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Americans Abandoning Free Speech Better Brace for the Consequences

Government will happily suppress misinformation in favor of misinformation of its own.

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In the panicked aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, the powers-that-be dusted off wish lists of surveillance-state powers and began monitoring and tracking us in ways that affect our lives two decades later. The political turbulence of recent years, culminating in the Capitol riot on January 6, may similarly liberate the political class to do its worst—this time with free speech as the target. The effort will likely again enjoy support from members of the public eager to surrender their freedom.

"We need to shut down the influencers who radicalize people and set them on the path toward violence and sedition," argued columnist Max Boot in The Washington Post. His solution? Carriers should drop Fox News and other conservative cable news outlets if they don't stop spreading "misinformation." Boot also believes that "Biden needs to reinvigorate the FCC" to impose British-style controls over the news—never mind that the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) doesn't have the authority to regulate cable outlets that it has over broadcasters that use public airwaves.

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) agrees that the public needs to be protected from speech she considers false and misleading. "We're going to have to figure out how we rein in our media environment so that you can't just spew disinformation and misinformation," she insisted.

Challenging the value of unrestrained speech and debate has become something of a cottage industry. After the ugly exchanges that erupted in the Capitol riot, CNN pointed out that "questions emerge about unrestrained free expression, long championed by First Amendment theorists as a benefit to society, no matter how ugly and hateful." The network quoted scholars who conclude that the Internet and free speech protections make it too easy to exchange bad ideas.

None of these fans of speech restrictions explicitly advocate suppression of activists or ideologies; they favor controls on what they claim are false, extremist, or misleading communications. But they don't explain why reversing speech protections would accomplish their goals when misinformation existed long before modern jurisprudence, filling the pages of the country's newspapers and fueling political contests despite legal peril. Nor do they explain why they're so eager to hand more control over speech to government officials who have a historically rocky relationship with truth.

There's former President Donald Trump himself, of course, who is at the center of much of the current controversy over speech and who has a history as a serial fabulist on matters from trade to immigration to elections. A "reinvigorated" FCC exercising the powers of Max Boot's imagination would have been run by commissioners appointed, in part, by him.

That more-intrusive FCC would also have been run by commissioners appointed by Trump's predecessor, President Barack Obama. Obama, too, had a problem telling the truth about issues ranging from health care to government records and earned "the lie of the year" label from PolitiFact in 2013.

Government officials even lie to each other, as then-Director of National Intelligence James Clapper did to Congress to conceal the inconvenient truth about domestic surveillance by the NSA.

Protections for free speech, it's worth pointing out, aren't some perfect counter to false and extreme ideas. Instead, they're a recognition of core individual rights. But they're also a pragmatic acknowledgment that putting government agencies in charge of suppressing misinformation just gives one team of bullshit artists an advantage over their less-powerful competitors.

Some fans of speech suppression think they've found a solution in privatized muzzling.

"Large cable companies such as Comcast and Charter Spectrum, which carry Fox News and provide much of its revenue in the form of user fees, need to step in and kick Fox News off," urges Boot. CNN emphasizes that "the First Amendment protects against government, not private organizations, stymieing expression."

It's absolutely true that private companies have the right to control who uses their platforms and how they do so. But let's remember that there's an unpleasant history of them exercising the censor's pencil as proxies for dominant political factions, either out of sympathy or as a result of legal arm-twisting.

After evolving First Amendment jurisprudence made it safer for print media to criticize politicians, then-President Franklin Delano Roosevelt infamously held radio licenses hostage in return for positive coverage. "It did not take long for broadcasters to get the message," historian David Beito wrote for Reason in 2017. "NBC, for example, announced that it was limiting broadcasts 'contrary to the policies of the United States government.'"

That practice has become increasingly popular as a means for governments to evade accusations that they're muzzling critics.

"Of course, Twitter is a private company," Russian opposition leader Alexey Navalny cautioned after the tech giant suspended Donald Trump's account in the wake of the Capitol riot. "But we have seen many examples in Russian and China of such private companies becoming the state's best friends and the enablers when it comes to censorship."

The ultimate risk is that respect for free-wheeling speech is devalued in the eyes of many as a thing to be cherished in itself. Instead, it may become a resented obstacle to be worked around by innovators who aren't bound by allegedly archaic legal protections. They can then feel virtuous in suppressing expression they consider bad, or hateful, or an example of "misinformation."

If popular support for free speech continues to erode, it's difficult to see how legal protections survive for long without foundations in the wider society. A culture of free speech can't prevail if the culture comes to prefer censorship. Eventually, people who've come to believe it's better to challenge "bad" ideas not with other ideas but with a muzzle will erase or reinterpret protections for speech.

Then, government officials with wish lists of expanded powers ready to go will eagerly step in to save the country from "influencers who radicalize people." The influencers will take their communications to underground channels or else adopt the martyr role of dissidents. And officials will try to suppress misinformation from those influencers in favor of misinformation of their own.

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  1. It’s ok when your team does it!

    Biden information police bad!

    Trump information police good!

    1. I mean… principles? Ha!

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      2. It’s bad when anyone does it. Go Team Purple!

        1. Purple is a mix of Red and Blue. In political terms, wouldn’t that mean the worst of both worlds? Why not make the the libertarian battle-cry: “Go Transparent Gadsden Flag?”

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          3. Yes, that would mean the worst of both worlds in some ways. It is better to be neither too liberal nor too conservative. In some ways conservatism is good, in some ways it’s bad and the same goes for liberalism. Republicans and Democrats believe in Freedom of Speech when it suits them and don’t believe in it when it doesn’t suit them. Most people from both parties lie about the reasons for war, drone strikes, torture and sanctions.

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    3. Government will happily suppress misinformation in favor of misinformation of its own.Then, government officials with wish lists of expanded powers ready to go will eagerly step in to save the country from “influencers who radicalize people……………. MORE DETAIL.

    4. Remind me again which “Trump information police” ever suggested, let alone actually accomplished, the total and widespread censorship of political opponents. Better yet, name one single person who was censored, cancelled, doxxed, or unmasked by the Trump administration. Remind me again how many journalists were jailed by Trump under the espionage act.

      1. Obama tapped twenty Associated Press office phone lines and the homes and phones of reporters, but Sarcasmic thinks that’s okay because Trump tweeted mean things about Don Lemon.

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      4. Trump’s Religious Right supporters have always supported anti-pornography laws and anti-blasphemy laws. The Religious Right may not be calling for their enforcement now, but these laws are still on the books in many jurisdictions and ready to be used when political tides turn.

        1. So in other words, the Trump administration didn’t do a thing. “Just you wait” answers isn’t gonna cut it, boy.

        2. “Trump’s Religious Right supporters have always supported anti-pornography laws and anti-blasphemy laws.”

          Some s0me people whop support Trump also support bad laws, and therefore TRUMP!!!!!?
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    6. LOL. SO BROKEN.

      Man, good stuff.

      1. He has no sense of self when it comes to Trump. His entire personality has been consumed by the man and he lives only to focus on Trump.

        I guess some slaves welcome their chains. Gives them a purpose they’d otherwise lack.

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        Wait…

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      God, you’re a fucking loser. Go have another drink, rummy.

  2. Americans Abandoning Free Speech Better Brace for the Consequences

    That’s an oxymoron. An America that abandons free speech is no longer America.

    Can you seriously name another characteristic that has so succinctly defined America for over 200 years?

    1. Racism.

      #stopthehate

      1. https://reason.com/2021/01/28/the-constitutional-argument-against-trumps-senate-trial-is-convenient-is-it-also-wrong/#comment-8730868

        **“Geiger Goldstaedt
        January.28.2021 at 6:07 pm
        Dog whistle.

        Everything Trump said for 4 years was code for “kill niggers.”**

        1. Concern trolls belong in gay rehabilitation facilities, and by “gay rehabilitation facitiliies,” I mean prison … and by “prison” I mean the white supremacist mah-jong tourneys where you faggots meet weekly to cry about your feels.

          1. cry more

            1. Is that going to get me a premium membership in your club for faggots?

              1. yes like that now cry even more

                1. Do I have to swipe my membership card in your ass upon entry, or do you swipe it my ass?

                  1. yes dance monkey

                    cry even more now

                    1. Do I have to pay for my own cymbals, or what?

                    2. dance again cry more

                    3. DilIinger
                      January.29.2021 at 3:05 pm

                      “I love faggots”

                    4. yes like that cry even more now

                    5. DiIlinger
                      January.29.2021 at 3:15 pm

                      “Can’t stop eating ass. I just can’t.”

                    6. i love how upset you are cry a lot now

                    7. DiIlinger
                      January.29.2021 at 3:15 pm

                      “I can do this all day, because being a faggot in real life is not enough.”

                    8. yes monkey dance and cry just like that

                    9. DiIlinger
                      January.29.2021 at 3:22 pm

                      “The wheels on the faggot bus that is my life go round and round …. round and round ….”

                    10. yes dance monkey now reply and cry at me

                    11. DilIinger
                      January.29.2021 at 3:26 pm

                      “Faggots of Fallujah once sponsored a dinner I attended. Guess what? We had to eat with our hands! But, you’ll never guess WHAT they made us eat! Good times.”

                    12. He told you to reply and you did.

                    13. and then he ran away!

      2. https://reason.com/2021/01/28/the-constitutional-argument-against-trumps-senate-trial-is-convenient-is-it-also-wrong/#comment-8731194

        **Geiger Goldstaedt
        January.28.2021 at 10:05 pm
        That’s the same idiot that runs around here pretending to be everyone else.

        And, for the record, I myself say nigger regularly, but always to prove a point.

        Concern troll twat.**

        1. “but always to prove a point.”

          That you’re a racist and know you can’t compete in the modern world?

          1. Don’t break your neck trying to measure how high these things went over your head.

            1. you measure with your neck? lol the racist is so mad he isn’t even making sense!

              1. Oh, no! I did a racism. You say that like it’s a bad thing. Quick, throw down the ban hammer, faggot.

                1. he measures with his neck!

                  1. So does your mom.

                    1. with his neck!

                    2. “So does your mom.”

                      So you suck dick like his mom?

                      What a stupid admission.

                    3. Got a problem with homsexuals, faggot? Fucking racist jew.

                    4. Why so mad no one is judging you for sucking dick.

                    5. damiksec
                      January.29.2021 at 3:00 pm
                      “So does your mom.”

                      So you suck dick like his mom?

                      What a stupid admission.

                      Sounds like judgment to me, racist.

                    6. he measures with his neck!

                    7. So you don’t know the difference between an admission and sucking dick?

                      That tracks actually.

                      One is what you just did here, and one is what you said you do like his mom does.

                      HTH

                    8. He measures

                      with

                      his neck!

                    9. Sucking dick is the price of admission. Let’s break it down ontologically!

                      You faggots are persistent, I’ll give you that.

                    10. You’ve got some of me on your chin.

                    11. with

                      his

                      neck!

                    12. On my neck beard, faggot.

                    13. Geiger Goldstaedt
                      January.29.2021 at 3:15 pm
                      Sucking dick is the price of admission

                      Kamala?

                    14. Yes exactly on your neckbeard you probably want to wipe it before it dries and you have to cut it out.

                    15. She is the first blackish prostitute VP, and you have the fucking nerve to impugn her reputation?

                      It’s almost like you’re not even remotely concerned about going to prison.

                    16. He measures with his neck!!!

                    17. Hand me a towel, or your underwear. Syphilitic jizz tends to be particularly viscous, just like all that glue you ate as a kid.

                    18. Ok they made you suck dick in prison and that’s where you learned to love it, gotcha.

                    19. with his neck!!!

                    20. No need to be so envious. They’ll make you sick dick too. Maybe even more than one at a time.

                    21. That was my dick you were sucking in prison.

                      Glad you liked it.

                    22. how could he measure with your dick in his neck!

                    23. Ourbourous
                      January.29.2021 at 3:28 pm
                      how could he measure with your dick in his neck!

                      Self-explanatory!

                    24. he measures with his neck!!!

                      unless he has a dick in it!!!

                    25. self-explanartory!

                    26. Oooof.

                      Sock confused yourself, didn’t you? LOL

                      So broken.

                    27. did you see me make him dance!

                      So lol

                    28. i did he even replied like you told him

                    29. When you’re done spoofing everyone’s handle on this entire website, you can untie your balls. Until then, don’t worry about that deep purple color. That’s normal. So is the numbness. And the desire to fuck men.

