Boycotts Aren't Protected Speech, Rules Appeals Court
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Boycotts aren't protected speech, says federal court. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 8th Circuit has upheld an Arkansas law saying public contractors can't boycott Israel. The decision is a dangerous incursion on free speech.
This isn't a case where a private employer is making staff take a pro-Israel pledge—something that would be weird and not great but not a violation of the First Amendment. No, Arkansas' law—and similar ones in more than 30 states—represents the government dictating how the owners of private companies that contract with public institutions can express their political concerns.
The case has "huge implications for free speech in America," tweeted Julia Bacha, a filmmaker with media nonprofit Just Vision who recently made a documentary about anti-boycott legislation.
"Over the past few years, several Americans have sued their respective states for violating their First Amendment rights" with anti-boycott laws. "They include a speech therapist in Texas, a lawyer in Arizona, a filmmaker in Georgia, a math teacher in Kansas, and a news publisher in Arkansas," notes Bacha. And "judges in Texas, Arizona, Georgia and Kansas have ALL found that the law was unconstitutional."
The exception has been a case brought by Alan Leveritt, which is the case that made it to the 8th Circuit.
Leveritt is the publisher of the Arkansas Times. And while he isn't personally involved in boycotting Israel, he sees such requirements as a dangerous development. He brought his case after being asked by the University of Arkansas as a condition of it continuing to advertise in the paper to certify in writing that the Times was not involved in boycotting Israel.
"It was puzzling. Our paper focuses on the virtues of Sims Bar-B-Que down on Broadway — why would we be required to sign a pledge regarding a country in the Middle East?" wrote Leveritt in The New York Times last year. The answer:
In 2017, Arkansas pledged to enforce support for Israel by mandating that public agencies not do business with contractors unless those contractors affirm that they do not boycott Israel. The idea behind the bill goes back 16 years. In 2005, Palestinian civil society launched a campaign calling for "boycott, divestment and sanctions against Israel until it complies with international law and universal principles of human rights." Around the world, Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions, or B.D.S., as it became known, gained momentum. In response, Israel and lobbyists have used multiple strategies to quash the movement. In the United States, one such strategy took the form of anti-B.D.S. bills. Currently, more than 30 states have provisions on the books similar to Arkansas's.
It soon became clear that The Arkansas Times had to answer our advertiser. Though boycotting Israel could not have been further from our minds and though state funding is a significant source of our income, our answer was no. We don't take political positions in return for advertising. If we signed the pledge, I believe, we'd be signing away our right to freedom of conscience. And as journalists, we would be unworthy of the protections granted us under the First Amendment.
And so, instead of signing, we sued to overturn the law, represented by the American Civil Liberties Union, on the grounds that it violates the First and 14th Amendments. We are still fighting it.
After losing in district court, Leveritt and the ACLU appealed to the 8th Circuit—and won, with a three-judge panel deciding in their favor.
But the state of Arkansas asked for a rehearing en banc, meaning the case would be heard by all of the 8th Circuit's judges. The state's request was granted, and now the court has ruled for the state.
Arkansas' anti-BDS law prohibits "purely commercial, non-expressive conduct," wrote Judge Jonathan A. Kobes in the court's opinion. "It does not ban Arkansas Times from publicly criticizing Israel, or even protesting the statute itself. It only prohibits economic decisions that discriminate against Israel. Because those commercial decisions are invisible to observers unless explained, they are not inherently expressive and do not implicate the First Amendment."
"The ruling, by Judge Kobes…claims that a boycott is simply economic activity, without expressive qualities," notes Bacha. "Kobes used to be the General Counsel for Senator Mike Rounds (SD), a co-sponsor of the federal anti-BDS law."
The ACLU now says it will appeal the decision to the U.S. Supreme Court.
"The court's conclusion that politically-motivated consumer boycotts are not protected by the First Amendment misreads Supreme Court precedent and departs from this nation's longstanding traditions," said ACLU staff attorney Brian Hauss in a statement. "It ignores the fact that this country was founded on a boycott of British goods and that boycotts have been a fundamental part of American political discourse ever since. We hope and expect that the Supreme Court will set things right and reaffirm the nation's historic commitment to providing robust protection to political boycotts."
Or, as Leveritt put it in his Times op-ed from last year: "Let's be clear, states are trading their citizens' First Amendment rights for what looks like unconditional support for a foreign government."
While Republicans have taken the lead on the sort of anti-BDS laws that this case concerns, some have been a bipartisan affair, notes Bacha.
"Beware of press coverage that points the finger at Republicans for stripping away our rights without recognizing that Democrats were complicit in opening the pandora's box when they overwhelmingly supported anti-BDS bills," she tweeted. "There's no First Amendment Exception to Palestine and this is as good time as any for the Democratic Party to learn this lesson, before irreparable damage to our rights in America is done."
Abed Ayoub, legal director of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, called the 8th Circuit's ruling "a very un-American ruling and position. This will flip the First Amendment on its head."
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How inflation erodes financial privacy. The Cato Institute looks at a sneaky side effect of inflation: It helps the "government increase financial surveillance under the Bank Secrecy Act by silently increasing the activities banks must report in their effort to counter financial crime."
Banks have to report financial activity over a certain monetary threshold, like when a customer makes cash transactions totaling over $10,000 in a day. "The result of the law is that thousands of reports are filed every day against Americans for merely using their own money," notes Cato policy analyst Nicholas Anthony.
So what does inflation have to do with the reports? The $10,000 threshold was set 50 years ago. If it were adjusted for inflation all this time, the threshold would be nearly $75,000 today. So while it may have been politically feasible to set a "high" threshold of $10,000 in the 1970s when you could buy two brand new Corvettes for that price, the threshold should have been designed with an adjustment for inflation so it would change to reflect changes in the economy.
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Abortion activists descended on the Wisconsin Capitol building to shut down state government proceedings. This is insurrection now right?
https://mobile.twitter.com/PPAWI/status/1539648047466295296
You know what's really close to an attempted insurrection? Telling the VP to break the law and ignore the Constitution in order to keep Trump in power. That is the team you support, Jesse.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/21/politics/read-eastman-memo/index.html
You mean like when dems voted against certification in 2000, 2004, and 2016? Walls are closing in jeff.
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Boycotts in general are only a choice. All unsuccessful alternatives boycotted.
The problem with boycotts is when they are coercive. When the people boycotting are coerced to. This constitutes a first amendment violation.
The coercion can be outright, like conditions for employment or service. Or the coercion could take the form of lies, misinformation to compel under the authority of truth. When they would not boycott if the truth were known. Propaganda. This is another reason why lying should be criminalized.
You're exactly right Jesse. Voting against certification of electoral votes in accordance with the Electoral Count Act is exactly the same as advocating that the VP violate the Electoral Count Act to keep the president in power despite the result of the election. They are totally the same thing.
Lol. So you agree the left attempted and advocated for the same tactic. Thank you.
If by "same tactic" you mean "completely different tactic", then yes.
Cry more.
He will. He seems very upset today. Maybe his mom forgot to buy Cheesy Poofs again?
Yes, voting against certification those other times is totally different than voting against certification this time.
Do you know what certification does jeff? How it effects electors? How denying cert makes the electors for that state invalid?
Please tell me again how this is different. In 2016 many democrats and media analysts advocated for the strategy as well.
You completely ignore the whole "urge the VP to break the law" part. I wonder why? It is because it makes your team look bad and it undercuts the BOWF SIDEZ narrative.
Lefty Jeffy trying to conduct a 1/6 committee right here in the comments. But he’s not a Democrat shill.
Jeff. What law? The one about certifying and seating electors. Oh wait. We are talking about the same thing but you are such a partisan hack youre finding the one way it was different to attack instead.
Lol.
Jesse, who, in 2016, on Team Blue, advocated for VP Biden to ignore the Electoral Count Act and declare Hillary the winner? Hmm? Go on I'll wait.
Otherwise STFU about "both sides being equal".
Jamie Raskin for one.
To the best of my knowledge, no he didn't. He raised an objection to Trump's 2016 electoral votes pursuant to the Electoral Count Act. He was ruled out of order by VP Biden because he didn't have a concurring Senator wishing to partner with him on that challenge. When his objection was ruled out of order, that was the end of it. There was no attempt to say "this Electoral Count Act is bullshit, VP Biden should ignore it and just declare Hillary the winner". By contrast, that is exactly what Eastman did, urging VP Pence to ignore the law, ignore the Constitution, and just declare Trump the winner.
Did you see the part where I said you're focusing on the one part different to defend one side for the same impact. Youre a fucking idiot jeff.
That "one part different", Jesse, is THE FUCKING IMPORTANT PART. It is WHY comparing what Trump & co. did in 2020, to what Democrats did in 2016, 2004, 2000, etc., is an invalid comparison. Trump & friends actively tried to undermine and violate the law in order to try to stay in power. That is FAR WORSE than merely using a law, and following the law, in an attempt to register a futile objection to the winning candidate.
You are too dishonest to see that.
Jeffy must protect his precious democrats.
