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'But Nancy Pelosi is Still a Total C*nt': Gary Oldman Apologizes for Anti-Jewish Remarks in Playboy Interview

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As I noted yesterday, the great actor Gary Oldman recently outed himself as a libertarian in a Playboy interview.

That Oldman chose to do so immediately after ruminating on how unfair it is that he isn't allowed to call Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) "a cunt…a fucking useless cunt" is, well, what's the Italian phrase for comme ci comme ça again?

Oldman, who defended offensive outbursts by fellow rage-aholic thespians Mel Gibson and Alec Baldwin, also riffed on how that tribe that runs Hollywood, well, runs Hollywood:

Alec calling someone an F-A-G in the street while he's pissed off coming out of his building because they won't leave him alone. I don't blame him. So they persecute. Mel Gibson is in a town that's run by Jews and he said the wrong thing because he's actually bitten the hand that I guess has fed him—and doesn't need to feed him anymore because he's got enough dough. He's like an outcast, a leper, you know? But some Jewish guy in his office somewhere hasn't turned and said, "That fucking kraut" or "Fuck those Germans," whatever it is? We all hide and try to be so politically correct. That's what gets me. It's just the sheer hypocrisy of everyone, that we all stand on this thing going, "Isn't that shocking?" [smiles wryly] All right. Shall I stop talking now? What else can we discuss?

After public denunciations from the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and Simon Wiesenthal Center, Oldman has apologized thus:

I am deeply remorseful that comments I recently made in the Playboy Interview were offensive to many Jewish people. Upon reading my comments in print—I see how insensitive they may be, and how they may indeed contribute to the furtherance of a false stereotype. Anything that contributes to this stereotype is unacceptable, including my own words on the matter. If, during the interview, I had been asked to elaborate on this point I would have pointed out that I had just finished reading Neal Gabler's superb book about the Jews and Hollywood, An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews invented Hollywood. The fact is that our business, and my own career specifically, owes an enormous debt to that contribution.

I hope you will know that this apology is heartfelt, genuine, and that I have an enormous personal affinity for the Jewish people in general, and those specifically in my life. The Jewish People, persecuted thorough the ages, are the first to hear God's voice, and surely are the chosen people.

I would like to sign off with "Shalom Aleichem"—but under the circumstances, perhaps today I lose the right to use that phrase, so I will wish you all peace–Gary Oldman.

More here (and all thanks to Alan Vanneman, whose latest books, Author! Author! and Vorak of Kolnap, are damn good reads).

The special-pleading half of me that is half-dago (in a Joe DiMaggio sort of way) feels a need to say: Wait, but Nancy Pelosi is still a cunt? 

I get it, the Last Acceptable Prejudice™ is slagging prominent Italian Americans (whether they are objectively awful politicians is a separate matter). You never have to apologize for making fun of the spicy-meatball crowd. Where's Joe Columbo, the mafiaoso who started the Italian-American Civil Rights League in 1970, when you need him? Oh, that's right: He was fatally shot at close range by another goombah at the group's second annual rally protesting negative media portrayals of Italian Americans.

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  1. Fuck all the crybabies he should not have apologized for shit.

    1. Couldn’t agree more.

      (disclaimer: I am a Jew and a Zionist)

      1. Jew, not a Zionist, and second – no apologies necessary. I went into a bar with a doctor friend of mine and we started cracking up. That’s a joke waiting to happen.

        1. FYI

          All you Jews are doing a terrible job ruling the world.

          -2.9% GDP guys….fix that shit already.

  2. Just a clarification: did he actually say something that was actually anti-semetic?

    1. I mean, is it any more prejudiced than someone claiming that America is run by white people?

      1. It is? Obama and Holder will be surprised.

    2. Just a clarification: did he actually say something that was actually anti-semetic?

      Fucking Nazis amiright?

      1. They weren’t Nazis, Walter!

    3. Mel Gibson is in a town that’s run by Jews and he said the wrong thing because he’s actually bitten the hand that I guess has fed him?and doesn’t need to feed him anymore because he’s got enough dough.

      A completely unnecessarily part of the statement, especially the Jews run Hollywood bit. And frankly of all the PC stuff to fight Mel Gibson is one of the least deserving of defense. I mean, he actually is a racist.

      1. I mean, he actually is a racist.

        I don’t keep up with Mel, so forgive me but, racist as in “criminally racist” or racist as in “he says an thinks things I or most people don’t like”?

