The Independents

Tonight on The Independents: Red Meat Wednesday, With Nick Gillespie, Johan Norberg, John Stossel, and Two Minutes Hate!

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Tonight at 9 p.m. ET (6 p.m. PT), as per tradition, The Independents will be serving up Red Meat Wednesday on Fox Business Network, starting off with the Supreme Court decision that's turning your Twitter feed into a demonstration of schizophrenia, McCutcheon v. Federal Election Commission. On to discuss what lifting the caps of aggregated individual contributions to federal candidates and political action committees means in the English language, let alone for the future of democracy herself, are Party Panelists Nick "Nick" Gillespie and Jehmu "Define American" Greene. The duo will also take circuitous routes to such stories as the Boy Scouts bouncing a gay troop leader, a Kansas high school inviting only black kids to the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum, and Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) saying that the Republican Party needs to get "beyond deportation."

Beloved Fox Business hero John Stossel will talk about his upcoming special on gambling hypocrisy; beloved Swedish person Johan Norberg will talk about how income inequality can be reflective of good economic indicators, and the show's three co-hosts will spend some time unloading on Director of National Intelligence James Clapper. And yes, back by unpopular demand is Two Minutes Hate, which I'm betting early might contain some material from last night's hostile open thread….

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  1. INDEPENDENTS INTERMINGLE!

    1. God suddenly appeared before me. Nonplussed by my ‘you’re a clown’ frightened screams he nevertheless lifted my tuque and whispered in my ear (the good one),

      “You. ARE. Canadian!”

      1. Same story except I wear a Barmah and he whispered in my bad ear. I heard, “You.ARE.a.Virgin!”
        “Again? Really!”
        Switching ears and enunciating clearly,
        “No, I said I’m Vlad, and you are a Virginian!”

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  2. Also, Welchy-Poo, please do me a favor and try to work in a discussion about Miguel Cabrera’s fantasy beisbol trade value. He is a disappointment so far.

    1. He’ll do fine.

      1. How about Jose “First AB of the season=pulled hammy” Reyes?

        A wise choice, that.

        1. Clayton Kershaw, the $216 million dollar man, won’t likely pitch until June.

  3. I made the mistake of opening Jehmu Greene’s twitter feed and I now have to clean up after violently projectile vomiting for approximately one and a half minutes. The emesis primarily consisted of the expulsion of mucus, chyme, and blood.

    1. Good Lord. I hope Nick and Kmele aren’t afraid to be aggressive in rebutting her points.

  4. Has Francisco d Anconia mentioned he likes Stossel?

      1. Francisco, I like that you like Stossel.

        1. I’m getting out of here before the hairy man love starts…

  5. And yes, back by unpopular demand is Two Minutes Hate, which I’m betting early might contain some material from last night’s hostile open thread….

    The best hate was from Monday’s thread about your choice of outfit, Matt.

    1. It wasn’t very P.C. though.

  6. I dunno – I like the open thread, but I find the show to be “meh”. But two minutes of hate…AKA “GILMORE and Epi Get All The Luvz”

    1. GILMORE is the golden boy because of his fashion critiques. But Epi got shut out last time.

  7. Well, the good news is, they shouldn’t have too much trouble putting together a better show than last night’s.

    1. It sounded like you were ready to throw in the towel…
      Both on the show and HnR.

  8. Anither shooting at Fort Hood? I’ll bet it was one of those damn Mennonites again!

    1. Goddamned bitter clingers and their assault weapons

      1. They’ll get my assault keyboard when they pry it from my cold, literate fingers!

    2. News reports identifies the shooter as 34 year old Ivan Lopez. And a local Congressman says 4 were killed in the incident.

      http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fo…..-reported/

      1. Ivan…so the RUSSIANS!

        Bill Kristol was right.

        1. Ivan LOPEZ – so a WHITE Russian. Hispanic.

          1. A white Russian made with tequila?

            1. Ay, carumba….slovich.

      2. With a name like that, you know he’s a pro-Bush, pro Iraq War, antigovernment TEA Party member for sure.

        1. “Natural conservatives.”

        2. LOL, you not-so-subtly insinuate that the shooter must be Muslim, and then when that turns out to not be the case (well, I suppose it’s possible, but Islam is not a very common religion among Latinos and the article says it was over a dispute, not terrorism) you mock others for jumping to conclusions. LMAO

          1. Yeah, I was really disappointed that he wasn’t a white Christian. With all these Blacks, Mexicans, and Muslims as shooters and terrorists I’m afraid people might start noticing a pattern.

            1. Are you Mike M’s sock puppet? I wasn’t talking to you

              1. That’s what you say when you can’t refute my point.

                1. Refute what? I was pointing out Mike M’s hypocrisy, I wasn’t making an argument about mass shooters

                  1. How was he hypocritical? He was mocking the logic of the liberal man, who thinks it’s just as likely that a terrorist attack was perpetrated by a Methodist as by a Muslim, by a White conservative as a Mexican immigrant.

                    And btw, did you know that half of the FBI’s ten most wanted list is Hispanic? Our country obviously needs more of these people.

                    1. Don’t be obtuse, his point was not just about Methodists. He was attacking the left for jumping to conclusions and desperately wanting mass killers to be white Christians. He does the exact same thing, just with Muslims. And although Muslims are more likely to commit terrorism, there are still far more white non-Muslim mass murderers, because they far outnumber Muslims. He was implying the shooter must be Muslim, and he was (in all likelihood) wrong.

                      “by a White conservative as a Mexican immigrant.”

                      First off, I’m unaware where it said that Ivan Lopez is an immigrant. Secondly, white men are actually a lot more likely to be the perpetrator of a mass shooting. 68% of mass shooters since 1982 (up until Sandy Hook) have been white, while 5% have been Hispanic. Even adjusting for the difference in population size, white men stack up unfavorably.

                      http://www.the-broad-side.com/…..n-violence

                      Oh, and hi American

                    2. because they far outnumber Muslims.

                      Good thing people like you are trying to change that.

                    3. Good thing people like you are trying to change that.

                      I’m really trying to figure out how anyone at Reason is ‘trying’ to change the percentage of Americans who are Muslim.

                    4. It’s a real headscratcher ain’t it?

                    5. Typical and pathetic. Out of that entire post that refutes your idiocy, you pick out a red herring?

                    6. Is my red herring an accurate description of your views or not? I addressed the mass shooting crap in my other comment.

              1. How could any of the three be lizard people? That makes no sense.

          2. You’re the one jumping to conclusions, sunshine. Mike M. made a joke about Mennonites.

            -jcr

      3. It said that he acted alone and took his own life.

        Call me crazy, but these “multiple shooter” theories are so that the cops get to play G.I. Joe for a few extra hours and point guns at innocent people who are already traumatized.

        1. There may have been some canine accomplices. Best kill em all to be safe.

      4. I predict that, regardless of his shade, he is now and forever white.

        (easy money, I know)

        1. It’s already established precedent to refer to Hispanic criminals as “White:”

          http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cj…..rtbl03.xls

          1. It generally does in most reports, because Hispanic is not a race, and so most who aren’t black or Asian get put in the white category. It isn’t even inaccurate for many Hispanics. Most Cuban-Americans are white, for example. And it’s not that hard to get that data.

            http://www.the-broad-side.com/…..n-violence

            1. I’m sure Hispanic isn’t counted when determining college admissions….

              It’s telling that Asian men commit mass shootings at much higher rate than their share of the population, even though they commit ordinary murder at much lower rates. Probably it is the way they define “mass shootings,” it appears you have to kill four people to make the list. Attempts don’t count.

