Colombia Could Have Had a Coke-Legalizing, TikTok-Famous President. They Elected a Socialist Instead.
President-elect Gustavo Petro could easily take Colombia in an illiberal direction.

Colombia's illegal drug trade arose not with cocaine but with the "marijuana bonanza" of the 1970s. American Peace Corps volunteers kicked off the boom after running across the "Santa Marta Gold" strain that grew on the Caribbean coast and bringing the "luxurious marijuana of heady strength" back to the States. It proved so popular that, by 1979, Colombia was providing "roughly two-thirds of all the pot smoked" in the U.S., according to Time Magazine. The war on drugs, officially declared in 1971 by President Richard Nixon, would soon bury the industry.
Half a century and tens of thousands of violent deaths later, Colombians had their first chance to elect a presidential candidate with an unequivocal legalization agenda last Sunday. Rodolfo Hernandez—a 77-year-old TikTok-famous construction tycoon who was a neophyte on the national political stage—campaigned on an anti-drug-war platform. The drug business, Hernandez argued, needs a capitalist approach instead of repression and violence. "The most dangerous thing about drugs," he said, "is prohibition."
Hernandez points out that while other countries have already legalized recreational cannabis consumption, Colombia, "which produces the world's best marijuana" in his opinion, has maintained prohibition. "We are more papist than the pope…afraid of what others will say."
Though Colombia's Congress legalized medical marijuana in 2015, recreational use is still not allowed and red tape continues to saddle the local industry. According to industry sources, patients' access to medical cannabis is limited since physicians cannot prescribe dry cannabis flower—only manufactured cannabis-based products. Also, the use of CBD—a multibillion-dollar industry in the U.S.—is still not allowed in Colombian food, beverages, supplements, or veterinary products. But any Colombian president could deregulate these sectors pretty easily by decree.
But it doesn't look like that will be happening now, since Hernandez narrowly lost to Gustavo Petro—a former guerrilla group member who has been a professional politician for the last three decades—in the June 19 runoff. Despite his close links to Venezuela's Hugo Chávez and his "21st century socialism" agenda, Petro managed to garner the support of the traditional, often corrupt political machines that tend to heavily influence Colombian elections.
Petro has long held a "public health" approach to the country's drug problems. When he was mayor of Bogotá, Colombia's capital, he set up a short-lived program to provide drugs directly to addicts. Curiously, Hernandez proposed a similar program at the national level.
Petro could deregulate the marijuana and broader drug industry, but, like the rest of the Colombian left, he misunderstands and distrusts the free market. His proposal involves neither across-the-board legalization nor the commercial, private sector solutions that could put an end to black markets, turf wars between traffickers, and the collateral damage that armed cartels inflict on civilians. Rather, Petro's stance involves regulation and greater government involvement in failed measures such as "crop substitution" in coca-growing areas.
According to his most recent statement regarding the joint U.S.-Colombia counternarcotics efforts, Petro intends to "develop a new drug policy based on a new paradigm of regulation, the non-criminalization of peasant farmers, the subjugation of criminal, narcotrafficking organizations, the treatment of consumption as a public health issue, the substitution of illegal crops, (and) the fulfillment and deepening of the fourth point of the Peace Agreement."
The last point refers to the section on drugs that appears in the 2016 deal between a previous government and the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC), a communist guerrilla group that became one of the world's largest drug cartels in the early 2000s. The deal amnestied the FARC's leaders, who sit in Congress—unelected—since 2018. Unsurprisingly, they backed Petro's bid for the presidency.
While Petro boasts of new programs and paradigms of regulation, his stance on the country's drug issues is nothing new.
A chapter of the FARC deal titled "A Solution to the Problem of Illicit Drugs" amounts to several dozen pages of hot air that provide neither a concrete solution nor a serious diagnosis of the problem. It culminates with the toothless compromise to "make sure that the national territory remains free of illicit crops." There is talk of crop substitution and, as in Petro's campaign platform, an obtuse attempt to link the narcotics problem with a supposed need for drastic land reform. This is an old, leftist hobby horse in a country where some of the largest landholdings belong to indigenous reservations.
Beyond the rhetoric, any continuation of the current approach would be bad news for the American taxpayer. According to a 2021 Congressional Research Service report, since 2000, Washington had spent "about $12 billion in bilateral aid to implement Plan Colombia," a counternarcotics and counterterrorism program, "and its successor strategies."
Initially, the aid did help the Colombian military to severely weaken the once-formidable FARC. But Plan Colombia's anti-narcotics element was an unqualified failure. According to the United States Government Accountability Office, it sought "to reduce the production of illicit drugs (primarily cocaine) by 50 percent in six years." However, by 2006, "coca cultivation and cocaine production levels (had) increased by about 15 and 4 percent, respectively." In 2019, there were more hectares cultivated with coca leaf in Colombia (212,000) than two decades earlier (160,000).
The so-called FARC "dissidents," thousands of fighters who did not demobilize in 2016, still control large swathes of the cocaine business. They wage constant combat over production areas and export routes against other guerrilla groups and criminal organizations, including several with links to Mexican drug cartels. The deal that amnestied FARC leaders—with the full support of the Obama-Biden administration—was supposed to bring peace. Instead, it is again common to read headlines like, "War returns to Colombia's countryside."
The Biden administration seems oblivious to the drug trade's market dynamics. It touts its "New, Holistic U.S.-Colombia Counternarcotics Strategy," but, like past administrations, it assumes that the lethal mix of constant demand and prohibition is not the underlying problem. Rather, the White House maintains the futile and wasteful "drug supply reduction" approach.
During the last 30 years, Colombia's republican institutions did hold up against a series of violent, cocaine-funded threats that, besides the FARC and National Liberation Army guerrilla forces, included the Medellín and Cali cartels. Meanwhile, Colombia remained a liberal democracy and a close U.S. ally.
But Colombia can easily take an illiberal turn under Petro. He has stated that he will require far more than the constitutionally mandated four years to fulfill his political "project" as president. He has also threatened to expropriate particular businesses and individuals and intends to change the current constitution. Under "21st century socialism," Petro's Colombia may begin to resemble the undemocratic regimes of Cuba, Venezuela, and Nicaragua.
What should concern U.S. taxpayers the most is that President Joe Biden's Colombia strategy also involves "robust investment" in "comprehensive rural security and development." This is nation-building by another name, even if not as intense as that carried out in Central Asia and the Middle East over the last two decades. Colombia is far closer to home than Iraq or Afghanistan, but the lessons from the latter debacles still should apply to the Western Hemisphere.
If Colombia avoids a Caracas-style economic collapse during the next four years, it won't be due to counterproductive aid packages, let alone those that are tied to the drug war. Drug liberalization and U.S. market access would help the local industry and the country's economy immensely.
Opening the American market to the nascent, Latin American cannabis industry would create much-needed opportunities for investment and legal job creation. No amount of bilateral aid would help Colombia as much as a legal marijuana bonanza, with the original Santa Marta Gold being sold at your local dispensary.
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"President-elect Gustavo Petro could easily take Colombia in an illiberal direction."
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I'd agree with you OpenBorders, except I don't want to be paying for the welfare to support them until they learn English and learn enough to take care of themselves and contribute to society instead of partnering with the leeches in government looking to buy votes.
I'm OK with opening the borders to people, who are responsible enough to take care of themselves, don't harm others, and who believe in free minds and free markets. Many from Columbia that supported the Socialist would be bringing their failure to the USA, instead of being responsible for how they voted. If they take responsibility for how they voted, they'd take responsibility to get rid of who they elected instead of leaving the country.
No open borders, until we get rid of federal welfare. Doing so would make productive people want to live here, leaving the people who want to use the government to live off the labor of others to stay out of the USA. It's a win win for two groups of mostly good people (USA citizens and immigrants). And it gives socialists what they ask for as well, good and harder with the productive people leaving for where they are treated better.
It makes no sense that those, as in your example, fleeing Columbia are bringing a firm faith in socialism with them. Why would that be likely?
It makes no sense that those, as in your example, fleeing Columbia are bringing a firm faith in socialism with them. Why would that be likely?