        I was under the impression that his racism was marginally different than any other form of eccentrism.

        1. Based on his remarks, not just in the traffic stop, but in the recordings that got leaked, it’s likely that Gibson holds several racist views, which makes him a “racist”, I guess.

          As Oldman pointed out, though, that doesn’t mean that he wasn’t able to get along with the people he didn’t like, or that their partnerships with him weren’t productive. He was remarking that he thought it was ridiculous that they would throw away a productive partnership just because Gibson has a lot of views they don’t like that he usually won’t air.

          1. The recordings that were leaked were also staged by his gold-digging Russian wife where she baited him, knowing his anger and likely his drunkenness at the moment. I’m not sure that reveals him a firebrand racist the way some have labeled him. Nothing he said is much worse than the words a majority of people will say during a road-rage incident.

    4. did he actually say something that was actually anti-semetic?

      No. Tone-deaf? Yes. Impolitic? Definitely.

      I completely get his point of what he was saying, but I have no doubt that it will fly far, far above the heads of 90% of the people reading the interview.

      HE RACIST, YO.

      1. You’re right. That’s largely because:

        a) most of the people who get offended by this sort of thing are lazy and will never bother to read the article since someone has already told them they should be offended by it,

        b) the ability to read for comprehension has dramatically deteriorated, thanks to our shitty public education system, and

        c) Oldman came out as not-liberal, so he of course must be racist and therefore must be crushed.

    5. Oldman didn’t say something that was anti-Semitic as far as I could tell. He said that the Jews run Hollywood (which anti-Semites do claim in their conspiracy theories), but there are a lot of Jewish people in positions of power in Hollywood and have been since its founding. It was poorly phrased, but I think he was just calling attention to a fact…and noting that they have their own prejudices (the same prejudices Jewish friends of mine have also expressed).

      Basically, not anti-Semitic, just an off-the-cuff remark that could easily be misinterpreted due to phrasing. The interviewer apparently didn’t take it as anti-Semitic because he didn’t even remark on it or follow up on it.

      1. If you read the interview (which is excellent, by the way), I think it’s pretty clear what he meant.

  3. WOP’s up? How’s your dago?

    1. I am reminded of the joke they used to tell in Jr. High School: “Have you heard about the new, improved Italian tires? Dago through rain, dago through snow, and when dago flat, dago ‘WOP, WOP, WOP.'” Ah, the classics! I haven’t thought about that one in years!

      1. My wife’s grandfather had official union documentation (carrying card) that identified him as Jimmy the WOP.

      2. How do you find out where an Italian drowned? Look for the oil slick.

        Disclaimer: I married a Sicilian. I will wake up dead one of these if I keep telling that joke.

    2. In Rocky 4 when he is dropped at the snowy cabin, the Russians explain that two “chaperones” will be with him at all times. The guy with smiling contempt looks him in the eyes and (in thick Russian) says, “Where you go, DAGO! [they go]”

      Have no idea if intentional, but as part meatball, myself, I laughed.

  4. Somebody forgot that Congress and Hollywood are tight, and that being tarred as anti-semitic is the fastest way to get blackballed.

  5. I almost convinced myself his apology was tongue in cheek…

    I have an enormous personal affinity for the Jewish people in general, and those specifically in my life. The Jewish People, persecuted thorough the ages, are the first to hear God’s voice, and surely are the chosen people.

    Some of my best friends…are better than the rest of you.

    Also, did I mention there is a book that says Jews Invented Hollywood?

    1. The strange wording of Oldman’s apology makes me wonder: If we arranged the lines of text properly, could we read down the left side of the page and see that he emulated Governor Schwarzenegger’s famous veto letter to Tom Ammiano?

  6. Funny thing about stereotypes, there is usually some truth to them. I like Gary Oldman even more now.

    1. Heh. Stereotypes don’t exist for no reason.

  7. More here (and all thanks to Alan Vanneman, whose latest books, Author! Author! and Vorak of Kolnap, are damn good reads).

    Do the books include off-beat (meaning: completely meaningless) comments about libertarianism?

    1. and all thanks to Alan Vanneman, whose latest books, Author! Author! and Vorak of Kolnap, are damn good reads

      Absolutely unpossible.

  8. I guess I understand the offense at his choice of words, but were those really his words. I thought he was just defending Gibson’s right to be a pissed off human being. He was trying to say that Gibson was irrational but one outburst doesn’t mean Gibson is evil.