              1. WTF does that have to do with anything? You really are a pathetic, bitter person Merkin. At this point I can’t do much more than laugh at you.

                Most murders aren’t mass shootings, and most attempted murders aren’t attempted mass shootings.

                1. No, but you see a lot more headlines like “1 dead, 14 injured in mass shooting,” than you see for larger numbers of dead. It isn’t as easy to kill people in that fashion as people tend to think. It takes skill. What does this have to do with Asians? I’ll let you figure that out.

                  1. Really?

                    LOL, Asians commit more mass shootings because they’re smarter? Keep trying to shoehorn that hobbyhorse of yours. When data contradicts your delusions, it must actually confirm your other beliefs!

                    1. Can you give me a politically correct reason for the difference between the percentage of “mass shooters” who are Asian and the percentage of ordinary murderers?

                1. You can lecture Cali on that, he is the one who cited it as a reliable source to support his open borders agenda.

                2. I used this list, where n=62 and 6 were Asian:

                  http://www.motherjones.com/pol…..-full-data

                  True, the data should be looked at critically because of the very low sample size, but ask yourself about any random group of sixty two murderers, what is the chance that six or more would be Asian?

    3. 1 dead, 14 injured. Nice job training him.

      1. Has an interesting beat, but I can’t really dance to it.

      1. Is that some sort of South Africa thing?

      2. Geez, the Palis can’t even do “false flag” right.

        I guess Europe falling for Pallywood hook, line, and sinker made them overconfident.

        1. Well, it IS Europe…

        2. The Head Eskimo had this to say about the Palefaces:

          “The sole purpose of Palefaces is to serve Eskimos…Why are Palefaces needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat. That is why Palefaces were created.”

          I’m sure that’s a false flag too or whatever.

          1. I won’t engage you until you stop being a fucking pussy and type the word “Jew”.

            1. I don’t want to appear to be antisemitic.

              1. So you admit that you’re a coward.

                How does it feel to have other men fuck your wife?

                1. HM…WTF did I step into?

                  1. Mary goo.

                    You stepped in Mary goo.

                    1. EWWWW!!!

                      Disgusting shit…

                2. Says the guy who is hiding behind a pseudonymous internet name. I’m sure you are so open about your politics in real life.

                  1. My pseudonymous internet name is to protect my family and myself from sexually frustrated, violent psychopaths like you.

                    And you still haven’t answered my question; how does it feel to have other men fuck your wife? Are you ashamed? Or do you feel a transgressive thrill? Do you watch them as they sexually penetrate her vagina, mouth or anus? Does she look you in the eyes as they enter her?

                    1. Funny how liberals never come to that same conclusion. Only libertarians are afraid of internet trolls. But are you open about your politics in real life? Probably not, you need to appear “respectable” to SWPLs and loyal to your race.

                      What strange fantasies Black men have….

                    2. It took you an hour to think of a comeback?

                      But are you open about your politics in real life?

                      I’ll answer your question when you answer mine.

                      Probably not, you need to appear “respectable” to SWPLs

                      Don’t speculate about me, you piece of shit coward. You’re hilariously, wrong, by the way.

                      and loyal to your race

                      .

                      And what, pray tell, would my race be, coward?

                      Black men

                      Oh, you’re a one-dropper? You fucking moron. Do you deny astronomy as well as genetics and believe the Sun rotates around the Earth?

                      You’re a coward and a moron. That’s why your wife sleeps around. You haven’t denied it, cuckold. Prove me wrong, coward.

                    3. I assure you my Black friend, I am a happily married father of two. You are Black, aren’t you?

                    4. God you are a vile fucking cunt

                    5. Please express my sincere sympathy to your two microcephalic mongoloids.

                      And define “Black”.

                    6. I don’t know your exact racial pedigree but you have identified yourself as Black in the past.

                    7. you have identified yourself as Black in the past.

                      Have a cite on that?

                    8. There is your name. Mulatto=Black for me just as it is for most of the population.

            2. I must have missed his arrival. Is Tuckurt American or some other idiot?

              1. ^Look above, it’s Murican

                1. It’s obviously American.

          2. And I thought the idea of molecularly altering one drug into another was funny!

    1. Well, since JOOOOZ can’t buy heroin from the Afghans like everybody else in the world, they had to invent the amazing cannabis to poppy transformation technology.

      -jcr

  9. Awww, man. I’m going to miss the Two Minutes Hate tonight. Someone here is in charge of telling me what transpires — I’ll let you decide amongst yourselves.

    1. You already know who I chose. He got a hat tip today, you know.

      1. I’m going to miss half the episode because I’ll be stuck on the freeways coming home.

        1. You made the mistake of living in OC (although I’ll be there next week or two since I gotta pick up my preservation society bottles at the Bruery).

          1. It’s fine, although right now I’ve got nothing to do but sit in Langson library with my laptop on my most nights I can just stay and do homework while waiting for the traffic to die down.

            Plus there’s always the pub if I want a beer while waiting, but I don’t right now after spending $1200 on the class. Maybe next week after payday.

            1. Yeah, thanks for the invite, ya arse!

    2. Having no cable and having never seen the show, can I ask what this high demand two minutes of hate segment is?

      1. Well it made me famous, so I’m probably a little too biased to answer.

        1. I missed that. What was your comment?

          1. IIRC she said her mother agreed with everything Kmele said but still vocalized a dislike/distrust of him.

      2. Basically they bring out their human resources director (who has a hilarious deadpan delivery) and have him read out angry Tweets, emails, and comments from these Hit & Run thread about the show and its hosts.

        So it’s a competition, pretty much.

        1. Us east coast people have to sleep. I wish they would sample the morning links as well.

        2. Dear God. I hope they never do it with me. If anyone the NSA ever heard the things I’d do to Kennedy, I’m fairly sure they’d send a SWAT team over to Jack Ruby me.

          1. Let me guess. You covet her earrings.

          2. If anyone the NSA ever heard the things I’d do to Kennedy, I’m fairly sure they’d send a SWAT team over to Jack Ruby me.

            You’d convince her to convert to radical Islam and martyr herself in a suicide bombing at the Fox News studios?

  10. “some material from last night’s hostile open thread….”

    Bend over, I’ll show you hostile.

    1. Sure, Hoss Style, dog style, indian style, … you name it.

      Oh dear!

      No deer! Ass too high, run too fast!

  11. Freerange rant:

    Know what I find funny? Canada is considered left-wing (and it is) but it doesn’t seem as out of its mind as America. For example, you can still idle your car while you sleep unlike NY. Our government doesn’t tax its citizens living out the country. We have lower drinking age laws; well in Quebec anyway where everything is more hedonistic than the rest of pansy white Canada. You drone on about race to the point of being insufferable manifesting itself on declaring war on words (forget the war on poverty and drugs; the war on words is frightening) like demanding a private enterprise like the Washington Redskins change its name. Meanwhile, up here we still have the Edmonton Eskimos; a term the Dene have changed. Yet, no one in the media goes nuts about it.

