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Bari Weiss Resigns From The New York Times, Alleging That 'Self-Censorship Has Become the Norm'

With the twin resignations of Weiss and New York columnist Andrew Sullivan, elite journalism's eight-week nervous breakdown shows no signs of abating.

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Bari Weiss, one of the most polarizing journalists in the country, has resigned from the opinion section of The New York Times, citing a "hostile work environment" and an institutional yielding to an increasingly extreme ideological "orthodoxy."

"The truth is that intellectual curiosity—let alone risk-taking—is now a liability at The Times," Weiss wrote in a scorching resignation letter self-published Tuesday morning. "Why edit something challenging to our readers, or write something bold only to go through the numbing process of making it ideologically kosher, when we can assure ourselves of job security (and clicks) by publishing our 4000th op-ed arguing that Donald Trump is a unique danger to the country and the world? And so self-censorship has become the norm."

This is the latest development in a remarkably turbulent and potentially far-reaching eight-week period within America's leading liberal institutions. Beginning with the videotaped police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis in late May, then the subsequent protests, riots and crackdowns, the country's newspapers and universities and cultural organizations have experienced social media-fueled waves of internal revolts and leadership changes, frequently though not solely over questions of race.

One main fault-line, illustrated most starkly in the opposing open letters published last week about free speech and cancel culture (the first of which, in Harper's Magazine, was signed by Weiss and 152 others, including 15 Reason contributors), is the divide between those journalists and academics who feel like they are defending the very foundations of liberalism, and those who feel like they are chipping away at the institutions of systemic prejudice. To witness the two sides talking angrily past one another, open up your Twitter feed.

In Weiss's telling, the Times is retreating from the ethic of journalistic open inquiry and pluralistic debate, replacing it with a pre-baked notion of what readers ought to think.

"The lessons that ought to have followed the [2016 presidential] election—lessons about the importance of understanding other Americans, the necessity of resisting tribalism, and the centrality of the free exchange of ideas to a democratic society—have not been learned," she charged. "Instead, a new consensus has emerged in the press, but perhaps especially at this paper: that truth isn't a process of collective discovery, but an orthodoxy already known to an enlightened few whose job is to inform everyone else….[T]he paper itself has increasingly become a kind of performance space. Stories are chosen and told in a way to satisfy the narrowest of audiences, rather than to allow a curious public to read about the world and then draw their own conclusions. I was always taught that journalists were charged with writing the first rough draft of history. Now, history itself is one more ephemeral thing molded to fit the needs of a predetermined narrative."

That last sentence in particular is surely a reference to the paper's controversial 1619 Project, helmed by Pulitzer-winner Nikole Hannah-Jones, that seeks "to reframe American history, making explicit how slavery is the foundation on which this country is built." Hannah-Jones, who spearheaded the intentionally publicized internal revolt last month that resulted in the resignation of Opinion Editor James Bennett, has been a longtime public critic of Weiss.

"My own forays into Wrongthink have made me the subject of constant bullying by colleagues who disagree with my views," Weiss wrote, at the beginning of a three-paragraph section that carries the distinct whiff of both drama and potential legal action. "They have called me a Nazi and a racist; I have learned to brush off comments about how I'm 'writing about the Jews again.' Several colleagues perceived to be friendly with me were badgered by coworkers. My work and my character are openly demeaned on company-wide Slack channels where masthead editors regularly weigh in. There, some coworkers insist I need to be rooted out if this company is to be a truly 'inclusive' one, while others post ax emojis next to my name. Still other New York Times employees publicly smear me as a liar and a bigot on Twitter with no fear that harassing me will be met with appropriate action. They never are."

It is both easy and appropriate to be mostly irritated by the overhyped internal personnel battles of elite coastal institutions—including at New York magazine, which today lost star columnist Andrew Sullivan a few weeks after having spiked one of his pieces. In a country beset by an 11.1 percent unemployment rate, 139,000 coronavirus deaths, massive economic uncertainty, and the mental degradations of extended familial quarantine, it's hard to get exercised about a well-paid writer/editor noisily walking away from her job.

I have zero doubt that Bari Weiss (who is a friend), will not just land on her feet, but probably find herself at or near the center of a new media grouping of some kind. "As places like The Times and other once-great journalistic institutions betray their standards and lose sight of their principles," she wrote, almost teasingly, "Americans still hunger for news that is accurate, opinions that are vital, and debate that is sincere."

But even if you don't care about the ongoing nervous breakdown of the media, that doesn't mean the breakdown doesn't care about you. The New York Times, for better and worse, has been the go-to model for the country's other newspapers for at least the past half-century; what happens on 8th Avenue definitely does not stay on 8th Avenue. Basic media literacy suggests paying attention when an entire industry that contributes to the way we interpret the world announces loudly that it is rethinking its basic orientation.

More immediately, the name-and-shame defenestrations of the past two months have long since jumped the banks from media/academia to the more prosaic corners of the economy. "Showing up for work as a centrist at an American newspaper," Weiss observed, "should not require bravery." Nor should it at a restaurant or software company, but there we might well be going.

Bonus links: In January 2018, Weiss came on The Fifth Column podcast to talk about, among other things, how she left The Wall Street Journal editorial page after it became too pro-Trump. And in July of that year, Nick Gillespie interviewed her for the Reason Podcast.

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  1. Why doesn’t reason.con (no pun!) listen to Weiss??

    1. They lack the same courage as the majority of writers at the NYT.

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    2. You know who else didn’t listen to Reason?

      1. The pirate Bruce Lee from Snow Crash?

        1. +1 for referencing this work of genius.

      2. People who think Deep dish is pizza?

        1. Deep dish is the only true pizza!

      3. Nicole Brown Simpson??

  2. Editors used to run the newsroom. Now they fear their reporters and let them run it.

    Come back, Walter Burns, wherever you are.

    1. That was prior to the business model of pumping out content that Huffpost created.

    2. Until these Milennial and Zoomer woketards suffer real, actual consequences for acting like little shitbirds, the only lesson they’ve learned is that if they scream loud enough and relentlessly bully people like middle-schoolers, they’ll get their way.

      Stand up to these fuckers. Tell them to fuck off. Their whole ideology is a violation of the NAP. The woke left are a social and political infection, and they don’t deserve the respect one accords a fellow human being.

      1. The first time a business just fires the little bastards, a lot of this shit will stop.

        1. That would have been the appropriate response. Kid comes into the room demanding the firing of someone who spoke something, and you tell them “Speaking is why we are at this newspaper. If you are arguing against people speaking, you don’t belong at this paper.”

          Unfortunately, I get the sense that people inside the times have been using this mob rage to architect their own personal power grabs.

          1. I get the feeling this is coming down from the top. First at colleges, now at corporations. Recently Unilever and Coca-Cola announced a boycott of social media advertising demanding they they remove the “hate” speech. They don’t mean the baying twitter mobs. I never understood how and why corporations are investing for ads in Facebook or Twitter, I’ve never seen any ads. I’m led to believe it’s just for influence and they are feeling bold enough now to throw their weight$ around.

            No one gave a shit what anyone said or showed on social media until Trump was elected.

            1. Good call.

              Of note, the Redskins name change was prompted by a unified movement of their sponsors, most significantly FedEx (who has the stadium name) and Nike, to threaten to pull funds if the name wasn’t dropped.
              Coincident outrage, totes spontaneous and spurred by the zeitgeist?
              Lol
              Not quite.
              Indeed, it was collusion – organized by a foreign power: a SJW PAC. Not a fellow business, not participating in football or making any contribution to sports.

              And what’s a SJWPAC offering? Not customers, not products, just narrative. They sell trending topics and moral indignation.
              These are the real meme masters.

