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The 2020 Republican Convention Doesn't Have a Platform—It Has Trump's Pet Peeves

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Republicans take the stage. Last week's Democratic National Convention was no joy ride, but it was also fairly business-as-usual. The Republican National Convention, which starts tonight, promises just as much frustration with an added dose of surrealism. (Two producers of The Apprentice are reportedly involved in the planning.) For libertarians, it will be another reminder that days of the conservative-libertarian alliance is all but over.

A Very Trumpian Agenda

The Republican Party has no new official platform for 2020. Instead, the Republican National Committee is pledging to "enthusiastically support the President's America-first agenda" and "will adjourn without adopting a new platform until the 2024 Republican National Convention."

The convention will focus on President Donald Trump's "second-term agenda"—a list of wishes and pie-in-the-sky promises ("Create 10 Million New Jobs in 10 Months," "Return to Normal in 2021," "Clean Up our Planet's Oceans," etc.) mixed with basic bipartisan campaign promises ("Protect Social Security and Medicare," "Lower Healthcare Insurance Premiums") and paranoid nationalism ("Drain the Globalist Swamp"). "Teach American Exceptionalism," runs one plank, under the "Education" header. "Hold China Fully Accountable for Allowing the Virus to Spread around the World," says a bullet point under the heading "End Our Reliance on China."

A lot of the agenda seems to revolve around Trump's pet peeves and particular neuroses, plus the red meat du jour of Republican's cultural vengeance menu. Overall, it's the kind of empty, performative "agenda" we're used to from this administration and from political campaigns more generally.

But the brief agenda also manages to work in several unconstitutional and/or authoritarian planks. For instance:

• It promises to not only end cashless bail but keep people suspected of crimes "locked up until trial"—something that goes explicitly against the core U.S. justice system principle of innocent until proven guilty.

• It promises to revitalize the war on terror by treating "drive-by shootings as acts of Domestic Terrorism."

• It says that for immigrants—including people who immigrated here legally but are not U.S. citizens—being part of anything that authorities deem a gang will be grounds for deportation.

The agenda also labels antifa a "violent extremist" group, which is in line with the administration's efforts to classify people who call themselves antifa as domestic extremists and terrorists. Now, there are antifa activists who have done shitty and destructive things (and a whole lot more who have just been silly and sanctimonious pricks LARPing at revolution). But antifa is a loose, decentralized network of interconnected activists, many of whom "joined" antifa just by applying the word to themselves. Treating them all as terrorists is akin to slapping the label on anyone who labels their politics "anarchist" or "libertarian."

Designating wider and wider groups of people as terrorists and gang members is a tried and true way for governments to deny basic rights and civil protections to a wider and wider range of people, while simultaneously making it harder for those people to get a fair shake in the so-called court of public opinion. The loose and subjective nature of these terms makes them easy to wield selectively against political enemies, popular scapegoats, and disfavored groups.

A few planks of Trump's new agenda sound good—such as "Stop Endless Wars and Bring Our Troops Home." But Trump promised that last time too, and he has done no such thing. And this document lends further doubt to that anti-endless-war commitment when, two points beneath the anti-war plank, it promises to "Maintain and Expand America's Unrivaled Military Strength."

Alas, the new Trump 2020 Agenda can't even stick to being bad on warmongering, criminal justice, or other places where Republican presidents have historically been weak. There are plenty of grabs for economic control, too.

Trump says he'll ban private American companies from hiring "foreign workers" instead of American citizens. He'll build a national internet network. He'll maintain certain Obamacare requirements and continue protectionist trade policies. And he'll require all critical medical supplies to be manufactured in the U.S.

Where Have All the Conservatives Gone?

As Politico points out, "the supposed canons of GOP orthodoxy—limited government, free enterprise, institutional conservation, moral rectitude, fiscal restraint, global leadership—have in recent years gone from elastic to expendable. Identifying this intellectual vacuum is easy enough. Far more difficult is answering the question of what, quite specifically, has filled it."

The Republican Party has long been devolving into a loose collection of cultural grievances, meaningless gestures, and crime panic. But Trump seems to have accelerated the decline, sending "conservatives" in a new direction in the process.

"Trump ran in 2016 and swamped a sprawling Republican field of more conventional conservatives" and "in doing so, he didn't merely win the nomination and embark on the road to the White House," suggests Gerald F. Seib in a weekend Wall Street Journal essay.

He turned Republicans away from four decades of Reagan-style, national-greatness conservatism to a new gospel of populism and nationalism.

In truth, this shift had been building for a while: Pat Buchanan, Ross Perot, Sarah Palin, Mike Huckabee, the Tea Party, an increasingly bitter immigration debate—all were early signs that a new door was opening. Mr. Trump simply charged through it. He understood better than those whom he vanquished in the primaries that the Republican Party has undergone profound socioeconomic changes; it has been washed over by currents of cultural alienation and a feeling that the old conservative economic prescriptions haven't worked for its new working-class foot soldiers.

Now, as Republicans prepare to nominate Mr. Trump for re-election at their truncated convention this week, there is simply no way to put Trumpism back into the bottle. If the president wins this fall (and even more so if he loses), the question that Republicans in general and conservatives in particular face is simple and stark: How to adapt their gospel so that it fits in the age of Trump?

As it happens, a new and younger breed of conservatives has set out to do precisely that, often by stepping away from strict free-market philosophies.

The Parties of No Ideas and No Exit

Aside from proving challenging for conservatives who don't like this new direction, the GOP's turn away from economic freedom has become a moment of soul-searching for libertarians too.

In the 21st century, both ruling parties have turned away from principles that made them sometimes-allies of libertarians.

For Democrats, it's meant an incredibly depressing turn away from the tolerant, privacy-minded, pro-free-speech, civil libertarian, and anti-war tenets that guided at least parts of the party and left-wing politics for much of the 20th century.

At the same time, free markets and a distaste for economic regulation—the cornerstone of conservative-libertarian fusion—are less popular, and sometimes an outright anathema, to modern Republicans.

What to Expect From the RNC

Trump will speak on all four nights of the Republicans' virtual convention, which starts Monday night and runs through Thursday. He'll accept the party's presidential nomination on the final night, with a speech from the White House lawn.

First Lady Melania Trump will speak Tuesday, with other Trump family members scattered throughout the four days.

Some lawmakers scheduled to speak tonight include Reps. Matt Gaetz of Florida, Jim Jordan of Ohio, and Steve Scalise of Louisiana. Tuesday night will feature Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, while subsequent nights include Sen. Joni Ernst of Iowa, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, and Tom Cotton of Arkansas, among others.

In addition to Trump, his family, and Republican legislators, the conventions will feature figures from Fox News and various recent GOP memes, including Mark and Patricia McCloskey—the suburban couple who pulled a gun on Black Lives Matter protesters—former Covington Catholic student Nicholas Sandmann, and Turning Point USA chief Charlie Kirk.


FREE MINDS

Protesters could lose right to vote in Tennessee. A new bill signed into law in Tennessee increases punishments and penalties for various protest activities. "Most notably, the new law now states that those who illegally camp on state property would now face a Class E felony, punishable by up to six years in prison, rather than a misdemeanor. Felony convictions in Tennessee result in the revocation of an individual's right to vote," reports the AP.

Meanwhile, in Texas:

DPS [the Department of Public Safety] has arrested more than a dozen Texans as part of its highly publicized, resource-laden investigation into the Capitol protests. Special agents have spent hundreds of hours this summer poring through social media posts, surveillance footage and YouTube videos to identify protesters they believed engaged in criminal activity, the agency said. The department has also publicly announced arrests and repeatedly offered up to $1,000 in cash for the public's help in naming the often-masked Capitol protesters seen in grainy screenshots investigators pull from compiled footage.

But protesters' attorneys call the DPS probe an unparalleled political "witch hunt" against protesters in which the state's police force is using tactics far too aggressive for the suspected crimes. Several have argued the reaction is an attempt to distract the public from recently heightened criticism of American law enforcement's use of force against Black people and instead bolster the perception of officers as protectors.


FREE MARKETS

Apple and Microsoft fight over Fortnite. MarketWatch reports:

Apple Inc.'s threat to revoke Epic Games Inc.'s developer account would have far-reaching effects harmful to the videogame industry, Microsoft Corp. said in a court filing Sunday.

The new filing by Epic comes amid a tense showdown with Apple, which has removed Epic videogames, such as the mega-popular "Fortnite," from its App Store over a violation of its payment rules.


QUICK HITS

• Yesterday in Wisconsin, a police officer shot a man in the back seven times, at close range, while his children watched. The man, Jacob Blake, was reportedly "getting into his car after apparently breaking up a fight between two women" and is now in critical condition.

• Kellyanne Conway is leaving the White House:

• How Facebook helped screw TikTok.

• A California Superior Court says President Trump must pay $44,100 in legal-fee reimbursement to Stormy Daniels.

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  1. The Republican Party has no new official platform for 2020.

    Like a party walks any of its planks anyway.

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  2. “The 2020 Republican Convention Doesn’t Have a Platform—It Has Trump’s Pet Peeves”

    “WAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!” – Shorter ENB

    1. this was a really salty and child like rant this morning. So just the usual.

    2. Shorter James and JesseSPAZ:

      “We want to suck Trump’s dick.”

      1. Nobody is talking about shit here, so you should probably stop salivating.

      2. “Is there poo on it?” – t. Sqrlsy

      3. Squirrelly, it’s just getting old, will you just kill yourself already? Best thing for you really. Your comments are going nowhere.

    3. “No platform” still better than a platform spearheaded by mask mandate. I’ll take a continuation of aimlessly stumbling out of unnecessary foreign wars over the alternative.

  3. Instead, the Republican National Committee is pledging to “enthusiastically support the President’s America-first agenda” and “will adjourn without adopting a new platform until the 2024 Republican National Convention.”

    Blind cult of personality worked for the previous administration.

    1. How did you deduce that the Obama administration had a blind cult of personality?

      1. Weren’t we all a little guilty of leading children in songs of adoration to a president coming in from not even halfway through his first Senate term?

        1. “Weren’t we all a little guilty of leading children in songs of adoration to a president coming in from not even halfway through his first Senate term?”

          I don’t recall any such songs, and I certainly did not lead any children in any songs, but if you can provide some of the lyrics I might remember having read about these songs. And remind me — how much of his Senate terms had Trump completed when he was inaugurated?

          1. And yet he still beat the most qualified candidate ever.

            1. I remember that now.

              ♫ “Barack loves the little children, all the children of the world” ♪

            2. I am horrified by this, which completely escaped my notice when it happened. The best I can offer in reply is that Fists’ proposal that “we are all a little guilty” is not merely false, but is also repellent, and second that it appears to have been condemned by conservatives and liberals alike.

              1. It happened almost yearly, some example of this. His peace prize. Schools named after him. Cities voting to name streets after him while in office. Pro Obama homework assignments. Etc etc.

