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Reason Roundup

Washington's Recent Fiscal Recklessness Will Look Even Worse if America Is Heading Into a Recession

Plus: Fashion versus the police state, a truce in the Kansas-Missouri border war, and more....

Eric Boehm | 8.15.2019 9:30 AM

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Markets tumbled on Wednesday as the Dow Jones Industrial Average fell by more than 800 points and U.S. Treasury bond yields flashed a warning that usually signals a coming recession. Forecasters predict a slight recovery on Thursday despite the fact that overnight trading in Asian markets was similarly bad.

Are we heading for a recession? Treasury bonds seem to think so. The yield (how much investors get paid after the term of the bond) for 10-year U.S. Treasuries fluctuates with market conditions, but it almost always pays more than the yields for shorter term, two-year bonds. That makes sense, of course, because investors expect bigger payouts in exchange for locking up their money over a longer period of time. But on rare occasions, like yesterday, the yield curves will cross—"don't cross the streams!"—and the two-year bonds will offer higher yields. This is something investors refer to as an "inverted yield curve."

What is an inverted yield curve? It marks a point on a chart where short-term investments in U.S. Treasury bonds pay more than long-term ones. Here's why it's widely regarded as a bad sign for the economy. https://t.co/VCBISqhGR3 pic.twitter.com/sH1whoYLNb

— CNBC (@CNBC) August 14, 2019

That might seem like a weird little thing that shouldn't unnerve international markets so dramatically, but the last five times it's happened, a recession has followed.

If a recession is on the way, then recent fiscal recklessness on the part of Congress and the White House will look like an even bigger mistake. The current national debt exceeds $22 trillion, and the Congressional Budget Office estimates that the federal government is on pace to add another $11 trillion by the end of 2029.

Or, rather, that was the pace we were on before a massive new spending bill was approved by Congress last month. The CBO has yet to weigh in, but the $2.7 trillion budget deal is expected to add another $1.7 trillion to the debt over the next decade.

Those projections also don't anticipate recessions, which typically cause a decline in tax revenue and an increase in demand for government services. A recession, in other words, will make America's current debt crisis significantly worse.

When it comes to America's economic health, presidents generally get more credit and blame than they deserve. But it's impossible to ignore the impact on Wall Street of Trump's meddling in international trade and his haphazard handling of the trade war with China. The trade war is creating crippling uncertainty for businesses, many of which are delaying investment decisions. Exports have declined and business investment fell into negative territory during the last quarter—both of which could be effects of Trump's tariffs and could help cause a recession by slowing economic growth.

It is too soon to tell whether the next recession will be caused by Trump's trade policies. However, it is almost certain that the next recession will be worsened by his and Congress's total disregard for fiscal responsibility.


FREE MINDS

Resist the panopticon in style. Hacker and fashion designer Kate Rose unveiled her "Adversarial Fashion" line at a cybersecurity conference in Las Vegas last weekend. She tells The Guardian that if surveillance cameras are "able to be fooled by fabric, then maybe we shouldn't have a system that hangs things of great importance on it."

More from The Guardian:

To human eyes, Rose's fourth amendment T-shirt contains the words of the fourth amendment to the US constitution in bold yellow letters. The amendment, which protects Americans from "unreasonable searches and seizures", has been an important defense against many forms of government surveillance: in 2012, for instance, the US supreme court ruled that it prevented police departments from hiding GPS trackers on cars without a warrant.

But to an automatic license plate reader (ALPR) system, the shirt is a collection of license plates, and they will get added to the license plate reader's database just like any others it sees. The intention is to make deploying that sort of surveillance less effective, more expensive, and harder to use without human oversight, in order to slow down the transition to what Rose calls "visual personally identifying data collection".


FREE MARKETS

War is over if you want it. Gov. Laura Kelly of Kansas, a Democrat, and Gov. Mike Parson of Missouri, a Republican, signed a deal on Wednesday that they say will put an end to the practice of trying to lure businesses from one state to the other with tax breaks and other economic incentives. The so-called "economic border war" mostly resulted in taxpayers getting the bill for politically motivated job-poaching that didn't help either state's economy.


QUICK HITS

  • An autopsy revealed that Jeffrey Epstein suffered broken bones in his neck.
  • Trump hasn't condemned China's crackdown in Hong Kong because he made a private deal with Chinese President Xi Jinping to stay out of it.
  • The War on Terror will now officially be fought on American soil, too.
  • Happy trails to former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper, who is expected to end his Democratic presidential campaign.
  • Americans are depressed about the state of politics, but we only have ourselves to blame.
  • National Football League Commissioner Roger Goodell wants everyone to know he has a black friend.
  • What do The Rock, Pikachu, Jar Jar Binks, and Donald Trump have in common?
  • This guy gets it:

The right is worried that immigration will destabilize society. The left is worried that automation will. Am I the only one who thinks a society of people of diverse national origin, living and working beside intelligent machines, sounds absolutely fucking amazing? pic.twitter.com/Ncs9uqaxSG

— Casey B. Head (@CaseyBHead) August 13, 2019

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   6 years ago

    Markets tumbled on Wednesday as the Dow Jones Industrial Average fell by more than 800 points and U.S. Treasury bond yields flashed a warning that usually signals a coming recession.

    This is how Trump gets out of having to continue being president.

    1. John   6 years ago

      Doubtful.

      1. Chipper Morning Wood   6 years ago

        If the markets crash, it's gonna be Obama's fault.

        1. John   6 years ago

          Yeah, I am sure you will be blaming Obama. You called it.

    2. Rufus The Monocled   6 years ago

      Hello.

    3. JesseAz   6 years ago

      Of course boehm doesnt mention even the fed sec Yelin stated she doesn't believe a recession is going to occur. What happens is the automated trading algorithms reacted to the bad news (inverse yield) producing a sell off despite virtually every other market being positive. By next week this one day blip will be a one day blip. But boehm will continue to yell markets are imploding like the dumb love child of Krugman until he is right. Boehm is no better than Maher wishing for a recession because orange man bad.

