Montana Sets Itself Up for First Amendment Lawsuits With TikTok Ban
Plus: Americans are increasingly changing religions, court pauses rejection of "free" preventative care mandate, and more...

Montana Republican Gov. Greg Gianforte has signed a highly unconstitutional statewide ban on TikTok. The measure prohibits app stores from offering TikTok for download to the phones of Montana residents and also says flatly that "Tiktok may not operate within the territorial jurisdiction of Montana."
Any entity that violates the ban can be fined $10,000 for each violation and "an additional $10,000 each day thereafter that the violation continues" (but penalties "do not apply to users of tiktok," the law states).
To protect Montanans' personal and private data from the Chinese Communist Party, I have banned TikTok in Montana.
— Governor Greg Gianforte (@GovGianforte) May 17, 2023
The ban—S.B. 419—was first approved back in April by Montana's Legislature—which managed to spell the app's name wrong in the bill's short title ("Ban tik-tok in Montana"), if that tells you anything about the level of ignorance at play here.
An entity—defined only as "a mobile application store or tiktok"—violates the ban anytime "the operation of tiktok by the company or users" occurs in Montana. That language suggests TikTok or app stores may be liable if people use virtual private networks or other means to skirt the state's ban. However, the law also states that "it is an affirmative defense…if the violating entity could not have reasonably known that the violation occurred within the territorial jurisdiction of Montana."
Nonetheless, the law may manage to be unconstitutional in multiple ways.
Not only does it violate the First Amendment rights of TikTok users, the company itself, and app stores that might want to offer it but it's also "a clear bill of attainder, which is explicitly barred by the Constitution," suggests Techdirt's Mike Masnick. (Bills of attainder single out a person or entity for punishment without court proceedings.)
In a seeming attempt to address the bill-of-attainder concerns, Gianforte initially sent the bill back to the legislature with amended language that didn't single out TikTok.
Of course, Gianforte's proposed changes ranged "from 'missing the point' to 'profoundly idiotic,'" suggested First Amendment lawyer Ari Cohn. "The naming of TikTok was not [the] ultimate infirmity of the bill—the problem was that the bill took a sledgehammer to speech in order to kill a (potentially imaginary) fly. A bill that effectively does the same thing (just now potentially to other platforms too!) does nothing to address the First Amendment concerns."
Gianforte's amended version also ran the risk of banning most, if not all, social media platforms from operating in Montana, noted Cohn:
Things get especially stupid when you look at what actions will sweep a platform under the bill's blanket ban:
(1) A social media application may not operate within the territorial jurisdiction of Montana if the social media application allows:
(a) the collection of personal information or data; and
(b) the personal information or data to be provided to a foreign adversary [N.B. as defined by federal law] or a person or entity located within a country designated as a foreign adversary.
"Personal information or data" can include things as simple as someone's first or last name, contact information, or username—that's how it's defined in the federal Children's Online Privacy Protection Act, for instance. "In other words, the types of information that accompany virtually every piece of content posted on social media," wrote Cohn.
If a platform allows that kind of information to be provided to any foreign adversary or a person or entity located within a foreign adversary, it is banned from Montana.
Do you know who might be persons located within a country designated as a foreign adversary? Users. Users who are provided the kinds of "personal information" that are inherent in the very concept of social media.
So, effectively, the bill would ban any social media company that allows any user in China, Russia, Iran, or Cuba to see content from a Montana user (and this is a generous reading, nothing in the bill seems to require that the data/information shared be from a Montana resident). On top of it, each time a user from one of those countries accesses content, platforms would be subject to a $10,000 fine.
Do you know which platforms allow people in those countries to access content posted in the United States? All of them.
The final version of the TikTok law that Gianforte signed on Wednesday does not contain his amended language.
Separately, Gianforte directed Montana's chief information officer to ban all apps that provide personal information to foreign adversaries from state devices. The directive says "no executive agency, board, commission, or other executive branch entity, official, or employee of the State of Montana shall download or access social media applications that provide personal information or data to foreign adversaries on government-issued devices or while connected to a state network," according to a statement from Gianforte. "Additionally, any third-party firms conducting business for or on behalf of the state of Montana shall not use these applications."
The TikTok ban is slated to take effect January 1, 2024. But it will certainly face legal challenges before then.
The ban is "a blatant violation of the First Amendment," said the Electronic Frontier Foundation.
"The government cannot impose a total ban on a communications platform like TikTok unless it is necessary to prevent extremely serious, immediate harm to national security," noted the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) in a statement. "But there's no public evidence of harm that would meet the high bar set by the U.S. and Montana Constitutions, and a total ban would not be the only option for addressing such harm if it did exist."
"With this ban, Governor Gianforte and the Montana legislature have trampled on the free speech of hundreds of thousands of Montanans who use the app to express themselves, gather information, and run their small business in the name of anti-Chinese sentiment," said Keegan Medrano, policy director at the ACLU of Montana.
"It's not good that Gianforte signed an obviously unconstitutional law. But it *is* good that this will be a litmus test," tweeted Cohn. "The hapless MT govt will not be able to assert any constitutional justification, and the law will be struck down--perhaps disincentivizing others from trying."
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Americans are increasingly changing religions. A new survey from the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) finds a growing share of Americans identify with a different religion than the religion with which they were raised or previously identified. Nearly a quarter of those surveyed (24 percent) said they had changed religious traditions or denominations, up from 16 percent in 2021.
"People who are currently members of other non-Christian religions (38%) or religiously unaffiliated (37%) are the most likely to say that they were previously a follower or practitioner of a different religious tradition, followed by about one in four other Protestants of color (28%), white evangelical Protestants (25%), and Hispanic Protestants (24%)," noted the PRRI. "In addition, 22% each of other Christians, white mainline/non-evangelical Protestants, and Latter-day Saints also say they were previously a practitioner or follower of a different religious tradition or denomination. Jewish Americans (15%), Black Protestants (15%), Hispanic Catholics (11%) and white Catholics (10%) are the least likely to say they were previously a follower or practitioner of a different religious tradition."
One of the main reasons given for switching was dissatisfaction with their former religion's negative stance on LGBT issues. This was cited by around 30 percent of those who had switched religions. Twenty-seven percent said "they were disillusioned by scandals involving leaders in their former religion," noted the PRRI, while "18% point to a traumatic event in their lives, and 17% say their church became too focused on politics."
See the whole survey for a lot of broader findings about religion and church attendance in America.
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Court pauses rejection of "free" preventative care mandate. "A federal appeals court on Monday froze a lower court decision that scrapped the Affordable Care Act's requirement that employers fully cover the cost of specified preventive health care services," reported Axios. More:
The big picture: The New Orleans-based U.S. 5th Circuit Court of Appeals temporarily blocked U.S. District Court Judge Reed O'Connor's ruling that put in jeopardy coverage for certain cancer screenings, behavioral counseling, HIV prevention and other services recommended by the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force.
- About six in 10 people with private health insurance, or roughly 100 million, use ACA-covered preventive health services each year, per KFF.
Details: The conservative-leaning 5th Circuit issued an order granting an administrative stay while it reviews the case.
- The Justice Department had appealed O'Connor's March decision, kicking off a legal process that could wind up at the Supreme Court.
What this means: At least for now, no-cost coverage for preventive services is still required under law.
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• Can governments increase birthrates? Should they?
• New guidance from the U.S. Department of Education says "teachers, school administrators, and other school employees may not encourage or discourage private prayer or other religious activity."
• "Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed bills Wednesday that ban gender-affirming care for minors, target drag shows, restrict discussion of personal pronouns in schools and force people to use certain bathrooms," reported the Associated Press.
• It's OK to ignore many food expiration dates.
• A federal court has (for now) rejected New Jersey's restrictions on concealed carry.
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Can governments increase birthrates? Should they?
Governments f you in the a so there's no danger of that.
Naked zooming like ENB did a few days ago will increase the birth rates.
Not if it's ENB doing it
Did she claim to do that as well as the porn actress writer?
Believe article said both.
That article was written by an actual porn actress, if I’m not mistaken. It was not ENB that was naked.
Really nothing left to do now in Montana but increase the birth rate.
Yes there's nothing here in the 4th largest state land wise.
Sorry, just a stupid joke. I actually love Montana.
Ass sex can produce offspring!
#newbiology
It's how we got Sqrlsy and Mike.
Especially if one misses the target.
People keep trying anyway.
You can say "fuçk" and "ass" in the Comments, Fist.
Just no women making sandwich jokes.
Cuban sandwiches?
Cite? 🙂
Cite? 😉
Have you noticed his last few cites were to leftist posters who also didn't provide evidence?
It's a self-citing comment.
New guidance from the U.S. Department of Education says "teachers, school administrators, and other school employees may not encourage or discourage private prayer or other religious activity."
Our Lady of the Holy Castration afterschool club.
A federal court has (for now) rejected New Jersey's restrictions on concealed carry.
Go ahead. Try to carry in NJ. See what this ruling got you.
Do you feel lucky, punk?
