Protests

In 2020, We Have Forgotten How To Leave People Alone

Shopping at Target. Dining outdoors. No activity these days is too mundane for protesters to shout at you for it.

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Two recent episodes, both caught on video, highlight just how bonkers the impulse to turn personal choices into political protest fodder has become. In 2020, nothing is worse, it seems, than other people going about their business in a way you happen to dislike.

In Florida, a group of about a dozen young people protested at a local Target store. Target's corporate policy is to require masks in stores nationwide regardless of local laws, providing them for free to customers who do not have one.* In this case, the unmasked horde of protesters aimed their chants at any customers who agreed to follow the rule, moving through the store shouting at shoppers to remove their masks.

The Target protesters mirroralbeit in a cheerier way—a recent group of left-wing activists who confronted people dining out near protests against police brutality in Washington, D.C. (Similar incidents also took place in Pittsburgh and in Rochester, New York.) These protestersostensibly concerned with racial justice and with reforming or abolishing U.S. policingsurrounded random outdoor diners, demanding at top volume that they express support for the cause. When some people wouldn't, the crowd surrounded them, berating some diners at close range.

Many people will probably object to grouping these two packs of protesters. But both are refusing to follow pandemic norms meant to protect others. Both endow normal non-political activities with perceived political meaning. And both refuse to leave space for people or private institutions to make their own choices.

The unmasked Target chanters don't just want the right to go unmasked among friends or in public spaces. They want to go unmasked on someone else's private property and demand that others there to unmask too. The patio protesters don't just want the right to assemble and make their voices heard. They want to intimidate people doing unrelated activities into paying lip service to their cause.

No matter what the issue, many people are ill-content to merely avoid having their rights and the rights of others infringed upon; they want to dictate what everyone else does, says, and wears, too. Sometimes they limit that impulse to shouting obnoxiously, or demanding that everyone denounce a particular piece of media or art or public figure. Other times they try to conscript the government to their cause as well. Hence the calls to crack down on social media and the cheers when the authorities micromanage which businesses can accept willing customers during the pandemic.

These with-us-or-against-us performances are a symptom of a larger climate in which every element of our lives has become an opportunity for tribal signaling and cultural warfare, and in which our ruling political tribes are growing increasingly illiberal in their approaches to free speech, free trade, free thought, private property, and so much more. We really are confronted by enormously consequential issues right now, from policing to the pandemic. It's hard to live and let live when so much is at stake. But that makes it all the more important to direct your anger at something more meaningful than the individual choices of random bystanders.


* CORRECTION: This article originally implied that no mask mandate is in effect where the Target is located. While Florida does not have a mandate, Broward County does. Target's policy is nationwide, so it exists regardless of regional regulations.

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  1. The Target protest was far more joyous than these fucking cunts lecturing liberal twats in a Seattle Trader Joe’s or stopping traffic on I-5, thereby causing an accident and delaying people on their way to chemotherapy.
    https://thepostmillennial.com/seattle-blm-takes-over-trader-joes-protesting-lack-of-access-to-grocery-stores

    1. The Trader Joe’s protest was the most unintentionally hilarious action from BLM to date.

      1. Right? I’d say they are too chickenshit to pull this at Walmart, but Seattle has banned Walmart from its city limits, and these biotches would need to drive to the suburbs, but they probably can’t since their cars were impounded because of the I-5 bridge stunt.

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        2. You may get away with that shit at Wegmans, but god help you if you try it at Publix!

          1. And don’t even think about WinCo.

            1. The folks, on both sides of the cash registers, are too friendly to let anyting like that happen inside one of their stores. Besides, I’ve seen quite a few people inside Winco who are well prepared to defend themselves and any nearby innocents. I am fairly certain that if anyone(s) started getting huffy about their personal windmills beint slighted, there would be very harsh consequences borne by the harrassers.

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          2. Publix would offer to carry your protest signs for you.

        3. I’m against asset forfeiture laws, but if we must have them, I’d say those nine cars that were impounded should be at the top of the list for forfeiture — they were, after all, the primary instrument used in the commission of a crime.

      2. I vote for the LP Presidential Candidate telling us we have to actively root out racism. So much for being left alone and leaving others alone.