                This isn’t even a one off.

          2. …how much of his Senate terms had Trump completed when he was inaugurated?

            One of us might be missing my point.

            1. The point being not that Obama did it as well, so it’s ok, but that cultish worship of the President is fucked up and should be condemned.

              1. Get the average human, even Americans, to stop worshiping their preferred Dear Leader? Good luck with that.

              2. I mean, Jesus, how is anyone actually enthusiastic about any of these people? I get voting against the other side, but if you’re not holding your nose while doing so…

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        2. No, but if you hum a few bars….

          1. “Mm, mm, mm … Barack Hussein Obama.”

            1. If a teacher tried shoving that crap down my kid’s throat I couldn’t promise that they would remain unmurdered.

      2. How was it not?

      3. When asshat celebrities made a commercial about how they will all follow and support Obama no matter what

      4. “I am just here to support the president of the United States,” Rock said on Wednesday. “The president of the United States is, you know, our boss.”

        “But he’s also, you know, the president and the first lady are kind of the like the mom and the dad of the country,” he said. “And when your dad says something, you listen.”

        “And when you don’t, it usually bites you in the ass later on,” Rock said. “So, I am here to support the president. Thank you.”

        1. And that right there is a big part of the problem. Stop looking to politicians for leadership and guidance outside of the political realm. Their job is to run the government, not your life.

        2. Last I checked, the President worked for me.

          And when I say something, I expect *it* to listen.

          1. What up, Trump’s ego.

        3. “Now, where’s my check?”

      5. Michael, nobody deduced it. Powers of deduction are not required for noting the obvious, e.g. the Sun rising in the east and setting in the west.

        We observe those things. Much like we observed – and continue to observe – the cult of personality around Obama.

        This video is twelve years old.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UhXaE_XL_8

      1. Seems to me that it’s a good and necessary thing that our brains numb us to certain risks we regularly encounter. People who can’t do that are germophobes and it’s not a good way to be.

        1. In January people heard new and novel ways to die and worried they would die. In August most people don’t know someone who died because of Covid and are wondering what the fuck is going on.

          1. “In August most people don’t know someone who died because of Covid…”
            That’s a good point. I don’t know anybody that’s even had it.

            “In January people heard new and novel ways to die and worried they would die.”
            I remember I think it was during the H1N1 scare, when there was a vaccine shortage, that old people were lined up in a panic to get the limited supply and some little old lady died in line from the stress.

      2. These were not opinion pieces, were they?

    1. The article is false based on the fact that media reporters at Wall have no brains.

    2. Replace ‘our’ with pantshitting, credential bowing, pear-clutching, authoritarian sniffing, illiberal, illiterate, left-wing progressives.

      I’m wearing a mask because I care about all of you as I type this….alone….in my office….asymptomatically…..

      1. You’re just such a wonderful, uh…Xi!
        Did I get that right?

        1. Aren’t I? Cass Sustein’s faux-virtuous drivel convinced me.

      2. Replace ‘our’ with pantshitting, credential bowing, pear-clutching, authoritarian sniffing, illiberal, illiterate, left-wing progressives.

        Ding. Once again, use of the 1st person plural sets off the bullshit alarm.

  4. The 2020 Republican Convention Doesn’t Have a Platform—It Has Trump’s Pet Peeves

    0.00000217/10

  5. Protesters could lose right to vote in Tennessee.

    Not voting is the ultimate protest.

    1. Totally principled and not simply cowardice at all.

      1. By all means….tell us these principles, Ciz.

    2. I agree you shouldn’t vote, but it’s not a protest in any way. There could be three people showing up to the polls in any given election and whatever sociopath wins will see it as a clear mandate from god that they have the approval of electorate to rule however they see fit.

    3. They misspelled rioter again I see.

    4. they would also lose the right to own firearms. Not gonna lie, seems a little overly harsh considering Nashville hasn’t had any issues with rioters after night one. The national guard put an end to that shit real quick, and from my understanding, Memphis and Knoxville haven’t been much worse. They’ve had protests, but from what I’ve heard, they’re actual protests, not the “peaceful protests” that Portland’s been having.

      I get that they don’t want Portland happening here, but 1. we have DAs who actually are doing their jobs and 2. no one here would put up with that if they tried it, it would end with a lot of dead antifa animals if they did.

  6. Protestors or rioters? If this is affecting people who held a sign or showed up to chant I care. If this is affecting people who assaulted others, burned other people’s property, and were stupid enough to video tape it an post it online. Well that’s called Karma bitch.

    1. Who really people to confuse protesters and rioters?

    2. Wouldn’t arson and battery typically be a felony already?

      1. Reading what rioter’s attorneys are complaining about, it seems their issue is that they are getting charged for arson and battery that they actually committed and got caught on tape committing, and the side effect of being charged for crimes they actually committed is losing their voting rights. So yeah, this seems to be Karma.

        1. Oh I thought you were more speaking about the Tennessee law which seems at first glance to be an over reaction. Yes, prosecutors should be hitting hard against anyone they can prove set fires or looted property. They deserve every day jail they get; I have no sympathy for those who thought they could get away with crimes by hiding in a large crowd.

    3. Well the specific law mentioned deals with camping on state property, so technically a crime but a victimless and nonviolent one

      1. Someone who actually RTFA.

      2. So, you won’t mind if I come camp on your property, right?

        Oh wait, you think the public cannot be a victim?

        1. The public, abstractly, cannot be a victim. Maybe there are scenarios where camping on public property leads to an actual victim or victims, but what Kevin Smith said about it being victimless is pretty standard libertarian analysis of the scenario.

  7. Apple and Microsoft fight over Fortnite.

    The loser gets flossing.

    1. Microsoft wants 200-floor sniper towers.

  8. Did China’s Consulate in Houston Use TikTok to Stir Up Antifa/BLM Riots?
    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/bryan-preston/2020/08/23/did-chinas-consulate-in-houston-use-tiktok-to-stir-up-antifa-blm-riots-n827475

    The Second Department of China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA), which is the PLA’s intelligence unit, sent staff members from a large network company, with fake IDs, to China’s Consulate in Houston. Those technicians used a large video platform’s backend data to identify people who might participate in the Black Lives Matter (BLM) and ANTIFA’s protests and then created and sent them customized videos on how to organize riots and how to do promotions.

    1. Behind China’s Twitter Campaign, a Murky Supporting Chorus
      Swarms of accounts are amplifying Beijing’s brash new messaging as the country tries to shape the global narrative about the coronavirus and much else.
      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/08/technology/china-twitter-disinformation.html

      It is far from clear that the Chinese government is behind the swarms of accounts helping to spread its gospel on Twitter. Online information campaigns are becoming increasingly sophisticated as malicious actors get better at disguising their digital activity, security experts say. They now rarely make telltale mistakes such as using social media accounts that were all created on the same day, follow one another and post the same material.

      Campaigns are often uncovered one small piece at a time. Twitter has declared operations to be state-backed after identifying as few as six accounts.

      Much is unknown about China’s covert influence activities in particular. Twitter last year suspended more than 200,000 accounts that it called a Chinese state-backed operation aimed at discrediting Hong Kong’s protesters, though it said little about how it came to that conclusion.

      1. Confessions of a Xinjiang Camp Teacher
        Qelbinur Sedik reveals the horrors she witnessed in the camps, where she was forced to teach Mandarin in 2017.
        https://thediplomat.com/2020/08/confessions-of-a-xinjiang-camp-teacher/

        But gradually the signs were impossible to ignore. Once Chen Quanguo was imported to govern Xinjiang, after quelling Tibet, the tide of surveillance, mass arrests, compulsory health checks, removal of children to state orphanages, and dismantling of the culture and religion was unstoppable.

        From September to November 2016, Qelbinur’s school began selecting its best teachers, not only for teaching skills but for their political ideology and family background. She passed with flying colors.

        On February 28, 2017, as Qelbinur recounted in her memoir, she was summoned to the town hall. She was told she would be teaching Chinese to “illiterates,” but strangely, for this mission she was made to sign a confidentiality agreement. A secret rendezvous was fixed for ‪March 1, at 7 a.m., where she was told to wait at a bus stop and call a police officer to pick her up.

        1. Sniffy says China isn’t a problem.

      2. MTrueman works for the CCP?

    2. The linked article is two removed from the original source of this accusation. Anyone read Chinese:

      https://www.rfa.org/cantonese/news/ear/ear-straw-08062020081345.html

    3. Here is a Google translate of the original story:

      According to reports, the Second Department of the General Staff of the People’s Liberation Army recruited people from a major Internet company, used false identities to go to the Houston consulate, used the background data of a major audio-visual platform in the powerful country to assist BLM and ANTIFA, and sent “tailor-made” to African Americans.

    1. The only endorsements that apply to democrats are the fine upstanding Lincoln project types that endorse Biden.

  9. Kellyanne Conway is leaving the White House…

    I think we all look forward to George’s arrival in January.

    1. George Conway is leaving the Lincoln Project, too. Their teenage daughter is trying to emancipate herself because she hates her parents and their politics — she’s doing it extremely publicly on Twitter.

      1. 15 Yr old girl bitching on social media. Truly an unusual situation.

        1. She appears to be an even bigger attention whore than Trump, which is saying something.

        2. I’d agree, but both her parents are taking it seriously enough that they are stepping down from their day jobs to deal with it.

          1. Whoa, that is not usual in political circles, putting family first.

            1. It is honorable. Also, see what I wrote about Melania Trump below:

              https://reason.com/2020/08/24/the-2020-republican-convention-doesnt-have-a-platform-it-has-trumps-pet-peeves/#comment-8419851

              I am a little reserved in praising the Conways because it’s possible it’s not so much a matter of putting family first as trying to quash embarrassment. It’s not like I personally know the Conway family, so I don’t claim to know.

  10. Jemele Hill
    @jemelehill
    Been reading Isabel Wilkerson’s new book, “Caste,” and if you were of the opinion that the United States wasn’t nearly as bad as Nazi Germany, how wrong you are. Can’t encourage you enough to read this masterpiece.
    1:34 PM · Aug 23, 2020

    1. So,the US must secretly be stripping certain ethnic groups of their rights and imprisoning them (with a long term plan to murder them all), invading neighboring countries and enthusiastically embracing a dictator. Otherwise I’m not sure how it could be worse than Nazi Germany.

      1. America did a bad thing. That trumps everyone else.

        1. In the 21st century, hurting someone’s feelings is at least as bad as putting entire groups of people in death camps. (And for advanced players, feeling sad about death camps that happened 100 years ago is actually worse than the deaths suffered at those camps.)

      2. Note that she implied that the US is as bad as or worse than Nazi Germany, so proving that Trump is literally Hitler (which is so obviously true it can be taken as an axiom) is sufficient.