It's OK to ignore many food expiration dates.
REASON HAS OFFICIALLY JOINED THE GREAT RESET DEPOPULATION EFFORT!
What about Tide pods?
Ackshuyslly, if food cans aren’t bloated or leaking, they are okay to open and eat, regardless of expiration date. The key is that they have to be in the proverbial “cool, dry place.”
The British found 60-year- old cans of SPAM buried in the old London bomb shelters of World War II, opened them, and the SPAM was still edible.
Furthermore, there was 2500-year-old grains found in the Pyramids of Egypt that still sprouted. This had nothing to do with any so-called Supernatural “Pyramid Power."
Again, the grains were in the “cool, dry place” of the Pyramid chambers in many feet of stone which keeps the interior a constant 59° Fahrenheit and the dryness was the result of tight sealing and Egypt’s dry climate.
And WHOOPEE! No Botulism, Tennessee and Chumley! 🙂
"The British found 60-year- old cans of SPAM buried in the old London bomb shelters of World War II, opened them, and the SPAM was still edible."
What do you mean "still" edible?
Take your spam hate and lies back to Germany Hitler.
Anyone who eats pork shoulder and/or ham but does the 9 year-old girl "Ew, gross" thing when it comes to Spam isn't to be taken seriously.
"Shh! Dear, don't cause a fuss. I'll have your SPAM. I love it! I''m having SPAM, SPAM, SPAM, SPAM, SPAM, SPAM, SPAM, Baked Beans, SPAM, SPAM, SPAM, and SPAM!"
SPAM
https://youtu.be/jrZyZn5nVks
I saw a container of Himalayan Salt that said "two million years old". The expiry date was 24 months. 🙂
To explain this, that’s most likely the date the pinkness goes out.
Also, moisture causes Salt to form crystals and clump, but you can use a salt grinder to break it back up or put some rice in your Salt shaker to break it up,
Iodine diminishes over time in Iodized Salt, but you really don’t need Iodized Salt if you eat right or take supplements. Ionizing Salt was an old FDR New Deal social engineering/make-work scheme, so it’s an antique. Besides, Iodized Salt tastes like motor oil on food. *Yeeech!*
But basically, NaCl is NaCl and kills the microbes that cause food poisoning and thus cannot expire:
Does Salt Expire—and How Do You Know if Your Salt Has Gone Bad?https://www.rd.com/article/does-salt-expire/
Correction: “Iodizing”, not “Ionizing.”. No telling what Ionizing does to Salt. That might give you the Richard Pryor Milk-And-Cookie Effect. ????
Dissolving the salt ionizes it. Crystallized salt is un-ionized.
Hmmm, so no Salt shaker that goes "Boom". That's good to know. Much obliged. Albeit, too much Salt in a human can make the heart go "Boom!"
Also, enough salt in water will make an automobile float in The Great Salt Lake until it turns to rust.
I don't think it's even that. It's just that FDA regs require some expiration date on any food product.
Ugh. You’re a foodie too? Makes sense. Nobody needs to make sure that everyone knows what they’re all about more than foodies and atheists.
Less a foodie and more a Survivalist/Pepper and a bachelor homemaker and an Atheist, so I have a curious layperson’s knowledge of the subject.
And Survivalism/Prepping is more compatible with Atheism than anything, since there’s no Supernatural that provides for us and “considers the lillies” and the “beasts of the field.” Just us.
A Survivalist/Pepper? How does that compare to a Survivalist/Salt? Is it ground black pepper?
LOL! Sorry, I meant Survivalist/Prepper...though I have grown some great banana and cayenne peppers and have used pepper spray. 🙂
The can aged spam should be worth more, because it is rare spam.
Boar's Head should try making that. It would be a hit with Hipster fallout shelters! 🙂
"Grass roots" Fix the Court group that spends its time calling for court reform freaks out after sending its donor list to Washington examiner. Showing all its donations come from a few liberal dark money groups.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/courts/supreme-court-dark-money-group-leaked-fix-court-clarence-thomas
I wonder what news stories Reason deliberately ignored because they're a bunch of leftist leftists.
I'm sure I'll find out soon enough.
Here’s one. Kamala Harris went and opened her mouth in public again:
https://www.foxnews.com/media/kamala-harris-grilled-after-claiming-conservatives-banning-womens-history-classes-mind-blender
That's absurd. When you decline to say a word of criticism against a group, isn't that proof that you think they are the greatest?
What people don't say says much more than what they do say.
Often that is the case, though. A lot of the complaints about Reason not covering this or that are silly I agree. But I'd also agree with others that there are some glaring examples where they seem to shy away from things that should be of great interest to libertarians.
But I’d also agree with others that there are some glaring examples where they seem to shy away from things that should be of great interest to libertarians.
Sure. What I object to is when people explain why decisions they disagree with were made.
Yes, stated vs. revealed preferences is a thing, even for libertarians or people wearing libertarian skin suits.
I've never seen you denounce the Klan. Not only does that mean you think they're the greatest, but it means you're a member as well. Anything you say that disagrees with what you didn't say is a lie.
"Not only does that mean you think they’re the greatest, but it means you’re a member as well."
Wait. I'm having trouble determining what is sarcasm here. I thought you were disagreeing with this logic. I am confused as to what your actual position is here.
Yeah. Sure. Okay. Kay. Kay...
Since you have often taken me to task for attributing positions to you that you did not hold, is it wrong for me to seek clarification?
I thought you, Sarcasmic, specifically believe that if someone doesn’t criticize a group, they must be members of that group. Is that wrong?
I am having trouble figuring out what your actual problem is here. You seem to be criticizing people for having the same standards as yourself.
*deep breath*
/serious on
It bugs me to no end when asshats like the bad girls club would say "You never said XYZ about ABC and that means...." Don't know if they say it still or not because I muted the fart stains. It seemed to pick up among others who would say "Reason doesn't cover XYZ because ABC, and now I'm going to argue against ABC." Then a bunch of people have a circle-jerk with baby oil. Then when I try to be sarcastic Poe's Law kicks in and people think I'm serious.
I'm not accusing you of anything other than being long winded.
/serious off
I highly recommend giving up on commenting on the commenters and just making comments and jokes about the topics at hand. Ignore the bullshit and say what you have to say. Or not, if this keeps you entertained.
I highly recommend him providing some citations for his accusations, because it is mostly untrue.
The reason he actually mutes people is for calling out his own hypocrisy. This is him just rationalizing why he is the real victim here.
fair enough
Serious? You feign "seriousness" to engage in more shitposting.
Notably about other commenters and not about ideas despite your protestations to the contrary. And when countered with a strong argument, you just disappear...
https://reason.com/2023/05/12/is-biden-replacing-bad-border-policy-with-worse-border-policy/?comments=true#comment-10060235
Let me reiterate my final thought in that thread for the TL;DR crowd:
"Are you beginning to see that this conversation really is about ideas and how your ridiculous shitposting derails the conversations you pollute with your fallacious nonsense?"
You use the word "fallacious" a lot. If you looked up what it meant you might embarrass yourself less. Thing is, now you won't simply because I suggested it to you and as a matter of principle you won't do anything I suggest. Ha ha. I just stopped you from learning about fallacies.
You use the word “fallacious” a lot. If you looked up what it meant you might embarrass yourself less.
Actually, I look it up all the time. I have links to a few very good sites that discuss logic, critical thinking and argumentation that I regularly visit. I have read entire books about those topics (gasp!). When I accuse someone of disingenuous argumentation, I am well prepared to defend it.
You've done a lot of reading but from what I can tell you haven't done much understanding if you say I present fallacious arguments.
*shrug*
you haven’t done much understanding if you say I present fallacious arguments
Another deflection. How droll. Perhaps you could cite one?
Switching the burden of proof: What you are doing right now.
Oh my God. You comments!!!
Switching the burden of proof: What you are doing right now.
You can't even keep the simple fallacies straight.
I linked to an example. Then there is the post at the top of this thread. I didn't switch the burden. I provided proof. If you can't refute it, then I have not failed.
"I’m not accusing you of anything other than being long winded."
To the contrary, you accused me of being on team "mean kids" because I do not criticize them enough. Which seems to be engaging in exactly what "bugs [you] to no end".
But I appreciate the candor. As near as I can tell, it isn't that you are being sarcastic. It is that you apply double standards.
To the contrary, you accused me of being on team “mean kids” because I do not criticize them enough.
Really? I did that inside the serious brackets? No. I don't think so.
For the record, here is what you said:
https://reason.com/2023/05/07/will-2024-bring-the-return-of-the-neocons/?comments=true#comment-10051286
"And the people on your team...will never get a word of criticism from you. [...] Because you’re all about the team. No principles whatsoever."
Ohhh, now I remember what you're talking about. That was me using their own tactics to see what would happen. Nothing happened.
Nothing happened.
You revealed your double standard. That happened.
No you simpleton. I tried something others do and then stopped. I cared so much about it that someone had to remind me for me to remember. And then I forgot until you brought it up again. Then you say I engage in fallacies? Seriously?