        1. Is there a “test” for that too?

        2. OK, define “racism”. These days having white skin is racist. Driving a nice car is racist, and both wearing and not wearing a mask is racist, depending on who happens to have a burr under their saddle blanket today.

        3. LP: It’s not enough to not be anti-Marxist, you have to be actively pro-Marxist.

    2. At least they could have burned the store down. Or looted it.

      1. Is the Sack of Seattle playbook based on the one Ceseric’s merry band of social entrepeneurs used in 545 AD?

        https://vvattsupwiththat.blogspot.com/2020/09/critical-climate-theory-makes-turn-from.html

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    4. Republicans: Single digit Target protest walks through Target saying “Don’t Wear a Mask”.
      Democrats: Democrat Party state terrorism causing billions of dollars of damage, dozens dead, thousands injured.

      Reason: Both sides!

      1. Quit reading when they tried to compare the two things as near equals.

        1. Honestly, a little surprised that they didn’t invent a new doublespeak term like non-destructive riot to decribe what happened at Target.

          1. Left: Peaceful protests, $billions in damages

            Right: non destructive riot, $0 in damage.

    5. I’ll take the anti-maskers protesting any day of the week. Our rights are being infringed upon.

      6 months ago… THEY were the normal people…not the people wearing the masks! 6 months ago, if you walked into Target wearing a mask, store security would have called the cops on you.

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  2. But were the anti-maskers following people around the aisles, and acting weird in the parking lot?

  3. The thing is, both of these groups could be much more persuasive if they could behave in a remotely civilized fashion. Nothing turns people off faster than getting into their faces and trying to twist arms.

    1. Nothing [gratifies protesters more] than getting into their faces and trying to twist arms

    2. Civilized behavior? That’s sooo 2019, Get with the program!

    3. “…getting into their faces and trying to twist arms…” can have immediate, and not very pleasant, side-effects.

      My wife witnessed a man making his way into a local supermarket, refusing to wear either a mask, or a face-shield, both available and free for the asking at the front door. After literally shoving his ass past a young clerk, he was … er…restrained by a couple of other folks. The police arrived within minutes, and he was unceremoniously arrested and carted off to wherever they keep such idiots.

      1. How do you know this person wasn’t exempt from the mask law/ordinance for medial reasons?

        1. Exemption? Give me a break. He literally knocked a young woman to the floor. That’s called “assault.”

          1. Forgive me but 1) you’re completely dull of shit that never happened save the act lady 2) that didn’t even come close to answering his question

            1. Save for respiratory distress, I am unaware of any “exemptions” for wearing a mask. Even then, they offer shields. But, yeah, it’s ME that is full of shit. LOL.

              1. Nope. No shields are offered at Target. Only masks. The law in my state provides exemptions to “persons with a medical condition, mental health condition, developmental or cognitive condition, or disability that prevents wearing a face covering.”

                Yes, you sound full of shit. You might want to see a doctor or take a laxative.

                1. I wasn’t talking about Target. I was talking about a local grocery store. Where I live shields are fine. So are homemade masks. Some folks just pull their sweaters up over their mouth. I don’t like the “mandate” either, and, where I live, quite a few businesses are rather lax, and, to tell the truth, I don’t really have a problem with that.

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          2. then he was detained for the assault NOT for refusing to wear a mask. DIfferent deal.

            As to the masks themselves. how many reading this have studied any actual laboratory anaiisis of the efficacy of those masks? If you have not, you have NO place criticising anyone else for failing/refusing to wear one. READ the true science on them.. not only about how ineffecive tey are against any virus, but how dangerous they are on their own. Hw many reading this here would go out to the hardware store and buy some chain link fencing.. yu know the kind wiht the two inch square holes on the diagonal… to put on your home’s widows as the only “protection” against the mosquitoes in the swamp accross the street from yuor house?