It doesn't make sense, but it is nevertheless true. This is largely because the people fleeing socialism often do not line socialism's failures with socialism, instead resorting to claims like real socialism has never been tried. What I find interesting is when people who pretend to be against socialism argue from theory rather than reality whenever reality reflects negatively on the socialism they pretend to oppose.
Why would they do that?
I mean an entire party of this country has given them the excuse that it is America's fault their socialism failed due to US interventionist policies.
We even see that effect in microcosm, whenever leftists move to red states.
It's nothing new. But don't expect their apologists to get it.
But don't expect their apologists to get it.
I don't. Comments are not intended to convert leftists (who are impervious to reality). But there are many people of uncommitted political support who recognize the leftist worldview cannot be reconciled with reality. The goal of commenting, and of political writing generally, is to show this group how much the libertarian framework improves the human systems they live in. This is the inherent problem with leftism: that anyone who compares their beliefs to reality will recognize their assertions are absurd.
What we see is the “great sorting” where red states are getting more conservative as conservatives move to them.
And the blue states?
The exact technical term is Exodus. After Tilden won despite exclusion of unreconstructed States, and the 2000 mules overturned the election in exchange for unlimited Klan lynchings and Whites-Only elections, blacks moved to northern States in what--in the summer of 1880--congressmen called "the Exodus."
Not so fast! God's Own Prohibitionist party claims credit for exporting Christian racial eugenics drug laws to our Monroe Doctrine neighbors to make them good as ordained by Dry Hope Herbert Hoover. It is the preordained business cycle's fault that our godly asset-forfeiture coincided with their becoming poor, dissolute, uncovered wretches! By sheer coincidence, the slight crash and
depression that followed the Jones felony beer law and caused some economic distress here was also the business cycle's fault.
You are legitimately nuts.
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But what is his stance on asssex and trannies?
ENB, is that you?
You know, whenever I hear about some South American country turning communist or adopting a socially democratic form of government that provides services through progressive taxes ( but I repeat myself) I think to my self— geesch, Ali, why would any country adopt a system providing medical care to all and cradle-to-grave social security when instead they can have the same form of government that they have in the United States and it’s noted system that provides political harmony and social cohesion (https://www.healthdata.org/acting-data/gun-violence-united-states-outlier). Are they morons?
Yes, they usually are.
I’m sorry… My Black (and gay) ass doesn’t want to be lectured to on limited government by people who want that same government to force women to have a baby they don’t want.
I don’t want the government to force women to avoid abortions. I would love an amendment to the constitution explicitly giving us all privacy and bodily autonomy. The problem is socialists and communists wouldn’t go for it because that would imply self-ownership: a property right.
So leftists are in a fit after, having spent nearly a century destroying property rights, self-ownership, and bodily autonomy, that someone else has ideas about what you should do and would like to make policy out of it.
As a libertarian, I always thought we should have a system that respects individuality and autonomy, and lets people agree to disagree, by limiting the federal government and giving people freedom. But you idiots rejected that idea and prefer culture class war. You reap what you sow.
If you’d all had just listened yo me, none of this would have happened.
Even if we had a constitutional amendment granting bodily autonomy, the courts would, rightly, make exceptions for pandemics and other public health matters.
Public health matters like reproduce care? Do tell.
If you don’t want actual rights, then it’s silly to complain when they’re violated.
Mike Liarson is the most libertarian commentator here. Until you start talking about actual, specific policies. Then it all falls apart and she exposes herself as a lefty.
You’re the one saying “reproduce care”, whatever that is, is a public health matter.
I did not. I gave pandemic as my only example.
Point is, yo I shouldn’t be shocked when other people you share society with have their own reproductive health exceptions to bodily autonomy.
You clearly don’t believe in the idea in principle.
If you are referring to abortion, pure principle is never going to yield a clear answer: there are two bodies, linked together. It is impossible to find a solution in all scenarios where the autonomy of both is completely respected.
It is however very easy to judge the relative harms. One harm is death, while the other is a few months of required care after they voluntarily undertook an action which they knew could result in this circumstance: eight months of being pregnant, or death.
It seems to me essentially no one can honestly mistake which is worse.
You underestimate how disingenuous Dee can be for the sake of boaf sidez Marshal.
You underestimate how disingenuous Dee can be for the sake of boaf sidez Marshal.
Since I don't care a bit what Dee thinks I can't see how you conclude I "underestimate" it. If you think I expect to change her mind you're mistaken. The goal is to change the audience's mind, not the other party in the debate.
It was simply an insult about Dee’s hypocrisy, not a conclusion of your actual beliefs. Also for the audience.
Hahahahahahahahaha
The LP demanded a ban of pre-100-day prohibition of birth control in a country where some States had only recently repealed laws against condoms. No way was The Kleptocracy of Christ going to sit still for that--any more than the Night Riders sat still for black federal troops giving those "other persons" the idea that they too could become rights-exercising citizens under the 9th and 13th Amendments. Oh, and Colombia can hold as many elections as it wants, till some prohibitionist Biden and Trump like can be elected!
This was much better. C-
Yikes
“I follow a great German thinker. His name is Adolf Hitler,” he said in an interview with the RCN radio network in 2016, when he was mayor of Bucaramanga.
https://nationworldnews.com/5-controversies-of-rodolfo-hernandez/
Guess trump just needed to be openly pro drugs to pass Reasons baseline levels for endorsement.
Legal weed, hookers, ass sex and Aktion T4 is the definition of TeenReason libertarianism.
That freedom of speech and civil liberties stuff can go fuck itself.
Nobody needs 23 kinds of liberties.
On Friday, my Black ass was in Capitol Hill where I bravely confronted the Deep State informing them about the Jan 6th hoax.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/24/politics/stop-the-steal-ali-alexander-testifies-january-6-grand-jury/index.html
Won’t you give a donation to my givesendgo account (Christian money lending) so I can continue to support the GOP Proud and Libertarian (but I repeat myself) agenda supported by Caitlin and Milo?
“supported by Caitlin and Milo?”
If I go read some obscure Twitter accounts for an hour, will your parody become understandable?
No.
Shrike doesn't even really understand it himself.
There’s your problem right there. You are on Twitter— a noted fascist organization and arm of the NSA.
Bolshevik’s call everyone they hate “fascists” going back to WW1, even people thrown in the gulag for thinking unapproved thoughts. The Bolsheviks invented the phrase “concentration camp” as a good, new, progressive idea. The Nazis just borrowed it.
As a GOP-proud black man are you proud of Donald Trump for his quick denunciation of Rep. Mary Miller for her statement that the overturning of Roe v Wade is a victory for “white life”?
You're almost as bad as shrike at this.
It's like watching a school play put on by the special needs class.
So the Crispin glover movie "its fine everything is fine"?
She clearly meant to say “right to life.” Leftists love false accusations of racism.
If it is so clear, why did she stand back and accept the applause instead of correcting her words right then and there? What mindset did she have that led to this Freudian slip?
Because the crowd isn't s fucking idiot and understood what she was intending to say. It wasn't an audience full of leftist hacks trying to attack her?
Fake racism accusations don’t need any justification.
Calling this incident “fake” is the equivalent of sticking one’s fingers in one’s ears and going, “La la la la..”
It actually happened, therefore it is not fake.
It’s a fake accusation of racism. I’m sorry but “event happened, and I desperately want it to be racism” is not the bar for a real accusation of racism.
Pure denial.
Find a good argument, and stop looking for fake racists under every bed. Life is too important to base policy on paranoid delusions.
Here is a good argument: it’s on video, she said it.
Cite?
Also, where is Trump’s statement distancing himself from the remark?
There’s really no responsibility on anyone to respond to fake accusations of racism from leftist
True. But what about a responsibility when it is not fake, such as this incident.
Why do they call Mike a leftist? Refuses any explanation on misspeaking here. Asks when Clarence Thomas was ever called names below.
https://twitter.com/wrong_speak/status/1541091477295693825?t=jbpXnKDpYmAe--5juLutaw&s=19
1. They = White Progressive Elitists
2. It's not one comment. Check my timeline. I've been at it all weekend.
3. "Uncle Clarence" was trending on Twitter yesterday. Do you think that was all black people? I know it wasn't.
If you’re going to live in fake accusation leftist liar town, go ahead, but I’m not coming for a vacation.