Oh, can you also show any post I've made supporting the actions to use the secondary electors? I've talked much about illegal rule changes, fraud, and other issues. But never supported actually using secondary electors. So can you provide the citation?
By your rhetorical standard, Jesse, whatever you don't denounce, you support.
And also by your evidentiary standard, Jesse, the burden of proof to prove a claim lies on the person challenging a claim, not on the person making the claim.
So Jesse, because you support Team Red, that means you support everything that Team Red does, including the fake electors scheme. Because you don't denounce it, you support it. And the burden of proof is on you to prove that you did denounce it. So there.
So you lied. You continue to lie. And you're a hypocrite? Is that your defense here?
When you ask for citations I provide them. So I request your citation now.
No Jesse, I am applying your standard to yourself.
You are well known Team Red shill around here so of course you support the fake electors scheme. I've never seen you denounce it. Because you don't denounce it, you support it. And the burden of proof is on you to prove that you denounced it.
So where's your proof?
Here is some help to get you started on finding proof:
http://www.google.com
Psst. Jeff. Look one comment down idiot.
Oh. An i can easily say i don't support the secondary electors nor that strategy. The correct way is to go through the courts. See it is easy for me to denounce things I don't actually believe while you struggle to hide your actual beliefs while refusing to denounce what you're accused of.
I don't believe you. You've never mentioned the fake electors scheme before today when I had to drag it out of you. Your "opposition" to it is fake and situational only. Prove that you denounced it before today. The burden of proof is on you.
Go on, I'm waiting.
I actually have jeff. But keep spiraling. I've mentioned the strategy but never supported it. Lol.
Please keep defending yourself as a liar and hypocrite though. Looks good for you.
Prove it Jesse. Prove that you denounced the fake electors scheme before today.
Psst. 2 posts up. Now cite where I've defended the strategy. You always request it of others. Don't be a lying hypocrite. I provide your past statements often.
"2 posts up" doesn't count because that wasn't before today. Your purported denunciation of the "fake electors" scheme is itself fake because I had to wrangle it out of you today under pressure.
Prove where you denounced it before today.
Now cite where I've defended the strategy.
No no Jesse, by your own standard, the burden of proof is on you to show where you did denounce the fake electors strategy before today.
My own standard is actually providing your past comments dummy. LOL.
Wow jeff. You are ridiculous this morning.
"...Don't be a lying hypocrite..."
Leopards and spots.
Bullshit. Your repeated line of inquiry around here is to demand that everyone else prove to your satisfaction (an impossible standard) that they don't believe the claims that you foist in their mouths. You demand everyone else burn your strawmen for you and then you keep changing the goalposts until no standard of proof becomes acceptable. Just the other day you harassed Sarc repeatedly by demanding that he "denounce Democrats" with sufficient vigor in your eyes. Of course there is nothing he could possibly say that would satisfy your demand, that was never the point.
So I am not surprised that you don't like the same tactic being used against you.
So I ask once again, you need to show proof from before today that you denounced the fake electors scheme, to my satisfaction. But I will give you a heads-up, there is nothing you could possibly say that would constitute such proof. Because the goal here isn't to have a discussion, the goal is to tarnish you in the eyes of everyone else that you are in lockstep agreement with Team Red on the fake electors scheme. Because that is the repeated strategy that you use on everyone else.
Jeff, can you provide a citation to your accusation?
Fuck you and your demand for citations.
That is another Jesse tactic that you deserve to get good and hard.
Here is your citation:
http://www.google.com
jeff, JesseAz and the rest of the trolls aren't pretending to be honest or to play by the same rules that they demand of others. You will never get an honest word out of them. Just put them on mute again.
Jeffy, you’re the one with the credibility problem here, not Jesse. So stop lying and defaming him. Just admit the truth for once.
Wow, Jeffy has Sarc’s endorsement. That really carries some weight.
Saved Jeff's comments for next time he asks for a citation.
“I had to drag it out of you.”
He denounced it unsolicited about half an hour after you brought it up you lying piece of shit.
Shhh. You're breaking his narrative.
See? You won't even call it the "fake electors" scheme even though that's exactly what they were. You call them "secondary electors" as if they were just as legitimate as the duly certified ones. Just more evidence that you tacitly support this corrupt scheme. Prove that you don't, Jesse. The burden of proof is on you.
Jeff. Honestly. Than you for proving how big a hypocrite and liar you are this morning.
fake electors
This is the new Dem talking point. I saw it repeated multiple times on PBS the other night. Calling them 'fake' first, and then alternative as a secondary description to allow the 'fake' to take hold. Nothing about the process to ask for alternative electors is illegal, the same tactic was suggested during the electoral certification in 2016.
Calling them 'fake' is a gaslighting, biased description meant to give the idea that what Trump tried to do was illegal, underhanded and not allowed.
It was underhanded at minimum. “Fake” is an accurate non-biased description.
If this were true then why are democrats trying to make it a law so that a VP can't do what Trump asked pence to do.
Jeff isnbad at logic. He will try to find a way to rationalize his beliefs sans logic to your query.
chemjefe has to understand logic, he wouldn't be effectively able to gaslight without that understanding.
Oh look here is Jesse's attack poodle to white knight for him with incessant yipping.
Go back to your poutine and your hockey.
This morning has been terrible for you hasn't it jeff.
Poutine and hockey will never be insulting, but I'm delighted that I infuriate your fifty-centing ass.
Anyway, aren't you from Toronto, Jeffy?
"You know what's really close to an attempted insurrection? Telling the VP to break the law and ignore the Constitution in order to keep Trump in power."
Hey Jeff if you think that was insurrection (I don't and you're twisting facts but), remember when earlier that day Pelosi went to Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to ask if he would prevent Trump from holding military command and accessing the launch codes?
She was rebuffed by Defense Department officials who expressed anger that political leaders seemed to be trying to get the Pentagon to do the work of Congress and Cabinet secretaries, who have legal options to remove a president.
The New York Times of all places wrote, "Mr. Trump, they noted, is still the commander in chief, and unless he is removed, the military is bound to follow his lawful orders. While military officials can refuse to carry out orders they view as illegal, they cannot proactively remove the president from the chain of command. That would be a military coup, these officials said."
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/08/us/politics/trump-impeachment-pelosi.html
Pelosi tried to incite a military coup that day which is sedition.
So what should happen to Pelosi, Jeff?
Jesse denounced the electors soon after Lying Jeffy brought it up. So Lying Jeffy cries and asks for evidence of him doing it previously. Let’s see if Lying Jeffy can denounce Pelosi’s actions just in the here and now.
Hey ML instead of trying to change the subject, why don't you tell us all why you think Eastman asked to be put on the pardon list if he didn't do anything wrong.
Like you did just below by trying to bring up a past time regarding a wapo story and benghazi?
Don't be a complete hypocrite now Jeff. Looks terrible.
So you can’t denounce it.
Lol.
instead of trying to change the subject
The subject was insurrection on January 6, and Pelosi's coup incitement most definitely fit, you dissembling fuck.
Now stop trying to redirect and answer the question.
Because plenty of people are prosecuted and even successfully imprisoned for things that were legal, of course. And because the heated politics of it would almost guarantee a political prosecution, in DC, where it would be difficult to get a fair jury.
Wanting a pardon is never evidence of guilt-the whole reason the pardon power exists is to provide one final recourse for people whom the justice system has failed.
I think Trump and Eastman's strategy was shitty, needlessly divisive, and outside the bounds of the VP's authority. I don't think they should have done it. But that doesn't mean advocating for it is itself an illegal act.
To Jeffy, anythIng Trump does is a crime. He’s the most intellectually dishonest poster here.
By far.
chemjeff didn’t say preemptively demanding to be on the pardon list was illegal. He did imply he considers it slimey.
If a pardon is a “final recourse”, why was he going straight to demanding one?
So what should happen to Pelosi, Jeff?
And what should happen to Milley for phoning up the Chinese military?
Well, lucky then that that didn't happen.
Poliovirus might be spreading in London.
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Defund the police messaging was working so well that Stacy Abrams is now calling for them to paid more.
https://mobile.twitter.com/staceyabrams/status/1539936970884915200
But the message was already out and seems to be working for anti police hate.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/13-year-old-arrested-after-shooting-at-police-wanted-to-murder-a-police-officer
between her previous defund the police talk, her being all in on school mask nonsense previously, and calling Ga a terrible place to live...
Oh also add in she also went full tilt on the Jim Crow 2.0 stuff, saying the new Ga voter laws would be the worst thing for blacks...after the recent primaries and new voter laws Ga was declared one of the EASIEST states to vote, with records set for early voting. So her "but those evil whites suppressed black votes!" narrative has been completely eviscerated.
Add to that running as a socialist in Ga at a time dems and Biden have record low approval.
She is going to get absolutely embarrassed.
LOL you think she is capable of embarassment?
ill take 2 back to back failed runs in lieu of her personal embarrassment
Do you think she is capable of reality?
And I mean the kind on the outside, not the "reality" inside her head.