    Of course, I cherry pick and Mr. Mark Steyn faces other atrocious affront on liberty like the HRC and Quebec still has some of the most regressive (and racist) linguistic laws on its books.

    Still. America and Canada share a lot of similar traits in many ways when it comes to its uncomfortable existence with the concept of liberty.

    1. Give it time, give it time…

    2. We’re kinda like cousins who witness each others’ odd masturbating rituals.

      Repulsed, but, hey-we’re still family

    3. Know what I find funny? Canada is considered left-wing (and it is) but it doesn’t seem as out of its mind as America.

      Canada is noticeably freer than America at this point. If Canada is left-wing, I don’t know what the fuck you’d call California. If Canada is left-wing, California must be run by Maoists.

      1. California must be run by Maoists.

        I’m not sure exactly what flavor of commie rat bastards they are, but they sure love interfering with anyone trying to make a buck.

        Some poor lady spent more than a year just trying to get the thugs permission to open an ice cream store in San Francisco.

        -jcr

  12. I’ve been thinking about tacos since the PM links.

    1. Taco salad for dinner tonight. I’m so close. But the pregnant wife gets what she wants for dinner.

      1. You have any carne asada recipes? It should be nice this weekend and I might take out the grill.

        1. I have several. Depends on the quality of the cut of meat you buy. I have a recipes for wet marinade, dry rub, fajitas style, and wet mop…

          1. Something with easily obtained ingredients. There aren’t a lot of Mexican grocery stores around here.

            1. Start with USDA Choice skirt steak. Season with salt, white pepper, cumin, oregano, and ancho chili powder. Grill on high heat, about 3 min per side or longer if it is thick. Pull from the grill, brush one side with fresh lime juice mixed with a minced clove of fresh garlic. Cover with foil, and let it sit for 5-10 minutes. Slice across the grain, and serve with caramelized yellow onion and warm tortillas.

              1. Perfect, thanks.

  13. Okay, time for the great battle of Serious Man vs the 405.

    1. The 405 always wins.

      But hey, at least you’re just dealing with the OC 405. West L.A. 405 is the seventh layer of hell.

  14. So today one of my roommates had a friend over. She’s definitely attractive and has a sunny personality. But what really got me paying attention is the angry rant she went into about a sociology class she’s taking to fill some requirements and how the professor and readings don’t believe in human agency at all (e.g. “fat shaming”). I’d taken the class before and we ended up talking about some paper and she mentions that she only writes about feminism when she’s BSing because she hates the topic.

    Then I remember my main social circle and how it’s mostly overly political and paternalistic liberals and, if female, self-identified feminists. I never thought that physics majors would have a better dating pool than the social sciences but that’s what she is and, in terms of quality if not quantity, they’re already ahead.

    1. Tap that, bro.

    2. Make your move. Do not hesitate. This is your chance for a sane woman.

    3. An attractive girl in hard sciences? Get her, Ray!

    4. As your name attests, you’d be one not to.

      The odds don’t improve in that scenario as you get older.

    5. Make a move. Sooner rather than later. You probably won’t get a chance like this again.

    6. Dunno why everyone says “make a move.” Waving is making a move. Get the grabby hands. The sooner you push for sex the better. Also ball gags. Bitches love ball gags.

      1. Fuck it, just whip it out next time you see her!

        /sarc

        I thought it was smiley faces?

        1. A real Alpha would whip it out and then neg her by not getting a boner.

          1. That’s called Cocaine Alpha

  15. No way am I watching this again, tonight. NO WAY!

      1. I don’t think any of us would have noticed had you not mentioned it…

        1. I have high standards.

          My familyroom laptop just shit the bed and I had to bring in the primary. Doesn’t boot very fast, used the phone, fucked it up.

          *hangs head, not a pressure player*

          1. OMG, is your real name Lin Elliot?*

            *do not answer yes to this question if you value your life.

  16. From Florida, but I don’t think it is Florida man. Do you think Florida man would apologize for what he did here?

    1. All these orders, I don’t like the sound of this one bit.

    2. Cavutodonts are extinct, like the Reidasaur.

  17. OT and from a liberal – but still kinda funny

    https://medium.com/the-nib/a453d1377807

  18. I spent most of my afternoon arguing libertarian principles with the biggest bunch of statist authoritarian boot lickers to ever assemble in one place at the same moment.

    Now, where the fuck is my free pony?

    1. Free pony? There is no free ponies in Libertopia, slaver.

      1. Of course, in my confused state, after the extreme ordeal I have been exposed to, I meant to say ‘my 12 free orphan slave monocle polishers’.

        1. There are only seven left. The other five died of fatigue. We let the seven survivors eat their corpses. Now two of them have dysyntery.

    2. We used to have free range ones but teh evil landlordz corralled them all for private use. Now we must gallop around clapping coconuts together.

      1. Oh and how they did gambol across the plains.

      2. Aren’t there still wild ponies on Assateague Island?

        1. Yes, I saw them. They eat salty red grass, and we have to save them.

  19. How not to get caught by the cops

    When Sgt. Darryl Mallard arrived at the scene of Mary Greco’s murder, he saw a blanket that her killer had draped over the retired nun’s body. He noticed coffee mugs and glassware in the kitchen of her Stanford Street home. The veteran cop spotted something in the bathroom.

    The toilet seat was up.

    The 82-year-old woman lived alone. Perhaps, Mallard hypothesized, the killer was a man who also used her bathroom.

  20. Prediction: Hoops. And another freakshow.

    1. You got one. Congrats.

    2. Hoops. Fuck.

  21. Ye Gads, Cavuto. Have I not suffered enough today for the cause of liberty?

  22. Those earrings are from Kennedy’s amateur magic act.

  23. The Full Kmele. This is now a phrase.

    1. Full Frontal Kmele?

    2. Never go Full Kmele.

  24. It’s leather jacket weather, apparently.

    1. The jacket is just wearing Gillespie for the show.

  25. OMG, it’s THE JACKET!

  26. As long as the caps aren’t arbitrary.

  27. Wow, look at the new and more stylish Mattster.

    See, he’s somewhere in between bow tie and pink shirt/vest stage.

  28. Jesus Gillespie, stop moving your hands so much while you talk.

  29. Oh noes, a black guy talking about the SCOPE OF GOVERNMENT. Obviously, he’s read to sell out to the white devils and bring back slavery.

  30. Independents Dissemble!

  31. The Jacket doesn’t let bull slide by.

  32. Yeah, that 2008 election where a certain candidate went back on his promise to take matching public funds to “buy” an election.

  33. Who owns Obama?

    RACIST!

  34. Don’t Democrats get more money?

    1. Yes, and they want to keep it that way.

      1. Taco salad? As simple as crumbling tacos into it?

        1. Yep. On the gourmet scale, it’s a step above mac & cheese.

          Like a tostada, but the shell is crumbled into the salad bowl.

  35. “Research” is one of those progtastic words. It’s up there with “studies”.

  36. Kmele = UNCLE TOM.

  37. Ha, the liberals get control of the court one wonders if it would still be considered hijacking.

    1. “he liberals get control of the court ”

      Stop it, you’re scaring the children.

    2. No, that would be: WE WON, BAGGERS! WE WON, YOU LOST! WHOOOHOOOO!!!!

  38. The party of free speech.

    Fucking principles…..