Mike Liarson is a squawking bird named Dee and should be treated as such.
Even if she misspoke, the two most important takeaways are that the MAGA crowd applauded the statement while Trump looked on approvingly, and that he hasn’t distanced himself from her words.
Or perhaps they understood the statement as understood in context.
Because people aren't idiots, and they aren't racists. They understand that people stumble over words in live performances. In fact, it's a known phenomenon that people will auto-correct mentally to more appropriate responses when a mistake is heard.
She clearly meant to say “right to life.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/rep-miller-thanks-trump-victory-white-life-campaign-says-misread-remar-rcna35359
She SAID "white life".
So let's play along with the psychotic leftists and treat their pathological, malicious dishonesty as if it were legitimate for a moment.
"Thanks for saving white life"
Why do you, collectivistjeff leftist hivemind, find that statement objectionable?
White people are never allowed to have racial pride, only guilt for the things they aren't responsible for.
That's the only way it's objectionable given identitarian politics are dominant on the left.
At least that’s no a denial that she said it.
What she said doesn’t make sense as a mere statement of white pride. It only makes sense as her alluding to replacement theory. In which case, she is talking racial conflict or competition, not merely racial pride.
Dee knows what everyone on the right is thinking.
Setting aside the context that there are people who promote black pride and Latino pride, and so on, which is also silly, “white pride” considered in isolation is just dumb — being white is being proud of a lack of melatonin in one’s skin and maybe a certain bone structure; it’s not even an ethnicity, nor a national culture, or anything of real substance.
If I tell you my honest answer, will you promise not to murder me?
You're just a clump of cells, not a person, thus you cannot be murdered.
But we do recognize your pathetic avoidance of the question.
It’s funny, he said that, as if he’s capable of giving an honest answer then.
He's too stupid and psychotic to understand how consistently dishonest he is.
She SAID "white life".
The double standard is revealing. What she said is no different than black lives matter, except she claims to have misspoken. But millions of people say black lives matter completely without equivocation. Even if you presume she meant exactly what she said her comment is no different than BLM. But left wingers pretend her comment is egregious racism even as they support others saying BLM.
It's almost like leftists have no standards and judge every statement solely by whether they are political allies of the speaker or not.
She obviously meant "A wight to wife."
Obviously.
Something Thomas believes in.
Listen, as a gay and Black man who is GOP Proud like Milo and Caitlin I get most of my donations from White Supremacists, who now bankroll Black men like me so they can own the libs. So, whatever they say pretty much goes for my Black ass.
Now now, you know the rules.
Republican speech must be given the benefit of the doubt.
Democratic speech must be given the worst possible interpretation.
Also applies to mishaps such as falling off a bike vs walking feebly on a wet ramp.
You see, when Biden said "We have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics”, what he clearly meant was that he was planning on widespread voter fraud to steal the election away from Trump and he was so brazen about it that he decided to telegraph to the world publicly that this is what he was planning.
The leftist are all teaming up this morning.
Weren't you embarrassed enough defending Bidens gun control yesterday jeff?
There we go, illustrating exactly what I am talking about below.
In your mind, giving a fair reading to Biden's statements means "defending Bidens gun control".
I gave you a direct quote where he called for banning 9mm pistols lol.
You do understand that disagreeing over what Biden precisely meant, is not the same as defending his policy, right?
Imagine being such a dishonest hypocrite to play this game today after this yesterday.
https://reason.com/2022/06/25/seaweed-is-a-promising-food-tangled-in-regulations/?comments=true#comment-9564276
Yesterday was hilarious.
Yup. Right on cue, you knee-jerk defended MTG and Team Red, while in the same discussion, continued to give Team Blue the worst possible interpretation.
When someone on Team Red says something, their words are to be given the most charitable explanation.
When someone on Team Blue says something, their words are to be given the worst possible explanation.
That is you, Jesse. Just own up to it.
That would require honesty.
Jeff has never been honest. Probably why you team with him now lol.
jeff is more honest than you, and I'm not teaming up with anyone. So you just lied twice. Too funny.
No. I posted her full quote while you denied multiple quotes from Biden. Lol.
And you chose to defend him removing a liberty/right while you attacked the one asking to maintain those rights. Totally libertarian there buddy.
Yup. Right on cue, you knee-jerk defended MTG and Team Red, while in the same discussion, continued to give Team Blue the worst possible interpretation.
It's revealing CJ critiiczes this framework since it perfectly describes him, in reverse, on literally every thread he's ever contributed to.
Standards are those things left wingers apply to other people. Everyone knows they are never to be applied to leftists.
Wow. He actually tried to jump back in to defend himself and then sarc joined him?
How fucking embarrassing for both of them.
What are you lying about this time?
The link is posted you retarded dishonest fuck.
The link where that dumbass hickock45, and he must be a total retard because he disagrees with you, says you don't need to spend a grand on a decent deer rifle?
Note CJ is making the opposite assertion to reality. He's claiming we have to accept Biden's statement as misspeaking and not hold him to his words, but he also denies we should accept this woman's comments as misspeaking and should hold her to her words. Apparently his practice of applying different standards is so ingrained he cannot even recognize when he's doing it.
https://reason.com/2022/06/26/colombia-could-have-had-a-coke-legalizing-tiktok-famous-president-they-elected-a-socialist-instead/?comments=true#comment-9565237
chemjeff radical individualist
June.26.2022 at 1:40 pm
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For the record I am in the second category. I think the most plausible explanation is that she stumbled over some words on a teleprompter. But I'm not certain, and furthermore it's a very stupid thing to get all worked up about.
Oops
I'll accept your apology now
Apologies only come from men who are man enough to admit to being wrong. We know who that excludes.
And how many comments do you have here attacking her for the comments dummy?
Are you even self aware?
chemjeff radical individualist
June.26.2022 at 12:07 pm
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She clearly meant to say “right to life.”
She SAID "white life".
Yep, you hold her to her words, then you try to backtrack later when you realize you accidentally revealed yourself.
When someone you like says something and then changes it, they're clarifying.
When someone you don't like does the exact same thing, they're back-peddling.
Principles shminciples. Judge the person, not what they say.
Amiright?
Judge the person, not what they say.
Is this an accurate description of someone who says something ten thousand times and then once says something not exactly contradictory but intentionally evasive? Or is it judging the consistently asserted principle and ignoring their effort to avoid the consequences of their asserted principles?
We know. And if you were honest you would too.
I'm not sure what that word salad meant. Sounded like you don't need to hear what someone says. You can just say it for them. And if what they say doesn't agree with what you say they say, then they are lying.
Is that about it?
I'm not sure what that word salad meant. Sounded like ...
This is code for "I'm just going to make up what I wish were true because replying to what you actually said doesn't make my point.
The JesseAz version:
When someone says nothing about a topic you like, you say "You never praised XYZ! That means you hate it! Prove you don't! You're back peddling!"
Similarly when someone says nothing about a topic you don't like, you say "You never condemned XYZ! That means you support it! Prove you don't! You're back peddling!"
Wash, rinse, repeat.
Marshal, it is an empirical fact that she said "white life". True or False?
And then, I said that I accepted her explanation that it wasn't what she intended to say. I said so BEFORE you said of me, "he also denies we should accept this woman's comments as misspeaking and should hold her to her words." You lied about me and now you are trying to pretend to read my mind in order to avoid admitting your culpability. Be a man and just own up to your mistake.
you are trying to pretend to read my mind
It's revealing you must pretend my quoting you is "reading your mind" in order for this to be true. You will believe whatever is necessary to maintain your self image.
The attempted mindreading part is when you claimed:
"then you try to backtrack later when you realize you accidentally revealed yourself."
So your two options are:
1. Admit that you were wrong about me
2. Pretend to read my mind to discover my "true motivations"
You chose #2 over #1
So your two options are:
The fact that you omit one of the options is concluding your first statement is indicative of what you meant, since your second was only in response to criticism, shows your continued and complete dishonesty.
since your second was only in response to criticism
lol you criticized me AFTER I posted my statement
Jeffy has historically been a disingenuous shitweasel.