Biden embarrassed her on national tv when he brought her on to an interview and was asked if she was the VP candidate. Which as we all know, she wasn't.
I don't think she'll be embarrassed. She's going to get a ton of votes because she's been plastered everywhere. The mainstream media gives her a ton of free press, they absolutely adore her, and many people will never hear anything negative ever said about her. Playing the race card is often extremely effective.
Plus there's a ridiculous amount of money coming into her campaign. Like stupidly big amounts. She's going to outspend the incumbent governor by a minimum of 2-1, and probably much more than that.
The popular A.I. image generator DALL-E mini "has a mysterious obsession with women in saris."
Sari not sari, hu-man.
As with basically all such concerns about AI, it's going to be a training set issue.
A lot of coding does get outsourced to India.
Jussie Smollett, on a podcast released on his 40th birthday, still protested that he was not responsible for the infamous hoax in which he claimed he was the victim of a racist, anti-gay attack, insisting, “If I had done this, I’d be a piece of s***.”
I don't actually disagree with him.
Watched a movie with his sister in it.
She sucks too.
Another person with their own internal "reality".
When did we decide to pay attention to people with the intellectual and emotional capacities of pre-schoolers?
apparently around the same time we validated the delusions of preschoolers as legitimate
if a 5 year old can tell me they are actually another gender and I should affirm that, why cant Juicy believe that stuff really happened to him despite all evidence that he faked it for clout?
this is what happens when children are in power
maybe Smollett has a split personality and doesn't realize what he did.
If you feed him after midnight, he transforms into Juicy Smollett. Jussie has no memories of Juicy's actions.
Juicy Sommelier, the Incredible Sulk?
Dr. Jussie and Mr. Lied.
Senators are announcing legislation with video skits now, apparently...
You try getting the zoomers interested in how their money and liberty is being systematically drained from them.
I don't agree with the 10th court rolling, but it is 100% in line with all other rulings that the government can mandate behavior in their purchase agreements.
The moment a vendor begins boycotting suppliers they are no longer providing their best efforts to provide their services at the cost negotiated. You know if they experience self-inflicted cost overruns due to this they are going to make the state pay for their choices.
This is a bit weak tea to me. First it is making up a justification that everyone in the room knows is not the REAL justification. Second, the reason the state contracts out work is specifically because they do not want to be involved in the intimate details of providing a good or service. The way to prevent a contractor from "self-inflicted cost overruns due to" boycotting someone is to compare the costs of their good or service to the costs of others. If they can boycott Israel and still beat out the competition, then it doesn't matter to the state.
I'll be curious what the Supreme Court says. The facts listed here are a bit weird to me. I don't really like the government having riders like that in its contracts, but it does feel like there is a big difference between the government refusing to contract with a company unless they agree to this, vs. charging companies who don't do what they want.
At least part of the solution here is having the government smaller so there's less space for them to participate in economic activity like this, but that's obviously a pipe-dream. Maybe someday.
So, I'll wait for what the SC says. With the limited info I have it feels like maybe an issue of "bad but not unconstitutional."
Please tell us the real reason then.
The thought that the State doesn't want to get involved in the intimate details of a company is laughably detached from reality. They flat out require intrusion in the company with their racial and sex quotas for sub-conyractors as well as requiring union scale and rules.
Please tell us the real reason then.
Social engineering, as you point out:
They flat out require intrusion in the company with their racial and sex quotas for sub-conyractors as well as requiring union scale and rules.
These also interfere with their efforts to provide the best pricing.
The "intimate details" of operation to which Overt is referring are things like actual hiring and firing, purchasing, and scheduling - the things public agencies especially suck at.
Well, so the ruling is consistent with precedent then. So what's the legal problem then?
From a libertarian point of view, the problem isn't that this condition is imposed on the company, it's that the state is spending money on this in the first place.
"Please tell us the real reason then."
Really? The real reason is to protect the interests of Israel. If they wanted to ensure that the government gets the best value by ensuring they have as large of a supply chain as possible (which I find dubious to micromanage in the first place), they would insist on no boycotting of suppliers at all, instead of carving out a single group that happened to have lobbyists going around the country to get exactly these laws in place. *shrug*
And by the way, I absolutely agree that the State already does a bunch of nonsense with quotas and diverse hiring and that stuff. And I call equal bullshit to those who would defend these laws as anything BUT an attempt to protect a favored class from the consequences of free association.
The three questions are: (1) is it consistent with current law, (2) is it utilitarian, and (3) is it libertarian.
It clearly is consistent with current law, since government imposes far worse conditions on companies. It is arguably utilitarian, since companies that engage in politically-motivated boycotts are clearly not motivated by economic efficiency.
And from a libertarian point of view, all of this is irrelevant, since there shouldn't be public universities taking out advertisements in private newspapers.
That is a bullshit economic argument to justify censorship.
Tell me you didn't actually read the ruling.
Right. When I did some work for the government, I had to sign a declaration that I don't discriminate (which would include boycotting) against people based on race or religion. How exactly is this different?
Was national origin not included also?
Hospitals used Covid funds, including that 20% payment increase for covid deaths, to expand their profit margin.
https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/report-north-carolina-hospitals-used-covid-19-relief-funds-expand
Leftist groups also are well supported from covid funds.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/energy-environment/epa-used-covid-relief-to-fund-environmental-justice-initiatives
Good for them.
Buy electric. Support slavery.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2022/06/china-appears-to-be-selling-electric-batteries-made-by-slave-labor/
Are you sure that is slavery? I have heard that slavery was invented by the US founders, and only involves rich white capitalists murdering poor black people. Perhaps the situation in China has more to do with a caring national government trying to run an economy for the benefit of all people, while dealing with a seditious faction that refuses to comply with the approved national vision.
#fillinginforOBLwhilehefillsinforButtplug
I feel honored.
Progressives are okay with that kind of slavery.
Slavery has a very small carbon footprint, so totes cool.
J6 committee is finding so much more information they pushed the remaining hearings closer to the election.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2022/06/january-6-committee-delaying-hearings-until-july-due-to-additional-work/
After what has already transpired (nothing remotely illegal has occurred) of course you and you alone believe this is not a political decision born of desperation? Ironically, people who will be voting, know this committee is a partisan witch hunt and will actually help the GOP win a few more Seats.
Have you read my prior posts. I think the committee is a partisan witch hunt more dangerous than Watergate. They have used it to go after political opponents and internal emails from the opposing party. It is a scandal. Sadly reported by some of the writers here.
I know, right? It is absolutely scandalous that this committee is looking into bad behavior conducted by Team Red. Why everyone knows that Team Red is virtuous just misunderstood and perpetually victimized by the evil forces surrounding them. The real scandal is that anyone has the temerity to question their virtue.
I mean, Team Red launched their Benghazi committee and had hearings in 2014, right before the midterms. But that wasn't an attempt to influence the elections, that was just coincidental timing by Team Red to get to the bottom of the perfidy that happened there.
Yes jeff. Issuing subpoenas to gop members not even at the riots is totally legit. Including diaries and all contacts including all emails.
Totally justified.
Isn't it terrible that the Democrats are abusing their power to subpoena diaries of other members of Congress? It's like it has never happened before.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1994/01/25/judge-upholds-subpoena-for-packwood-diaries/e72c24da-dfc3-4832-a074-6c2e8e80d1d1/
Oh. That makes it totally fine for democrats this time then. Lol.
Wow. Please keep spiraling. You fuck up your sea lioning and expose your leftist authoritarianism leanings when you do.
Please tell us how it is uniquely awful and terrible when Democrats do something bad, while completely ignoring all of the other times when the same thing happened in the past by both teams.
Please continue to frame every issue and every topic in terms of Team Red boosting.
When did I say it was uniquely awful? When did I defend the wapo story?
Youre the only one defending either action as you did above defending the j6 committee.
Keep spiraling please lol.
You are the one claiming that when Democrats issue subpoenas for the diaries of members of Congress that it is this horrible abuse of power. Even though the same thing has happened in the past by both teams. That is one of your recurring schticks here: focus only on the present, ignore the past, ignore history, and frame every issue as a Democratic abuse of power.
It is a horrible abuse of power.
And then you throw in your defense of both sides have done it whereas I made no defense of either and remain firm it is an abuse of power.
This is because you're an authoritarian and not a libertarian.
And yet you are only upset about this horrible abuse of power when Democrats do it.
When Republicans do it you will find a way to rationalize it.
You don't care about abuses of power, you just care when Democrats do it.
Lol. Please keep spiraling jeff. I've never supported any attack using government power to go after opposing parties. Unlike you defending the j6 committee to do so.
I've never supported any attack using government power to go after opposing parties.
I don't believe you. Prove it. The burden of proof is on you to prove that you never supported any attack using government power to go after opposing parties.
No, it isn’t.
By Jesse's standard, yes it is.
So, to prove your negative, he would be required to show every post he's ever made here or anywhere else, and publicly dissect them to affirm that the thing you are asserting did not occur in any of them, even once.
_OR_
You could show one post from anywhere ever where it did happen.