  39. The Supremes have been hijacked by CONSERVATIVES! Hijacked, I tell you!

  40. Ah, “access”. Another progtastic word. Can “common sense” and “investment” be far behind?

  41. Kmele doesn’t like camping and hiking in the woods? Way to be a stereotype, Foster.

    1. Kmele only likes shooting hoops and hip hop, you damn racist.

      1. Don’t forget white wimminz

        1. But only white wiminz wit da booty.

          1. Don’t forget a warm place to go to the bathroom.

  42. Foster isn’t a scout or doesn’t have interest in it? Forget him. He’ll be dead weight in the zombie apocalypse.

  43. Also: …a new Constitutional right…

    What’s this bitch playing at? The last time I checked the government has always been banned from interfering with speech. (not that it seems to matter)

  44. My daughter is in Brownies or some shit. Come on, get with it Kmele.

  45. They brought in Gillespie to cleanse The Independents of last night’s shenanigans. Credit to the show for being proactive in its own redemption.

    1. Stossel will make that redemption complete.

    2. I missed last night, but I gather Gavin was…Gavin?

      1. He was a few sheets to the wind, and had a miserable cough. They didn’t cut his mic when he was hacking up phlegm.

        1. And that was the high point.

      2. Gavin was Gavin at a new level.

        “jesus making dick cakes”

        1. Which is all well and good unless your show is, oh, I don’t know, trying to sell libertarianism to a probably conservative Fox Biz viewer.

        2. He reminded me of countless bad comedians.

          “Blahblahblah Jesus- blahblahblah dick!

        1. See, I warned Welch that he was playing with fire last time. And what did they do? Invite him back. Roll around with Taki’s Mag and you pick up fleas like our cuckolded friend up-thread.

          Fuck that shit.

          1. If they’re gonna invite a Taki on there, it should be Derbyshire. Or the red hot flaming Taki’s.

            The difference is a wash, outside the accents.

            1. Derbyshire is entertaining. I’d just want to hear his stories about Bruce Lee kicking his ass, though.

    3. No, he came in to try to alleviate the aura of uncool that Matt committed with the pink shirt and vest.

      He’s somewhat succeeded.

  46. Clapper has a tell. He’s talks.

  47. That dude is a shitty liar. I had never seen that footage before.

  48. Man, Clapper’s conscience is killing him. What a terrible liar.

    1. Clapper’s conscience is killing him

      Isn’t that kinda a good thing? I mean, he might one day seek redemption by committing seppuku.

      1. Of course it is.

  49. Not wittingly, so he’s saying the government is witless?

  50. Blowjobs aren’t sexual relations. Especially if you don’t move your hips.

  51. Ha, Welch is credited on screen on the show with “The Independents”.

  52. Nick is gone. Time to rework a classic line from The Godfather. “Take Nick, leave the jacket.”

    Leave the jacket on set.

    1. He’ll be back. And the jacket, too.

  53. Kmele Foster wants the terrorists to win. There, I said it.

    1. People who wear winter sweaters in spring always want terrorists to win.

      1. Oh, this thing we taped back in December.

  54. Government sticking its nose in MLB is retarded.

    1. Well I didn’t see you stepping up and doing it.

      1. Uh, folks…that’s not the government’s nose…

      2. I have limitations.

        I’m Canadian.

        1. What are the Blue Jays, chopped liver?

          *pours a 40 for the Expos*

          1. Don’t you mean ’50’ la cinquante?

            Either way, raise a mug for the Expos!

            And Youppi. Whatever it is.

            1. I just realized that Fifty Shades of Grey actually sounds erotic in French:Cinquantenuances de Grey

              That’s some classy shit right there.

  55. I just realized it would take a really long time to text anything on a rotary phone.

    1. and now I have an idea for a hipster smart-phone app

      1. dear god that is brilliant

  56. This dude is so fucking European but by God he knows what to say.

    1. I like this Eurotard. At least, unlike Piers Morgan, I don’t want to shoot him out of a cannon to get him back to his own country.

      1. Did you hear his final send off?

        Fuck.

        Just. Fuck.

  57. Speaking of Swedes, anyone have a good recipe for Swedish meatballs that doesn’t include horse meat or saw dust?

    1. First off, you need some fresh Swedes

    2. What’s wrong with horse meat?

  58. Forget the class warfare questions, ask this guy how it feels that his son Joffrey is the worst of both worlds, an evil king and a stupid king.

  59. All “bipartisan” means is that you are getting extra screwed.

    1. Yeah, it means that both parties are equally willing to screw you out of more of your rights and money.

  60. “What’s the dumbest thing you’ve ever done while drunk?”

    Talk about Jesus making dick cakes on Fox Business.

  61. What’s the dumbest thing you’ve ever did while drunk?

    Do we really want to start that conversation?

  62. “What is the dumbest thing you’ve ever done drunk”?

    There’s going to be some stiff competition in here, but I would think that I would at least make the top 5.

    1. “What is the dumbest thing you’ve ever done drunk”?

      Playa Manhattan. I was really drunk.

      1. For me, it was trying to use a squat toilet in a bar on the outskirts of Bangkok.

        1. That’s way too tame dude. Since I don’t want to totally show you up here, I will remain silent about my legendary yarns of drunken escapades.

          1. My first thought on reading that was “you could get a parasite!”

            1. That was the least of my worries, when having recalled the previous nights insanity.

          2. I didn’t want to gross you out by mentioning that I passed out while doing it, woke up on the floor with my pants still down, covered in shit water (how I didn’t get Hep C is anyone’s guess) and then noticing that I missed my target.

            1. First thing that comes to mind for me was the night that my brother and his wife visited me for the first time in a few years and my brother and I were trying to one up each other on the best micro-brews contest that we had each prepared for bragging rights.

              At some point in the nite, I found myself standing almost knee deep in water, in a swamp on my property, bare foot, alone, and having no fucking idea how I got there. Keep in mind, I lived on 30 acres in the middle of nowhere.

              I somehow managed to get my bearing and make it back to my house, open the walk-out basement doors to the house, and pass out on the floor.

              I never did figure out what the fuck happened.

              1. And that’s the most tamest tale of drunkenness that I have. The other time would be when I hid, for some reason, $3000 from myself, in my house, and never found it.

                1. Yeah, that’s an expensive drunk.

                  1. It was only money.

          3. He was only giving you the thing he did after the dumbest thing he’s ever done drunk.

            I mean, we know he was drunk in Bangkok. Fill in the blanks.

            1. Reader, I married “her”. A quiet wedding we had: “She” and I, the parson and clerk, were alone present.

    2. New Holland’s Dragonsmilk-

      tasted like Jack Daniels & pool water

      Innis & Gunn- see above

    3. Nothing I do while drunk is stupid. Epic, perhaps. Stupid, no.

      1. I never apologize. I’m sorry, but that’s just the way I am.

        1. I see you have no future in politics.

    4. I shaved my head once

      1. Tell us more about how a life of alcoholism lead you to becoming a Nazi.

    5. I sank a party boat, but it was only 50% my fault and there were no fatalities.

      1. That’s exactly what Scott Pederson said at his trial too

      2. That’s not bad. It’s definitely worthy of mention.

  63. Norberg: Swedish for common sense.

  64. failed marketing slogans: Terminix- The Final Solution

  65. “What is the dumbest thing you’ve ever done drunk”?