              Trending topics makes sense, that’s straightforward marketing and product focused. How does moral righteous indignation come into play? What are the companies getting out of it? Does SJWPAC really have the firepower to significantly damage Pepsi or Bank of America’s bottom line?
              Simple extortion isn’t a rational answer. Corporate America is great at telling the public to “fuck off”. This is the purpose of bureaucracy, and customers keep putting up with the routine.
              And if nothing else, look at Goya. They’re CEO told the villagers to suck it up. Of course, he did that as an individual. His Brand has grown.

              So what’s the selling point?

              1. And another thing: it’s all a little incestuous social club. A small group of people at the top of Pepsi, BoA, Nike, FedEx, the NYT, Twitter, NBC, and of course SJWPAC who all know each other and friends. They’re a circle of people with similar stations… and similar interests (even as nominal competitors).

                Who is rising to these positions, and how are they getting there?
                People who play the system best will arise in any system.
                Look to our nobles and then think about what they must be good at to rise in our system.
                What does that reveal?

                1. “Systemic racism” is a brilliant bit of projection, but it works.
                  What does it emphasize?
                  Brand is primary.

                  Virtue is access to power, and signaling is a means to experience it.
                  But what is virtue?
                  An important question.

                  1. *experience [power] vicariously

                    Fitting for the virtual age

                  2. And from the other side there’s victimhood which is the biggest privilege anyone can have today. It ranks up there with caviar and yachts. This is why so many celebs are faking their own anti-black or anti-gay attacks. It gives them a sense of purpose and pride. It also relieves them a guilt knowing they have it all. Victimhood gives them just a bit more–righteousness.

        2. Some workers at Ford complained about the company making cars for cops, and Ford told those workers to go pound sand. That’s the right attitude. Unfortunately, for this to work you need the people in charge to have a backbone, and vertebrae are in short supply right now.

        3. So… they should be canceled for their opinions.

          1. They should be canceled because they’re a social virus.

      2. The short answer is that none of them actually seek or care about genuine respect. They seek power, and the fear emanates from that and satisfactorily emulates respect. People who respect you will still respectfully disagree and expect respect in return. People who fear you will do none of that. This is a lesson well understood by every tyrant… from the sweatshop manager all the way to tyrant kings and dictators for life.

        1. And, the last public sector boss I had who is still there, lining her own pockets, ensuring her future retirement and making up rules that suit her purposes she goes along. With complete support from ignorant, local, City Council members who are appointed as board members to this JPA.

        2. That’s because ford is funding the BLM you prog boot licking ass fuck.

        3. I need to reread Machiavelli

          The political is personal
          The personal is political

      3. Yeh, I don’t get what they’re so afraid of.

        Scared of a soy boy in skinny jeans, manicured beard and squiggly tattoos and a girl with hot pink hair, a nose ring who slurps Starbucks?

        Get real.

        1. It’s something to think about.
          It can’t be just fear and avoidance.
          There’s something they’re getting out of these appearances

      4. Well said! But they’re more like a cancer than an infection.

    3. “Editors used to run the newsroom.”

      And presidents used to run colleges.

      Let them fucking burn, I say. They brought it upon themselves. Time for creative destruction to produce something new.

    4. No, now they fear Twitter when they run accurate headlines like ” Trump calls for unity”

      1. Maggie Haberman retweeted an article bitching that Trump said “most people shot by cops are white” with some comment about Trump pandering to his racist, drone-like base.

        “[Deplorables] will believe him because Trump voters are sheep”

        But it’s not Trump we believe – it’s the same statistics the haters have.

        “But the pRoPoRtIoN oF the pOpUlATion!”

        More whites are shot. It’s simply true. A fact.
        But they are writing articles AS IF he was lying.
        LITERALLY psychotic

        1. Hence they are on social media embracing a fantasy, conversing as if it were really.
          Enough instances of that… at some point your perspective becomes fictional

          Really stresses out the psyche

    5. I would just fire a bunch of them at once and promote some interns. I doubt anyone would notice a difference in quality, given the regrettable state of modern journalism.

      Seriously, do these punks think there are a bunch of jobs comparable to their NYT gig? I suspect that’s doubtful. Maybe sending a bunch of them to the unemployment line would strike fear into the rest.

      Gleefully cackling while announcing the terminations would be icing on the cake

  3. Clearly she’s a privileged racist bigot anti Semite misogynistic nazi spouse abusing closet conservative. Good riddance.

    More space for Paul krugman.

    1. They will come for Krugman. I’m sure at some point he’s expressed some small reservations about single party rule and complete central control economies. Robyn DeAngelo told me that dissent from whatever the activists want is proof of white supremacy. Arguing that it isn’t makes you a full fledged Satan-worshiping, trans dead-naming Nazi.

      1. During the 1980s and 90s, Krugman was a centrist economist. He only went insane in the 00s. There are a ton of things he wrote back before he went nuts that will get him canceled.

        1. Enron will get Krugman cancelled.

          1. Nah, he’s too tricky.
            He’ll convert to Ismāīlism and change his name to Parvez Khuraymahn. Then any cancelling will be automatically racist.

        2. He didn’t go nuts. He took a prestigious job as head economic propagandist for the DNC.

        3. Going through Krugman’s archives to get him ‘#cancelled’ would be a fun hobby.

          Who wants in on that action?

      2. No. He believes they just haven’t had the right central planner in charge – himself.

      3. And Maureen Dowd and Thomas Friedman….

  4. It would be great if influential writers and publications would stop directing readers to Twitter. It’s poison and we all need to get it out of our lives.

    1. Twitter goes away and something else will replace it. We need that dopamine hit from a good social media dunk. It’s in our genes. We can’t resist it.

      1. Bingo. Twitter is a symptom, not the disease.

        1. Nope. It’s a vector.

      2. Yes, something will replace it. In the meantime, the players are shuffled and the flow temporarily interrupted, and that’s not a bad thing. At least Reason hasn’t implemented “likes” yet. When that happens, it also becomes a sewer pit.

    2. Strongly agree; Twitter is a sewer.

      1. So glad to hear that I’m not the only one who finds Twitter a useless echo chamber.

        I only signed up so that I could hear directly from my utility company when they planned PSPS as early as possible so I could prepare. But, there is all kinds of other crap thrown my way as well. It’s all garbage. Just shadow boxing by people who would never utter such trash in a face-to-face setting.

        1. Have you seen riot, I mean protest, videos?

      2. But the far left media love it (including most of the entire staff of Reason), and it’s the place where they tell each other (and the world) what it is that they really think and believe, which makes somewhat useful as a window. Here’s a good example:

        https://twitter.com/MattWelch/status/1102654202545913857

      3. So is all social media. Particularly, quora, Reddit and tik Tok

        1. 4chan is a public utility though.

    3. This article left out the best line from her resignation letter:

      “Twitter is not on the masthead of The New York Times. But Twitter has become its ultimate editor. As the ethics and mores of that platform have become those of the paper, the paper itself has increasingly become a kind of performance space. “

    4. The captain gets it. The Twitter mob represents a tiny fraction of the population but it’s hard to find any commentary out there that does not link to some asshole on Twitter and by doing so lending credibility to this destructive and malevolent outlet.