This is why we generally do not ask people to prove a negative. It's an imbalance compared to the relative ease of proving a positive.
My standard is using and posting your past comment Jeff. Why lie about this?
This is why we generally do not ask people to prove a negative.
Oh I know. But that is not Jesse's standard. Time and again he has demanded from me and others "proof" that I never did this or that. Unsurprisingly, he does not like it when that same standard is then turned around on him.
Again jeff. My standard is actually posting your past comments. Why do you continue to lie?
1994? I was actually still in high school, lol. Jeffy goes back 28 years to make a point.
And everyone knows that the ONLY problematic behavior that occurred was the riot on Jan. 6. Nothing else matters. So no other subpoenas are relevant for anything else ever.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/21/politics/read-eastman-memo/index.html
Keep defending this jeff. It is working well for you lol.
Keep defending Team Red at all costs. That is why you are paid to be here, right?
You really do get angry when shown to be an idiot apparently. Where am I defending team read here? The only defense in this entire thread is you defending the abuse of the J6 committee.
Youre projecting.
Why is it problematic again to issue subpoenas to members of Congress who weren't at the riot? Is the physical riot the ONLY thing problematic that happened surrounding the events of Jan. 6? Hmm?
You object to the subpoenas because you object to exposing Team Red's dirty laundry.
And Jeff once again defends a partisan committee using subpoenas without any support of the minority party to go after the opposing party.
Youre doing well here jeff.
You ONLY oppose it here when it's Democrats going after Republicans.
You don't oppose it when it's the other way around.
So how come you never demanded that the J6 committee investigate Pelosi's attempt to start a military coup that day?
You ONLY oppose it here when it's anyone or anything saying something that reflects poorly on the Democrats.
And that's because you're a paid shill. Some political action committee pays you to fifty-cent here.
Jeff. I will say it for what, the third time. I always oppose it. It is an abuse.
Now let's talk about you defending it for the J6 committee.
I always oppose it. It is an abuse.
Your objections ring hollow.
Provide some proof.
And you only support it when it is targeting Republicans. It's like one pundit screaming at his reflection in the mirror. It is quite hilarious.
And you only support it when it is targeting Republicans. It's like one pundit screaming at his reflection in the mirror. It is quite hilarious.
That's not true. Go back and read what I wrote during Trump's first impeachment. The right-wingers around here were demanding that Biden be investigated because, according to them, there was some quid pro quo between him and the Ukrainian prosecutor regarding his son on the board of Burisma. And I SUPPORT that investigation. If/when Republicans do take over Congress next year, I hope they actually do an investigation. Of course if they do it will devolve into a political circus, but I hope there are a few nuggets of truth that they discover along the way. I was saying that 3 years ago. ALL politicians should be zealously investigated for improprieties. It's only the Team Red boosters around here like Jesse who think it is totally unfair when their team gets investigated.
Jeff please provide a citation for your claims.
Here is your citation Jesse:
http://www.google.com
Please, Jesse, tell us that the Benghazi hearings in 2014 right before the midterm elections (which Republicans won, let's recall), and the extended grilling of Hillary Clinton in the fall of 2015, right when the presidential campaign was ramping up, had nothing to do with using the investigatory powers of a Congressional committee to influence electoral politics. Nope, not at all. In this case it was Team Red acting virtuously and heroically against the depredations of Team Blue, no electoral considerations whatsoever!
Benghazi revolved around dirext acrual actions regarding Hillarys responsibility as adjudicator of security requests for embassies as head of state. It also involved democrats lying about the attacks and going after a film maker from California as an excuse to hide that fact.
Please do defend that lol.
Of course Jesse. Republicans in 2014-15 were acting virtuously and heroically with their Benghazi hearings. No electoral considerations whatsoever. Democrats in 2021-22 were acting corruptly with their Jan. 6 hearings. It is totally about electoral considerations, nothing more. Thank you for clearly illustrating your double standard.
Jeff what did I say that was incorrect?
Please keep spiraling. Continue to expose your dishonesty.
I'm sorry, Jesse, I didn't hear you say "yes, Team Red had electoral motivations in mind when they decided to launch the Benghazi committee right before a midterm election". Did you say that Jesse? I must have missed it.
Jeff. Was benghazi regarding security requests for embassies that by law require adjudication by the SoS? Yes or no? Is it regarding executive actions? Yes or no? Does congress have oversight of the executive? Yes or no?
Exactly right Jesse. When Republicans launch investigations in an election year, their motivations are as pure as the wind-driven snow. When Democrats launch investigations in an election year, their motivations are corrupt and motivated only by electoral politics. We all hear you loud and clear, Team Red shill.
Jeff, answer the questions.
It is also weird that you are comparing an investigation into executive actions regarding the death of multiple government employees to a protest and the investigation into the opposing parties plans and internal emails, not any official executive action.
Why?
Your questions are sealioning and an attempt to change the subject.
Once again Jesse: did Republicans have electoral motivations in mind when they decided to launch Benghazi investigations during an election year? Yes or no?
Of course the Republican's had ulterior motives, but nobody was lying about what happened at Benghazi. Furthermore there were no prime-time showtrials.
The Democratic Party and the J6 Committee on the other hand are lying their asses off, politically targeting (no committee for the Kavanagh hearing and White House attacks), and turned a hearing into a showtrial with an actual Hollywood producer running the deal.
Of course the Republican's had ulterior motives
See? Even your attack poodle can say it.
Come on Jesse, let's hear you say it. "Republicans had electoral considerations in mind when they decided to launch Benghazi hearings in an election year"
Neat how you ignored the rest of my statement which attacks your original proposal, in favor of trying to make Jesse state what he's already acknowledged as obvious.
If you can't win the argument, go for a rhetorical win on irrelevant minutiae, huh?
And Jeff doesn't know what sea lioning is despite being one. Lol.
trying to make Jesse state what he's already acknowledged as obvious.
No, he didn't. He refuses to do so. But nice try gaslighting.
That's not what gaslighting means either, Jeff.
Hey Jeffy, every other year is an election year.
And she had committee members who defended her, unlike this entirely partisan star chamber bullshit.
Serious question:
Why do you work for these people?
Because they have they evidence. But you want to believe. So that doesn’t matter to you.
They figured they could get more eyeballs if they make it an extended series. Maybe with some cliffhangers like LOST? If everyone binges it now, they will move on to another show
I hope we get some celebrity cameos in the second season, the first one was pretty boring.
https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-announce-january-6-hearings-on-ice
Dang, I'm no match for the professionals.
Usually, when they split a season into two mini-seasons during the same year, it's getting canceled.
"Poliovirus might be spreading in London."
Of course we Koch / Reason libertarians have the perfect response — invite the entire population of London to immigrate to the US. I expect a Fiona column on this by the end of the day. 🙂
#OpenBorders
#(EspeciallyDuringAnOutbreak)
Ah, no……. They are not brown, nor cheap.
#OBLisslipping
A jury just ruled that @IJ client Vicki Baker is entitled to $59,565.59 after a SWAT team destroyed her home while pursuing a fugitive in July 2020.
Apparently there were no kids in danger in her house.
HAHAHAHAhahahah
I wish the jury had done the moral thing and awarded her exactly 10,131.37 more damages then what she was given.
Good morning Peanuts! This is your favorite liberal capitalist reminding you the Biden economy is amazing. So if you're not making way more money now than you did under Trump, you must be doing something wrong.
#TemporarilyFillingInForButtplug
Good Morning!
...the 8th Circuit has upheld an Arkansas law saying public contractors can't boycott Israel.
You know who else boycotted Israel?
Time traveling Mustache von Goose Stepper?
Athletic people?
Well, aside from that ugly history, anti-Semitism is in vogue on the Left again.
Flavius Josephus?
Ben and/or Jerry?
Coming soon, Gaza Grapeshot and West Bank Bus Bombe.
"Three private employers in Florida filed suit today against HB 7 (aka the "Stop WOKE Act"), which they claim violates their 1A right to promote certain concepts in employee trainings."
Let me guess, they really want to tell certain races that they are oppressive scum and they arent allowed to anymore?
That is literally in their brief, but in gentler language.
I do wish they would not have named it "stop woke". Even though wokeness is obviously cancer, I feel like the name is a little cringey. Something like workplace anti-discrimination, or workplace racism bill would be a better look. And adequately describe what the people pushing this stuff are.
But crude, obvious labels help us sort out people and enterprises on our road to total polarization. Soon states and companies can post simple badges and other codes, and people can choose where to live and work. Then we can have peaceful coexistence, right?
Agreed. Describe what it's trying to stop in plain language and it looks pretty bad to normal people not caught up in culture war. Anyone who is going to respond to "WOKE" already knows what side they are on.
Well, of course they didn't name it "stop woke".
The fascist opposition did.
It is named "An act relating to individual freedom"
I thought they purposely named this one with WOKE capitalized as its some acronym.
Regarding this decision ENB discusses. Here is the actual finding.
The statute defines “boycott of Israel” as “engaging in refusals to deal, terminating business activities, or other actions that are intended to limit commercial relations with Israel, or persons or entities doing business in Israel or in Israeli-controlled territories, in a discriminatory manner.” Ark. Code Ann. § 25-1-502(1)(A)(i).