  9. I had just finished reading Neal Gabler’s superb book about the Jews and Hollywood, An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews invented Hollywood.

    “So technically I am right, you fucking cunts! But I still apologize for my remarks.”

    Gotta love the guy! He makes an apology sound like apologia.

    Good show, Gary! Good show!

  10. The Jewish People, persecuted thorough the ages, are the first to hear God’s voice, and surely are the chosen people.

    Okay, I’m spending way too much time trying to figure out why he chose that particular line here.

    1. He’s trolling.

      1. And it’s awesome.

        1. Definitely.

    2. So, I’m not the only one who read his apology that way either.

  11. But some Jewish guy in his office somewhere hasn’t turned and said, “That fucking kraut” or “Fuck those Germans,” whatever it is?

    This reminds me of a guy I knew in college (’70s) who told me his father would never buy a German car, because HITLER. I thought to myself, “Huh. Okay.”

    1. My parents as well. When they went to Israel, they were stunned to see all the VWs and Mercedes.

    2. An old Filipino coworker of mine absolutely refuses to have anything to do with sushi, Honda, Toyota, Sony, or anything else that is Japanese because of what happened during WWII. He’s 35, so it’s not like he remembers any of it.

      1. There’s a certain brand (I can’t recall) that my father won’t buy because he says they built the planes that bombed Pearl Harbor. Note that my father was born 9 years after Pearl Harbor. I don’t know if it’s true or not, but it hardly seems relevant now.

        1. You’re thinking of Mistubishi. They built the Zero.

    3. I will never buy an American car, because terrible.

    4. I had a good friend I worked with who was Jewish (and born in Ukraine) who refused to frequent any German businesses or buy any German goods and was open about her dislike of German people.

      She admitted that it was about the Holocaust and that it was perhaps irrationally extreme, but said that she had no interest in changing her views. We had to take trips to Germany occasionally for our work and she was still professional and courteous to them, just like anyone else.

  12. That photo of Pelosi gives me the creeps. She looks like a cartoon supervillainess. “Decuntstructor” maybe?

    1. The Black Cuntessa.

  13. Oh, my. Look at the author pic on the Vorak of Kolnap page. I had no idea that Vanneman was the pen name of Angus Scrimm.

    For those too afraid to click my links, I present to you the synopsis for Vorak of Kolnap:

    A World of Mung: That’s what they called Kolnap, a sorry sack of methane mush, the least glorious posting in the entire Nardan Confederation, a good thirty years’ freeze from the nearest “civilized” planet.

    Careers were lost on Kolnap, not made, until one cockroach had the courage to make a difference, had the abdomen to stand up and join claws across the species, daring the embrace of the temptress grasshopper Nayluu and building an alliance with his ant sergeant, Orkan. Together they rewrote the history of Kolnap, a history forged in the soul of the roach of roaches, the roach they called “Vorak of Kolnap”.

    1. Some Reviews of his Holmes fanfic…

    2. Vanneman cuts his own hair in the mirror.

    3. “A Cadet shall display his antennae in a uniform manner,” he repeated softly to himself. Outside he could hear the scurrying of dozens of pairs of feet in the hallway. But he still had a few minutes. The antennae had to form a tight, efficient arc of 270 degrees, which allowed them to hang straight down, parallel to but not touching the exterior wings. Proper curvature brought the tips of the antennae even with the posterior spiracles. Throughout their descent, the antennae maintained a constant distance of thirteen inches.

      Vorak’s antennae did not have efficient curvature. They did not hang straight down. Their ends were not even with his abdomen. And they did not maintain a constant distance of thirteen inches. Patiently, Vorak smoothed his antennae with his front fore-claws to achieve the correct curvature. Eighteen passes. Nineteen. Twenty. They still bulged forward, upward, and then back in a maddening manner. Kolmar could put his antennae in order with five passes. Makan could do it in seven. The unit average was eleven. Even Momat and Kaynin could do it in seventeen. What the vart was the matter with him?

      1. Vorak’s antennae did not have efficient curvature. They did not hang straight down.

        What part of “hanging straight down” involves curvature, efficient or not?