      1. You’re right…Twitter has roughly 45MM users. About 15% of the US population. They really do not represent America.

        1. Comprised largely of shrill, woke white women.

    5. Twitter is just a forum where everyone feels entitled speak
      Pros and cons

  5. This hot take from Welch is unsurprisingly tepid.

    1. Classic Welch. He likes his milk room temperature.

      1. And probably 1 percent. Edgy guy that he is.

  6. Does it take take someone that Welch cares about personally to help turn Reason back away from their sniveling SJW ass kissing? I understand that you want the publication to be a gateway to libertarian principles and part of that is echoing messages that may make some people on the left open to listening to you. However, thanks to staffers like Binion, Boehm, ENB and to a slightly lesser extent, Suderman, the whole publication has gone way too far in bowing to the farthest left Twitter mobs. They adopt their ever changing language and ceaselessly cede important fundamental foundational arguments to these lunatics. It’s all completely pointless. You may win a few on the fence Hilary voters, but you will not get a single purple-haired gender-fluid intersectional feminism major to your side (assuming any of these writers actually believe in any libertarian principles.) Why even try to appeal to them?

    What was left of the NYT was basically just handed over to the far left in a bloodless coup. They’re not going to stop once they’ve toppled all the easiest targets (apparently the head of the SF MOMA dresses in white sheets as part of his extracurricular activities, better hand over the operation to a true believing commie.) They will soon finish off the job that’s been started for them over the last few decades by taking complete control of public sector unions (as the story from this morning about the LA county teachers shows) and any other media and cultural institutions that might be teetering. If anyone at this publication has any of the ideals they espouse, they might want to start digging in their heels a little more and pushing back against all this illiberal non-sense instead of playing all-time defense.

    If you though that you were losing the culture war before, you ain’t seen nothing yet.

    1. Never going to happen. The reason staff are basically center leftists who don’t like taxes but like pot. The entire center left has spent the last 50 years or more with the absolute certainty that they were on the right side of a struggle against the forces of intolerance and bigotry on the right. Standing up to the Marxist animals who are devouring them requires admitting that the Right isn’t as bad as the left and were not the forces of intolerance and bigotry but were just reasonable people who had reasonable differences of opinion.

      The center left has way too much of their personal identity and self worth wrapped up in their politics to ever do that. They will stand down and roll over to the animals and rationalize it by saying “but the right was worse”.

      1. Damn, John. Spot-on.

        1. Entirely
          And well written

      2. They will stand down and roll over to the animals and rationalize it by saying “but the right was worse”.

        They might realize their mistake about the time they’re stuffed into cattle cars on their way to the re-education camps, but of course by then it will be too late.

        1. It’s kinda like making friends with the mean girl by co-poking at the unpopular one. The mean girl still doesn’t like you and you will still be her bitch… just not today.

          1. That’s exactly what happened when FDR tried to gain Stalin’s approval by making fun of Churchill

            WWII was won by fn Mean Girls*

            *it was won by The People and their systems. But both enterprising USA and communist USR were led by Mean Girls

      3. The reason staff are basically center leftists

        What an idiotic smear. Reason isn’t pushing the Universal Dole, or praising Obamacare, or endorsing punishment of thoughtcrime.

        Get your meds adjusted.

        -jcr

        1. Suderman praised Obamacare. Stop yelling and pay attention

          1. Theyve also pushed UBI.

            1. “Here Is the Libertarian Case for Bernie Sanders, in One Chart”

              https://reason.com/2016/02/25/the-libertarian-case-for-bernie-sanders/

              1. choice Jeffy from that thread:

                Cytotoxic
                February.25.2016 at 3:57 pm
                I’m warming up to Biden. Too dumb to do much harm.

      4. Everyone today has way too much of their personal identity and self worth wrapped up in their politics

        I blame the internet, where everyone is considered an “expert”. Just look at all the talking heads on this pandemic.

    2. However, thanks to staffers like Binion, Boehm, ENB and to a slightly lesser extent, Suderman, the whole publication has gone way too far in bowing to the farthest left Twitter mobs.

      Don’t forget the king of ‘to-be-sure’ism, Robby Soave.

      1. Robby is actually moving in the right direction. He has been including fewer weasely caveats and has nearly abandoned the false-equivalency-as-charity approach. Compare his recent stuff with things from a few years ago.

        1. Heck, Robby is one of the main reasons to continue visiting the site. Some of his articles are a bit tepid (and he’s also said things like, “Hey, let’s hear Julie Swetnick out on her rape-gang theory,”) but he sometimes finds things other people overlook and calls them out.

      2. Robby has actually done some really good work. He was the first reporter nationally to really challenge the Covington case and he was early to the “look how crazy campus behavior is getting” party. Sure he does some throat clearing, but he’s willing to say things that would be unpopular at DC journalist cocktail parties.

        The others I listed (ENB used to be better) do nothing but signal to the far left on all cultural issues and seem to have little to no understanding of basic libertarian principles like the NAP or private property rights. They can believe what they want to believe, but it seems to me that both the readership and themselves would be happier if they sold their bullshit at any of the 10,000 other online publications that are unapologetically woke.

      3. Robbie is now the token right-wing extremist in these heah parts. ENB probably has to apologize to her friends for working with that Papist Nazi.

    3. “Does it take take someone that Welch cares about personally to help turn Reason back away from their sniveling SJW ass kissing?
      Nope.

      ” I understand that you want the publication to be a gateway to libertarian principles and part of that is echoing messages that may make some people on the left open to listening to you”
      Unfortunately, like “free trade” with China, influence did not go the planned direction

      1. In my middle school youth group, we had this exercise where one person stood on a chair and tried to pull someone up. Then the other person tried to pull the person down.

        Which one was easier? Attempts to influence others frequently result in the same.

  7. Not exactly going down fighting, but at least she’s calling them out. I’ll take it.

    1. I think the references to Slack, Twitter and other crap was stated to forestall that possibility from NYT. Whether she sues or not is a different story.

  8. Ok, we get it. She’s your friend or whatever, but why should any of us care?

    1. but why should any of us care?

      You just described 90 percent of the non-porn internet.

    2. Right. Still New York; nobody else cares at all.

      1. If she would lose those glasses and those stupid earrings, she would be kind of cute for a lesbian.

        1. those stupid earrings

          I’m pretty sure she culturally appropriated those from the Gypsies.

          for a lesbian.

          lol

        2. Agreed, now where’s her sex tape?

        3. Concur…she can be pretty ‘hot’ when she wants to be. That is not sexist,. that is just an objective observation. 😉

    3. Because it’s coming to your job soon?

  9. I’m wondering how many at the newspaper dared to read that resignation letter. And how self-deluded would any of them that did have to be not to acknowledge the problem.

    1. And how self-deluded would any of them that did have to be not to acknowledge the problem.

      Your error here is in presuming that they consider it a “problem”.

      1. Yeah, they wanted her gone and they got it. If anything, they learned that their shitty behavior is productive towards their goals.

        Given that their REAL goal (whether they admit it or not) is to sell newspapers I’m not sure why they’re catering to a bunch of unemployed communists (sorry “anarchists”). Those people believe they’re entitled to a newspaper free of charge, expecting them to be long-term paying customers seems foolish.

        1. “I’m not sure why they’re catering to a bunch of unemployed communists (sorry “anarchists”).”

          Weiss says it right there in her letter. Everyone wants their Amen experience, and the NYT pretty much dominates that market. Sure, there is HuffPo, but by and large NYT is the place liberals love to click. The Times’ business model has no need for balance or nuance because they get enough money from commie-click-boi to not give a shit about the others.

          The funny thing here is that we are quickly getting into a situation where NYT’s competition isn’t Fox News or Breitbart. It is HuffPo and the Atlantic. It will be interesting to see what happens as those leftist rags try to eat each other.

          1. One wonders whether catering to unemployed communists and the rapid decline of the newspaper industry are correlated.

            I get that everyone wants their Amen experience, but if they aren’t willing to pay for it it’s kind of a moot point from a business perspective.