        1. We’re the “good guys” and we call our political opponents the “bad guys”; so nothing that we do is wrong because we’re the “good guys”, and if you disagree then your a “bad guy” too.
          It’s all so simple, why can’t people understand.
          – t. Antifa

      3. So,the US must secretly be stripping certain ethnic groups of their rights Secretly?! They’re pretty open about it with all the White privilege and White fragility talk.

    2. But it is the Right that succumbs to paranoid conspiracy theories.

      1. The USPS conspiracy is in all of media and being shouted by most of the leadership of the Democrat. Trump/Russia lasted 3 years.

        Yet QAnon is the only conspiracy that is brought up as a conspiracy despite the majority of Americans never hearing about it.

      2. The idea that there’s a vast network of QAnon believers is a paranoid conspiracy theory.

    3. Jemele Hill is an ignoramus.

  11. The man, Jacob Blake, was reportedly “getting into his car after apparently breaking up a fight between two women” and is now in critical condition.

    In the wrong hands, a car is a deadly weapon!

    1. No doubt many here have seen the video by now. The man was blatantly walking away from several police officers, and starting to get in his car (which was full of his kids).

      Like I’ve said before, the press does a terrible job of initial reporting of just about every sensational story. There are a lot of bits of the story that need to be filled in: like what was being said right before and during the video.

  12. A California Superior Court says President Trump must pay $44,100 in legal-fee reimbursement to Stormy Daniels.

    Sounds like a scam.

    1. Does it get deducted from the legal fees she still owes Trump?

    2. Maybe she can take the money, but work it off somehow.

  13. paranoid nationalism (“Drain the Globalist Swamp”)

    That’s not really paranoid at all, tbh. Only swampies would be mad at that.

    1. Yeah why would anyone object to this sentiment?

  14. Socialism has become a luxury good for the rich:

    Thorstein Veblen’s Theory of the Leisure Class—A Status Update
    https://quillette.com/2019/11/16/thorstein-veblens-theory-of-the-leisure-class-a-status-update/

    You might think that, for example, rich kids at elite universities would be happy because their parents are in the top one per cent of income earners. And they will soon join their parents in this elite guild. But remember, they’re surrounded by other members of the one per cent. Their social circle, their Dunbar number, consists of 150 baby millionaires. Jordan Peterson has discussed this phenomenon. Citing figures from his experience teaching at Harvard in the 1990s, Peterson noted that a substantial proportion of Ivy League graduates go on to obtain a net worth of a million dollars or more by age 40. And yet, he observes, this isn’t enough for them. Not only do top university graduates want to be millionaires-in-the-making; they also want the image of moral righteousness. Peterson underlines that elite graduates desire high status not only financially, but morally as well. For these affluent social strivers, luxury beliefs offer them a new way to gain status.

    …Veblen proposed that the wealthy flaunt these symbols not because they are useful, but because they are so pricey or wasteful that only the wealthy can afford them, which is why they’re high-status indicators. And this still goes on. A couple of winters ago it was common to see students at Yale and Harvard wearing Canada Goose jackets. Is it necessary to spend $900 to stay warm in New England? No. But kids weren’t spending their parents’ money just for the warmth. They were spending the equivalent of the typical American’s weekly income ($865) for the logo. Likewise, are students spending $250,000 at prestigious universities for the education? Maybe. But they are also spending it for the logo.

    This is not to say that elite colleges don’t educate their students, or that Canada Goose jackets don’t keep their wearers warm. But top universities are also crucial for induction into the luxury belief class. Take vocabulary. Your typical middle-class American could not tell you what “heteronormative” or “cisgender” means. But if you visit Harvard, you’ll find plenty of rich 19-year-olds who will eagerly explain them to you. When someone uses the phrase “cultural appropriation,” what they are really saying is “I was educated at a top college.” Consider the Veblen quote, “Refined tastes, manners, habits of life are a useful evidence of gentility, because good breeding requires time, application and expense, and can therefore not be compassed by those whose time and energy are taken up with work.” Only the affluent can afford to learn strange vocabulary because ordinary people have real problems to worry about.

    1. Being pro-lockdown is just a status symbol for those on top, or with taxpayer guaranteed jobs:

      The Left-Wing Case Against Lockdowns
      https://lockdownsceptics.org/the-left-wing-case-against-lockdowns/

      The left should be interested in protecting working class and marginalised people and shielding them from economic hardship and exploitation, first and foremost. However, by many reasonable projections, these lockdown policies are delivering us into the worst economic depression in world history, and this will certainly negatively affect working class and marginalised people more than anyone else. Small businesses are being swallowed up by the thousands by large multinational corporations like Amazon (very much like a novel virus, sweeping through our populations and killing off the weakest among us), and automation has now taken on a whole new impetus for these companies. There will be few jobs left to return to for those furloughed by this lockdown, and there will be no resources to invest in worthy left-wing causes such as better public healthcare and vaccines, renewable energy systems, public transport, universal basic income, upskilling of the workforce, etc. We have developed complete tunnel vision on one cause of death, and forgotten or relegated all of the other causes of human death and suffering. We are now casually discussing the possibility of new famines in Africa and India and of economic bailouts three times the size of the 2008 economic crash, after just one month of lockdown. These outcomes are by no means guaranteed by the appearance of Covid-19 itself. This is the shocking result of lockdown policy, and a stark reminder of how disastrous public policy can be in the wrong hands. The economy is not just some toy for the ultra-rich (although aspects of it can be, e.g. stock markets), it is also crucial to the continued prosperity and flourishing of average working families. Therefore, the flippant dismissal of economic concerns by some on the left is a massive mistake, the consequences of which will be suffered for generations, and the weight of which will fall particularly on the shoulders of young people like myself. This has never been about life versus money, it has always been about life versus life.

      1. This is what always pissed me off the most about Nancy Pelosi showing off her $45-a-quart ice cream in her $12,000 freezer – she was showing how easy it was to just stay home and avoid the pandemic. Never mind that she had electricity because some people weren’t staying home, she had Amazon delivering her groceries because some people weren’t staying home, she had groceries for Amazon to even deliver because some people weren’t staying home, and if she did get sick she could go to the hospital because some people weren’t staying home – she could even have a cameraman filming her smarmy-ass “staying at home” bullshit because the cameraman wasn’t keeping his ass at home. The epitome of the stupid-ass bitch that thinks electricity comes out of a wall socket, water comes out of a faucet, and meat comes from the grocery store.

        1. Of course, Nancy Pelosi is one of the “smart” ones, but she has no understanding of how ignorant she is. You can’t just switch the economy off and on like a light switch, modern production is based on long supply chains that operate largely on trust, trust that people are going to be able to deliver the shit you need when you need it, and knocking that shit for a loop destroys that trust, fucks shit up far beyond just the immediate moment.

          Take that ice cream she buys, it’s premium ice cream so no doubt it uses real vanilla flavoring. Does she knows how vanilla extract is produced, where it comes from? If a vanilla extracting plant closes down, what happens to the vanilla bean farmers with nowhere to sell their product? Can the plant just stockpile vanilla beans until it re-opens? How much vanilla extract stock do we have floating around while the plant is closed down? A week’s supply, a month’s supply, a year’s supply? How badly does a vanilla extract plant’s closure affect the world supply, how many vanilla extract plants are there world-wide? What’s happening with the shipment of vanilla extract? How do they even ship vanilla extract? Tanker ship, tanker trucks, 5 gallon buckets, palletized boxes full of bottles? Are the ships or the trains or the trucks still running?

          See, Nancy Pelosi doesn’t know any of this shit, she’s never even thought about any of this shit, she’s totally ignorant of the fact that she doesn’t know any of this shit – but she’s supremely confident of the fact that she knows all she needs to know about this shit to make command decisions about this shit. A more arrogantly ignorant delusional person it’s hard to imagine.

          1. Ask the pork and chicken farmers who are getting below break even prices (if they can even find buyers) right now because most of the processors were shutdown. Beef is a little better, because of the longer time it takes to finish, but just barely.

            1. SM76, have the Chinese helped to prop up those ag commodity markets? If not, why not, I wonder?

              A LOT of their farmland is under water now, and both birds and swine populations have been crippled by avian and swine flues respectively.

    1. Only if spouses and family “culture” were also randomly assigned.

    2. The dramatic increase in child abuse would be wonderfully egalitarian because black parents could finally abuse their white children to the same degree as white parents abuse black children!

      1. (sarc, if it wasn’t obvious)

    3. because human trafficking is fine if the government does it?

  15. A few planks of Trump’s new agenda sound good—such as “Stop Endless Wars and Bring Our Troops Home.” But Trump promised that last time too, and he has done no such thing.

    Lol. Wow.

    1. No new wars? Check
      Bring troops home? Darth Cheney’s daughter got together with the Dems to try to stop that.

      1. And Afghanistan a few months away.

  16. Where Have All the Conservatives Gone?

    As Politico points out, “the supposed canons of GOP orthodoxy—limited government, free enterprise, institutional conservation, moral rectitude, fiscal restraint, global leadership—have in recent years gone from elastic to expendable. Identifying this intellectual vacuum is easy enough. Far more difficult is answering the question of what, quite specifically, has filled it.”

    Weird I didn’t see this angle from the DNC despite the far left turn. Is ENB going to join the Lincoln Project?

    1. Why would a libertarian feminist join a conservative group. Because she quoted one conservative camp’s criticism of another conservative camp?

      1. She quoted politico dumbfuck. She is giving the exact same talking points the never trump groups do dummy. She may as well join. Takes no deep thought.

        You are really terrible at basic understanding of things.

      2. Is there anything even conservative about the Lincoln Project, other than it’s stocked with a bunch of neocons and former Republican operatives that were pretty useless at actually conserving anything?

        1. I suppose the Lincoln Project represents the previous, Bush, era of conservatism.

      3. “libertarian feminist” = oxymoronica.

  17. Where Have All the Conservatives Gone?

    Yay, concern trolling.
    I’m pretty sure that the herd ENB runs with have always thought that conservatives can go to hell.

  18. I wonder how many family members of billionaires had this happen. No, I don’t; this is for the proles.

    We also have to keep the death counts up to keep the proles scared.

    NHS asked care homes to place ‘Do Not Resuscitate’ orders on all residents at height of pandemic
    One in 10 staff members changed DNR plans without discussion with family members, nursing staff, or residents
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/08/23/care-homes-asked-place-blanket-do-not-resuscitate-orders-residents/

    Care homes were asked by NHS managers and GPs to place blanket ‘Do not resuscitate’ (DNR) orders on all their residents at the height of the coronavirus pandemic to keep hospital beds free, a new report has found.

    The Queen’s Nursing Institute (QNI) – the world’s oldest nursing charity – discovered one in 10 care home staff surveyed was ordered to change DNR plans without discussion with family members, nursing staff, or with the residents themselves.

  19. https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1297868720090615811

    Wisconsin:

    Is this suicide by cop or something? Why in God’s name would you continue walking and then open a car door and reach inside while police have their guns pointed at you? If anyone of any race does that, they take their lives into their hands.