I tried something others do and then stopped
You just described a double standard. And you call me a simpleton?
Then you say I engage in fallacies? Seriously?
Sometimes you skip the fallacy and go straight to the insults, like "simpleton".
"That was me using their own tactics to see what would happen."
That seems to be agreeing with my point. When the "asshats" argue in this manner, they are to be criticized. Nevertheless you will argue in the same manner, just "to see what would happen" (whatever that means).
Doesn't this strike you as a double standard?
Think ill bookmark this thread as it shows hypocrisy, lack of self awareness, ignorance, and victim signaling all in one thread.
it shows hypocrisy, lack of self awareness, ignorance, and victim signaling all in one thread
Sarcasmic, like many of the politically naïve, seems to be under the mistaken impression that he should be measured based only on what he posts today. In fact, he has a long history of trolling, agreeing with other trolls, and general shitweaselry that I have personally witnessed over the last 5 years. He once posted that White Mike and Jeffy were "the closest people in these comments to true libertarians" while insulting everyone else and saying he would never come back. He even today refers to a group of regular posters who criticize him as "the mean girls" and announces his mutes and and unmutes as if anyone should care.
Why bother to call him out? Because he is every bit as bad as SQRSLY without the ALL CAPS and flute references. He adds to the noise.
Lol. I forgot sarc had said that.
Looking for it found this fun one.
sarcasmic 10 months ago
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It used to be that conservatives opposed personal liberty while supporting, or at least giving lip service to, economic liberty.
Because of that there was an alliance between conservatives and libertarians over economic issues. But the right has abandoned support for economic liberty while maintaining hostility towards personal liberty. That means libertarians and the conservative right have gun rights and lower taxes in common, but that’s about it.
Meanwhile the left maintains their hostility towards economic liberty while supporting, or giving lip service to, personal liberty.
That means that libertarians now have more in common with the left than with the right. Not because libertarians have drifted left. Rather its because the conservative right has abandoned support for liberty in general.
Do remember the jeff and Mike quote but can't find it saved.
Sarc isn't a Cowboys fan, he just roots against whichever team they are playing.
You leave The Cowboys out of this!
NARA admits every presidency since Reagan and large percentage of senators and reps have violated classified document rules. No explanation on why only one had the FBI raid their residence.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/every-administration-reagan-has-mishandled-classified-documents-archives-say
How many of them resisted attempts to get the documents back?
All of them retard. As part of the PRA. Are you aware the WH formed the false basis for the request to NARA asking toreturn said documents? You should as I have given you the link multiple times.
Is your argument here that NARA has never asked for records from prior presidents before?
No, his argument is that Trump is so evil that rules and norms don't apply.
No, the argument of you Trumpsuckers is that Trump is so important (for you) that rules and norms don't apply.
The norms are exactly the same as prior per NARA itself shrike. The norms are for NARA to work with ex presidents, like they were with Obama even 5 years later. Those are the norms. Not raiding a residence.
You really are a dumb one shrike.
Stop lying, you cracker cunt - though I understand your need to pretend that what Trump did was normal up to and including his resisting handing the documents back, and getting his lawyer to lie about it - did you forget that bit?
Still not shrike, no matter how many times you repeat the lie.
"Trumpsuckers, cracker cunt"
You're just one "peanuts" away.
LOL. You have multiple posts here devoid of facts.
Egan V Navy (once again) gives the president full power on classification. If he decides he wants to share a secret in conference with a foreign leader, he is allowed to. No process can override this power. If trump claimed the documents he took were declassified prior to Jan 20th, they are no longer classified. Full stop.
Again, Obama even sent an email to NARA stating his team found classified information 3 years after his presidency in a warehouse. NARA Never went to the DoJ/FBI. In fact NARA has since admitted they don't have the power to do so unless the WH directs them for a critical need for a document under PRA. The entire raid was set up under a false basis by the WH.
What are you struggling with here shrike?
The norm broken is raiding a former president's personal residence. Full stop. Why are you too stupid to realize this? His team was continuing to work with NARA and had just delivered documents a month prior.
Stop lying, cracker. Find me another instance of presidents, senators and reps with classified documents resisting attempts - including subpoenas - to get the documents returned.
Move those Goalposts, SRG. Move them real good.
"resisting attempts" now requires "subpoenas". Did you do a little googling, little SRG?
Grammar not your strong point, cracker.
Overt has excellent grammar, and stop trying to redirect from his point by playing Grammar Nazi over a well known colloquialism.
Don’t lump Overt in with JesseAz, Mother’s Lament, R Mac, and don’t look at me. He usually argues in good faith. The others always argue in bad faith.
I guess Overt still hasn't called you 'retard' enough yet, huh?
This is sarc just victimizing himself as usual. I believe he did mute Overt at one point even.
The others always argue in bad faith.
You would have to be arguing in good faith for them to be arguing in bad faith. They are just insulting you, which isn't an ad hominem, no matter how many times you claim it is.
When you're done reading about fallacious arguments you should look up what it means to argue in good faith vs arguing in bad faith.
When you’re done reading about fallacious arguments you should look up what it means to argue in good faith vs arguing in bad faith.
Which is a perfect example of arguing in bad faith, thank you for that.
The fact he is arguing against arguments he claims to have muted is truly the goodest of good faith argumentation.
I'll see your cracker and raise you a nigger and a chink.
His legal team was working with NARA. Obama still has negotiations with NARA until today and had classified documents in a warehouse in Illinois retard.
NARA can't even demand a record from an ex president without some impetus or request from the WH declaring the current administration has a need for said document. This was the false pretense and NARA admitted the current WH created it retard.
PRA doesn't require every copy of a document, just one copy of it.
Egan v Navy gives presidents sole classification authority, not NARA.
Clinton sock drawer case gives wide deference to the president on what is and is not a presidential record.
The norm has never been to raid a presidents house you fucking retard.
The norm has never been to resist returning documents and to get your lawyer to lie about it.
But you, as one of the more obvious Trumpsuckers on this forum, have to defend Trump at all turns.
Did you miss this part?
"His legal team was working with NARA. Obama still has negotiations with NARA until today and had classified documents in a warehouse in Illinois retard."
There's every indication that the documents siezed by Wray and Garland are related to Crossfire Hurricane, which were officially declassified and Trump had every right to be in possession of.
It's the FBI and the DOJ who are currently in contempt of both a presidential order declassifying them and a court order demanding their public release, by withholding them and continuing to regard them as classified.
This is especially criminal in light of the Durham Report.
OBAMA STILL HAS DOCUMENTS NOT GIVEN TO NARA.
But then again NARA agreed to work with Obama to allow him to scan the documents to send to NARA. NARA never made that offer to trump.
The NORM is to WORK WITH the president, not act as an adversary of a former president.
Again, you're too dumb to understand the basics of the case.
You calling people cracker like it’s an insult is the cherry on top of your posts.
Hahahahaha
How many even had attempts to get the documents back. Biden had documents he took when he was VP turn up six years after he left office as VP. To me that says one of two things: 1. There were no timely attempts to get the documents back. 2. If there were timely attempts to get the documents back, he didn’t cooperate when it mattered and nothing was done about his lack of cooperation.
From my understanding of all the news stories it was (1).
There is a difference in the two scenarios: Trump was ending a Presidency, which raises issues of archiving his “Presidential library”.
Note that there was a similar story for Mike Pence and Biden after their Vice Presidencies ended. They both walked off with document and nobody noticed right away.
You don't get to troll-hoard documents for the purpose of a 'presidential library'.
Trump is also the only President in US history to leave office (laughably) claiming that he was still the rightful office-holder.
You don’t get to troll-hoard documents for the purpose of a ‘presidential library’.
Don't disagree with you. I hope I didn't imply that I think it is OK to "troll-hoard documents" just because you are a former President.
Like Obama continued to do?
Your little back and forth above ignore the court cases surrounding the PRA. Not sure how many times I have to point these cases out.
You both argue from a belief that an executive office, NARA, is above the president.
Only one of them lied to the government about having the documents, and attempted to conceal documents from government investigators as a means of illegally retaining them.
Also, only one actively attempted to remain in office after being defeated for re-election - and plausibly retained documents because he actually believed he would be returned to power in spite of his loss.
FWIW, Hillary Clinton also had her private server (that was illegally used to process classified information, and thus became classified itself) siezed by the FBI. There was no need for further searching because in that case the illegally-handled classified info was digital, not printed (as opposed to Trump's troll-hoard of paper classified documents).
Claims of anti-Trump bias hand-wave away Trump’s repeated criminal & tortuous behavior before, during and after his presidency.
There is quite a set of assumptions in your post that are literally false. Meh.
Dave’s not very bright.
Jacob Sullum: Meh.
Columbus, Ohio, cops keep getting arrested for operating a vehicle while impaired.