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              1. This sounds like that carpet cleaning cult who wouldn’t recruit George, but assimilated Mr. Wilhelm when George hired them to clean the Yankee offices so they’d recruit him

            2. So…

              What are they getting out of it?

          2. I’m old enough to remember when The Atlantic presented balanced arguments and thoughtful analysis. Sad to see the New York Times follow them into the abyss.

            1. I’d say even 5 years ago The Atlantic was still one of the best places to find interesting long form journalism. Sort of NPR in written form.
              They were never unbiased, but they were always thoughtful and reasoned as far as milquetoast neo-liberal sorts go.

              The Atlantic and NPR have nose dived into non-stop hyperbolic hysterics quicker than anyone.

              1. TDS is the real pandemic killing minds by the hundreds of thousands!

    2. Why bother to read something when they know someone that knows someone that told them it was a resignation letter?

    3. They view her ouster as a good start and her resignation letter as proof their newfound power. They have neither the desire nor the intent to defend truth and freedom, they’re on a mission to go to war for social “justice”.

    4. The collective self-delusion is the problem

  10. “…the divide between those journalists and academics who feel like they are defending the very foundations of liberalism, and those who feel like they are chipping away at the institutions of systemic prejudice.” Who “feel like”? Jesus fucking christ, “feel like”? You’re either “defending the very foundations of liberalism” or you aren’t. And considering the premise behind language like that, you aren’t. Twats can “feel like they’re chipping away at…systemic prejudice” all they want, but since there’s no such a thing as systemic prejudice in the US, they’re just touching themselves. “Feeling” that you’re doing something doesn’t make it real.

    1. Beat me to it, DE. Well said.

    2. but since there’s no such a thing as systemic prejudice in the US

      well….not where they think it is, anyway

      1. So true. Try being an Asian applying to top schools

    3. It does for small children. It takes years for them to learn otherwise. If they ever do.

    4. Well said, DE.

      They are dictating that all must submit to their fantasy.

  11. Wasn’t there a novel about 70 years ago that included a story line about what would happen if the publisher didn’t tow the woke lion? That author was remarkably prescient about any number things.

    1. These people read it and thought it was a how to manual.

    2. tow the lion
      Toe the line

      1. Idioms are so patriarchal.

      2. tow the lion
        Toe the line

        Been a sarc-phrase for years around here.

    3. Immigrants! They get the job done!!

  12. This is the latest development in a remarkably turbulent and potentially far-reaching eight-week period within America’s leading liberal institutions. Beginning with the videotaped police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis in late May, then the subsequent protests, riots and crackdowns, the country’s newspapers and universities and cultural organizations have experienced social media-fueled waves of internal revolts and leadership changes, frequently though not solely over questions of race.

    Meanwhile, out here in flyover country, people are going on with their lives and ignoring all that shit. Maybe you’d like to think about where “America’s leading liberal institutions” are leading you?

    1. I don’t think we are going to end up with Marxist America. I think we might however end up with liberal America going Marxist and being totally marginalized and irrelevant.

      1. Thank God most people are hypocrites. Follow the money…

      2. Rev hardest hit.

    2. A lot of people here say they are pro BLM but I think that’s because they are clueless about what BLM really is. I don’t know if that’s a good thing or bad thing.

      1. I think a lot of people want police reform and assume BLM will be an ally for police reform. They don’t realize that BLM is going to turn on them if they question handing over literally everything BLM asks for.

        1. If by “police reform” you’re going no deeper than “want cops to not be mean to black people” then sure.
          That’s the extent of what they think BLM is

      2. Oh, I don’t know.

        I find myself, my spouse and a lot of our normally non-racist white friends getting so fed up with the BLM, their supporters and particularly those that justify the rioting, theft, etc. that is associated with them turning into soft core bigots.

        Frankly, I have black friends, neighbors and even family members. They all seem to be BLM supporters and I say nothing. But, as much as I abhor it, I find I can’t look at them the same as I have in the past.

        I really, really just want to say, “Are you paying attention? Are you that stupid?”

        1. Are you? Trump supporters have killed more and destroyed more. Trump himself is ruining the country as we speak. They, you see, actually have some real power.

          1. Trump supporters have killed more and destroyed more.

            If only. All this riot nonsense would have been nipped in the bud in less than a week.

          2. “…Trump supporters have killed more and destroyed more. Trump himself is ruining the country as we speak…”

            You are simply not capable of recognizing facts, let alone posting them.

    3. There’s a lot more going on here than the demise of the NYT. We have large corporations supporting openly Marxist organizations and boycotting Facebook for allowing alternative voices to be heard. We saw a preview of this when they all caved to Jesse Jackson’s extortion racket but they probably saw some marketing value in appealing to their black customers however misguided. It’s hard to see any marketing appeal here to folks in flyover country, white black and otherwise, who are not too jazzed up about tearing down statues and burning up Wendy’s. I’m beginning to believe that everybody in charge these days is a true believer and cooler heads will not prevail.

      1. Maybe not true believer
        But adept at using true believers to get what they want.

        So what do they want?

        1. And let’s ask that question assuming that they are competent at something, getting what they want, even if they’re not very good at running a business…

  13. In Weiss’s telling, the Times is retreating from the ethic of journalistic open inquiry and pluralistic debate, replacing it with a pre-baked notion of what readers ought to think.

    I can’t remember a time in my life when the media didn’t think its job was to tell people what to think.

    1. Yeah, the funniest part of this whole piece is the assertion that media outlets like NYT are currently in the process of turning away from real journalism, when in fact they completely abandoned it long ago.

      1. They are finally abandoning all pretense

        1. Yes. Before Trump they maintained a pretense. They no longer bother.

    2. You beat me to this thought. Seriously, our public schools and universities don’t teach kids how to think; but WHAT to think. MSM is simply an extension of that same philosophy. Watching the NYT behave like a good little lap dog for the Obama administration and pretend there wasn’t anything negative to report, while acting like Trump is literally Hitler; seriously, they’ve all lost their minds.

      What Weiss is seeing is that, in her elitist mind, they’ve finally gone to far because SHE is affected. Isn’t it funny when far left wingers get eaten by their own? Or sad and pathetic?

      1. What Weiss is seeing is that, in her elitist mind, they’ve finally gone to far because SHE is affected.

        Yeah – given that she’s fairly prone to accusing people who disagree with her of antisemitism and claiming that antisemitism is a threat to her personal safety, she’s kind of part of the culture she’s criticizing.

        1. What I appreciate about what Ms. Weiss did was she ripped off the mask of all the ‘NYT Wokesters’. She has shown them for what they truly are. The NYT Progtards are the intellectual equivalent of smegma.

          Perhaps this was a case of being among them, but not truly of them.

        2. In weiss’ defence didn’t she survive a terrorist attack or two against her while on outing with her temple? She spoke to Michel Moynahan about the bus bomb, but I think there may have been a second.

  14. “…”Why edit something challenging to our readers, or write something bold only to go through the numbing process of making it ideologically kosher, when we can assure ourselves of job security (and clicks) by publishing our 4000th op-ed arguing that Donald Trump is a unique danger to the country and the world?…”

    Sounds like she writes for the SF Chron or Trudue’s lame comix.

    1. Sarcasm and disdain for anything conventional was a required trait of the so called “hippie” movement of the 1960s which was really an extension of the beatniks of the 1950s and is practiced today by the so called “hipsters”.

      What’s new is old and what’s old is new.

      It all gets so demoralizing after a while. Why not see life positively and leave the cynicism aside?

      1. It’s actually an embrace of convention – and fight for dominance

  15. It remains astounding to me that print journalism remains so steadfastly convinced of its own importance–despite almost half of the print journalism jobs in this country disappearing due to lack of interest over the last ten years. They’re like buggy whip manufacturers insisting on their own importance even as highways and parking lots are built all around them to accommodate the swarm of cars.