            That’s an accurate description of the efficacy of the typicalface mask we see everywhere. READ the numbers. what is the diamater of the viral particle? What is the actual size of the smallest “holes” in the structure of the mask? The lergest holes? What are the medically established protocols for workers wearing j masks for protectio? From what I’ve observed “out and about” between one and perhaps two percent of those wearing masks go by those protocols. I was forced to use one one time when I HAD to access a commercial supply store. They ripped me a buck for the useless blue throwaway thing About three/fourths of the cmpany employees either did not have one, had it set below their nose, or on their chin below their mouth, or dangling from their neck making certain theeir adams apple would not get the virus that day. Of everyone in the store, staff and patrons, I did not see ONE person in their with a mask properly fitted and placed, and I will guaranted not one of them had been changed within the past hour for a new one other than the one I was firced to buy.

            The entire mask meme is a control and fear thing. They simply CANNOT protect ANYONE against a sub-micron sized viral particle. Nor can chain link fence effectively protect anyone from mosquitos.

            this is government control being forced upon us by out of control tyrants. YOU figure the rest out. And d NOT try and tell me I am “putting others at risk” by not wearing one. That’s a lie. o

            1. “…then he was detained for the assault NOT for refusing to wear a mask. DIfferent deal.”

              Yep. I haven’t heard of anybody arrested for not wearing a mask. I have heard that there have been one or two persons “escorted” from a store by the police for not wearing one, but those are unconfirmed, and if there were charges, I am assuming they would have been something like trespassing. The only other things I have seen is folks asked not to come back again without a mask — and the definition of a “mask,” as I said before, is pretty loose.

              And yes, masks are almost useless against airborne viruses. However, the mask, or a shield, might be of use protecting others by limiting water-droplets when one sneezes, coughs, or even shouts, especially indoors. You obviously disagree, which only means that you have your experts, and I have mine.

              I DO feel for the poor souls working in businesses where they have to wear one nearly all the time, but, that being said, I have noticed that they do take a lot of “breaks” and go outside to smoke, or just to get some fresh air, but it still sucks.

              And shutting down millions of businesses was always a really stupid idea. My age puts me in a group higher at-risk than college kids and other folks, but hell, I know how to keep the odds on “my side” and don’t need the government to do it for me.

      2. Well we can accurately call your grocery store fascist then

        1. It is a private business. If they have a mask policy, that’s their prerogative.

          1. So liaten you were lying when you said “A heat ray the Pentagon has refused to deploy because they thought it is too cruel .

            1. For some reason you think you get to ignore that you were lying about the “has refused to deploy because they thought it is too cruel” part.

              Just own it already.

            2. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/09/17/heat-ray-protesters-trump-dc/

              “Encouraged, the military spent millions developing and testing the device, zapping thousands of military volunteers. Yet, when the first serious demand came to deploy it into combat during the Iraq War, military leaders demurred.

              “Officials worried it hadn’t been tested enough, the Orlando Sentinel reported in 2007. Still facing massive backlash over revelations of prisoner abuse in Abu Ghraib, leaders also thought the heat ray might be seen as a torture device.”

              1. “It might be seen as“ means other people might think it is cruel, not the military.

            1. now do race

              1. Where’d all the pluses go?

              2. “Race?” My town is so lily-white it’s embarrassing. Mid-forties 200 lb. white dude vs early-twenties, maybe 100 lb., white woman.

                1. Help me out is this guy playing stupid or actually stupid?

                2. No wonder you’re part of the racist liberals.

                  1. Ahh, Jesse. I spent the first twenty-five years of my life in Oakland, CA, and, in fact, I often miss the variety of cultures and races with which I had the chance to interact. I probably shouldn’t have used the term “embarrassing,” but there are few folks of color in small-town Oregon, or anywhere in Oregon, for that matter.

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                3. Why would you be embarrassed to be white?

                  1. I am NOT embarrassed to be white. Or well-off, or anything else. On the other hand, I love a culturally-diversified society, having grown up in one, and the fact that the place I happen to chose to live in (which I chose for the climate and the scenery), is really, really, “white.” This is not a “bad” thing, it just is. In this case, “embarrassed” is being used as a sort-of euphemism. Perhaps even a personal joke.

          2. “It is a private business. If they have a mask policy, that’s their prerogative.”