Who is going to be caught dead in Columbus sober?
https://twitter.com/Aristos_Revenge/status/1658961419566546945?t=WR44qhEeo7PxyCGroJjuXw&s=19
I will once again reiterate to any politically connected people following me, anon or otherwise:
Red states need to start funneling resources from national guard to state guard, and scaling up their programs to involve more combat arms. ASAP. This is South Africa tier rhetoric.
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https://www.frontpagemag.com/next-joint-chiefs-chair-wants-white-male-officers-to-be-a-minority/
"Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out"
—David Horowitz
Next Joint Chiefs Chair Wants White Male Officers to be a Minority
Milley was bad, Brown will be much worse.
The topic of the Air Force memorandum was officer quotas set by race and gender.
Similar quotas had been issued by political appointees in a politically correct military, but they had focused on slowly boosting minority officers rather than calling for a purge of white men.
The 2014 quotas had looked for an 80 percent white, 10 percent black and 8 percent Asian officer corps. While choosing officers by any racial category rather than merit is racist, wrong and illegal under civil rights legislation, this fell short of Brown’s proposed racist purge.
Brown’s quotas limit the number of white officers to 67% and cut white men down to 43%.
The Air Force officer corps is currently 77% white: getting it down to 67%, a reduction of 10%, would require serious effort to purge white officers and bar the doors to any new ones.
Reducing the number of white men in the officer corps to a minority, 43%, would cripple the service and wipe out generations of talent: especially when 86% of pilots are white men.
What do you do with those 86% of white male pilots?
Gen. Brown and his radical allies who are destroying the Air Force and endangering national security claim that their racist and illegal policy is necessary because “diversity and inclusion” are the “key to the success of any organization”. And that requires 7% multiracial officers.
Purging the military of its best and brightest to be replaced with people whose politics resemble those of the leader. If you ever wanted proof that today's Democrats are barely closeted Stalinists, this is it.
Don't forget the SS and red guard.
We really need to split the country. Then after Blue America completes their "transition", including their military, we can invade and guide their reconstruction.
The split that would actually make sense is urban/rural. Which would be tricky. But at least we'd have them surrounded.
‘We need to split the country’?
How did that go the last time???
Now consider that the means by which to ‘make the Rebels howl’ have been vastly improved – far easier to light Rebel things on fire & less need of physical boots on the ground to do it…
A bunch of rednecks with AR15s doesn't stand much chance against modern air power and artillery... Also before you bring up GWOT, note that US forces lost ~7500 men, and we killed hundreds of thousands of 'them'.
I guess you are assuming that a critical portion of the troops have embraced the woke side and would happily bomb their home counties.
As for last time, at least one side was determined to prevent secession. This time might be different.
Even if they had, every person that thinks the powers that be want to rule a charred waste land are fucking retarded.
They couldn’t even get the stones to do that to the Taliban over 20+ years. I think American citizens chances are pretty good.
A bunch of rednecks with AR15s doesn’t stand much chance against modern air power and artillery…
Why do you asshats always assume the military will only be on one side when you make this stupid claim? It is literally the entire purpose of the 2A to insure this doesn't happen. Soldiers can read these days.
Also before you bring up GWOT, note that US forces lost ~7500 men, and we killed hundreds of thousands of ‘them’.
You left out the part about the 7000 mile buffer. Soldiers need to be fed and planes refueled. Many of those soldiers have families. You also forgot to mention the thousands of miles of vulnerable infrastructure those soldiers would be required to protect, and their need to defend against the asymmetry employed to destroy it. Who in the hell is the military going to bomb when the enemy is your neighbor?
"A bunch of rednecks with AR15s doesn’t stand much chance against modern air power and artillery"
True, if you assume all that hardware would have someone to operate it. If it ever came to pass, I'm guessing you could count on MAYBE 40% of the military to agree to happily bomb the shit out of their old high school.
Does the senate confirm joint chief of staff? This guy has no business in the service, let alone general.
The Senate does confirm CJCS.
And he has every business being in the military - which is supposed to be above your bullshit political nonsense...
So far there is absolutely nothing that Gen Miley has said or done, which is incompatible with his office...
Except his act of treason.
https://www.npr.org/2021/09/15/1037454733/milley-defends-call-to-chinese-general-about-trump
'State Guard' elements are Constitutionally required to be unarmed.
"No State shall, without the Consent of Congress... keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace"
And when has Congress ever rescinded its consent? Please write some more stupid shit that is internally contradicted for us. It is amusing.
Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️
@realchrisrufo
NEW: Baylor College of Medicine ethics professor Claire Horner, who trains doctors working at Texas Children's Hospital, explains that "parental rights" are the biggest "hangup" that might stop them from performing sex-change procedures on children.
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https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1658902623339290624
Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️
@realchrisrufo
NEW: A psychiatrist working with Texas Children's Hospital's child sex-change program explains how he circumvents "parental rights" concerns by telling families that if they do not affirm their child's "preferred name and pronouns," they will increase "the risk of suicide."
https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1658889892762615808
"child sex-change program"
Impossible, Mike swears it doesn't exist.
" . . . if they do not affirm their child’s “preferred name and pronouns,” they will increase “the risk of suicide.”"
Isn't that statistically false?
A federal appeals court on Monday froze a lower court decision that scrapped the Affordable Care Act's requirement that employers...
...not ban fully covering the cost of non-unspecified preventive health care services...
California about to give UI benefits to illegal immigrants.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240SB227
Now that will slow down the rush at the border.
"It's OK to ignore many food expiration dates."
Nah.
Past expiration = automatically throw away.
Near expiration but smells funny = automatically throw away.
1 week before expiration when shelf life is measured in months or years (example: canned tuna) = automatically throw away.
Food touches floor = automatically throw away.
However that tube of Neosporin in your medicine cabinet that expired in 2018? That's still good.
What's the shelf life for canned bugs?
The same as your plant-based steak.
Americans are increasingly changing religions.
That happens when your god is the Current Thing.
That Current Thing better have a DEI-ESG program.
The poll comes from the Public Religion Research Institute which is a left-wing, mostly one-man operation.
The guy running the PRRI is named Robert P. Jones, best known for being the author of a book called 'The Legacy of White Supremacy in American Christianity'.
I'm not saying the poll is phony, but Jones has an agenda, and his results contradict other polls which show church decline is almost exclusively amongst mainline churches who consecrate gay marriage and support abortion.
If they change their religion to "None," that is a sign that intelligence is growing after all and experts need to recalibrate the I.Q. tests.
Never change, Encog.
Chicago Mayors first act... raise taxes. With step one being "get that money."
Tom Bevan
@TomBevanRCP
Progressive allies of Mayor Brandon Johnson have released a financial blueprint titled - and I'm not joking - "First We Get the Money" calling for $12 billion in new taxes, including:
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"Head tax" of $33 per worker for companies with 50+ employees
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Quadrupling the tax on jet fuel.
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3.5% income tax on households making $100K+
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0.4% "wealth tax" for the top 10% of city earners.
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$1-2 transaction tax for financial exchanges.
Quadrupling the tax on jet fuel.
3.5% income tax on households making $100K+
0.4% “wealth tax” for the top 10% of city earners.
In an unrelated story; Chicago mystified as to the large number of wealthy residents taking 'the last plane out'.
Only rich people fly.
Because they love Gaia?
Because they bought indulgences.
And by indulgences we mean funding politicians who ban other people from flying, driving, and eating.
Quoting a violent gang leader seems appropriate for the Chicago government.
“First We Get the Money”
FWGM? Boooring. He didn't even try.
The measure prohibits app stores from offering TikTok for download to the phones of Montana residents and also says flatly that "Tiktok may not operate within the territorial jurisdiction of Montana."
Montanans can't exercise their rights to give all their metadata to Chicoms?
This Montana law doesn’t just offend me as a libertarian, it offends me as a software engineer.
The Internet doesn’t recognize states. To start banning things at the state level goes against the design of the Internet. That’s just offensive on the level of engineering aesthetics and practicality.
My own ISP is headquarters in Scottsdale, Arizona and uses a block of IP addresses that are assumed to be in Scottsdale. So, as just one example, if I go to the Home Depot website it assumes I want to shop the Scottsdale store.
If the yahoos in the Arizona legislature decide to do something stupid like this TikTok ban, I’m likely to get caught up in their net even if I don’t live in their fiefdom.
This is why nobody believes you’re in software let alone an engineer.
IP geolocation is well known.
https://tools.keycdn.com/geo
Not perfect but widely fucking used.
LOL you are not a software engineer.
Montanans can’t exercise their rights to give all their metadata to Chicoms?
Apparently not. They’ll just have to give their data to the Chicoms in one of the thousands of other ways it is possible.
Just not the most obvious way
Welp! No "Moving To Montana" to raise me a crop of dental floss and no promoting it with a TikTok dance.
Frank Zappa--Montana
https://youtu.be/smZA9Jv3qH0
Meh, you would just get undercut by imported Brazilian dental floss, anyway.
Not if I billed it as Fair Trade, Locally-Grown, Artesan-Crafted, Zircon-Encrusted Tweezer-Plucked Dental Floss. 🙂
If you want to be sure, put 1 oz of your personal info in an envelope and for $1.45 the US government (USPS) will send it to China.
