Indictment: Trump Told Staff To Delete Footage of Boxes Being Hidden
Plus: Abortion will be on the ballot in Ohio, CANSEE Act "would continue the erosion of financial privacy," and more...

Trump and staffers allegedly requested that security camera footage showing moving of boxes be deleted. Federal prosecutors have brought additional charges against former President Donald Trump in the case involving his alleged mishandling and hiding of classified documents retained from his time in office.
These charges come on top of the 37 federal felony charges levied against Trump in June, when he was charged with conspiracy to obstruct justice, willful retention of national defense information (in violation of the Espionage Act), and concealing documents from investigators and a grand jury.
In the updated indictment, special counsel Jack Smith tacked on an additional count related to national defense information and two additional counts related to obstruction.
According to the new allegations, Mar-a-Lago maintenance worker Carlos De Oliveira and Trump aide Walt Nauta tried to delete Mar-a-Lago security camera footage after the Justice Department subpoenaed it—and this was done at Trump's behest. De Oliveira allegedly told Mar-a-Lago's I.T. director that "the boss" wanted it deleted.
De Oliveira now faces a charge of lying to investigators and of "altering, destroying, mutilating, or concealing an object." Nauta—who was indicted on six counts in June, and has pleaded not guilty—and Trump also face the latter charge.
Trump, De Oliveira, and Nauta also face a new charge of "corruptly altering, destroying, mutilating, or concealing a document, record, or other object" with "the intent to impair the object's integrity and availability for use in an official proceeding."
"Trump, Nauta, and De Oliveira requested that Trump Employee 4 delete security camera footage at The Mar-a-Lago Club to prevent the footage from being provided to a federal grand jury," the new indictment claims.
In May 2022, Trump received a grand jury subpoena saying he must return all documents with classified markings."Twelve days later, Trump met with two of his lawyers to discuss the subpoena," Reason's Jacob Sullum explained after the initial indictment in June:
According to the indictment, notes taken by one of those lawyers, Evan Corcoran, indicate that Trump was inclined to defy the subpoena. In "sum and substance," the indictment says, he made comments like these:
"I don't want anybody looking through my boxes. I really don't. I don't want you looking through my boxes."…
"Isn't it better if there are no documents?"
Trump nevertheless agreed to let Corcoran look through the boxes in the Mar-a-Lago storage room on June 2. In the meantime, according to the indictment, Trump aide Walt Nauta, under his boss's direction, moved "approximately 64 boxes" from the storage room to Trump's residence at Mar-a-Lago. As of June 2, Nauta (who also was charged in last week's indictment) had returned "only approximately 30 boxes" to the storage room.
Some of this was caught on Mar-a-Lago surveillance camera footage, which prosecutors requested to see.
Not long after that request, De Oliveira and Trump spoke on the phone for 24 minutes, according to the revised indictment. Two days after that call, De Oliveira and Nauta "went to the security guard booth where surveillance video is displayed on monitors, walked with a flashlight through the tunnel where the storage room was located, and observed and pointed out surveillance cameras," it says.
Several days after that, De Oliveira allegedly had a private conversation with Yuscil Taveras (a.k.a. "Trump Employee 4"), who oversaw Mar-a-Lago security camera footage, in which he told Taveras that "the boss" wanted the computer server containing the footage of the boxes being moved to be deleted. Taveras allegedly replied that he didn't know how to do that and didn't think he was allowed to, either.
"The updated indictment was released on the same day that Mr. Trump's lawyers met in Washington with prosecutors in the office of the special counsel, Jack Smith, to discuss a so-called target letter that Mr. Trump received this month suggesting that he might soon face an indictment in a case related to his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election," notes The New York Times. Trump "is also being scrutinized for possible election interference by the district attorney's office in Fulton County, Ga."
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Abortion will be on the ballot in Ohio. Ohio activists have officially collected enough signatures to get a constitutional amendment protecting reproductive freedom on the November ballot, state officials announced earlier this week. If passed, the measure would amend the Ohio Constitution to say that it protects "a fundamental right to reproductive freedom" with "reasonable limits."
The measure will either need a simple majority or 60 percent of voter support to pass, depending on the outcome of an August 8 election on Ohio Issue 1. Pushed by Republicans, Issue 1 would change the threshold needed to amend the Ohio Constitution from a simple majority to 60 percent, among other changes.
"Secretary of State Frank LaRose determined Tuesday that Ohioans United for Reproductive Rights submitted nearly 496,000 valid signatures, comfortably enough to put the amendment before voters on Nov. 7," reports the Associated Press. "The coalition had submitted more than 700,000 signatures."
Ohio is set to be the seventh state to vote on abortion issues. Kansas put the matter to voters last summer, and it was on November 2022 ballots in California, Kentucky, Michigan, Montana, and Vermont.
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CANSEE Act "would continue the erosion of financial privacy" in the United States. Nicholas Anthony, a policy analyst at the Cato Institute's Center for Monetary and Financial Alternatives, looks at the Crypto Asset National Security Enhancement (CANSEE) Act, a bill targeting cryptocurrency that was introduced in the Senate earlier this month. "The bill broadly defines terms to create sweeping surveillance, potentially violates the First Amendment, and gives the Treasury the authority to effectively prohibit cryptocurrency use in the United States," Anthony writes:
The bill begins by recognizing that the decentralized nature of cryptocurrency poses an interesting challenge for lawmakers seeking broad surveillance. For in the absence of a third‐party intermediary, officials cannot invoke the third‐party doctrine as an end run around the Fourth Amendment. Unfortunately, however, the senators respond to this challenge by simply defining the term "control" as broadly as possible to essentially create third parties where they do not exist.
The term "control", with respect to a digital asset protocol, includes the power, directly or indirectly, to direct a change in the computer code or other terms governing the operation of the protocol, as determined by the Secretary of the Treasury. Such power may be exercised through ownership of governance tokens, administrator privileges, ability to alter or upgrade computer code, or otherwise. [Emphasis added.]
Jerry Brito, executive director of Coin Center, described the problem well shortly after the bill's introduction when he explained that "The bill gives virtually unbounded discretion to the Treasury Secretary to decide what it would take to designate one as having "control" of a protocol. … Indeed, the Senators' deference to the executive branch is breathtaking, allowing the Secretary to define the scope of their power without any public process whatsoever."
It gets worse.
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• "A federal judge blocked a new Mississippi law that would set criminal penalties for some people who help others with absentee voting," reports the A.P. U.S. District Judge Henry Wingate said Mississippi can't enforce the law during this year's elections, as it violates the federal Voting Rights Act.
• "In May, Mastodon server Kolektiva.social was compromised when one of the server's admins had their home raided by the FBI for unrelated charges" and "all of their electronics, including a backup of the instance database, were seized," write Cindy Cohn and Rory Mir at the Electronic Frontier Foundation. "This overbroad police 'seize it all' approach from the cops must change."
• Stanford University's Danielle V. Handel and Eric A. Hanushek looked at the impact of school spending on student educational outcomes, including test stores. "The 16 studies connecting spending and test scores in the United States have a median effect size of 0.07 standard deviations per 10 percent increase in funding (where a positive standard deviation [SD] means improved test scores), but the study estimates range from −0.244 SD to +0.543," note Handel and Hanushek in a policy brief for the Cato Institute. "Seven of these studies suggest an effect indistinguishable from zero."
• Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni has transformed the public perception of herself from far-right menace to "reliable Western partner" and "valued member of the international community," notes David Broder at The New York Times. Yet "Meloni's administration has spent its first months accusing minorities of undermining the triad of God, nation and family, with dire practical consequences for migrants, nongovernmental organizations and same-sex parents. Efforts to weaken anti-torture legislation, stack the public broadcaster with loyalists and rewrite Italy's postwar constitution to increase executive power are similarly troubling."
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Mike Laursen 11 years ago
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Hope we can still use one-off spoof handles to support our comedic stylings.
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What a hypocrite.
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What science don’t they understand, Mike Turducken?
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Disciple, you somehow got the erroneous idea that turducken is genetically engineered.
That is something I think Idaho Bob may have said, but he’s wrong. Turducken is simply regular old bird meat stuffed inside regular old bird meat stuffed inside regular old bird meat. Everyone knows that — well, except Idaho Bob.
How does it compare to golden rice?
Mike. Here is the thread. You literally brought up turducken when talking about lab grown meat and GMOs. Who do you think you're fooling? You thought stuffing one thing into another changed its chemical structure.
https://reason.com/2023/07/26/judge-blocks-biden-administrations-strict-asylum-restrictions/?comments=true#comment-10170304
Was that before or after HO2?
It was 2 days ago, lol.
Was just bringing up another example of Mike's science knowledge.
Fucking hilarious! This is Joe Biden level gaslighting. As Jesse mentioned, you are the retard who thinks turducken is magic reactor meat. You are pathetic
"who thinks turducken is magic reactor meat"
I do? Can you provide a cite where I said any such thing?
Mike Laursen 2 days ago
Flag Comment Mute User
Valid point.
I do predict, though, that we’re not just going to see lab-grown meat. We are going to see lab-grown meat that eventually diverges from trying to taste like it’s animal-grown equivalent, using genetic engineering to improve taste and texture, yields, and nutrient content.
There are precedents for all that from golden rice to turducken.
Admittedly, my comment was informal, but the referent for "all that" should be clear to someone with adult-level reading comprehension:
As we all know, turducken is not lab-grown or genetically-engineered, so the referent for "all that" when we are considering the turducken example is "improve taste and texture". But I also gave the example of "golden rice", which is genetically engineered, and was an attempt to improve yields and nutrient content.
So, when we combine the golden rice and turducken examples they cover genetic engineering, taste and texture, yields and nutrient content. "All that".
All clear to a person with adult-level reading comprehension, unless that person is a mendacious ass who is purposely misinterpreting what they are reading.
Spiiiiiiiin!
They know all that. They twist everything from the people they hate in the worst possible way because they are not honest. It is because they do not come for a discussion, they come for trolling.
Man what a terrible defense of your idiocy. Look. Even sarc called you out in that thread and he is fucking retarded.
It is because they do not come for a discussion, they come for trolling.
Oh, we come for the discussion. The mockery is just a pleasant reward.
Trolling is the posting of deliberately inflammatory remarks just to get responses. sarcasmic is trolling.
Most of the people that mock you and White Mike are not trolling.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought gaslighting was when someone says something and the gaslighting person tells them "No, you're wrong, that's not what you think, this is what you really think!" in an effort to get them to question themselves.
You are correct.
Basically every comment from JesseAz.
Do you have an example or are you gaslighting? I provide links to your past statements you lie about. Weird.