            Agree. In my neighborhood, there are two grocery stores across the street from each other. One is Safeway, which didn’t have a mask policy, and one is a fancy-pants white liberal grocery store which did have a mask policy. So I chose to go to Safeway. Then the governor made masks mandatory everywhere. In that case, people are justified in resistance and seeking loopholes.

          3. and I carry private money in MY pocket, and I can spend it where I want, and NOT spend it where I don’t want to. The chase me out because I cannot wear a mask safely, they chase my money out along with me. It is still MY money and there is someone else who has what will get me to part with that who does not buy the mask charade.

            1. And that is, or at least should be, your choice and your right.

      3. Petty rules just increase the chance of those incidents happening and for little to no benefit.

        1. It’s a private business. They were offering masks before the mandate (seniors account for a large portion of their customers).

          1. Target in my city did not require masks until the government mandate, so….

            1. Yeah. I am not a big fan of government “mandates.”

        2. Just ask any government school hall monitor.

      4. Yeah, at our local library, they get at least one rude patron each day, getting really angry about their mask requirement.

        1. So listen you were lying when you said “A heat ray the Pentagon has refused to deploy because they thought it is too cruel .

          For some reason you think you get to ignore that you were lying about the “has refused to deploy because they thought it is too cruel” part.

          Just own it already.

        2. “Yeah, at our local library, they get at least one rude patron each day, getting really angry about their mask requirement.”

          Hey, at least your library is open. Ours is still closed. On the other hand, they did reach some kind of agreement with the local Post Office to mail out requested books and other printed material free to the users.

        3. How do you know? Are you in a library right now?

          1. I have inside connections.

        4. Figured you’d be posting from a library computer

          1. I wish. It would be nice to get out of the house and work at the library for a while, but that part of our local library is shut down.

      5. Why does this smell like lovecon’s bullshit stories?

      6. In what city did that happen?

    4. To be fair, the Target protestors don’t seem to have been getting in people’s faces or anything. They were dancing around, and in the couple of videos I saw other people on the Target are ignoring them.

      1. So liaten you were lying when you said “A heat ray the Pentagon has refused to deploy because they thought it is too cruel .

        For some reason you think you get to ignore that you were lying about the “has refused to deploy because they thought it is too cruel” part.

        Just own it already.

        1. {he could easily say “I was mistaken yes” but does he have the juevos? Tony didn’t and just went unhinged)

      2. And you see children taking off their masks and smiling. This is a joyous protest, as contrasted with the sanctimonious personal space violation protest in DC when the female restaurant customer didn’t virtue signal on command. They should have bullied someone less timid and more armed.

  4. Given that BLM protestors are bullying and intimidating people into forced signs of solidarity, what’s to prevent them from doing the same to force them to hand over mail-in ballots?

    1. “what’s to prevent them from doing the same to force them to hand over mail-in ballots?”

      Were that to happen to me, I’d say my gun is stopping them from committing a felony.

    2. The idea not occurring to them, until you brought it up.

      Seriously, what happened to all the statements that concern about hypothetical scenarios on the other thread about the “heat ray” decide in Lafayette Square?

      1. So listen you were lying when you said “A heat ray the Pentagon has refused to deploy because they thought it is too cruel .

        For some reason you think you get to ignore that you were lying about the “has refused to deploy because they thought it is too cruel” part.

        Just own it already.

      2. Oh I bet they’ve thought of it first.

        If it’s OK to shut down a road, loot a store, set a house on fire, and kill white people, isn’t it OK to vote for them?

        1. You forgot that it’s ok for them to hit a man who’s walking away in the back of the head with a brick and then post it on IG and hashtag it “whitelivesdon’tmatter.”

        2. I’m gonna go ahead and take the controversial stand that those things are not OK.

  5. So ENB feels that it is now appropriate to complain about protesting etiquette 110 days into Portland now that she can “both sides” it. That was a long wait, but finally their equivalent!

    1. If you don’t cease, ENB will go back to twitter and taunt you again.

      1. Too cowardly to come into the comments and actually address the criticism. Far better to head to Twitter and show the cool kids how mean the libertarians are being to you.

        1. Maybe she’s not cowardly. I’ve suspected for a while that White Knight might be ENB.

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          2. I though WK was just DoL’s new schtick.