                    30. looks like we both made hom dance

                    31. Ha! he’s so mad he’s trying the “you’re a meany sockpuppet” shit hahahah

                    32. Face it cum’a chameleon — I’m better at this than you are.

                    33. IKR? sad!!!

                    34. You’re better at sucking dick? Did anyone question that?

                    35. with his neck!

                    36. hey you said something I said to mock an idiot that means we’re the same person!

                      /guy who measures with his neck

                    37. with his neck!

                    38. with his neck!

                    39. “So broken”

                      Why do you sock and then use the same phrases your other sock uses?

          2. Lol. In a post on free speech, no less.

    2. Gunz!

    3. An America that abandons free speech is no longer America.

      Sure it is. Do you think that amending the First Amendment would be accompanied by a name change or something?

      This is part of the problem with the discourse today – there are those who see America as a constantly changing, constantly evolving place, and then there are those who see America as this fixed unerring ideal that is being corrupted by those currently in charge. We can’t even decide what “America” means.

      1. Part of the reason for the confusion on your part is that you are a Canadian from the greater Toronto area who used to use the handle “cytotoxic”, and haven’t even the faintest passing familiarity with American constitutional law.

        1. Someday I would like to meet this cytotoxic fellow. He seems like an interesting chap.

          1. Goosestepping authoritarians are Jeff’s “interesting chaps”.
            He must’ve found the Brownshirt’s fascinating.

          2. You’re not.

      2. If you dismiss morals and ideals for “constantly changing, constantly evolving”, then there’s a good chance that you’re a grifter and that those morals and ideals were inconvenient for your grift.

        1. Didn’t you jerk off to all the terrorists trying to overthrow the United States?

          1. No, because that didn’t happen, you fascist shill.
            Take your phony Reichstag Fire and your authoritarian countermeasures and cram them up your ass, Herr Goebbels.

            1. It has been happening, in all the ris and looting perpetrated by antifa and BLM.

          2. No one did because it only gave the left a reason for its constant overreach. Those rioters very unfortunately caused more of our freedom to be eroded.

      3. But Jeff there are certain things that are core to what America is, or at least to what it’s supposed to be. The Bill of Rights is #1 on the list of those certain things.

        Change any of those and you change America. A lot. At what point does it become a different place. If the first amendment is wiped out it’s not really America any more. You can call it anything you want, but it’s something completely different.

      4. We can’t even decide what “America” means.

        What do you mean by “we”, keemosabee?

        There was a guy who wrote some words that other guys agreed with and they all signed a paper that defined what America was going to be:

        “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

        That was based on this:

        “That all men are by nature equally free and independent and have certain inherent rights, of which, when they enter into a state of society, they cannot, by any compact, deprive or divest their posterity; namely, the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety.”

        You cannot amend the unalienable rights in the Bill of Rights. That is what unalienable means. That is what America means.

      5. https://reason.com/2021/01/28/the-constitutional-argument-against-trumps-senate-trial-is-convenient-is-it-also-wrong/#comment-8730868

        “Geiger Goldstaedt
        January.28.2021 at 6:07 pm
        Dog whistle.

        Everything Trump said for 4 years was code for “kill niggers.””

        1. But it was!

          1. cry more

            1. Am I in the club yet, faggot?

              1. yes dance like you’re told

                cry more now

                1. DilIinger
                  January.29.2021 at 2:57 pm

                  “I’m a faggot”

                  1. When are you going ro switch back to your RabbiHarveyWeinstein sock?

      6. The problem with America today is uneducated fat children think their post modern thought processes are valid intellectual discourse.

    4. The United States Congress.

  3. “If popular support for free speech continues to erode, it’s difficult to see how legal protections survive for long without foundations in the wider society. A culture of free speech can’t prevail if the culture comes to prefer censorship.”

    Spot on.

    Anxiously awaiting the usual suspects to come parading through town any second now to explain why broadly accepted social media censorship and noxious cancel culture is just deserts for racist assholes and does not in any manner implicate the First Amendment because, after all, being an asshole means the government has an obligation to throw you in prison to preserve good vibes.

    1. being an asshole means the government has an obligation to throw you in prison to preserve good vibes.

      No one here argues this position. It is a strawman. Just put it to rest already.

      What I’d like to see, are for those who continually scream about “Free Speech” and “First Amendment” when Twitter or Facebook does something they don’t like, is how they would reconcile their demands for free speech on private property, while also respecting private property rights of those involved.

      If you are going to demand that Twitter follow the First Amendment then you are trampling on Twitter’s private property rights, let alone their association rights and their free speech rights to not be compelled to host speech they don’t want.

      So what is your solution? Destroy Twitter’s private property rights in the pursuit of some noble social goal of a ‘free speech culture’ that all will be forced to adopt, one way or another? How is this not the same as the progressive social engineering that you all rail against?

      1. Speak when you are spoken to, gimp. Now get back in the box.

        1. Right, you can’t answer, all you can do is bitch and moan and scream ‘help help I’m being oppressed’. Well you all are not nearly as funny as a Monty Python skit.

          1. I said speak, when you are spoken to. That means fuck off. I’ve taken you to school enough times, as has everyone else, for you not to understand that the only thing you are going to get out of this is a fucking beating.

            1. Oh look, yet another Internet Tough Guy.
              Maybe you should hook up with Nardz, he keeps threatening to murder all the progressives, any day now. Any. Day. Now.

              1. Back in the box, gimp.

                1. You’ve been completely and thoroughly defeated. not even going to try to square the circle of property rights vs 1a? I mean, I can’t do it, which is why I arrive at the position I hold. But you need to do that if you want to have the opinion you do and be philosophically consistent.

                  1. There’s no more room in Jeff’s box, so it looks like you’ll need one of your own.

                  2. Lol. You forgot to switch socks again you stupid cunt.

                    1. LOL seems to be the case

                    2. There is no way two posters could comment on the same conversation without proving that they are one and the same! You did it!

                      Clever, clever boy! clap clap clap

                    3. You literally referred to yourself in the first person on a different account you dumb cunt. And as I mentioned downthread, this isn’t even within the first dozen times you’ve outed this sock. I just enjoy pointing it out and watching you thrash around like a wounded insect.

                    4. >>De Oppresso Liber
                      January.29.2021 at 1:17 pm
                      There is no way two posters

                      we’ve always know it was you jeff

                    5. Interesting, it looks like fatjeff is gone and de expresso leche came to replace him though. To me that looks like a sock switch.

                      Besides, fakebook and twatter are getting to the point where they’re private-ish. Something is obviously wrong with the way they mess with politics and democracy. So they shouldn’t be whiny snowflakes when people become aware of this shit and want it to stop.

                    6. You guys are wrong about everything.

                      But I am a sport, and enjoy a wager.

                      I will prove who I am to a neutral 3rd (soldiermedic comes to mind). You will leave this message board forever when that 3rd confirms I am who I say I am. If for some reason that 3rd reports I am not who I say I am, then I will leave forever.

                      We can also add any $$ amount you wish to the wager.

                    7. You and cuntjeff and sarcasmic already played this game. You lose every time.

                    8. Jesus Christ, how butthurt do you have to be to come up with a scheme like that and having to prove it to a bunch of unimportant people on the internet, who are represented by no more than a string of letters?

                      Expresso, really how desperate are you? 😀

          2. Jeffy, every point you have ever made here has been answered a dozen times over, or more. Yet you recycle your shitposted talking points endlessly. So it’s not that no one can answer you, it’s just that you are such an object of disrespect, ridicule and scorn that it is more logical to insult you.

        2. Girly-Man Girlshit feeds his leftover, stale girlshit cookies to his strawmen, in hopes that his strawmen will grow up big and strong. Sad to say for Girly-Man Girlshit, most of us, AND his strawmen, do NOT like his girlshit cookies!

          1. Retard.

            1. Seek Jesus, Geiger.

              1. Meant to direct that at jeff. Whoops

          2. Hey look, sarcasmic’s sock agrees with cytotoxic’s 3rd sock.

            1. And you are, of course, the real Johnnie Cochran.

              1. Lol. I’m as much Johnnie Cochran as you are an individualist. But thanks for admitting to your sockpuppeting. It wasn’t necessary, but I still appreciate it.

          3. Cheese vomit post.

      2. What I’d like to see, are for those who continually scream about “Free Speech” and “First Amendment” when Twitter or Facebook does something they don’t like, is how they would reconcile their demands for free speech on private property, while also respecting private property rights of those involved.

        Fuck you. Bakers, jewelers, photographers, and even fucking pizzerias can’t claim to be a private business, they can’t claim free speech, they have to claim religious freedom and even then shitheads like you decry it as a meaningless foil for their bigotry. But when Google, Facebook, Amazon, Twitter, etc. openly engage in censorship and antitrust, suddenly you discover free speech and property rights.

        You don’t want people to observe property rights. You don’t give a shit about any hipocrisy unless it advances the authoritarian positions that you’re, hypocritcally, pretending you don’t support.

        1. Are you completely done trying to stuff words in my mouth?

          Bakers, jewelers, et al. absolutely do have private property rights, just like every other private property owner. If Richard Spencer walked into a bakery and shouted “Fuck the Jews” that baker should have every right to kick him out of the store – i.e., CENSOR him – based on their private property rights. If you want to force Twitter to tolerate all speech on its property, then you are the one who is also, in principle, telling all bakers that they must accept all offensive speech on their property as well.

          And you don’t even have an objection to my argument, all you have is fake cries of hypocrisy.

          1. yup.

            1. Lol. Here we see cytotoxic replying to himself with his other sock to try to make up for accidentally outing himself upthread.

              Good work bro, nobody can tell!

              We’ve also conveniently forgotten that you spent the last 8 years advocating for anti-discrimination laws that violate every principle you now supposedly support when it applies to a government-created tech oligopoly in silicon valley.

              1. Look, I know you’ve completely failed to make an argument, and you know it. That must sting. I’m sorry.

                1. Your inability to comprehend what is being said is not an indictment of my argument. Thanks for admitting upthread that you’re socking btw.

                2. ok jeff

            2. But if said baker does not want to provide speech they disagree with…?

              Pretty sure Masterpiece had to go with animus to his religion as opposed to free speech.

              1. Thank god only freedom of religion, and not freedom of speech, is protected by the First Amendment.

                1. Indeed. Our SCOTUS is a useless organization as bad as Congress. Roberts is the the worst justice since Warren.

                2. It is evident that you do not believe in either.

          2. Your argument is devoid of actual argumentation since you once again ignore the contractual issues and swap 1a with legal protections for this industry.

            If a baker contracted with someone to bake a cake and then reneged on it due to the speech or actions of the other person, your have a point.

            But what you want is extra legal protections for an entity that won’t extend those same protections down river. Solely because they attack speech you disagree with.

        2. +100

        3. So you don’t know about the civil rights act and protected classes?

          You might not like it, but that is the law. You need to understand that if you want to understand the gay wedding cake scenario vs current twitter bans. I agree that it is bullshit that the government gets to choose who can be discriminated against, but so it goes. You ought to acknowledge that being born black or gay is different than saying things that make people not like you.

          And I agree that Google, Apple, Facebook could all be hit with anti trust suits, but that isn’t happening because the alternative to US internet giants is chinese internet giants, and no one wants to go there.

          1. Special pleading by means of argument from authority. You really are a pathetic, bootlicking, Nazi piece of shit. It would be hilariously fucking watching you bleed on the street with your LARPing buddies when the shit hits the fan, if you weren’t a morbidly obese piece of shit who lives in Toronto and can’t get out of his front door.

            1. I’ll put you down as “no”.

              1. ::sprays hose::

                Did you like that? Are we done? Don’t make me halve your rations of dog food. I don’t want that. Nobody wants that. Now get back in the box like a good girl.

                1. Why do you guys always have such apparent and disgusting violent fantasies?

                  For a group of people who are constantly having to assert that you are not Nazis, you sure do sound like them frequently.

                  I know the answer. I mean, not specifically why, but in general you are a broken person with a personality disorder. Might be an overbearing mother, an abusive father, a head injury, or whatever, but you need help.

                  1. Because it demeans you, which is all you deserve for your stupidity. Now, get back in the fucking box.

                    1. How fat are you? How many fedoras do you own?

                    2. You’ve already confessed to being morbidly obese dude. Tread lightly.

                    3. Oh shit. The fatwit is calling others fat.

                    4. “You’ve already confessed to being morbidly obese dude. Tread lightly.”

                      I see what you did there. Nice.

