Tonight on The Independents: Ebola Politics, Gary Johnson on Libertarian 'Spoilers,' LP Senate Candidate Amanda Swafford, Columbus Day Partying, Bobby Bones on Football Hazing, and After-show!
Tonight's live episode of The Independents (Fox Business Network, 9 p.m. ET, 6 p.m. PT, with re-airs three hours later) begins with the policy and politics of the fast-spreading Ebola virus, last seen taking down a nurse in Texas, and possibly driving another medical worker to the hospital in Kansas City. Party Panelists Julie Roginsky (Fox News contributor) and Kayleigh McEnany (conservative commentator) will talk about the government's proper role in combating infectious disease, the inevitable czar wars, and whether budget cuts are killing people. Later in the program, to lighten the mood, the two will talk about all the recent battleground gains made by ISIS.
Libertarian Party nominee Amanda Swafford, currently polling at around 4 percent in the neck-and-neck race for a Senate seat in Georgia, will be on to talk about her candidacy. Former LP presidential nominee Gary Johnson will also show up to address the perennial "spoiler" debate as we hurtle toward another tight election day. Country music DJ Bobby Bones will assess the New Jersey high school football hazing/assault story, because why not. And Kennedy hits the streets of New York, looking for wisdom about Columbus Day.
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My nails are all bit to pieces waiting for this.
We're all going to die of Ebola any day now and still I can't get a Moynihan.
Quick travel plug/beg:
I'll be in NYC 10/18 to 10/28. I'll be at a conference during the days until Wed, but free most evenings and then running around Friday until I fly home on Tuesday.
I don't know if NYers grab beer with internet acquaintences or if that's too west coast/gauche, but I'd be down to meet up.
That's one long conference.
Rufus!! Don't go tellin' tales outta school. 😉
We're actually getting in for it Sunday morning and it ends Wednesday. I just tack vacations to the end of these things. Thursday/Friday I'm up near Rochester to visit family.
My neighbor goes to Rochester every month for work.
Rochester the guy who was Jack Benny's butler?
Oh, the beg portion of it was for suggestions of things to do. I'm tired and dealing with mal de debarquement, so I'm not very focused, or apparently able to spell acquaintances.
Auto-tuned jihad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3xjz4nxzGQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOG9L4_dbdM
Those ay-rabs look awful white. I'm not buying it.
Don't worry! Expanding glaciers don't negate global warming
FTA:
A model used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) to simulate what will happen if the world continues to emit greenhouse gases at current rates was unable to capture these seasonal cycles
Nothing negates climate change and everything proves it. The science is settled.
The gall of these global warming phrenologist amazes me.
I thought the polar icecaps were melting away because of global warming? I thought the collapse of the Antarctic ice shelf had already started and there was nothing we could do to stop it? I thought a billion people were supposed to have died by now from the effects of global warming? I thought the ocean levels were to be 60-300 feet higher by now? I thought the entire southeastern US was going to turn into a desert by 2010?
Sure there is a consensus on global warming, now all they have to do is to get the climate on board with it.
Repent now, for the end is near. Gaia gonna getcha!!
I'm still waiting to see some data on sea level rise. Where is it? Exactly how much has the oceans risen in the past decade? Why do we never hear about this? We always hear that the ocean rise is going to doom us, but why do we never hear about how much it is rising?
Libertarian Party nominee Amanda Swafford
That's not a woman, it's a man, baby!
I mean, seriously, is she/he... a former drag queen? She looks like Dudly Do-Right.
C'mon....her chin's not that bad
Is that really necessary?
I couldn't help it dude, my fingers just typed that out without any precognition.
It's why we can't have nice things.
Beggars can't be choosers.
Her family named her after the microwave oven.
I believe Douglas Adams defined "Swofford" in the Meaning of Liff as: "A microwaved plate too hot to touch, supporting a foodstuff not yet warm enough to eat." Make of that what you will.