      1. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

        More cheap stock for me to buy.

        Thanks rookie traders!

        1. JesseAz   6 years ago

          My 401k stock was scheduled to buy today. I was happy for yesterday.

          1. Hit and Run   6 years ago

            That is an important point... For most people with 401ks, they but in once or twice a month like clockwork because that's what is set up in the system. So they will always be some limited support. Even in a crash, the 401ks will still buy.

        2. TheLibertyTruthTeller   6 years ago

          Reason's absolute worst Trump troll goes totally off the rails, Again It's almost self-evident, but I'll explain it for the Alt-Right, now a majority in this vermin-infested commentariat.

          loveconstitution1789
          More cheap stock for me to buy.
          Thanks rookie traders!

          Exactly like Trump, when tragedies occur, he invents a reason to claim victory. For himself. The reason is absolute bat-shit crazy, to even the modestly informed. But it works. Trump's core base will believe anything said by their new Lord and Savior, Donald Trump..

          Trump is Second Coming, to anyone not brainwashed by the MSM and the Deep State.

          He's been training them for decades, starting with Birtherism. He knows he owns their very souls, because he bragged about it! They would defend him, as their Lord and Saviour, even if He shot someone someone to death , on Times Square ... in broad daylight.

          Can anyone really have their very soul that enslaved to a psychopath? Well, lc1789 he says it every time the market crashes. LC1789 says a stock market crash is a victory for Trump! Because people like him can afford to buy more stock. The total, absolute, crockpottery of that can be easily proven, by only 4 digits.

          1929.

          If those numbers don't have you laughing, hysterically, you have just finished reading this.
          .
          Believe lc1789, that the 1929 stock market crash was GOOD. Why? Working and middle class Americans could buy more stock ... so the 1930s saw the greatest worldwide economic boom EVER... even with unemployment over 30%

          No mistake. lc 1789 says the market crash was caused by "rookie traders," intentionally losing tens of billions of dollars, so they could buy the same stock they dumped ...at the same price they sold it for ... so HE could buy more stock. The diabolical bastards

          And that says all we need to know about Trump's core. base.. History buffs will also be singing the same song. HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN!

          Praise Jesus DONALD!

          Think I’m joking about Trumpsters? JesseAZ has signed on. His 401K can buy more stock. How much gain will Jesse pocket,
          when the stock returns to …. Where it was?

          Others will likely sign on. But from here on, most comments will be a raging hissy fit of hatred ... toward me.

          1. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

            Poor hihn troll.

            1. TheLibertyTruthTeller   6 years ago

              HUH? lc1789. YOU are the one who says stock prices are set by "rookie investors" NOT by millionaires, investment and pension funds.

              YOU are the one who says stock market crashes are a victory!
              Do a Google search for 1929 and get back to us.

              The crash of 1980 went to a 70% loss. YOU say that's a victory! It fed THE worst recession since the 1930s double digit inflation AND unemployment.

              Forget stock prices. How does the working and middle classes win with unemployment at 30% (1930a) and 14% (1980s) ... were all those layoffs millionaires and billionaires?)

              But BLESS YOU. For anyone who may have thought I was exaggerating about Trump's core base ... you just proved me correct by sinking even lower!

              (Can he or she sink even lower? Stay tuned!!)

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   6 years ago

                Dumbfuck Hihnsano has another bitchfit.

                1. TheLibertyTruthTeller   6 years ago

                  Trumptards call it a bitchfit ... to defend massive gaffes by any fellow cyber-terrorists... thereby proving me correct about Trumpsters!.

                  FACT, RESEARCH: Cyber-bullies don't care about looking foolish to the adults in the room ... who already know they're thugs, bullies and aggressors..

                  They comment solely to nurture fellow terrorists, which REQUIRES unprovoked assaults, like this? How many are here already? (yawn).

                  There will be more. Take one for the team!

                  1. Red Rocks White Privilege   6 years ago

                    Dumbfuck Hihnsano bitchfits and copypastas his programming some more.

                    1. TheFOURTHReich   6 years ago

                      How does one copy pasta?
                      Are you too cowardly to address the issues he stated?
                      So you would censor or assault him or her for winning.
                      Why do you say the same thing, and assault the same persons as the Shitlord?
                      Why is it a matter of pride to be a shitlord, and celebrate your white supremacy?

                      Do you not realize you are hatred signalling? Or don't you care?

          2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   6 years ago

            Haha. The Dow having a bad day is a “tragedy”? Get some perspective, man. This is why more people don’t take the perpetually aggrieved left more seriously. And of course, you’re all far too brilliant to consider changing tack. Haha. What a drama queen.

            Don’t change a thing.

            1. TheLibertyTruthTeller   6 years ago

              (boldface in self-defense of aggression, by someone who misread both the article and me, topped by a wacky false ASS-umption))
              Another one!

              THIS WAS NOT ABOUT "THE DOW HAVING A BAD DAY." FAR GREATER CONCERN IS THE INVERTED CURVE, WHICH HAS CAUSED A RECESSION THE LAST FIVE TIMES A ROW .

              1) TOTALLY misread my use of "tragedy. "It was lc1789 who saw it as a tragedy. What else would cause him to post anything so totally humiliating?

              2) A tragedy to who? To Trump. duh

              3) How can you defend market crashes being GOOD, after my correcting that nonsense. Now YOU google 1929

              MORE WHINING, typical Trump base.

              people don’t take the perpetually aggrieved left more seriously

              ASS-umes only the left does not worship his Lord and savior. So the left now includes George Will, Bill Kristol, Michael Steele? (just the prominent ones)

              Now check the web archive of my published writing"> Check the topics: Taxes, Health Care, Governing and Education.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   6 years ago

                Dumbfuck Hihnsano thinks we're about to have another Great Depression.

          3. R Mac   6 years ago

            “bat-shit crazy”

            Yes, yes you are.