You are wrong. Gaslighting is not telling people what to think. It is telling them to not trust their lying eyes and deny an obvious truth. Like Mike saying "cite" right below the citation of him lumping turducken in with lab grown meat. Or when he flat out denies he said it and that Bob made it up.
Gaslighting is not telling people what to think.
Um, that’s not what I said. I said gaslighting is telling someone they’re wrong when they state what they think, and then telling them they think something else.
It is telling them to not trust their lying eyes and deny an obvious truth.
Like Mike stating what a turducken is and Bob telling him he thinks something else?
Which is not the definition of gaslighting you simp.
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Yes, this post is gaslighting. Good job.
Retard.
No, when you think of 'gaslighting', think more along the lines of Baghdad Bob.
Remember the spokesperson for the Hussein regime who used to get on TV and tell everyone that the war was going very well, and they expected the US to accept defeat in the very near future? While bombs were literally exploding in the background, live on air.
Or, the TV reporter from CNN (I think?) who was reporting from Minneapolis that there were 'Fiery but mostly peaceful' protests, while right behind him, there was an active riot, with cop cars and privately owned businesses on literal fire.
Not gaslighting.
And what you actually do is lie about your past statements that are provided to you.
Define "lumping".
gas·light
verb
To manipulate (someone) using psychological methods into questioning their own sanity or powers of reasoning.
What is an example of gaslighting?
Gaslighting parents will blatantly lie about certain situations. For example, they might insist they never said something or that the child is making things up. They may pretend to have no idea what the child is talking about. This can cause children to question themselves and feel perpetually uncertain.
Which is exactly what you and Mike do on a daily basis. Mike is flat out lying and you know it.
Yeap. Even when provided links they lie about their past talking points. Shrike is another example.
Hey Idaho Bob, by that definition when you said “As Jesse mentioned, you are the retard who thinks turducken is magic reactor meat.” in response to Mike correctly stating what is in a turducken, you were the one engaging in gaslighting.
Here’s a tip: most of JesseAz’s comments are gaslighting. One reason I muted him was because he constantly accused me of saying or doing things I never did, and then called me a liar when I disagreed.
Don’t be a mendacious gaslighting asshole like him. He’s too stupid to help it, but you’re not.
Pour sarc. So confused.
“Mike Laursen 2 days ago Flag Comment Mute User
Valid point.
I do predict, though, that we’re not just going to see lab-grown meat. We are going to see lab-grown meat that eventually diverges from trying to taste like it’s animal-grown equivalent, using genetic engineering to improve taste and texture, yields, and nutrient content.
There are precedents for all that from golden rice to turducken.
sarcasmic 2 days ago Flag Comment Mute User There are precedents for all that from golden rice to turducken.
Neither of those things are grown in a lab. I think lab-grown meat and GMOs are a really bad comparison.”
Who’s gaslighting?
It is funny how sarc will disagree at one point then start defending what he himself said was wrong the next moment. He does it often.
The most tribal poster here.
Who is the one telling him that he really thinks something other than what he just said? I believe that would be you.
And what are you basing it upon? A stupid comment from a couple days ago. Why were you reminded of the comment? A mendacious cunt called JesseAz bookmarked it along with thousands of other comments. Think for a moment about what kind of person does that.
You trying to be like JesseAz? If so you're off to a good start.
“And what are you basing it upon? A stupid comment from a couple days ago.”
That comment is the topic of this conversation drunkass.
We aren’t saying what he thinks retard we are saying what he wrote.
I know you lying shit weasels hate people started bookmarking your idiocy but you and Mike constantly ask for your past statements dumdum.
If you ever decide to stop lying about your past statements I'll gladly stop bookmarking.
Who is the one telling him that he really thinks something other than what he just said? I believe that would be you.
LOL! Except nobody is doing that. Every reference has been to what Mike wrote (not "said") 2 days ago. Mike is trying to pretend that's not what he wrote and that even if he did write that, he really meant something else, and here you are claiming that referencing what he wrote two days ago in context means they are changing what he wrote today.
You are actually gaslighting.
Here is the deal. No matter how much you might wish it, you don't get to change what you wrote in the past. Own it and move on. If Mike had done that, the whole bit would have grown old quickly. As it is, his attempt to gaslight it out of existence is hilarious. Maybe you guys could claim that Tulpa wrote it next?
My comment was providing a direct link to mikes prior comments dumdum.
Do you know how retarded this makes you look?
Hi Tulpa.
The bonding of Hydrogen to diOxide
Lol.
“creepy stalkers”
You’re bad at this parody business, so I’ll help you out.
I have never called anyone a “stalker”. The closest I’ve come is calling commenters here who keep bookmarks of my and other’s comments as “creepy”. I have called them “ankle-biting gnats” or “ankle biters”.
I have recently called Idaho Bob a “knee-jerk hothead” at least a couple of times.
Boring
Do you have citations?
You mean a “white cite”?
I have recently called Idaho Bob a “knee-jerk hothead” at least a couple of times.
"Rage-filled" is your dog whistle term of choice.
The DNC needs a better playbook, or you've failed to update your subscription.
Oh, yes. Mike Turducken, "rage-filled" would be a good one to use when parodying me, but only if you are referring to Idaho Bob.
It’s not a parody you glorious moron.
It is mockery, not parody.
Why do you and sarc use words you don't understand?
The closest I’ve come is calling commenters here who keep bookmarks of my and other’s comments as “creepy”.
LOL, why, because you don't want your own words getting shoved back in your face? Funny how you and chemtard are the only two posters here who whine about saving old comments that are already up on the internet.
And Mike constantly demands examples of his past stances.
Mike: "Show me where I said that."
Rational Poster: "Here you go."
Mike: "That wasn't me, it was Tulpa. And why are you stalking me?"
Like crtl-c > click > ctrl-v > takes any time or effort.
They are just dipshits, resentful that all the lefty narratives they fall for eventually get exposed over time. I fully welcome anyone to review my past comments and show me where my logic and experience led me to the wrong conclusion. It doesn't happen often, and if it does, I will own up to it.
ok
Trump and staffers allegedly requested that security camera footage showing moving of boxes be deleted.
Yuge coverup.
Speaking of coverups, I see Reason is still desperately ignoring the Biden bribery scandal.
They have plenty of time to tell us about Trump hiding boxes that may or may not have his old documents in which is somehow bad, but no time for vice presidential shakedowns, influence peddling and a DOJ/FBI coverup.
Jacob Sullum correctly pointed out the only scandal under Hunter was a lab grown drug tragedy Republicans are using to go after the son of a man they hate. Joe is not connected.
Gonna help you out on the parody thing, again. I don’t think I’ve ever defended Hunter Biden, even once.
That would be more of a thing to include in a parody of Buttplug. He talks about Hunter Biden’s penis — a lot.
I'm not sure Mike understands someone making fun of his idiocy two days ago isnt parody but mockery. But will be fun to watch Mike septuple down today.
And I see sarc is now attacking people despite having the exact same criticism twi days ago. Lol. Principles!
ML...POTUS Biden will be impeached. Speaker McCarthy opened that door, very deliberately.
It was the most beautiful coverup, really I think everyone agrees.
Some peple are saying the greatest cover up ever.
I'd say five years sounds reasonable for Nauta, three years for De Oliverira (unless additional culpability emerges), and just about any term of incarceration is likely to constitute a life sentence for former Pres. Trump.
Sending Trump, after conviction, to Guantanamo might be a good idea. It would make the Secret Service's work easier -- secure, isolated facility.
Right after they pack the Supreme Court, eh rev? The losses are piling up for you and your very bitter clingers.
You’re like the kid who gets his ass kicked on the playground and then insists that he won.
Haha.
Losses?
My side has been winning the culture war for decades and is positioned to continue to do so.
Trump's lawyers are en route to disbarment; hundreds of the un-American, right-wing insurrectionists are behind bars; Trump is being indicted every few weeks and losing in court repeatedly; and his slack-jawed followers are the modern American culture war's worthless roadkill.
America becomes less White, less bigoted, less religious, less backward, and less rural every day, as worthless, elderly conservatives take their stale, ugly thinking to the grave in the normal course and are replaced in our electorate and society by younger, better, less bigoted Americans. Mostly, conservatives have been reduced to just trying to preserve a few safe spaces and special privileges for superstitious old bigots in modern America.
The liberal-libertarian mainstream has all of our strongest research and teaching institutions; our modern, successful, educated communities; our best newspapers and broadcasters; and nearly all of our best entertainments (music, comedy, movies, books, television). Conservatives have hundreds of fourth-tier (or worse), nonsense-teaching religious schools; our desolate, can't-keep-up backwaters, with declining industries and dying towns; and the depleted human residue that remains in our rural and southern sticks after generations on the wrong end of bright flight, a concentrating pool of ignorance, superstition, bigotry, addiction, resentment, dysfunction, and Republican registration.
The culture war is not quite over but has been settled. The good guys have won, and will continue to shape our national progress against the wishes of conservatives.
Better Americans should not become overconfident, though. If conservatives perfect a machine that mass-produces uneducated, evangelical (or Orthodox), roundly bigoted, gullible, economically inadequate, selfish, easily frightened, rural, southern, elderly males -- and Republican lawyers somehow figure a way to register the newly minted goobers to vote -- Democrats could have a real problem on their hands.
Other than that, though, it's over for clingers. You'll do as you are told by your betters, until you are replaced.
The new charges are weak in that they discussed deleting the security videos but apparently didn’t go through with it.
There were also rumors spreading around Twitter yesterday that a Mar-a-Lago employee had drained the swimming pool, intentionally flooding the room with the security servers — but there is no mention of this rumored act in the new charges.
See. This proves my owner is unbiased. He can admit the 50th attempt to get Trump was weak meaning he is a centrist without bias. Hope all you CACLLs can admit to this unbiased stance by Mike and Reason.
Thanks for the acknowledgement!
So the other 49 attempts were fine and dandy mike?
It's not like they destroyed their electronics with hammers, data wiped their servers with a cloth or had the documents in the open in their garage, that would be fine. Reason are such DNC shills it isn't even funny.
A big, beautiful coverup, the best coverup you've ever seen. And Mexico is gonna pay for it, believe me!
Man who didn't get sweetheart plea deal examines the two tiers of justice
https://twitchy.com/brettt/2023/07/27/man-who-didnt-get-sweetheart-plea-deal-examines-the-two-tiers-of-justice-n2385787
Judge Noreika asked USAtty––five times––if there was any precedent for such a one-sided plea agreement, like he gave to Hunter. He said no all five times and even admitted, "this was crafted to suit the facts and circumstances."