What the court did was separate the actions from the speech advocating for actions.
What the law did:
The vacated opinion had tried to read “other actions” as covering protected speech activities, but its context in the statute indicates that “other actions” refers to commercial activities. Furthermore, accepted canons of statutory construction require a court to interpret a statute as presumptively constitutional, and not to stretch its meaning to force an unconstitutional reading. The Eighth Circuit’s en banc opinion read the law in this limited, presumptively constitutional way. It held that the law only applies to commercial activities, and is constitutional.
I haven't fully decided if this is a good ruling or not. But the court decided actions are different from speech, so it is not as simple as ENB makes it out to be. The court states there is a difference in speech vs action. So the discussion is not related to free speech, but commercial independence of contractors. We know the government can regulate commercial actions. They do so all the time. For many reasons.
I doubt the government has an interest in determining the customer or base of a business it grants money to, but the government does this all the time such as with making it illegal to discriminate on customers or suppliers based on race or gender. In fact the government generally requires businesses to operate fairly despite race, religion, or other metrics. So the ruling falls more in line with current precedence of not allowing discrimination based on race or origin of a person when companies ban or boycott Israel based on those factors.
So those arguing this is a bad law, do you extend it to business boycotting business from gays or African americans?
Imagine having a vendor come to you with a price increase on your already approved contract for "cost overruns" but all the added costs could have been avoided if they actually stuck to the negotiated terms. As long as this is what they're forbidding, it's fine, say what you want and bid how you want, as long as it's honest. The problem is you cannot tell so it's easier to say you can't intentionally do things (like boycotting countries) that can drive up the state's costs.
But then you should make a more broad law than one that is clearly targeted at supporting Israel. They should be prevented from boycotting anyone- china, india, russia, what have you.
Maybe. But it's narrowness doesn't make it illegitimated.
Nah. The purpose may be legitimate- "We need to ensure that we get the best value from our contractors." But 1) the law doesn't achieve that BECAUSE it is so narrow. So if you insisted we needed this law to serve the purpose, I'd say "Go back and rewrite the law so that it actually achieves the purpose."
And 2) We all know that wasn't the PURPOSE of the law in the first place.
Look, I think the BCS shit is stupid. But part of being free is being stupid and even culturally noxious. Rather than trying to counter this thinly veiled anti-semitism, Israel's supporters are engaging the law. This isn't about "getting the best value" it is about using the Alabama government to protect Israel from its dishonest ideological enemies.
Laws already exist based on denial for race gender or religion. In reality this new law should be covered under those. But judges didn't incorporate BDS claims as falling under those laws, so they expanded it uniquely.
"They should be prevented from boycotting anyone- china, india, russia, what have you."
This, but MP is also right that narrowness doesn't make it illegitimate.
I'm personally uncomfortable with any boycotts that aren't natural and grassroots.
If, for example, people want to boycott Disney because it's now full of creepers, that's fine. If someone organizes a boycott and pressures others to join, it's less cool.
Imagine having a vendor come to you with a price increase on your already approved contract for "cost overruns" but all the added costs could have been avoided if they actually stuck to the negotiated terms.
I don't have to - I manage public contracts for a living.
If a vendor did this to me, I would point to the no-boycotting provision that's already in the contract and tell them to fuck off. And I would be 100% supported by both contract law and Public Contract Code.
Burning down a city is Speech, but Hate Speech (and silence) is Violence. This was decided years ago
It really does make the brain ache.
"The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 8th Circuit has upheld an Arkansas law saying public contractors can't boycott Israel."
Good.
I like Israel because my favorite conservatives (Bill Kristol, Jennifer Rubin) say it's a wonderful country and a key US ally.
#LibertariansForTheJewishState
#(ItsOKIfTheyHaveAWall)
Hey, I actually agree with Bill Kristol on something. Love Israelis and would love to visit.
Glad to hear it. 🙂
Jewish nationalism = good
Any other nationalism = bad
#GodsChosenPeople
Jewish nationalism = good
Any other nationalism = also good
Though I'm a proponent of localism, I'll take nationalism over imperialism and globohomo.
I've heard John Derbyshire make this point a few times.
(FWIW, I agree with him.)
Of course, the BDS folks have as much problem with American nationalism as they do with Israeli nationalism. But hey, fuck'em.
• Poliovirus might be spreading in London.
The second pandemic biden warned us about.
Biden warning of another upcoming pandemic isn’t a big news story.
Monkeypox didn't stick.
Monkey pox didn’t work as well as the focus groups though it might.
To be fair, 'international gay orgy rave party' is a rather unique subset of 'focus group', but I suppose the term is appropriate enough.
• The Department of Corrections won't count Antonio Bradley's death as a death in custody after he hanged himself in a Bronx Criminal Court cell, because he was granted compassionate release as he lay dying in a hospital. "So far this year eight inmates have died in custody, including two this week. If Bradley was included in the tally, he would be the ninth," reports the New York Daily News.
Is this like when suicides with guns get reported as gun violence?
I know, right? An act of violence was committed with a gun, but how dare those leftist trash declare the act to be one of "gun violence"!
You are still steaming after being a fucking idiot about security clearances yesterday. Lol.
Who needs honest discourse when it hurts leftist narratives.
Are you rage eating today?
You're right Jesse. It is just completely dishonest to classify an act of violence that occurred with a gun as "gun violence".
Suicide isn't an act of violence.
Leftists and anti gun activists have to lump suicides in for purely narration reasons. It is dishonest discourse. Something you obviously support.
Suicide isn't an act of violence.
Definition of violence
1a: the use of physical force so as to injure, abuse, damage, or destroy
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/violence
Gee, that didn't work out so well for you, did it?
But you're totally right, classifying an act of physical force used to injure, abuse, damage or destroy as "violence" is totally dishonest when Democrats do it. Only Republicans are allowed to offer the proper classifications and characterizations of all things.
Gee, so what's the proper, non-violent method for suicide?
I don't think there is one.
LOL
So you are now against euthanasia. to stay consistent?
Drug overdoses are violence?
Can we ban large appliances next for acts of violence when tipping over?
Here, Jesse dishonestly conflates "categorization of acts of violence" with "opposition to acts of violence".
No he didn't.
Yes he did, Jesse's White Knight Attack Poodle
Poor Jeff, I guess sarcasmic just didn't work out as your White Knight Attack Poodle and now you're projecting.
Don't worry, you'll always have Sqrlsy. Would it make you feel better if I start calling him that?
So, should government ban suicide?
No.
It’s sea lioning again.
Let's also walk down the path you are advocating. Every drug overdose or use of euthanasia is now an act of violence according to your argumentation. So you now support outlawing drugs and are against euthenasia?
I didn't say every act of violence should be outlawed. Self-defense for example is (usually) an act of violence that should not be outlawed.
I am simply noting that you don't believe Democrats deserve the ability to use the plain meaning of English words if in so doing they make Republicans upset.
It isn't the plain language of the word. Or else you are making a nonsensical word where we can describe any harm ever caused as being violence even if the act is self initiated.
I cited the fucking dictionary. Are you going to claim that the dictionary is a left-wing plot?
I'm going to claim youre an idiot for not understanding the term in application.
Jeff is just exhausting with all his sea lioned tangents.
most people having an honest conversation consider violence as an act between individuals
If I punch myself in the face, did "violence" happen? If I accidentally hammer my thumb? Bite my tongue? Take too much opioid?
Lets not make the conversation silly Jeff
If I punch myself in the face, did "violence" happen?
Not to anyone that believes in self ownership. But to totalitarians that believe citizens are property of the state, harming oneself is literally destruction of state property.
I know! Let's nitpick and litigate the plain meaning of the word "violence" if it helps undercut Democrats and their agenda.
Jeff, I am willing to argue that the plain reading of "violence" tends to imply some external receiver of the action. To the point that when violence is used to describe a person directs against themselves we tend to have either separate words (self-harm, self-abuse, suicide) or we require specification.
If you asked folks what they imagine if they are told "X committed an act of violence." I believe that nearly everyone would mention it as some act of violence by X against some Y.
Do you believe that gun suicides should be included in gun homicides and that counting them all up in the same pile makes sense?
When talking of bombings, should we count a person intentionally blowing up an office building or airport lounge with an accidental propane tank explosion? Would it be useful to classify them as the same thing since a violence happened in both scenarios? If I wanted to inflate the number of bombings, including every explosion would be a very useful way of doing so
When talking of Covid deaths should we count every Covid positive person... oh, wait.
the same people who happily inflated COVID numbers, disingenuously, with the "with" rather than "of" numbers are...you guessed it...the same people that will insist suicides are listed with all gun deaths to make the number as scary as possible
No coincidence there.
Nitpicking and litigating the plain meaning of the world "violence" is exactly what you're doing.
This is literally the tactic you just took above Jeff.
Wow. You are just dying in this roundup today.
That’s what you’ve been doing. You always do this when you lose your arguments. Which means you do it 100% of the time.