However, it’s an unnecessary formality. The CCP already has tons of your personal info.
Or -- a lot of Americans will be disappointed to hear this -- it's likely the Chinese government isn't tracking your personal info because there's nothing particularly interesting about you.
How naive. You do realize that people gather personal information for other reasons such as identity theft. It's also six degrees (and not of Kevin Bacon, but similar) to find someone they really want the personal information on.
I was thinking they should just make it a crime to possess a phone under the age of 21.
Not good with arresting opponents, banning opposition parties, and shutting down speech, zalensky sets his eyes on arresting the judiciary.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/16/head-of-ukraine-supreme-court-held-in-anti-corruption-investigation
We have to spend billions defending Dick-Piano because DEMOCRACY!
He's just enjoying the aspects of his job that open up when you can use the excuse "We're at war!"
'...unless it is necessary to prevent extremely serious, immediate harm to national security,...' WTF? What clause of the Constitution says or supports that? You can't pull things out of your rear end. States have concurrent jurisdiction here and they've exercised it in the best interests of it's citizens.
States cannot circumvent their citizens' Bill of Rights even to protect them from themselves. As for what clause of the constitution? I'm guessing none, rather judicial precedent. That's primarily how our rights get protected/eroded.
"States cannot circumvent their citizens’ Bill of Rights even to protect them from themselves."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
Where the fuck have you been for the past 100 years?
Drinking soy lattes apparently
For 100 years? That's a latte coffee!
Of course you're right. I meant states should not circumvent....
https://twitter.com/CCrowley100/status/1659158360892100609?t=N0DQEyPaRWGYJX1X7IbSDw&s=19
"Liberalism is the party of upstarts who have insinuated themselves between the people and its great men. Liberals feel themselves as isolated individuals, responsible to nobody. They do not share the nation’s traditions, they are indifferent to its past and have no ambition for its future. They seek only their own personal advantage in the present. Their dream is the great International, in which the differences of peoples and languages, races and cultures will be obliterated."
— Arthur Moeller van den Bruck, Germany's Third Empire (Das Dritte Reich)
"Liberalism" in this context means modern Libertarianism. And "Great Men" includes Putin too, right?
By the way: Yay, Self! 🙂
https://twitter.com/TheCriticalDri2/status/1659122925843120129?t=GZzazFKrfqgmuSult7I-uA&s=19
Fuck off, film. This right here is why modern movies suck.
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https://twitter.com/Travis_in_Flint/status/1658952927212388352?t=w2w7MlqV_BSkqWbON4kALA&s=19
In 2020 Zion Teasley was arrested for a string of armed robberies, kidnapping, and other charges. He was sentenced to 3 years in prison. They decided to give him early release instead of waiting until July. During the time when he should’ve been in prison, he killed 29 year old Lauren Heike. It is now being reported that he had she/her pronouns on his linekedin profile and claims he’s gender confused and wanted to “look like her.”
The media didn’t find this case or these details important enough to make them national headlines like they did with the Jordan Neely death. Large media is the enemy of the people.
New guidance from the U.S. Department of Education says "teachers, school administrators, and other school employees may not encourage or discourage private prayer or other religious activity."
Let's pray all school employees properly implement this guidance.
Perhaps every day can start with a public announcement to the effect that "The U.S. Department of Education neither encourages nor discourages religious activity."
No problem, unless the USDE also gets to define "religious activity", right?
"...One nation, neither encouraging nor discouraging religious activity, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
It gets a bit wordy at the end there.
https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1659171653933228033?t=i6TH4ieec0uhDYyuMaZeSg&s=19
Former President Barack Obama said during an interview Tuesday with CBS News that thing he is “most worried about” is the that the mainstream media narrative of events is no long accepted by many Americans as “a common set of facts.”
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Control of the narrative is required for most democratic thinking.
It is a bizarre lament that has been coming from certain politicians and pundits. It is taken as a given thathaving a common set of "facts" is a better circumstance, even if the alleged "facts" are untrue.
It is something I expect out of someone with Obama's ideology, but I have heard it from people I had some respect for, and it is quite a creepy position to take.
He wants to organize the community along his lines and he's pissy that the community is telling him in so many words to "fuck off".
Maybe they should have fuckin' thought of that before lying constantly for years.
It's OK to ignore many food expiration dates.
Every bachelor already knows this.
https://twitter.com/BillFOXLA/status/1658997112984461318?t=QuIP2EneTs2eHJwl4E4_Rw&s=19
NEW: An illegal immigrant from Honduras is charged with raping a teenage girl in an Alabama restaurant bathroom. @BreitbartNews reports he had a criminal record, crossed illegally into Eagle Pass, TX in Nov. 2021, & was released into the U.S. by DHS.
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"Americans are increasingly changing religions."
Does this include Gaia worship and CRT Cultural Marxism?
Trannies and Ukraine
Statism is all the rage right now.
Would someone *kindly* explain why some dog walkers, having 'cleaned up', leave the bagged feces by the side of the road/trail? Even if they intend a pick-up on the return trip, it sure looks like littering. What if I dumped a bunch of trash with a sign 'I'll be back in a while to retrieve this. Thanks for your understanding!'? Isn't that better than what those dog walkers do?
Maybe they're just shitty people.
Feeding the sqrslys.
Also the book "this book is gay" teachers are giving you students has a section on poop eating.
Adderall shortage?
It’s because they’re idiots.
Look! If they bag it up in front of any possible observers and later low-key toss it into my bushes they have done their part. And the pickup on the return trip is a lie they will tell you if you witness them dropping it but it never gets picked up. I'd rather they just leave the crap...it will go away eventually...better than it festering in a tiny plastic greenhouse just because they don't want to be observed to be a douche.
'"A federal appeals court on Monday froze a lower court decision that scrapped the Affordable Care Act's requirement that employers fully cover the cost of specified preventive health care services," reported Axios.'
Phew! Nothing is more important than free services that prevent normal biological sex traits.
"Can governments increase birthrates? Should they?"
WTF, ENB? Are you questioning mandatory abortion quotas?
It's OK to ignore many food expiration dates.
That's because these are sell-by dates, not so much expiry dates.
Exactly. What I said above.
I see a lot of "use by" dates. Just sayin'.
"...other services recommended by the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force."
Staffed with every congress-critters' drunken uncle.
The battle for your kid's soul is on.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/05/18/the-war-for-your-childs-soul/
Sure, DeSantis-bashing teachers and leftists are not taking to the streets to chant: ‘What do we want? The right to mess up children’s minds! When do we want it? Now!’ They’re not waving placards demanding the liberty to terrorise the minds of innocents. But their bristling at DeSantis’s ban on the guilt-tripping of children is incredibly revealing. It points to the real reason Ron irritates them so – because he’s locking them out of children’s souls.
At root, the elite fury with DeSantis is not about freedom in education, but control in education. They hate DeSantis because he’s making it harder for them to mould and morally instruct your children. Just consider the staggering hypocrisy of the liberal angst over DeSantis’s clampdown on ‘psychological distress’. For decades now, liberals have sought to cushion the young from ‘psychological distress’, whether that’s the distress of playground fisticuffs, being ‘misgendered’, or hearing an idea they disagree with. This over-protection has had some very bad consequences. And yet now these very same mollycoddlers of youth have the gall to pose as the defenders of distress as an essential element of the pedagogic experience. Who do they think they’re kidding?
What they’re really saying is that we must have the right to cause psychological distress in the young. We must have the right to unsettle children, to empty their minds of the dumb beliefs of their parents, to make them feel ashamed of their race and nation, to turn them into pliable recipients of correct-think. Make no mistake – they view DeSantis’s prohibition on stirring up racial distress in the classroom as a barrier to their ideological crusade, which tells you everything you need to know about how foul and illiberal that ideological crusade has become.
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What are you trying to hide??
Dick pics
Psychological issues have only increased with the adoption of ESL and victimhood propaganda.
There is just something about telling kids that if they don't DO SOMETHING then all life on the planet will end that makes them neurotic.
What the heck does ESL (English as a second language) have to do with psychological issues?
In fact, American children would be better off learning a second, or even third, language starting at a much younger age. Not only is it easier for children to learn a new language, being multilingual is beneficial for a myriad of reasons.
Remember, kids in liberal families have higher rates of anxiety, depression, and suicide.
Something about not interfering with your enemy when he is fucking up?
Biden wants you to give up your inexpensive gasoline car.
https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_759e53c0-f4f8-11ed-9b54-9b648a93e6e4.html
Will the Biden administration’s latest energy regulations force Americans out of gas vehicles and into more expensive electric cars? Lawmakers in the U.S. House held a hearing Wednesday tackling that key question.
The hearing, held by the Oversight Committee’s Economic Growth, Energy Policy, and Regulatory Affairs Subcommittee, focused on newly proposed Environmental Protection Agency tailpipe emission rules that the federal agency itself called “ambitious.”