They obviously forgot about the deal that Hillary's team got where they were given immunity for nothing so the FBI could destroy the evidence.
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Reasonable limits? Why, that's something everyone can agree on!
can a constitution be declared unconstitutional for vagueness?
“Trump and staffers allegedly requested that security camera footage showing moving of boxes be deleted.”
Should have just bleached a server and smashed all smart phones to really abide by the subpoena, rather than delete footage.
That was completely different. She was a Democrat.
Indeed. I love the exceptionally blatant double standard here. Both were private citizens officially running for office.
This was a nothingburger for Hillary. It's a massive federal crime for Trump.
And Trump did not actually DO anything.
We need to seriously reform grand juries.
Jack Smith is using the same construction to break legal privileges too. Trump asked his lawyers what the law is which means he brought his lawyer into the crime.
We need to seriously reform grand juries.
Good luck with that.
During the pandemic, I spent 6 months on federal grand jury. It is a complete fucking joke. The people I served with seemed incapable of thinking for themselves and just agreed with whatever the government presented.
And given the sheer cruelty of the entire process...that has to change. At this point, I fail to see a POINT in grand juries.
The people I served with seemed incapable of thinking for themselves and just agreed with whatever the government presented.
...Something about indicting a ham sandwich...
Headlines = Trump crimes and abortion.
Great work ENB.
The Peanuts are angry!
Not as angry as you got when your schoolboy crush told you When asked whether Biden or Trump has done "a better job handling the economy," 54 percent said Trump and just 36 percent said Biden.
#Ouch
I guess gaslighting can only take you so far. Pitty
To repeat - my ideal scenario for election day Nov 2024 is a choice of Trump in a prison cell and Biden hooked on intubation in an ICU.
Voters DESERVE it.
Maybe then the libertarian gets 5%.
Where is Kamala Harris in this ideal scenario?
Voters don't deserve THAT.
No one voted for Kam-Kam.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Under the desk, as usual.
Why do you defend Biden daily pushing him as an economic luminary? Nobody buys your lies dumdum.
Because you Trump Cultists LIE.
BIDEN CUT OFF ALL OUR DRILLING!
bullshit like that.
Fact is that TODAY GDP is better, UE is lower, and we are more energy independent.
Those are FACTS.
Joe probably deserves no credit but you don't get to lie and not get called out for it.
Nobody said he cut off all of it retard. He limited new exploration, permits, pipelines, etc. He retarded new energy development retard. You have been given the links hundreds of times at this point. But you are compelled to defend him due to Soros funding him.
Rig count is down.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
2.4?
Trump's numbers looked pretty good, until the pandemic.
She knows which topics will get the CACLLs cackling.
Walls closing in for the umpteenth time.
Edge of my seat over here.
More normies seeing the feds throwing every strand of spaghetti at the wall to see what will stick for Trump while playing nice with Biden's open corruption.
Fatass Donnie deserves prison mostly for the tens of thousands of vendors, contractors, student, investors etc that he fucked over and cheated.
Trump is pure trash.
You deserve prison for posting links to kiddie porn.
Prison is too kind. He deserves an almost fatal beating that leaves his brain entirely unscathed so he can experience it in full.
And then a bullet to the back of the head a week later.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
But mostly because you support democrats weaponizing the legal system.
That's because Reason is still debating whether the Hunter Biden Dick pics are a Russian disinformation op or whether the Pokemon Origin story of COVID is 100% legit or just 99.9% legit. You know, lest they look like Republicans.
I know you spend a lot of time in a conservative bubble, but it isn't that important to normal people to know exactly how SARS-CoV-2 originated. Whether it was a lab leak or the Wuhan market, COVID-19 still sucked, China was responsible either way, the US can't really do anything to punish China for it, and normal people are just happy the COVID-19 pandemic years are over.
On the other hand, for conservatives partisans, there are points to be scored and grievances to nurture.
I mean, sure, it would be a good idea to have an inquiry into CDC screw-ups and any reasonable person has lost trust in the CDC, but the whole punishment boner, "hang Fauci" thing is Team Red vs Blue partisan war bullshit.
It was awfully important to the public health officials that censored people and lied to congress about it.
Mike, you are exactly the kind of useful idiot that will bend over for whatever deprivations the climate cultists have in store for their great reset.
Pathetic.
A federal judge blocked a new Mississippi law that would set criminal penalties for some people who help others with absentee voting..."
What about for people who "help" others with absentee voting?
I wonder myself what "help" means? You know in Wisconsin if I walk my wife's absentee ballot to the mailbox with my own, I am guilty of ballot harvesting. I am guessing that in Mississippi if I remind my wife to request her absentee ballot, I am looking at time in prison.
Cite?
Funny you bring up Wisconsin. They have a law on the books of only election officials being able to help fill out ballots. Yet in 2020 nursing home employees filled out the ballots illegally even for people comatose, with some homes voting at 100% rates. They were even sued by family members of the residents.
Except that what you say did not happen. The actual 2020 voting rate at nursing home in Wisconsin was the same or lower than previous years. Only one facility with 29 residents actually had a 100% voting record.
https://madison.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/michael-gablemans-numbers-on-nursing-home-voting-proven-wrong-again/article_0b7d7a6d-5cf3-5068-83d6-7a4f7a6f3ca9.html
And your lies persist. I said at some nursing home yet you provided a statewide average. Now I know you’re completely retarded, but in this case ill chock it up to intentionally partisan.
Your link actually proves my assertion. Want to link to the family complaints of their family members not being if mind to vote to prove the other facts I stated?
What if you filled your wife's ballot out for her, and then carried it to the mailbox?
sssshhhh, she might find out she voted republican.
Well not Mod's,
But imagine the uproar from dems if that was happening.
https://twitter.com/JohnWolf1239/status/1681312613186273282
NYT: 1/3rd of Official Covid Deaths Were Not Due To Covid According to CDC Data
After relentlessly calling it a "conspiracy theory", New York Times and CDC now admit:
Authorities overcounted COVID deaths and overhyped the pandemic.
And by “up to a third”, they mean more than half.
Covid came from a wet a market
I'm sure that is the only thing the experts got wrong.
Once you get the vax you won't get or spread covid
I'm sure that is the only thing the experts got wrong.
There is no difference in deaths from covid or with covid
I'm sure that is the only thing the experts got wrong.
Two weeks to flatten the curve
I'm sure that is the only thing the experts got wrong.
Mask slow the spread of covid, any mask, paper, cloth doesnt matter just wear the mask. Wear two masks!
I'm sure that is the only thing the experts got wrong.
Everbody is equally at risk, not just the old
I'm sure that is the only thing the experts got wrong.
JFree and Mtrueman swallowed each one, hook line and sinker
The resident sealion is still holding the narrative torch. Everything he read on MSM or the CDC page is indisputable truth.
Fucking creepy.
I think you are referring to me, right?
I’m sorry to disappoint you but I think I have the same beliefs as you on at least half of the things Spiritus listed.
Not at the time the talking points were being used to silence people dumdum.
Half? Which half do you still believe?
I’ll try to respond in detail later.
Covid came from a wet a market
Agree that the "experts" seem to have tried to suppress the lab leak theory. I don't claim to actually know what went on in a foreign city; it sounds like the US contributed to research at the lab but the actual research that led to SARS-CoV-2 was conducted secretly by the Chinese military. Either way, lab leak or created in the lab, it is embarassing to China and China's fault.
Once you get the vax you won’t get or spread covid
I'm sure you can quote someone who made such a claim, but it was never the official line. Anyone with any intelligence knew that the vaccination would only decrease chance of getting COVID-19 (or of having severe symptoms) and decrease chance of spreading it to someone else.
Joe Biden said it
Here is your white cite
https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-health-government-and-politics-coronavirus-pandemic-46a270ce0f681caa7e4143e2ae9a0211
Mike that's not a fair statement, I live in a very liberal part of MT and when that shot came out it was total belief that they were immune from contracting covid.
Who had this total faith?
Caw caw!
I’m sure you can quote someone who made such a claim, but it was never the official line.
Holy fuck, White Mike, 95% efficacy was the official line and was repeated ad nauseum.
(Vox, 2020).
Here it is as a fact check.
https://www.factcheck.org/scicheck_digest/what-does-it-mean-to-say-a-vaccine-has-94-percent-efficacy-or-higher/
I don’t call him Mike Liarson for nothing.
The fucking CDC changed the definition of vaccine in front of the whole nation.
"It was never the official line."
I would authorize a 2000 week abortion if it were Mike's mom making the request.
There is no difference in deaths from covid or with covid
Of course there is a difference, and I've never said otherwise.
Two weeks to flatten the curve
Obviously it wasn't so. I never commented on that particular claim.
Mask slow the spread of covid, any mask, paper, cloth doesnt matter just wear the mask. Wear two masks!
I was in favor of wearing masks before the vaccine was developed. So, you got me there!
Of course, different types of masks have different levels of effectiveness. I've never said otherwise.
Of course, different types of masks have different levels of effectiveness. I’ve never said otherwise.
This is true.
Cloth masks: 0%
Surgical mask: ~11%
N95 mask: ?!?~?% depending on setting, how it's used, when it's used, if it's real, fitted, not counterfeit and well, maybe the net effect of all masks overall in society in actual no shit use, is... well, zero.
This is true.
So we agree.
Everbody is equally at risk, not just the old
Another one where I'm sure you can find someone who said this, but it was never the official line. And anyone with any intelligence knew that the elderly and obese were at greater risk.
It may not have been the official line. But the official line also did nothing to disabuse people of the false notion that young healthy people faced anything like the risk the elderly faced.
Don't forget the winter of death that wasn't.
Those mother fuckers tried thier best to get everyone who wasn't jabbed fired from their jobs. Fuck them forever they can never be forgiven. May they burn in hell forever.
Everyone?
Or Federal employees and healthcare workers?
Holy shit, there was a SCOTUS decision overturning it asshole.
Mikey is ever the perfect lefty, right down to the rewriting of history while it can still be remembered.
OSHA governs every workplace in the US, you gaslighting shitbag. Biden passed an OSHA mandate that went all the way to SCOTUS.
Plus you flamed the Governor Abbot for passing an executive order banning employers from requiring the jab for weeks. I personally argued with you about it.
Here in NY it would be everyone.
Everyone who's employer had 100 or more employees. The OSHA rule and court battles? If that had been successful they would have moved on to everyone else.
DOOM!
"from a wet a market" - you forced me to read the entire thing in a fake Italian Mario like accent.