                  2. Why do you guys always have such apparent and disgusting violent fantasies?

                    You literally called for Apache attack helicopters to gun down Trump supporters.

          2. I’m bald, I’m ugly, and I’m fat. 2 out of those 3, I can do nothing about, and the 3rd, not that much. I have as much “negativity” thrown at me by society and individuals for those immutable characteristics, as do black and gay people for the way they were born.

            A good looking in-shape black guy (even a gay one) is wayyyy further ahead than me in so many walks of life. So why are they so special?

      3. jUSt stArT yoUr OwN twItTeR!!!!!!

        *Gab and Parler get shut down, debanked, de-hosted, and de-platformed*

        jUSt StArT YoUR oWN bAnK aND pAymENt pROceSsoR AnD clOuD hOSt aNd doMaIN rEgIstRar anD iNTeRneT SerVIce PrOVidER!!!!!!!!

        Make you a deal. When a racist can decline to hire black people, and churches are allowed to hold 1A protected religious services, and bakers can tell faggots to get out of their store, then we can have a serious talk about Twitter’s “private property right” to arbitrarily enforce their rules in violation of their own terms of service.

        1. Amen.

        2. It’s pretty easy. Don’t facilitate an attempted insurrection, and you get to keep your creationist-twitter.

          1. I won’t hold my breath for any such consequences of the mostly peaceful Burn Loot Murder protests all last year.

            1. You mean rubber bullets, tear gas and whatnot? Plenty of that has happened.

              Or do you mean the snowflake-melting, kids-glove treatment of social media bans?

              1. How many unarmed BLM rioters were shot through the throat and killed?

                1. 0. There is a 0 protestor to 30 deaths ratio at blm.

                  They even got a half dozen plazas named after then for the 30 murders.

          2. But wait, I thought social media platforms had no culpability for the content posted by their users? Isn’t that what your vaunted Section 230 is all about?

            Not mentioning, of course, that no one facilitated insurrection. But even if we did accept your complete and total fabrication as a hypothetical reality, you’re still eating opposite sides of the same turd.

          3. Lol. Retarded leftists are still claiming 30 unarmed people in the Capitol for half an hour is an insurrection. Lol.

            Btw stolen Valor, may want to check up on those pipe bombs you said the protesters had… planted the night before. Not brought by the protesters.

            1. 30?

              Are you really being this fucking disingenuous?

              Do I need to link video of the I dunno, 1000 or so inside the capitol building and the many more outside? Some of them beating a cop with an american flag pole.

            2. The ones you said did not exist? The ones that did, in fact, exist?

              I wonder why you are constantly minimizing what happened on Jan 6th? Oh, that’s right. Your cult finally dropped the mask for real, and we all got to see what lunatics y’all are.

          4. Not sure “Don’t say what I don’t like you saying” is much of a defense of your free speech bona fides.

            Hint: You do not need free speech for “popular” speech.

        3. And you can start your own twitter, and you can host it yourself, or in Russia. Don’t expect amazon and twitter’s stock holders to subsidize your retard coup.

          1. That’s weird, I thought you were all about private property rights, cytotoxic. Isn’t breaking a contract for services kind of a violation of property rights?

            1. No it isn’t. It’s a broken contract, and the courts are set up specifically to deal with that.

              Read some fucking Hayak or something, man. You are on a libertarian message board. At least know the basis.

          2. So…. stolen Valor applauds market collusion. Openly now.

            1. “market collusion”

              Tell us more about how you have no concept of property rights. Or just explain how this “market collusion” is different than a boycott. Or tell us what proof you have of “market collusion” in the first place. Or tell us how the government would force twitter to host people they don’t want to is not an assertion of positive rights.

              You have no argument. So make one, or fuck off.

            2. And you know the terms or the wager, Jesse.

              You are a libelous coward. Prove me wrong.

          3. Yet, the “coup” was, you know, plotted on Twitter and Facebook, not on Parler.

            Anything else?

        4. This is such a childish response. “Unless the liberty that *I* like is respected as much as *I* think it should be, then no one else should have their liberty respected at all!”

          There are a lot of injustices in the world, and demanding that every injustice be cured instantly otherwise none will be, is a completely stupid idea.

          1. “Unless the liberty that *I* like is respected as much as *I* think it should be, then no one else should have their liberty respected at all!”

            No, as long as restrictions of liberty apply to one person, they should apply to all people, and if you don’t like it, you should work on removing the restrictions, not histrionically whinging like a cunt because you like watching somebody else’s ox being gored.

            1. So because someone somewhere lives in oppression, all should be oppressed equally? That is the mentality of a child, not a sentient human being. Maybe you are a bot. It would explain a lot.

              1. That should be “sentient adult”, of course.

              2. You literally defended Biden stopping arms sales to SA yesterday over Yemeni while supporting China doing whatever the fuck they want even though they are committing genocide. You have no morals. You have politics.

      4. If you are going to demand that Twitter follow the First Amendment then you are trampling on Twitter’s private property rights, let alone their association rights and their free speech rights to not be compelled to host speech they don’t want.

        As long as the Civil Rights Act exists, then yes, Twitter deserves to have their association rights trampled on.

        Not a surprise that you’re actually dumb enough to believe that a social media platform and someone’s house are equivalent. I can literally shoot someone if they come on my property uninvited and don’t leave when I tell them to leave.

        1. Once again, the infantile strategy of “if I can’t play ball then no one can”.

          1. How do you assume to have horrible rules removed if everybody is not required to live under them?

            1. By advocating to get rid of the horrible rules, not by forcing even more people to be oppressed by horrible rules.

              1. That has often worked well.

                One side is not remotely inconvenienced by these rules so they are, of course, not going to care. At all.

                Not much going to change there.

                1. It actually has. Look at the civil rights movement. The civil rights protestors demonstrated to the world how unjust the status quo was, and that created a public demand to correct the injustices of Jim Crow.

                  The white majority in the Jim Crow South was not inconvenienced by Jim Crow, and yet they eventually changed their tune anyway.

                  Your strategy however is doing the exact opposite. You are entrenching and justifying the injustices by spreading them around. You legitimize the injustice as a valid tool of oppression when you do that. It would be as if, instead of Emancipation and the Civil Rights Act, we got instead the Racial Revenge Act and blacks got to enslave whites in the South for 300 years. That doesn’t end slavery as an immoral abomination, that only normalizes slavery as moral because it would then be universal. That is what you are doing with your strategy. Because in the end, you don’t really want to end the injustice, you instead just want to be the guy holding the whip.

          2. Once again, the “principled libertarians” show they doesn’t actually have any principles if it would involve real, actual confrontation.

            1. Buddy, you’re the one taking the position that Twitter deserves to suffer because your buddies are also suffering. That’s not principled, that’s just vengeance porn.

      5. From Twitter’s corporate “about” page:

        Our company – Twitter is an open service that’s home to a world of diverse people, perspectives, ideas, and information.

        OUR PURPOSE – We serve the public conversation.

        We live by the following principles: Promoting health – Freedom of speech is a fundamental human right — but freedom to have that speech amplified by Twitter is not. Our rules exist to promote healthy conversations.

        Here is the thing: The platform Twitter provides doesn’t amplify a fucking thing. The invited users of Twitter, i.e., the public, amplify an individual’s speech by reading it, responding to it, or retweeting it. They claim to provide a service, amplification, that is not inherent in their platform, but in the users of the platform. When they kick users, they are not “open”. When they attach disclaimers and delete words, they are not allowing a “public conversation”. Their mission statement is a lie. Their advertising is false.

        A few things to note: Twitter has no property rights in their users speech. Twitter has no property rights in what their users choose to amplify. Everyone needs to quit pretending Twitter owns anything except the servers and interface. They certainly don’t own the public sphere they are regulating.

        Here is the solution: They can provide a platform in exchange for user’s data, i.e., honor the contract, or they can give the data back. They can act as a public platform, which affords them 230 protection, or they can act as a publisher.

      6. TL;DR This is what contracts are for

        I feel twitter should be free to kick Trump off their platform. But, the government should withdraw all of its official accounts from the platform. Our government is under no obligation to continue using Twitter. Especially if they have been claiming that they have had government immunity for the claims they have made on Twitter, then clearly the use was a part of their official capacity.

        This is the sort of thing that should be in the right of the citizens to demand of the government. We’re talking about the actions that they are taking. Either get a contract in place that twitter is not allowed to remove any official government account, or they are not allowed to have any government accounts. We respect the property rights of both parties. I’m actually astonished that sort of verbiage wasn’t already in place.

        The aspect I find far more worrisome is the Parler AWS shenanigans. More importantly, the judges complete dismissal of the contract in favor of party politics.

      7. So what is your solution? Destroy Twitter’s private property rights in the pursuit of some noble social goal of a ‘free speech culture’.

        You are absolutely correct here but it wasn’t Twitter who made the call to censor; It was DEMOCRATIC POLITICIANS!!!

        The panel’s Democratic chair, Rep. Frank Pallone (D-N.J.), had called Wednesday for the tech companies to “remove” Trump.

        Now perhaps it wasn’t by E.O. or Legislative Law; but with the way they’ve been dragging the company through hearings threatening prosecution — There is probably some kind of completely VALID conflict of interest there that should probably lead to an expulsion of Frank Pallone.

        1. Former First Lady Michelle Obama urged social media companies on Thursday to permanently ban President Trump from using their platforms.

          And lets not forget Pelosi’s major shareholding in Facebook.

          Obama: ‘Google, Facebook Would Not Exist’ Without Government Funding

          I’d say a massive investigation into “crony socialism” would be in order.

    2. And by the way.

      broadly accepted social media censorship and noxious cancel culture is just deserts for racist assholes

      No, social media censorship and noxious cancel culture are manifestations of OTHERS using THEIR liberty to express THEIR points of view. Whether it is “just” or not is an entirely different question.

      You want the liberty to speak your mind on the Internet? Fine. Absolutely. Everyone here would agree with this statement.

      But that same liberty that you demand for yourself also applies to me, and everyone else. You don’t get a free pass to speak your mind, but shut up everyone else who decides to speak THEIR minds in criticism of your speech.

      Liberty is messy and does not always produce results that we would all like. But part of being a libertarian is to defend liberty *for its own sake*, and not only when it produces results we like.

      1. Back in the box, gimp. Don’t make me fill it with cold water.

        1. The most simplistic, childish, and ultimately defeating for the movement libertarians are the ones who cannot fathom the concept of conflicting rights.

          1. ::grabs the hose::

            Are you really going to make me do this?

            1. Don’t threaten me with a good time.

              1. I will punch you right in your goiter. Keep it up.

                1. No you won’t.

                  1. I will fuck your goiter with chemjeff’s severed fingers then. Back in the box.

            2. Stooping to hand jobs, now?

              1. How quickly your facade falls off. Nothing to say about twitter’s property rights? They don’t stop existing just because they don’t fit into your argument.

                1. How much did their private property rights matter when the federal courts shut down portions of their service because they constituted an official communication channel of the federal government?

                  1. Trump chose to use twitter for official communications. The court ruled that Trump could no simultaneously use twitter for official communication and ban americans from those official communications.

                    You aren’t getting it, and are hostile to being informed. So, adieu. Enjoy your ignorance.

                    1. So, Twitter is government property?

                    2. No. And I’m not your special ed teacher.Go read the decision yourself.

                      https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Trump-Twitter-ca2.pdf

                    3. “Temporary control by the government can still be control for First Amendment purposes,” at p. 17, 5 – 6.

                      You are not qualified to teach special ed. Back in the box, gimp.

                    4. You are actually dumb.

                      Nowhere does it say that twitter is government property or any equivalent. It is saying that the president’s account is controlled by the government, since it is used for official communications, and therefor he cannot ban people from that account.

                    5. “The government’s contention that the President’s use of the Account during his presidency is private founders in the face of the uncontested evidence in the record of substantial and pervasive government involvement with, and control over, the Account.”

                    6. “The government’s contention that the President’s use of the Account during his presidency is private founders in the face of the uncontested evidence in the record of substantial and pervasive government involvement with, and control over, the Account.”

                      I can’t read it for you, gimp. But it’s as plain as fucking day.

                    7. They’re saying that Trump has no rights as an individual in this case because he is using the account for official purposes. Literally the opposite of what you think this means.

                    8. “They’re saying that Trump has no rights as an individual in this case because he is using the account for official purposes.”

                      So Twitter is government property.