The EPA projects the proposed regulation would mean that fully electric vehicles make up two thirds of all new "light duty" and 46% of new medium-duty vehicle sales by 2032.
“The rules would require an incredibly rapid EV transition that industry, the grid, and consumer demand cannot keep pace with,” U.S. Rep. Pat Fallon, R-Texas, who chairs the subcommittee, said during the hearing. “Further, the critical mineral supply chain is already under stress. Does EPA even know whether there is enough raw material to meet its proposed standards?”
“The EPA defines EVs as zero-emission vehicles. However, EVs are not truly zero-emission vehicles,” Josh Roe, CEO of the Kansas Corn Growers Association, said during his testimony. “While they do not have a tailpipe, you still need to account for the emissions that come from the power grid. The U.S. power grid is currently 60% powered by coal and natural gas. Current and proposed EPA rules do not account for these upstream emissions when calculating compliance, let alone the additional emissions and toxic pollution generated by mining rare earth minerals around the world.”
“EVs are $10,000-25,000 more expensive than comparable internal combustion engine vehicles, placing them out of reach for many consumers including those in rural America where median incomes are lower than that of urban areas,” he said.
It's not about the cost, it's about limiting the mobility of the average American
Don't worry folks. The experts have it all figured out. Just bend over and let them take care of you.
Montana has no first-rate college or university. It has no top-level trauma center and provides (and receives) crappy healthcare in general. It is an educational, healthcare, and cultural wasteland. It is among the least productive (most parasitic) states. Montana Republicans are striving to improve Montana by banning a silly app.
Carry on, clingers.
They're still better than where you went, Artie. So carry on, bigoted hicklib cling-on.
But we have a last-rate asshole bigot.
Fuck off and die, asshole.
Don't get cow shit on your flourishing cape when you go, Klinger
"Montana has no first-rate college or university. It has no top-level trauma center..."
Montana has 1.1 million people, that's 38.1 million less than California. And they're spread over 147,000 sq. miles.
Bitching that Stanford isn't there, is retarded.
And they have four level 2 and three level 3 trauma centers which for one million people is pretty damn good.
You're such a fucking cartoon, Kirkland.
Having zero top-rate trauma centers is not good.
Having zero first-class educational institutions is not good.
Striving to avoid those points is pathetic and disingenuous.
You got any citations for your asinine assertions, bigoted hicklib asshole?
Level 2 is a top rate trauma center, you fucking idiot. There's five levels.
Level 1 and level 2 trauma centers are almost exactly the same, and both can manage people with severe injuries. Both centers require surgeons to be available 24-7 to respond to a trauma patient shortly after their arrival at the center.
The main difference between level 1 and level 2 is that level 2 centers aren’t necessarily training associated, so they don’t have the research and publication expectations of a level 1 center.
What with Sarcasmic, Sqrlsy, Hank and Kirkland, why are our lefties so idiotic?
Hey he's probably never been here his whole shtick is having a anime character name and using obama based insults. He might want to check out some of donations our schools just got via graduates ie conoco phillips so yeah they can't put out anyone like stanford so sad
Arthur L. Hicklib apparently doesn't realize that Missoula and Bozeman are packed full of fellow hicklibs. This is why Arthur L. Hicklib remains the dumbest poster on this board, forever compensating for his backwater upbringing and career
Carry on, hicklib.
that is also a true statement.
Die troll.
Yeah, but at least Montana can feed and power itself, does not rob ordinary people through "global finance", and has not unleashed any pandemics lately.
Carry on, bozo.
If Montana could feed itself it wouldn't be such a parasite sucking at the federal teat, freeloading off others.
You first, Artie. You stop sucking off that welfare teat first, hicklib.
Arthur L. Hicklib know all about parasites because he sees them every time his spawn visit.
Cool. Let's put a blockade around Montana, and one of those exalted elite shining cities, say Manhattan. Hell, I'll give you all of NYC. Now which one will starve first?
1/3 of Montana, Most Clueless Poster, is owned by the feds. Really you don't know that.
And look up Comparative Advantage: NOBODY and I mean NOBODY is in the category you think is ideal.
Hemorrhaging population.
https://www.illinoispolicy.org/85-of-illinois-communities-lose-people-in-2022-chicago-loses-33k/
Illinois’ population loss hit more than 85% of its cities, towns and villages in 2022, but 32% of the state’s 104,437-person loss came out of the city of Chicago, new Census data shows.
Population decline being concentrated among the most populous areas of the state wasn’t because these areas have more people to begin with. Even when controlling for population levels, Illinois’ largest cities are experiencing rates of population decline more than 50% faster than smaller communities.
Chicago lost 32,990 residents from July 2021-July 2022, the second-most of any city in America. Only New York City lost more people than Chicago during 2022.
https://twitter.com/martyrmade/status/1658831934511005696?t=ByxFKnJq6-R2YANFuGQQ9w&s=19
During this Jewish Heritage Month, pause to appreciate Jewish Americans serving our country in the Biden administration, including:
Blinken (Secretary of State)
Sherman (Deputy Secretary of State)
Yellen (Treasury Secretary)
Garland (Attorney General)
Cohen (Deputy CIA Director)
Haines (Director of Natl Intelligence)
Klain (Chief of Staff)
Lander (Science & Tech Director)
Levine (Deputy Health Secretary)
Mayorkas (Director of Homeland Security)
Neuberger (NSA Cybersecurity Director)
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IT'S A CONSPIRACY LIKE JOHN BIRCH TOLD US!!!
https://www.thefp.com/p/how-therapists-became-social-justice-warriors
Cooney is not alone in finding therapy overtaken by the same kind of social justice ideology prevalent in schools, medicine, and the law. I spoke with more than two dozen therapists and clients who painted a disturbing picture of what happens in the treatment room when therapists make the tenets of this ideology central to their work, instead of offering empowering approaches that help patients make better choices and take control of their lives. Some patients, like Cooney, have also found themselves “fired” for expressing unacceptable thoughts.
I spoke to new therapists, some still in training, who describe a profession that teaches the ascribing of oppressor or victim categories to patients, based on their innate characteristics, instead of seeing them as individuals. Several sources said their applications to graduate schools required them to make a written commitment to anti-racism. Some said they’d been penalized for asking the “wrong” questions in class, detailing how this ideological encroachment damages their own mental health.
Privileged access to TayTay.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/twitter-files-twitter-provided-privileged-access-banning-queen-taylor-lorenz
Reinstating banned Twitter accounts certainly alarmed Taylor Lorenz as well. According to newly disclosed Twitter files, Lorenz successfully banned an account only a few weeks prior to publishing her Washington Post essay. Other files show Lorenz behind other bans and that Twitter seemed to have a special relationship with her, sending out an alert after Tucker Carlson did a short segment on Fox News ridiculing her often-criticized reporting.
After Lorenz reported @fearthefloof, Twitter executives looked for possible violations of rules, but apparently found none, concluding the account was “generally healthy and mostly conversational or commentary in nature.” Nonetheless, the account was suspended for violating “Twitter media policy.”
Digging through Twitter’s files, I discovered other examples where Twitter granted Lorenz special privileges. After Tucker Carlson did a brief March 2021 Fox News segment deriding Lorenz’s penchant for labeling criticism of herself as “harassment,” one Twitter official alerted colleagues to monitor tweets about the Post columnist—“We need to be careful with her.”
“All I do is just share what people put on Tik Tok, in their own words, which is scary to them,” Libs of TikTok's Raichik told me. “And this tears apart their narratives, because it’s first-hand evidence of how extreme they are. When they can’t debate their ideas, they then resort to censorship. And the first step was doxing me, and Taylor Lorenz showing up at my family’s house.”
The day after Caraballo asked for Libs of TikTok to be banned, a Twitter employee wrote that Taylor Lorenz had reported an account called @fearthefloof. The email implies that Lorenz had successfully banned another account called @RobProvince. In this case, as in many others, the Twitter employee asked to see if violations could be found from multiple angles.
Lorenz’s concerns about doxing ring somewhat hollow. In her Washington Post essay exposing Chaya Raichik as the person behind Libs of TikTok, Lorenz’s piece had a link to Raichik’s work address. In a defamation lawsuit filed in August 2021 and still working its way through the courts, Lorenz is also accused of doxing Ariadna Jacob in a New York Times article “Trying to Make It Big Online? Getting Signed Isn’t Everything.”
I was just about to post this.
It is really the first drop explicitly showing how Twitter was doing more than just colluding with the Government to be a proxy for their censorship.
On one hand, the seriousness does not rise to the level of censorship by proxy. What was happening was that Twitter employees and Lorenz (and many of the people helping her politically motivated assaults on free expression) were stretching or breaking Twitter policy, or exploiting loopholes in their policies to harass others off the platform. Obviously a private company is free to do this if they want. And I don't think government's place is to criminally interfere in this process.