"1/3rd of Official Covid Deaths Were Not Due To Covid According to CDC Data"
Oh, is this another one of those "we saw it actively happening, but we were called conspiracy theorists when we pointed it out" kind of things? Those are always fun.
But there have never been any true conspiracy theories. Trust me.
People were ridiculed for trying to point out the difference for dying with Covid and dying because of Covid.
Having Covid makes you more susceptible to injuries from motorcycle accidents, you see...
Sneezing causes crashes.
"dying with Covid and dying because of Covid."
Yeah, I have noticed that when the pandemic was in full swing, there was a lot of "with or of?" type questions. Now it's flipped and I see more people asking that same question, but in regards to whether or not the dead person was vaxxed or not.
Not just ridiculed but banned from social media
We weren’t right, just lucky!
Mike doesn’t care and doesn’t think that any normal person does.
Any further investigations on the boxes joe had stacked next to the corvette?
Just wondering.
Biden and Hillary said "aw shucks" after they got caught so I guess the feds thought that was enough.
There's no witch hunt going on, that's for sure.
And certainly no double standard.
Those boxes only contained cocaine.
They have no idea who it belonged to or how it got there.
How do they know this if it was deleted and they haven't seen it?
The video wasn’t deleted. The new charges only accuse them of discussing the act, but not committing it.
The new charges are weak, but the prosecutor probably added them because they make it harder for Trump to credibly use “there was nothing wrong with my having the documents” as a defense.
So, it is criminal to discuss but not actually do anything?
Interesting.
Again, smashing cell phones are charges NO responsible prosecutor would bring forth...
Thoughtcrimes are worse than actual crimes.
That's different. Orange Man not involved.
“So, it is criminal to discuss but not actually do anything?”
Well, personally I don’t think it should be, but IANAL, so I cannot say that it is not in fact illegal. It may well be; we have a lot of laws.
You know, you could just ask me my opinion about matters such as Hillary Clinton’s guilt instead of making erroneous assumptions.
“Again, smashing cell phones are charges NO responsible prosecutor would bring forth…”
I suppose that is supposed to be a “gotcha” against me because I am assumed to be a Hillary Clinton defender. You may be surprised to hear that I think she should have been prosecuted for mishandling of secure information.
I am all for treating people in identical situations identically. Hillary is now what the level of prosecution should be for such criminal matters.
"BUT HIZ DOCUMENTZ!!!"
I agree with you.
Do I really need to go pull up the sullum article to see if you agreed?
"What difference, at this point, does it make?"
Have you never heard of "attempted" crimes? This is that. And it is also very probative as to their guilty state of mind.
Can you show me attempted conspiracy crimes? Is it an attempt if no action was ever taken?
What?! Furtherance, even in cases of criminal conspiracy, is still generally necessary for a prosecutor to seriously consider an attempt charge.
Well, if you make a few assumptions, yes. If there's a subpoena and you're required to turn things over, and you attempt to destroy them to avoid handing them, that's a crime. I'm completely fine with this being part of the legal system.
I'd just need to see the evidence. I've read the indictment, and aside from relatively mundane text messages and guys looking at where the security cameras are, it all comes down to an IT guy claiming a maintenance guy came to him and told him "the boss" wanted to delete stuff from the server. And then, after being told he couldn't do it...that's apparently the entire end of that.
So the evidence that they "attempted" to destroy evidence is pretty flimsy. If they really wanted to delete it, why did it end after talking to one guy? It all really hinges on one conversation involving parties who aren't Trump based on second-hand explanations of what Trump wanted.
If the server actually did get bleached after that, you could say that the conversation was likely an act in furtherance of that. Without evidence of actions being taken, it seems pretty flimsy. But maybe there's more people who have testimony that could corroborate it, I dunno.
All the charges are weak. Amusing seeing all the "true" libertarians support the espionage act.
Charge stacking.
It's something I thought progressives wanted to end with prosecutorial reform.
Food Trucks
https://twitter.com/ada_lluch/status/1682772663897403395
A dozen of North Africans tried to assassinate a 19-year-old model in Toulouse, France, this past Wednesday because “she wasn’t dressing properly.”
Her name is Anissa. When they started to follow her, she had no idea what was happening. They broke her nose, stabbed her, and disfigured the young woman having to receive more than 50 stitches throughout her body.
Since most of them are minors, this attempted francocide will not have harsh consequences for the aggressors, while the young Anissa will bear a lifelong trauma.
Cultural enrichment.
https://news.yahoo.com/veteran-killed-fargo-police-ambush-144533155.html
Wallin, 23, was killed July 14 when a man armed with 1,800 rounds of ammunition, multiple guns and explosives ambushed officers responding to a routine traffic crash. Two other officers and a civilian were wounded before a fourth officer returned fire, killing gunman Mohamad Barakat. Police said the actions of the fourth officer likely spared the city a bigger, bloodier attack.
"Meloni's administration has spent its first months accusing minorities of undermining the triad of God, nation and family, with dire practical consequences for migrants, nongovernmental organizations and same-sex parents. Efforts to weaken anti-torture legislation, stack the public broadcaster with loyalists and rewrite Italy's postwar constitution to increase executive power are similarly troubling."
That playbook works when the natives are fed paranoid delusion.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
https://twitter.com/julie_kelly2/status/1684760089700315136?t=MJSdxW3bJ0aYjYHBXH8Ycw&s=19
This is a terrible answer with a low-key shot at Trump’s age. No forceful argument about the brazen weaponization of DOJ against Trump and his supporters. This is an unprecedented trajectory that has nothing to do with his age or Nixon or what’s “best” for the country.
Keep in mind — Florida has the most J6 defendants of any state including those charged with “seditious conspiracy” and several held under pretrial detention orders. This is a wholly inadequate response.
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“ I am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth and inexperience,"
R. Reagan
"I am not going to fight the stalinist left as their KGB persecutes my political ally"
-Ron DeSantis
https://twitter.com/FromKulak/status/1684763852100042752?t=qL9qqS3y_DgPHDmFLbmMag&s=19
RFK Jr. is more popular amongst Democrats than Ron DeFeedingTube is among Republicans
Establishment shills on Suicide Watch.
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https://twitter.com/CurtMills/status/1684668431776559109?t=gYB78yAx9sKbGxkBWXXUOdhiAS8yEmog7f_ikkDzGF4&s=19
DeSantis trading below Vivek R
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I for one am glad vivek is rising. He plans on doing far more podcasts such as Tim Pool.
Truthfully, I would like to hear more from Vivek R as well.
"Ron DeFeedingTube"
I didn't understand the reference, so I looked it up. Yeesh, that's pretty grim.
From the Substack of He Who Is Not To Be Named. China is getting its $$ worth from the Bidens:
Last August, in an amalgamation of “The Green New Deal” meets “Build Back Better,” President Joe Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act gifted the renewables industry with billions of dollars worth of taxpayer-funded subsidies.
What few backing the bill realized was that the largest beneficiary would likely be China due to its expansive grip on the global solar photovoltaic (PV) industry. Worse than that, it might end up misdirecting the world’s clean energy efforts into dirtier than appreciated energy technologies because of the country’s ongoing dependence on coal-fired energy.
...Over the course of a four-month investigation, Environmental Progress has confirmed that Ecoinvent — perhaps the world’s largest database on the environmental impact of renewables — has no data from China about its photovoltaic industry. Meanwhile, the ultimate source of the IEA’s supposedly public data on PV carbon intensity is confidential, and the data, therefore, is unverifiable.
Much of the cradle-to-grave carbon intensity data that governments depend on to guide photovoltaic arrays are instead based on modeling assumptions that are likely to have grossly under-estimated — if not made up — solar’s carbon emissions because they cannot get insights from Chinese manufacturers.
In its most recent report, the IEA predicts that China will continue to dominate solar energy production, delivering over 50 percent of solar PV projects globally by 2024. This trajectory is especially concerning given that China already commands most solar panel production.
Science, bitches!!!!
Last week Public and Racket revealed that top researchers privately believed a lab leak was plausible despite claiming to rule it out in a hugely influential March 2020 paper, “The Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2.” These revelations have led to growing calls by neutral observers for Nature Medicine to retract the paper.
“I’m not a big petition guy,” said statistician Nate Silver, “but if Nature isn't ready to retract this paper on their own that's a big L for their credibility and about as clear a sign as you can get that they're elevating politics above science.”
Roger Pielke, Jr., a leading science policy expert, wrote, “The case for retracting Proximal Origins is overwhelming because we now know, undeniably, that it was seriously flawed and misleading.”
Yet on July 22, Nature Medicine’s editor-in-chief, Joao Monteiro, told The Telegraph that a retraction was “not warranted” because the paper was a “point of view” and not a research study.
Some opinions are allowed, others are not.
Stalin killed more than Lenin and Hitler combined.
https://www.thefp.com/p/seattle-times-writer-fired-over-hitler-lenin
Earlier this month, for my first official column, my boss urged me to write about the local statue of Vladimir Lenin that stands in Seattle’s Fremont neighborhood. The good people of Fremont enjoy dressing him up in tutus, Halloween costumes, and the like. I was more interested in writing about the astronomical cost of childcare in the city, but it wasn’t hard to make the column all my own. I simply had to talk about my refugee grandparents, making pelmeni with my babushka, and my grandfather Josef, the Nazi killer after whom I am named. I noted Lenin’s secret police raids, mass torture, forced resettlements, and genocidal killings.
The column began by reflecting on Karl Marx’s last words as a London-based correspondent for the New York Daily Tribune, in which he “attacked the hypocrisy of Westerners who defend sacred values only when it suits them.” In other words, it was about selective outrage rather than the statue itself. I concluded by saying I am a democratic proceduralist who supports the community’s decision to keep the statue, even if it deeply offends me.
Readers thanked me. Some shared stories of their own families fleeing Russia, or told me how their grandmothers broke down weeping when they reached America only to find Lenin staring down at them in the land of the free. Many critics claimed I had advocated for tearing the statue down. Perhaps the most common criticism I received was that no one takes the statue seriously.
Oh, but they do. They admire it.
The day after my column was published, I received my first response. “The Seattle Times is so desperate for new staff they hire folks from rural Georgia for their editorial board?” Another wrote, “We don’t need more faux outrage.” Another reminded me it was the Soviets who “single-handedly defeated Nazi Germany” and that the statue was “simply a funky piece of art.” Still another, “You miss the point. It is a JOKE.”
I also received a flood of positive responses. People shared family stories and photos. A retired high school history teacher said my piece was “excellent.” Someone else called the column “an exemplar of reporting as civic leadership. Every touch is perfect.” One letter came from a descendant of Western Ukrainian stock who said the statue should stay “as a testament to the failure of Communism.” A Lithuanian refugee recalled living long enough to see statues of Lenin fall in Vilnius and sadly pondered whether she would live long enough to see them fall in America.