I mean, you two chuckleheads constantly give Democrats the benefit of the doubt and reflexively condemn anything someone to the right of Rachel Maddow says out of hand, so I find it hilarious that you’re upset that other people do the same thing.
(For the record, if she did mean white life, I don’t agree with saying it, but she’s technically correct since white people are the largest group of abortion getters, by shear numbers.)
so I find it hilarious that you’re upset that other people do the same thing.
Just as long as we're clear about what is going on here.
There are people who think she really meant to say "white life" because she's a white supremacist racist.
Then there are people who think she probably meant to say "right to life", but can't be 100% sure.
Then, there are people like Brian, who are ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that she meant to say "right to life" and if you disagree you're a leftist asshole making unjustified racist accusations. Even though her own plainly spoken words are "white life" and to be *absolutely certain* that she meant to say "right to life" requires mind-reading powers.
For the record I am in the second category. I think the most plausible explanation is that she stumbled over some words on a teleprompter. But I'm not certain, and furthermore it's a very stupid thing to get all worked up about.
And, you'll note that when I advocate for a fair-minded reading of what some Democrat says, instead of the worst-possible paranoid reading, I am always clear to say "this is what I believe to be a fairer representation of what this person said". I don't declare with some absolute certainty that the best-faith reading is the only possible one.
Unlike certain people around here (ahem Jesse), who when presented with a vague statement from Biden concerning guns, declare with absolute certainty that it means he wants to ban all 9mm handguns and if you disagree it means you love Biden and hate the Second Amendment and usher in a fascist regime of gun confisciation.
For the record, the most generous I can be is to considerate it a Freudian slip on her part. The more serious problem is that the MAGA audience applauded it, Trump smirked approvingly, she made no effort until the next day to walk it back, and, most critically, Trump hasn’t distanced himself from the remark.
The more serious problem is that the MAGA audience applauded it,
Millions of people cheer BLM, and most importantly you advance exactly zero criticism of them. It sure is a wonder how people recognize you as a leftist when you blow your cover so routinely.
Do you want to hear my lecture on mental auto-correction? People hear what they want to hear all the time. Add in feedback, background noise, and other stuff, and live speeches have almost ludicrously bad sound quality, which means people have to correct what they hear a lot more.
Since you are getting the microphone feed directly, you can hear much better than anyone actually present
“most critically, Trump hasn’t distanced himself from the remark.”
Only reason could ignore many of Hernandez's ills that are widely written about to write a smear against the socialist candidate.
Maybe try writing anything of substance next time. Or any time really.
I’m sure he was quite the hoarder and wrecker.
Poor Tony.
Actually most sane and reasonable people who are even somewhat educated can write long articles in regards to why socialism is bad.
Did he send mean tweets?
Socialist candidates don't need smearing. All one needs to do is show the results of socialism in practice. Unless telling the truth is a smear.
Waitaminnit. You mean BOTH Christian Hitlerite national socialists and lay Stalinist Soviet socialists?! That leaves nothing in the mixed-economy universe of discourse except thought-criminals and unpersons.
Literally anything is better than a socialist so it makes sense.
Socialist shit stains should always be smeared.
Best to scrape them off.
I'm sure things will work out fine as long as the United States keeps sending them big bags of money and advisors to tell them how to spend the money. We're very good at telling everybody else how to run their countries.
...into the ground.
Se obtene el gobierno se merece.
Please tell me this is faked. It is just too perfect an example of saying the quiet part out loud:
“MAGA Rep. Mary Miller Thanks Trump for Giving ‘White Life’ a Win”
https://www.thedailybeast.com/maga-rep-mary-miller-thanks-trump-for-giving-white-life-a-win?source=cheats&via=rss
It doesn’t even make sense logically, since it’s not just white babies who would be saved from abortion. (Well, it doesn’t make sense logically, because women are still going to have abortions, just more clandestine.)
Kudos to Trump for his quick denunciation of Rep. Miller as a blatant racist.
Weird you chose this quote instead of the dozens of democrats and leftists talking about how lack of abortion would hurt black people the most as they use abortion the most.
When your only tool is the "racist!" hammer...
What’s appalling is all the white liberals who think Clarence Thomas gives them cover for using the ‘N’ word now.
Can you cite an example?
Check yesterday's sea weed article. The comment section you were in.
What is this by the way? Racist attacks against Thomas have been going on since he was nominated. Samuel L Jackson just called him Uncle Clarence yesterday.
Are you this fucking ignorant?
Left-wing pollster John Corbett calls Justice Thomas the N-word on Twitter
https://thepostmillennial.com/left-wing-pollster-john-corbett-calls-justice-thomas-the-n-word-on-twitter
https://twitter.com/cliftonaduncan/status/1540806230679212032?t=tZoGFZITbxrD97Sm1t4lbA&s=19
They can't help themselves
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https://twitter.com/cliftonaduncan/status/1540934863280377857?t=6nr1Fwd3BuIP3wQkh1RtmA&s=19
You just know most of the people calling Clarence Thomas "Nigger" have a "Hate has no home here" sign on their lawn
Thank you. Acknowledged on my part that one white liberal called Thomas a “nigger”. That’s pretty fucked up.
Why do they call Mike a leftist? He thinks only one leftist has attacked Clarence Thomas woth racist statements.
How about multiple?
https://twitter.com/drantbradley/status/1540821429771436033?s=21&t=oTOzqvBTTotrtyB1T8w0fg
John P. Cummings is black. Falcey doesn’t have a profile picture or any bio info that indicates he is a white liberal.
Clean your own house before you go around worrying about fake racists and false accusations. Otherwise, I can’t take you seriously.
My own house? What house do you think I’m in?
I am an independent libertarian who doesn’t support either Team Red nor Team Blue.
You don’t seem to think very independently.
Meaning I’m not in denial about the Republican Party or Democratic Party.
Making accusations of racism and demanding answers over a woman misspeaking the word “white” for “right” seems like petty bullshit daily rage from the left.
But you to be independent.
Nobody believes this Dee.
Good observation Brian. Anyone who questions the right or makes fun of the right is a devout leftist. There is no other possible explanation. Libertarians do not exist because they question the right. That means they're leftists.
Meaning I’m not in denial about the Republican Party or Democratic Party.
Lol
Accusations of racism are not “fun”.
If you want to make fun of the right, go ahead.
Here’s another hit from Joe Biden. Notice I don’t accuse him of hating America over it.
https://youtu.be/DvA-Vf0MomM
Joe Biden: America is a nation they can be defined in a single word: “ASUFUTIMAEHAEHFUTBW.”
I am an independent libertarian who doesn’t support either Team Red nor Team Blue.
Sure, lots of libertarians cite left wing talking points verbatim.
Where did I “demand answers” or express any rage?
And I don’t consider this matter to be fun, either. A speaker at a MAGA rally said something clearly racist (whether she misspoke or not) and the audience applauded her.
"Sure, lots of libertarians cite left wing talking points verbatim."
I used to (I say "used to" because the post-Trump right openly opposes economic liberty) joke that the right gives lip service to economic liberty while being openly hostile to personal liberty, and the left gives lip service to personal liberty while being openly hostile to economic liberty.
That means the the right hates libertarians for supporting personal liberty, and left (and the post-Trump right) hate libertarians for supporting economic liberty.
That means the the right hates libertarians for supporting personal liberty, and left (and the post-Trump right) hate libertarians for supporting economic liberty.That means the the right hates libertarians for supporting personal liberty, and left (and the post-Trump right) hate libertarians for supporting economic liberty.
This may be somewhat true of each side that actively opposes libertarians. But the key difference is that is describes nearly all the left and maybe 20% of the right.
Black people can't be racist!!!!!
You’re a real piece of work Mikey.
Or Larry elders campaign to be governer.
What’s appalling is all the white liberals who think Clarence Thomas gives them cover for using the ‘N’ word now.
That makes sense. True black people are Democrats. Blacks who aren't Democrats are traitors to their race. It's right there on their birth certificates. Black = Democrat. So of course white liberals are going to get away with calling conservative blacks every name in the book. Jeez.
Mike Liarson will be along shortly to question this. Haha no I’m just kidding, he’ll let this comment slide.
I mean sarc once said all racists wore red hats implying racism is only of the right. And is now joining Mike and Jeff above.