    Sounds like TI is gonna unleash some unintended consequences.

  66. The Independents Attire Review, II Aprilis, MMXIV

    Fountain of Youth-Edition

    – Lisa “ADHD” Kennedy: Flesh, glorious flesh…Kennedy: Thy bosom is endeared with all hearts. Kennedy’s success with extremely bright colors is largely due to her blemishless, alabaster, skin… which we are served an extra-helping of tonight. More, please. I strangely find myself reading many of the under-bar… titles for the first time.

    – Matt “Protanopia” welch: Welcome to Club Welch; so exclusive, they don’t even let Matt in. He simply stands by the door, looks you over with a sneer and a sniff, and waves your friends past you while giving you the stiff arm. We’ve previously had our say on Matt’s variations with black-suit/black-tie; we only ask: where the hell was this on the “Tim-Burton-themed” MONDAY? Sorry, Irish Morpheus Wednesday: fail.

    – Kmele “Poikilothermic” Foster: As foretold, we expect “Kasual Kmele” to be a regular thing in spring, and we like the levity it adds to Kmele’s fashion-personality. It appears he’s got at least 2 of the Shawl Collar sweaters – what else lurks in the arsenal?

    Bonus:

    – Johan “I love you too” Norberg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n08mNz9f0FQ If we have any advice for Johan = good-looking Swedes often portray super-villans in American Hollywood films; when you talk about “Global Resource Issues”, try and avoid the phrase, “Total Domination!”

    Thank You

  67. Foster likes it raw? He really is enamored with Catholicism.

  68. Beat the little bastards instead.

  69. He looks like a discount MATT DAMON.

    1. I think he looks more like the soldier in Stripes that apparently had a cow-fucker friend.

  70. “He blew a .106 at TEN IN THE MORNING!”

    Amateur.

    1. Unless that’s what still remains from the night before.

  71. Bath salts. They’re lucky the all still have faces.

  72. A raccoon would have done less damage.

    I smell a new AllState mayhem commercial.

  73. Hollywood should cast Putin as a villain in the next DC or Marvel movie.

    1. He already has an undersea layer apparently:

      http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemi…..64894a.jpg

        1. The guy is classic.

          Evil but classic.

  74. Ha, Stoss nailed Kennedy on her womanly emotions.

    1. It’s a lucky man who nails Kennedy

      1. Yes.

  75. Stossel remembers when they banned dinosaur racing.

  76. Of *course* pinball is a game of skill, otherwise how could you have pinball wizards?

  77. Yeah, just remove the pistol grip and you can get around gambling bans.

  78. Double Bonus

    – Stossel: Knows what he’s doing. He’s been in TV for a long time and ‘gets it’ as far as attire goes. Strong, high contrast, formulaic. He understands he’s just something you have to “look at” and wants to help make it easy on you; not so much ‘personality’ it make you think about it, not so bland he bores you. Simple, strong design.

    now, welch on the other hand…

    1. I associate suits with Mormons & church. Hence my dislike of suits.

      1. You need to have a therapy session with the Brooks Brothers. Forgetting suits even – havent’ you ever at least done anything ‘semi formal’? weddings? Cocktail parties? DEAR GOD MAN, DO YOU NOT OWN YOUR OWN YACHT CLUB? WHO LET HIM IN HERE?

        1. I had to dress up for court once. My pants were a little tight, so I unbuttoned them and just slid the belt over to hide it.

          I was the 2nd best dressed defendant in court that day.

    2. I offered my services.

      Burgundy on a dark suit I would not permit.

    3. That and in my personal opinion, he’s got a great soup strainer. Perhaps Welch, assuming he can grow facial hair, needs to try growing one.

      1. Please, the term is “Womb Broom”

      2. Please, the term is “Womb Broom”

        1. “Double Whammy”

  79. The Quebec government runs ads for the casino.

    Then it worries about gambling addiction.

    1. I hear ads which promote the lottery then give the gambling-addiction hotline number in that rapid voice they use for disclaimers in car commercials.

    2. The American Revolution was funded by lotteries (though that’s really not true); well, and Haym Solomon, as well. But lotteries!

    3. Manitoba does the same thing.
      Our govenrment just merged gambling and liquor into one

  80. Who had the idea to pitch a hotel as a zoo?

  81. We don’t want plasma, we want bone marrow, and a kidney! And maybe part of your liver.

  82. Haven’t cell phones made LifeAlert obsolete?

    1. My grandpa has a similar product. Pushing a button is easier, almost too easy.

      I get a lot of late night calls from the monitoring service, and he has no idea that he pushed the button.

  83. Nick is all like, “Nothing is Blacker than my soul”

  84. Racist? Yes.

  85. “There is so much segregation on college campuses!”

    Ummm, yeah, self-segregation was encouraged at my school…

  86. WE’RE ALL PEOPLE, GILLESPIE.

  87. Whee! We’re going to the Croquet Museum!!?!?

  88. The Jacket = Biker Bob’s Big Boy?

  89. Ha, Foster goes after Black History Month.

  90. Fonzie is a segregationist?

  91. Holy shit! Preach on, Kmele!

  92. Nick is a self loathing ethnic.

  93. Oh, shit, Kennedy told the Jacket to shutup?!

    1. It’s part of their foreplay.

  94. Italians get Columbus day.

    1. Ethnic cleanser!

    2. Great the guy who got lost.

    3. Please, Bob: *Native-American People’s Day*

      1. Why would Italians want that?

  95. Holy freaking hell. Give me a break on this “oh, woe is me with teh SEGRGASHUNZ in college” (or anywhere). May people just be allowed to associate with whoever they choose to w/o the progs crying about it? Next they’ll be mandating race quotas for your group of FRIENDS, as if race quotas are not racist in of themselves.

    1. As long as it’s done in Campus Approved Desegregation Zones. Which will be right next to the Free Speech Zones.

    2. I like that progressives complain about segregation on college campuses while actively championing ethnic studies classes.

      What percentage of the average African American studies course is non-black? You don’t get to construct majors that are bound to be heavily segregated and then bitch about the segregation that you helped create.

      1. Or Black fraternities…..

      2. What percentage of the average African American studies course is non-black?

        Very few actually. Nor do I find your comment to be fair. I mean, who fills Japanese 101, Japanese-Americans trying to reconnect to their heritage or nerdy White guys looking to translate the JRPG video games that don’t get released here and, perhaps, hunting that elusive white whale that is the authentic Japanese girlfriend (TM).

        Ethnic studies, or more properly Area Studies, were created in the 1950’s by the government, after experiencing a paucity of cultural and linguistic experts that could help the Intelligence Community in the Pacific theater. They pushed college campuses to train the next generation of analysts and pretty much are responsible for starting every Less-Commonly Taught (LCT) language program in the nation.

        1. Very few actually.

          You misinterpreted my comment. I didn’t say a large portion of black people go to African American studies courses, I said that virtually no non-blacks go to those courses. As such they are highly segregated.

          Nor do I find your comment to be fair.