            1. TheLibertyTruthTeller   6 years ago

              ANOTHER assault by a Trumpster -- AS PREDICTED!

              Like all cyber-bullies
              ... COMPELLED to launch hate-fueled assaults. Does NOT care if he makes a public fool of himself on the issues AND LYING about what I said.

              Now THREE Trumpsters defend their Lord and Savior by going rogue
              1) Stock market crashes are GOOD.
              2) BELLEEBS that the working and middle-class workers GAIN from 15-30% unemployment, caused by .... unemployed millionaires?

              It's like the loyalty oaths during the 1950s GOP communist witch hunt. One MUST show loyalty to the cause, or be guilty of TREASON.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   6 years ago

                Dumbfuck Hihnsano belches more lunacy.

    4. Sevo   6 years ago

      One sure way to make a small fortune is to start with a big one and make your investments by timing the market.
      I guarantee there will be a recession................
      sometime.

  2. John   6 years ago

    The right is worried that immigration will destabilize society. The left is worried that automation will. Am I the only one who thinks a society of people of diverse national origin, living and working beside intelligent machines, sounds absolutely fucking amazing?

    Sadly, no you are not. Total naivety and complete ignorance of how the world actually works is sadly the norm rather than the exception. You are a rube in a world run by maroons.

    1. Ray McKigney   6 years ago

      But just imagine all the great ethnic restaurants!

      1. John   6 years ago

        And food trucks and uber. Think of all the delicious food trucks you can access by Uber as you live paycheck to paycheck in your career in the gig economy.

        1. JesseAz   6 years ago

          Food trucks run by white people appropriating other cultures.

          1. John   6 years ago

            That is not funny Jesse. Cultural appropriation is serious!!

        2. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

          Be serious John. Of course all these millennials will have their video go viral any day now!

      2. Zeb   6 years ago

        Yeah, there aren't any of those now.
        The US is very diverse and that isn't going to stop being the case.
        I'm pretty pro-immigration (of people who can be productive or at least not a drain on other people's resources), but the fetishizing of "diversity" in a very narrow ethnic sense as a good in and of itself is pretty weird.

        1. Rufus The Monocled   6 years ago

          This. And Reason is treading that line. The tweet was a tad immature as John pointed out.

    2. JesseAz   6 years ago

      Apparently we cant reach a diverse country by only allowing 1 million visas a year.

      1. John   6 years ago

        As long as we have a single unfashionable white person, we can never be diverse Jesse.

      2. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

        Exactly, JesseAz.

        America cannot possible be considered "diverse" when tens of millions of mixed ethnic Americans have babies.

        "Diversity" is only when non-Americans are thrown into the Melting Pot that we already have had since 1776.

        1. Rat on a train   6 years ago

          My children are not mixed race. They are brown. It works out better that way.

          1. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

            You know what I am trying to say.

            America is already super "diverse". America is so "diverse" that we don't actually have an American race.

    3. Chipper Morning Wood   6 years ago

      Not all of us can have a cushy federal government job, John, where we can post all day on Reason from our cubicle.

    4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   6 years ago

      Haha. Just about anyone who leads in with “am I the only one who.......” is about to say something stupid.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   6 years ago

    ...put an end to the practice of trying to lure businesses from one state to the other with tax breaks and other economic incentives.

    The first one to get across the board his or her state's tax and regulatory burden reduced will be guilty of breaking the cease fire.

    1. Jerryskids   6 years ago

      Bipartisan cooperation: Two thieves with their hands so deep in each others pocket that they can't individually rob a third.

  4. Fist of Etiquette   6 years ago

    An autopsy revealed that Jeffrey Epstein suffered broken bones in his neck.

    And, apparently, rhinoplasty.

    1. Leo Kovalensky II   6 years ago

      How the rhino got into his cell is anybody's guess.

      1. John   6 years ago

        The worst part is it was wearing a "Hillary 2016" T-Shirt.

        1. Ray McKigney   6 years ago

          She persisted.

          1. Hit and Run   6 years ago

            "what happened"

    2. I, Woodchipper   6 years ago

      Even I am starting to believe in this conspiracy theory.

      1. John   6 years ago

        How do you hang yourself with paper sheets? No kidding, the sheets in his cell were paper. And the guards just happened to fall asleep and lie about checking on the one prisoner in their custody whose death anyone would care about? Yeah, that sounds legit.

        1. Kevin Smith   6 years ago

          They were government employees, I expect nothing less than sleeping on the job from them

          1. John   6 years ago

            No. Government employees and especially cops know when to do their jobs just enough to stay employed. If it were anyone but Epstein, your explanation would be fine. But, it wasn't.

            1. Chipper Morning Wood   6 years ago

              John is speaking from personal experience here.

              1. John   6 years ago

                My main job is living rent free inside of your head. The quarters are cramped and the place is empty, but it is free.

                1. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

                  Be careful, John, that place is scheduled for demolition at any moment.

            2. Kevin Smith   6 years ago

              Sometimes doing your job "just enough" still leaves time a for a nap

        2. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

          I didnt hear anything about paper sheets. I thought he was off suicide watch after spending a few weeks on it?

          Paper is wood. Do enough plys of that paper and you might have something fairly durable. See plywood.

          People do break neck bones when they hang.

          This smells fishy but no smoking gun yet. As intended. No jail guard was going to put their freedom on the line for a paid hit on Epstein.

        3. Ron   6 years ago

          to bad there is no more Myth Busters, it would be great to see them try to roll a paper sheet into a noose.

          1. John   6 years ago

            That would be very interesting. Even if they were still on the air, no way would they have the balls to do such a show.

            1. Zeb   6 years ago

              Balls or bad taste. I think suicide is probably not a great subject for a popular entertainment show.

            2. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

              Disposable detention coveralls

              I dont think the coveralls are what you guys think. They have a zipper and its made from "1 oz. spun-bonded, non-woven polypropylene is breathable, soft and pliable".