          2. Actual rights are never in conflict. Negative liberty imposes no obligations on others. The most simplistic, childish, and ultimately defeating for the movement Marxists are idiots like you who are so incomprehensibly stupid that you can’t even understand your own ideology, yet feel the constant need to explain others’ ideology to them.

            Also, just eat the L and stick with the chemjeff handle, cytotoxic. I understand it’s embarrassing when you accidentally out yourself, but this isn’t even within the first dozen times you’ve done it.

            1. Me- “The most simplistic, childish, and ultimately defeating for the movement libertarians are the ones who cannot fathom the concept of conflicting rights.”

              Johnnie- “Actual rights are never in conflict.”

              I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: why do you guys always rush in to prove me right?

              1. Yes, cytotoxic/chemjeff, we all understand you are too stupid to comprehend the conversation. Thank you for the confirmation.

                1. Did you know you can actual get too much irony in your diet?

                  1. Did you know that when you have no argument and try to resort to red herrings it means you’re the loser?

            2. Rights conflict all the time. Ever tried walking down a sidewalk without making way for others?

              1. So, the existence of physical constraints in a physical world occupied by three dimensional beings proves that point?

                1. yes

                  1. ::heats up knife over stove::

                    I did not want to have to do this, but rules are rules.

                    1. Please do go on about your beautiful and fragrant neckbeard.

            3. Of course rights can be in conflict.

              Simple example: Alice has the right to own a gun, Bob has the right to own property. If Bob invites Alice onto his property, but with the stipulation that no weapons are allowed on Bob’s property, then whose rights should win out? Alice’s right to own a gun, or Bob’s right to exercise control over his property? Should Bob be forced to tolerate Alice’s gun on his property? Should Alice be forced to leave her gun at home while visiting Bob’s property?

              The libertarian answer, IMO, is that property rights win out, EXCEPT when attempting to enforce those property rights would lead to a violation of the NAP. So if Bob were to say “Alice, if you come on my property, I get to rape you”, then that would be an impermissible exercise of Bob’s property rights.

              Same deal here. Your ability to exercise your free speech rights is constrained by the wishes of the private property owner on whose property you are choosing to exercise those rights. At least that’s the way I see it.

              1. Of course rights can be in conflict.

                No, they can’t. Genuine rights are always compossible. Your example is shit. Alice’s right to own guns doesn’t interact at all with Bob’s right to private property. Neither Alice’s right to own guns or Bob’s right to private property impose any obligation to another person.

                1. So in my example above, whose right is the “genuine” right? Alice’s or Bob’s?

                  1. In your example both rights are genuine. Both parties have an equal choice when faced with each other’s company. If Bob feels strongly about not having guns on his property he can express that right to Alice. If Alice feels strongly about her right to have her gun with her at all times, Alice can express that feeling.
                    At that point both have a choice. Alice can choose to leave her gun at home if her want to visit Bob outweighs her need to have a gun with her at all times. OR Bob can choose to allow Alice on his property with a gun if his want for Alice’s company outweighs his need for his property.
                    Neither right has precedence. Both parties have choices. Ignore what they want, draw a line in the sand or compromise.

          3. are the ones who cannot fathom the concept of conflicting rights.

            This shitposting dog-robber has taken up Hihn’s mantle. Long live the King!

      2. You don’t get a free pass to speak your mind, but shut up everyone else who decides to speak THEIR minds in criticism of your speech.

        Because deplatforming in collusion with banks, ISPs, domain registrars, and payment processors is nothing more than others speaking their mind.

        1. Deplatforming is nothing more than individuals exercising their property rights and their association rights.

          If you want to claim that everyone should have an inherent right to a bank account and access to an ISP, then go ahead and try to make that case. Of course, this being a libertarian forum at all, expect to be called out if you don’t also take into consideration the private property rights of the banks and ISPs you’d be trammeling on.

          1. Niggers shouldn’t be able to have bank accounts. Property rights.

            1. And then we solved that with the civil rights act. And no one was worse off for it.

              If you want to extend civil rights act protections to anyone on anyone else’s property, then we will have abolished private property and property rights.

              Why are you a Marxist?

              1. Apparently the “special” in “special pleading” has the same meaning as the “special” in “special olympics”.

                1. That was damn funny.

              2. Solved? What happened to property rights? Oh, they died in that box, just like you will. Now crawl the fuck back and shut your mouth.

              3. Property owners are worse off. They have less freedoms retard.

                1. Ah ha! So you do understand freedom of association.

                  clap clap clap.

                  glad we agree that twitter’s property is their own.

          2. So a bank can hang out a sign saying “No niggers allowed” and that would be fine, right? Banks aren’t federally regulated and mandated to make loans to minorities or anything. But that’s different, of course. You like watching black guys fuck your mom, so it would be totally wrong to discriminate against them!

          3. Oh and of course Comcast doesn’t have a municipal monopoly or anything

            jUSt stArT yoUr OwN isP

            1. They don’t have a monopoly where I live. There are 3 cable companies with lines here.

              If you live in rural nowhere, and your entire connection to society is only because of government subsidies, then yes, comcast may have a monopoly on cable internet in your area. You can still get satellite internet and dsl, though.

              1. One company will, of course, have a monopoly on the fiber optic line that serves your city, but you’re really, really, really stupid and don’t understand that they lease their capacity to their parties, so it’s understandable how you’d be confused.

            2. So because the world is so unfair to you, instead of trying to rectify the injustices of the world, you are going to drag everyone down into the same muck of injustice that you perceive to be wallowing in? Is that your plan?

              1. You already got owned on the sock, cytotoxic. Why are you trying for a second round?

                You better goddamn believe that if there’s a government-enforced monopoly I’m going to insist it has to treat the people compelled to use its services equally.

              2. “[T]rying to rectify the injustices of the world.”

                Is that what you think your role on this Earth is, gimp?

                1. That is what I think should be the role of any moral philosophy worth considering.

                  1. Hitler thought the same thing, gimp.

                    1. Hitler also loved his mom. Therefore, loving one’s mom is evil!

          4. “Deplatforming is nothing more than individuals exercising their property rights and their association rights.”

            Deplatforming is corporatist collusion with political entities in order to allow them to evade and workaround the first amendment. It’s literally the dictionary definition of fascism.

            You’re not fooling anyone.

          5. “If you want to claim that everyone should have an inherent right to a bank account and access to an ISP, then go ahead and try to make that case.”

            Seems more like you need to provide a reason why they would not.

            What “speech” do banks have? What “speech” do ISPs have? Given that the taxpayers support both, calling them “private” is laughable at best. If a bank wants to limit who can use their bank, they should also forfeit access to FDIC, the Fed Reserve, etc.

            1. What “speech” do banks have? What “speech” do ISPs have?

              Umm, banks and ISPs and every business are owned by people, and those people don’t lose their rights just because they decide to run a business.

              You’re starting to sound like the “corporations aren’t people” contingent of the left. How long until you’re in favor of “campaign finance reform” and overturning Citizens United?

              Given that the taxpayers support both, calling them “private” is laughable at best.

              Spoken like a true fascist.

              1. “Umm, banks and ISPs and every business are owned by people, and those people don’t lose their rights just because they decide to run a business.”

                Given how much taxpayers have to support them and bail them out…that is a load of shit.

                “Spoken like a true fascist.”

                They’re free to not take any federal assistance and be, you know, private.

    3. The American people, I am convinced, really detest free speech. At the slightest alarm they are ready and eager to put it down.
      H. L. Mencken

      Prescient.

  4. “…broadly accepted social media censorship and noxious cancel culture…” is the results of THEM owning THEIR web sites, and NOT you, Girly-Man Girlshit! And no, I do NOT want to buy your girlshit cookies! Maybe after you sell all of your girlshit cookies, you could use the money raised, and buy your OWN web site!

    Hey whining crybaby… I pay (PAY! With MY money! I OWN!) for my own web site at Go-Daddy. I say some VERY sarcastic and un-politically-correct, intolerant things about cults like Scientology there (and Government Almighty as well). I am QUITE sure that a LOT of “tolerant” liberal-type folks at Google etc. would NOT be happy with the types of things I wrote! Yet, if you do a search-string “Scienfoology”, Google will take you STRAIGHT to MY web site, top hit! #1!

    https://www.google.com/search?q=scienfoology&nfpr=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjPzZqf0dXsAhUCT6wKHez9DNwQvgUoAXoECDEQKg&biw=1920&bih=941

    Your whining and crying is (just about ) UTTERLY without basis!

    So WHEN did Google or Facebook “throw you in prison”, whining crybaby?

    1. So WHEN did Google or Facebook “throw you in prison”, whining crybaby?

      I don’t know, when did Der TrumpenFuhrer throw you into an internment camp, shit eater?

      1. Girly-Man Girlshit said he is afraid the speech controllers (Google or Facebook yada-yada) might “throw you in prison”, like the whining crybaby that he is. Did you READ Girly-Man Girlshit’s comments, moron?

        Now when did I ever say that Der TrumpenFuhrer threw me into an internment camp, lying con artist? Are you trying to be a lying con artist like your Dear Leader, Der TrumpenFuhrer?

        1. You’ve said multiple times that Trump is operating internment camps in the United States, sarcasmic. Perhaps the toxoplasmosis from all the shit you freely admit to eating is impairing your already diminished cognition. Or it could be the 2 liters of Jack Daniels you consume before 9 AM every day.

          1. I don’t see a cite, liar!

          2. Wow. I can’t believe you bother to read Sqrlsy’s worthless spamming. You must be a masochist, Johnnie.

    2. It was “crony socialist” Democrats all along; That truth comes out more so everyday.

      The panel’s Democratic chair, Rep. Frank Pallone (D-N.J.), had called Wednesday for the tech companies to “remove” Trump.

      Former First Lady Michelle Obama urged social media companies on Thursday to permanently ban President Trump from using their platforms.

      Obama: ‘Google, Facebook Would Not Exist’ Without Government Funding

      That alone should launch a raunchy investigation of conflict of interest, bribery and a few expulsions along the way….

  5. Hey JD, ‘the press’ =/= ‘free speech’.

    We do not need a censorship of the press. We have a censorship by the press… It is not we who silence the press. It is the press who silences us. – Gilbert “Not An American” K. Chesterton, 1908

  6. Impossible. The government always delivers the honest truth, without any fabricated conspiracy theories. The government is us, can’t we trust ourselves?

    1. You take for granite that Democratic National Socialists haven’t been stuffing big city ballot boxes for years.

  7. If popular support for free speech continues to erode, it’s difficult to see how legal protections survive for long without foundations in the wider society.

    “We don’t have a problem with ‘free speech’. It’s *hate speech* we ha, uh, do not support. And that is simply common sense.”

    1. For sure nobody wants to hear the opinions of icky people.

      1. Right. ‘common sense’ speech control.
        Just expand the need for a license to exercise rights protected by the second amendment to rights protected by the first amendment.
        Simple and straightforward. And it would allow the state to ‘temporarily’ suspend church licenses in a medical emergency, and save a bunch of whiny lawsuits.

    2. simply common sense

      Ah, but
      whose simply?
      whose common?
      whose sense?

      We’ll know it when we see it easily becomes we’ll know it when we don’t agree with it or see it as we want to see it. Simple.

    3. The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one’s time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all.
      H. L. Mencken

      Always on point.

      1. Truly. Good reminder.

  8. Look, as much as you think Section 230 sucks, putting Hawley and Warren in charge of what content is allowed on the internet is a profoundly stupid idea.

    1. Hint: Section 230 is a law passed by Congress. Hawley and Warren are in charge of it de facto.

      1. That’s not how that works.

        1. It’s totally different when congress does the bidding of the corporate interests I support!

          Use your main handle, cytotoxic.

          1. That’s just not how legislation, congress, and law work.

            1. I’ll remember that when you’re squealing like a stuck pig because Josh Hawley and Big Chief Warren revoked the special dispensation for your silicon valley masters you bootlicking pissant.

              1. Fuck are you talking about?

                You guys have not made an argument. Seriously. All these comments of nothing but name calling. It’s pathetic. Grow up to libertarian level discourse or go back to breitbart.

                As far as bootlicking goes, tell us more about your god emperor who totally deserves a second term despite losing an election. And tell us more about the government forcing positive rights is freedom.

            2. That may not be how their supposed to work, but it’s exactly how they do work.

      2. Hint: Section 230 restricts what Congress can do without a full vote. It means Hawley and Warren are NOT in charge.

        1. Hint, removing 230 wouldn’t put them in charge, it would allow lawsuits from consumers.

          Dumbass.