    Last week, I cited some facts:

    Newspaper, % of Readers retained as Subscribers after Introducing a Paywall

    The Dallas Morning News, <1%
    The New York Times, 4%
    The Seattle Times, <1%
    The Washington Post, 2%.

    Advertising rates are down.

    A full page print ad in the Los Angeles Times cost $50,000.

    A digital advertisement that reaches the circulation of the Los Angeles Times costs $7,000.

    A Google generated ad that appears on the Los Angeles Times by auction costs $20.

    Employment in newspaper newsrooms decreased by 45 percent from 2008 to 2017—and by 60 percent from 1990 to 2016.

    Check the facts here:

    https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2020/02/27/can-journalism-be-saved/

    Then the other day, I posted a story showing that everybody from Target to MTV refused to advertise around any news story on the web that included the terms “Black Lives Matter”, “George Floyd”, “Breonna Taylor”, “protests”, or “racism”–apparently because the typical opinions of journalists on these stories are so offensive to consumers that the advertisers are afraid to have those opinions associated with their brands. I’ll link the story below. Vice Media was complaining that they could only charge 57% of their normal rate on stories with those words in them because so few advertisers were willing to buy advertising within eye-shot of them.

    They can’t get subscribers to pay for the never ending editorial cycle, and they can’t get advertisers to pay for their shtick either. So where do they go?

    I’ll tell ya!

    This isn’t a tempest in a teacup. This is journalists screaming at each other as the industry circles the toilet bowl on its way down the drain.

    In 2016, the Gallup poll showing Americans’ opinion of the news media was an excellent counterindicator of their support for Donald Trump, when the poll showed that the news media was far less popular than either candidate just two weeks before the election. Do these journalists really not realize that they’re probably the most hated people in America? They’re certainly less popular than the police. Watching the industry destroy itself and journalists destroy each other this way is highly amusing. It’s like watching Celebrity Deathmatch only it’s real!

    1. Actually covid has done more to erase journalism jobs. Corporations owning half the nation’s newspapers is coming back to bite these frauds on their asses. Layoffs I’m happy to see.

      1. The streaming revolution means bad things for cable and broadcast news, too.

        An average girl doing an ASMR video from her dorm room gets more views than some of the opinion shows that regularly run on CNN and MSNBC. The only reason they remain financially viable is that if you’re a cable subscriber, you have to pay for CNN and MSNBC whether you actually watch their content or not.

        I switched to Philo, get nothing but internet from the cable company, and now I get all the cable channels I actually watch without CNN or MSNBC getting a dime from me. Even better, I hooked up an old fashioned antenna to my wifi router, and now I get ABC, CBS, and NBC without paying a dime. If they want money from me, they better put something on I’m willing to watch and get it through advertising.

        Anyway, the money we save by switching from cable to streaming comes straight out of the pockets of CNN, MSNBC and network news, and as the streaming revolution continues to gain steam, it drains those newsrooms of revenue they get regardless of whether we watch their awful news coverage. And the trend for them is likely to get even worse.

        And they keep acting like what they say matters!

        After moving behind a paywall, The New York Times has 3 million subscribers, and they’re considered wildly successful. 3 million subscribers is less than 1% of the American people! That’s not influential. That’s a failure to influence people. The average sitcom on one of the major broadcast networks has 3 million viewers. They’re about as influential as an average sitcom–not a really popular one, but an average sitcom.

        1. 3 million subscribers is less than 1% of the American people!

          I’d reckon 1.5-2 million of those are a combination of other journalists and corporate media accounts that “have” to subscribe.

          1. Libraries – public and university are probably a significant number as well.

        2. The key is that TV is passive.
          Subscription services require intent to use.

          Profits aren’t everything.
          Maybe they should be, but they obviously aren’t.
          The market we’re in isn’t what you imagine it to be

    2. Chinese $$ is all the media has left.

    3. “This is journalists screaming at each other as the industry circles the toilet bowl on its way down the drain.”

      I sincerely hope you are right; and they truly believe in and will scream out their enlightened opinions until the day they, and the mainstream media, die a pathetic and inglorious death.

      1. Well it’s a good sign to see a lesbian give hell to the left. As a gay man, I always saw the most radical fringes of the gay rights movement to be the lesbians.

        1. As a gay man myself, I’d have to say both we and the lesbians have now ceded that responsibility to the trans community. It appears that my opinion on free speech in 2020 doesn’t matter simply because I’m a white cis man, even though I’m a gay one who attended an anti-gay Christian school during an era when even the mainstream wasn’t very accepting let alone the religious orthodoxy.

          1. My wife and I were talking last week how odd it is that the Trans community essentially hijack pretty much every leftist cause. It was like as soon as gay rights became pretty much mainstream, everyone went to live their lives except the Trans who took the entire institution you made and weaponized it for their causes- men in sports, on demand surgical transition from child to adult, etc.

            I saw nasty and militant trans people silence critics in sports, young adult literature, sci fi, business, even the BLM manifesto talks about trans rights (as if any substantial fraction of the Black community felt these were super important to the cause of police brutality)…if you didn’t believe men should be taking the spots of women in sports, you were disrespecting the ENTIRE LGBTQ++ community.

            It was reminiscent of how quickly Lenin grabbed and consolidated power in 1917.

            1. It’s not trans, it’s leftists. I lived in Chicago for 15 years and I’ve seen what the radical fringe of the Democrat Party is capable of. Their community outreach centers are breeding grounds for community terrorism. And they make six figures from both the local and federal governments while doing it. It’s particularly a crime against the mostly black and confused kids who genuinely seek help, only to be used as henchmen, and fed drugs to keeps them complicit. You think I’m exaggerating?

              1. Douglas Murray recently said that everyone thought that young millennials were saddled with useless degrees in gender studies and wouldn’t be able to find a job. He notes the joke is on us, they did find jobs, they went into every HR and Health and Safety team in every corporation in the world.

                1. every HR and Health and Safety team in every corporation in the world. where skills are unnecessary.

            2. To be clear, I am not saying all trans people think this way obviously (I only have one friend who is trans and while she is definitely a liberal I also know she is not a fan of this cancel culture shit and finds it ridiculous), I’m just pointing out that it seems a growing trend on the radical left to say your opinion on LGBT issues is invalid unless you’re either trans or an LGBT person of color. Have you listened to Nick Gillespie’s recent podcast with Katie Herzog and Jessie Signal on this topic? Katie had a pretty useful explanation of it in that once gay marriage was made legal in all 50 states the advocacy groups for gay rights essentially had no more work that needed to be done, so they shifted their focus to the trans community and that’s now why it’s become commonplace for these groups to advocate the passing of hate crime bills and other civil rights legislation.

            3. Radicals need something to rebel against. That is all the Alphabets and BLM ( and the Greens) are

        2. Well it’s a good sign to see a lesbian give hell to the left.

          There’s a shit ton of that happening. Hardly a day doesn’t go by where my youtube feed doesn’t have a lesbian or other “unlikely” person walking away from the left.

    4. Forget defunding the cops.

      Defund the news!

    5. Craig Newmark gutted the legacy print media by eating their lunch w/r/t their classified ad revenues. Newmark’s mostly a leftard himself, but he unwittingly did us all a huge favor by giving these leftard cesspools a good hard shove towards the ash heap of history.

      -jcr

    6. One can only hope.

    7. Does it matter if The People buy the NYT if the CEOs of Pepsi and BoA do?

  16. Bari Weiss Resigns From The New York Times

    This took way too long, but I’m sure glad she’s out. Fuck that shitty paper.