          2. Zeb   6 years ago

            I'm sure it's possible. Paper is pretty strong under tension.

      2. Zeb   6 years ago

        Yeah, seems mighty fishy given how many important people likely had something to worry about if he went to trial. I'm not convinced, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if he was murdered.

        1. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

          The goal is to deflect the attention away from them until a new false flag operation is conducted.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   6 years ago

    Trump hasn't condemned China's crackdown in Hong Kong because he made a private deal with Chinese President Xi Jinping to stay out of it.

    Luckily Trump doesn't honor his contracts forever.

    1. John   6 years ago

      Trump isn't trying to start World War III. The guy is a maniac, unfit to be President.

      1. JesseAz   6 years ago

        No no no. Trump is the first president ever to negotiate a private deal. This is unheard of. We probably need to invent a word for this... how about diplomacy.

        1. soldiermedic76   6 years ago

          Nadler will surely use this as another excuse to try to unseal grand jury records. Especially considering the courts just denied his flimsy first attempt.

  6. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

    "Markets tumbled on Wednesday as the Dow Jones Industrial Average fell by more than 800 points and U.S. Treasury bond yields flashed a warning that usually signals a coming recession."

    AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH....

    The sky is falling!!!!!

    DOW Jones is back up 100+ points as of 9:35 am EST.

    1. mad.casual   6 years ago

      NPR, yes that NPR, had talking head after talking head, including Yellen, reciting the 'this isn't the indicator of recession you're looking for' mantra. Very strange.

  7. Fist of Etiquette   6 years ago

    The War on Terror will now officially be fought on American soil, too.

    THE FOUNDERS NEVER MEANT TO SIGN A SUICIDE PACT!!!

  8. Conchfritters   6 years ago

    ..a truce in the Kansas-Missouri border war.

    Don’t meth with Missouri.

    1. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

      "Misery" you mean.

      But yeah, don't get high on your own supply.

      1. Zeb   6 years ago

        I thought it was "Miseruh"

        1. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

          The pronunciation is all good and the spelling fits Ozark living.

  9. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

    Proposition 13 treats all California property taxes the same. Voters could change that in 2020

    Some of the highest taxes in the USA and now a push for far higher taxes?

    Looks like more businesses will flee that shithole state.

    1. wearingit   6 years ago

      Morons like you can flee if you like. Some realize the value of taxes spent wisely.

      Why does Cali continue to be the 6th biggest economy of the world? Shouldn't Alabama or Kansas be in the lead ahead of them if low taxes are so great?

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   6 years ago

        Fucking LOL at citing Cali "spending taxes wisely" after the high-speed rail boondoggle.

      2. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

        Haha. This troll wearingit doesnt not even realize that I don't live in Commifornia.

        Its like these bots are getting even dumber script coders than before.

      3. L cucullatus   6 years ago

        Are you implying high taxes are what makes Cali's economy so productive ? And are you implying that that money is being spent wisely ? yikes.

        1. Chipper Jones   6 years ago

          He clearly has not spent time at a california dmv.

  10. John   6 years ago

    ..a truce in the Kansas-Missouri border war.

    Headlines from 1859

    1. Ray McKigney   6 years ago

      John Brown hit hardest.

      1. John   6 years ago

        Best State Capitol art ever.

        http://www.kshs.org/p/kansas-state-capitol-online-tour-tragic-prelude/16595

        1. Ray McKigney   6 years ago

          Friggin' awesome.

        2. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

          +10

          Hay, that's pretty awesome.

          1. John   6 years ago

            The bible and the gun are perfect.

        3. H. Farnham   6 years ago

          Not a fan. I'm a very proud Kansan, but I hate the fetish that my state has with John Brown. Abolitionism was a just and noble cause, but that man was a murderous zealot, plain and simple. The ends don't justify the means.

          1. Ray McKigney   6 years ago

            The mural doesn't strike me as adulatory of Brown. But YMMV.

          2. John   6 years ago

            He was a murderous zelot in the pursuit of a cause that was fighting real evil. If it involved anything less than the evil that was slavery, the fact that he was a zealot would be a point against him. Against slavery, it is a virtue.

            Regardless, the painting is so over the top it is great. It's awsomeness has nothing to do with your opinion of Brown.

  11. Fist of Etiquette   6 years ago

    Happy trails to former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper, who is expected to end his Democratic presidential campaign.

    So I take it the plan for these B-listers to get into this so that they can drop out and endorse the eventual winner and get a cabinet post or ambassadorship? Seems like a long con which has a payoff not commensurate with the effort.

    1. John   6 years ago

      That practice is so long established, I am not sure you can even call it a con anymore. It is just one of the ways you get a cush job if your party wins the White House.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   6 years ago

        Only, it seems, if you back the right horse.

        1. John   6 years ago

          That is a universal rule of politics.

        2. Hit and Run   6 years ago

          Hillary said neigh.

          1. R Mac   6 years ago

            Not as well as AOC does.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   6 years ago

      Like I posted below, the state Dems are begging him to run for Senator. That's likely where he'll go if he really wants to stay in politics, unless President Biden taps him for a cabinet position--Commerce or Energy would be my guesses, given his background.

    3. Chinny Chin Chin   6 years ago

      Way I see it, B-lister gets a bunch of idiots to pay for their life for a few months' campaigning, and gets a phony-baloney job (with great benefits and pension package) in return.

      Win win

    4. Chipper Morning Wood   6 years ago

      But it is commensurate with the effort. These people crave attention and power above all. Both campaigning and a cabinet post satisfy those urges.

  12. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

    Nuclear Reactor for Mars Outpost Could Be Ready to Fly by 2022

    Cue Space Force Theme Music.

    Eat your heart out Ars TechniLeftyca.

    1. Ray McKigney   6 years ago

      In space no one hears lefty heads explode.

      1. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

        I am a glass half-full kind of guy.