          1. ^lawsuits for libel and harassment

    2. Nice false dichotomy. Stupid as fuck though.

  9. I’d suggest you start learning how to speak Polish or Hungarian.

    1. I already speak Hungarian. Considering a move. And maybe a kid, depending on how many forints they’re paying for having one.

    2. At this point Switzerland looks great.

      1. Cold there I hear.
        No seashore without a passport.
        I’ll stay here.

  10. Really no puns about the wapo employee that wants totalitarianism being named Max Boot?

    Fist?
    Mad casual
    Jerry’s kids?
    Anybody?

    1. At some point it just becomes too easy.

    2. It’s probably been punned too many times already. It’s worn out its welcome.

    3. Max wears Chinese Doc Martens. With mulit-colored laces.

  11. “Government will happily suppress misinformation in favor of misinformation of its own.”

    Except that Reason has happily suppressed misinformation in favor of misinformation of its own during the past four years.

    1. How is your statement any kind of “except” to TFA statement?

  12. Squirrel, try this on for size! A little song to brighten your day:

    Lying, cheating, hurting, that’s all you seem to do. Messing around with every tweet in town
    putting 230 down and thinking you got something new. Always the same, playing your game, drive me insane, trouble is gonna come to you. One of these days and it won’t be long you’ll look for Section 230 but, baby, it’ll be gone. This is all I gotta say to you, Republicans and Democrats!

    1. Now do it in iambic pentameter.

    2. Imagine being so profoundly mentally ill that you find yourself writing jingles to try to impress an utterly deranged psychopath who freely admits to eating shit and admiring Adolf Hitler.

      1. I’m starting to suspect that they’re all just one big sock. Because if I were a leftist I’d find Sqrlsy, Hihn, White Knight and Hank Phillips profoundly embarrassing and just ignore them.

        1. Stupid marches in lockstep. Even if they were all different people (which I do not believe) their synchronicity in ignorance would not be at all unusual. NPC culture is real.

        2. “I’m starting to suspect that they’re all just one big sock.”

          You have ZERO reasons to believe that I post under multiple names here, other than, you are fearful that (OMG!) there might be MORE THAN ONE person out there, who is capable of writing eloquently enough to persuade other intelligent and flexible-minded (open-minded) people that individual freedom is a REALLY good idea! So you engage in wish fulfillment fantasy, telling yourself that they are all one and the same, so that you and your fellow authoritarians can out-number them more easily. Good luck with that, mind-reader who failed!
          You believe crap that is totally false, w/o evidence to back yourself up! Just like Rob Misek and the other fantasy-addicted authoritarians around here!

          1. Nobody reads your copypasta, retard.

            1. You mean, no one can REFUTE my writings, usually, Girly-Man Girlshit!

              1. Because they don’t read them, retard.

              2. Refute what? Stuff you read on bathroom walls? You never ever post anything remotely original or coherent.

              3. So broken.

                1. Your brain being broken is NOT something that I can help you with, sorry! Buy a new one! Get a warranty next time, if you didn’t get one this time!

                  1. Does the act of munching on shit require a fully working brain?

                    1. Question for you: Are all right-wing nut-jobs liars, or only the stupidest ones?

                  2. This is your brain.
                    This is your brain on poop.

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9Pw0xX4DXI

  13. The Biden administration and Big Pharma are now planning to vaccinate all Americans for covid, including the 100 – 150 million Americans who are already immune (due to a past covid infection). And the left wing anti Trump news media are now promoting this unscientific, unprecedented and potentially disastrous plan.

    While the CDC says 25 million Americans have tested positive for covid so far, studies have found 3 – 10 times more Americans were infected with covid than have tested positive. With increased testing, that ratio now appears 3 – 7 times (depending upon location), indicating that 100 – 150 million Americans have already been infected with covid (and are thus immune).

    Herd immunity occurs after two thirds of people (in families, workplaces, communities, counties and/or states) have been infected or vaccinated, and the risk of infection declines by half when/after half of people have been infected or vaccinated.

    Despite NO news stories, the herd immunity process has been occurring in thousands of communities, hundreds of counties, and more than a dozen states, led by the Dakotas. By the time 10% of Americans receive covid vaccines, herd immunity will have already protected most Americans from covid.

    But Big Pharma, Democrats and lamestream media propagandists continue to deceive Americans to believe that herd immunity can/will only be attained via mass vaccinations.

  14. The Biden administration is now planning to vaccinate all Americans, including the 100 – 150 million Americans who are already immune (due to a previous covid infection), and the pro Biden news media has been promoting this potentially disastrous plan since the election.

    While 25 million Americans have tested positive for covid so far, studies have found 3 – 10 times more Americans were infected with covid than have tested positive. With increased testing, that ratio now appears 3 – 7 times (depending upon location).

    Herd immunity occurs after two thirds of people (in families, workplaces, communities, counties and/or states) have been infected or vaccinated, and the risk of infection declines by half when/after half of people have been infected or vaccinated.

    Despite NO news stories, the herd immunity process has been occurring in thousands of communities, hundreds of counties, and more than a dozen states, led by the Dakotas. By the time 10% of Americans receive covid vaccines, herd immunity will have already protected most Americans from covid.

    But Big Pharma, Democrats and lamestream media propagandists continue to deceive Americans to believe that herd immunity can/will only be attained via mass vaccinations.

    1. Eat the bugs take the vaccine, proles.

    2. 138 counties in the US (31 more than last week) have surpassed a 13% covid rate (i.e. who tested positive).
      Crowley, CO – 30.1%
      Chattahoochee, GA – 23.9%
      Dewey, SD – 23.4%
      Lincoln, AR – 22.6%
      Norton, KS – 21.8%
      Bent, CO – 21.8%
      Lake, TN – 21.4%
      Bon Homme, SD – 21.2%
      Trousdale, TN – 21.0%
      Buffalo, SD – 20.4%
      Buena Vista, IA – 20.0%
      Ellsworth, KS – 18.6%
      Alfalfa, OK – 18.6%
      Eddy, ND – 18.6%
      Jackson, AR – 18.1%
      Dakota, NE – 18.1%
      Childress, TX – 17.8%
      Lee, AR – 17.7%
      Bethel, AK – 17.6%
      Lafayette, FL – 17.4%
      Lassen, CA – 17.2%
      Hale, TX – 17.1%
      Nobles, MN – 17.1%
      Forest, PA – 17.1%
      Foster, ND – 16.9%
      Seward, KS – 16.9%
      Big Horn, MT – 16.9%
      Menominee, WI – 16.9%
      Pawnee, KS – 16.7%
      Logan, CO – 16.6%
      Sheridan, KS – 16.5%
      Wayne, TN – 16.3%
      Yuma, AZ – 16.3%
      Walsh, ND – 16.2%
      Ford, KS – 16.0%
      Finney, KS – 16.0%
      Texas, OK – 16.0%
      Lee, KY – 16.0%
      Aurora, SD – 15.9%
      Lincoln, CO – 15.8%
      Santa Cruz, AZ – 15.8%
      McKinley, NM – 15.7%
      Potter, SD – 15.5%
      Morton, ND – 15.5%
      Stutsman, ND – 15.4%
      Lyman, SD – 15.4%
      Nelson, ND – 15.2%
      East Carroll, LA – 15.2%
      Lubbock, TX – 15.1%
      Maverick, TX – 15.0%
      Burleigh, ND – 14.9%
      Chicot, AR – 14.8%
      Benson, ND – 14.7%
      Dickey, ND – 14.7%
      Sioux, ND – 14.7%
      Madison, ID – 14.7%
      Cass, IL – 14.7%
      Davison, SD – 14.6%
      Culberson, TX – 14.5%
      Woodward, OK – 14.4%
      Rolette, ND – 14.4%
      Faulk, SD – 14.2%
      Oglala Lakota, SD – 14.2%
      Imperial, CA – 14.2%
      Haywood, TN – 14.2%
      Toole, MT – 14.2%
      East Feliciana, LA – 14.2%
      Whitfield, GA – 14.1%
      Plymouth, IA – 14.1%
      Crocket, TX – 14.1%
      Douglas, SD – 14.0%
      Colfax, NE – 14.0%
      Lawrence, IL – 14.0%
      Nemaha, KS – 13.9%
      Minnehaha, SD – 13.9%
      Yell, AR – 13.9%
      Lamb, TX – 13.9%
      Scurry, TX – 13.9%
      Webb, TX – 13.9%
      Val Verde, TX – 13.8%
      Griggs, ND – 13.8%
      Beadle, SD – 13.8%
      Gove, KS – 13.8%
      Kearny, KS – 13.8%
      Wilbarger, TX – 13.8%
      Clinton, IL – 13.8%
      Republic, KS – 13.7%
      Crawford, IA – 13.7%
      Stark, ND – 13.6%
      Fayette, IL – 13.6%
      Golden Valley, ND – 13.6%
      Sevier, AR – 13.6%
      Pickett, TN – 13.6%
      Okfuskee, OK – 13.6%
      Grand Forks, ND – 13.6%
      Ramsey, ND – 13.6%
      Potter, TX – 13.6%
      Towner, ND – 13.5%
      Obion, TN – 13.5%
      Richmond, VA – 13.5%
      Henry, IA – 13.5%
      Madison, LA – 13.5%
      Rush, KS – 13.4%
      Jones, TX – 13.4%
      Kings, CA – 13.4%
      Dodge, WI – 13.4%
      Morgan, KY – 13.3%
      Sanborn, SD – 13.3%
      Utah, UT – 13.3%
      Coddington, SD – 13.3%
      Jones, IA – 13.3%
      Sioux, IA – 13.2%
      Wright, IA – 13.2%
      Hemphill, TX – 13.2%
      El Paso, TX – 13.2%
      Roosevelt, MT – 13.2%
      Perry, IL – 13.2%
      Deaf Smith, TX – 13.1%
      Tom Green, TX – 13.1%
      Dyer, TN – 13.1%
      Miami Dade, FL – 13.1%
      Webster, IA – 13.1%
      Dubois, IN – 13.1%
      Ward, ND – 13.1%
      Kusilvak, AK – 13.1%
      Jerauld, SD – 13.0%
      Pershing, NV – 13.0%
      Teton, WY – 13.0%
      Charles Mix, SD – 13.0%
      Brule, SD – 13.0%
      Thomas, KS – 13.0%
      Putnam, TN – 13.0%
      Moore, TN – 13.0%
      Saline, NE – 13.0%
      Dawson, TX – 13.0%
      Kandiyohi, MN – 13.0%

      Data as of 1/28/2021)

      1. 20 states with the highest covid case rate (i.e. positive tests) are
        https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/09/01/816707182/map-tracking-the-spread-of-the-coronavirus-in-the-u-s#curves

        ND – 12.8%
        SD – 12.2%
        RI – 10.7%
        UT – 10.7%
        TN – 10.5%
        AZ – 10.2%
        WI – 10.1%
        IA – 10.1%
        NE – 9.8%
        OK – 9.6%
        AR – 9.6%
        KS – 9.4%
        IN – 9.2%
        AL – 9.2%
        MS – 9.1%
        ID – 9.1%
        NV – 9.0%
        WY – 8.9%
        IL – 8.8%
        MT – 8.7%

        So far, 8.0% of Americans have tested positive for covid.

        1. Correction on post above, as Nevada’s covid rate is now 8.9%.

          1. To see how herd immunity occurs, simple go to
            https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-cases-50-states
            and look at the huge decline in new covid cases in many states during the 6 – 10 weeks.

            States with the most significant declines in new covid cases
            (and appear to be achieving herd immunity) are:
            ND (-94%)
            SD (-89%)
            MN (-87%)
            WY (-85%)
            IA (-81%)
            AK (-80%)
            WI (-78%)
            NE (-77%)
            TN (-77%)
            MT (-76%)

            So why no news stories?

            1. Don’t know if you read the NYT, but the website front page featured a bright red alarmist ‘New Cases’ graphic that usually showed GOP states in the forefront. Now that its preferred candidate is in office they’ve changed to a cool blue ‘number of vaccinations’ graphic- to show how well Biden is performing.
              Bias isn’t necessarily in how they report a story, it’s in what they choose to report as well.

              1. Trump literally invited the virus to the White House. The virus has never had a better friend in politics than Donald Trump. NYT was reporting the collateral damage.

                Now a guy’s in charge who actually wants to deal with the problem. I’d be biased too if I were them. I’d want to do everything in my considerable power to make sure guys like that stay in charge.