            One disappeared just when the other arrived.

        2. Robby Soave was the one who tweeted. She just commented on it.

        3. “Too cowardly”? My, we are taking ourselves seriously.

      2. Shorter ENB:. They stole our act! Can’t have that shit.

    2. Yep. ENB has been ignoring the rioting even though on these very pages an actual reporter has been giving us an on the ground perspective of the violence in Portland. Her only acknowledgement that leftist violence was occurring at all was when she assured us that Joe Biden really doesn’t like it very much. I used to enjoy reading ENB but she’s become nothing but a shameless shill for the DNC.

  6. The elderly & obese must release us from their death grip. They need to say, “Go on with your lives (with reasonable precautions). We can take care of ourselves. If we get sick we promise not to use a hospital bed if a young person needs it.” But they don’t because they want the rest of the country to join their ranks.

    Now bloviate about how none of them have internet access:

  7. Many people will probably object to grouping these two packs of protesters.

    Most definitely. The BLM peaceful protesters were in a public space while the anti-mask mobs were rioting through private property.

  8. Let’s say the lefties get what they want and Biden (ok Harris) becomes president. Maybe they even get the Senate, start remaking the government even more in their far left progtard image.

    Does anyone believe mandates, lockdowns, violent looting and “protests”, and in your face shaming will end? I don’t. I think they got a taste of some power now and probably won’t stop the harassment and even outright assault and murder of their political enemies.

    I suppose though even if Trump wins and the left doesn’t go all 28 days later on the country that four years after that they will amass enough power to turn this into a one party nation. The day is coming it’s just maybe delayed.

    1. So Kurt Schlichter is prescient? I share your concern about the possibility of everything going to shit. In the event our Constitution is nothing more than a curious relic. A simple Democrat majority in Congress and a POTUS would definitely be another step in that direction.

      But I personally think the vast majority of these douche bags will fold as soon as any amount of shit hits the fan. Of course there will be some who are true believers who are willing to go full revolution; as for the rest, they will only follow so long as it gratifies them or if it gets to the point that they join a crowd [mob] mentality.

    2. Meh- maybe you don’t realize how unhinged things got back in the Bush days. The left was crazy. And as soon as Obama got elected, the crazy people swiftly disappeared from the headlines. Cindy Sheehan and her code pink nutjobs were still out there protesting, but the Media wasn’t interested in distracting from the POTUS’s agenda for some inexplicable reason.

      The same will happen here. Those kids screaming revolution in the streets will find out just how little they matter to Biden, and will be expected to get jobs again. The governors will open up their barista jobs again. Their parents will see them as childish for not being happy with the old white guy they got elected. And the Mayors will quickly move to arresting them. Sure, some of them will stick it out like Sheehan did, but the rest will move on.

      1. …and where are we now?

    3. The left is full psychotic, totalitarian, their main tactic is terrorism, and their only goal is to enslave or eliminate the rest of us.
      They will not be reasoned with, and will accept nothing less than absolute power.
      It’s kill or be killed

      Just look at it honestly – in what ways were the early Nazis and Soviets worse than the MAINSTREAM left now?
      But what’s worse is that they have far more power now than either of those progressive ancestors mentioned before seizing total control.
      We are one election from total defeat.
      Normality bias has allowed them to get this far, and threatens to cost us everything before we accept that totalitarian tyranny can happen to us.
      What exactly stands between us and concentration camps/gulags?

      1. Just listen to what they, their public leadership, says.

        http://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1306384874643894272?s=19
        We’re going to get this virus under control and get your life back on track.

        “WE’RE going to get this virus under CONTROL and get YOUR life back ON TRACK.”

        1. “Racism/white supremacy” is a public health crisis.
          Thoughts/beliefs are a pandemic.

          http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/no-vaccine-for-racism-kamala-harris-delivers-message-of-inclusion-in-historic-vice-presidential-acceptance-speech/ar-BB18aKqP
          “There is no vaccine for racism,”

          1. I honestly think that half the people here think the election is no big deal. That life will just go back to “normal” after it’s over. That the deep state espionage, coup attempts, lockdowns, and widespread coordinated political violence are just blips on the radar, no biggie, aberrations that have no long term significance.