  17. Can any sane person explain why we can’t count on people like those at the NYT to use government power, if they ever get it, the way they are using social power now? If not, then shut the fuck up about this being a ‘private business’.

  18. America’s leading liberal institutions.

    By “liberal” I assume you mean in the classical, philosophical sense, not the American political sense.

    If that’s the case, these institutions have become entirely illiberal.

    I’m not sure what institutions we’d still refer to as “liberal”. Maybe that’s why I’m spending more time listening to British media and thinkers than I am American ones.

  19. To witness the two sides talking angrily past one another,

    Sure that’s what’s happening. Welch is such a pussy.

    1. Watching the Evergreen Kerfuffle. Yeah, that was two sides talking past one another.

  20. Once again, the liberal press is being held up to a standard of perfection, while any standards at all applied to the right-wing media are met with “Don’t be silly” or “We’re just cheap entertainment!”

    FOX News might let a liberal speak on occasion. As long as he looks like a grease troll or is some screeching feminazi. But you have to make allowances for the special ed class.

    1. Tony, can you do anything besides engage in whataboutism? Maybe try another fallacy on for size.

      1. Maybe stop polluting your attention span with non-issues that exist mostly to distract you from the terrible job Republicans are doing at literally everything.

      2. Well, he’s got goal-post-moving, distraction, poisoning the well and offering non-sequiturs down pretty well.
        Oh, and outright lying.

    2. Once again we see there’s no fuck up on the left Tony won’t try to cover for.

      1. Once again not a single person is talking about daily rightwing propaganda taking up at least 50% of the media landscape. It’s just part of the milieu, I suppose.

        Meanwhile the NYT wasn’t Solomon-like in its handling of a new cultural moment. It’s TYRANNTY!!!

        1. Once again not a single person is talking about daily rightwing propaganda taking up at least 50% of the media landscape. It’s just part of the milieu, I suppose.

          50% of what media landscape?

          1. The landscape. It’s inclusive. But if we’re just talking about radio, it’s more like 100%.

            1. The landscape. It’s inclusive. But if we’re just talking about radio, it’s more like 100%.

              NPR and Democracy Now are right wing? It’s amazing how few facts are included in Tony’s worldview.

        2. Once again not a single person is talking about daily rightwing propaganda taking up at least 50% of the media landscape.

          This is probably because Fox has always had many more liberals than the left-media had conservatives. What’s changed is that now Fox has more liberals than the left -media has liberals.

          It’s revealing though that Tony thinks Fox should be held to a higher standard than the NYT.

          at least 50% of the media landscape

          50% of the audience, not 50% of the jobs.

        3. Wow. To say, of the current behavior of the children at the NYT, that it merely shows “the NYT wasn’t Solomon-like in its handling of a new cultural moment” represents such dizzying heights of euphemism that it might require a wholly different word!

          The only part of that sentence that has any truth in it at all, is where you put the letters “cult” together. IOW about an average % for you.

    3. No one with a working brain cell doesn’t know that Fox is biased. Of course it’s biased, but it’s been pointed out that the blade that bends against the wind…

      Tony, when you’re finally dragged in front of the firing squad will you then at least acknowledge there’s a problem here? Or should we just dismiss everything you say because you’re a white male?

      Jesus fucking Christ.

      1. Its devotees don’t know it’s biased. They think all the rest of journalism is biased. And academia, science, entertainment, Care Bears, etc. Only Tucker has the truth, because he tells it like it is to those nig… phone call, sorry.

        1. “Its devotees don’t know it’s biased…”

          Your cites fell off, since they never existed, you lying piece of lefty shit.

    4. “Once again, the liberal press is being held up to a standard of perfection, while any standards at all applied to the right-wing media are met with “Don’t be silly” or “We’re just cheap entertainment!”

      There isn’t anything ironic about Tony defending extreme bias with bothsideism, not if by “ironic” we mean unexpected.

      Because Fox News is also biased, social justice warriors at the New York Times shouldn’t be criticized for shutting down liberal opinions that are insufficiently extreme?

      It’s a rhetorical question. It would be ironic if Tony’s answers were based on facts and reasonable.

      Tony’s fallacy of the day is brought to you by the good people at Tu Quoque. Tu Quoque, because two wrongs make a right!

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

    5. So you come to comment on a story about how the media is a big echo chamber drowning out dissenting voice, and your input is, “Here’s this other media company that is a big echo-chamber!”

      It’s not really adding to the conversation. Do you think people who comment on these articles are big consumers of Fox News?

    6. held up to a standard of perfection,

      Now tell us about real communism, you brain-dead lefturd.

      -jcr

    7. Once again, the liberal press is being held up to a standard of perfection,

      Why hold up the left to a standard when they have no principles to begin with?

      1. Power at any cost.

        Power for power’s sake.

        That’s not liberal or conservative – in the political or social sense. It’s just tribal human nature.

      2. What are the principles of Donald Trump?

        1. The same as a 1990s Democrat.

    8. NYT? Standard of perfection?

      When you melt the Boo-Berry marshmallow, what drug do you infuse it with?

    9. Can you point out anything FNC has been wrong about editorially, or has been blatantly dishonest about, in the last several years?
      Anything on the leve l of at least The Kovington Katholic Kids, if not Julie Swetnick, or Hands Up Dont Shoot. Surely nothing on the level of Muh RUSSIA!

      Do they routinely agitate for violence? Do they routinely edit tape to change the meaning to the opposite of the true context? Can you give us any examples at all from recent history?

  21. In Weiss’s telling, the Times is retreating from the ethic of journalistic open inquiry and pluralistic debate, replacing it with a pre-baked notion of what readers ought to think.

    “Instead, a new consensus has emerged in the press, but perhaps especially at this paper: that truth isn’t a process of collective discovery, but an orthodoxy already known to an enlightened few whose job is to inform everyone else….[T]he paper itself has increasingly become a kind of performance space. Stories are chosen and told in a way to satisfy the narrowest of audiences, rather than to allow a curious public to read about the world and then draw their own conclusions.

    This is really well stated. Just when it seemed America was coming to terms and making its peace with “leftist” bias in the media, that bias turned into something much darker and it needs to be pointed out.

    Even I was willing to accept a certain amount of bias in the media, with a general understanding that everyone comes to a story with their own biases and preconceptions. But what’s happening now is truly dark. It’s like “The Long March on the Institutions” suddenly went into high gear over the last 18 months and is executing a kind of ‘putsch’ against any countervailing opinions about things that aren’t as clear cut as we’re being told they are.

    I’m going to reiterate: I’m not particularly afraid of pack of (even if violent) gender-neutral intersectional twinks throwing bricks through some windows, or even burning down a few city blocks in Minneapolis. Sometimes things spiral out of control. What scares me is when the police, the city council, the mayor, the governor, the corporations and all of the elite media stand behind that violent pack. That’s when liberal people need to take notice of what’s going on, and realize that something ugly may be just around the corner.

    1. Or stop buying their mugs and tshirts.

  22. it’s hard to get exercised about a well-paid writer/editor noisily walking away from her job.

    Wait, this isn’t really about that. In fact, that never crossed my mind. There are times and places where the financial status of the person forced out of their job might be appropriate, but this isn’t that. It’s someone voluntarily walking away from “The Newspaper of Record” because of what sounds like an absolutely awful environment to work in. We’re told to BelieveAllWomen, we’re told to trust all reported hate incidents and racist attacks, and what’s reported here is a fairly believable– dare I say… ‘credible’ series of accusations about the paper’s work environment. If this were a simple case of sexism or racism of the proper sort, there’d be a lot more people exercised about this situation. But because this person presumably has the wrong politics, we shrug and move on.