                1. The virus has never had a better friend in politics than Donald Trump. NYT was reporting the collateral damage.

                  Maybe…..I dunno…..Cuomo. His incompetence killed tens of thousands, maybe more. And the NYT still cheerleads for him.

                  1. Oh, do you read the NYT a lot?

                    Nobody expected perfection in a response to a new pandemic. Just not the president actually taking the side of the virus.

                    Some jackhole told him that the best solution, the one that would keep economic numbers up for reelection, was to get as many people infected as possible, and as a bonus, it meant Trump could be a lazy pig. Win-win-win.

                    Find me another politician whose actual plan is to inflict maximum death on the American people, and I’ll say whaa wahhhattoubt them!!??! Until then Trump is a unique evil.

                    And there are hundreds of millions of other people to choose from. You valued incompetence in government leadership. That was you. So what are you even talking about?

                    1. You’re an idiot

    3. Herd immunity means you can live a normal life with almost no risk of being infected. Are people not getting infected anymore? Or do you not understand what herd immunity is?

      The CDC recommends vaccination for the infected, at least 90 days after diagnosis, because it is not known how good or long lasting any immunity is from infection alone.

      You can find this stuff out with a single google search and just reading what comes up.

  15. Speaking of free speech, Twitter user edits Maxine Waters’ comments demanding Trump officials be harassed, replaces ‘Trump’ with “Cuomo”, Democrats proceed to have conniption fit about “violence”.

    The Democrats really are the most mendacious lying fucks in America right now.

    1. pRivATe prOPeRTY riGhTS!!!!!!!!!!

      jUSt stArT yoUr OwN twItTeR!!!!!!

    2. This was such a self own today. So many democrat senators fell for it too.

    3. That type of disinformation will get you a tenner, buddy.

    4. We need legislation that redefines the status of social media. The private property narrative parrots are shills.

    5. I did the exact same thing with HRC’s “End of civility” comment from 2018. Too bad I don’t have a Twitter account or I could’ve been Twitter-famous.

  16. I’m hearing something about a CNN-Anon conspiracy theory. My friend’s TDS-suffering father is convinced that Trump is going to take over something on Monday, and that he heard it on CNN. Anyone else know what the fuck the TDS crowd is barking about?

    1. Their own inadequacy.

    2. He’s probably going to invade Mar-a-lago against his neighbors’ wishes. Strutting about as if he owns the place.

  17. “Boot also believes that “Biden needs to reinvigorate the FCC” to impose British-style controls over the news—never mind that the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) doesn’t have the authority to regulate cable outlets that it has over broadcasters that use public airwaves.”

    This from the man who accuses others of spreading “misinformation.” Thank God we have people like Boot to keep democracy from dying in the darkness.

  18. The sad thing about suppressing speech is that the regulators are free to view it and then make the decision that ‘it’s too dangerous for the public to see.’
    It’s ultimate in elitism hypocrisy.

    1. Yup. The status of social media as merely private needs to be revisited. They behave like a private-infrastructure chimera creature, but enjoy being treated as perfectly private on one hand, but non-publishers on the other. I don’t say dropping 230 is the right thing to do. But it is clear that we need some sort of solution, because, again, twitter is not your local bakery and powerful.

      As Ted Cruz asked Dorsey: if you don’t think you have any influence, why would you delete anything?

  19. I think twatter and fakebook are different from a local bakery where you can be kicked out for any reason. Your local bakery doesn’t control an extreme range of public discourse and does not have the power and intention (!) to influence the outcomes of an election.

    Fakebook and twatter are whiny snowflakes because people are starting to wake up to the fact that what they do is not normal for a “private” company, and therefore people are looking for a solution now.

    Social media is not as private as you think, considering their reach, effect and intention. It is not strictly profit anymore, they are of course very deep into the ideological education business.

    So don’t cry because people are starting to get it. The political power that youpuke etc. possess needs to be addressed. And solutions will be found.

    1. Virtually every single Google executive has worked on one Democratic party campaign or another, as have a majority of Facebook and Twitter executives. Pelosi own millions in Facebook stock, Schumer is heavily invested in Google. These companies are so heavily involved in politics that for all intents and purposes they are the government, in exactly the same way Huawei is one of the corporate arms of the CCP.

      White Knight/DOL, sarcasmic, Jeff and Tony are totally cognizant of this, but choose to ignore it because they’re not quite ready to admit what’s going on yet. Very soon the narrative will begin to directly attack the first amendment, and then watch how ferociously they’ll pile on.

      1. Virtually every single Google executive has worked on one Democratic party campaign or another

        Page and Brin strike me as legitimately naïve. To me the dangerous one seems to be Schmidt.

      2. These companies are so heavily involved in politics that for all intents and purposes they are the government, in exactly the same way Huawei is one of the corporate arms of the CCP.

        Like I keep pointing out repeatedly, Facebook and Google got as big as they did PRECISELY due to government investment and sponsorship, either directly via In-Q-Tel, or through their proxies.

      3. Maybe these extremely rich people would find the Republican party and its low-taxes appealing if they weren’t psychotic nutjobs intent on destroying the United States and replacing it with a pile of their own shit.

        1. I swear, a proggy random-phrase-generator accounts for 75% of Tony’s output. That was barely even relevant.

      4. Former First Lady Michelle Obama urged social media companies on Thursday to permanently ban President Trump from using their platforms.

        The panel’s Democratic chair, Rep. Frank Pallone (D-N.J.), had called Wednesday for the tech companies to “remove” Trump.

        Obama: ‘Google, Facebook Would Not Exist’ Without Government Funding

        1. We take away the platforms of people for less. Drug dealers have to live in a cage for years. You think treasoners should get a free megaphone?

          1. Someone lets you comment here. Mr. Destroy the USA for Democratic National Socialism treasonous cheerleader.

          2. Tony, a halfway healthy, non-totalitarian society can deal with extreme views. Being able to tolerate them without censorship is essential. It is, unfortunately, the price of otherwise free speech for everyone that is not an extremist, generally speaking. Grow up, mature and understand this.

            Trump hasn’t committed treason and will therefore not be convicted for it (though it could be potentially better for the GOP to get rid of him).

            Of course Trump tried to have the vice President override the constitution and did other things for which I think he needs to keep himself out of politics. But treason is over the top. Just like blaming the capitol events on all republicans or even just on all trump supporters. This being in the MSM is one of the gazillion reasons I have lost most of my respect for the left. You seem to be someone who likes to cross lines and go too far as well.

            1. this coming from a non-tds individual, who still says that trump would have been the lesser evil.

      5. Hey ML, thanks for that. Just letting you know it is being read. Helps me by giving me more points to make.

    2. doesn’t matter, those are the new rules

      Christian bakers are targeted over and over with lawsuits over messages they find offensive, despite the presence of many other bakers

      Big Tech is immune from such lawsuits, despite actively working to suppress any competitors

  20. “We need to shut down the influencers who radicalize people and set them on the path toward violence and sedition,” argued columnist Max Boot in The Washington Post.

    Absolutely.
    Max Boot first.
    Then all of WaPo & NYT
    Adam Schiff
    Maxine Waters
    Kween Kamala
    AOC
    everyone who voted for any democrat ever
    Probably a few more, but that will be a good start

    1. See? Reason comments have become a vomitorium into which National Socialists can cheaply and anonymously vent their spleen.

      1. So just how much weed do you smoke on a good day, Hank?

  21. No Democrats or left wing media propagandists criticized Maxine Waters when she people to accost Trump cabinet members.

    But now Democrats are criticizing a joke that exposed Water’s hypocrisy.
    https://dailycaller.com/2021/01/29/edited-maxine-waters-quote-trump-staffers-applied-cuomo-staffers-new-york-democrats-outraged/

  22. “A culture of free speech can’t prevail if the culture comes to prefer censorship.”

    Worthy of being engraved in stone some place. Preferably a very visible one.

    1. The First Amendment’s tombstone?

  23. Misinformation is free speech. There fixed it.

    1. I love that you guys are reduced to arguing that all your endless lies are technically free speech.

      Keep asking for permission to destroy the US with stupidity. See if some smart people don’t clue in.

      1. Kinda early to be drunk already. Poor Tony.

        1. I can hardly think of a time zone on earth where that would be the case right now. China Standard time?

      2. “You guys are reduced to arguing that all your endless lies are technically free speech”

        The definition of “Lying” isn’t actually merely disagreeing with the gibberings of your insane tribe, Tony.
        But even if it was, lying is just as much covered by free speech as not lying. There’s no “technically” about, you malicious retard.

  24. Well we can’t fix the real problem which is that idiots just easily digest whatever bullshit is fed to them.

    1. Well there is that. Social Media is the medium for spread. It’s like stepping in dogcrap and then wiping it on other’s shoes to track all over their houses too.

    2. “People are saying things that I disagree with, and I find that a real problem. That’s why censorship and chilling effects are important in our fight against free speech the real problem.” – t.raspberries

    3. ^EXACTLY; People need to first understand the U.S. Constitution and why it defines this country as “the land of the free” and why Individual Freedom is wildly important and successful and why Democratic National Socialism (i.e. Nazism) is not a good idea and has a proven history of ending in bloodshed, poverty and collapse.

      Instead; they just tout along ignorantly to ever-growing amounts of B.S. being fed to them in some effort to make themselves feel legitimate pretending to be a Nazi Dictator.

  25. Government and private business will work together to suppress free speech.

    Libertarians better get on board with the Supreme Court ruling that settled that people carry all their rights with them everywhere they go especially on private property.

    If not, you’re part of the problem.

    1. Government Politicians (Democratic ones) exercising authority OUTSIDE the realms of law is what the problem is. It’s “crony socialism” gone wild.

      1. If we don’t stand up for our rights and the rights of others even when it doesn’t specifically affect us today, those rights will be violated.

        That’s the problem.

        1. Fair enough; but there is no inherent “right” to use Facebook or Twitter. The real issue is Democratic Politicians and “crony socialism” practices. Really all boiling down to our country turning into a Democratic National Socialist nightmare entire against the U.S. Constitution.

    2. Um… no. There are certain spaces on private property where a guest gives up his rights, and some where he does not. I may have the right to a gun, but an owner can restrict entry on that basis.

      When it changes is when the space (virtual or real) becomes a public forum, i.e. it provides wide latitude to guests to use its space for public purposes. Then the space owner cannot restrict one’s rights.

      1. Owners are restricting entry, like blacks in restaurants, but we’ve already determined that it’s illegal.

        For some reason, people who invite the public onto their private property keep breaking the law.

        After years of rights abuse it may see the Supreme Court.

        Regarding free speech on private property, it has been settled.

        http://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/326/501

        “ The more an owner, for his advantage, opens up his property for use by the public in general, the more do his rights become circumscribed by the statutory and constitutional rights of those who use it.”

        In other words, we carry our rights onto private property and everywhere we go.

        If you run a business which is open for the general public, you are obliged to respect ALL their human rights.

        1. “ The more an owner, for his advantage, opens up his property for use by the public in general, the more do his rights become circumscribed by the statutory and constitutional rights of those who use it.”

          This is exactly my point. The owner who “opens up his property for use by the public in general” is subject to 1A.

          But the owner who does NOT open up his property does NOT become subject to 1A.

          1. Every violation of 1a is by owners who have openly let the public in. People can’t abdicate inalienable rights.

            Then owners don’t have the right to limit speech.

        2. How does this argument change or hold up with the “right to life”?

          Does opening your private property to the public give you the right to deprive that public of their life?

          If we are operating under the belief that a person’s right to belief, right to their property ( and self-ownership), right to their conscience and association, and right to defend one-self’s life are all part and parcel to one’s right to life (which I think could well be argued that the original bill of rights were closely tied to one’s right to exist), then is the substitution valid?

          If freedom of association hadn’t been so utterly destroyed, I wonder if this conversation would be a thing. But at this time, the only class w/o CRA protection in this country happens to be the same people who voted overwhelmingly for Trump. I don’t think that’s a coincidence.

          1. “Does opening your private property to the public give you the right to deprive that public of their life?”

            It would; If it wasn’t a crime. One of the biggest problems I see today is this arrogant self-proclaimed “rights” as entitlement-to…..

            The U.S. Constitution doesn’t give people “entitlement-to”; it restricts government from violating natural inalienable rights (THUS FREEDOM). “Congress shall not pass any law……”

            Nowhere does the Constitution read “The people have a right to…”

  26. pre-2020 Democrats: corporations are not people and have no rights and should probably be outlawed

    Democrats 2020-onward: SkyNet is a private company that donates large sums to the DNC, so the government is powerless to protect you from their Terminator robots

  27. Nobody asked Republicans to turn into terrorist. Right now, my free speech is not under threat. My life and livelihood are because a major political party tried to overthrow my government.