    1. not a wise move, but the cops had him outnumbered and he was unarmed. they could have just tackled him.

    1. Wait, burning the flag is passé now? Damn, there goes my idea to invent fabric made of fireworks, design a flag out of it, and market it to protesters.

  20. Church That Celebrated ‘Black Lives Matter’ Burns in Kenosha
    https://summit.news/2020/08/24/church-that-celebrated-black-lives-matter-burns-in-kenosha/
    After a night of rioting and looting in Kenosha, Wisconsin, one of the buildings to catch fire was a community church which displayed a marquee outside the building celebrating ‘Black Lives Matter’.

    1. My town. Church didn’t catch fire. Damn shame though

      1. I was thinking similarly. It was a Unitarian “Church”.

    2. To quote white knight “you can’t prove they are BLM affiliated. You didn’t interview each one and get another person from blm to vouch for them. And even if they say they are they don’t mean it if they are looting”

      1. Ra’s was very accurate in saying they have a sign outside the church that says “Black Lives Matter”. So, he (or the author of the article) gets points for not calling it a “BLM church”.

        1. There’s the idiocy we’ve come to expect.

  21. “As Politico points out. . . .” Holy hell.

  22. Oxford Professor Says People Have Become “Overly Frightened” of Coronavirus
    https://summit.news/2020/08/24/oxford-professor-says-people-have-become-overly-frightened-of-coronavirus/

    Carl Heneghan, a professor of evidence-based medicine at Oxford University, says governments have failed in accurately communicating the actual threat posed by coronavirus, leading people to become “overly frightened” due to misplaced fear.

    Heneghan was responsible for the UK government significantly lowering its official COVID-19 death toll after he revealed that health authorities were counting coronavirus deaths even if someone had subsequently died of other causes.

    Urging people to “get on with your lives!” Heneghan said that exaggerated fears over the pandemic had led to “people going about their daily lives misunderstanding and overestimating their risk.”

    “We reset how we calculate the death rates. We now need to reset how we communicate the risks of the virus,” said Heneghan.

    “I am concerned people have become overly frightened and throughout this pandemic, the fear instilled in people has been a real problem,” he added.

    1. …..the fear instilled in people has been a real problem opportunity ,” he added.

    2. Love that British understatement. People have lost their fucking shit.

    3. even if someone had subsequently died of other causes

      I’m not dead yet!

  23. Good news for the people of New York City if President Trump is reelected despite you–your government will become smaller.

    “New York City faces a $9 billion deficit over the next two years, high levels of unemployment and the prospect of laying off 22,000 government workers if new revenue or savings aren’t found in the coming weeks.

    . . . .

    New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio asked state lawmakers for authorization to borrow up to $5 billion to fund operating costs. Democrats who control the state Senate objected, and the request hasn’t been granted.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york-city-faces-toughest-fiscal-crisis-since-the-1970s-11598205600

    So many important things to learn from this!

    1) The government will never become so flush with cash that they decide to cut spending. Spending cuts in a meaningful way only happen when there is no other option–no tax raises, no bailouts.

    2) $1 trillion of the $3.5 trillion stimulus package Pelosi and the House Democrats passed was intended to bail out states like New York and cities like New York City. When President Trump defeated all potential Republican support for that stimulus package by extending unemployment benefits through election day, he ensured that California, Illinois, and New York wouldn’t get a federal bailout.

    If President Trump is reelected, the states will continue to be refused a bailout, and state governments around the country will continue to shrink as they have been. Voting Libertarian or abstaining may be a way to show your support for smaller government in a symbolic way, but voting for President Trump is a vote for smaller government in reality.

    P.S. If the Democrats in Albany won’t even bail out New York City, why should the rest of the country’s taxpayers do so with a federal bailout?

    1. Voting Libertarian or abstaining may be a way to show your support for smaller government in a symbolic way, but voting for President Trump is a vote for smaller government in reality.

      And while this may sound counterintuitive, so does/did “It costs more money to shut down the government.”

    2. Starve the beast.
      Looks like it works!

  24. December 23, 1838:

    The Southern people are growing poorer every day in the midst of their slaves and their vast landed estates: whilst every day sees the arrival amongst them of some penniless Yankee, who presently turns the very ground he stands upon into wealth, and departs a lord of riches at the end of a few years, leaving the sleepy population among whom has amassed them floated still further down the tide of dwindling prosperity….

    At a small place called Waynesborough… I asked for a glass of milk, and they told me they had no such thing.

    1. Golly, wonder which party was in power there and then?

      1. Make believe is about all you have.

        1. So the 1800s South wasn’t heavily democrat?

          1. What in the world is the relevance of the 19th century Democratic and Republican parties to the 21st century ones? Heck, the 2020 Republican Party is completely different from even the 2012 Republican Party. And the Democratic Party has been through at least two or three major metamorphoses since antebellum times.

            1. What in the world is the relevance of the 19th century Democratic… parties
              Did you miss the “December 23, 1838” at the top of Strazele’s post?

              the Democratic Party has been through at least two or three major metamorphoses since antebellum times.
              Pretty sure that the “Solid South” and the KKK were DNC institutions up until modern times.

              B-b-b-but, they switched parties. Yeah, that’s the ticket
              One southern Democrat switched parties.
              The rest, including those who filibustered the ’64 CRA, stayed Democrats until they were out of office. They remained Democrats until they died.
              There was no switch. The record of who was in Congress proves that.
              This is a lie perpetrated by the party of slavery, of Jim Crow, of the Black Codes, of the KKK, of segregation. The party of redlining, of destroying the black family, of creating ghettoes.

              1. “Did you miss the “December 23, 1838” at the top of Strazele’s post?”

                Saw that. Also saw that he never mentioned Democrats or Republicans Also saw that JesseAz did — I was responding to his comment.

                ” Pretty sure that the “Solid South” and the KKK were DNC institutions up until modern times.”

                “Modern times” being, like, the 1960s at latest. I don’t know, maybe you are an old fart like me, but I’ve accepted that the 1960s were 60 years ago. They are no longer “modern times”.

                1. They are no longer “modern times”

                  Redefining words and then loudly claiming that the original statement is wrong because your redefinition changes the meaning, is pretty much the only trick you have left. Isn’t it.

                  1. “Loudly”? Did I use all caps or something?

                    All I did was disagree with something you said.

                    1. I’m not going to let you weasel out of this with persuasive definition and word games.

            2. Holy shit you’re fucking dumb. I didn’t bring up the dates dummy.

          2. So the 1800s south is relevant how?

            Haha. “Progressives”. Always livin’ in the past.

        2. Yeah, now you’re just being evasive.
          Answer the question.

  25. treating “drive-by shootings as acts of Domestic Terrorism.”
    Well, it’s not exactly a friendly gesture now is it?

    1. If it is a gang-related classic drive-by, it is absolutely an act of terrorism. I don’t mean “hyperbolicly” or as an analogy… it is literally the dictionary definition of terrorism.

      Gangs use drive-by shootings to create a sense of fear of their power and ruthlessness in order to obtain control over an area. It is literally the use of fear of random acts of violence to obtain the submission of the people to their power.

      You might object to the language or to federal involvement, but it is kind of stupid to operate from the assumption that calling gang-related drive-by shootings acts of terrorism is somehow unhinged.

      1. The definition fits, but I don’t much like the idea of federal anti-terrorism laws being applied to ordinary domestic criminal acts.

        1. What if they are criminal acts that are specifically designed to instill terror.

          To wit: A chapter of the Bloods gang decides to assert control over a neighborhood in Los Angeles. They coordinate drive-by shootings at the homes of several rival gang members in the area over the course of a week or two. They spray the houses with gunfire, killing a couple of people and injuring several more.

          It is literally a large group using random violence against the populous to gain control.

          Would you treat this differently than someone who professes fealty to the Islamic Jihad and shoots up a gay night club?

          The former is definitely a coordinated group action to perpetrate violence against society-at-large. The latter is one individual inspired to acts of extreme violence by the rhetoric of a far-distant movement.

          Both are acts of overt political violence. One is coordinated and controlled by a large and powerful local group. The other is some nutcase who saw something on the internet and decided to join in.

          I know which of those two quacks more like a duck.

          1. Still not a federal issue if there isn’t a clear link to a foreign or interstate conspiracy. If you went and murdered a bunch of people, I think that state murder laws will provide adequate punishment.

            1. The Bloods operate throughout the US and Canada. They also have a black nationalist ideology to go along with their organized crime.

              How exactly would you distinguish them from Islamic Jihadists in your definitions?

              1. I never said anything about distinguishing them from Islamic Jihadists. Apply the same standards to them all. Show some good evidence that an international conspiracy is behind the specific acts of violence and maybe you have a federal or national security case.

          2. crime is a local issue. except for counterfeiting, piracy and treason.

            1. And name calling, don’t forget the name calling.

  26. The “conservative-libertarian alliance” never existed. It was a stupid vision developed by a fringe movement within a fringe movement that was a failure from the outset.

    1. I don’t know. I sort of think that a certain amount of what might be called conservatism would be necessary in a libertarian society. Not the conservatism that seeks to impose a particular morality, but a conservatism that acknowledges the value of a lot of cultural traditions and that certain values and cultural practices are necessary if people are to continue to be free and rule themselves.

      1. This is what most libertarians don’t get. They imagine that a libertarian society would give them more freedom to act. In reality, libertarian self-governance would likely restrict freedoms to act far more than they are currently restricted by law.

        What many self-identified libertarians want is a communist utopia where they can do whatever they want, not a self-governing, privately regulated libertarian society.

      2. I think you are right, but I would label that more as a sentimental conservatism than a political conservatism. Living in family units of two parents and one to four children, for example, would likely be maintained in a libertarian society. Not because of incentives provided by the state, like we have today, but because it is a familiar system and it probably has a useful function by itself.

        However, I don’t see the attraction some have to a “conservative-libertarian alliance” when these practices would exist regardless of conservative politics, because, as you say, these values do not need to be imposed.

    2. The alliance never existed mostly because “libertarians” aren’t actually very “libertarian”. The primary libertarian focus should be on domestic deregulation and lower taxes. Instead, libertarians push the leftist playbook of “how to get democracies to self-destruct by using liberal principles against themselves”.

    3. I have always been a libertarian-libertarian, and always thought that the conservative-libertarian alliance was a bad idea. But I don’t think it failed — there are plenty of adherents hanging out in this very commentariat. They are even hanging onto the alliance though the Republican Party’s conversion from conservatism to a Trump personality cult.

      1. To the extent that such an alliance ever existed, wouldn’t it be more accurately described as a parasitic relationship? Some libertarians may have been welcoming to conservatives, but no conservatives ever welcomed libertarians.