          Since the topic of discussion was progressive views of segregated campuses and I pointed out that progressives advocate in favor of courses that are heavily segregated, my comment was very fair. I accurately pointed out hypocrisy in that progressives are advocating courses that are segregated while somewhat impotently complaining about segregation they are helping to foster.

          How those courses began is of absolutely no relevance, since the modern progressive ethnic studies course has nothing in common with a 1950’s government course on linguistics.

          1. You misinterpreted my comment.

            Ah, so I did.

            I said that virtually no non-blacks go to those courses. As such they are highly segregated.

            Still, I’m curious as to what the actual demographics are. Do you have any sources either way?

            Since the topic of discussion was progressive views of segregated campuses and I pointed out that progressives advocate in favor of courses that are heavily segregated, my comment was very fair.

            This assumes such courses are indeed heavily segregated, which I’m not sold on yet.

            the modern progressive ethnic studies course

            All ethnic studies courses are inherently progressive?

            a 1950’s government course on linguistics

            .

            Area studies are not just linguistics, but involve anthropology, history, economics, and political studies…but yes, area studies do indeed feed the Progressive “Take up the White Man’s Burden” ranks of the State Dept., for example.

            In my experience, area studies students tend not to be of the area studied as someone of the ethnicity studied usually already knows all that stuff.

            Although, I will grant you that AA Studies programs are probably popular in Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs). And while that might push the data your way, to use HBCUs in your argument would be like pointing to the lack of religious diversity at Yeshiva University.

  96. There’s segregation on U.S. campuses? I remember groups freely choosing to “segregate” themselves.

    Kmele knows where it’s at.

  97. Gillespie shows you how to bring humor into the discussion. Nailed the punchline.

  98. Nice rhetorical Rope-A-Dope, Kennedy.

  99. Gillespie on North American Italians: BURN!

    Good one!

    Italians here are a different breed.

    1. Please, Rufus: the accepted nomenclature is, “Mooks”

      1. Never heard of it.

        1. Wop, guineau, dago.

          Anglos were called: Mangiacakes.

  100. What was this chick talking about… has Rand Paul been outspoken about restricting abortion, or has he just pandered to the right by saying, ‘life is precious, and god, and the bible..’

    1. It’s almost as if he was daring to have sincere beliefs that he didn’t try to legislate!

      1. That’s what I mean = I don’t recall him agitating for federal abortion bans or anything… this whole ‘anti-women’ shit is based on *what*? exactly?

    2. Rand is for legal fetal personhood.
      He’s even more pro-life PC than his Pops.

    3. Jehmu is a fucking lying liberal shitheel. I wouldn’t have her on my show.

    4. If he’s capable of pandering to SoConz, he’s capable of pandering to libertarians.

      If you have to go around saying, “this guy is just lying to those other guys; he *really* agrees with me!” you’re no better than an Obama voter circa 2008.

      1. PS – So far, I think Rand *isn’t* pandering.

      2. I doubt Rand sincerely believes any of that stuff, but then again neither did Bush or Romney, I didn’t Cosmos giving them the benefit of the doubt.

        1. Again: If he’s a liar, what if he’s lying to you, not to them?

          1. Possible but unlikely. Sincerely held Christian faith is rare among the elite. And he is a Presbyterian.

            1. Wait, are you that white-supremacy guy?

              1. Pretty much.

                1. White supremacists used to be learned men like John C. Calhoun and Woodrow Wilson – still full of shit, but in an eloquent, Latinate way.

                  Now it’s people like you.

                  1. Unfortunately our elite have become much more hostile to the masses they rule.

        2. Bush and Romney didn’t even pretend to be libertarian.

          1. I was referring to abortion and Jesus.

      3. No, I didn’t think he was *lying* = I think this lady was trying to make an issue out of something I personally don’t recall him making a Legislative Priority out of.

        If he is, its news to me.

        1. No, he doesn’t seem to think full protection for the unborn is feasible right now and he has other irons in the fire.

          But he *did* introduce a bill to protect human beings from conception.

    5. “I believe life begins at conception and it is the duty of our government to protect this life…. I have stated many times that I will always vote for any and all legislation that would end abortion or lead us in the direction of ending abortion.”

      Rand Paul is not a squish on abortion.
      No “leaving it up to the states”
      He’s “to the right of”* Santorum.

      (* as Reason would say)

      1. Rand was the great Cosmotarian hope. Cosmos will have to face the inconvenient fact that they are a fringe group and few in either the elite or the masses agree with them and no one could win if they seem to be one of them.

      2. Ok, just surprised this hasn’t been made more of an issue of here.

        or maybe it has, and I never noticed.

        1. Some people agree with him, others suck up his prolife views because of other issues, still others blow it off because they think he’s lying, because no *sensible* person could be prolife.

        2. I frequently point out (to much derision) that both Rand and Ron are “social conservatives”.

          1. FWIW = I don’t care.

            I didn’t like Ron because I thought (and think) he’s a bit goofy and off on some fairly important issues that are not ‘social’ at all (e.g. FP, some other things)

            Rand I dig on. If he’s more SoCon than me, I’m fine with that. I just don’t think its going to help in any election if he makes a fight out of it.

            1. I have my disagreements with both but I think they are sincerely and profoundly pro-liberty.

      3. I don’t really see how that’s “to the right of” (going by Reason’s definition, I’m not debating the use of the word “right”) Santorum, though I agree he’s firm on the issue.

  101. Showered in your hate

    Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

    1. Hate crimes just took on a whole new meaning.

  102. Fuck your hand-waving ad hominem, Greene. Rand’s religious beliefs having nothing to do with the injustices the Obama administration daily commits against Hispanics. Last month a Border Patrol agent kidnapped and raped a mother and her 2 daughters, slashed their throats and left them to die

    That blood coats Obama’s hands, bitch.

    1. His name is Esteban Manzanares. I’m sure he is a “nativist” as well. This just shows that we need to shut down the border patrol and throw open our borders to the third world. Obama is directly responsible for obeying the constitution and enforcing the laws, fuck you president Obama!

      1. Did Manzanares fuck your wife too? How did it feel to watch his swarthy erect penis enter her again and again as she moaned in pleasure?

        Don’t dodge the question, coward. Answer me.

        1. Black people say the darndest things…

          1. Type “I hate Jews”, I dare you, coward.

            By the way, ever DNA test your kids, cuckold? I bet one of them has wavy hair, right?

            1. But I don’t hate Jews.

              My kids look like me, fairly “mediterranean.”

      2. “Obama is directly responsible for obeying the constitution and enforcing the laws”.

        HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

        That’s outstanding. I mean that’s up there with the Nobel Peace Prize. The only way Obama (PBUH) would be effected by the constitution is if you rolled it up and smacked him in the nose with it.

  103. Obama is more divisive than Paul could ever be.

    Fucking bull shit she’s spewing.

  104. Dammit. That split personality one was me, too. Uncredited.

  105. A semi-colon could obscure Kennedys boobs. We should have her to stand up and see if she has the booty to compensate for that?

    Was that sexist?

    1. I mean she seems to be a pretty healthy girl, not anorexic at all.

  106. Waiting for that two minutes of hate was worth it.

  107. Who are these people who they fear to speak of?

  108. Hey, they TMZ wuz me!? I DEMAND CREDIT

    1. translation = I’m scoring myself 2. EAGLE!