I responded to almost every email, and tried to be gracious, even to the nasty ones. A few I even won over.
But I made a mistake when I posted the column on Twitter and compared Lenin and Hitler. Here’s what I wrote: “In fact, while Hitler has become the great symbol of evil in history books, he too was less evil than Lenin because Hitler only targeted people he personally believed were harmful to society whereas Lenin targeted even those he himself didn’t believe were harmful in any way.”
I was only speaking in terms of intention—of who wanted to kill more, not who actually did, and in a follow-up tweet I explained: “Hitler was more evil than Lenin if we’re looking at what they did to people and that’s a pretty important metric for assessing evil!”
Let me be absolutely clear: actually killing more people, which Hitler did, is more evil. Lenin killed 4 million people, possibly up to 8 million, whereas Hitler killed roughly 20 million, including 6 million Jews. “In terms of death and destruction, the Nazis were more evil,” I wrote on Twitter. I also wrote, “Hitler was more evil in terms of how many he killed.”
Between forced collectivism and the purges, the Soviet Union is linked to over 60 million deaths. Chinese collectivism and purges are linked to 80 million deaths. The Khmer Rouge, North Korea, the list goes on.
Everywhere Marxist socialism takes root, the death toll is astronomical. That is the legacy of Vladimir Lenin. And yet, like Che "child murderer" Guevara, he is still hailed as a hero.
Oregon Rolls the Dice on Transgender Care
Doctors can now treat adolescents 15 years and older without parental permission or even notification.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/oregon-trans-gender-affirming-care-children-824dc69a
I was glad to see the letter signed by 21 clinicians and researchers from nine countries that rejected the Endocrine Society’s claim that “gender-affirming care improves the well-being of transgender and gender-diverse people and reduces the risk of suicide” (July 14). In Oregon, activist groups and Democratic lawmakers used that claim to pass a new state law—signed by Gov. Tina Kotek right around when the letter was published—expanding access to these experimental, risky and sterilizing procedures...
This is not happening!
/idiot mike
It has never happened!!
Mike (Turducken) Laursen
I have Ra’s muted. What never happened?
Why brag about being ignorant?
Sad!
OK, I unmuted Ra’s to see what his comment was about, and read the letter printed in the Wall Street Journal. It doesn’t say anything that contradicts anything I have ever said.
Thanks a lot for wasting my time.
Ha ha
I mean just in this thread you lied about a comment from 2 days ago up top.
Haha. Blaming others for wasting your time sounds like a real victimhood narrative you got goin on there, laursen.
Demonic
Republicans need to pass legislation maintaining, federally, that doctors who perform such procedures are on the hook permanently for any damages suffered by their patient.
I was glad to see the letter signed by 21 clinicians and researchers from nine countries that rejected the Endocrine Society’s claim that “gender-affirming care improves the well-being of transgender and gender-diverse people and reduces the risk of suicide” (July 14).
I'll note that the study they use to make this claim from the University of Washington actually doesn't prove what the researchers claimed in their narrative, but they had to bury the data deep in the back of the report to try and hide it. It basically boils down to, "This treatment provides these benefits because we say it does."
“This treatment provides these benefits because we say it does.”
They would have us believe that Van Gogh severing his ear improved his mental health because he thought it did.
Progressivism is just cover for incompetence. We aren't idiots, we're SAVING THE EARTH!!!
South Africa Beats Climate Goal as Blackouts Slash Emissions
South Africa emissions are falling, ahead of a 2025 target
Power plant breakdowns are reducing industrial activity
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-15/south-africa-beats-climate-goal-as-blackouts-slash-emissions
How to fix global warming? Bring back rationing, say scientists
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/how-to-fix-global-warming-bring-back-rationing-kqqnsn9sn
Second World War-style rationing of petrol, household energy and meat could help to fight climate change, British scientists have recommended.
Researchers from Leeds said that rationing would help countries to cut their carbon emissions “rapidly and fairly” even though it was often seen as an “unpalatable” option.
Making a comparison with the need to limit the consumption of certain goods as they grew scarce during the war, researchers noted that the idea of achieving this by increasing taxes was rejected in the 1940s because “the impact of tax rises would be slow and inequitable”. Their study, published in the journal Ethics, Policy & Environment, noted: “Rationing has been neglected as a climate change mitigation policy option.”
It added that rationing was widely accepted in Britain
All these experts need to do is to demonstrate their seriousness by doing it themselves FIRST.
Rationing is a way to keep the elite supplied while the peasants starve.
The elite climate klan can't even put down their private jet use.
Their study, published in the journal Ethics, Policy & Environment, noted: “Rationing has been neglected as a climate change mitigation policy option.”
They really need to remove "Ethics" from the title of the journal. Collectivism has lead to the death of millions every single time it has been forced on a population.
Next up: "“Carpet bombing has been neglected as a population mitigation policy option.”"
https://twitter.com/laralogan/status/1684926852987523072?t=3uxOJSw-Jixj-bo8NjQN2w&s=19
Millions now know the truth about Covid. And….nothing.
People are dying because of the vaccines and….nothing.
The nation knows Russia-collusion was a seditious conspiracy to undermine a legally elected President.
And…nothing.
It’s now obvious “climate change” & the green movement is a total scam to manipulate & control, isolate us geographically, destroy the natural food supply & starve populations across the globe. And….nothing.
Big Tech is working with big govt to undermine every constitutional right we have and….nothing.
American citizens have been denied their right to a free trial & have been sitting behind bars for years because those in power are abusing the law and…. Nothing.
Really makes you wonder what it will take. Is this how good people lose everything and nations slide into catastrophe and people wonder afterwards, “how did they let this happen?”
How long before it’s too late?
several years ago. too many people are too invested in ignoring this. can you imagine having to admit you were this wrong to the entire world?
Logan asks a fair question, Nardz = Really makes you wonder what it will take. Is this how good people lose everything and nations slide into catastrophe and people wonder afterwards, “how did they let this happen?”
The kids own thing is to be buttf--ked by groomers, who will have the relationship with them you don't.
Don’t Play With Your Kids. Seriously.
I have three kids under 10 who don’t expect — or even want — to play with me. It took some practice, but over time, we’ve all learned we’re better off doing our own thing.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/15/magazine/kids-play.html
I have three kids under 10 who don’t expect — or even want — to play with me.
Because they know you are an asshole.
I hope they see no point in playing with her when she is old and alone.
Oh, they will. Bitch will die with her cats.
Maybe she should listen to "Cat's In the Cradle" eventually. Her plan is not a new one.
New media narrative; Climate change causes those blood clots everyone is getting.
The agency added that even a small divergence from average seasonal temperatures can have a major impact,
So don’t be flying off to the Caribbean for the winter!
I thought the clots were a myth, and that we're hearing about them more from evil conservative media while they had always been happening
Weird how a virus that kills off old people who are more susceptible to clots and a pandemic response that, between passively telling people to sit in their homes and develop clots and rather actively locking them in their homes to develop clots, we're still hearing about an increase in clots even among those not traditionally likely or susceptible.
Is there anything the almighty climate change cant do?
Seriously, its a religious cult. Industrialization is our original sin, and climate change is the embodiment of sin/evil in the world. It can do all things evil.
The only pathway forward is to pray and sacrifice to mother Gaia and eat the bugs, live in the box (life of austerity) and of course pay penance to daddy govt
Do you remember this thread on Usenet newsgroup from 2001?
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.politics.usa.republican/c/A5NskJ1y5XQ/m/iOjDupb8SKoJ
I was catching the contradictions back then!
Didn't "silverback" post here at one time? That screenname looks familiar.
It's rather hilarious that a no-kidding Luddite like Uncle Ted sounds more sane in his manifesto than the various end-times enviro-cultists. Shit, even Edward Abbey wasn't this fanatical.
I have seen this done with other subject matter, so as an exercise for anyone interested, pick a subject matter and then add "caused by climate change" and see what you get.
For example: Insomnia - https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/05/21/climate-change-sleep-hotter-nights/
“Infertility”, “Traffic Jams”, and “Blindness” were the first three I tried. All three came up with articles making the claim.
However, the fourth, “smelly feet”, came up with nada.
https://twitter.com/peterschweizer/status/1683829601347174400
Large donor buys Hunter's artwork, then gets appointed to a government commission....
TRUMP HAS FILLED HIS CABINET WITH A GOON SQUAD OF RICH DONORS
And he’ll be governing for their gain, not yours.
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Trump nominated nearly a dozen donors for Cabinet-level or high-ranking administration positions. According to OpenSecrets, nine of Trump’s appointees contributed to his campaign or allied PACs. Two other appointees, Betsy DeVos (education secretary) and Todd Ricketts (deputy commerce secretary), come from families who gave $1.8 million and $1.3 million respectively to Trump’s campaign, affiliated PACs, and the Republican Party during the 2016 cycle.
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Having such a large number of donors in a Cabinet is unprecedented. According to Politico, “Donors also represent 39 percent of the 119 people Trump reportedly considered for high-level government posts, and 38 percent of those he eventually picked.” In the past, even whiffs of potential conflicts of interest or pay for play were enough to sink a potential nominee. Obama considered Democratic mega-donor Penny Pritzker for commerce secretary in 2008, but she withdrew before the nomination process (though she later filled the position in 2012 and came under fire for her political contributions). Obama’s pick for Health and Human Services, Tom Daschle, took himself out of the running because of back taxes and his work as a highly compensated advisor to healthcare companies, which presented a possible conflict of interest. Needless to say, President-elect Trump hasn’t concerned himself with reducing potential conflicts of interest when choosing appointees.
https://theoutline.com/post/858/trump-populist-lie-cabinet-data-rich-donors
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDSs-addled lying pile of lefty shit.
Emmy Award-Winning Journalist Pleads Guilty to Transportation and Possession of Child Sexual Abuse Material
https://www.thepublica.com/emmy-award-winning-journalist-pleads-guilty-to-transportation-and-possession-of-child-sexual-abuse-material/
A high-profile investigative journalist who worked with ABC News and the New York Daily News has just pleaded guilty to the possession of horrific child sexual abuse materials. James Gordon Meek, 53, once held a position as a senior counterterrorism adviser and investigator for the US House Committee on Homeland Security.
Meek, an Emmy award-winning journalist, was found to have been in possession of thousands of pieces of child sexual abuse media dating back to 2014, one being a sick video of an infant girl being raped. Meek also sent abuse materials to other pedophiles, and engaged in graphic conversations fantasizing about the rape of children....