I'll expect the following:
1. Sure, we could shut down travel from affected countries, but...diversity! It's obvious the benefits of the multicultural enrichment that Black African countries provide is worth any risk.
2. No ground troops necessary, we can win this with air power alone.
3. The familiar claim that Libertarian candidates take the same amount of votes away from Democrats as from Republicans. As usual, no evidence will be provided.
1. Yes, you are right. Black Africans have already provided their most worth by picking our cotton.
2. Boots on the ground, we need boots on the ground!
3. You forgot to provide your evidence to the contrary, I'm sure that wasn't intentional and that you'll be posting it right now.
Yes, you are right. Black Africans have already provided their most worth by picking our cotton.
Crops rotting in the fields, or something.
You forgot to provide your evidence to the contrary, I'm sure that wasn't intentional and that you'll be posting it right now.
A far right-wing party takes more votes from a right-wing party than a left wing party. I thought that was "common sense."
I've attended meetings for the Libertarian(I was there to cause trouble, more or less), Democratic, and Republican parties. The Libertarians looked like the type of people I saw at the Republican meeting, not the Democrat meeting.
derp
How does one even define right-wing or left-wing?
If by right-wing he means traditional then he might have a point sense this country was founded on the ideas of limited government.
Nolan Chart
Liberals believe in personal freedom...right.
At one time they did.
When?
1962-2000
2000? You sure about that? Seems like the hate speech/PC crowd were going strong in the early 90's and guns 'r bad, 'mkay? since nearly forever.
Okay...1993
That's about right. The left pretended to somewhat in favor of personal freedom through the Reagan/Bush I era.
The founders did not believe in racial egalitarianism.
They also didn't believe in relativity, quantum mechanics, and speciation via natural selection. So?
How does one even define right-wing or left-wing?
In my short lifetime, Right Wing went from nationalistic reactionaries who considered anti-government attitudes to be the exclusive realm of hippie agitators and varios ne'r-do-wells whose distrust of authority was proof of their suspect morality.
Now those people who distrust authority, are skeptical of the drug war, believe the government should stay out of our relationships- be they business, personal/sex lives-- wish to roll back the War on drugs, are distrustful of constant foreign adventurism and interventions, and don't believe we should nor have a moral right to 'civilize' the rest of the world-- we're now the right wing.
I thinks it's Murikan.
93.7% probability at this point.
97% of all posters here agree. The science is settled.
He doubted the benefits of diversity, we can't have that.
It's not that he doubted the benefits of diversity. That's a reasonable topic. It's that it's Murikan and all of us here know him for being a bigot scumbag. We don't need or want that shit here.
a boring repetitive bigot scumbag. A feisty entertainging bigot scumbag would perhaps be tolerable, perhaps not, but at least worthy of a test drive.
He doubted the benefits of diversity, we can't have that.
Any country that mixed the races like crazy is tops with me.
Prediction: Hoops.
You know why Columbus day isn't a bigger deal in this country? Because nobody had the foresight to make it into a drinking holiday like St. Patrick's day.
A guy discovers the new world, and nobody gives a shit, but another guy chases all the snakes out of Ireland, and his holiday becomes a big deal because we can all drink Guinness and Jamesson's.
And beer with green food coloring in it, don't forget that.
Gun Show report
So I went the gun show on Saturday. I got my hand stamped for re-entry- The stamp was a 45. I didn't even know they made gun hand stamps. I saw a bunch of fat cops sitting around and not paying attention. I wandered around until this caught my eye. $590 later, it was mine.
I'm can't shoot it very accurately yet, but it sure is fun to practice. Plus it has no problem with cheap steel ammo. Yay!
Zastava- Built Serb Tough
That gun looks like it could shoot itself!
Then again, don't they all
/grabber
There is just something about an east block designed gun that just drives the gun grabbers crazy. It's like red shellac makes guns more evil or something.