        1. You might be right.

  27. What do socialists want? People obeying orders from the state and hating/fearing other dirty, dangerous individual citizens. What has the pandemic caused? Same. Fear individuals; any of them could be a disease carrier even if they don’t show symptoms. Obey the state. Governor says shut down? Obey. Arbitrary designations of what is or is not essential? Obey.

    Socialists have gotten everything they want, and the economy is in the tank and people are miserable and dying.

    Fuck you, socialists.

    1. Fuck them? I favor criminalizing their Marxist behavior. At the constitutional level. Then force them out.

  28. https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1297772664333860865

    It should alarm you how normal this is.

    Another night of rioters doing whatever they want.

    This time in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

    1. Thin blue line made sure to protect city buildings. Worthless pigs

  29. https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1297512155915227137

    Given that there is no real law enforcement in Portland at night, how long before some entrepreneur starts selling “fight club” vacation packages to right-wingers who enjoy punching anarchists?

    1. https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1297347916709806081

      We have two opposing teams with uniforms, and now I hear a cheering section and a band. Police are referees, but they only whistle the serious fouls. This is a sport.

      1. Beats the hell out of the NBA and MLB.

  30. Their laziness, their filthiness, their inconceivable stupidity, and unconquerable good humor, are enough to drive one stark-staring mad.

    1. But enough about Antifa.

  31. BBC: DNC 2020: Joe Biden convention speech fact-checked
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53858940

    Mr Biden said one of his goals would be to “wipe out the stain of racism” and he recalled the far-right protests in Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017 which led to violent clashes and left one counter-protester dead.

    He said: “Remember what the President said when asked, he said there were, quote, very fine people on both sides”.

    Mr Biden said that after this moment “I knew I had to run” for president.

    According to a transcript of a press conference on 15 August, President Trump did say – when asked about the presence of neo-Nazis at the rally – “you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides.”

    During the same press conference, Mr Trump went on to say “I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally.”

  32. The 2020 Republican Convention Doesn’t Have a Platform—It Has Trump’s Pet Peeves

    Democrat platform: massive growth in government, massive new taxes, massive new regulations, massive new social programs, massive new spending, massive interference in private lives, promise of foreign entanglements, imposition of racist policies, inspired by 20th century socialists and fascists

    Republican platform: mostly minor things and Trump’s pet peeves

    Guess which one Reason prefers.

    1. To be fair, Reason did hit at the Democrats during the DNC, though probably not as hard as they’ll go against the Republicans this week.

      1. That’s just Reason’s generic contrarian impulse.

        1. It’s not really an impulse. Being critical of the two major (non-libertarian) parties is part of their fundamental philosophy.

          1. You literally just stated that you believe the Republicans are nothing but a cult, you self-contradicting piece of shit.

            The White Knight
            August.24.2020 at 10:59 am
            I have always been a libertarian-libertarian, and always thought that the conservative-libertarian alliance was a bad idea. But I don’t think it failed — there are plenty of adherents hanging out in this very commentariat. They are even hanging onto the alliance though the Republican Party’s conversion from conservatism to a Trump personality cult.

            1. It depends on what you mean by “the Republicans”. The current National Republican Party and the Republicans who are in its favor are part of an ongoing conversion to an Trump cult.

              But if by “the Republicans” we are referring to every Republican voter out there and Republicans, like say Romney and George Will, who are out of favor, then not everyone is part of the cult. There is loyal opposition still.

              1. Remember folks, neutral Mikey doesn’t choose sides. He just calls one side a cult.

                1. The Democrats are cultish about the Kennedy family and Obama family, and to some degree about the Clintons. So, it’s not just the Republicans who can be cultish. However, Trump is leading a blatant ostracizing of anyone who shows any disloyalty.

          2. They’re not critical, they are contrarian.

        2. No, their generic contrarian impulse is only against one side. I was surprised to see not just one random article criticizing Democrats, but a whole bunch of them for most of a whole week. As I said below, I think the authoritarian leftism of today’s Democrats was just so blatantly on display that not even Reason writers could ignore it for that week.

          1. They’re basically the goth kids in high school, who want to think of themselves as “non” conformist, but want more than anything to be approved of by the “cool” kids (who they think are the left), so everything is a signal to that cause

            1. So, if that is your view of Reason, why would you spend your precious time here?

                1. Glad I could give your life purpose.

                  1. Reason = life to you?
                    Sad

      2. What is the standard for hardness of going after them?

        1. The Mohs Scale? Their hardness on Democrats is a 2 (gypsum). Their hardness on Republicans is an 8 or 9 (topaz, corundum).

          1. Well played.

        2. There is no objective standard, but there will be plenty of other commenters comparing headlines from this week with those of last week. It will generally follow the pattern of Democrats being portrayed as well-meaning but foolish, whereas Republicans will be portrayed as pure evil, pure stupid, or both.

          I’ll be impressed if Reason writers can manage to criticize the Republican platform this week without the emotionally charged language they usuaully use to criticize Republicans, but it’s not looking good so far (seriously, the President’s policy agenda are pet peeves now?).

          1. I also want to add that the fact that Reason writers would criticize Democrats at all is quite rare, and I suspect the reason they had to do so last week was because it was so glaring that even they couldn’t ignore it. Now that that’s over, they can return to their regular Orange Man Bad schedule.

          2. So is it not so much that they don’t criticize equally as that one side they characterize as foolish and the other as evil?

            Because I can see how that would be something real to feel slighted by.

          3. When you compare headlines are you going to factor in how active each of the two major parties is, in terms of speeches given, tweets tweeted, bills voted on, executive orders signed, and so on?

            1. Such a loyal intern.

              1. I’d be proud to be a Reason intern.

    2. Reason attacked the Democrat convention just last week. Repeatedly. You’re an idiot.

      1. Maybe what Moonrocks wrote here gets more at the heart of the complaint against Reason is. Maybe it’s not so much unequal amount of coverage, as painting Republicans as evil, while Democrats are only painted as misguided:

        https://reason.com/2020/08/24/the-2020-republican-convention-doesnt-have-a-platform-it-has-trumps-pet-peeves/#comment-8419659

        I can see something to the complaint. You rank-and-file Republican supporter is not evil. When it comes to Donald Trump, himself, though, there’s no getting around that he is indeed a vile, reprehensible person.

        1. He’s better than you

    3. Reason is a libertarian organization. They don’t prefer either of the two major parties, and they criticize both. They are more focused on criticizing whichever happens to be in power.

      This is the plain to see if you are not especially sensitive to criticism of one of the major parties.

  33. “The 2020 Republican Convention Doesn’t Have a Platform—It Has Trump’s Pet Peeves”

    …which align well with the pet peeves of his voters, and, since they are Trump’s pet peeves, he will try to do something about them, which is more than what can be said about how GOP politicians treated voter priorities in previous party platforms.

    1. Yeah, he should run on a principled Republican platform like “No new taxes.”

      1. “Read my lips.”

  34. https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1297662018246279169

    Let’s say that the United States was functionally as bad as Nazi Germany. Could that possibly be true if someone had to read a very specific book in the year 2020 to come to that conclusion?

    1. Speaking as someone whose family lost everything under the Nazis: anyone who claims that the US is “functionally as bad as Nazi Germany” is an evil, ignorant a–hole.

      (Though not for lack of trying: the Democratic platform is pretty close to the NSDAP platform.)

      1. Came here to say the same.

  35. But the Brownshirts are a loose, decentralized network of interconnected activists, many of whom “joined” the Sturmabteilung just by applying the word to themselves. Treating them all as terrorists is akin to slapping the label on anyone who labels their politics “fascist” or “communist.”

    Fixed for 1935.

    I’m almost positive ENB is using a Media Matters talking-points cheat sheet.

    1. Think she waits for Vox to pick up the narrative. And politico.

    2. Couldn’t you still just say “Anti-fa” in 1935?

      I think people need to be judged on actual behavior and not what groups they claim membership in. But it is just silly to pretend that Antifa isn’t all about creating violence and chaos. Even if you are fighting actual Brownshirts, being a violent commie militant is not a good thing.

    3. you could also put the red guard in for brownshirts and in many ways antifa is the red guard.

      1. Antifa-BLM, brownshirts, red guards… all the same

        1. Well, they are all violent authoritarians. But there are ideological differences (if more subtle than most people imagine).

          1. Totalitarian, not just authoritarian.

            And the ideological differences are just slight variations of wrapping around the same thesis: progressivism.
            They will create New Man through the State, using violence to impose their centrally planned moral code. People are not people, just units of assigned identity classes

  36. https://twitter.com/niggligg/status/1296596626811899909

    step 1: invite socially starved 18 year olds to campus

    step 2: let them spread covid on campus and in dorms

    step 3: blame 18 year olds for poor judgement

    step 4: close campus completely after add/drop and use the freshmen as justification + charge full tuition

    step 5: profit

    1. The Fyre Festival like food that those who pay 70k a year to attend (NYU) is hilarious though. Poor little rich babies crying about their non vegan meals.

    2. Updated plan:

      1. Partner with Pornhub. Have Pornhub place webcams throughout every room in every dorm.

      2. Have returning students signed ‘amended’ student agreements containing releases for any camera footage obtained by the university anywhere in campus.

      3. Turn returning sex starved students loose on campus. Wait for horned up coeds to get their fuck on.

      4. Monetize camera footage from Pornhub partnership through new ‘Crazy COVID Campus Fuckfest’ website.

  37. “For Democrats, it’s meant an incredibly depressing turn away from the tolerant, privacy-minded, pro-free-speech, civil libertarian, and anti-war tenets that guided at least parts of the party and left-wing politics for much of the 20th century.

    At the same time, free markets and a distaste for economic regulation—the cornerstone of conservative-libertarian fusion—are less popular, and sometimes an outright anathema, to modern Republicans.”

    In other words, dominant D and R policies have succumbed to pandering to party member feelings, feelings focused on how they think the world should be (and what others should be forced to do to achieve that world). Liberals have abandoned free speech because some statements hurt their feelings and deny their delusion of a progressive utopia. Conservatives have abandoned free markets because competitive success (and failure) hurt their feelings about local and national superiority and deny their delusion of a static, old-school utopia.

    1. The left never really believed in free speech. They were just upset that their own communist ox was being gored.

      “When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles.”

  38. “State and local governments reduced spending at a 5.6% annual rate in the second quarter as they laid off workers and pulled back on services to offset plunging tax revenues. More cuts are on the way.

    Moody’s Analytics estimates that without additional federal aid, state and local budget shortfalls will total roughly $500 billion over the next two fiscal years.”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-hit-state-budgets-create-a-drag-on-u-s-recovery-11597224600?

    This, ladies and gentlemen, is what it looks like when the government gets smaller, and denying the states a bailout under these circumstances may be the greatest libertarian blow struck for smaller government since I don’t know when.

    Do you or don’t you believe in small government?

    If Biden is elected, the states will almost certainly get a bail out.