And the child porn distributor. He's a welcome member of their team too.
I've never said anything of the sort. I maintain that the left is engaging in doublethink when they claim to support racial equality while insisting that certain people can't accomplish things without special government privileges based upon skin color.
Try telling the truth for once.
Here is you actually being racist.
sarcasmic
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Ever seen a black Mexican?
Me neither.
Here is you claiming it is only the right.
sarcasmic
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Show me a racist Good 'ol Boy and I'll show you a red hat.
How do you lie so easily?
He pretends that you linking it is you making it up.
I remember that thread.
"Some x do y" does not imply "All y are x."
That is a total logic fail. Embarrassing.
Pointing out the fact that many Mexicans don't like blacks is me being racist? Again, embarrassing logic fail.
Are you going to admit that you're wrong, and your interpretation of what I said is either a logical failure or a deliberate lie?
HAAAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA! JESSEAZ ADMIT TO BEING WRONG?? HAAAAA HA HA HA HA! Whew! I'm out of breath!
Save that one, please. Show it off often, so I can point out how utterly retarded you are with logic. That or dishonest. With you I can never tell.
Do I have to check some obscure Twitter page to figure out what you are talking about? Sorry, as a gay, Black man who is GOP Proud like Caitlin and Milo I’m only on Gab and take donations on the Christian lending site, givesendgo. Won’t you make a contribution to combat the Jan 6th hoax?
and? who cares?
How does this is any impact one's views on abortion, Roe v Wade, federalism,etc?
It doesn’t even make sense logically,
It makes perfect sense. Because of BLM, you can't just say something about all generic lives. You have to specifically delineate across different categories of lives based on ethnicity. Saying "all lives matter" is a racist and awful thing to do. Same goes for pro-life assertions about the future of non-aborted babies. one must delineate between white, black, blue, red, green, yellow, purple babies.
So, saying this is good for "white lives" is just the same and no worse or better than all the statements about how this is going to be hard on "black and BIPOC women" or how "black babies" are disproportionately aborted currently. It's so simple really.
I’m sure Jeffsarcdee disavowed BLM claiming “all lives matter” is racist. Just sure of it.
I once saw a stat from the CDC that said there were 500 abortions per 1000 live births for blacks. I mean, that's about the line where you start throwing around words like "genocide" to describe it.
This is an outrage. Abortion protestor was charged with attempted murder of an officer for using a flamethrower on him. How is this worse than assault fire extinguishers or injecting officers with stress to trigger strokes? I demand this mostly peaceful protestor to be released abd paid millions of dollars for this outrage.
Ortiz was allegedly among those members and stands accused of throwing a makeshift flamethrower at an officer, who had to be treated for burns. He was charged with the attempted murder of a police officer, KTLA reported.
But flames are mostly peaceful. Have you never relaxed in front of a fire?
He was trying to just give the officer a lovely s'more.
Now I understand why they’re allowed to have bricks at their protests, so they can build a hearth!
Flame thrower = Mostly peaceful
Fire extinguishers = WMDs
Geez, don't you guys know how to woke?
South Americans remain socialist hellholes you say?
Did the sun rise in the east?
But somehow that is the fault of evil American capitalists.
Give them unlimited refuge status! /Fiona
Socialist hellholes were Herbert Hoover's idea of "good neighbors." For a while, capitalistic free-trading producers were hunting down communist "terrists." Biden and Kerry, trying to outdo Reagan, Dennis DeConcini and Rudy Giuliani in prohibitionist foaming, snarling and carpetbiting decided that communists were preferable to laissez-faire free-traders. Every economy in Latin America became a disaster area. Yet to Republicans, all this is God's will writ into the mysteries of the "business cycle."
Blaming Putin for inflation isn't working. Anyone have any ideas? Yes Axios?
Axios channeling “experts” is promoting the Supreme Court’s abortion ruling as the cause of future economic troubles:
“Experts warned that the U.S. will see devastating economic consequences from the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.”
Ha. Now they care about economic conditions.
Yes, all those children being born who will grow up to pay Social Security and Medicare premiums to support retirees, and income taxes to pay government retiree pensions will really wreck the economy.
Gee, we had a pretty darn good POTUS, and then elected some socialist douche, too.
Perhaps “coke legalizing, TikTok famous” isn’t as appealing to regular voters in a drug ravaged, failing nation.
There might be a lesson here for libertarians.
When things are bad, voters choose the worst candidate possible?
Yeah, that kind of stupid, snarky response and lack of understanding of how real societies function is why the LP keeps failing. Thanks for the illustration.
Note to foreign readers: almost no Reason subscribers have ever personally witnessed a South American polling place.
you mean drug war ravaged
Nardz
June.26.2022 at 10:40 am
The greenies are 100% committed to destroying the US and ushering in totalitarianism. They don't give a damn about the environment or climate.
32% of 0.04% is the anthropogenic Co2 contribution to the atmosphere. They are using that (maximum) 0.01% impact as an excuse to destroy the middle, working, small business class.
It's absolutely a crime against humanity and outright tyranny. We have greater justification to revolt than the French did when they beheaded thousands.
Nardz
June.26.2022 at 10:49 am
Further, atmospheric Co2 is around 400 ppm now. That isn't high. Plant life begins to die off globally if it drops to 180 ppm.
There has been a roughly 1° Celsius temperature rise since the start of recorded temperatures 200 years ago... which was in the middle of the "Little Ice Age" and was a time of widespread human struggle and suffering.
Life thrives in warmth, including human life, and dies in cold. We can look back to numerous examples throughout human history to see this demonstrated. A rise in temperature, coming out of a fucking Ice Age, would be a good thing.
Stop taking the climate change pushers at face value. They are malicious liars whose motivation is the exact opposite of what's claimed. Generations of brainwashing make it difficult, but we have to stop pretending that mankind has any ability to control our climate. At best we can hope that the Sun continues putting out a relatively steady amount of energy, since that is 99.9% responsible for our conditions.
Reject progressive hubris
Reject progressive hubris
What about conservative hubris?
I agree that there is a great deal of hubris involved in the idea that human beings have the ability to "fix" the climate.
But it is also the case that there is a great deal of hubris involved in the idea that human beings can do anything they want to the environment with no repercussions at all.
How about this. Let empirical observations guide our decision-making and voluntarily urge people to make responsible choices in their lives.
But it is also the case that there is a great deal of hubris involved in the idea that human beings can do anything they want to the environment with no repercussions at all.
Good thing no one is arguing that.
But it is also the case that there is a great deal of hubris involved in the idea that human beings can do anything they want to the environment with no repercussions at all.
Who said this? Cite? Why do feel a need to create strawman arguments for your enemies when defending your team?
Why do feel a need to create strawman arguments
lol look in the mirror pal
Do you have a cite of me creating a strawman? Notice the number of people who called out your bullshit?
Here's an example of Jesse creating a strawman. Just one of thousands.
https://reason.com/2022/06/26/colombia-could-have-had-a-coke-legalizing-tiktok-famous-president-they-elected-a-socialist-instead/?comments=true#comment-9565139
Here is the quote jeff posted.
JesseAz
June.26.2022 at 12:33 pm
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The leftist are all teaming up this morning.
Weren't you embarrassed enough defending Bidens gun control yesterday jeff?
Where is the strawman argument jeff? The post yesterday was linked lol.
God damn. Are you as retarded as sarc?
Here is the strawman Jesse, where you claimed I "defending Bidens gun control"
Reject progressive hubris
What about conservative hubris?
It seems like just yesterday when CJ was criticizing others for their whataboutism. Oh, it was.
It's not surprising he fails the standards he applies to others since he invents standards only to attack others rather than developing them from principles.
Like most of the leftists here he is a huge hypocrite.
Which conservative is advocating for this? Genuinely curious so I can call that person a moron.
Oh. well. Then please tell me what is the conservative position on climate change. Because from where I sit, it seems a lot like "deny it is occurring".
Do you have a citation?
chemjeff radical individualist
June.23.2022 at 12:54 pm
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Fuck you and your demand for citations.
Yes. Youre a hypocrite. Lol. You always demand citations then refuse to provide your own.