    We can shut down terrorist propaganda networks. We should have done it a long time ago and half a million Americans might be alive today. Sorry “expendable olds.”

    Freedom comes with responsibility, choads. Stop believing every lie some fat bastard shoves into your ears.

    1. In your world I would never get a chance to hear what you consider lies. Doesn’t sound like freedom at all.

      1. Right now my free speech isn’t under threat by anyone. The internet exists. You can speak. You can speak too much.

        The threat to me right now is climate change. Your lies, in fact, are what is going to end the human species. Shit, I would give up some free speech for that cause if I had too.

        1. Ah. Tony the mindless econazi unable to differentiate a constant or read a graph of unvarnished thermometer readings. It’s like the communists and fascists are competing to see which can me more asinine and superstitious. This is fine… provided they do it elsewhere. Libertarians are not running a public zoo for looter factions.

          1. You are a cheap date with charts and graphs, huh? Lesser men would think it took a bit of mental exercise to defy the near-desperate pleading of the entire scientific community who disagrees with you. Nah, you saw a graph that confirmed your bias once. Where’s my “that was easy” button? We must get it to all the governments with dispatch.

          2. What a load of ad hominem.

        2. Climate change isn’t a significant threat to anyone as an individual. That’s why it’s such a pernicious problem. The air and water of this planet are shared by all humans, and it is vital as a species that we protect them, while at an individual level, we can pollute all we like with little to no personal ill effects.

          Free speech isn’t a pollution or protecting-the-commons type of problem. It’s a collective intelligence and networking problem. Individuals are to society as neurons are to the brain. The more human ideas and conversation are connected, the more our collective intelligence can rise, good ideas can rise to the top, and people can discover what they want to know.

          How can we solve global warming without free speech?

          1. Oh, and to complete the analogy, censorship is a lobotomy.

          2. The process is not neural, it is Darwinian, and the problem is when the bad ideas refuse to die. That can happen when the bad ideas are concentrated in a political party with every single institutional advantage available in the US constitution, which is handy since it was designed by and for white supremacists. Speaking of bad ideas that need to die.

            We censor ISIS. Should we not? Do they still deserve a seat at the table of ideas?

            1. Let the book burning begin.

              1. I’m not that worked up about your position. Somebody has to be the free speech maximalists, and why not you?

                But since we’re not even talking about government doing anything, we’re all on the same page. Private companies don’t have to offer their property to white supremacists looking for recruits.

            2. It’s not everyone else’s fault that the guilt and grievance pimps have convinced gullible idiots like you that global warming! and white supremacists! are a far bigger threat than they really are.

              Stop trying to make that our problem.

              1. I am rapt with anticipation to know what you think actually is a threat.

            3. If the Constitution was designed for white supremacists, why would you have a problem with white supremacy?

              1. I have a problem with both white supremacy and the constitution.

                The men who wrote it owned black people as slaves. I’m not stating an opinion here.

            4. Progressives punish thinking and honesty, and get hordes of zombies like Tony to command as their reward. Last person with an intact brain, please turn out the lights.

        3. We can shut down terrorist propaganda networks. We should have done it a long time ago….
          Tony
          But as long as he can say anything, Tony is good with censorship. He feels entitled to special treatment.

          1. I wish someone would shut me up, to be honest. I might get some housework done.

        4. The threat to me right now is climate change.

          Hahahahaha!! Show us where the climate hurt you.

          The threat to you is your idiocy. Even the believers in this new age religion don’t say the climate will be a threat in any reasonable timeframe. It’s always 10s of years in the future, sometimes hundreds. And it’s all 100% out of our control. It’s called nature.

          1. You’re factually wrong, and you have the internet so there’s no excuse for that. You wouldn’t have an excuse if all you had was a library. It’s not like you can’t read the news.

            1. You are so very stupid.

              1. Because I don’t see the truth of the Jew space lasers?

        5. If climate change is so bad, why not just “throw so much debris and smoke into the air ” to block sunlight from entering the atmosphere, as Al Gore suggested?

          1. I’m open to radical ideas. We’re probably going to need them.

            The longer you idiots make us wait, the worse they’re going to have to be.

            An adult would consider the opinions of the entire scientific community and every government and corporation on earth before casually dismissing a claim. He’d leave some room for the possibility that he was wrong. That’s what an adult would do.

    2. Tony, the christianofascists infiltrating the GOP got the platform committee to keep their girl-bullying, hippie-shooting and asset forfeiture planks. In June it became evident that women voters were feeling threatened by superstitious hillbillies. By mid-October the threat of losing Comstockist and ku-klux spoiler votes got Trump to make a mystical harridan to replace Ginsburg. This guaranteed thee fascisti would lose, hence the fake votes and election fraud lies pointing away from the fact that girl-bulliers are vote-repellent. Your looters were left standing after Trumpistas show themselves in the head. Lighten up.

      1. Cripes, that’s good meth.

      2. Hey, moron, (Hank) good thing you singled out Tony with that unintelligible nonsense. No one else but Tony is stupid enough to figure out what you are trying to say. Although ChemJeff and a few others could almost do it.

    3. Nobody asked you to make up stories, lie, manipulate, deceive and be a spinless P.O.S. all the while trying to overthrow the USA for your Democratic National Socialist utopia.

      It’s time to shut down you treasonous propaganda networks.

      Freedom comes with responsibility of respecting Individual Rights. Stop believing every lie some lefty bastard shoves into your ears. Lies do not change the USA.

    4. When did Tepublicans try to burn down Minneapolis or Kenosha?

    5. I’m sure this is what FDR and others said about the Japanese the US interned leading up to and thru WWII.

  28. The argument to me, which seems to be making complete sense Prima Facie against Twitter, Facebook and the like is that there is no reason to be able to have it both ways. They argued against net neutrality, now they have their bandwidth. If they want to be in the business of entertainment (See Netflix) they are welcome to, and we’d all be better off without their awful platforms creating this polarized version of politics, but at this point they have given up the right to, AS A PRIVATE CORPORATION, decide what the public airways will be able to say. A rag like the NYT can because they don’t take public funds or require our help to give them more bandwidth at the expense of the small journalist. There is no question at all that Google (see Tulsi’s debate) or Twitter with regards to DT, they are limiting our freedom of speech, and no number of bots or trolls saying that because they ‘are private corporations, go get your own worldwide massive disseminator of propaganda.’

    Apple blew that legal argument when they shut down Parler. So enough already, let’s be real, they are the new media and they are scary AF and we need them majorly reigned in. Hopefully with laws regarding net neutrality, freedom of content and anti-trust regulation. And I’m a Reason supporter, I am virtually never on the side of regulation, but this has gone WAY too far.

    1. It was Democrat Politicians ALL ALONG making threatening phone calls.

      “The panel’s Democratic chair, Rep. Frank Pallone (D-N.J.), had called Wednesday for the tech companies to “remove” Trump.”

      1. Then it is no longer just private action.

  29. Good reporting from Tuccille as usual, but the Gee-Oh-Pee and Democratic peeps are looter thug gangs committed to the initiation of force as Panacea One. They got what they voted for in 2016 (minus 4M) and again in 2020 (with Dems erasing many prohibition planks and snagging the NARAL endorsement). FOX is a platform for christianofascist coercion of fertile females, nothing more. It now tries (like other National Socialist outfits) to rip off the Libertarian brand as both misdirection and sabotage. Fox will not be missed.

    1. I don’t think they’re gonna be able to breed their way out of this one.

      1. Neither are you, considering where you stick it.

        1. I’m comfortable being a minority. Never once felt the need to commit any treason over the issue.

  30. Misinformatively, this article argues for “drop” and “muzzle” – nary a mention of disclaimer or dispute a’ la challenged Wikipedia entries. Want to post “Election was stolen? Fine, expect “Fifty state commissions, 12 courts, and two SCOTUS decisions found no evidence of election fraud” to be attached.

    1. Somebody has to be the guy arguing for why the best free speech program is one where lies can spread maliciously and unchecked throughout a democratic society. Who else but the libertarians?

      1. Nobody should get to decide anything for themselves. Tony will tell you what is right.
        Freedom!

      2. Free speech is free speech. The responsibility is for an informed populace to sep the wheat from the chaff. Although with the modern public education system this is a challenge I will agree with that.

        1. But it’s not and nobody believes that. You don’t have free speech in a courtroom or a boardroom or a classroom or a crowded theater or anywhere if you want to slander people or incite violence.

          I don’t know if it is a libertarian or liberal principle, yet, that far-right propaganda and conspiracy theories that threaten the very lives of congressmen ought to be recognized, targeted, and suppressed, but it should be a part of any correct theory. And congressmen are under no obligation to worry about that considering it’s their lives that are on the line.

          1. Wrong . Again.

      3. I don’t know why Tony’s so upset about lying, when that usually accounts for roughly 95% of his posts.
        In fact he only usually ever tells the truth by accident, when he’s fucked up and misunderstood something.

  31. Max Boot? Another former Russian neocon who again shows the neocons were just troytskyites This guy was a big war monger (of course he wasn’t going to fight and die for global paradise run by Goldman Sachs but rural American boys would and should be happy to. What a parasite..seriously why would any media outlet give this guy press? Oh Wapo the paper where Jennifer Rubin who has no discernable talent of any kinds gets a gig as a “conservative.”

  32. Max Boot? The author of the Washington Post article’s name is “Max Boot”. The irony is literally off the charts.

    1. He’s a Neocon’s Neocon if that helps clarify things.

  33. Max Boot is the perfect name for a Nazi thug, a Gestapo agent looking for dissidents.

  34. If one guy used his twitter to call you a pedophile day after day, you’d be OK with twitter banning him. How much harm does lying about the election do? And they’re also calling everyone a pedophile!

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    2. “If one guy used his twitter to call you a pedophile day after day, you’d be OK with twitter banning him…”

      Lefty shits never have actual examples; they constantly propose hypotheticals and argue about those.
      Shitstain here is the poster-shit for Ken’s theory that shitstain, jeff, ODL and several others are simply not bright enough to separate their fantasies from objective reality.

    3. What happened to Kevin Clinesmith, by the way?

      1. Tried in a court of law. What happened to Trump after committing treason for at least the second time?

        1. “What happened to Trump after committing treason for at least the second time?”

          Given he did nothing of the sort, nothing much happened.
          Ds screamed, shouted, held a kangaroo court where they said they ‘impeached’ him and promised to ‘do something’ if they were capable of getting a pile of TDS-addled assholes like shitstain to back them.
          They didn’t; TDS-addled assholes like shitstain are not as common as their fantasies suggest.

          1. But you wouldn’t know, would you? You don’t consume any information that isn’t Trump cock worship.

            In fact, if you just ventured a little outside of your comfort zone and tried normal cock worship, you’d probably hear some porn slut small talk about some actual information about what’s going on in the real world between penetration shots.

            1. Your erotic fantasies are probably of interest to your daddy, or your cousin, or your nephew or which ever other family member you’re currently screwing.
              Not to me.

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  37. I agree with Max Boot. As far as I am concerned, Fox News and Donald Trump have been shouting “fire” in a crowded theatre. Trump came really close to destroying this country on January 6th. Shutting him up is essential to our survival.
    Freedom of speech is not unlimited, as much as some irresponsible people would like it to be.

    1. Trump came really close to destroying this country on January 6th

      Hahaha! The riot and assault on the Capitol was planned long, long before Trump spoke. They have video of the guy planting the pipe bombs the night before.

      Do keep up.

    2. “…Trump came really close to destroying this country on January 6th…”

      TDS-addled lefty shits keep repeating this as if repetition turns a lie into truth.
      Fuck off and die, lefty shit.

    3. “…Trump came really close to destroying this country on January 6th…”

      Consider the idiocy of this claim.
      This TDS addled lefty shit fantasizes that a couple of hundred protesters armed with broom-sticks could ‘destroy the country’.
      Imagine how fragile a country would have to be to believe such a steaming pile of shit. Imagine how long a country of that fragility could survive the slightest bit of corruption, such as that ginned-up ‘investigation’ into Trumps every action for the past twenty years.
      Hint: Even Castro’s pathetic excuse for a ‘country’ is far more stable.

    4. Do you make the same claim regarding Antifa and Black Lives Matter?

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  40. Violating our 1a rights with censorship and persecution has spread across social media like wildfire. Hell, they even censored the president of the United States.