    2. mad.casual   6 years ago

      And yes, "Simpsons" buffs, the Kilopower folks are your people: DUFF and KRUSTY are references to the iconic animated TV show.

      In all honesty, I was reading all of Patrick McClure's quotes in Phil Hartman's voice before I got to the part with the acronyms.

    3. Hit and Run   6 years ago

      Shouldn't they just use solar?

      1. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

        Problem #1 is periods of no Sun.

        #2 size of solar panels to electricity production ratio is probably not as good as these reactors. We have decades of proven reliability with small space probe reactors: Voyager, Pioneer, Cassini, Galileo...

        1. mad.casual   6 years ago

          Even the rovers that were nominally solar powered required radiothermal heating to keep their batteries from freezing. They approached/surpassed Viking 1's operational record but couldn't have come anywhere close without relying on heat from radioisotopes.

  13. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

    Philadelphia suspected gunman in custody after hourslong standoff and six officers shot

    Maurice Hill is the suspect's name supposedly. Let's see if the MSM Propagandists call this guy a Black Supremacist mass murderer.

    1. John   6 years ago

      If Trump is responsible for inciting violence against immigrants, why isn't BLM and the entire Democratic party who are its cheerleaders responsible for this?

    2. $park¥ is the Worst   6 years ago

      mass murderer

      Why would anyone call him a mass murderer?

      1. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

        I thought headlines were supposed to have lies in them.

        1. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

          Haha. $parkY walked right into that one.

          1. $park¥ is the Worst   6 years ago

            Yeah, you’re right. I forgot how retarded your “jokes” are.

            1. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

              That wasn't a joke.

              I will let you know when I post a joke. Hold your breath until then.

  14. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

    U.S. Applies to Seize Iranian Tanker Held in Gibraltar

    Thanks to Trump, the American taxpayer is getting a refund on that horrible cash pallet transaction Obama did with Iran.

  15. Red Rocks White Privilege   6 years ago

    Happy trails to former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper, who is expected to end his Democratic presidential campaign.

    The state party's been begging him to run for Senator because the polls are showing that he'd wax Cory Gardner, so that's probably where his campaign war chest will be directed.

    We'll see if he goes in that direction. Senator is a pretty sweet gig, but he's been doing politics for 16 years already as Denver mayor and CO governor, and I suspect his Presidential run was more of a flight of fancy ("Gee, wouldn't it be neat to be President?") than anything serious.

  16. Fist of Etiquette   6 years ago

    Am I the only one who thinks a society of people of diverse national origin, living and working beside intelligent machines, sounds absolutely fucking amazing?

    I hope this Russian NPC bot likes ushering in not only the collapse of American culture as we know it but also the rise of a multilingual Skynet.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   6 years ago

      This sperg is actually stupid enough to think the purpose of the machines is to supplement the labor force rather than replace it. Fast-food corps wouldn't be looking into automated food-making machines and investing in self-serve order kiosks if they actually considered them complementary.

      1. Chipper Morning Wood   6 years ago

        The purpose of automation is to free the human mind and body from menial tasks for the purpose of pursuing other, hopefully more satisfying and creative, tasks.

        1. JesseAz   6 years ago

          No it is not. Automation is meant to replace low skilled labor. Full stop. It is not intended to allow you to sit on your ass painting happy trees. Automation is a cost analysis on a business like every other expense. Your free time has nothing to do with it.

          1. mad.casual   6 years ago

            He's also stolen another base (or two) in the assumption that a "freed" human mind doesn't, predominantly, just turn to mush. Like sitting around thinking about riding a bike or throwing a baseball imbues you with the skill of actually doing those things and/or not having to do those things, your brain (and body) will just retain those skills at their peak forever. A huge chunk of leisure activities already constitute emulating inefficient and laborious tasks that have already been automated or otherwise obsoleted.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   6 years ago

          Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism

          1. mad.casual   6 years ago

            "The purpose of automation is to free the human mind" = Fully automated lobotomies to pacify dissenters.

        3. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

          "The purpose of automation is to free the human mind and body from menial tasks for the purpose of pursuing other, hopefully more satisfying and creative, tasks."

          Haha. Where do the Communists come up with this stupid shit?

        4. Nardz   6 years ago

          "The purpose of automation is to free the human mind and body from menial tasks for the purpose of pursuing other, hopefully more satisfying and creative, tasks."

          So the same as socialism

        5. Hit and Run   6 years ago

          More satisfying tasks like getting woke...

          1. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

            +10

        6. EISTAU Gree-Vance   6 years ago

          Like dumpster diving! For the low skilled.

  17. Ray McKigney   6 years ago

    So, still nothing about the legislative branch's attempt to coerce the judicial branch to decide a case the way certain legislators want?

    1. John   6 years ago

      Don't worry, reason is often very worried about elected officials publicly criticizing judges

      http://reason.com/2017/02/05/trump-vs-the-judiciary/

      The same conservatives who were outraged by Obama's actions then should be outraged by Trump's actions now. Trump, just like Obama before him, is seeking to undermine the independence of the judicial branch because it threatens to rule against him. Judge Robart is not a "so-called judge." He was duly nominated by a U.S. president and duly confirmed by a Senate vote of 99-0. Trump may not like it, but as president he is constitutionally bound to obey federal court orders.

    2. John   6 years ago

      No, really, they are concerned about this

      http://reason.com/2017/03/22/gorsuch-calls-trumps-attacks-on-judges-d/

      Trump does not recognize this distinction, viewing any judicial interference with his agenda as illegitimate. "We're also taking decisive action to improve our [immigrant] vetting procedures," he said at a Republican fundraiser last night. "The courts are not helping us. I have to be honest with you. It's ridiculous. Somebody [Gorsuch, presumably] said I should not criticize judges. OK, I'll criticize judges."

      The courts are not supposed to "help" Trump. In fact, they are supposed to hinder him, to the extent that his policies conflict with the law. That is obviously a matter of dispute, and it should be the focus of Trump's criticism.