Denying anthropogenic climate change happening is quite a bit different than “human beings can do anything they want to the environment with no repercussions at all.”.
What is absolutely in dispute is how much, if any, is human CO2 output actually affecting it. The conservative position seems to be “humans aren’t having any real affect on climate change, but even if we were, fuck the libs and whatever stupid policy they want to try and force on us.”
And make no mistake, their policies are fucking stupid, collectivist bullshit.
And the conservative argument for over a decade is that the climate always changes, we don't need to transform society to account for it. Human adaptation is real.
I see. So the conservative argument is that human beings can do whatever they want, deny that it has an effect on the climate, oppose leftwing efforts to mitigate climate change, and offer no plan of their own on how to mitigate climate change. Sure sounds like my initial assessment was close to the mark.
0.01% is the maximum amount humans can impact the atmosphere.
You continuing to breathe is proof that your professed concern is entirely disingenuous.
That’s not what I said. Like at all.
Umm, it kinda is. They are having an effect on the climate, denying that it does, and using that denial to justify not doing anything about it.
Except it’s not. Because, again, saying that climate change isn’t man made (talk about the fucking hubris to claim it’s our fault) isn’t the same as saying humans can do whatever they want consequence free.
And again, even if someone were to grant the premise that it IS our fault, “doing something about it” doesn’t require government force or collectivism, which are the only solutions the left ever offers.
“and offer no plan of their own on how to mitigate climate change.” So I guess you suffer from the same hubris you said the left does. And I’ll note, that’s the same bullshit that Democrats slung around whenever Republicans were trying to repeal Obamacare.
Except it’s not. Because, again, saying that climate change isn’t man made (talk about the fucking hubris to claim it’s our fault) isn’t the same as saying humans can do whatever they want consequence free.
Well I think the science is pretty clear that climate change is at least partially our fault.
And it is a distinction without a difference, between "I can do whatever I want consequence-free", and "Sure, I'll fix what I have an obligation to fix, but you have to prove to me it's my fault, and there is no way you can ever prove to me that it's my fault, so I will continue breaking things".
And again, even if someone were to grant the premise that it IS our fault, “doing something about it” doesn’t require government force or collectivism, which are the only solutions the left ever offers.
You're right, it doesn't. So are they saying, hey, go recycle? Get a hybrid vehicle? Install solar panels? From where I sit, Team Red is more invested in mocking people who get hybrids than actually getting one of their own, let alone advocating that others do. And let's not forget that Republicans are not libertarians, they have no problems using government force when they feel inclined to do so.
“and offer no plan of their own on how to mitigate climate change.” So I guess you suffer from the same hubris you said the left does.
The "progressive hubris" is that we can "fix the climate". No, we can't fix the climate. It is far too complex for that. But we can identify specific areas where we are reasonably certain we have affected the climate for the worse, and do what we can to ameliorate that.
And I’ll note, that’s the same bullshit that Democrats slung around whenever Republicans were trying to repeal Obamacare.
Once again, Republicans are not libertarians. For all their talk of "get government out of health care", we know that is only campaign rhetoric. And yes Democrats accused Republicans of not having a plan, that is true. But, it is not an unreasonable criticism - if you're going to criticize a plan, it would be helpful to offer an alternative plan, so that voters can choose between competing plans.
There is no conservative hubris. They don't believe that their beliefs are supreme.
But they are completely correct that they are better than their opponents.
“They don't believe that their beliefs are supreme.”
Many conservatives believe their political stances come directly from Jesus. That’s pretty supreme.
Many conservatives believe their political stances come directly from Jesus.
Dozens, at least. What a fool.
Even then, it doesn't matter if they believe their beliefs come from the bible. What matters is if they try to make all others live by it.
Not even in abortion does that apply.
It applies in some of the 50 states. There are absolutely a few states where Christian conservatives are using force of government to impose their political views, which are rooted in their religious beliefs.
which are rooted in their religious beliefs.
Framing the debate as religious instead of a conflict of when the baby's life is worthy of protection is dishonest framing to delegitimize their opposition in lieu of making a rational argument. It's yet another trademark of left wingers as opposed to libertarians.
Well, lucky then that that's not the conservative or libertarian idea.
Progressive and Democratic climate policy is absurdly irrational: it will do nothing to stop climate change, but it will condemn billions to poverty.
The rational policy on climate change is to keep using fossil fuels as an engine of economic development and then deal with the effects of climate change as they happen. That is rational not only according to conservatives and libertarians, it's the conclusion from Obama's own climate change experts (I'm citing Obama given that you probably don't believe the experts under Trump).
“But it is also the case that there is a great deal of hubris involved in the idea that human beings can do anything they want to the environment with no repercussions at all.”
Cite?
chemjeff radical individualist
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Fuck you and your demand for citations.
Yup. Jesse is not worth the trouble of a citation.
Except half a dozen people just called you out on this bullshit Lying Jeffy.
Thats the hilarious part. But the retard fuck is so delusional he refuses to notice it.
Let's not forget, the Jesse standard of argumentation is:
Step 1: Make a claim
Step 2: Make everyone else get citations to disprove that claim
Literally just did this above, Lying Jeffy.
https://reason.com/2022/06/26/colombia-could-have-had-a-coke-legalizing-tiktok-famous-president-they-elected-a-socialist-instead/?comments=true#comment-9565211
Jeff. Do you know where the meme at this website for citations came from?
It is making fun of you and Mike asking for citations on common knowledge or then denying the citation when provided. It is literally people making fun of you two.
So once again, you demonstrate you are not worth the trouble of a citation.
Cite?
http://www.fuckoffJesse.com
Lol. Jeff is spiraling again. So broken.
lol
If he asserts something about you the burden of proof is on you to refute it.
You can't say anything about him unless you have a "statement of belief" on record.
Jesse, why don't you link to the entire discussion where that quote came from? Hmm?
The one where you broke down? Sure. Nothing to hide here. You looked full on fucking retarded in that round up. Full melt down.
It literally begins with you making up a strawman about me and being a hypocrite with actions you claimed I do.
Here is the start.
https://reason.com/2022/06/23/boycotts-arent-protected-speech-rules-appeals-court/?comments=true#comment-9557508
You look terrible im that entire thread lol.
That entire discussion is me imposing your own standards on you. And you complaining about it.
Your standard of argumentation is to make a claim, and then try to force everyone else to disprove that claim.
Unsurprisingly you don't like it when your own standards are applied to yourself.
Unsurprisingly you don't like it when your own standards are applied to yourself.
A revealing complaint from someone who fails every standard he criticizes others by. That's why he continually attacks without responding, he knows he can't defend his double standards so he just moves on to the next attack.
That's why he continually attacks without responding, he knows he can't defend his double standards so he just moves on to the next attack.
lol you have just described Jesse's entire MO
lol you have just described Jesse's entire MO
Given how much you hate Jesse it must feel great admitting you're just like him. So congratulations.
oh no I am way better than Jesse.
I am not a saint, I am biased like everyone else. But at least I make an effort to prove my claims and I have a greater awareness of responsible media literacy other than "stuff from my tribe's media outlets is automatically true".
I have a greater awareness of responsible media literacy other than "stuff from my tribe's media outlets is automatically true".
Among your many thousands of comments literally zero demonstrated this. In fact your only contribution is a constant stream of transparent lies to attack the extreme left's enemies. This is how allies support each other.
haha I am not the one perpetually citing The Federalist or the Washington Examiner as automatically true
Jeff you didnt prove anything in that thread. Lol. Holy shit.
I actually post your past comments retard. You just make shit up.
Cite me claiming any argument is true solely because of the site they were posted on?
Remember. You were the retard fuck who dismissed multiple studies, even from the CDC, and dismissed 2 different extremely well cited doctors (one of which was on the executive covid panel) for the sole reason they were on Joe Rogan despite both doctors citing peer reviewed research. Lol.
Cite me claiming any argument is true solely because of the site they were posted on?
What you do, Jesse, is you post some article from some right-wing site, I point out how the article is misrepresenting the truth, then you will continue to argue with me forever about it, never acknowledging that the article that you cited is at best misleading, and at worst outright lying.