    When I heard about Epoch, ostensibly a free speech platform, I gave it a few weeks.

    I noticed fluctuations in comments that indicated algorithms to surreptitiously and selectively display comments to users to control the narrative.

    Eventually I found out their real criteria for outright censorship. I provided irrefutable evidence that the holocaust is a false narrative and was banned. It was verboten.

    That should indicate the real source of this global media censorship and coercion violating our rights. It took pointing the finger at what Jews are doing and have done, with the facts of science and logic to cross the line the oligarchs can’t allow.

    Epoch is just another tool of censorship.

    1. “…I provided irrefutable evidence that the holocaust is a false narrative and was banned. It was verboten…”

      Nazi lied and someone opted not to print lies! Dog bites man!

      1. Irrefutable evidence that bigots who can’t construct an argument but wish they could, like you, censor. If you could.

        Are you the “partial cremation” shlomo whose gramps wrote a book illustrated with pictures of shirtless Jews dragging bodies from the gas chambers to the ovens?

        You dummies don’t know that cyanide is absorbed through the skin and lying shlomo senior would have been dead in hours not collecting financial reparations into his old age.

        When a necessary aspect of a narrative is proven to be complete bullshit, the entire narrative is therefore false.

        Like that dummy.

        1. You really are a sick puppy.

          I met several survivors of the death camps many years ago. They didn’t like talking about it, but there was no question that the tattooed numbers on their arms were real.

          BTW. One can not prove a negative. So even if you believe the Holocaust never happened, you could never prove it. Whereas, the tens of thousands of accounts of those who survived the camps, plus the thousands of photos and videos, and the testimony of American soldiers proves the Holocaust beyond any doubt.

          you are a sick puppy

          1. You met survivors of a death camp? How stupid does that sound?

            They had tattoos, must’ve been a death camp.

            I’ve easily demonstrated that a necessary aspect of the narrative as confirmed and testified by the “eyewitnesses” is utter bullshit.

            That’s proof enough unless you’re admitting that the eyewitnesses are lying.

            Of course there is zero physical of a holocaust, only paid and coerced inadmissible testimony.

            What’s it gonna be dummy?

            1. Nazi lies, gets called on lies. Dog bites man.

        2. “Irrefutable evidence that bigots who can’t construct an argument but wish they could, like you, censor. If you could.”

          Nazi lies, people call him on lies. Dog bites man.

          1. Ironic. Take your own advice

            “Sevo
            January.30.2021 at 10:54 am
            “…Trump came really close to destroying this country on January 6th…”

            TDS-addled lefty shits keep repeating this as if repetition turns a lie into truth.
            Fuck off and die, lefty shit.“

            1. Nazi lies, gets called on lies. Dog bites man.

    2. This little discourse demonstrates how censorship promotes ignorance.

      I provided irrefutable evidence, there was an unsuccessful attempt to refute it and a baseless claim of lying. I have plenty of additional evidence.

      The criteria of rational behaviour demands deference to the evidence of logic and science.

      The ignorance of irrational behaviour is satisfied with censorship and repeated baseless claims.

      Bigotry can’t afford to consider counter arguments.

      1. Nazi lies, gets called on lies, whines that no one buys his bullshit. Dog bites man.
        Fuck off, you pathetic excuse for humanity.

    3. Right on queue.

      What side are you going to choose?

      1. Nazi lies, gets called on lies, whines that no one buys his bullshit. Dog bites man.
        Fuck off, you pathetic excuse for humanity.

    4. Oh lord, I should give more money to this place.

      What should happen to the Jews for lying about the Holocaust?

      It’s a Holocaust, isn’t it?

      1. Misek, rejected as a as a neo Nazi bullshitter by Epoch Times (The Epoch Times is a far-right international multi-language newspaper and media company [Wiki, for what that’s worth]), while even shitstain, who is not able to separate his fantasies from reality, sees that you’re full of shit.
        Does your gold fish swim away from you?

        1. “Does your gold fish swim away from you?”

          I don’t know what the fuck goldfish have to do with any of this.

  41. “Americans Abandoning Free Speech ”

    Sooo… Democrats. You’re talking about Democrats. There’s no reason to be magnanimous when reality is clear.

    1. Meh…. if the Republicans thought they could get away with it in their favor, they’d go for it in a heartbeat! It’s like the noise about the president having too much / little power – it just depends on how the current one in power aligns with the speaker’s point of view.

      1. So then why is their free speech and support for free speech in Republican-controlled states?

  42. Hey TooSilly, do ‘libertarians’ abandoning liberty…

  43. Free speech is a legacy of the 18th century, the age of Reason, when print was the foremost method of communication. It’s only natural and to be expected that Americans of the 21st century have abandoned the concept. Our foremost method of communication today is the internet which privileges the emotional, visceral over the calm and cool rational and reasonable debate that characterized the founders.

    The medium is the message, wrote McLuhan back in the 1950s and 60s. It’s time we take his message to heart.
    http://library.lol/main/6656B2C105E58270FB6E5F0D67C9B58D
    The Gutenberg Galaxy might be the best place to start.

    1. “…which privileges the emotional, visceral over the calm and cool rational and reasonable debate that characterized the founders.”
      trueman gets his historical ‘knowledge’ from Parade magazine; anyone who has read anything of the charges/counter-charges of the late 18th century prior to and after the reveloution knows full well that trueman is full of shit; ‘fake news’ was the output of most of the printers.

      “The medium is the message, wrote McLuhan back in the 1950s and 60s. It’s time we take his message to heart.”
      And trueman then cites ’60’s McLuhan, who is famous for arguing like a Dear Abby column.
      Why not quote some Foucault?
      Fuck off, troll.

      1. “Fuck off, troll.”

        Emotional and visceral. Thanks for illustrating my point.

        1. Ignoring the point entirely, proving to be a troll.
          Fuck off, troll.

          1. I’m not sure I made myself clear. Measured, reasoned, sometimes impassioned debate is a relic of another era. These days, the internet privileges fake news and kitten videos. That’s what gets the clicks.

            You should read some of McLuhan. He’s a fun and playful polemicist, a fan of Joyce’s Finnegan’s Wake. His main concern was how our discourse is shaped by the technical means by which it’s propagated. Hence, the medium is the message. If I wanted to go French post structuralist on your ass, I would have gone with Deleuze or Baudrillard rather than Foucault, who was no slouch either, but not really germane.

            1. It figures these are your intellectual leading lights. Along with your stupidity, it explains a lot about your inability to form a worthwhile argument.

              1. My arguments are sound. Whether or not you find them worthwhile is irrelevant.

    2. Are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness also unimportant legacy as reason is discarded in favour of emotion and irrational coercion?

      You never had the intelligence to know why we have inalienable rights in the first place. Something the founders knew, having experienced results of their absence.

      You stand here dismissing the right as you use it.

      When we communicate, the purpose of speech, we see other perspectives that may improve our perception of reality.

      Every living thing on earth evolves by recognizing reality and modifying their behaviour to work with it.

      Censoring our ability to improve our perceptions of reality, limits human evolution. It is a crime against humanity.

      That’s logically why 1a is an inalienable right.

      1. “Are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness also unimportant legacy as reason is discarded in favour of emotion and irrational coercion?”

        No, the dream of life, liberty and happiness predates the Enlightenment by a long shot. The Land of Cockaigne is a famous painting of Bruegal dating back to the 16th century, but idea goes back to medieval times.

        “You never had the intelligence to know why we have inalienable rights in the first place. ”

        Inalienable rights is another concept from the Enlightenment we are abandoning, like free speech.

        “When we communicate, the purpose of speech, we see other perspectives that may improve our perception of reality.”

        Do you think that when Sevo reads my comments he sees other perspectives that improves his perception of reality? I’d say no. He has a gut reaction and vomits out abuse.

        1. Enlightenment is simply the recognition of reality which is obstructed by censorship.

          I don’t know what motivates the bigoted troll going by the cowardly alias “sevo”, but by my observation, it isn’t reality.

          If you value sharing the evidence of reality, you’d better start standing up for logic and science while you still can enjoy the inalienable right of free speech.

  44. The only Americans that have abandoned free speech is the radical left wing Democrats now in power.
    Reason Magazine: Libertarians for a Left wing Socialist Dictatorship.

    1. We are being censored by media oligarchs while our rights are ignored.

      They’ve been increasing the censorship for many years under left and right leadership commensurately with the technology that allows us to communicate and expose corruption.

  45. Brace for the consequences? The sitting president of the United States was already censored, preventing him from addressing the people.

    Counter arguments are verboten now. It is the age of bigotry and ignorance.

    Brace for a death by 1000 cuts.

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  47. None of these fans of speech restrictions explicitly advocate suppression of activists or ideologies YET

    But, like “reasonable gun control”, then end result is of course complete control.

  48. Censorship is used where the corrupt have a motive.

    Consider that the German enigma code was broken in 1941 and recently released allied decryption provides physical evidence that Germans were desperately trying to save lives in prison camps from the typhus epidemic.

    Advocates for the holocaust narrative say the decrypts demonstrate deception by the Germans. Logically they must argue that the Germans who at the same time employed no deception for their military actions must have put a much higher priority on killing Jews than winning the war.

    Assuming you are willing to perform those mental gymnastics, how does that explain how a single Jew survived captivity? Why did Jews get tattoos instead of the bullets allies were?

    This logic is at the top of everything being censored today even by people who ostensibly value free speech.

    Consider the Israelis who today bragged that every Jew in Israel has received at least one dose of the covid vaccine 9 million, even the least vulnerable and essential, by the end of January. This before they “released” the first 5000 to any Palestinians, even the most vulnerable.

    This sums up the apartheid state called Israel, created from lies and theft by the people with the most urgent reasons to censor.

    1. Nazis tell lies.

      1. So do left wing Bolshevik types, like the Current Democratic party.

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  50. No, those who want to limit free speech know the consequences, which is why they seek to limit free speech.

    Hysteria aide, these people scare me to death! The impetus of this administration is to brand their political opposition as ‘criminal’, and it only take one arsonist to start national-socialism up. This has been a theme before the election, with the K-girl even pledging to }prosecute” Trump, if she were wo win.

    Libertarians are now included with ‘far-right wing and White Supremacist organization as criminal. I see conditions deteriorating rapidly and the Prosecutor ‘n Chief will start talking what prosecutors like to talk about; martial law. That woman is no good.

    Paranoid, yes.

  51. In January, 2019, AOC said, “the world is going to end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change.”.
    Should we deplatform her? Or just politely as her to look up thewords, “Pleistocene” and “Holocene”?

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    Take a piece of paper and write down what you want to achieve in the next 5 to 10 years. You might be planning to become a headteacher or a manager. If that’s so, how do you hope to get there? What are you expected to achieve in this career plan and how will you be able to get there? Even if that isn’t part of your long-term plan, you need to have an idea of what to do in the future and write it down in your career plan.

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    You need to do some research about the role you want to do and do your research on it. Visit a job website and look for a vacant position for the type of job you are interested in. Don’t look at the location of the job or the specific industry. Rather, you need to look at how you match the job descriptions and requirements for that job. What type of experience do you have and what is actually missing? You need to plan on what to do to fill these gaps.

    3. Read More About Your Career

    Once you have identified the areas you need to improve your experience, you need to read more about it. Look for guide books in your career field and look for the best way to forget ahead to achieve your career goals within the shortest time possible.

    Also, you should consider reading some leadership books or career coach books to find the best way to advance in your career effortlessly. When reading these useful books, you need to make necessary notes on how to apply the information in the book for the best results.

    4. Ask For Career Guidance

    If possible, you need to get some mentorship on your career path. Look for an expert in your field and get the career advice you need to forge ahead in your field without any worries. Look for legitimate career coaches in your field who can help you gain the understanding and knowledge you need to improve on your career effortlessly. Take advantage of Twitter and LinkedIn to connect with other people in your field and get the best idea on how to advance in your career.

    5. Think Of Projects

    Look for a project that can help you advance in your career. It could be anything that helps you advance your current experience without any hassles. Even better, it can take any time from a month to a year but make sure you find ways to boost your career plans with the project. You can always ask for advice from people who have followed the same path previously to learn what you need to do to get ahead.

    Final Thoughts

    Most people choose careers they are passionate about. Therefore, if you want to advance in your career, you need to make sure that it is something you love and will actually advance without holding yourself back. Dunbar Education can help you to find your perfect career. Use these tips for the best results.

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