I am sorely tempted to shoot it while dressed like this:
http://platedlizard.blogspot.c.....alive.html
I bet that would turn heads.
Do it!
I think a true progressive would be torn between you having a gun on one hand, and you being dressed as a poor oppressed minority from the Religion of Peace.
You would scare them more if you wore a trucker's hat, and a Nascar t-shirt.
Eh, I'm in Texas. Not many progs at the gun club.
You will never be able to shoot it accurately. It isn't made for that. Get some silhouette targets.
Practice making three shot bursts. Make your first shot hit the ground about ten feet in front of the target. If the angle is low enough it should bounce up to the target about waist level. The second should hit about knee/crotch level and the last upper chest/face level.
That is what it is made for.
I recall advice given to German machine gunners: aim between the legs and let the barrel climb.
So far, I've done my best by ignoring the sights and shooting from the hip.
"I recall advice given to German machine gunners: aim between the legs and let the barrel climb."
That is it alright. The Krauts had shmeissers in 9mm so they didn't climb as fast as yours. The rest had mounted guns....same thing.
Yours is a lot more firepower than a shmeisser.
Are you kidding? It's actually good shooting advice to count on ricochets hitting anything?
I am not kidding. Shooting full autos or fast bursts from semi-autos like that one....yeah. Start at the feet and draw a line up. You aren't really counting on the ricochet hitting the target, but you have a good chance of it. If you start aiming at the chest you might get one shot in but the majority will fly over the target.
Open bolts are a little different. On the first shot the bolt flying forward will push the muzzle down a bit so aim mid torso. The subsequent shots will raise the muzzle back up.
Personally I prefer accuracy with a lever or a semi auto....aim carefully and put every shot on target. It takes a lot of practice for fast target acquisition.
I do remember hearing that Thompson submachine gun users were taught to aim low and to the left, and expect the recoil to move the shots up and to the right. I believe it, having fired 50 rounds with one in Las Vegas. (Where I was pleasantly surprised to find Machine Guns Vegas.)
$590? Jesus, AKs have gotten expensive. Get an air rifle and/or .22 to practice shooting fundamentals and save that Wolf ammo for fun stuff like shooting steel.
Eh, a brand new one costs over $1000:
http://www.gandermountain.com/.....963&r=view
OK, that is 7.62x39, but more or less the same.
I have a .22, but I've had a hard time finding ammo. Steel ammo is cheap enough. Plus it can also shoot 5.56.
Figuring out how to shoot a new gun well is part of the fun for me.
And really, get the SBR paperwork together and put a stock on that thing so it starts being a weapon and stops being a toy.
It looks awfully small. And I just cut and pasted it into PAINT. It didn't cost me $590. I think you got taken!
Eh, the lowest I've seen online is $479. The $590 I paid includes $55 of tax, so I don't feel to bad.
Money is for spending.
< i The Independents needs a makeover. Kennedy should get a perm. Do women still get perms?
Sexist!
"Salon perm?"
"No, Ogilvie Home Perm!"
Matt should get a perm. Or Kmele.
Matt should get facial hair. Maybe Kmele can get a perm and be like the Super Fly of libertarianism.
I was thinking Jules Winnfield in Pulp Fiction, but I would vote for Super Fly
*Someone* certainly needs to start dropping some 'motherfuckers' on this show.
Black Dynamite for Kmele. When some sucka says he is not on the right side he would reply.
Let tell you something sucka, I am blacker than black. Blacker than the Ace of Spade, and when revolution comes, I will be on the frontline. Until then you need to shut the fuck up, cause grown folks is talking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4Ck7tJc9UA
They're going to have to put that spaniel down, too.
"Kmele, bail us out here before Taco Bell's attorneys get on the phone."
IT'S CAUSE THEY DON'T GET ENOUGH MONEY!!! SHEESH!
Leave Canada alone, Kennedy.
Why not, everyone else does. I mean, it's a frozen wasteland.