        1. Are we positive Tulpa’s not Vanneman? Semi-srs.

          “Cadets dismissed!” shouted Makan. He spun on a lower fore-claw and strode off, antennae and abdomen perfectly aligned. Vorak swallowed the last of the library paste and rose from his chair. He handed in his tray and double-timed back to barracks, clenching his mandibles so hard they crossed. Let Makan harass him all he liked. He wouldn’t be intimidated, and he wouldn’t be starved. This roach was sticking till he hanged.

          “You’re slug meat, Vorak,” snarled Makan.

          “What do you mean?” Vorak’s voice was shaking.

          “You’re going down, roach. No one horfs over me in Calc class like that.”

          “You should know the equations.”

          “Cut the marp. You know the code. You’re slug meat.”

          Makan stalked off. Once more, Vorak noted bitterly, his antennae and abdomen were in perfect alignment. The horfing Cadet Code — never horf another Cadet. Well, they horfed him every horfing day. It wasn’t his fault if Makan didn’t know a differential from a doorstop.

          1. Tulpa has never horfed in his life. That’s a big part of his problem.

    4. A World of Mung

      Isn’t mung a creampie in a corpse? Or am I mixing my terms? Urban dictionary is blocked at work.

  14. Damn Nick, just spell the fucking word: cunt.

    1. Ken must be stroking out by now.

      1. I forgot about that. Classic.

    2. “You are a real boring fuck. Sorry, sorry, I know you disapprove of swearing so I’ll sort that out. You are a boring F, star, star, CUNT!”

  15. Obama and Holder will be surprised.

    They are just puppets.

    BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH’s marionettes.

    1. Oh. Of course.

      That explains how everything is still his fault, if he’s actually still in charge.

  16. Joe Colombo (o, not Peter Falk) was shot but not killed in 1971. He lived severely paralyzed until 1978, when he died of heart failure at age 54. Blame it on the spicy meatballs.

  17. The special-pleading half of me that is half-dago (in a Joe DiMaggio sort of way) feels a need to say: Wait, but Nancy Pelosi is still a cunt?

    Nick, it’s worth noting that calling Pelosi a cunt isn’t racism against Italians because it’s not premised on her being Italian nor is it directed broadly at Italians as a group. It merely singles out one person coincidentally of Italian descent for being a cunt independent of her ethnic identity.

    The Jew thing, which I don’t actually consider racist/anti-semetic myself, was a statement about a group of people and therefore can be considered in some overly sensitive and irrational corners, a slight against the tribe.

  18. The end of the article so reminds me of Tom Lehrer’s “National Brotherhood Week”. In the intro, he points out that on the first day of the week, Malcolm X was killed, which gives you an idea of how effective the whole thing is.

  19. Dude was definitely tip-toeing around the offensive, but I’ve read his comments now, twice, and I don’t see anything particularly antisemitic about them.

    He’s railing about political correctness, and merely defended the notion that people say offensive things, and ruminated on whether anyone Jewish probably says offensive things too.

  20. Jesus was a Jew. But he’s much better now.

    Epic alt-text.

  21. I used to work with Germans quite frequently. Because of my last name, they would often ask me if my family was from Germany.

    My reply would be “Yes, my grandfather died at Auschwitz”.

    There would be lots of looking at the floor…mumbled apologies…lack of eye contact.

    Then I’d finish with “He got drunk and fell out of a guard tower”.

    The looks on their faces were priceless.

  22. Oh, come on. Calling Nancy Pelosi a cunt has nothing to do with her being Italian-American, it has to do with her being a fucking cunt-faced whorebag shit-gargling cum-dumpster.

    Honestly, I’d never have known she was of Italian descent, and if you’d asked me her hyphenation status, I’d have said she was a Cunt-American.

  23. His best role ever: Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW9suGUySvQ

    1. Even if he hates it.

  24. Might want to read that apology again. Very subtle but I’m seeing a lot of backhanded sarcasm:

    “If, during the interview, I had been asked to elaborate on this point I would have pointed out that I had just finished reading Neal Gabler’s superb book about the Jews and Hollywood, An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews invented Hollywood.”

    “The Jewish People, persecuted thorough the ages, are the first to hear God’s voice, and surely are the chosen people.”

    This is actually brilliant.

  25. Hollywood isn’t run by Jews. And the Emperor has a lovely new outfit.

    Who runs Hollywood? C’mon
    December 19, 2008|JOEL STEIN (Jewish)

    http://articles.latimes.com/20…..oe-stein19

    Posted by David Kramer (Jewish)

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