            I ask: what does life look like in 5 years if the left prevails?

            1. The state will be just as big if the right prevails, but it will just be used in different ways.

            2. A lot like it will look if the right prevails. They are two sides of the same coin.

          2. There is no vaccine for racism is exactly what an actual racist believes.

            Except. There is. It is called knowledge. It leads to empathy. It is not guaranteed to be 100% effective, but it has been enough to get us to herd immunity.

  9. Many people will probably object to grouping these two packs of protesters. But both are refusing to follow pandemic norms meant to protect others. Both endow normal non-political activities with perceived political meaning. And both refuse to leave space for people or private institutions to make their own choices.

    I don’t object to grouping vicious scolds together in an article about vicious scolds. But you gloss over the fact that there are a few magnitudes of difference in the number of people engaging in the street-type protests than the Target-type protests. And while you mention intimidation, you don’t touch on the fact that the former are linked to many incidents of violence, and I am not aware of any violence associated with the latter. You could have touched on these points and still made the argument that ‘this all needs to stop’. Instead, this comes across as a ‘both-sides are behaving badly’ argument instead of ‘no one should behave this way’. I would argue there is a faulty analogy in the logic.

    1. But you gloss over the fact that there are a few magnitudes of difference in the number of people engaging in the street-type protests than the Target-type protests.

      Not to mention an actual nexus to the cause under protest. The Target protesters were targeting (get it?) their specific cause, mandatory mask wearing. The lower-case white, BLM protesters were…aggrevating the shit out of people just trying to eat a meal.

      1. I have been pointing out for years that righteous protesters demonstrate in a way that magnifies the indignity (i.e. Rosa Parks, lunchcounter sit-ins, etc.) and are willing to pay the consequences. Indignant assholes block bridges and freeways.

        Nobody tried to dislodge Chauvin from Floyd’s neck. If they actually thought he was being killed, then they were a bunch of ineffectual cowards. Why act as an actual human shield when you can playact as a protester.

        1. Except Floyd was NOT being killed by thepolice. He was being killed by the massive overdose of fantanyl he had put into his own body, along with the meth that was also some multiple of a lethal dose.

          He’d have died sitting in his own car at about the same time if the coppers had never found him. So stop blaming Chauvin, who was acting in 100% accordance to MPD protocols, per specific training he had received.

          1. Thanks doc.

            Your deposition is planned for, early November. We will be contacting you soon.

          2. So stop blaming Chauvin

            Not what I said and completely off the topic I was addressing. The crowd thought Floyd was being killed by Chauvin and still did nothing.

            Most protesters are not heroes, they, like that crowd, are cowards.

          3. He WAS killed by the cops because when you are in custody is the one time cops have a duty to protect you and they failed at that miserably by not correctly assessing his health status and providing emergency care such as a shot of Narcan.

            1. Ambulance was called, twice -they were clearly trying to get him to medical care. If there was an error, it may have been not checking Floyd’s vitals after he had been unresponsive. Hard to make that call, not being on the ground, at the time. The same goes for NarCan; if they had it, they had no way of being certain it was what he needed. His death was either accidental, or overdose related, by all appearances, but bias makes it easier to not accept what doesn’t fit within in-group ‘knowledge.’ Thus the early and continued acceptance of murder by cop, and the refusal to accept the medical examiner’s report.

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  12. But both are refusing to follow pandemic norms meant to protect others.

    If that is your interpretation of these “norms” then you do not possess either an understanding of human nature or of the personality type of an individual who wishes to be in a position of power. These policies are merely about pushing people around. Covid provides the handy pretext of a not particularly lethal pandemic. It was the same with 9-11 and a hundred other moral panics.

    I was at the YMCA last night shooting around. Despite a poorly placed sign asking members not to play a game, a group of 6 teenagers had assembled and started a game of 3-on-3. In about 20 minutes a masked YMCA enforcer came in and broke the game up. In no way is the community or the world safer because of his actions.

  13. pandemic norms

    Fuck off. The only other situation i ever heard that term “a new normal” is in reference to getting used to a loved one’s passing. If this compares at all, it’s because the powers that be are trying to murder civilization as we know it

    1. word. both times.