On the other hand, this shows something far more insidious. It shows how the Blue Bubble has reinforced a very specific signal and tried to convince the world that it is mainstream. Let’s be clear, here: Most of the examples in that article show that Lorenz was obsessively focused on removing dissent or criticism from Twitter. Her attacks on Libs of TikTok- as well as people trying to publish examples of her previous insane statements- demonstrate a clear pattern to silence any debate in the “Town Square” that might be inconvenient to her leftist agenda.
Finally, on the mutant third hand, there is plenty for libertarians to be upset about here. Yes, private companies can make private decisions, but lying is still a violation of the NAP. The evidence indicates that they were being unethical- insisting that they had a “fair” policy while in reality practicing that policy (even violating it periodically) in a very one-sided and biased way. I continue to believe that Government cannot do anything to stop this without inflicting a much more serious evil. But belief in a free market also means shouting loud and clear when one of the actors acts in a disingenuous manner. Too many libertarians have spent all their time kvetching about government, and too little time rightfully and righteously criticizing businesses whose anti-market behaviors are daring Statists to come in and regulate.
I continue to believe that Government cannot do anything to stop this without inflicting a much more serious evil. But belief in a free market also means shouting loud and clear when one of the actors acts in a disingenuous manner.
I’m not even sure what “belief in a free market” means. Free markets are something that will never exist because people are people. Rather they’re something to strive for.
Disingenuous actors create an opportunity for someone to fill a void in the market. Unless consumers actually want to be lied to. Tucker Carlson is proof that that’s the case.
Edit: Reminds me of a joke. Why did Raggedy Ann get kicked out of the toybox? She kept sitting in Pinocchio's face and yelling "Lie to me baby! Lie to me!"
"I’m not even sure what “belief in a free market” means."
It means believing that people should be allowed to make consumptive choices free of force. Since fraud is typically seen as an initiation of force, a belief in free markets means that you fraud should be mitigated in those markets.
And one can believe in the importance of free markets while acknowledging that it is very difficult to achieve. Just as one can believe in a healthy body, while periodically doing unhealthy things.
"Disingenuous actors create an opportunity for someone to fill a void in the market."
Totally agree. And a great market signal telling someone of this opportunity is folks who care about fraud-free markets shouting far and wide about someone engaged in unethical, potentially fraudulent activities, no?
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the-monkey-business-of-online-experts
inaccurate claims were 4.6X more frequent that accurate ones and when adjusted for follower count this led to 974X more exposure for false claims.
let that one sink in. if you grabbed a tweet on schools and monkeypox from “an expert” at random on a follower weighted basis, it had a 99.897% chance of being wrong.
truly, the mind boggles. it’s all static no signal. it’s so incredibly wrong and always in the direction of “exaggerating and overblowing risk” that a simple heuristic of “do the opposite of what experts say” is a near perfect outcomes driver.
amazingly, this gets even MORE stark of you exclude health reporters who seem to be the only ones with a winning record on correct vs wrong here.
Again, this is more evidence that you must never let data decide public policy. Individuals should absolutely consider all data- from experts and their specific life-status- in deciding what actions to take. But Public Policy that depends on experts means FORCING other people when wrong.
LinkedIn or ProgtardIn?
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/linkedin-bans-journalist-mentioning-durham-report
Under the pretense of being a career-builder site, Microsoft-owned LinkedIn has flown largely below radar, but it may now be one of the most egregious social-media offenders in terms of practicing anti-conservative bias and censorship.
On Tuesday, the site confirmed my long-held suspicions that it sought to police conservative speech by implementing an outright ban on me—seemingly for a post that denounced the New York Times‘s fake news coverage of the Durham report.
Specifically, I had posted a response to Meredith Kopit Levien, the president and chief executive officer of the Times, expressing my hope that the newspaper would return its Pulitzer Prize for reporting on the Russia-collusion hoax in the wake of special counsel John Durham’s final confirmation that the story was entirely fabricated by the Hillary Clinton campaign with help from powerful government agencies.
In any event, the platform, which regularly pushes woke storylines in its own newsfeed, has demonstrated a clear double standard. But worse than that, its apparent efforts to suppress criticism of the Russia hoax evoke an all-too-familiar scenario for conservative users.
The company’s dubious history of political meddling is not in doubt. Most notably, co-founder Reid Hoffman has been behind at least one effort to use bots to actively push disinformation and election interference.
Meanwhile, Hoffman himself has no scruples about consorting with convicted sex-offenders, as revealed by the bombshell Wall Street Journal reports earlier this month that he had visited the private island of billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein while on a fundraising trip.
That puts him in good company with Microsoft founder Bill Gates, another personal acquaintance of Epstein, who died of reported suicide in 2019 while being held in a New York jail.
I generally don't disagree with keeping this debate off the platform. If it doesn't belong in the work place, then I see very little upside in LinkedIn including it on their platform. If my employees were starting to debate about the Durham report, I would very quickly get it stopped.
That isn't to say that other stuff (like the absurd CRT/DEI nonsense) shouldn't ALSO be eliminated from the work place. But it isn't LinkedIn's fault that corporations have decided to jump on the Woke bandwaggon. That is a problem much bigger than them.
And by the way, do a search on LinkedIn and there is tons of discussion about the whole Bud Light WOKE controversy. And it is the appropriate type of discussion for a work place. Generally, instead of "RHhhhheeeee! Woketards!" and "Rheeeee! Bigots!" the discussion is more along these lines:
https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7057029850728972288
It’s not often that a brand can anger all sides of the political spectrum AND take a financial hit but Bud Light managed to do that last week. The damage is continuing into this week. But at Kith, we’re not big on Monday morning quarterbacking so all I will say about the response is that it broke every rule, and it ended exactly as one would expect when you throw the rulebook out the window. The company knows it, their PR and crisis agencies know it, and we all know it. Enough said.
For the root of the problem, we need to go back a bit. I can’t tell you exactly when or how it happened, but the result tells me it happened something like this: an organizational problem ensured the company’s priorities were not well understood throughout the company and that their values were not clear, either internally or externally.
This is not uncommon for large companies, but it is the catalyst to many a reputationally damaging misstep. The critical missing piece can be summed up with the word clarity: clarity on their values (and therefore strategy), their stakeholders, and clarity on their chain of command.
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Notice how that is less about the politics and more about how a business ought to navigate politics.
I wouldn't be surprised if their communications chain got broken during the pandemic and upper management has been flitting around with no oversight from the CEO the last 3 years. It's just that no one cared as long as the money kept rolling in. That's probably a good cautionary tale as to why work-from-home is not a one size fits all proposition in big corporations.
The thing is, these efforts are all tied in to getting goodboi points from the Human Rights Campaign, along with the simple fact that the Millennial college-degreed chickens from the early-mid 2000s are coming home to roost. This is the consequence of thinking this rad-left stupidity would stay in it's campus containment zone.
One of the main reasons given for switching was dissatisfaction with their former religion's negative stance on LGBT issues.
This cult has taken over EVERYTHING. Its amazing.
New York Mayor Declares Texas A Sanctuary State For Immigrants
Ha! I thought this would link to a clever piece on the Bee.
Honestly wasn't sure if that was going to be The Bee or Not The Bee...
"A federal appeals court on Monday froze a lower court decision that scrapped the Affordable Care Act's requirement t
The entire act is CLEARLY unconstitutional, by even a generous reading of document and the powers allocated to the federal guv.
Can governments increase birthrates? Should they?
so many ways to reply to this.
1. Government's HAVE increased birthrates in the US by paying single moms to have more kids
2. Ban abortions, more births. it's quite simple
3. No, it's none of the government's business if i have kids or how many . fuck off slaver. Even asking this question reveals the slaver mentality.
"Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed bills Wednesday that ban gender-affirming care for minors
"gender affirming care" is the most disgusting propaganda and dishonest euphemism of our time. Regime apparatchik repeating this phrase is a liar and a propagandist.
When minors can choose to legally have sex, drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes or dope, buy guns, get tattoos (illegal in many states), be strippers, enter into contracts, etc., then maybe we can consider letting them cut off their naughty bits.
It isn’t necessary to pass a law against minors getting their naughty bits cut off because it is not something any surgeon in the US will actually do.
Oh, you disingenuous lying sack of fucking dog shit. You've been told over and over again, time and time again, on multiple occasions by several of us here (who you've muted so as not to see nor acknowledge it) that it is indeed happening. If not, then why, do tell, did Washington pass a law allowing minors to do so without parental consent?
https://mynorthwest.com/3296653/rantz-washington-laws-permit-teen-gender-reassignment-surgery-parental-consent/
Washington state now appears to allow minors to undergo life-changing gender reassignment surgery without parental consent.
Under a new law, health insurers must cover “gender-affirming” care, including surgical treatments that were previously denied coverage. Democrats rejected a proposal to apply the new law to patients over 18 years old.
It’s one in a series of new laws that, taken together, allow children as young as 13 years old to make serious health care decisions.