  39. For Democrats, it’s meant an incredibly depressing turn away from the tolerant, privacy-minded, pro-free-speech, civil libertarian, and anti-war tenets that guided at least parts of the party and left-wing politics for much of the 20th century.

    Really? When did those “tenets” ever actually guide Democrats? When did Democrats demonstrate tolerance, support privacy, support free speech, support civil liberties, or end wars?

    At the same time, free markets and a distaste for economic regulation—the cornerstone of conservative-libertarian fusion—are less popular, and sometimes an outright anathema, to modern Republicans.

    Yeah, Republicans finally are figuring out that you can’t institute free trade and free movement of people across borders until you actually have a free market and low economic regulation inside our own borders; anything else is economic suicide, and when it involves communist slave states, also political suicide.

    1. “Really? When did those “tenets” ever actually guide Democrats? When did Democrats demonstrate tolerance, support privacy, support free speech, support civil liberties, or end wars?”

      When you want something to be true really, really bad, it’s almost like it is true–to the person who really wants it. That may seem like delusional thinking, but I’m not the only one. Maybe someday you’ll join us. And the wooooorld will live as one.

      1. Do you have an answer to my question? Any examples of when Democrats actually acted upon those tenets? I mean, they paid plenty of lip service to them, but that doesn’t cost anything.

        So, examples?

        1. I’m agreeing with you.

          “For Democrats, it’s meant an incredibly depressing turn away from the tolerant, privacy-minded, pro-free-speech, civil libertarian, and anti-war tenets that guided at least parts of the party and left-wing politics for much of the 20th century.”

          The reason people believed the Democrats were ever about those tenets was because they were willfully delusional.

          They wanted to believe that’s what the Democrats were about so much that they came to believe that’s what the Democrats were about–despite the facts.

          Here are some examples:

          Who among the Democrats was privacy minded, and are these the same people who still oppose pardoning Snowden because he perpetrated the unpardonable sin of making Barack Obama look bad?

          When were the Democrats pro-free speech? Even the ACLU is against free speech now!

          Anti-war? Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton–are you serious?! They rubber stamped everything the Bush Administration did since 2001 and universally hate anti-war people like Tulsi Gabbard today–for being anti-war.

          Tolerant? A group of people who can’t tolerate anything that makes them feel uncomfortable is an intolerant group.

          The people who believe the Democrats were these things are willfully delusional. They think like Lennon in “Imagine”–if enough of us believe it, somehow it will become true.

          It isn’t true.

          1. A group of people who can’t tolerate anything that makes them feel uncomfortable is an intolerant group.

            The word tolerance has been corrupted and now means prejudice in the parlance of the left. Microaggressions, BLM, and all the other bullshit that the progs and Marxists have espoused and the Democrats have embraced whole-heatedly, are exactly the opposite of tolerance, taking offense at the smallest slight and assigning ill intention where none exists.

            They have no forgiveness in their hearts, only judgement.

    2. ENB thinks the Dems were anti-war when they were really anti-Bush. She thinks they were for an open marketplace of ideas when they were for free speech for themselves and suppression of voices that were against them.

      1. She probably thinks they’re pro-sex worker, too.

        People tend to see what they want to see, and when they really, really want to see it, that tendency increases.

      2. And their support for privacy begins and ends at the right of a mother to murder an unborn child. Any other privacy issues like buying a home, buying a gun, starting a business, teaching your kids as you see fit, etc., etc. they’ve near universally opposed it.

        1. They don’t even support privacy for abortion. That, too, will be regulated by the state if they ever gain enough control, like those forced abortion policies in communist countries that garden-variety leftists in the west admire and openly praise.

      3. Or perhaps some democrats are/were anti-war and some are not. Just like Republicans and everyone else. There is definitely a large group of Ds that just goes with whatever the party line is at the moment. But there are definitely some consistent pro and anti war people in the party.

  40. plus the read meat du jour of Republican’s cultural vengeance menu

    It’s a cookbook!

    1. Wow, they corrected that one fast.

  41. Wow, that was a Gish-gallop of TDS.

    Let’s just focus on the first bit – Pie in the sky wish list.

    1. 10 million jobs in 10 months.

    That’s not only not even arguably pie in the sky, that’s inevitable. We lost 30 million jobs (or more) due to covid shutdowns. Ending the shutdowns should bring back way more than 1/3 of those jobs.

    2. Return to normal in 2021. Well, that’s probably also a given. I mean, Covid is either going to burn itself out or we are going to burn ourselves out. But either way, some time in the next 14 months, we are going to return to normalcy.

    3. Clean up our planet’s oceans. (Ok, I don’t even know what that means. If we are talking about plastic waste, it isn’t a US caused problem. But maybe he’s saying that he wants to put pressure on China to clean up their act. That would be a coherent policy that weaves together environmentalism with a sense of trade policy that seeks a level playing field. After all, if you can just dump your waste in the ocean instead of processing it properly, you certainly save a lot of up-front costs.

    So the first 2 are just flat-out wrong to even criticize. It is like criticizing Trump for claiming the sun will rise in the east tomorrow. The last one … well, you can certainly file that under “pie in the sky”, but since I live in a city with a democrat enacted ban on plastic straws, I’m not really feeling too charitable about labeling that some Trump-inspired delusion. Somehow I don’t think you’d be waving your Trump flag if he had said “don’t do anything about cleaning up the ocean” instead.

    1. Suggesting that government creates jobs rather than private business is a socialist argument. This is not wrong to criticize.

      1. That is not the criticism.

        The criticism was that it was “pie in the sky” to think that 10 million jobs would be created over 10 months.

        If you want to criticize Trump for rhetorical flourishes, have at it.

        But there is little doubt that employment will increase by 10 million over the next 10 months. And since government played a huge role in the loss of 30 million jobs, removing those government impediments will likely allow some of those jobs to return.

        1. I think the article’s criticism fits your description. Predicting that 10 million jobs will be created during the next 10 months is a good guess, but demographic forecasting is not the job of a political platform.

          It uses “create” as a verb, suggesting that, “we, the Republican Party, will create 10 million jobs in 10 months,” which deserves the “pie in the sky” description because when you consider the current conditions the Republicans could lose every seat in Congress and those 10 million jobs will still be created.

    2. So the first 2 are just flat-out wrong to even criticize. It is like criticizing Trump for claiming the sun will rise in the east tomorrow.

      It’s becoming a death cult. Like something from Mad Max or The Walking Dead. That people have the optimism to think that the sun will rise tomorrow shows that they are the bourgeoisie who need to have whatever it is that gives them optimism redistributed.

  42. We must let foreigners bail out rioters and terrorists, ’cause free trade and all.


    • It promises to not only end cashless bail but keep people suspected of crimes “locked up until trial”—something that goes explicitly against the core U.S. justice system principle of innocent until proven guilty.

    • It promises to revitalize the War on Terror by treating “drive-by shootings as acts of Domestic Terrorism.”

    • It says that for immigrants—including people who immigrated here legally but are not U.S. citizens—being part of anything that authorities deem a gang will be grounds for deportation.

  43. North Carolina 1838:

    In the meantime the coaches were surrounded by a troop of gazing boors, who had come from far and near to see the hot water carriages come up for only the third time into the midst of their savage solitude. A more forlorn, fierce, poor, and good-looking set of people, short of absolute savages, I never saw. They wandered round and round us, with a stupid kind of dismayed wonder.

    1. You need to double up on your lithium and contact your psychiatrist.

    2. North Carolina 1838:

      Congress: 8 Democrats, 5 Whigs
      United States Senate: Robert Strange and Bedford Brown, both Democrats
      Governor: Richard Dobbs Spaight Jr., Democrat

      1. I’d guess it might be a steam engine, but aren’t we just talking about one of Lord’s fevered dreams?

        What does this have to do with anything?

  44. And all the cultists come out to bitch about this article rightfully calling it out as a cult..

    1. Tell me again about the “lightbringer”.

      1. The creases in his pants sends a tingle up my leg.

    2. “And all the cultists come out to bitch about this article rightfully calling it out as a cult..”

      Bringing out the lefty TDS victims to whine.

      1. Cult cult of personality around Trump doesn’t much come from his supporters, but rather his fanatical haters.
        It is both sad and hilarious

  45. So ENB is arguing that there are good people calling themselves antifa, therefore the whole group should not be condemned.

    But what is the precedent for judging that sort of reasoning? Oh yes, she is therefore a horrible apologist for Marxists and racists.

    1. There are very fine people burning down Portland.

    2. Are the trains running on time? Whadaya want, anyway?

    3. So ENB is arguing that there are good people calling themselves antifa, therefore the whole group should not be condemned.

      Also, fuck Christians and their oppressive morality, what the fuck did those goose-stepping assholes ever do for Western Society?

  46. A few planks of Trump’s new agenda sound good—such as “Stop Endless Wars and Bring Our Troops Home.” But Trump promised that last time too, and he has done no such thing. And this document lends further doubt to that anti-endless-war commitment when, two points beneath the anti-war plank, it promises to “Maintain and Expand America’s Unrivaled Military Strength.”

    Sometimes it’s breathtaking how purposefully dishonest ENB can be.

  47. Still better than democrats platform of socialism. Or libertarians platform of fantasy.

  48. The 2020 Republican Convention Doesn’t Have a Platform—It Has Trump’s Pet Peeves

    Ummm…..The Republican Convention only started about an hour ago and Trump isn’t even there yet. I think this comment might be just a wee bit speculative.

  49. But antifa is a loose, decentralized network of interconnected activists, many of whom “joined” antifa just by applying the word to themselves.

    Sort of like Al Qaeda.

    1. And she misspelled “thugs”

  50. Communist/Socialist failure killing 250,000 people? Unpossible.

    Chinese Government Urges Dam Operators at Maximum Capacity to Hold Back the Flood
    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/08/23/china-three-gorges-dam-bracing-for-more-flooding/

    Authorities have ordered dam operators to try to hold back incoming flood water, as Chinese manufacturing and farming heartland cities in the Yangtze Delta are bracing for yet more severe flooding. The same order given by Chinese authorities in similar circumstances in 1975 led to the deaths of up to a quarter of a million people.

  51. It says that for immigrants—including people who immigrated here legally but are not U.S. citizens—being part of anything that authorities deem a gang will be grounds for deportation.

    It has said for a century that if you are part of anything the authorities deem fascist, communist, anti-constitutional, or immoral, you can be deported.

    Immigrants are guests in this country. Immigration is a privilege. It’s a privilege that can be withdrawn at any time. Immigrants should treat it as such. Until you are a citizen, don’t participate in political demonstrations, period. If you want to be politically active, do so in whatever country you came from.

  52. How did this “Antifa is not a real thing” idea ever gain any traction? That is so unconnected to reality that it beggars belief.

    This whole thing kicked off with an Antifa attack. The horrible, violent, evil white supremacists in Charlottesville, Virginia did not go out and just randomly start attacking people.