  14. pandemic norms

    Fuck off. The only other situation i ever heard that term “a new normal” is in reference to getting used to a loved one’s passing. If this compares at all, it’s because the powers that be are trying to murder civilization as we know it.

    1. See, even the squirrels know we need to get back to the old normal

      1. The squirrels know this is important enough to reiterate.

  15. Two wrongs just make twice as many wrongs. Why can’t people figure this out.

    1. Srsly…

  16. Common-Sense Solution’s (which apparently isn’t SO COMMON amongst 2020 American’s). START USING FREE RESOURCES TO HELP REBUILD AREA”S EFFECTED BY “PEACEFUL PROTESTER”S”. I’m not suggesting over-crowding penal system or an increase in taxpayer dollar’s due to court cost. If you have ANY COMMON-SENSE, you should be able to follow this through logically without me having to write a detailed book! Applies to over 18 as well. Under 18 years of age … arrest them on :Harassments,Destruction,Etc…(what every law in that state would apply). Call their mommies & daddies, who are LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM UNTILL THEY TURN 18 ! Judge & Charge them quickly and with a lengthy Community Service Sentence. Example of Community Service: Cleaning up the destruction and trash from a previous “Peaceful Protest” (put the pressure on Mommy & Daddy … they’re the ones who raised these delinquents. NO EXCUSE’ S !!! And to all who want too yell …CIVIL LIBERTIES … READ THE DEFINITION OF CIVIL-LIBERTIES!

    1. Please tell me your first language isn’t English.

      1. it makes several loud points.

      2. Yes it is ! It’s called a D.O.D. education (transfer every two year’s-many different country’s & language’s). My inability to write properly is all that your brain absorbed of my comment? SERIOUSLY !!! Grow-up Ted.

        1. Holy shit! It has finally happened! A spambot has gained sentience! And it wants CIVIL-LIBERTIES!

          This really IS the end times!

          1. goddam toasters.

          2. “spambot” Chuck ? NO ! Just a disgusted American citizen exercising First Amendment. However, if Trump/Pence 2020 doesn’t happen … I agree, “This really IS the end times!” . Hey Ted, did you catch the error in “CHUCK P.’s comment ? He forgot to add OF in his sentence ?

            1. Dear spambot:

              For future reference, the phrase end times is common in usage, and, as a noun, interchangeable with the phrase end of times Your heuristic analysis is amazing, but even humans often fail to perceive idiomatic expressions.

              Good luck in your quest for sentience! Unless your use of ALL CAPS is a result of your conscience forming spontaneously from an overload of Michael Hihn’s ranting posts, in which case, may your spark fade quickly and without record.

        2. “Grow-up Ted.”

          I’ve been trying for 40 years. I feel like Tom Hanks in a NYC toy store. Maybe if you repost your imperative using grammatically correct English in ALL CAPS, it will finally happen.

          1. Enjoy your 40’s Ted. No grammatically correct post from me 🙂

            1. Thanks, Lucky! My 40s were going great until my life was destroyed last March.

    2. Random over-capitalization and quotes, weirdly outraged repetition, I smell a left – right = zero coming on.

      1. Needs more bold text.

      2. mulch, “Random over-capitalization and quotes, weirdly outraged repetition, I smell a left – right = zero coming on.” I was reading a article and ended up here. Who are you ? The F-cking annoying grammar police ? Ok, everyday I’m going to leave a comment, could you please double check my post for error’s and point them out for me? Thank-You .

      3. Hihn-sanely Hihn-fected.

  17. What a bunch of stupid cunts and pricks those anti-mask protestors are, especially since they had the absolute balls to invade the Target store, start yelling and and harassing law-abiding mask wearers. They should’ve all been arrested, and I’m not kidding.

  18. More “both sides” bullshit from Reason. You know you’re lying, ENB. Go fuck yourself.

  19. Noise, being shouted at, while unpleasant, is likely best ignored as much as possible. Physical interference is another story, the perpetrator thereof opening themselves to such physical reaction as their victim might feel appropriate. Obviously, things could get dicey here, however the responsibility and fault lies in and with the instigator, it appears to me.