    And maybe we shouldn’t get exercised about it. Maybe we should just shrug and move on. But that suggest that the next Jussie Smollett or Blasey-Ford that pops up that perhaps we should also just shrug and move on.

    1. Credible. I see what you did there. Well played.

      You’ll probably hear the NYT say they’ll investigate the situation, but don’t hold your breathe. The asylum is truly run my the inmates there now. Ken hit the nail on the head above. Journalists are probably the most hated people in the country and they don’t seem to even get it. And that’s with Donald “orange man bad” Trump being president.

      1. The Times is still investigating how they covered Stalin’s killing 10M kulaks in the Ukraine.

    2. Don’t be too hard on Welch. Given the circumstances there was simply no possible means to invoke both sides.

      1. I’m not trying to be hard on Welch. Welch is till my favorite of the old-school Reasonoids and I think his media takes are some of the best in the industry.

        1. Like inviting all Conservatives to the Red Wedding?

  23. More immediately, the name-and-shame defenestrations of the past two months have long since jumped the banks from media/academia to the more prosaic corners of the economy. “Showing up for work as a centrist at an American newspaper,” Weiss observed, “should not require bravery.” Nor should it at a restaurant or software company, but there we might well be going.

    I’d like to remind the dear readers here that one of the Reason staff referred to James Damore derisively as “the memo bro”.

  24. > In Weiss’s telling, the Times is retreating from the ethic of journalistic open inquiry and pluralistic debate, replacing it with a pre-baked notion of what readers ought to think.

    The New York Times hasn’t been about journalistic open inquiry and pluralistic debate in at least a quarter of a century. The only difference today is that the rag is loudly open about its Rightthink.

  25. Bari Weiss has found her audience among the right-wing misfits. A whining, grievance-consumed, conservative malcontent is a great fit with faux libertarians and anti-social outcasts.

    Is there an entity that has associated with her and does not regret it?

    1. *Looks at the newly released BAFTA award requirements for eligibility.*

      Yes, it’s the political right that’s grievance consumed.

    2. I’m sure the New York Times regrets it. That was one epic takedown in her resignation letter. She said they should put Twitter in the masthead, since it’s the final editor now.

      1. Perhaps.

        But so many deplorables – the Twitter crowd – will see that as a win for them.

      2. She whined about how people at The New York Times didn’t respect her opinions — which consisted mostly of sniping at liberals and defending right-wing belligerence in Israel — much as she whined about how people at the Wall Street Journal didn’t respect her opinions. She also complains about how she felt like at outcast in high school because of her opinions. She complained about how people treated her in college because of her opinions.

        When everybody around you is a problem . . . it seems likely that you are a problem. In several of these settings, colleagues have expressly stated that Bari Weiss is a liar, a malcontent, and/or delusional.

        I hope she finds some peace. But so far her opinions don’t seem to be as valuable or attractive as she perceives them to be.

        1. And how was she a conservative again? Not a neocon but a true conservative? Listened to her on Rogan and thought no way…

          1. Are you asking why she isn’t stupider and more ridiculous? The NYT has some standards, I think.

        2. Kirkland Rimmler.

          He’s a believer.

        3. First ever post you didn’t sound like a straight-up parody, a half-tick less obvious than OpenBorders Liberaltarian,

          She may have all the character deficiencies you cite. The NYT is still a madhouse, run by the inmates, and not even the most sane of them.

    3. Stop pretending you’re a libertarian, you bitch.

  26. Here’s something about our current political state that I’ve been struggling with, and I’m going to throw it out here for the boardz to criticize, comment on or completely ignore.

    I believe in both of the following statements:

    Donald Trump, as a person and with his temperament is entirely unfit for the Office of the President.

    Donald Trump is utterly necessary as POTUS.

    1. Donald Trump, as a person and with his temperament is entirely unfit for the Office of the President.

      Donald Trump is utterly necessary as POTUS.

      Agreed. I’ve been saying for years Trump is like a court jester. He doesn’t do anything fundamentally differently from other presidents, he just pulls up the curtain of elegance that is normally drawn over the brutishness, lying, and bullying.

      In himself, Trump concerns me not at all – he’s just a symptom, not a movement. But for many he reveals the arbitrariness in the way the power of the presidency is wielded and people are starting (I hope) to rightfully see how dangerous that office has become. OTOH, he also reveals those who don’t want that revealed (i.e., much of the media and academia, apparently).

      In short, he’s been a much-needed slap in the face for American politics.

    2. Yeah…
      If Biden wins, whatever lunatic he picks as his running mate will effectively be president. As if the thought of him being president isn’t bad enough….

    3. So true. He’s not the hero we deserve right now, he’s the hero we need

    4. Because we need the world’s worst possible response to a pandemic? Will it still be fun and games when he discovers he has nukes? I bet all the people with no health insurance just laugh and laugh about Trump’s hijinx. He really trolls those libtards! Job description 1 in the constitution.

      You know he’s the Republican party’s choice for president of the US, and as it happens the president, and it’s not a joke?

      Anyone with the leisure time to say horseshit like this is proving the privilege police right.

      1. Pretty sure the world’s worst pandemic response was Cuomo stuffing the elderly into nursing homes completely ignoring CDC guidance.

        1. You fucktards all have the same talking points all at the same time.

          I read right-wing horseshit media so I know where you get it. Pathetic.

          1. By the way, Phailing Phil Murphy, Head Progtard of the People’s Republic of NJ did the same thing as Cuomo. Sending KungFlu patients into nursing homes was utter incompetence. Especially when we had data in hand in early March from Italy and Spain; the science was how transmissable and deadly KungFlu was in nursing homes.

            Yet Phailing Phil Murphy ignored it. Cuomo and Murphy, typical Progtards blinded by their own ideology. May the reap what they sowed.

          2. “You fucktards all have the same talking points all at the same time.”

            You slimy piece of lefty shit, “facts” are not talking points.

          3. I notice that this is not an argument…

            1. He’s calling out the right-wingers for sounding alike, without noticing it’s because they are citing reality, not a “narrative”. Sorry, Tony.

    5. I told you cucks back in 2015.

  27. I have no sympathy for quitters – unless it is a carefully laid legal trap about “hostile work environment” against the woke ones.

  28. The New York Times.

    Come for the outrage porn. Stay for the indoctrination.

  29. “hostile work environment” yes! Use their rhetoric against them. Flop on the floor. Tell the Times ”not safe” to work there. If so bold, sue them.

    1. That would require the HR department to be on your side. And they are far more lefty than centrist or right.

      I am glad I’m out of the workforce now. I would not do well in the corporate culture that requires me to keep my mouth shut.

    2. It’s tempting to play the lefty grievance game and roll around on the field clutching your knee like so much soccer player. But I’m a firm believer in not doing that, and continuing to hold the moral high ground. Even if for no other reason than your own dignity.

      1. Yeah. Did you ever see the movie Tom Horn? The scene where the mob goes to reluctantly hang him. And what he has to say to them?

        He died with his dignity. But, he still died.

        We’d be better off if people would turn the lefty grievance game back on them for a while.

        I have been known to propose that the NFL be required to adopt an Affirmative Action program just like the one’s I was forced to use as a hiring manager during my own career. The stated “non-discriminatory” “non-goal” was to have the workforce racial demographic mirror the racial demographics of the population in our service areas. For the NFL, it would have to be nationwide as, they play across the nation and broadcast across the nation.

        Can you imagine the results of this “race neutral” “not-a-goal” action?

    3. Yes, let us stoop to their level.

      1. I’m sure there were lots of Holodomor victims that felt satisfied in their sense of dignity. A weapon is a weapon.

  30. Why doesn’t the NYT just come out and admit they are not longer the paper of record and are now a liberal flagship? Everyone knows it and that is the trend of media in our age anyway — declare a side and be done with it.