Most people seem to not be aware that the numbers include suicides, and most people seem to be surprised and consider it somewhat separate. Particularly coming from a libertarian perspective making a sharp delineation between violence against others and violence against self is incredibly important.
Unless you’re Lying Jeffy trying desperately to win against Jesse, then everything is on the table.
He’s an excruciating little butterball turd. I’m surprised he doesn’t want the definition of every word of every comment he responds to.
I know, right? An act of violence was committed with a gun, but how dare those leftist trash declare the act to be one of "gun violence"!
Do other statistics regarding violence also include suicides?
If a black person tries to commit suicide by hanging themselves, but fails, it should be counted as an attempted lynching.
The world's most taboo legal case:
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-worlds-most-taboo-legal-case
This is a case in which inmates in women's prisons are alleging sexual assault by "transgender" inmates- men who still have penises, who don't take hormones, who have criminal histories of sexual assault, "identifying" as women and being transferred to women's prisons, and then raping other female inmates. It's being ignored by the state of California, in service to the trans agenda.
This is clearly a case of systemic abuse of inmates in women's prisons. Where is Reason on this? Female inmates are being sexually abused in prison, and the state of CA is doing nothing to rectify that.
I mean if you were a male prisoner, in what world would you not play this card?
Transfer to a women's prison, with the chance to fuck women again, and none of the risk of getting beaten or buttfucked yourself?
Win-win-win. Well except for the people that get raped, I suppose
I’d definitely do it if i was in prison in California. Without the rape. Seems if you were the only man in a female prison you wouldn’t need to rape anyone to get some action though?
There would be no rape necessary. Turns out people love fucking especially when they havent been able to in a long time
But I definitely understand that when dealing with the prison population that its not going to be super long before it happens, given the clientele.
Yeah, Im guessing the men in question are actually more into rape than consensual sex, even if it’s available.
Its a good gig for rapists.
It's bad for women in prison movies.
At least confusing.
A woman with a penis is still a woman.
Reason's official LGBTQIA+ correspondent Scott Shackford has explained dozens of times that ciswomen who don't want ladydick in their female-only spaces are nothing more than hateful science-denying bigots.
#TransWomenAreWomen
PS — Matt Taibbi is a discredited #TrumpRussia denialist.
Point
How about a female dolphin with a penis?
That's why they named xer "Flipper".
Is a woman with two penises twice the woman?
Two penises are mightier than the sword swallower.
Women don't exist. The word in an umbrella term for how some people identify with absolutely no underlying basis.
We haven't been concerned about prison rape for decades, why start now?
"The result of the law is that thousands of reports are filed every day against Americans for merely using their own money."
"BWAHAHAHAHAAA!!"
“If they have that much money, they must be doing something criminal.”
The limit for liquids through a checkpoint is 3.4 oz.
"FOLLOW THE SCIENCE!"
Oh look. A candidate for office apparently does not know how many states there are. I expect this 'scandal' will follow him around for years and years as evidence of his obvious idiocy and unfitness for office.
https://news.yahoo.com/herschel-walker-says-52-states-202315437.html
He was off by 5.
https://www.reuters.com/video/watch/idWAO1209788800644
Next up: Jesse votes for a guy who thinks that the Constitution has an "Article 12". Because really, basic competency with facts and knowledge are secondary when it comes to "pwning the Left".
https://www.vox.com/2016/7/7/12122228/donald-trump-constitution-article-12
You are really angry this morning. Wonder why... hmmm...
The entire irony of you accusing people of trying to own the other side when you openly state that it is your motivation is to do that and start a discussion around it is hilarious by the way.
Let's not forget: Those brave patriots in 1775 fought heroically to take the airports away from the British. Spoken by another candidate that Jesse supported.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/05/flight-of-fancy-trump-claims-1775-revolutionary-army-took-over-airports
Do you really want to get into Democrats fucking up on history and geography, because I can start with Obama and Clinton, and moving down easily turn this into a thousand post thread.
Like when Obama said there are “57 States”, called the British Embassy, the “English Embassy”, called a Navy Corpsman a “corpse-man”, bowed to the Saudi King, claimed that “America built the Intercontinental Railroad”, etc...
Ya this is a fruitless conversation. Sure, Trump had no limit on stupid shit that came out of his mouth. But he was also a blowhard reality TV star who fucked porn stars and watched shark week.
Presidents with a much higher pedigree and education have also said extremely stupid shit. You could argue its more embarrassing for them given their perfect superior elite brains.
The point being this equates to nothing more than a food fight.
Uh huh. It's only now a "fruitless conversation" when it's Republicans saying the stupid shit.
When it's Obama saying "57 states", then it is a national scandal that must be talked about for eight straight years.
Im fine with you labeling Herschel walker an idiot. I dont agree with all his politics and wouldn't expect a former football player to be a beacon of knowledge.
I admittedly dont remember the 57 states thing, but do remember the tan suit being a big deal
I also dont know what you want here. The media, late-night, and lots of pop culture are currently shitting on Herschel Walker, and previously spent almost every breath they had shitting on Trump for stupid shit he said. It was a 4 year non-stop dog pile.
But somehow even that's not enough because someone talked shit on Obama before? Was his holyness not to be criticized? In their 8 years of tongue bathing Obama some criticism got through and this is a travesty to you?
You dont think the asymmetric treatment of Obama as a political god who now enjoys above-celebrity status and riches beyond their wildest dreams, vs Trump who most of the MSM will continue to call a bumbling idiot AT BEST and at worst a traitor who should spend the rest of his days in prison...thats not enough for you? You have to spike the football on idiot Herschel walker because god forbid someone made fun of Obama before?
Do you think Obama got 1/1000th the amount of criticism or scrutiny a modern day Republican gets? Deathsantis ring a bell?
But don’t you dare call Jeffy a lefty. He’s just here for honest discussions.
Jeff is really getting dunked on a lot lately. Someone should do a welfare check to see if he’s ok. I’m picturing private Pyle in the bathroom scene of full metal jacket.
Ouch. Jeff is on the floor. Stop beating him.
JimboJr doesn't fuck around.
I want you to acknowledge the utter hypocrisy of Team Red when they spend 8 years obsessing over "LOL 57 STATES" as some sort of proof that Obama is a moron, and then go out of their way to ignore and deflect and defend the far stupider and shittier things that Republicans generally, and Trump specifically, uttered out of their big fat pieholes.
And maybe this just hasn't sunk in for you yet. To a lot of people, myself included, they were never going to vote for Trump, and it had nothing to do with his politics. It was because TRUMP IS A TERRIBLE HUMAN BEING regardless of whatever beliefs he pretended to espouse. THAT, more than anything, is why he lost in 2020. So yes the asymmetric treatment of Obama vs. Trump is well deserved. Hell, the asymmetric treatment of nearly ANYONE vs. Trump is well deserved.
“When it's Obama saying "57 states", then it is a national scandal that must be talked about for eight straight years.”
I don’t recall it being a national scandal. I recall it being something people laughed at your God for saying.
When it's Obama saying "57 states", then it is a national scandal that must be talked about for eight straight years.
Now we know Obama was only predicting the future US of Libtopia that included the sovereign state of Washington DC and the new southern state of Puerto Rico.
Plus the 5 new states of the republic of California.
Referencing Obama’s gaffe really triggered you, didn’t it? I’m sure you’re sensitive about how your Marxist hero is treated.
I mean maybe. My news feed was over-run with stories about his illegitimate child scandal. So I dont think this one ranks as high.
The story here being the media is tripping over themselves to report on his OTHER scandal. Oddly I haven't heard a peep about the Ga dem candidates though, so I can only assume they are squeaky clean.
Abrams is always in the news.
Usually said news is to report how great and virtuous she is and how racism and voter suppression is keeping her out of office
Not a lefty folks.
I don't even live in Georgia but have been hearing about quite a few scandals from Herschel Walker. So, this might have just fallen below the line.
https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1539973117535490048?t=cESO3oFz0npIOd7Nts3RKw&s=19
Widespread cowardice is what got us here. In a society of hyper-conformists with a pathological need to follow the rules of our abusers the willfully ignorant allowed corruption to thrive. This has enabled a continuum of destruction. It’s your fault. Reboot people power. Wake up!
Uhoh. Ron Johnson is in trouble (again). Looks like he is a part of the fake electors plot.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3533609-ron-johnson-embroiled-in-controversy-over-staff-handing-pence-fake-electors-list/
Walls are closing in.
Jesse thinks sending fraudulent electors to the Senate to be certified is a totally acceptable thing to do.
Cite? When have I ever supported that.
Walls are closing in jeff.
You were right above. Jeffy’s extra pissy this am. Somebody’s gonna need to vacuum the cookie spittle out of his keyboard.
It happened after he argued from ignorance defending his boyfriend sarcs made up story about security clearances yesterday. He stewed all night.
Or "was stewed all night"
The angry flop sweat meant another night sleeping in the bathtub.
The burden of proof is on you to prove that you denounced the fake electors scheme. Before today would be nice.