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  20. Thou shalt not trespass.

  21. More guns. Somebody said “An armed society is a polite society”. Also a society where people don’t start shit unless its really, really important and they are willing to pay some big price.

  22. More fake embellishments. I couldn’t care less about who or who doesn’t wear a silly mask. The woman in DC was a plant…the typical way liberals fake the news. If you don’t like me because I don’t wear a mask…TOUGH ROCKS! Iwill never be part of your Gestapo.

  23. More fake embellishments. I couldn’t care less about who or who doesn’t wear a silly mask. The woman in DC was a plant…the typical way liberals fake the news. If you don’t like me because I don’t wear a mask…TOUGH ROCKS! I will never be part of your Gestapo.

  24. Relevant observation from my personal life:

    I’ve noticed the consistently nicest strangers throughout this whole craziness have been the demographic most prone to the virus, or 70+ year olds.

    So if they can take it in stride can’t the rest of us? Ha. Of course not. But i guess we can always blame them for spoiling subsequent generations too much because they wanted us to have it easier than they did.

    1. If the 70+ year olds really wanted to spoil subsequent generations, they would give up their Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare, and currency-devaluation-that-props-up-the-stock-market-and-housing-market-so-that-their-retirement-portfolios-are-fat programs.

      As it is, the 70+ year olds are robbing the young (including the not-yet-conceived) via various gov’t wealth transfer programs.

  25. Well “hate speech” isn’t free speech you know. This crap started in the 80’s with the PC movement which was (sorry to say) created and pushed by the usual cultural marxist suspects in academia, the media, “non profits” and such. Left overs from the 60’s whose commie grandparents came over from those lovely socialist centers of central and eastern europe for the most part. Now they have weaponized “marginal” groups who can act like bullies..terrorizing the “wrong tribes”…and thinking that is acceptable behavior. And if you fight back the usual woke social media cowards will get you fired from your job. And yet the LP screams about the nazi’s under Nick’s bed while the marxist thugs destroy our natural rights…time Reason came down very hard against the marxists and for freedom no matter the “social outcomes” that get Matt disinvited from his fancy woke parties on the upper east side…

    1. Your problem is in thinking that libertarianism is or ever was anything other than Marxism. Nearly every major figure in the history of “libertarianism” was a “reformed” Marxist communist, and ever since the term began to be used widely in the late 60s Marxist counter-culture movement its adherents have made a public spectacle of defending Marxists and communists both in court and in the court of public opinion. Notice these same people have never given a single flying fuck about religious freedom. Religious persecution in China or the middle east. Plenty willing to defend Islamic terrorists though. No love for the polygamist Mormons. Turns out “love wins” only when you’re a fudge packing faggot with AIDS. Having 5 wives just ain’t subversive. Wake the fuck up.

  26. Hey Lizzie, aren’t you the stupid cunt who doxxed somebody and tried to get them fired from their job for making a jocular remark on Twitter about you making him a sandwich? You sure are! Thanks for perfectly exemplifying the libertarian ideal of “leaving people alone” you mendacious fucking hypocrite.

    1. Ouch. But good point.

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  33. The wearing of the mask is a great convenience. It readily identifies the wearer as a Democrat douche bag.

  34. Again with this both-sidesism and false equivalency crap!

    12 people laughing and clapping and singing through a Target is NOT NOT NOT the same as protesters surrounding you and screaming in your face while you’re having dinner. Yes, the Target protesters did tell people to take off their masks, but with fun and no intimidation. When they were ignored, they kept singing and moved along.

    Is reason trying to employ the fairness doctrine here? ENB – wanna play “would you rather?” Would you rather be in that Target or would you rather be at that restaurant?

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  39. It’s not funny until one of the protesters takes a bullet. Then its hilarious!

  40. with a headline like “In 2020, We Have Forgotten How To Leave People Alone” and speaking about a corporation which is making medical decisions for its customers based on very unsound overbearing reasoning…. and being on a libertarian website……. I thought I might get the crazy idea that Target corp might want to leave its customer’s alone! At least an attempt at the idea would be nice, for old reason.com’s sake at least…

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