      If reason didn't employ lying leftist hacks with double standards, they wouldn't employ anyone at all.

      1. Ray McKigney   6 years ago

        Clearly, Trump's bluster is worse for the country than an actual threat of court-packing by Congress.

        1. John   6 years ago

          Orange man bad Ray. Orange man bad.

        2. $park¥ is the Worst   6 years ago

          an actual threat of court-packing by Congress.

          Have they done anything yet?

          1. John   6 years ago

            Do you know what the word "threat" means? Look it up and get back to us.

          2. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

            FDR had the House of Representatives passed the Judicial Procedures Reform Bill of 1937. It was defeated in the US Senate.
            Judicial Procedures Reform Bill of 1937

            So, yeah, the Democrats already tried to pack the SCOTUS to get their way.

          3. JesseAz   6 years ago

            Wow. Your mind must have exploded after you were busy just a few days ago saying trump already implemented red flag laws because he mentioned them in a speech.

            1. Juice   6 years ago

              So you're saying these situations are similar. Agreed. We should not be concerned with court packing because, like Trump's call for red flag laws, it's just talk and we should ignore it completely.

              1. JesseAz   6 years ago

                I've been the consistent one here. Waiting for energy to be put behind words. You and sparky were the ones claiming trump had already enacted regulations numbnuts.

                I'll wait until the idiots actually create a bill with a chance of passing to be outraged. Right now they just look like children.

              2. John   6 years ago

                We should not be concerned with court packing because, like Trump’s call for red flag laws, it’s just talk and we should ignore it completely.

                No. You should be concerned with both and call out reason's hypocrisy for only being concerned about one and not the other. And that is all that is going on here.

              3. $park¥ is the Worst   6 years ago

                It’s always funny to see the same three tards with the same retarded excuse.

          4. Ron   6 years ago

            I'd say putting threats on paper from congress critters is far more dangerous than the occasional off the cuff remarks from the president

  18. Fist of Etiquette   6 years ago

    What do The Rock, Pikachu, Jar Jar Binks, and Donald Trump have in common?

    Each will be president before the end of the half century.

    1. Enjoy Every Sandwich   6 years ago

      We've already had Jar Jar.

  19. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

    China softens stance on trade after saying it has to take counter-measures to US tariffs

    Poor Commies in China have to devalue their currency and now this?

    *Tyrant Leader Xi looks at sky and shouts something like KAWHN!

  20. Conchfritters   6 years ago

    A recession is probably two years out - we haven’t seen the top yet. And I believe the true “inverted” curve is when the 30 year crosses below the 90 day. But with the Fed easing already and the Prime Rate only around 2-2.25, we are fucked in the next recession - we have nowhere to go except negative rates and the Fed buying their own bonds again. Europe will be doubly fucked - the German 10 year bond I believe is still yielding negative %.

    1. John   6 years ago

      The sad fact is that we are in the midst of a fracking boom and a government that finally has an industrial policy besides "please come and rob us". This should be a golden age. Thanks to the fed and the Congress refusal to even try to control the deficit, we are setting ourselves up to be fucked royally when the business cycle eventually turns.

  21. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

    Russian pilot hailed after 'miracle' landing of passenger jet following bird strike

    Or was it? Looks to me like it was Trump interfering with Russia's elections that caused this. I don't look forward to Putin's pee tape.

  22. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

    Trump makes rare trip to Clinton state, hoping to win back New Hampshire

    Naw. Trump was just going to find Walter White's winter hideaway.

  23. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

    Stocks Plunged After the Yield Curve Inverted. History Says Don’t Worry — Yet

    Don't tell Eric Boehm. Once that guy has facts, he never runs around like the sky is falling.

  24. Fist of Etiquette   6 years ago

    If a recession is on the way, then recent fiscal recklessness on the part of Congress and the White House will look like an even bigger mistake.

    On Republicans, yes. Genius on the part of Democrats.

    1. John   6 years ago

      According to Peter Suderman, the House is no longer part of the Congress. Only the Senate and the President have anything to do with the budget and budget deficit.

      1. I, Woodchipper   6 years ago

        Wait I seem to remember reading somewhere that all taxes must originate in the house. Where did I read that? All I know is that's why the Obamacare tax when I have no insurance is more of a penaltax.

        1. John   6 years ago

          I seem to recall some really old concept about Congress having the power of the purse. But these things are like 400 years old and written in Sanskrit or something.

      2. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

        Of course, John, Trump piled on $22.5 trillion in US debt all by himself. He is Hitler, after all.

        It's funny that Democrats and their MSM Propagandists think the American public believes this crap. Even with all the evidence to the contrary (Trump's election).

      3. Leo Kovalensky II   6 years ago

        Well we all expect Democrats to increase spending. For some reason or another we still don't expect Republicans to go along with it. Fool me 10 times, shame on all of us?

  25. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

    Walmart shares jump following earnings beat and raised outlook

    I am going to laugh when 3rd Quarter earning do even better, in spite of a shooting, multiple threats clearing stores, and a guy testing the protections of the 2nd Amendment.

    I for one, spend a few thousand at Walmart last week instead of other stores, for food care packages.

    1. ThomasD   6 years ago

      Was at my local Walmart Sunday, they had a cop car parked right in front and two officers inside near the checkout aisles.

      Now, I've lived places where there was a police sub station in the Walmart, but here in east TN that was unusual.

  26. Tom Bombadil   6 years ago

    "The War on Terror will now officially be fought on American soil, too."

    A libertarian might argue that that is the one and only place it should be fought.

    1. John   6 years ago

      Good point.

    2. JesseAz   6 years ago

      These libertarians at reason believe we should actually give them visas so they come here.

  27. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

    Danny Masterson reportedly accused of stalking rape victims, calls suit 'beyond ridiculous'

    I for one cannot wait until they RICO that Cult of Scientology for all the illegal harassment they do. Gives real religious institutions a bad name. Well, not the Catholic Church.