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  32. Go read the bios of who make up the NYT editorial board.

    Ga’head.

    1. A ton of diversity? Catholics? Irish, Italian, Polish, Syrian, Greek, Japanese, American Indian? No…err I didn’t think so

    2. In the words of someone who visits a bathhouse in Europe and finds the whole situation very confusing, is this a Jewish thing?

  33. no sign of ABETTING?

    Abating? Anybody care/know what words they’re using?

    The quality of thought accords with the answer: No.

  34. Now she can do what she’s always wanted to do: Join Joel Pollak and the brave truth tellers at Breitbart. They’re the only ones really telling the truth!

  35. It is columns like this that made me cancel my subscription to Reason. The NY Times has been a redundant and miserable publication for at least over 20 years. Welch like many wants to always curry favor with the supposed intelligentsia, which in his mind and the minds of many at Reason seems to be the writers, editors, and adherents of the NY Times. Reason stopped a long time ago being a libertarian publication. It has morphed into an apologist for the authoritarian left like those that write, edit and follow the NY Times. NY Times harshly disrespected views that clashed with its own many years ago. Welch not recognizing or admitting is quite stunning. To call Weiss one of the most polarizing writers is simply incredulous and indicates Welch must merely use the NY Times to line his bird cage because he possibly could not be actually reding the newspaper for the past twenty years.

  36. Oh have the chickens come home to roast….

    Ms Weiss was on Rogan and all I could think of was another neocon who the NYT or WAPO thinks is a conservative (it is amazing to me they can’t get a conservative who didn’t used to be a jewish liberal). Seriously Jennifer Rubin anyone? Russia, the Czar and the Middleast and if you suggest American interests are not settling old world grudges you are ..well you know..

    Now what the liberal elites have created since the 1960’s are coming for them…..the demonization by the left and neocons of American traditions, the Bill of Rights, anyone from Europe, noninterventionism, anti Fed and so on has created this insane class of jacobins who are turning against the groups that created them. If everything is about tribe and equal results..well I’m sad to say there will be questions in the media, academia, non profits and so on why certain groups are overrepresented…again you create this atmosphere of attacking an American ideal which is greater than the group..it comes back at you. Socialism and secularism are at the root of this monster. Sorry Ms. Weiss you should have come out against this a long time ago…reject neocon and supported true conservatives like Ron Paul…

  37. “War is peace.
    Freedom is slavery.
    Ignorance is strength.”
    ― George Orwell, 1984

  38. So her feelings were hurt because other people disagreed with her and so she canceled herself.

  39. “Chickens coming home to roost”

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  41. The George Floyd death is similar to the self immolation of the fruit guy who kicked off the Arab Spring in Tunisia

    Considering the scope of the protests that followed each case, riots/demonstrations spanning the entire US and agitation from Tunisia through Libya and Egypt to Saudi Arabia and Syria, it’s hard to imagine them as “spontaneous”.
    Plans were in place.

    Were they just waiting for events like these, or is there cause to question the originating event?

    1. When the world doesn’t seem rational, you conjure a conspiracy theory to make it less so, for good measure.

      1. It’s not like the Arab Spring ended up making the Middle East a freer place.

        1. Thanks to western media.

        2. I wouldn’t be all that shocked if the Arab Spring was all planned and executed by the CIA, but we’ll never know.

          Fabricating a police murder when there are so many real ones to choose from seems a bit implausible.

  42. Where is all of this “Bari Weiss is a right wing conservative” stuff coming from. Even her self-description as a centrist was a bit silly – she is of the left without question. The traditional left…. Not the new marxist left.

    There seems to have been a memo sent out in DNC online troll circles that decrees that there be a push to brand her as a conservative. That is a bizarre take. She is probably well to the left of Joe Biden. Certainly well left of Biden from his Senate years. Or HRC for that matter.

    I don’t get it. What is the point of chasing down a moderately known writer and rebranding her as a neocon?

  43. If you listen to Matt on various podcasts, the only thing that really gets a rise out of him is his utter disdain for Trump. I can’t really grasp how the twitter comments manage to drive such passion, but the hate he inspires pushes out any passion for other topics.

    The threat of cancel culture should be right in Reason’s wheelhouse, inspiring article after article of passionate defense of free speech. But we have not really seen much of that at all. They cheered the cancellation of Alex Jones. They only had one writer defending Milo and Ben Shapiro. They pretty much ignored the deplatforming story as a conspiracy theory….

    And now look where we are. Electric workers are getting cancelled because they casually hang their arm out of a truck window. And still this is almost exclusively right wing outlet territory. Reason should be at the very front of this issue. The ACLU should also be offering a strong defense of not just freedom from government prohibitions on speech, but also the general principle of free speech.
    .
    The people that I thought were the vanguard of liberty have ceded the field.

    1. It’s the TDS that distracts them. I agree they should be hammering at this but leave it to Robby. ENB doesn’t think deplatforming is real is likely to dismiss people who worry about it as ‘snowflakes’.

      TDS is tiresome.

      We have never seen ONE article about the results of First Steps.

      How about some balance here? Trump has done some good things. In fact, quite a few good things. The fact he drives the left and media nuts should make libertarians happy.

    2. Yeah, Soave has been doing well lately, but I would also like to see a lot more on defending the cultural, as well as legal, value of free speech.

    3. Behind that stupid-looking Howdy Doody face lies the mind of a standard issue media hard left psycho.

      Don’t fall for the wishy-washy mealy-mouthed bullshit like what you see in this piece; he 99% supports all the shit that’s going on right now, though he may find it annoying when it happens to his fellow media lefties, who are the only people he really has any concern for.

    4. Milo? Seriously? You people have got to get a better class of pundit.

      The libertarian should say “Not my problem. Private entities can fire whoever they want for whatever the fuck reason they want.”

      Or that’s what I’ve been told when I’ve brought up any other workplace rights issue.

      1. This is why you will never understand what it is to be a civil libertarian. Disagreeing with someone doesn’t mean agreeing with having them silenced. Particularly not by screaming mobs who threaten violence if they don’t get their way.
        As offensive speech goes, Milo was about a 3 at Best. But he was flamingly gay and hit conservative talking points. Not as evil as a black conservative, but pretty evil. So he was violently opposed.

        Giving someone a heckler’s veto is not the libertarian position. That is true whether it is a public school or a private school. And it is true whether it is state or federal officials or just a bunch jerks who want to intimidate other people into silence.

  44. “Videotaped police killing of George Floyd”?

    Well, our reporter has embraced a popular misinterpretation and passed it on to us as fact.

    Subtly, I guess you could say. Or insidiously. Sort of like James Fields killed Heather Heyer in Charlottesville. My, how lies do thrive! And right here in Reason, at that.

    1. I doubt we will see anyone here doing a breakdown of everything that we know now. It is pretty clear that this is a more complex and nuanced situation then the initial report made it out to be. But there is no chance that anyone is standing up 2 write that at this point.

  45. These young woke journalist are children in adult bodies. They were never given the tools and opportunity to mature, and until they are curbstomped, we can expect more of the same.

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  48. Here’s a description of the situation Bari Weiss was in, from 2018.
    The gist of this article is that she was a stalwart of creating cancel culture, and the writer points that out.

    https://theintercept.com/2018/03/08/the-nyts-bari-weiss-falsely-denies-her-years-of-attacks-on-the-academic-freedom-of-arab-scholars-who-criticize-israel/

    Yes it’s Glenn Greenwald in the Intercept but it’s very pertinent. I did not know Weiss’ backstory as activist or really much about her work at all, and this article provides context.

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