    That was Antifa. We all watched it live on TV. National news anchors even kept telling us that the white supremacists dressed in black were the ones going around violently attacking people. Then, after an hour or two they figured out that those were Antifa folks and they were on the media’s side. So they dropped those descriptions immediately. But we all saw it happen.

    Antifa isn’t terribly secretive about their objectives or tactics. They are are fairly open about being a marxist organization – rooted in a somewhat inscrutable ideology of anarcho-socialism. They openly plan violent confrontations. The media even reports on it – with typical upside-down language…. like “police are afraid violence will break out at the planned rally of the Oathkeepers” when what they mean is “Antifa says they are going to come and attack people at the rally. ”

    How someone who reports stories like that 50 times over the last 2 years can turn around and claim “there is no Antifa” with a straight face is beyond me, but all of the major networks have done exactly that.

    1. Antifa took its name and logo from German communists. Its gaslighting to say it just doesn’t exist.

      1. This could actually be the rare case where the term “Gaslighting” actually applies.

        There is no way that the media who keep repeating this nonsense actually believe it. They are the ones running the stories where you see the Antifa people in Antifa garb painting Antifa slogans on buildings and vehicles that they just destroyed.

        So maybe they do think they can just get everyone to believe that they are going insane.

    2. Trump said antifa is real, so it can’t be. Not only are they not real, but they’re on our side.

      /prog logic.

    3. How did this “Antifa is not a real thing” idea ever gain any traction?

      The same way the Russia collusion conspiracy, the mailbox conspiracy, the Trump is a racist meme, the global warming hysteria, the Coronavirus mask signalling, and how we were always at war with Eurasia gained traction. The party made it’s pronouncement and the loyalists followed.

      1. There is more truth to that analysis than there should ever be in a free society.

    4. Dude, even though Hitler laid out his thoughts in Mein Kempf, the naifs pretended he wasn’t serious. It was ignored. Imagine being someone who knew better trying to convince the hipster-doofuses at the time that Hitler was crazy.

      ‘Nazis are a myth’. Adler. Depraved and deranged idiots these people.

      Certain people and/or groups should be taken at face value.

    5. Antifa was big national news for 3 and a half years, the grass roots activists who led The Resistance to Orange Hitler, even if their tactics sometime crossed the line. And now we’re supposed to believe they are a figment of the right wing imagination.

  53. FYI, the sorting equipment being removed from the USPS is for magazines and packages, not envelopes.

    1. That must be why I’m still waiting for the last issue of Omni to show up.

      1. Dang! I miss that publication!

        Does anything remotely like Omni still exist? That may have been my 3rd magazine subscription, after National Geographic and Scientific American.

        1. Not that I know of. They tried to relaunch online a few years ago, but I don’t think it ever happened. I’d love to see something like Omni again.

          1. Elon Musk should buy it and bring it back. With a sign-up form in the back to go live on Mars.

    2. Still suspicious. As we all know, machinery never wears out or requires upgrading.

      1. So well demonstrated by the political machines in our major cities.

  54. Half of the keynote speakers at the convention will be Trump’s family. Has there ever been a political convention where half the speakers were the nominee’s family? This is bizarre just by itself.

    1. Who gives a fuck?

      1. No, he’s right. That’s odd.

        Of course the DNC keynotes were Obama, Obama’s wife, Biden and then a slate of 17 “keynote speakers” that included Biden’s kid, the Clintons, the Cuomo’s.

        On second thought.. I don’t think they can cast any stones after all.

        They even included Stacy Abrams on their “Governor’s Panel”

        1. For a supposedly democratic country with, theoretically, a pool ofmillions of people legally qualified to run for President, it is bizarre and troubling how dynastic our two major parties are.

          1. Think of the Kennedy’s , the Bush family and the Clintons. How many years of those people pulling the levers of power?

            1. They used to. I’m not sure how much anymore.

              The Kennedy’s are mostly dead Kennedy’s these days. Hillary Clinton would like to be influential still, but I’m not sure she is. The Obama’s still have a lot of influence.

              I am wondering if Chelsea Clinton and Michelle Obama are going to have political careers. And perhaps the scions of the Zuckerberg, Page and Brin families someday.

      2. It is pretty weird. But so is everything about Trump.

        1. Might have something to do with the fact that he can’t trust more than a handful of people outside his family.

          1. How Stalinesque. Maybe Trump should work on hiring the best people instead of a bunch of bottom feeders, foreign agents, and felons.

            1. It’s hard for him to get good people to work in his White House now, because he has trash talked too many people who used to work for him.

      3. Me. I like Trump but I don’t want to see the Trumps become another political dynasty. We have too many of those already, we don’t need any more.

    2. Clinton had Hillary, their daughter was to young
      Obama had Michelle and their kids were to young also and Like Carter not wanting Billy to speak is also why Clinton and Obama didn’t have relatives speak, it wouldn’t look good on them. this actually speaks well of Trumps family being able to speak inteligently.

  55. Joe Biden’s Campaign Apologizes to Anti-Semite Linda Sarsour in Pathetic Reversal
    https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2020/08/24/report-joe-bidens-campaign-apologies-to-anti-semite-linda-sarsour-tries-to-play-both-sides/
    But now, it appears the Biden campaign is trying to play both sides, publicly denouncing Sarsour for the plaudits while at the same time making backroom calls to assure she and her supporters that they don’t really mean it. Middle East Eye obtained a recording of this happening last night.

  56. For libertarians, it will be another reminder that days of the conservative-libertarian alliance is all but over.

    hahahahahahahaha stop, ENB you are actually retarded. I can all but guarantee you more libertarians will be voting Trump than Jorgensen because, among many other things, voting Trump is the better choice for liberty.

    You are a sad individual who needs to stop associating with anything involving libertarianism. Thanks for the laugh tho.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0&pbjreload=101

    ‘May god have mercy on your soul.’

  57. “Antifa is violet extremists”, I wonder if Q told the Republican this?

    1. Moderation4ever reveals himself as a violent extremist.

  58. “…promises just as much frustration with an added dose of surrealism…”

    Hard-hitting ‘journalism’ right there; care to add, oh, I don’t know, some evidence?

  59. “Treating them all as terrorists is akin to slapping the label on anyone who labels their politics “anarchist” or “libertarian.”

    They leave us alone because hardly anyone has even heard of us.

    “Trump says he’ll ban private American companies from hiring “foreign workers” instead of American citizens.”

    Except for the golf course, hotel, and construction industries. We need them there.

    “He’ll build a national internet network.”

    I thought Al Gore already did that.

    “It promises to revitalize the War on Terror by treating “drive-by shootings as acts of Domestic Terrorism.”

    As opposed to walk-by shootings.

    “And he’ll make all critical medical supplies have to be manufactured in the U.S.”

    (Checks medicine cabinet) Walgreens, hi, I need a refill.

    “First Lady Melania Trump will speak Tuesday, “

    Can’t wait. I actually like her. She is a very nice and intelligent lady. Smart enough to know that speech making is not her thing. Ivanka is pretty good. I recall her speech at the last convention. “I remember playing with legos under my fathers desk while he worked. Dreaming that someday, I too could become a lego.”

    So where are the conservatives of yore? Well there are only so many Chinese yachts. I would check there.

    1. “They leave us alone because hardly anyone has even heard of us.”

      I dunno, for a bunch of people who haven’t ever been in power, we libertarians get blamed for a lot of things.

      “He’ll build a national internet network.”

      Since we already have the Internet, all I can think is that “national internet network” must be code for building a great national firewall, like China has.

      “So where are the conservatives of yore?”

      George Will, for one, about as conservative as one can get, said what he thinks about Trump, and now I am told he is a traitor to the conservative cause.

    2. Yeah, one of the things Melania did (or didn’t do) right off the bat that impressed me was staying in New York so that Barron could finish his school year.

      She acted like a real mom who cares about her kid.

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  61. “But antifa is a loose, decentralized network of interconnected activists, many of whom “joined” antifa just by applying the word to themselves. ”

    Complete coincidence they all show up at the same place and time with the same uniform and weapons arriving on buses with lawyers on call. Keep telling yourself these lies.

    1. And when those antifa show up and commit acts of violence, go ahead and arrest each *individual* and charge him or her with the crime you can prove that *individual* committed.

      However, the “antifa member” who has done nothing more than like antifa tweets from his bedroom or sulk in the corner of a coffee shop wearing black clothes should not be subjected to guilt by association.

      Treating people as individuals rather than group members is fundamental to liberty.

      1. However, the “antifa member” who has done nothing more than like antifa tweets from his bedroom or sulk in the corner of a coffee shop wearing black clothes should not be subjected to guilt by association.

        Guilt by association or “guilt” by association. If others mock you for your panty-waisted online participation in anarcho-socialist larping and you feel guilty, the guilt is your fault, not theirs.

        Treating people as individuals rather than group members is fundamental to liberty.

        No it’s not.

        1. “ If others mock you…”

          That’s fine. The context was talking about criminality.

          “No it’s not.”

          Please say more.

          1. Treating people as individuals rather than group members is fundamental to liberty.

            I actual believe that is a correct statement, now demonstrate that you do.

            A national mask mandate would be…

            Public healthcare is…

            People who feel compelled to vote for Trump because they live in a swing state and sincerely believe another term under Trump would do less damage to their liberty than a term under Biden are…

            1. “People who feel compelled to vote for Trump because they live in a swing state and sincerely believe another term under Trump would do less damage to their liberty than a term under Biden are…”

              Slaves of a broken corrupt political system. Afraid to stand up for something they believe in.

              1. Slave? Not even to protect my family. They mean more to me than leave them that legacy.

                Afraid? Not in the slightest. I see a coalition. Trump and everyone that understands that the Green Marxist Deal moves forward under Biden.

            2. Not answering for WP

              But those are easy.

              “A national mask mandate would be…”

              Ineffective in the US. You simply cannot enforce it and it is a weak protection.

              “Public healthcare is…”

              Essential just as EMS and fire departments are. Public health measures when properly used, TB, Polio, Cholera, Smallpox, the list goes on. All things you do not even need to think about.

            3. – A national mask mandate would be a heavy-handed, unnecessary, overkill way to try to slow the spread of COVID-19 that doesn’t take into consideration Federalism, localism, or individual considerations. Depending on what such a mandate’s actual language says, it could conceivably give a nod to individual or local exceptions, but right now it’s just a sound bite from a Joe Biden speech.
              – Public healthcare is a wasteful and ineffective way of providing healthcare. I’m not sure it violates individualism, though. It would depend on the details. I’m assuming here you are talking about “socialized healthcare”, not public health measures like Echospinner refers to below, like disease control.
              – People … are looking out for their own individual interest, which is fine. However, they are also buying into, and therefore propping up the continued existence of, the two-party system that has put our country into a tail spin heading into more and more divisive and moronic territory.