ABC News Reporter, Who ‘Debunked’ Pizzagate, Pleads Guilty To Child Rape
https://dainikbidyaloy.com/2023/07/26/abc-news-reporter-who-debunked-pizzagate-pleads-guilty-to-child-rape/
In a disturbing message that Meek sent, he asked an unnamed user, “Have you ever raped a toddler girl? It’s amazing.”
Before his arrest, Meek regularly wrote hit pieces against Trump supporters, QAnon and ‘conspiracy theories’ such as Pizzagate.
Radaronline.com reports: Other disturbing accusations on exchanges the agency said they found on his devices included Meek sharing his fantasy of “abducting, drugging, and raping” a user as a 12-year-old girl.
Shrike is crying at the news.
Gosh, it sure is a coincidence how so many leftists claiming that child sex trafficking isn't as bad as people think are getting exposed as pederasts.
Anyway, anyone trafficking in this stuff should be lined up against a wall and shot with an anti-aircraft gun.
I gotta admit, even with all the plain obviousness of conspiracy theories that were true or would be revealed to be most probably true, the idea that the whole system was run by an underground child sex traffic ring was still exceedingly incredulous (in an actual both sides fashion).
At this point, however, I'm not so sure it won't join the pile of Conspiracy Theories that were true, except that I initially discounted it.
I'm starting to feel the same way.
another day, another adamant left wing journo who claims groomers arent real and we should look the other way found to be a pedo.
What. A. Shock.
No wonder these people hate sound of freedom
Still waiting on Epstein’s client list.
One nasty fucker on Epstein's list: Ehud Barak.
That asshole is busy tearing Israel apart; the sooner he permanently departs, the better for Israel. Slimy SOB was photographed going to Epstein's place multiple times. You think he went there for tea and crumpets? NFW.
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BREAKING???? Rep. James Comer says six banks, including JP Morgan, Bank of America, and Wells Fargo, submitted over 170 suspicious activity reports to the Treasury Department regarding the Biden family, alleging their involvement in money laundering, human trafficking, and tax fraud.
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Rep. Comer highlighted one specific SAR linked to a $3 million wire from China to Biden's business partner, Rob Walker. This money was received in an inactive account that had maintained a $50,000 balance for ten years before the significant wire transaction from China.
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Within just 24 hours of receiving the wire, Walker initiated incremental payments to several Biden shell companies, eventually disbursing funds to four different Biden family members.
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"They sent it to a company called Robinson Walker. Then they wired it to a company called Owasco. Then they wired it to another company called Bohai. These companies don't do anything with the money."
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1684653912689872896
https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1684280179471048707
Reminder that two days after this plea deal was announced, Hunter Biden was partying at a State dinner where the Attorney General was also in attendance.
https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1684296116383145985
FIX WAS IN: While supposedly prosecuting Hunter Biden, Delaware prosecutor Alex Mackler shows up in Oct. 16, 2018, message on Hunter’s laptop:
“[W]as wondering how life is on your end. Last you told me you were out in LA. Gimme a call sometime we can catch up. Love you brother”
https://twitter.com/VinceCoglianese/status/1684638957059837952
Here's a wild detail from the Hunter Biden court transcript:
The infamous "paragraph 15" -- which contained a stunning non-prosecution agreement for Hunter -- wasn't provided to the judge until just before the hearing.
JUDGE: "I didn't get a copy of paragraph 15"
FTX charges are slowly being dropped.
Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
Did you know that over the past two months, 6 of the 13 charges against FTX fraudster Sam Bankman-Fried have been dropped? There's a very real chance that one of the worst scammers in American history will get a slap on the wrist.
https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1684603934365847552
The latest being campaign finance, something the Biden DoJ went after Dinah D'Souza strongly.
There needs to be a Truth Commission about what Biden and Garland have been doing. Heads absolutely need to roll.
New emails from Facebook show social media companies weren't censoring on their own without pressure disrupting the narrative jeff, sarc, and Mike push.
"During the first half of 2021, social media companies like Facebook faced tremendous pressure from the Biden White House—both publicly and privately—to crack down on alleged ‘misinformation,’" he continued. "In April 2021, a Facebook employee circulated an email for Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg and COO Sheryl Sandberg, writing: ‘We are facing continued pressure from external stakeholders, including the [Biden] White House’ to remove posts."
https://www.foxnews.com/media/smoking-gun-documents-prove-facebook-censored-americans-behalf-white-house-jim-jordan-says
https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1684796500835172352?t=QYmp60x-JeZTr3FzClaLBg&s=19
3% of vaccinated will have heart problems from the jab
This is 10’s of millions of people
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100% safe and effective with no downsides!
I can understand why the elderly would risk this.
But why was there so much pressure for vaccinate the young against this disease?
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Power
Women.
Titties and beer.
Baby elephants tied to stakes.
Baptism with the official religion's chosen sacrament.
Also "was"? There are still at least a couple dozen universities requiring boosters to attend.
So a tweet of a tweet is considered evidence?
If they can use "I heard it from a person that overheard another person talking about it," why not this?
Hearsay was considered quality evidence by people impeaching Trump.
This is not a problem. We have been told the myocarditis caused by getting COVID is much worse and nobody who gets the vaccine gets COVID, right? Tradeoffs. That's what libertarianism is all about.
Trump Told Staff To Delete Footage of Boxes Being Hidden
If you think this is about classified docs you aren't gonna make it.
I wonder why the "defund the police" crowd never wants to defund the FBI, which circled the wagons around Biden when evidence of corruption and child abuse came out.
Odd. Not like the FBI has no history of violating peoples' constitutional or civil rights.
Maybe because the "defund the police" crowd has a gripe with local law enforcement, as in the people who abuse themselves, their families and their friends, while there's a good chance they can go through their entire lives without ever meeting an FBI agent?
Just a thought.
I've had more unpleasant encounters with law enforcement than I care to count, yet only one interaction with an FBI agent who interviewed me about a coworker getting a security clearance.
Which, by the way, is a pretty big deal. They take security and classified information very seriously. Believe it or not, but they prosecute people who mishandle the stuff.
You mean like using Bleach bit to wipe servers containing information under subpoena?
No. Not like that at all.
FBI agents don’t do clearance interviews. It is DSS investigators. Dumbass.
You can tell by the badge they are legally required to show you at the start of the interview.
Read up on the process since you have made this mistake so many times.
https://www.restonnow.com/2014/04/07/the-security-clearance-interview-process/
"A federal judge blocked a new Mississippi law that would set criminal penalties for some people who help others with absentee voting," reports the A.P. U.S. District Judge Henry Wingate said Mississippi can't enforce the law during this year's elections, as it violates the federal Voting Rights Act.
What do you actually think is going on here?
Democrats handholding mentally deficient elders with no intention of voting and not IDEA what is going on with their vote taking their ballots and filling them out then submitting them.
If you dont understand that THIS is what's going on you're not gonna make it.
Democrats handholding mentally deficient elders with no intention of voting and not IDEA what is going on with their vote taking their ballots and filling them out then submitting them.
Who fills it out for joe?
"Dr." Jill.
What do you actually think is going on here?
That the law violates the federal Voting Rights Act.
From the linked article:
So the federal Voting Rights Act (mostly) gave the power to the individual to decide who should help him/her fill out the ballot.
But the Mississippi law took a lot of that power away, and dictated that the individual could only choose a person from a list determined by the state.
Democrats handholding mentally deficient elders with no intention of voting and not IDEA what is going on with their vote taking their ballots and filling them out then submitting them.
If that is your paranoid fear, then the solution to that, that is consistent with the Voting Rights Act (and consistent with individual rights), is for each individual, in the form of a living will or other sort of legal directive, to designate the individual(s) that they wish to assist them with voting and other legal matters.
The solution is not to pass something like the Mississippi law which limits the voting rights of everyone based on largely unjustified paranoid fears.
If that is your paranoid fear
It is what happens.
The solution is not to pass something like the Mississippi law which limits the voting rights of everyone based on largely unjustified paranoid fears.
it should be MUCH harder to vote than it is now. Much harder.
Let's go with at LEAST as hard as it is to get a gun. Because voting is much more dangerous and causes way more harm to society.
it should be MUCH harder to vote than it is now. Much harder.
I disagree. Every adult citizen of legal age should have the legal right to vote.
History has shown that when the state tries to limit who has the right to vote, it will rig the rules to try to generate the outcome that it desires, so that voting becomes a sham exercise perpetuating the status quo.
But why don't you describe for us what you think the rules should be for who gets to vote.
It really is interesting, that so many of you who proudly wear your tinfoil paranoia hats, don't seem to view the state power associated with voting through the lens of paranoia.
While we elect our leaders via the process of voting, governments also try to manipulate the vote to try to influence the outcome. They do that with gerrymandering, by choosing the districts so as to try to generate a 'guaranteed' result in particular districts. Before laws like the Voting Rights Act, they had poll taxes and literacy tests and 'grandfather clauses' that would deliberately exclude Black voters from voting so as to maintain White majorities. The Electoral College itself is a manipulation of the vote, in a sense, to produce results not based on the direct vote but based on a distorted state by state result, which is itself rigged by Congress by the Apportionment Act artificially capping the size of the House of Representatives.
So this Mississippi law taking choice away from the individual voter in deciding who can assist the voter in filling out and mailing the ballot is just one more niggling way that the state is trying to manipulate the process to try to generate a result that it believes will be more favorable to those currently in charge.
Instead of looking at the issue in terms of Team Red vs. Team Blue, why not look at the issue in terms of the Powerful vs. the Powerless? The state is the institution here that has the power, and the voters are the powerless ones who are trying to exert power with their vote. Don't let the powerful trample all over the powerless by buying into their tribalistic nonsense.
As with all good things (or things with value), voting is at its best when it's limited.
The reason is simple: it's better to not need the state. Voting unavoidably involves the state.
The state is the institution here that has the power, and the voters are the powerless ones who are trying to exert power with their vote.
State agents are driving around with a bear in the trunk of their car and the voters are the ones who get mauled when the bear gets released at the polling site.
“Former Donald Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani has admitted to making false statements regarding election workers the former president claimed had tampered with ballots in the 2020 presidential election count in Georgia.”
https://www.newsweek.com/rudy-giuliani-election-workers-georgia-lawsuit-1815422
I hope those two election workers take Giuliani to the cleaners.
It is one thing to sling mud against politicians. That is just how politics works.
It is another thing to make these horrible accusations against election workers, many of whom are not well paid, many of whom are completely volunteers and don't receive any pay at all. They don't deserve that type of abuse.
Well said.