Nobody owes you anything.
A kick in the ass for one.
So the jury adjourns at dark? Make sure the burden is met so jeffy's hurt feelings get restored.
No shit. Today’s roundup reminds me of when we broke sarc. And when Mike Liarson flipped out and started stealing other people’s handles to teach Tulpa a lesson then left and came back as White Knight.
Lefties are always on the edge of becoming completely unhinged.
Lol.
Why do fake electors matter?
Because the walls are closing in. He needs to justify the J6 committee abuses somehow.
My understanding is that they are not even fake they are alternate electors that are the legal defaults if others are overturned and only to be used if the others are overturned but some how that makes them fake. its all about who controls the wording
Nope that is not what they are. The "alternate" electors are completely fake. Not certified by anyone other than Trump voters. Not certified by the governor, the secretary of state, the state legislature.
So, some guys fake-signed a fake slate of electors that was not certified by anyone with certification authority in a fake ceremony that was not official in any way, and then sent it to the National Archives, who referred to it as "communication with private individuals," indicating that they knew it was not official correspondence and presumably did not include it in their official record of electors because it wasn't official and they knew that?
OMG. The scope of this crime is breathtaking. We need another set of televised hearings.
Don't mock him so mercilessly. It's all he's got, Cronut.
I'm guessing mockery is probably the only time anyone talks to him.
The fast food workers near his home speak to him daily.
Speak to his mom. Jefe doesn't like to leave the basement.
Another thunderous dunk.
BOMBSHELL!!!!
That looks pretty bad. Definitely worth investigating.
I agree, it is worth investigating.
Jesse, what do you say? Here is where you can show some tangible evidence that you are opposed to the "fake electors" scheme. Support investigating this Republican for his alleged role in the plot. Of course that would mean Democrats would be the ones most enthusiastic about investigating him, and you won't stand for that. So instead I think you might say a few tepid words about what Ron Johnson or his staff did and then spend the rest of the time denouncing Democrats. Isn't that par for the course, Mr. Team Red shill?
I'm not sure it looks that bad. Based on the story, the fake electors were never delivered anyway. The CoS texted the VPs CoS about it, the VPs office said don't deliver it and it wasn't delivered. Johnson's office never actually did anything except recieve fake electors and then not deliver them.
That's why I think it's worth investigating. Whether Ron Johnson was aware of it matters to me. I don't think a criminal charge could come out of it, but jeez I wish we could reach a place where we have somewhat higher standards than that.
My guess is, this has probably already been investigated. It's not really reasonable to think that a senator was involved in delivering a fake slate pf electors to the VP's office in an attempt to trick the VP into certifying fake electors, and it hasn't seen the light of day till now. If anything at all happened, MAYBE Johnson was aware of the fake slate, but it was unofficial and uncertified by state officials, and he knew that and was making some kind of protest statement. So far, none of the "fake elector slates," have been anything more than a protest against the certified slates. None of them made any attempts to pass themselves off as official in any way, and everyone on the recieving end of them was aware they were not officially certified slates. Same thing with the Nevada guys. No one took their submissions seriously because they weren't certified by the state, and they didn't attempt to make them appear certified by the state. It was a protest slate which they knew wouldn't be accepted.
IMO, this is just more democrat inflation of something that no one took seriously into AN ATTEMPT TO SUBVERT OUR DEMOCRACY.
And Lefty Jeffy plays along with the DNC narrative, again.
None of them made any attempts to pass themselves off as official in any way
I see you did not read the Eastman memos.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/21/politics/read-eastman-memo/index.html
The slates of fake electors was part of the fig-leaf plan by Eastman to justify ignoring the Electoral Count Act. According to Eastman, Pence was supposed to say "whoa, there's two slates of electors here, and I TOTALLY CAN'T TELL WHICH IS THE OFFICIAL ONE, so I'm gonna just put these off to the side and not count them." Without the fake slate of electors, there is no basis for the ruse.
You mean the ruse that didn't happen because the "fake electors" were obviously not the real slates, certified and submitted according to the laws of the individual states? Like the "fake electors" that Johnson's team didn't actually even send to the VP?
Are you ever going to acknowledge what Eastman did and what the plan was? The fake electors was part of a scheme that started WELL BEFORE Jan. 6 to try to subvert the will of the voters if Trump didn't get his way.
Maybe. If so, then my point is null, but also unchanged. It should be investigated, if it did take place then that's fine.
These type of fact heavy questions are difficult to respond to in any meaningful way, so I tend to just trust the process and give high level opinions. Seems like lately, court related stuff is taking up my focus on questions of specifics.
The forms weren't signed by anyone for validity. It was someone generating an unoffial list. It was never signed by the proper elected officials.
https://twitter.com/EricTWBB/status/1539842136694132737?t=nVq7kLm8rj-wfJHl2Z9Ywg&s=19
Red Flag laws are how they disarm veterans with PTSD.
It’s right in front of you.
Don't worry, the left knows who to blame (today)
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1539936946453094400?t=yg153VszkkKV-Zd_ndPPsw&s=19
There was an incredible amount of vituperative commentary from center-left economists condemning any suggestion that price-gouging might be contributing to inflation. Certainly not the main cause. But research now indicates that it was *a* cause
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Remember that time Nobel Prize winner Paul Krugman predicted the internet would have a similar effect on the economy as the fax machine did?
Do you think the Nobel committee looks at Krugman and feels embarrassed, or do you think they were fucking with us all along and have a good laugh?
Considering they followed up by giving Obama a peace prize I think they’re just typical retarded progressives.
It's the kulaks I know it
Can someone explain to me why price gouging is a problem now but wasn't a problem while Trump was president?
It's Putin's Price Gouging
Then still Trump's fault, right?
Was it not? I feel like Price Gouging as a complaint is trotted out whenever anything happens.
Yeah, but they were gouging prices at like $3/gallon less back then. What gives? It couldn't be that they just didn't realize they could gouge so much because they were gouging almost as much during the Obama administration.
No, claims of price gouging are preemptive deflection of what is often an idiot tax. Decide to live on a hurricane coast, not prepare or not leave when warned, and then whine about paying extra for scarce stuff in the immediate aftermath?
https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1539976579014688768?t=KHJnWic1rIfFoL9NDTnrVA&s=19
Publix Super Markets announces they won't be offering COVID-19 vaccines to children under 5
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https://twitter.com/stevenvoiceover/status/1539736584253329409?t=KWpn3Ny3pspQPar0SJ65Ug&s=19
If The Original Top Gun Had Been Made Today...
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Funny stuff! There is a small trend of people "updating" movies for a new, more woke audience. Another great one is a remake of the business card scene from American Psycho - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1Xh5GhG86M&ab_channel=DocumentedMadness
I'm guessing it is a parody of something I haven't watched, I'm not a movie guy, but the pronouns on the cards Sie/Hir are awesome, as is the black fist with "White people shut up!" on it.
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1539673235981230080?t=tKKAWc11bcOb5VWB7VbQng&s=19
Biden: "To the companies running gas stations and setting those prices at the pump, this is a time of war, global peril, Ukraine. These are not normal times. Bring down the price you are charging at the pump. Do it now."
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A Penna. congresswoman (D) was shown on the news "wondering" if the greedy oil companies would be crass enough to not lower their prices and pocket the tax holiday windfall. Of course, the network didn't feature anyone with an opposing view, like maybe wondering if competition wouldn't actually drive the gas price down below what the tax holiday called for. These darn "what ifs..." and "it's possible that..." serve no purpose when only one side gets to spin its take on an issue or policy.
They serve a purpose, it's just one that furthers their war on you
I suspect Republican dirty tricks.
Florida's former Democratic "rising star", Andrew Gillum, is indicted
"Florida's former Democratic candidate for Governor Andrew Gillum, narrowly defeated four years ago by Republican Ron DeSantis, now faces indictment on campaign fraud charges."
#DeathSantis must have framed him. But I'm confident he'll be vindicated.
#LibertariansForGillum
Hope jeff doesn't see this. He will accuse you of trying to own the left.
and to think he was within a percentage point from winning.
we could have had ourselves a methed out federal felon
though I guess it is Florida...
The bitch set me up!
What scares me the most is that he as indicted at the federal level, by the Biden Justice Department. This means that DeathSantis has already infiltrated the highest levels of Democratic power.
Desantis style authoritarianism is here!
Don't underestimate the extent of Republican dirty tricks. If you read #Resistance Twitter you'll learn they've even "won" statewide races because of gerrymandering.
https://twitter.com/ElectionWiz/status/1539580144075083776?t=Y9ehYMYTkY0laTjYQjnDGA&s=19
Lindsey Graham sellouts for five years and then pretends to be conservative for a year. South Carolina Republicans buy his scam and send him back. The GOP Establishment is going to do what it does until and unless you punish them at the ballot box.
Yes, ENB, it quite authoritarian to tell companies that they cannot make their employees perform an auto de fe on how unconsciously racist they are based on the employee's race. (Rolls eyes).
Bake the cake or not?