              1. However, they are also buying into, and therefore propping up the continued existence of, the two-party system

                You talk about individuals, but you don’t treat anyone like they are. Last election, Trump was a 3rd party. The Republicans did not want him and treated him like a joke. But he needed a party that would get him on the ballot, so he hijacked theirs and then went full retard on them. He beat the actual Republican dynasty first, then Clinton. But the first was actually the more impressive feat.

                Yet, you continue with the ‘herpes-DeRp “2 parties” I’m not Jeffy’ line. Fuck you. Trump has not made me less free. I know Biden will. Day 1. He promised.

                1. You are complaining about my not treating people like individuals, but then in the same comment you return to the trope of implying that I am the same person as chemjeff, just because we sometimes say similar things.

      2. people who associate voluntarily with an activist organization like Antifa that condones and promotes violence should not by subjected to guilt by association?

        Now do al Qaeda.

        1. OK, let’s make up some hypothetical London Muslim teenager who starts going around saying he likes al Qaeda. And that’s it, just talk. It’s reprehensible, but it’s free speech, and he should not be rounded up and arrested.

          If you are talking about using guilt by association to say you don’t approve of that teenager’s behavior, you aren’t using guilt by association when you do that. You are criticizing him for something he is actually doing.

          If you go around accusing that teenager of killing people. He hasn’t. You are using guilt by association.

          1. Anti-fa is not just talking. Giving aid or cover to those who you know are committing crimes is a crime, just like donating money to al Qaeda is a crime whether you participate in an attack or not.

            It’s called a conspiracy. Not all are hypothetical.

            1. Are we talking about donating money now? Donating money to an organization that promotes violence would be sharing in that organization’s guilt. But that’s not guilt by association, that’s direct involvement.

              1. Sigh. You just can’t argue honestly. Go play with yourself somewhere else.

      3. “Treating people as individuals……”

        Would render the riots, protests, and all identity politics grievances completely nonsensical.

    2. Surely you’re not suggesting that being armed during protest is somehow an indication of a threat of violence.

    3. I’m pretty sure that they don’t all show up at the same place. The ones who show up show up.
      That there are organized Antifa groups doing these things does not mean that everyone calling themselves “Antifa” is. It’s definitely dumb to pretend that there aren’t Antifa groups deliberately instigating violence. It’s also dumb to assume that there is a monolithic organization called “Antifa” that organizes all of these things.

      1. It’s also dumb to assume that there is a monolithic organization called “Antifa” that organizes all of these things.

        Which is beside the point. The Weather Underground and FALN weren’t “monolithic” organizations, either, they were a loose collection of terrorist cells that organized anarchic violence. Not coincidentally, the National Lawyers Guild has been associated with providing bail, defense, and even safe houses for all of these people.

        And claiming that these activities aren’t being “organized” is thoroughly disingenuous. These are well-coordinated actions, employing defensive counter-measures and logistics for each one. Someone is manufacturing all those shields every day, for instance.

        Designating Antifa as a terrorist group is perfectly consistent with how a government targets a revolutionary subversive group.

        1. So presumably you’re focusing on Antifa, a middling to nonexistent source of violence, because many of the rightwing groups that do commit violence are already treated as terrorist organizations by law enforcement?

          1. So presumably you’re focusing on Antifa, a middling to nonexistent source of violence

            Still the mendacious, lying sack of shit you always were. I hope you choke on your extra-absorbent face diaper.

            1. Yeah well facts are what they are. Maybe stop getting them from wombat-haired Trump propagandists.

              1. You wouldn’t know a fact if it walked up and bit you in the ass. You’re by far the most ignorant person on these forums (excluding that Holocaust denier dude, but he’s more of a chimp than a person).

          2. So presumably you’re focusing on Antifa, a middling to nonexistent source of violence,

            Stop lying.

            because many of the rightwing groups that do commit violence

            It’s not red enclaves burning, so I don’t know what you’re whining about here.

            1. Just black churches. You’d think they’d get new material.

              1. Maybe black people should stop setting their own churches on fire.

              2. More goalpost moving, point ignoring bullshit, Tony, and I’m sure you know it. Doesn’t it make you feel dirty posting shit like that?

  62. I think this article was written by Mitt Romney and Nancy Pelosi.

    1. ENB is their love child.

      1. (I just wanted to put that image in everyone’s head.)

  63. You can’t have liberty until you crush your ideological enemies. Since asking people one by one is hard, isn’t it easier to round them up based on associations and deny their votes based on average skin color? What’s unlibertarian about any of this totally escapes me.

    1. Is this in response to mad.casual’s comment:

      https://reason.com/2020/08/24/the-2020-republican-convention-doesnt-have-a-platform-it-has-trumps-pet-peeves/#comment-8419898

      I’m really curious what he is talking about when he says, “No it’s not”, in response to my assertion: “Treating people as individuals rather than group members is fundamental to liberty.”

    2. Keeping in mind that antifa’s guiding philosophy gives them license to use violence against those they identify as “fascist”, given their rather broad and idiosyncratic definition of who qualifies as a fascist.

      1. Of course no politicians give tacit support to them, which can’t be said for the various neo-Nazi iterations that Trump thinks are good people because they flatter his ego.

    3. You can’t have liberty until you crush your ideological enemies

      When my ideological enemies would use liberty as a cudgel to exercise power over me, I’m in no way obligated to acquiesce to their appeals. They are inherent bad-faith actors with no principles and no shame other than their own lust for power. Violent resistance to them is an act of self-preservation.

      1. This as the state cracks down on political dissenters and openly says that’s what it’s doing and its motive is to instill fear.

        Keep supporting the glorious state comrade. For liberty. I wonder if the real libertarians, rather than the common Republican trash who have co-opted the label, are mad about that.

        1. This as the state cracks down on political dissenters

          LOL, if only. If you think this is cracking down, you’re going to LOVE it if Trump actually gets re-elected.

          1. Where are the nonpsychotics who jack off to fever dreams of tyrannizing people among libertarians I can talk to?

            1. Not among your associates, that’s for sure.

  64. iden to ABC’s David Muir on raising taxes: ‘No new taxes’ for anyone making less than $400,000

    “I will raise taxes for anybody making over $400,000,” Biden told Muir, adding, “no new taxes” would be raised for anyone making under $400,000.

    OK, so voting for Joe is not in my best interest.

    1. The burning cinder of what remains of civilization will have very low tax rates.

      1. If something destroys civilization, it will most likely be too much government, not too little.

        1. Pandemics are known to destroy civilizations.

          1. You’re thinking of plagues. Like communism

            1. You’re thinking of authoritarian planned states, like Trumpism.

            1. Only because the small government has put the boot of state down on Antifa, but it was close.

              1. I thought it was all due to the USPS.

  65. >>The Republican Party has no new official platform for 2020.

    the Republican Party fucking blows. you should stop conflating T and GOP

  66. A Very Trumpian Agenda

    The Republican Party has no new official platform for 2020. Instead, the Republican National Committee is pledging to “enthusiastically support the President’s America-first agenda” and “will adjourn without adopting a new platform until the 2024 Republican National Convention.”

    Yeah, looks like the GOP finally got tired of sabotaging themselves by kissing Democrat arse and ‘compromising’ (by giving away the farm) at every opportunity leading them to throw themselves at Trump over and over and over trying to topple him.

    Turns out Trump was stronger than the sea.

    1. I think you misread it.

      Trump has his own agenda. The GOP, what is left of it, has another. The party is not going to even discuss it until the last possible year that Trump is in power.

      Does not sound like a ringing endorsement to me.

  67. OMG, a sitting President gets to have input into his party’s platform! Unheard of! What is the world coming to! Hand out the paper bags to the hyperventilating ‘journalists’! So Trump’s views are nothing but pet peeves, whereas your little temper tantrums are highly sophisticated journalism. Yeah, got it. Your Silicon Valley overlords are pleased — you win a cookie.

    This comment not approved by Silicon Valley brain slugs.

    1. A party’s platform, admittedly usually thrown away once a party wins the election, traditionally has more details than a list of bullet points. So, settings aside whether the platform came from the President or not, it is PowerPoint-ized dumbing down of American politics.

  68. Trump isn’t leading a blatant ostracizing of anybody. The Republican base had it up to there necks with the establishment and revolted. The establishment took their ball and gave it to Hillary, then Biden.

    1. Are you suggesting that the people who occupy the White House and every other federal government agency aren’t the establishment?

    2. Republicans, the party that currently occupies the White House, are not part of the establishment?

      1. Yes, people like Trump, Gingrich and Reagan, somewhat, were not establishment Republicans. They were outsiders or fringe that saw their opportunity and took it. They got pushback from the insiders. Eisenhower was not establishment (R) either. Anyone in the white house or heading agencies are transitory, the bureaucracy is permanent and congress d or r cedes more authority to them then they do to the executive.

        1. It’s always a joy to be present to witness when words are defined completely out of existence.

          1. Btw Obama wasn’t an establishment dem either.

            1. I don’t think “establishment” really means anything, especially if it doesn’t include senators and governors.

              1. ‘I do not think that means what you think it means’ is not going to work for you this time, Tony, although I am sure it is cute in person when you do the accent.

                There is a clear link between the words ‘establishment’ and ‘established’. A first term senator is in no way established, and so not part of the establishment. Those in the Senate who are in their 2nd or 3rd term after 10-20 years in the House or are still in the house after 25 years are establishment. So are the entrenched bureaucrats who have been making their way up the chain for 30-40 years along with the lobbyists for corporations that have been petitioning for the last 50-100 years. Get it? ESTABLISH(ED)MENT.

                1. Trump has been in the White House for nearly four years. At what year does a President qualify as part of the establishment?

                  Mitch McConnell, his man in the Senate, has been there since 1985.

                  Bill Barr: CIA from 1973 – 1977, a year in the Reagan white house in the 1980s, AG from 1991 – 1993, other Justice Department through 1994, and AG again 2019 – 2020.

                  Mike Pence: House, 2001 – 2013; Gov. of Indiana, 2013 – 2017; Vice President 2017 – present

                  1. You’re just really not that bright.
                    It’s ok – you can commiserate with Jeff and eunuch and, sometimes, Tony (even though he’s much more intelligent than you, if typically psychotic)

                2. And that’s a bad thing, right? Should I be worried that the free market people think lack of experience and connections make for better leaders?

          2. Haha. Yeah. Like “the middling to nonexistent violence of antifa…..”

            That one cracks me up.

  69. Reality Check “First and foremost, Hitler saw the State as the ideal form of social organization; managed by people dedicated to making it finer and stronger. Wrong! He failed totally to get his premise right, i.e., that individual humans each own themselves, and should interact only when and how each wishes to do so – in what we call the “market.” This fundamental error he shares with all who favor the continuing existence of government. Thus, at root, every politician is a Nazi.” From: http://strike-the-root.com/monster-in-making

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