If I understand correctly, Giuliani is broke, so taking him to cleaners wouldn’t be profitable. Too bad.
Fatass Donnie stiffed Rudy (among thousands of others).
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
What are you and Jeff arguing here? Your article is about statements he made to media, not to courts. So you want to extend this to democrats and Fauci too? Did you read the article Mike?
Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni has transformed the public perception of herself from far-right menace to "reliable Western partner" and "valued member of the international community,"
She sold out. They made her an offer she couldn't refuse. The only thing I dont understand is how did they get to her? There's no more Epstein Island. Or is there?
I’ve heard rumors that there are several similar islands. Nothing to substantiate though.
“Isn’t it better if there are no documents?”
Oh now now, you know the standard.
If any government official, or any bureaucrat, or any Democrat, makes any sort of veiled statement, it should be interpreted in the worst possible light as a direct threat.
But if Trump makes a vague veiled statement, it is just Trump being Trump. Nothing really can be said about it one way or another. Old news. Fake news! He’s trolling. He’s playing 9-D chess. He’s pwning the libs. But it is in no way evidence of anything sinister at all. Trump means well. He is like the American Pope: he is infallible because he loves America so much. He is incapable of doing anything wrong.
Oh yeah? Say something Biden did wrong. Not fast enough! Not long enough! You didn't say that yesterday! Doesn't count! You can't say anything bad about Biden! Stop saying bad things about Biden, you're interrupting me saying you can't say bad things about Biden! Leftist! You're a leftist!
/you know who...
It is like what my Trump-loving relative said: she implicitly trusts Trump because of his love of America.
I expect him to be held to the same standard that Hillary was held to. Both were private citizens running for office.
Regardless of whatever legal process occurs or does not occur, it doesn't stop you from declaring that what Trump did was wrong in taking classified documents from the White House when he wasn't supposed to do so.
How could he know what he did was wrong unless a Democrat got busted for it first?
That gives him Qualified Immunity.
Joe had stacks of boxes next to his corvette. No big deal?
Navy V. Egan
Again, SCOTUS precedent =/= right vs. wrong
Were Trump's actions right, or wrong?
As the elected president, yes.
There is a massive double standard for the chief executive in this country because classification are his domain.
After thinking about it, the people most likely to defend Trump with the "Democrats did it first!" defense are also most likely to dismiss the elimination of QI because it isn't a silver bullet that fixes everything. Hmmm.....
I get it. You support the politicization of laws. It is fine if one set of rules is only applied in one direction.
I like how you're pissed off people want equal application of the law.
I don't think a respectable prosecutor would bring charges on that, personally.
Whether a prosecutor would prosecute a case, is different than whether the action is right or wrong.
So, is what Trump did right, or wrong?
Dude, Trump could murder someone in broad daylight and his defenders would say "On yeah, what about Mary Mahoney and Vince Foster, huh? What about Don Henry and Kevin Ives? What about Ron Brown and Seth Rich? Can't charge Trump unless they charge the Clintons too!"
If Trump murdered someone on Fifth Avenue, the twin defenses would be:
1. BUT WHAT ABOUT VINCE FOSTER? and:
2. He did it because he loves America so much
3. The bitch had it coming.
Trump didn’t murder anyone dumbfuck.
BUT…BUT…HIZ DOCUMENTZ!!!!
Apparently it was not wrong. He should fundraise off of this. You know, like the new baseline for this crime did and has.
Okay then, thanks for your honest answer. Your standard of right vs. wrong is evidently determined by Hillary's standard of ethics.
No. The Left argued it was nothing and I concede their point in that argument. Just as under her husband they argued personal character meant nothing in terms of being a President and, hey, I decided to agree as well.
Guess they're hella persuasive.
Besides being a liar, Jeffy’s also a hypocrite.
https://twitter.com/lyndseyfifield/status/1684640582247788545
@PennSwimDive
told this sexual assault survivor she needed psychological services to help her get comfortable undressing in front of a man (and having him undress in front of her and her teammates).
The same Dems doing this cover for Clinton being an Epstein client and Biden molesting his daughter.
They, who want few humans to save the Earth from climate change, are also pushing for reassignment surgeries that render the victims sterile.
Tell me more about Trump not filling out the proper paperwork to declassify documents when too much is classified anyway.
While I think a survivor of sexual assault should have therapy or whatever to make peace and move on from their horrible experience, I don’t think this is the right conclusion to make in deciding to actually do it.
https://twitter.com/StaticPunished2/status/1684935001878769664?t=0vOSuoAAYl3jKaS2LL6pmw&s=19
“Deep State”
“Shadow Government”
It’s worse than that.
Your government and it’s bureaucracies are ran by exceptionally mid, underfucked pick me girls on massive amounts of adderall and SSRI’s.
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Imagine the ones they don’t let in front of a camera.
After that Matt Damon looking luggage thief was paraded around, I don't think they prevent anyone from being front and center.
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1684675754800336896?t=9m_8pstrYK2V7e1NAouQJg&s=19
Once again the Senate rejected a proposal to establish a lead Inspector General to oversee Ukraine spending and enhance legislative oversight. This wasn't some "isolationist" measure: it was introduced by hardcore GOP hawks Wicker and Kennedy. But the Dems still all voted it down
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Biden is paying back his benefactors. With our money.
As usual.
He got the perks. We get the bills.
""Biden is paying back his benefactors. With our money.""
Politics 101?
LOL, the last thing the Dems want is transparency on this. The center-right will claim they want it, and then shrug their shoulders and say, "Oh well, what can you do" when the Dems continue to hide where the money is going. Which means they don't actually want transparency, they're just peacocking about their supposed "principles" again to make themselves feel better for being the Dems' rentboys.
Just when you think this vile, loathsome, cretinous administration can't sink even lower than it already is, we now find out that they're refusing to grant even one single Secret Service protective agent to Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
For its entire existence the Secret Service has been one of the most non-partisan agencies of the federal government, and this sort of act is unprecedented for a candidate with the level of support that RFK has. Even the viable opposition party candidates are traditionally granted some protection.
Get that ball rolling forward on impeaching the Scumbag-in-Chieg immediately, Mister Speaker.
They won't give any to Joe's ignored but real grandchild either.
Killmonger was right.
Whoa there, slow down fella. Some of us were under no delusions that this administration could not sink lower.
This overbroad police 'seize it all' approach from the cops must change.
That's part of the process punishment though.
Stanford University's Danielle V. Handel and Eric A. Hanushek looked at the impact of school spending on student educational outcomes, including test stores.
Character assassination imminent.
"Whistleblower tells Congress the US is concealing ‘multi-decade’ program that captures UFOs"
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"WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. is concealing a longstanding program that retrieves and reverse engineers unidentified flying objects, a former Air Force intelligence officer testified Wednesday to Congress. The Pentagon has denied his claims..."
https://apnews.com/article/ufos-uaps-congress-whistleblower-spy-aliens-ba8a8cfba353d7b9de29c3d906a69ba7
I think they're still experimenting with hallucinogens.
If true, Elon Musk is the Tony Stark of the space race(s).
Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni has transformed the public perception of herself from far-right menace to "reliable Western partner" and "valued member of the international community," notes David Broder at The New York Times.
Either she has fallen into line or the narrative created on her was false to begin with.
Remember when AOC was a progressive firebrand, speaking truth to power?
Before people say "but Biden/Hillary/Whoever did the same thing", no they did not. This is new. And this is damning.
Trump and his aides of course should get their day in court, but these are serious acts of deliberately objecting justice and no amount of "but they did it too!" can excuse it.
This is like Nixon deleting footage of him deleting eighteen minutes of tape.
True. Hillary did exponentially worse.
Server and phones were under subpoena. Server was wiped and EVERY phone was smashed with a hammer.
That did NOT qualify as obstruction or even non-cooperation.
I'm not playing this "We're too good for THAT type of thing" game any more. The Left feel no shame and this is the ethos they have brought to the political arena.
Fine. Indict her too. Who gives a shit?
Indict them all if they're criminals.
No. The FBI said no respectable prosecutor would do so. So, same holds for Trump. Ditto Biden.
Just declassify everything.
"Indict them all if they’re criminals."
No, because that would mean indicting Trump, and the whole point of the "They did it first!" defense is to NOT indict Trump. Therefore to protect Trump everyone gets a pass.
I don't know why you actually think that. I'm perfectly fine with throwing Trump in jail over it as long as the same thing happens to Hillary.
I'm impressed. Though I don't think that's the consensus.
Because you're a fucking moron. The argument has always been equal application retard.
Hillary had protection within the FBI.
Strozk changed the wording in the report to protect Hillary from prosecution.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/363194-former-fbi-agent-changed-comeys-language-of-clinton-email-use-to/#:~:text=One%20source%20told%20the%20news%20outlet%20that%20electronic,be%20prosecuted%20under%20federal%20law%20for%20%E2%80%9Cgross%20negligence.%E2%80%9D
Is that not a crime?
Depends on who does it.
And for whom.
And to whom.
Favored treatment isn't necessarily unlawful. Or you could try to make a case for obstruction. Good luck with that.
He was asked about making this change in a congressional hearing and he kept denying it. After it was pointed out the changes were made under his login, he finally admitted it. When ask why he did it, IIRC, he said she could have been indicted if he didn't.
Most people don't know that the Clinton's connection to the FBI and CIA go back to Bill's days as governor.
So Peter Strzok committed perjury, just like Kevin Clinesmith did.
Yeah, but the DOJ rarely will prosecute an FBI agent.
The FBI agent that fabricated the DNS data that was used as one of the Russian collusion points during a campaign was simply fired. That's all. That's a federal agent interfering with the election. That's more of a collusion with the Clinton camp than the Russians colluding with Trump by paying to boost some memes.
It's 2023. It's only a crime when the other side does it.
But in the end, nothing Hillary did justifies Trump doing the same or worse. I don't think either should be jailed for what they did. An official reprimand at best. But regardless, what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
Hillary wasn't indicted. Too late to give Trump the Goose/Gander treatment.
Fuck off and die, TDS-addled pile of shit.
Love to see people who would have raised hell about Hillary being indicted while she ran for President actually not caring if she gets indicted now that she's no longer useful to them.
Lol
Stuff your TDS up your ass and then fuck off and die, slimy pile of shit.
Before people say “but Biden/Hillary/Whoever did the same thing”, no they did not. This is new. And this is damning.
LOL, seriously? Her fucking CSA went on reddit to ask people how to wipe her server clean because he didn't know how.
He was asking how to remove her email address from an archived cache of emails, actually. And in the Reddit thread, some of the replies were, "You know doing that would be a huge issue if there's any kind of discovery."
