Biden appointments went through.
No matter how bizarre, dumb or unqualified.
"Gaetz is unfit because he did drugs and allegedly paid sex workers. As a libertarian, I personally don't find these to be crimes. But he is still unfit. Also, if a prosecutor doesn't charge a person with drug crimes because the witness wasn't credible, it is not exoneration and that person can be suspected of drug crimes despite never being charged. That's now our position"
Alrighty then.
When Reason criticizes the left, it's usually academic analysis of bad policy. When they criticize the right, they get all personal. Matt Gaetz is "unfit". Trump wants to go after his enemies! The "hypocrisy" displayed by republicans in going after tech is actually more morally repugnant than actual censorship committed by the left! Let's take Elon Musk to task for betraying his "free speech absolutism", and in the same breath defend tech kicking off users in the name of "private business".
Gaetz took out a GOP speaker of the house because he objected to rampant spending. Meaning he was the rare republican willing to go a bit further than waxing poetics on cut spending. Did he get any credit for that? No.
There is no evidence that he broke any laws. Pleading the fifth is not an admission of crime, a fact they reminded Donald Trump multiple times here. A government committee ran by Gaetz haters (unbound by due process standards) should earn healthy skepticism from libertarians. J6 committee was chaired by nothing but Trump haters and they played by their own rules to "find" that Trump incited a riot.
Is AOC unift? Judge Merchan? Alvin Bragg? The lunatic that called Daniel Penny a "white man" in court? The state of NY for allowing a woman to burn to death? You dislike Gaetz for his connection to Trump. I'm sorry to say but that's what all this comes down to do.
It’s (D)different when it’s Hunter Biden, or Barney Frank, or Bill Clinton
This rag has been unwilling to issue any harder criticism of the Democrats than, “maybe they should be somewhat nicer about the overt Communist dictatorship they’re building” since Obama’s second of three terms, and there’s a very clear and obvious reason for that.
Now investigate the other 434.
Donnie only hires the best!
If the charges are true, you should be his biggest fan.
17 is way to old for Pluggo. But he would looking to see if maybe the teen had a much younger brother.
With puberty blockers, they can be young enough much longer.
Appearances aren’t enough for him. He needs them to be real children so their fear and pain is more pronounced. It’s his way.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Why are the sex and drug allegations a problem Sullum?
Like, he takes drugs? We're libertarians. He pays for sex - we're libertarians. He had sex with a 17 year old? Yeah, that's a problem. The prostitution? Tell that to ENB at the next cocktail party.
Secondly, how much 'relevant experience' did Buttigieg have? Did Harris have? Did any of Biden and Obama's picks have? At the end of the day, you get relevant experience by working in - and being captured by - politics. And we're not trying to *run* the DOJ, as a practical matter the DOJ can run itself just fine. We're trying to *reform it*. You don't reform something by bringing in 'experienced' people who have ties to the current agency culture.
She wasn't 17 based on all the evidence available. That's a claim unsupported by anything.
Got a citation for this or just pulling it from the air?
Have you got any actual evidence to the contrary? Because after a two year investigation, Biden’s weaponized DoJ didn’t even have enough for lawfare.
And Jesse did post links above.
She was absolutely 17, as confirmed by the bipartisan committee that made the report. You can’t help but say untrue things when your guy turns out to be a pedophile, can you?
No, that’s you democrats. Like denying the truth of Ashley Biden’s diary. Like Yiu do with most child rapists. Which are almost always democrats. In fact, here’s some news about two of your child raping fellow democrats:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2024/12/24/gay-couple-raped-adopted-boys-100-years-prison-atlanta/
And the only news outlets covering this are American conservative media, and the foreign press. The democrats propaganda outlets are all covering for them.
Why is that?
Since I’m not a Democrat, I don’t understand your whataboutism.
Gaetz is a child rapist. The Catholic Church runs an international pedophile ring. The Boy Scouts shielded their pediphiles from prosecution. Conservatives are the worst offenders regarding pedophilia, then double down by defending their pedophiles. According to your fellow travelers, organized pedophilia is OK.
Now do the teachers union…
https://thefederalist.com/2024/11/17/house-probe-into-matt-gaetz-relies-on-witnesses-doj-found-lacked-credibility/
...he had a reputation as a vain and vindictive showboat fond of divisive political stunts.
Someone should check to see whether he has a Reason commenter account.
Bravo!
if only gaetz was a russia hawk, all of his sins would have been forgiven
Given how much Sullum hates Matt Gaetz, I assume he would have been a great attorney general. Also, given how Sullum has had nothing to say about Marco Rubio, I would assume (if I didn't already know) that he is an absolutely terrible choice for secretary of state.
So Sullum is just a neocon prolifigate spending enthusiast drug warrior looking to lock up hookers? Seems rather u libertarian if it's not just a DNC hitpiece.
You're entirely too kind. Sullum is a steaming pile of TDS-addled shit who should make the world a better place by fucking off and dying.