  109. OMG… DERBZ!

  110. They didn’t want to give anyone two this time?

    1. and by “anyone” you mean ME

      1. The fashion reports are great… but don’t get cocky.

        1. Cocky? COCKY THIS

          GILMORE|4.1.14 @ 10:10PM|#

          WTF, the Independents turn to fucking TMZ whenever you take the pressure off them. Buncha fucking teenage girls they are.”

          1. that noted… I think this was really a poor example of something to qualify for the 2mh8.

            what with all of my other, higher-class material, you see.

        1. You got one of the “H&R board” ones too?

          that puts you @ 3 so far? I’ve only kept track of Epi & me.

          1. Sorry, yes, I see above

  111. AAAAHHHHUGH DOBBS!

  112. fucking dobbs.

    Mike Morrell is a complete shitbag

  113. So, I’m guessing they’ll never use my “Firing Line for the OCD crowd” line? Their loss.

  114. WTF is up with crediting “the board?”

    1. I think they liken us to the top men that run Government Motors. High Praise.

      1. GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER, WELCH.

        1. WTF is up with crediting “the board?”

          I read this in the voice of Jesus Quintana.

    2. I think “Bernie” is trying to give the impression doesn’t just do quicksearches for “me” to get his material. Guy needs to make it look like work, you know.

  115. Got home just in time to see my perfectly good snark not be used. I wonder if they went with Hit & Run anonymity to stop the competition we got going here.

    1. They put names on the early ones, though.

    2. Just be happy that you’ve been on before. Some of us write with such profanity and esoteric spirit that we’re never going to garner the fame we rightly deserve.

  116. What’s the link to this after show?

    Can I come, can I come?

    1. Don’t think there is one tonight.

      1. Well then I’m done here.

    2. Sorry, no Canucks.

    3. Promise. If they let you join, you no wanna.

      1. Promise.

  117. The Comment’s section is starting to resemble twitter….

    1. “Italian police on Wednesday arrested 24 people involved in a campaign to demand independence for Venice and its surrounding region and seized a tractor that they said the activists had tried to convert into a sort of tank….

      “The authorities accused the 24 separatists of being involved in “terrorism”, “fabrication of weapons of war” and “subversion of the democratic order”….

      “Those arrested included Franco Rocchetta, a former MP and the founder of the Liga Veneta, or Veneto League, one of several separatist movements calling for independence for the affluent north-eastern region.”

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new…..orism.html

    2. And PB has a new sockpuppet.

      1. Evidently I whiffed on that one.

  118. Cosmos are complaining about people complaining about segregation, is there any evidence that segregation isn’t going on?

    [……]

    Okay, so segregation is people’s “right.” So let me ask you another question, WHY is segregation going on in Stuff White People Like Campuses?

    [……]

    This is why libertarians can’t convince people to agree with them.

    1. Shut the fuck up you racist scumbag.

      This is why libertarians can’t convince people to agree with them.

      And how many people were at your last Klan meeting? Libertarianism is just a bit more popular than the lynch mobs you hang out with.

      1. lynch mobs

        Lynch mobs would imply that they do something other than sit in their mother’s basement and write internet screeds.

        1. And they still haven’t managed to get #stormfront2016 trending on teh tweeterzez

      2. Lots of people agree with my views on immigration and race. They just aren’t very powerful and a lot of people have to keep them secret. But ask people on the street if they want to double legal immigration and see their responses. I have never been a member of the Klan but I did attend one meeting almost a decade ago, I was invited by a friend, I met some strange people, most were working class and none were very intelligent.

        1. I have never been a member of the Klan but I did attend one meeting almost a decade ago, I was invited by a friend, I met some strange people, most were working class and none were very intelligent.

          Holy shit, I am laughing my ass off.

          “Sure I attended a Klan meeting one time, but those guys were pretty dumb! There sure were some weirdos at that Klan meeting I willingly attended!”

          1. This can’t be real.

          2. The humor coming from the assumption that I am able to see other people’s weirdness but am blind to my own. But I was never a member and only attended one meeting, more out of curiosity than anything else. I also attended an Eskimo religious ritual, I claimed to be an Eskimo businessman from out of town. I had to leave early because I was pretty sure some people saw through me.

            I noticed no one here answered the question, why is there so much segregation at Stuff White People Like Campuses?

        2. Fuck off and die in a fire you disgusting racist fucking pig.

        3. Tuckurt|4.2.14 @ 10:25PM|#
          “Lots of people agree with my views on immigration and race.”…

          Yeah, and ‘lots of people’ still think Uncle Joe was a heck of a guy.

          1. I love how he combines the silent majority schtick with an sense of martyrdom and a paranoiac’s fear oppression. He fears to type the word “Jew” because the NSA will track his IP and Project MONARCH will abduct his two drooling idiot children to use as Zio-Illuminati Lizard People sex slaves.

            1. I suspect Tupla is tiring of Bo, and is adding to the Puppet drawer.

              Real “Murkin” was more direct and less bullshit than this cat.

              1. Perhaps, but I hope Tulpa wouldn’t have made the amateur hour statistics mistake I pointed out upthread.

                Or is that just part of his misdirection?

                I dunno. I’m going to bed.

        4. I have never been a member of the Klan but I did attend one meeting almost a decade ago, I was invited by a friend, I met some strange people, most were working class and none were very intelligent.

          So minus the whole ‘working’ thingee, you fit right in. Hilarious. Do you have a blog or newsletter I could subscribe to?

          1. You are right that I don’t do any work, I “work” at a government job.

            I don’t want to link my blog here because people would troll it.

    2. What the fuck are you talking about?

    3. Hey, everybody, pipe down! A white supremacist is trying to teach us how to win friends and influence people.

    4. oh, is it ‘Murican again? sorry, should have caught that. Instead, I just thought it was some *other* incoherent idiot.

      I forget that they are almost always the same 2 people.

  119. Ew, I put this in one of Tuckurt’s threads:

    “Italian police on Wednesday arrested 24 people involved in a campaign to demand independence for Venice and its surrounding region and seized a tractor that they said the activists had tried to convert into a sort of tank….

    “The authorities accused the 24 separatists of being involved in “terrorism”, “fabrication of weapons of war” and “subversion of the democratic order”….

    “Those arrested included Franco Rocchetta, a former MP and the founder of the Liga Veneta, or Veneto League, one of several separatist movements calling for independence for the affluent north-eastern region.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new…..orism.html

  120. “A few years ago, Harvard librarians discovered that the covers of three of the books in their 15-million-volume collection were made from human skin. One of the books contained Roman poetry, another French philosophy and the third was a treatise on medieval Spanish law.

    “According to an inscription in one of the skin-covered volumes, titled “Practicarum quaestionum circa leges regias…,” the person from whom the cover was crafted was actually flayed while he was still alive.”

    http://www.ibtimes.com/books-b…..nd-1566694

    1. Pax Romana. It was for the greater good, ya know…

    2. From the libraries of House Bolton at the Dreadfort.

  121. WTF made CNN switch from Fligh 370 coverage

      1. Oops! You got it.

    1. I’m sure they’ll dig up another angle on Bridgegate by the morning.

  122. “This is what feminism has come to: fighting for the right to wear yoga pants and leggings to middle school. This pressing civil rights issue made headlines when girls in Evanston, Ill., protested rules that they said banned the bum-hugging clothing for creating classroom distractions.