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1539722096036773889?t=dza2B_HN8Dab9Jdv-9dQZQ&s=19
Parent claims there are students dressing up and acting like animals in her children’s school.
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I wonder what color they are going to use for furries when they add them to the LGBTQ+ flag.
Are there any colors left?
It's my understanding that this the most current iteration of the flag: https://www.them.us/story/progress-pride-flag-intersex-inclusive-makeover . Since they are putting shapes in now, I am sure they can just add paw print or something on there.
I like it.
Paw print right in the circle.
Then maybe they can get the Former Redskins to adopt the flag as their new helmets
seems like with every new iteration / color / stripe that gets added the left is increasing in mental derangement by 25%. The ceiling for which seems unlimited
Diaper White.
Well, do they have gender-neutral litter boxes?
No. Furries are allowed to use the litterboxes of whatever gender they identify as.
What are the odds that ENB didn't read the anti woke Bill?
Also will to bet complying with this bill will lower your esg score, which is the only reason these people care
"What are the odds that ENB didn't read the anti woke Bill?
1000%
What are the odds that ENB will never read the anti woke Bill? also 1000.
Why read it when the Twitterati tell her that it's icky and wrong. That's all she needs to know.
https://twitter.com/ZacBissonnette/status/1539946963965198339?t=ezRJbBak_yotg8Jmj0XOtA&s=19
A federal gas tax holiday is the cloth mask of energy policy.
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"government dictating how the owners of private companies that contract with public institutions can express their political concerns."
Isn't the core purpose of political activism to create and staff a government that can then dictate, with a scope of control ranging from practical operations to political doctrine?
Can we boycott forced cake baking?
Some truths cannot be known by mortal man, er, person.
DeSantis-style authoritarianism
This made me LOL.
What are we going to call Ron DeSantis Derangement Syndrome? I think DDS would be confusing. Maybe RDS- Ron Derangement Syndrome? Or FMDS- Florida Man Derangement Syndrome?
I personally like FMDS.
I also chuckled when I saw the "DeSantis-style authoritarianism". ENB letting the mask slip a little too much here. Apparently not being allowed to tell employees they are racist, sexist, oppressors and assign race based guilt is "authoritarianism". The civil rights act is a real bitch
As a victim of DeSantis style authoritarianism, I have to say... it's pretty nice
Floridamanbad
Free speech, how does it work?
Republican-style "free speech":
Republicans get to say whatever offensive speech they want, on any social media platform of their choice, and never suffer any negative consequences whatsoever.
Republicans also get to dictate to private companies the speech they are allowed to tell their employees on matters of race and sex.
So free speech is simple:
No one gets to tell Republicans what to say or not say.
Republicans get to tell everyone else what to say or not say.
thats funny, the law I read makes no mention of Repubs and they also have to live under the same law
Careful Jeffy. Your raging bias is showing today, more than usual...
also, why do you think laws prohibiting making race based statements and assigning collective racial guilt, through racist statements, is something that would hurt democrats?
Do Democrats have a certain propensity to make racist statements or something? Why would they have a particular problem keeping themselves from being racist? Do they want the civil rights act repealed?
Yes to all of the above.
But also, Jeff backs himself into stupid and indefensible positions and then resorts to calling everyone a big mean poopy-head. I assume that's what he's done here?
Nah, that is just the rallying cry of modern progressives: "Not letting us impose fascism is fascism!"
And “Everything Is So Terrible And Unfair!”
Can we just generalize it to Goldstein Derangement Syndrome?
That works. TDS and FMDS can be variants.
I vote for the simple and straightforward "envy".
Doesn’t lend itself to a cool acronym. Needs work.
When it comes to a new antitrust law reform bill sponsored by Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D–Minn.) and backed by other Democrats, "it seems likely the main reason the bill has significant Republican support is that they know the bill will be abused to file vexatious lawsuits over content moderation decisions, attempting to get around Section 230 by claiming the decisions were actually anti-competitive," Mike Masnick points out at Techdirt.
So..you're okay with the bill except that it is supported by Republicans for the wrong reasons? I haz a confuse...
https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/1539983585406484480?t=ZfP20PmPPT1ssaMrzFORwQ&s=19
It has become necessary to dissolve the Supreme Court of the United States.
The first step is for a state the "court" has now forced guns upon, to ignore this ruling.
Great. You're a court? Why and how do think you can enforce your rulings?
#IgnoreTheCourt
This sounds vaguely insurrection-y
The people all up in arms about the sanctity of democracy sure do seem OK with overthrowing govt institutions.
Not a whole lot of daylight between "violent insurrection!" and "RESIST!!!" nowadays.
Democracy doesn't mean actual representative government. It means "rule by democrats."
democracy to them means mob rule, as long as that mob happens to lean democrat. Anything else is Fascism
No, the mob has to obey their betters in every way. And business and other entities, too. But totally not fascism.
"It means "rule by democrats.""
A democratacy, if you will. (I won't)
When they say Our Democracy, they don't mean your democracy, they mean their own Democracy.
My Democracy controls you, your Democracy...hahahahahaha.
haha!!!
Don't take Olbermann serious. He's a mental midget, like Lying Jeffy.
https://twitter.com/JonathanTurley/status/1539991490285404161?t=SnviqccpbhqX1he0D_zPQw&s=19
New York Gov. Kathy Hochul: "Shocking, absolutely shocking that they have taken away our right to have reasonable restrictions." Since many of us were predicting this historical loss over a year ago, the shock is shocking... but familiar:
they have taken away our right to have reasonable restrictions
They took away our right to take away your rights!!!!!
Yeah, this sounds like Hochel-style authoritarianism. Right ENB? RIGHT!?!
This is like New Yorkers celebrating the freedom to have their property confiscated by the government and destroyed in the shadow of the Freedom Tower.
Politicians, particularly of her stripe, really have problems internalizing the "make no law" provisions of the Constitution.
"The latest challenge to DeSantis-style authoritarianism" - ENB
I wonder if ENB has ever said Biden-style authoritarianism. Haha, right. But totally NOT a far left progressive!!!
ya this is about as clear of a "OK I give up, ill just come out and admit im basically a democrat" as you can get.
Pretty well in the center of Pelosi-Schumer Democrats... Plus pro sex work!
I am not sure that counts as libertarian.
It's weird that 'Desantis-style authoritarianism' is represented by a bill passed by a democratically elected, representative legislative body.
Whereas, I guess, 'Biden-style authoritarianism' would be best represented by unconstitutional executive orders, bureaucratic administrative rule-making, (skip the normal process stuff like comment periods, tho!) and 'official guidance' pronouncements by the the President and other unelected officials in the executive branch acting unilaterally.
Both Sides.
Hmm, lessee. Who issued the original executive order enstating a moratorium on evictions? … Why, it was Donald Trump.
Yes, both sides. It’s crazy to support either major party.
Poor Dee.
You support democrats, almost unquestioningly.
No one mentioned Trump until you did. This was about 'Desantis-style' authoritarianism. Allegedly.
"Supreme Court overturns New York's concealed carry law in blow to gun reform advocates"
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"The U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday struck down as unconstitutional New York state's limits on carrying concealed handguns in public, handing a landmark victory to gun rights advocates in a nation deeply divided over how to address firearms violence.
The 6-3 ruling, with the court's conservative justices in the majority and liberal justices in dissent, found that the state's law, enacted in 1913, violated a person's right to "keep and bear arms" under the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment..."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-supreme-court-guns-1.6498806
Thank you, Donald Trump.
Yeah, despite how anxious people are getting, Gun Jurisprudence is in many ways the best it's been in my lifetime. Maybe in the history of the US. Which is good, because the culture war side of it is definitely getting worse.
Lauren Boebert finds out the hard way that freedom of association is a bitch.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/is-it-last-call-for-lauren-boeberts-gun-restaurant
This is retarded, even for you.
He’s broken. He’s gone full lefty spaz.
Yet you want to groom 5 year olds. No freedom of association for small children, eight Jeffy?
"The latest challenge to DeSantis-style authoritarianism:"
Be proud, ENB. The Klan ALSO vigorously opposed stopping the forced indoctrination of bigotry amongst employees.
The question is, does a private company have a constitutional right to a contract?
If a company publicly funds or supports the pro Russia (not necessarily Putin's war efforts) side, can the government deny them contracts on that basis? Can they pass laws that essentially enforce loyalty pledges to Ukraine?
I'd prefer these laws to be struck down. In that case, I think Chick Fil A (or concerned civil liberties) organizations to sue states that denied them market entry due to the owner's religious beliefs.
The court was correct about one thing: a boycott isn't speech, though urging others to join one is. But the plaintiff should win his case on other grounds.
#1 is simply his property rights, which entitle him to refrain from trade with any person or group he wants, for any or no reason. #2 is freedom of association. Both are absolute moral rights.
In addition, the pledge requirement constitutes restraint of trade, a violation of antitrust law by the government. If the law doesn't apply to them it needs to be made to.
Reason has multiple law professors working for it at the Volokh Conspiracy. Why do we have to get amateur hour constitutional legal analysis from a senior editor?