The article on the Fairfax County school board changing its policy regarding "deadnaming" transgender students is a perfect example. You cite right-wing article after article claiming that the school board wants to suspend kids for "deadnaming" transgender students. I point out that you are misrepresenting the truth. And you will never acknowledge it. As Marshal said, whenever I offer any criticism, you ignore it and just move on to the next attack, or you offer some bullshit whataboutism, or some strawman, or other such nonsense. But you do not respond in good faith nor acknowledge the validity of the criticism.
You push right-wing narratives and you push back against any criticism of those narratives, even valid criticism.
and dismissed 2 different extremely well cited doctors (one of which was on the executive covid panel) for the sole reason they were on Joe Rogan despite both doctors citing peer reviewed research. Lol.
And here is an example of you burning a strawman. I never dismissed doctors ONLY because they appeared on Joe Rogan. I questioned whether their claims should be accepted as the scientific consensus on the matter.
So you admit the entire thread is you being a hypocrite and lying about me. Hilarious.
You did exactly what I thought you would do. Give Team Red the benefit of the doubt, while give Team Blue the worst possible interpretation.
Jesse do you have any concept of what proper standards of argumentation are? Do you understand any concept relating to burden of proof? Do you have any understanding of media literacy?
Here is some free advice.
1. If a claim comes from a right-wing website, that does not automatically mean it is true.
2. If a person makes a claim, the burden of proof is on that person to prove the claim. The burden of proof is not on everyone else to disprove that claim.
1. Cite me ever doing this. If you notice I post articles that have citations or direct statements. Not pure opinion pieces. Whereas you dismiss information solely because they are from sites you dislike.
2. You just said I provided citations while you tell people to fuck off about citations.
God damn jeff. You truly are a retarded person filled with self delusion. 2 literally contradicts 1 in your attempted attack. Fucking hilarious.
If you notice I post articles that have citations or direct statements. Not pure opinion pieces.
Oh this is very much a lie. Every time you cite The Federalist, which is often, you are citing an opinion piece. Do you even realize that?
2. You just said I provided citations while you tell people to fuck off about citations.
I tell YOU to fuck off about citations. I don't tell "people" that. Just you.
And no, you frequently ignore your responsibility to prove your own claims.
You do it to me all the time... and R Mac... and Paul, and Nardz, and Ken, and Kuckland, and DesigNate and I could list others for hours.
If I was at my computer I could link to a post of yours where you explicitly say that you're not going to look at any citations I provided, despite the fact that they were all from mainstream sources.
Oh look here comes ML, Jesse's white knight attack poodle.
Uh huh, whatever. Go ahead and post whatever link that you think you have.
Fuck off with your toddler foot stomping you paid troll.
A quick google search pulls one up right off the same bat, and when I get home I'll post more.
https://reason.com/2022/02/06/free-the-art-sell-the-art/?comments=true#comment-9342329
Does your boss at the fifty-cent factory know that you're so shit at remembering your bullshit?
That doesn't prove your claim, since I was referring specifically to Jesse.
And yes Jesse is a disgusting human being.
Jesse's okay. You're the dishonest piece of shit we all are disgusted by.
So let's review.
You claimed, "I could link to a post of yours where you explicitly say that you're not going to look at any citations I provided".
You then posted a link which did not prove this claim.
I responded that your link did not prove your claim.
You responded with an insult.
So yeah, that's par for the course.
https://twitter.com/3sidedstory/status/1541055109282418688?t=v6Fu3jz33BUl_tYPi60DAQ&s=19
Why did Nancy Pelosi feel the need use her elbow to move Mayra Flores daughter away?
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Mike Liarson will be along shortly to explain that this was clearly an accident.
She's allergic to the darkies
She assumed the girl was a maid?
Pelosi doesn't like those "brown people" to stand so close to her.
To be fair she's wobbling like she's got a couple of boxes of wine in her system.
As always.
But here she looked over, frowned, and threw an elbow to shove her.
As mentioned in the replies, credit to the based little girl for getting right back up into Nancy's grill.
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1541076888495394817?t=Z4UUIOWCDECOYzfHS4x5Zg&s=19
This is an extreme and dangerous path the Court is now taking us on.
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Taking power from centralized government and handing it back to individual states... you better believe the DC aristocracy thinks that's dangerous and extreme.
Well, Joe, you are welcome to pass a "Privacy Amendment" any time. In fact, I think it would be a good thing to spell this out.
Threatening SCOTUS justices because they made a rational, correct legal decision that disagrees with your policy preferences, however, is both unacceptable and ineffective.
Well, Joe, you are welcome to pass a "Privacy Amendment" any time.
Of course they can't do that. They believe they have the right to control everything you do. How is reporting every economic transaction you have to the government consistent with a right to privacy? How is reporting your health insurance status to the government consistent with a right to privacy?
Like leftist support for "Democracy" is only applies to specific contexts. They support the anti-Democracy RvW, but they claim others are anti-Democratic.
Much like the left's now-resurgent interest in the 9th Amendment they wrote 98% of what it covered out of existence and now want to resurrect it, but only to cover the 2% they support. Then after supporting elimination of 98% of our rights they pose as Civil Rights defenders. This is a joke.
like the rest of the
Colombianleft, he misunderstands and distrusts the free market.There ya go.
Socialism, like how the 14th Amendment violating Electoral College redistributes the votes of the Maker/Contributor states to the Moocher/Taker states.
16th, not 14th.
Hey! Kuni was told there would be no math...
No, that’s not what socialism means at all.
Kuni! you brilliant bastard! You've done it! You said something dumber than AAA
Joe Friday has a new contender for dumbest motherfucker. We’ll tune in later to see who can take the top spot.
"Socialism, like how the 14th Amendment violating Electoral College redistributes the votes of the Maker/Contributor states to the Moocher/Taker states."
I'm sure this makes sense to some lefty pile of shit.
It sounds like a new talking point that one of AOC's selected-based-on-looks-age-and-ethnicity-interns came up with.
There wouldn't have been a 14th Amendment if we didn't have the Electoral College.
I think the former Confederate States were still not able to vote (Federally) at that time, so the 13th and 14th were passed by only the Union States making the Electoral College part of the equation not-important.
The Biden administration seems oblivious to
the drug trade'smarket dynamics.And again, glad to help.
Jewish Conspirator Goldwater asked why must "we" send goons with guns to kill people over drugs England once sold cheaply at drugstores with no prescriptions? Saint Joseph of Biden haughtily replied to the "Libertarian" scofflaw (27SEP86) that he believes: "We as a society should in fact protect our citizens, even those who are inflicting this sin upon themselves." The Crash that followed before Depression crushed those countries whose assets "we" confiscated from their banks... that was pure coincidence.
You know who else had some bold ideas and a mastery of contemporary media technology?
Zuckerberg?
Ben Franklin?
https://twitter.com/InezFeltscher/status/1541104830676090883?t=GImOAY0fYG7zhKsTxZY_wg&s=19
The DOJ, not content w hunting down concerned parents as domestic terrorists, filed a lawsuit to enforce the Biden’s wildly unlawful Title IX interpretation which bars states from noticing that boys are different from girls. Coming after WV for recognizing that boys have peepees.
You can read about these outrageous regulations here: [link]
And you can read the details of the lawsuit here: [link]
Understand: the US government is now claiming it’s a violation of civil rights law to recognize biological differences between men and women. We are fully in [clown world]
The DOJ is enforcing the SCOTUS Bostock court opinion.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/17-1618_hfci.pdf
LOL
https://twitter.com/MichaelJStern1/status/1540602226468704256?t=UegLigeKhWofyd8W6lc7jg&s=19
[Leftist attempted meme]
TKO
https://twitter.com/caesar_pounce/status/1540841168870801410?t=QEKeOCweofSlnacw5gZ20Q&s=19
[Counter meme]
Amusing.
The first one says, "A pregnant woman will be forced by the state to give birth (as directed by the Catholic Church, evidently).
The second one says, "A pregnant woman will be forced by the state to get an abortion (as directed by some random black guy, evidently).
Not sure how the second one is a precise rebuttal to the first one.
LOL
The second one is your Saint George Floyd, who once held a gun to a pregnant woman's belly.
Can't wait until you're finally aborted.
Oh, it is? I did not recognize the picture. Which is even weirder then. What does George Floyd have to do with abortion?