  28. John   6 years ago

    http://www.kshs.org/p/kansas-state-capitol-online-tour-tragic-prelude/16595

    Don Lemon goes full Kevin Spacey while living on the low down.

    1. Ray McKigney   6 years ago

      Don Lemon bears an odd resemblance to John Brown.

      1. mad.casual   6 years ago

        Except John Brown is white, like Jack Lemmon and Don Lemon is black, like Jim Brown.

        1. Leo Kovalensky II   6 years ago

          And lemons are yellow and browns are brown.

          Mind. Blown.

  29. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

    Hickenlooper expected to end White House bid Thursday, sources say

    Wait, WAIT, wait. You mean Democrats jumped into the 2020 Democrat Primary without having a good plan to actually win?

    1. Conchfritters   6 years ago

      He was against marijuana when the people asked for it, and he was against marijuana after the people voted for it.

      1. JFree   6 years ago

        But the fact is despite that opposition, he still did the best job of any governor so far in making it happen smoothly.

        He's got the wrong personality for politics today outside CO. And he's too wussy when it comes to public unions. But he's one of the last examples of what used to be common in politics - a competent non-ideological moderate.

    2. Leo Kovalensky II   6 years ago

      There will never be a President Hickenlooper or Buttigeig, mark my words. Haven't these guys ever heard of stage names?

      Or maybe the kids at their schools weren't as clever at making up nicknames as they were at my grade school.

  30. John   6 years ago

    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article233947387.html

    Venezuela has lost as much as 20% of its population. Good thing that wasn't "real socialism" and things will be different next time because we will finally get the "right people in charge".

    1. Enjoy Every Sandwich   6 years ago

      It will be great once Boxer gets that windmill built.

    2. Zeb   6 years ago

      Yeah, real socialism would have lost them 30% of the population. It's like they don't even know how to purge right.

      1. John   6 years ago

        Real socialism shoots people at the border before they can escape.

    3. Ron   6 years ago

      Where will Americans go when America goes full socialist

      1. Leo Kovalensky II   6 years ago

        Gulags?

  31. John   6 years ago

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7353967/Did-Jeffrey-Epstein-portrait-Bill-Clinton-blue-dress-red-heels-NYC-mansion.html

    Jeffrey Epstein had a painting of Bill Clinton wearing a blue dress and red heels in his NYC mansion. The question is, did Bill do the modeling for it. I am guessing yes.

    1. Zeb   6 years ago

      That's really something. This whole thing just keeps getting weirder.

      1. John   6 years ago

        Check this out Zeb

        In 2010, film publicist and NYC power broker Peggy Siegal reportedly organized a dinner party for Prince Andrew at Epstein’s Manhattan mansion. In attendance were Katie Couric, Charlie Rose, Woody Allen, Chelsea Handler, and George Stephanopoulos.

        http://www.lamag.com/article/jeffrey-epstein-hollywood/

        2010 was after he had been convicted of having underage sex slaves. And those people were still hanging out with him and going to his house for dinner. Rose and Allen are known perverts. But how the hell are Couric and Stephanopolis not being held to account for this?

        1. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

          Its like getting drugs from the dealer.

          Once you have one that you can count on, you try to keep him.

        2. Tom Bombadil   6 years ago

          To be fair, Handler was only there for a waitressing gig.

    2. Ray McKigney   6 years ago

      "Dammit, can't you idiots do anything right? I told you to go in there and get that damn painting before the feds searched the place!!" -- HRC

    3. mad.casual   6 years ago

      I am guessing yes.

      I'm going to have to disagree. The face and hand almost appear to have been done by a different artist. Still, unless Epstein did it himself, he had to commission one, maybe two or more, people to do it. Which doesn't make it less weird.

      1. Tom Bombadil   6 years ago

        Of all his creepy clients, he chose to hang Bill his Wall of Honor? Must be a highly valued customer.

  32. Juice   6 years ago

    Trump hasn't condemned China's crackdown in Hong Kong because he made a private deal with Chinese President Xi Jinping to stay out of it.

    Did he tell Xi to wait until after the election when he'll be more flexible?

    1. John   6 years ago

      Trump isn't trying to start a world war. Do you need any more evidence of his unfitness for office? The guy is a lunatic.

      1. Juice   6 years ago

        Of course. And really it's more about the trade negotiations than nuclear war, even though the thought is always in the background. I do wonder what Republicans would say if it were reported that Obama wants to stay out of the conflict because he made a private deal with the Chinese.

        1. John   6 years ago

          Partisans are partisans. The issue is what is the smart thing to do. And I think staying out of it but using the threat of not to get something out of the Chinese is the smart thing to do.

        2. John   6 years ago

          And you are right about Sarah Silverman, her original show was funny. I don't think it was as funny as you do, but it was funny.

          1. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

            I always found her a dick and farts kind of joker with not much more in the tool box.

            I remember her being one of the people, where I would comment "Why did they pick this person"?

  33. Unicorn Abattoir   6 years ago

    "What do The Rock, Pikachu, Jar Jar Binks, and Donald Trump.."

    I recommend the following presidential assignments

    The Rock - SECDEF
    Pikachu - Ambassdor to Japan
    Jar Jar Binks - Economic Advisor. I would have recommended him for ambassator to the U.N., but we all know what happened the last time he had a job like that.

    1. John   6 years ago

      Chuck Norris - Homeland Security

  34. Dillinger   6 years ago

    >>National Football League Commissioner Roger Goodell wants everyone to know

    smokin' weed bad, slingin' 'caine good.

  35. wearingit   6 years ago

    That can't be right- aren't the Republicans the party of "fiscal conservatism?"

    You'd think that after decades Americans would wake the fuck up to realize the Republicans are far and away worse on fiscal conservatism. At least the Dems want to fund their pet projects.

    1. John   6 years ago

      No they don't. Notice something changed over the last year and the deficit went up 27%. The Democrats took the House. As bad as the Republicans are, and they are bad, the Democrats are worse.