This is like Nixon deleting footage of him deleting eighteen minutes of tape.
Except the 18 min. were, and are, missing whereas allegedly/supposedly, by their own narrative and in contradiction to yours, neither the underlying evidence nor the meta evidence in Trump's case were destroyed.
Look ma! no whataboutism or even stepping outside your own narrative!
You're right Ditto, your shit don't stink!
I didn't allege my shit doesn't stink. You did. Are you admitting guilt as part of a conspiracy to remove the stink from my shit?
So the proposed Ohio constitutional amendment would guarantee a "right to reproductive freedom" with "reasonable restrictions". How is that not so unconscionably vague as to mean virtually anything? What does "reproductive freedom" actually cover? What are reasonable restrictions? Most of the world bans abortion after 20 weeks, would that define a reasonable restriction?
1) We should hope the 60% threshold passes. A simple majority makes zero sense for amending a constitution.
2) If it does not, just run ads showing the "Reasonable restrictions" that are active in CA et al.
It is an open door to judicial activist judge. It is the exact type of language that the Israeli Supreme Court is applying to laws they do not like. It is not an objective, legal standard.
Anytime the word "reasonable" is used in legislation, it should be a big fat red flag for everyone.
A traitorous criminal and yet millions of idiots still proclaim him as their savior.
...but enough about Biden.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1684631400358543360
Congrats to Sam Bankman-Fried -- the Dem Party's second-largest donor (behind George Soros) -- on having his campaign finance fraud charges dropped by the Biden DOJ.
Their hilarious claim is that they just couldn't proceed because the big, powerful Bahamas wouldn't let them.
...The US is famous for heeding the commands and wishes of small and powerless governments like the Bahamas. So once the Bahamians said they didn't want DOJ proceeding with this campaign finance charge because it wasn't part of the extradition, the US had no choice but to obey.
Amazing what money can buy nowadays.
"a fundamental right to reproductive freedom" with "reasonable limits."
Who were the nazis that stuck in the "reasonable limits" rider?
reproductive freedom
Oa. Mitchell: I mean, I really can’t think of anything worse, as a symbol, than a skull.
Oa. “Hans” Webb: [contemplates] An… unborn fetus’s skull.
Oa. Mitchell: Yeah, and if we were fighting an army marching under the banner of an unborn fetus’s skull I’d be a lot less worried, Hans.
ArbeitTotes Kinder macht frei.To really dampen the mood: ENB has thrown up, analogously, evidence of “delousing chambers” with the bodies removed in support of her cause.
• “In May, Mastodon server Kolektiva.social was compromised when one of the server’s admins had their home raided
So… the future of the internet can all come crashing down because of an FBI raid on someone’s basement?
Or they freeze your bank account and your cloud service provider shuts you down for not paying.
I tried to like Mastodon. The concept is cool. The users were just too dumb and boring.
"no reasonable prosecutor" would bring charges if a presidential candidate actually deleted subpoenaed data from a server.
But talking about it but not doing it? I suppose that is much more serious.
Completely aside from the indictments of a maintenance worker and an aid for not actually taking part in a crime that no reasonable prosecutor would pursue, has Hallie Biden been charged with anything?
accusing minorities of undermining the triad of God, nation and family, with dire practical consequences for migrants
At first skimming, I assumed this was a bit of lost in translation. Then I realized it was an English speaker at the NYT.
So, NYT acknowledged, does the conflation of “minorities” and “migrants” strike anyone else as a linguistic foul? As in, am I the only one who considers the term “minorities”, which connotes citizens and/or protected classes, as distinct from migrants which connotes “S. American migrant workers” and/or “Russian foreign nationals”?
Seems like an extension or broadening of the ‘Mexican is a race/ethnicity’ fallacy.
I think the word you are grasping for is "propaganda".
Yeah, not grasping. I'm fairly certain it's propaganda, the usual conflation of 'migrant' for 'immigrant' for 'illegal immigrant' is a pretty blatant tell. I'm just trying to be clear as to how far things have rotted and whether other people actually do (or fail to fully) consider 'minority' and 'migrant' similarly. Does 'minority' (already) popularly mean "black, female, Asian, Hindu, and student visa holders" to people?
Look, we just got more confirmation that our president is actually on the take.
But that isn't interesting or worthy of pursuit.
We also just got confirmation that the sweetheart deal that junior got was both unconstitutional and likely intended to shield him from prosecution for actual crimes that lead to other co-conspirators.
And then the next day Trump gets indicted for a process crime that didn't actually happen?
Well, clearly we need to cover the more important story to the exclusion of all else.
IMO, the story has overplayed the hand and “The Boss” is the tell.
If they can strong arm someone like Flynn over non-crimes and hide behind “We don’t know who the ‘The Big Guy’ is.”, then strong arming a maintenance worker named Oliveira into testifying as to who “The Boss” is them juking some poor, hispanic maintenance worker while attempting a lay up.
""Well, clearly we need to cover the more important story to the exclusion of all else.""
UFOs have been a go to over the decades.
I have an interesting theory with Roswell. It really was a balloon. Not the usual weather balloon, but one specifically used to monitor radiation from the atomic bomb tests. These were sent up at particular intervals, and locations to see how far the radiation would travel. This balloon would be highly classified at the time as it was part of the atomic program.
When the gov tried to claim it was a weather balloon to cover for what it really was and people didn't believe it, someone said UFO and the gov said, yeah let's go with that as a cover knowing the more the gov denied it the more people would believe it.
I'm one of the geeks that ordered a video series from, I think Time/Life, called America's Atomic Bombs Tests. The videos are very dry dept of energy, dept of defense stuff that was declassified. Some really cool footage of tests. The videos discussed the use of the balloons for that purpose. Maybe one day I'll go back to the vids to see if I can match a test to the date of the Roswell incident.
yeah let’s go with that as a cover knowing the more the gov denied it the more people would believe it
Kritschgau? Is that you?
Well, clearly we need to cover the more important story to the exclusion of all else.
You do know that ENB discussed the Hunter Biden sweetheart deal just yesterday, don't you?
It was just a blog to read with coffee
Trump was bad but everyone else is worse. Deflect, deflect, deflect....
The truth is everyone else is bad but Trump is worse. He's not only morally decrepit, he's incompetently morally decrepit.
The only thing he did for his MAGA crowd was get the supreme court majority to coddle the religious right. One day the MAGAs will rue that when the big-business sympaticos on the new SJC sell their ass to benefit their private-plane amigos.
he’s incompetently morally decrepit.
Ok, so we're backing off the 11-D-Chess-Trump-making-backroom-deals-with-Russian-NKVD-to-overturn-the-2016-election Trump.
So Flynn actually was guilty of Trump's incompetence!?! It all makes sense now!
That is hilarious.... deflection....
Obama ordered the FBI and CIA to spy on the Trump campaign and ordered the FBI to frame Flynn. That alone is worse than anything any other president is even accused of.
Biden is literally on the take. Not "trading on the family name. Our president has rather openly accepted bribes. Not the "explain away" kind like Netflix giving 60 million to Obama, or like dozens of foreign countries giving half a billion to the Clinton foundation.... no, like getting paid directly by foreign interests to use his office for their benefit. Every step is documented with Burisma, from the payee, to the payoff, to the bagmen, to the guy who got strong armed to the guy who got fired. We apparently have testimony and evidence from every single one of those.
But sure... things that probably aren't even crimes that were brought up by prosecutors who explicitly said they were going to prosecute a person, rather than a crime... yeah, those are worse.
No rational person could possibly believe that. You might hate Trump, you might celebrate any hardship visited upon him... but you don't have a rational basis to believe any of the rest of that.
Very good points!
The anti-Trumpers don't care if he is being treated unfavorable compared to anyone else.
That why points about unfairness fall on deaf ears.
Impeachment is coming soon....when Speaker McCarthy and Team R find their balls and their spines.
I don't think there will be an impeachment unless more Rs are added to the House. Biden will probably be out of the office one way or another by then.
So it should be easy to bring a tax evasion prosecution of Joe and Dr. Jill. But I'm not going to hold my breath.
""The truth is everyone else is bad but Trump is worse.""
So we ignore bad and only go after worse when it's a political enemy?
""The only thing he did for his MAGA crowd was get the supreme court majority to coddle the religious right.""
While I am no friend of the religious right (I remember the 80s), democrats seem to have no problem with their team doing the same thing to coddle the progressive left. They will even stack the court to the outcome they want if they could.
also.... Trump as a representative of the religious right is laughable.
The dude is only loosely aligned with republicans. He is a centrist populist who named establishment republican judges to the court (not conservative constitutional scholars). He is to the left of the democrat party on most social issues - well, at least he was before they went insane the last 3 years.
But as to his so-con bona fides: "Two Corinthians".
Nobody on the religious right believes he is one of them for a second.
They like that he’s largely sympathetic as opposed to openly persecutorial
(I remember the 80s)
If the 90s, 00s, 10s, and 20s are any indication, much of the “Moral Majority” was really just people claiming to be Christian so that the Nazis would leave them alone once they told them where the Jews were hiding.
The Clintons and Gores were Baptists (lapsed or born again or whatever) and the Bidens are Catholic.
(lapsed or born again or converted or whatever)
You’re a fvckin idiot and nobody buys what you’re selling
Isn't classified docs supposed to be hidden?
(ducks)
Full employment act for lawyers!
Hillary had staff smash hard drives, cell phones and wipe her illegal private server that was hacked and contained classified documents. No charges. Please explain the difference?
Trump is alleged to have XXX. What we do know is they indicted and charged an employee,threatened him with a long prison sentence, and will pressure him to say exactly what they want him to say because of that. Pretty common strategy when you can’t get someone the legal way. Let's remember, they have tried to frame Trump multiple times before, starting with Russian collusion. One also wonder seeing Hillary did exactly what she alleged Trump to have done, why she wasn't charge with election interference? You know what they impeached Trump for!
GOSH! A Christian National Socialist ideologically and financially tied to Germany's 21st Century revival of 1939 girl-bullying Positive Christian National Socialism is implicated in the Espionage Act. What next? The Lootveeg fon Meeses Institute funded by the AfD infiltrates America's Libertarian Party from the racial collectivist swamps of George Wallace Beatles-album-burning Alabama? Stay tuned...
So according to ENB, Ohio may be waking up and noticing the same situation that led 2/3 of Irish voters to repeal the Comstockist amendment enslaving and killing women on the Emerald Isle? It's about time! With Trumpanzees on the Supreme Court the 9th, 13th, 14th, 15th and 19th Amendments are liable to further nullification.
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