Last year, via SB 5889, Washington Democrats forced insurers to cover gender dysphoria treatment and gender-affirming care for minors between 13 and 17, without parental consent. It mandates that insurers deal directly with the patient without requiring the policyholder’s authorization.
lol again with your fedposting bullshit.
if you what you say is true why would anyone object to passing such laws?
Think of it as an anti-lynching law. Sure nobody is lynching anyone but it cant hurt to have it explicitly called out in the law eh? I 'm sure you wont object.
What i cant understand is, why is the federal government paying agents to promote tranny shit on message boards? it's really kinda wierd.
Fire extinguishers, White Mike. Fire extinguishers.
I dunno. "Minor Attracted Person" is pretty grim euphemism.
Dont like government pushing back on trans mania? dont push trans mania with government.
"Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed bills Wednesday that ban gender-affirming care for minors,
Par for the course for any possible action taken by any doctor. government decides when what where and how, for EVERYTHING. this is no exception. The fucking trans cult got me to pay for their sex changes, even when in PRISON, so now this is all fair game for government policy making assholes.
target drag shows. Same as strip clubs, casinos and all kinds of other things government disallows kids from participating in. Adults can do wahtever drag shows they want amongst themselves. Saying "target drag shows" is an outright lie. You trannies tried to get gets into the drag shows and put them on at SCHOOLS and now you get these fucking laws.
, restrict discussion of personal pronouns in schools
gotta love this one. Canada will fine you for NOT using personal pronouns correctly. Social media will BAN you for "misgendering" or "deadnaming" (ridiculous word and concept) and none of you regime apparatchiks put out a SINGLE hit piece criticizing that overreach. Live in the bed you made.
and force people to use certain bathrooms
Flip side of "force business to let anyone use any restroom" which is happening in other places. shrug.
Don't you speak woke? Resisting official fascism is the worst kind of fascism.
A federal court has (for now) rejected New Jersey's restrictions on concealed carry.
Unfathomably based. LFG
https://twitter.com/boardingarea/status/1659158404093595648?s=46&t=0E3j5st2xxnFRnT_IkYSIQ
Plus Size Model Accuses United Airlines of Discrimination Because She Was Too Big to Walk Down Airplane Aisle via @yourownkanoo
That bitch isn't "plus sized", she's morbidly obese.
If the airlines widen the aisle, fatty will bitch about the smaller seat sizes.
Ew(e)
It's not discrimination, it's reality. Your ass is really too big for normal.
‘Shaken’ Meghan Markle, Prince Harry claim they were involved in ‘near-fatal’ paparazzi chase in NYC
From Twitter:
I lived in Manhattan for 17 yrs & it is not possible to have a 2hr “car chase” there. Too many street lights/stop signs, too much foot/car traffic & hundreds of places you could safely pull over to protect yourself.
Meghan wants to be Diana so bad, she can taste, smell, hear, and feel it. Too bad for her, she's no Diana Spencer. Maybe if Harry cheats on her with a former lover he hasn't totally given up yet...
😛
Has Chelsea gotten married yet?
Maricopa’s log file data shows that 11 of these signature verification workers approved 170K signatures at a rate of between 0 and 2.99 seconds with a 99.97% approval rating.
Shrike and Jeff tremble with joy:
Colorado School District Hosts Drag Show
"Muse, rated for children aged eight and above, focused on an adult male transitioning to a female and featured provocatively dressed men performing sexual dances for an audience full of children.
Young audience members were clearly disturbed. One student expressed his concern by interrupting the show: “This is wrong,” he cried. “Don’t you know we’re in third grade?”
Parental consent for this school sponsored field trip was assumed and covered under a blanket permission slip that authorized student attendance to all STARS performances throughout the year."
Eagle County is full of Champagne Socialists. It's not a surprise they support the sexualization of kids.
It's also pretty fucking pathetic that an 8-year old has a stronger moral compass than the grown-ass men and women pushing this shit.
It's almost like South Park come to life (including the Colorado setting).
I hear drag queens like feathers. Let's help them, and add a little tar. For the school administrators, too.
If Politicians Want to Preach Energy Saving, They Should Stop Taking Private Jets
Jacobin Magazine, so a lot of establishment lefty kids are probably experiencing cognitive dissonance right now.
As long as they donate to some green NGO, who in turn will boot some starving indigenous people from a new carbon-capturing nature preserve, all is well.
Soros-Backed Group Pushes Chicago Mayor To Slash Funding for 'Racist' Police Force
The odds are good that Mayor Brandon Johnson will probably do exactly that.
But we still will ultimately need a wall.
https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-elon-musk-reacts-to-criticism-over-george-soros-magneto
Usual Idiots call Elon Musk an antisemite for comparing George Soros to Magneto (from the X-Men comic book series). Usual Idiots unaware that… Magneto is Jewish. And was a Holocaust Survivor from Auschwitz.
Presumably because they’re idiots.
Comparing George Soros to Magneto is actually a compliment, since Magneto actually resisted the Nazis instead of collaborating with them.
Magneto is the perfect comparison. "Tolerance or death" is the rallying cry of the modern Progressive.
Magneto revolted and joined the resistance, while in the real world Soros joined the Nazi party and laid the foundation of his vast wealth by robbing the homes of captured Jews.
But remember, it's only anti-Semitic to criticize the latter.
Is that good racism or bad racism?
"Gianforte's proposed changes ranged "from 'missing the point' to 'profoundly idiotic"
This kind of blatantly unconstitutional virtue signaling will only be curbed when officials are punished under the law for violating the Constitution and their oaths of office to support and defend it. Of course, officials should not be punished for doing their jobs honestly or making an occasional honest mistake. But intentionally implementing laws and regulations that they know will be struck down after costing the taxpayers and injured private citizens wasted time and money to challenge their misdeeds in court should make them personally liable for the damages and cost them their official positions. Also, all new laws and regulations and executive orders should be required to pass judicial review for constitutionality before they go into effect.
It's Time for Hillary to Pay for What She's Done to America
Hillary Clinton lied. She knew Donald Trump was not a Russian spy. Trump knew she was lying. The FBI knew she lied but went after Trump anyway. The CIA knew she lied. President Barack Obama knew she lied. Joe Biden knew she lied. The FBI covered up for her. The CIA covered up for her. The DOJ covered up for her. Barack Obama covered for her and so did Joe Biden.
Here’s Hillary touting the “connection” between Trump and the Alfa Bank scam. Sullivan, Joe Biden’s National Security Adviser — which should help explain why his administration’s foreign policy is such a cluster — amplified her tweet as well.
https://twitter.com/JudiciaryGOP/status/1658234886694612992
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1658931091737124864
“BREAKING: Suspect Zion Teasley in stabbing of Phoenix jogger told police he ‘wanted to look like her,’ uses ‘they/them’ pronouns on LinkedIn, was ‘confused about his sexuality’
Lauren Heike, 29, was found stabbed 15 times”
REMINDER: Trannies are the most dangerous terrorist group in america.
Meanwhile, MSM notes China fines a comedian for mocking the Chinese military yet mocks people over - oh wait - the lab leak theory . How odd.
hundreds of thousands of Montanans who use the app to express themselves, gather information, and run their small business
But Montana is ignorant of TikTok because they called it "tik-tok"?
Umm, yes. It’s pretty darned ignorant to misspell a company’s name in a bill. Hard to sugar coat how blatantly ignorant it was.
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Especially for undesired classes.
They do really love it. Eugenics are fine if the right people are the ones pushing the buttons.
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A better question is, do bears eat Cuban sandwiches in trunks?
Is he too lazy to even find posts to troll onto today? Had to shit his pants in a new thread to get that dose of negative attention he so desperately craves.
Oddly enough it is democrats pushing segregation. And unlike sarc I will say I am against the klan, and democrat racial marxism.
Short answer? She's from a wealthy, well-connected family, like fellow radical chic "journalist" Ben Collins.
This is humor that makes it's own gravy! We'll be joking about this for years to come! 🙂
To stay in the trunk or leave the trunk, that is the question...
https://twitter.com/DtestableMutant/status/1658873223835181056
Does the pope shit in the woods? And if he does and no one hears his farts , does it make a sound?
The irony in you saying I crave attention in a response to someone to must crave attention or they wouldn't reply to a good 30% of my posts. If I craved attention I'd just respond to your troll buddies. I'd get so much attention I could fill a bucket with internet drippings.
Anyone who thinks that muting is a punishment is most definitely an attention whore.
Anyone who brags about muting people every day is doubly so.
Give him a break, he's only been corrected a dozen times on the claim.
Good point. And he talks all day about how great the Cowboys used to be before they got the new Head Coach.
Oddly? The New Democrats, same as the old Democrats.
How can you say you're against the Klan, don't you support the brave men and women of the FBI?
Look at my posting history dummy.
I should have included the /sarcasm tag. I believe there are few, if any legitimate klansmen anymore. I believe it's just an alphabet agency circle-jerk at this point in time. Informants and moles make up the vast majority, if not all members.
I completely agree. Oddly was tongue in cheek.
What about the Irish?
I think that was actual sarcasm, jesse.
Possibly.