Not really a real country anyway.
Agreed, so that means the people there are not real people. Fuck this ISIS shit, let's attack Canada!
With their beady eyes...and flappin' heads.
+ a few acres of snow
+1 Social Contract
I agree. Close us off from all of Europe. Those people are all foreigners.
dirty foreigners
Only the german porn stars are dirty.
That's why they're my favorite!
Most of the Europians are retarded and the disease if worse than Ebola, so yeah, let's ban them.
Canadian ebola vaccine:
http://abcnews.go.com/Internat.....g-26159256
Is it a maple syrup derivative?
A maple syrup-poutine mix.
It's a mix of maple syrup and Moosehead beer, with a pinch of some frozen tundra and reindeer fur.
I mean, fuck, you think ebola could survive in Canada? Not even people and caribou can survive more than a few miles north of the US border.
No baby harp seal blood?
Well, that might increase the efficacy... let's try it!
Sarcasm, Kennedy? That's real helpful.
The makers of this documentary consider anti-Islamist protesters more dangerous than Islamic extremists:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ7XBvemE9w
Islamic extremists are dangerous. Too bad there is nothing that can be done about it.
But enough about Ebola, what do you think about deadly old white guys?
The patriarchy, satan manifest. If we can only get rid of white males, utopia will appear.
Bomb, bomb, bomb... bomb bomb Ebola.
Meanwhile, back in non-insane land:
"Israel has rejected a special request by the US and UN to send IDF field hospitals to Ebola hit Liberia and Sierra Leone. Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon, who rejected the request, cited the threat of infection to Israeli medical teams in explaining his decision."
http://www.ynetnews.com/articl.....46,00.html
Wait are you doubting the wisdom of sending soldiers to a plague ridden area, and then bringing them back here to be scattered to every corner of the country?
What could go wrong?
Would it be reasonable to quarantine them to base for 21 days after returning?
Yes but I don't trust the government not to fuck that up.
Is it reasonable to not send people to a shithole infested with a horrible disease involuntarily?
How about if we let volunteers go? I am sure you will pony right up.
Why because the fucking the fervently anti-Israel UN says something Israel must follow?
If Reagan could invent AIDS, why can't the GOP today invent Ebola?
I thought global warming caused Ebola.
The GOP took the long way around.
and just who do you think causes global warming, hmmmm?!
crap. I should know better than to try the layup on a FoE post. NOthing but defeat lies there.
It really is your own fault.
Global warming causes everything.
Except for those things which are evidence for it, which is everything.
Everything causes global warming and at the same time is evidence for it.
I thought everything caused global warming.
The actually really scary part about that is that today we actually have the technology to genetically engineer deadly viruses. In an extreme conspiracy type situation, a government could actually engineer a virus that would wipe out most of humanity while having the only antidote for it. Considering how truly evil governments are, I don't think it is totally out of the question they would do something like that, especially considering that many so called 'elite' academics actually recommend something like that.
I am a total tech advocate and don't think that anything should ever be done to restrain technology, but we are living in dangerous times right now, and we'll probably be lucky if we survive it considering the absolute evil that is in control of most of the worlds governments.
we actually have the technology to genetically engineer deadly viruses. In an extreme conspiracy type situation, a government could actually engineer a virus that would wipe out most of humanity while having the only antidote for it.
Did you watch Walking Dead season opener last night or something?
No. Was it good? Zombies are way overdone.
Without SPOILING MUCH, it was exciting. I expect it to settle into the usual season long drag, but as a continuation of last season's ending, it worked well for me. The zombies seem to have become more like story 'furniture'. There was a brief reference to 'the cure' that was somewhat related to your comment.
Of course it wasn't *good*, its the walking dead.
Why engineer when you've already got smallpox?
Smallpox is so like last millenia, dude.
Oldie but goody.
Why engineer when you've already got smallpox?
Duh, because they want one to kill everyone but [white people | Jews | yourchoicehere].