Poor imbecile
Was this article also submitted to High Times? I ask because if I were a Columbian, focusing on drug legalization (certainly a libertarian topic) which won't happen under a Socialist, seems like complaining about the needle they're using to kill you with a big dose of Socialism. I'd guess the author is hoping to get some Columbian Gold weed (party on!).
Looking at that photo of Gustavo Petro smiling, I wondered is it:
a) Petro thinks he can make Columbians better off with Socialism
b) Petro is thinking of how he's going to get rich off the Columbians by taking their stuff
After learning his 30 year career as politician, economist and guerilla, it's obviously option b. And Biden shouldn't send them a dime of our money. Instead Hunter will deal with Petro's relatives.
c) appeal to 51% of the voters by promising them some of the stuff of the other 49%, and then keep most of it for himself and his cronies
So you're saying there's nothing to be worried about, he's just a Democrat?
How silly of these Reason writers not to realize that laws making a crime of production and trade--certainly not murder or asset forfeiture--are the very heart and soul of freedom from coercion! Mister Dooley best explained Teedy Rosenfeld Monroeism: "In ivry city in this unfair land we will erect halfway-houses an' packin' houses an' houses iv correction; an' we'll larn ye our language, because 'tis aisier to larn ye ours than to larn oursilves yours." After "we" get through with Monroe Columbia, there will be nothing left for other socialists to covet!
Can we take a break from talking about TikTok (Hello? I’m not on it) and eating seaweed (ewww… I’m on the Jordan Peterson caribou meat and salt diet) and talk about the crippling discrimination that I as a Black ( don’t forget gay) conservative face every day.
I’ll provide an example: Just this morning I posted on Gab about how a White guy used the n_____ word (sorry, I’ll fill in the blanks here, but the White Nationalists who fund me don’t post it publicly— only privately) and how that proves that each and every person who thinks Social Security should actually exist is a virulent racist who hates Black people. Do you want to know what happened then? Fucking White Nationslists put 100k in my givesendgo account so they could own the libs. I mean, what the actual fuck? I wanted 200k. The oppression felt by me and honorary gay (already Black) man, Clarence Thomas, Is almost beyond one’s ability to bear.
Rodolfo Hernandez—a 77-year-old TikTok-famous construction tycoon who was a neophyte on the national political stage—campaigned on an anti-drug-war platform. The drug business, Hernandez argued, needs a capitalist approach instead of repression and violence. "The most dangerous thing about drugs," he said, "is prohibition."
They Elected a Socialist Instead.
This is important. And it's very important for libertarians to pay attention to when looking for their elusive left-libertarian alliances they desperately search for like so much Diogenes.
When the left (in this country) makes noise about legalizing drugs, that is not and end, that is a means to an end. The "end" to the left is the total elimination of global capitalism. It's clear that in Columbia that the left doesn't see drug legalization as a means to end to global capitalism-- and in fact they may see drug legalization as a way of bolstering global capitalism, so they're not interested in it.
So if you wondered why when the left finally relented and started legalizing marijuana, most places have ended up with a dog's breakfast of regulations and restrictions resulting in frustrating, byzantine systems, now you know.
and high taxes on it. don't forget the high taxes.
How does the "left" in some countries think legalizing drugs would help eliminate global capitalism?
Bert Hoover's prohibition enforcement created a huge market for German heroin, sold at convenience stores no farther than "Rum Row" floating on the horizon. This, combined with Dry Hope Hoover and Drug Czar Anslinger's attacks on less godly competitors convinced German pharma to back the National Socialist party. The NSDAP had already gotten commonsense laws passed to make sure no Jews could legally own guns. Other socialists were greatly encouraged by this.
"Despite his close links to Venezuela's Hugo Chávez and his "21st century socialism" agenda, Petro managed to garner the support of the traditional, often corrupt political machines that tend to heavily influence Colombian elections."
Sounds familiar; maybe change a few names here and there - - - - - - - -
Well well. Looks like Russia is about to default on its debt.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-26/russia-is-hours-away-from-its-first-foreign-default-in-a-century
BOOM!
Commander in Chief Joe Biden gets results! It's no wonder Putin is so scared of him. 🙂
I also heard from highly credentialed analysts that Russia's military will collapse any day now and Ukraine will be the decisive winner.
#LibertariansForGettingToughWithRussia
It's hilarious that you "think" this is noteworthy.
I can't imagine being as unintelligent as collectivistjeff obedient hivemind
I can imagine you must be upset, since it likely means your ruble payments are going to be shut off soon.
Hey, not-a-leftist is using another leftist automated response.
Totes surprising.
Collectivistjeff just isn't smart enough to realize the "default" is entirely symbic and that Russia's economy is stronger now that it was in January.
As a typical globohomo bot, it doesn't realize other people understand that there are financial systems outside European and American central banks, and that the majority of the world's population live in countries Russia has friendly relationships with.
Collectivistjeff seems to have missed the last few months in which it's been demonstrated that NATO+EU sanctions have had the opposite of their (ostensibly) intended effect.
Is that so. Well I confess that I am not nearly the expert on Russian affairs that you are, Nardz.
I suppose you must be thrilled that Russia's war of aggression against its neighbor is evidently going to be successful and Russia won't suffer negative consequences as a result.
Why do you want this aggression to be successful? Do you hate Ukraine? Do you buy Putin's argument that Ukraine is full of Nazis, or that Ukraine really doesn't deserve to exist as a separate country?
How far would Russian aggression have to go before you would say "whoa, that's too far"? Invasion of the Baltic republics? Invasion of Eastern European countries beyond Ukraine? Why would Russia stop at Ukraine if they think that they could get away with more?
Well. Now here's a creative way to support Ukraine.
https://news.yahoo.com/group-ukrainian-women-selling-nudes-100000631.html
Die, cancer clump.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/g7-commits-indefinite-military-financial-support-ukraine
It's official. Biden and NATO want this war to last for years. And Fuck all of those negros starving to death in Africa.
Fuck all those Ukrainians dying for absolutely no reason too, I guess.
Hey, another "strategic withdrawal" - Ukraine's totes winning!
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukrainian-city-severodonetsk-now-completely-under-russian-occupation-mayor
"As the last major Ukrainian stronghold of Luhansk province, its fall and forced Ukrainian treat now puts Luhansk firmly in the control of Russia, a key strategic victory for Moscow, which suggests all of Donbas will soon be next.
A Ukrainian military commander for Ukraine's eastern region, Serhiy Hayday, told CNN the decision was made to evacuate "because the number of dead in unfortified territories may grow every day.""
Fuck all those Ukrainians dying for absolutely no reason too, I guess.
They are patriots defending their homeland against an aggressor. How can you mock patriots for acting patriotically?
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ghislaine-maxwell-placed-suicide-watch
The attorney stated that this was done “without having conducted a psychological evaluation and without justification.”
She went on to say, “Ms. Maxwell was abruptly removed from general population and returned to solitary confinement, this time without any clothing, toothpaste, soap, legal papers, etc. She was provided a ′suicide smock′ and is given a few sheets of toilet paper on request. This morning, a psychologist evaluated Ms. Maxwell and determined she is not suicidal.”
Sternheim wrote she met with Maxwell today and has determined herself that Maxwell is not suicidal.
Sad to hear yet another friend of the Clinton's is suicidal
Epstein didn't kill himself. And when Maxwell doesn't either the security cameras will mysteriously malfunction.
"TikTok famous." As always, I'm amazed by the depth and breadth of "reason's" intellectual prowess and analytical insight. "Fire up another doobie, dude, we got us a Butthead-and-Bevis-level allnighter to do! And get a bag of chips, too!"
Colombia just had its last free election for quite a while.
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I thought that shortly after the socialists took over in Nicaragua, they settled down to a normal, US-friendly regime, similarly to what happened in southeast Asia after the dominos fell.
This isn't cumpai Daniel's first guateque. So where does he get the idea that Colombians, Ecuadorians, Peruvians or Bolivians have any more say in choosing a presidente than they have in selecting judges? Their place is to hand arrogant, free-trade fanatics over to gringo troops and to sign any asset-forfeiture agreements the current DEA Czar pushes in front of them.