      1. Ron   6 years ago

        Just like with Bush the dem's took over the last two years and what did we get the great recession

        1. John   6 years ago

          And the deficit exploded. The deficit was coming down from 03 to 06.

      2. Zeb   6 years ago

        It's really shocking at this point. It would be nice if there was anyone actually seriously suggesting a reduction in spending.

        1. John   6 years ago

          They don't care because the public doesn't care. No one ever lost an election for running up the deficit. Hell, the democrats are not even pretending to care anymore. Running against deficits while pretending they cared used to be the Democrats' move. Not anymore.

        2. mad.casual   6 years ago

          Reduction reduction? Or smaller increase reduction?

          1. Tom Bombadil   6 years ago

            Fewer lesser dollars money than the predicted greater morer plan.

          2. Zeb   6 years ago

            Either would be nice at this point. Reduction-reduction would be better.

      3. mad.casual   6 years ago

        It's also pretty willingly ignorant of the larger picture. Nevermind that violent sociopaths are forcing people to run the free shit race or be relegated to obscurity, it's the hypocritical candidates who vociferously oppose the free shit race but run anyway who are (equally) loathesome obstructionists.

    2. Dillinger   6 years ago

      >>>aren’t the Republicans the party of “fiscal conservatism?”

      1996 wants its topic back.

  36. Dillinger   6 years ago

    >>>Am I the only one who thinks a society of people of diverse national origin, living and working beside intelligent machines, sounds absolutely fucking amazing?

    probably not but you're douchy for tweeting like it's an original thought

    1. mad.casual   6 years ago

      I liked him better on the cover of MAD Magazine.

      1. Dillinger   6 years ago

        lol word.

  37. Aloysious   6 years ago

    I also think recessions have a psychological component, and that it appears certain journalists are trying to talk one into existence.

    Agreed.

  38. John   6 years ago

    I also think recessions have a psychological component, and that it appears certain journalists are trying to talk one into existence.

    That is absolutely the case. They are desperate to turn any economic bad news, no matter how insignificant, into the Great Depression.

  39. Sevo   6 years ago

    And every one of them began on a day ending in "Y"!

  40. Tom Bombadil   6 years ago

    I hate it when my curve gets inverted.

  41. Zeb   6 years ago

    Someone always accurately predicts a recession. Usually the person who is constantly predicting a recession. Funny how people get more credit for correct predictions than demerit for wrong ones.

  42. soldiermedic76   6 years ago

    Whatever happened to the Octopus that predicted Superbowl Victor's?
    On a slightly more serious note, everything is an accurate predictor until it isn't. Remember, until Reagan, every President first elected in a year ending in zero died in office. We've had two that haven't since then, of course this is just correlation.
    The better question is how often has the yield curve been inverted without a subsequent recession? Or is the time frame so generous (and recessions so inevitable) that a correlation can always be found?

  43. JesseAz   6 years ago

    They arent even hiding it. There have been many articles on a recession as the only means to stop trump.

  44. Ron   6 years ago

    the left and media claimed every year of Bush's presidency was a recession until it finally happed through government interference. they made it happen once after six years of trying they hope they can do it in four this time

  45. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

    +100000

  46. JesseAz   6 years ago

    Import illegal spanish calendars to stop the recession. Open the borders now!

  47. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

    Boiiiiiingggg!

  48. JesseAz   6 years ago

    See climate change?

  49. JFree   6 years ago

    Somehow that never seems to apply to gold bugs (or Austrian school) in their own mind.

  50. JesseAz   6 years ago

    He means " not all of us have a cushy federal job, I have to sit at home on a metal chair since welfare doesnt pay enough."

  51. Zeb   6 years ago

    Yeah, forgetting the predictions that failed to come true about climate is a similar phenomenon. I remember being told in the 90s that we wouldn't have snowy winters anymore in the 2000s.

  52. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

    Haha. You beat me to it.

    That was the perfect comeback for that little shit ChipperMW

  53. loveconstitution1789   6 years ago

    Spaceology

    Any IT Crowd fans out there?

    "Every star you can see in the night sky is a wish that has come true"!

  54. TheLibertyTruthTeller   6 years ago

    Fairly cleat explanation by Eric. I sent it to all my friends ... plus the part Eric missed, the reason an inverted curve has always forecast a recession in the past,

    Prices are determined by the Law of Supply and Demand.
    There's only one reason for long-term rates to sink below short-term. Investors and funds have lost all confidence in the future. Guess why?

    It's not just investors. 60-65% of all Americans think America is on the wrong track. (That's not ll from mounting fear of Trump's policies. A minority want a more leftward direction, but much of that comes from the perceived failures of the GOP).

    Investors are also a bit spooked that Trump, in his first two years has already added more new debt than Obama did AFTER 8 years. (CBO 2024 forecast) and they just added more. It's racing to a train wreck.

    Worse than Obama on debt despite inheriting the longest recovery ever -- from Obama. who began with the 2nd worst recession since the 1930s. (Much of Obama's s debt was actually created by Bush2's TARP)

    Jimmy Carter is ... not happy, but grateful. Soon, he will no longer rated as the worst President since Nixon.

  55. Red Rocks White Privilege   6 years ago

    Dumbfuck Hihnsano claims that "wearingshit" is an Eric sockpuppet.

  56. JFree   6 years ago

    My guess is the yield curve is no longer an indicator of anything other than out-of control debt load and Treasury debt maturities that have been ultra-short for two decades now. It's just broken now in the short-term and only matters now for the economy if it persists for a few bond auctions.

    It used to be an excellent indicator. But our debt load now is gonna break a ton of those indicators going forward. It's the first stage in how the debt load will ultimately cause the mother of all financial crises.

    First step - break everything that people think helps them project the future so that everyone is flying blind.

  57. NolanLibertarian   6 years ago

    Prices ARE set by The Law of Supply and Demand

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