There's a rather good argument that SARS was a bio experiment by the PRC which got leaked - probably unintentionally. Hard to explain why it only hit people with Han Chinese genetics.
Uh, it *didn't* only hit the Han.
And it would be hard to explain why the Chinese would develop a weapon to only hit the Han who make up 90%+ of the population of mainland China and Taiwan.
There's no way that ad works on any who wasn't already voting Democrat.
I don't know, who doesn't like the idea of ebolaids?
Steelinz teh republken votzez!
Somewhat on-topic:
The KGB successfully spread rumors that the US government created AIDS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_INFEKTION
bobby bones? seriously?
THIS GUY STOLE KENNEDY'S GLASSES.
I have been punched in the peep.
OR, you can eat red meat and not be a fucking pussy.
Sounds like the right choice to me.
Why are libertarians making fun of drug busts???
What's her face is going to say this ad is disgusting but effective.
Welch's jacket looks like it has a hidden picture that will appear if you look at it from the right angle. It's practically flashing at me.
IS it telling you to kills someone?
It's telling you to buy a gun. Then the gun wakes you up in the middle of the night and instructs you to kill people.
It's a sailboat.
It's always a sailboat.
My political tweet was meant to take politics out of it, duh.
That sarcastic rant was more than 140 characters, Kennedy.
crISIS
Hey Matt - your blog at http://www.mattwelch.com/ is triggering 'reported attack page warnings' from Google.
Yeah, he's mentioned on Twitter that it's compromised and you shouldn't proceed to it.
I believe I alerted Mr. Welch to that like over a year ago.
I now believe its a ruse by the Illuminati.
They should do an entire episode on public transportation. I mean, physically broadcasting from a train or bus.
They'd have to get the coyote to move:
Portland
Foster is a contrarian.
Bullshit.
? I caught it in hut down in old Freetown
? Where you drink cheap beer and it tastes just like day old soda
? Ess-oh-dee-ay soda
? I went to the doctor and he took my temp
? I asked him what I had and he said "Ebola"
? Ee-bee-oh-el-ay Ebola! Bo bo bo bo Ebolaaaaa!
DON'T GANG UP ON THE PRETTY BLOND.
Loud noises.
i miss anything?
Welch's shiny jacket. Not shiny in the Firefly sense, shiny as in there is a hidden picture in it.
it isnt providing me the effect here
http://www.baqiworld.com/2011/.....ness-live/
oh look, gay jay. he sells weed now?
Yeah, see it's just more proof that all libertarians are stoners.
Not true- some of us are booze hounds.
This would actually be a good time for Kennedy to interrupt
Kennedy isn't interrupting. This would be one of those times she could start flapping her gums legit.
Gary's high.
Dude's always stoned.
Not only am I CEO, but a client.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fo.....a-company/
I voted for him, bitch.
The Ayatollah of Pakalolo
That was... short.
That guy's logic is tight.
AH! Lou Dobbs.
Derbz, I'm out.
GaJo is too good for the aftershow?
I learned recently that foreign cattle are quarantined for 21 days before being allowed in the US. This prevented hoof and mouth disease from reaching the US.
If only there was some other disease this precaution would be useful for...
And I bet you'd keep them in the holds of ships. You're the reanimated corpse of Columbus, aren't you?
Naw man - we all use ISO containers now. Pack 'em in the ISO's and you can airlift 'em, train 'em, even truck 'em to places best suited to concentrate them.
Bring back Ellis Island and Angel Island!
Are they still using that Canadian island for livestock quarantines?
Sounds like the guv would have been a good guest for the whole show.
I enjoy watching Welch ignore Kennedy when she pointlessly interrupts him.
Maybe if you didn't wear a t-shirt on national tv. Well, as close as Fox Biz gets.
Cutoff? I couldn't tell.
We really lost when GayJay didn't become the most powerful man in the free world.