Yeah, you said that before, so I didn't read it because the answer is still the same: Experience only helps you do whatever it is better, and if what you're doing is evil, that makes things worse. It's better to have someone who promises to do what you want and is incompetent than it is to have a competent traitor.
"Gaetz was manifestly unqualified to be attorney general"
Most of Trump's nominees are manifestly unqualified.
Okay, DEI hire.
Unlike Mayorkas. Man, he's super good at his job.
And Austin? Able to disappear for a week and both nobody knows and nobody seemed to care.
Buttegieg? A man who fucked up so royally people know who the Sec of Transportation is.
Gina Raimondo? Somebody unaware of info released from her own department?
How about Garland? Our own little Goebbels for Biden. He's only shown how lucky we are he did not make it to SCOTUS.
Where are the, you know, competent Biden hires?
Because a guy that is head of Dept of Transportation due to his love of choo choo trains and some guy who dresses up as a female admiral is not unhinged in any way.
Commenting online from your moms basement doesn't exactly make you qualified to even post criticism about others.
It remains undeniable that Gaetz's attack on the imperial powers of the Speaker of the House was a major historical event.
Under Nancy Pelosi, the speakership became America's equivalent of a prime minister's role in a parliamentary system. Gaetz trimmed that back by tackling Keven McCarthy.
The Democrats failed to observe his success, and were led into lemming-like obeisance to Biden, followed by a lemming-like embrace of the unpopular Harris.
“Matt Gaetz is unqualified because he’s not a child-raping tyrant who will embolden violent crime and riots while unlawfully persecuting non-Democrats for thoughtcrimes, as are the Glorious People’s Democratic Communist Overlords to whose crotches my lips are permanently vaccum-sealed.” -Jacob Sullum
He is a child-raping tyrant. Actually, he’s too ridiculous to actually be a tyrant. He’s a petty childish wannabe power player.
But he’s definitely a child rapist.
No, no, you’re thinking of yourself, and your democrat friends, like Biden, Srhike, and these fellow travelers of yours……
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2024/12/24/gay-couple-raped-adopted-boys-100-years-prison-atlanta/
How many kids have you raped Nelson?
None. You are a disgusting person.
Ever stop to wonder how many men or woman convicted of prostitution would like to say, "the money was just a gift"?
You should ask that to everyone at your next democrat get together. Spoiler alert, it’s almost all of them. You and your kind are sick predators
Who knows, but ... how exactly would 4D chess look any different?
You and the rest of the chattering classes are still chattering about this guy who doesn't matter, and his decent AG pick is just going to sail through.
Amusing to watch cultists defend the indefensible. You just can't concede that Gaetz was fundamentally a bad choice and that his conduct even where legal was inappropriate for the AG post.
Meanwhile, Sound advice
Sound advice: Fuck off and die.
I'm a Libertarian. I don't care if someone pays someone else to have sex. I don't care if the person he has sex with is a year under the bureaucratically-determined "magic number" that was just plucked out of the sky. I don't care if someone takes drugs. What I care about is their political agenda and whether it's Libertarian. Gaetz's isn't.
Gaetz is a hypocrite. He one of these holier than thou Republicans that tell people how to live their lives but does what feels good to him. He just the latest version of Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Baker, or Jerry Falwell Jr..
A while ago I came across a plausible explanation for why the Gaetzes and generic preachers don't lose support - to their supporters, all humans are sinners and fall short, so it is to be expected that Gaetz and Swaggart, like the rest of us, sin. However, what matters is that they truly atone and ask Jaysus for forgibness (which we will no doubr hear from Gaetz soon), which is always granted. However, someone who doesn't believe, and hence doesn't atone, why, they're beyond the pale.
But Jesus has said "go and sin no more" and Gaetz his ilk think forgiveness is a revolving door that they can keep using.
Because they are morally bankrupt and know that the Christian thing is just a grift to gain power. None of them actually believe it.
“ Gaetz is a hypocrite. He one of these holier than thou Republicans that tell people how to live their lives but does what feels good to him”
That is pretty much every Republican. At least liberals don’t pretend that they are paragons of moral Christian behavior while having sex with high schoolers.
No, you’re talking about yourself and your kind. Democrats are either some kind of sick rapist or sickos who support and protect them.
Weird. Your accent made “the Catholic Church” sound like “Democrats”.
The Catholics are the ones who run a century-plus-long, ongoing international pedophile ring. They’re still shielding hundreds of rapists from prosecution to this day.
Your kind are far worse than the Catholic Church ever could be. At least they don’t want to mutilate children in the name of some bullshit mental illness.
"I'm a Libertarian..."
You're a steaming pile of left shit, lying about being a libertarian, just like turd.
Did Sullum look into the possibility Matt Gaetz held Trayvon Martin down when George Zimmerman murdered the young black boy?
A month later, after this story ceased to have any legs.
I wonder if Sullum thinks Presidents Kennedy and Clinton, both of whom had sex with untold numbers of women (while married) and took drugs, were unfit to be President?