    “A feminist flash mob attacked Haven Middle School for shaming girls and promoting rape culture. Eliana Dockterman wrote in Time that the school’s argument “is not that distant from the arguments made by those who accuse rape victims of asking to be assaulted by dressing a certain way.””

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/…..n/7177111/

    1. Adult women have transformed children into monsters merely for finding the contours of a girl’s body attractive. The only people being shamed here are the boys. Their crime is being human

      *thunderous applause*

    2. Honestly, If I’d tried to predict which side of the issue the feminists were going to support, I’d have guessed they were anti-yoga pants.

      Yoga pants are taking over the world. It’s like they have a mind of their own.

      They used to pretty much all come in different shades of black. Now I’m seeing a lot of patterns. Patters that hypnotize as the wearer walks…

      I’ve seen a lot of leopard skin yoga pants recently, too. Leopard skin without irony. This really is like living in the ’70s all over again. Obama is sort of like Carter, and yoga pants are like the 2010s version of burning your bra. Even the feminists think so!

      1. Honestly, If I’d tried to predict which side of the issue the feminists were going to support, I’d have guessed they were anti-yoga pants.

        Why? Visible labia=empowering. Visible penis=assault. Seems feminist to me.

        1. Yeah, but let’s not get all anti-yoga pants just because the feminists like them, okay?

          And generally speaking, I haven’t seen any labias through yoga pants. I have seen ’em make an okay ass look good and a good ass look like everything you ever wanted for Christmas.

          Let’s all just pretend that the yoga pants aren’t an issue for anybody. Because once women hear that we’re talking about them (even worse arguing about them), then they’ll put the yoga pants away.

          And we don’t want that! I mean, I think this is one issue where we libertarians the feminists can find some common ground. They like yoga pants? That’s great. I like yoga pants, too! Now, let’s all shut up.

          P.S. Yoga pants!

          1. Yeah, but let’s not get all anti-yoga pants just because the feminists like them, okay?

            It’s a fucking middle school. I’m fine with no visible anything.

            Let’s all just pretend that the yoga pants aren’t an issue for anybody. Because once women hear that we’re talking about them (even worse arguing about them), then they’ll put the yoga pants away.

            Kinda doubt that.

            1. I ain’t talkin’ about the ones in middle school.

        2. Yeah, but let’s not get all anti-yoga pants just because the feminists like them, okay?

          And generally speaking, I haven’t seen any labias through yoga pants. I have seen ’em make an okay ass look good and a good ass look like everything you ever wanted for Christmas.

          Let’s all just pretend that the yoga pants aren’t an issue for anybody. Because once women hear that we’re talking about them (even worse arguing about them), then they’ll put the yoga pants away.

          And we don’t want that! I mean, I think this is one issue where we libertarians the feminists can find some common ground. They like yoga pants? That’s great. I like yoga pants, too! Now, let’s all shut up.

          P.S. Yoga pants!

          1. Damn server squirrels.

            We’re having those problems again.

            1. You don’t say.

            2. You don’t say.

          2. As long as it isn’t Lindy West wearing the yoga pants.

            1. To be honest, I’m kinda out of the loop on this, so I had to do a search.
              HUBBA, HUBBA! YOGA PANTS ON NICE ASSES!

              1. Looks like 80s spandex and leg warmers to me.

                Proving the 80’s were so fucking cool, the fashions are being revisited.

          3. Ken, as per my comment yesterday in this thread:

            The trademark for Lycra, the material used to make yoga pants, is owned by Koch Industries. So every time you see a woman wearing yoga pants, not only is she providing beautiful ass-shaped eye candy, she is also fighting Obama and raging for libertarian causes backed by tasty Koch money.

            I just made every boner you get that much better. I’m kind of a God.

            1. “The trademark for Lycra, the material used to make yoga pants, is owned by Koch Industries.”

              (peering toward the middle distance, tips of left-hand fingers touching forehead)
              I foresee MANY references to this comment in the days ahead!

            2. “Every time you see a woman wearing yoga pants, not only is she providing beautiful ass-shaped eye candy, she is also fighting Obama and raging for libertarian causes backed by tasty Koch money.”

              Don’t tell them, or you’ll ruin it.

              Right now, there are a lot of girls wearing them–just so they can fit in. ’cause there are SO many of them doin’ it!

              A trend like this happens only once or twice in a lifetime.

              Right now, there are all kinds of fogies goin’, “You know, back in our day, all we had to look at were jeans!” The ol’ days they’re talkin’ about? That was just a year and a half ago, and we could go back to that at any time.

              Do you have any idea how long it’s going to take to invent something women will willingly choose to wear in droves–that’s even tighter than yoga pants?

              You really don’t want to make this about partisan politics. Don’t tell them it’s about the Koch Brothers! Tell them it’s about yoga, and being healthy, and feeling good about themselves, and then tell them how you care about the environment and animals.

    3. Leggings are incredibly distracting, but in a good way. Usually.

    4. I was on a college campus today. Lots of girls with leggings and yoga pants.

      When you’re standing in line waiting that’s not a bad thing.

      1. I think they’re the best thing since the leather miniskirt.

        It’s gonna be a great summer!

        The general acceptance of yoga pants are the kind of thing that could have demographic repercussions for decades–they could create another baby boom!

        Honestly, I think girls are getting hotter. I think it’s because they’ve become more athletic.

        I look at the superstar hot chicks from the ’70s, and there a few standouts. But I see girls at the gym every day that would blow four out of five of ’70s era Charlie’s Angels out of the water.

      2. Clearly all the right girls are wearing them at your campus. Mine? The total opposite.

          1. Appropriately, you SF’d the link and I get a 403-FORBIDDEN message.

            1. Then you are truly fortunate. It isn’t forbidden for me.

        1. Perhaps you should contribute to the solution by wearing yoga pants and leggings?

          1. Nice one. You need a wingman? Just let me know.

          2. I think we had a discussion about why I shan’t be doing that already.

            1. did I miss something!?

              1. Unless you’re the NSA, no.

            2. Wow. For some reason I read “shan’t be” as “shat”.

              1. THE SHAT IS ALWAYS INVOLVED

                1. The past tense (and past participle) of shit, not Captain Kirk.

                  1. you leave William Shatner alone.

            3. I don’t recall yoga pants or leggings coming up at all.

        1. This isn’t new.

          It’s just 80s spandex.

          1. I think the new stuff has far better fabric that smooths the skin’s appearance. You could definitely see thigh cheese through 80’s spandex. And don’t get me started on the colors.

            1. They are even doing the headbands and legwarmers.

    5. Regarding the “promoting rape culture” theory, I have no idea whether scandalous outfits increase rape, so I’m not going to speculate either way. But, even assuming that what you wear doesn’t matter, how is it promoting rape to endorse wearing things that you think will decrease the chances of it happening? Is it really necessary to suggest that doing something misguided is the same as deliberately doing the thing you’re trying to avoid? Especially considering the fact that they aren’t making it worse.

      1. how is it promoting rape to endorse wearing things that you think will decrease the chances of it happening? Is it really necessary to suggest that doing something misguided is the same as deliberately doing the thing you’re trying to avoid? Especially considering the fact that they aren’t making it worse.

        Like all most of the SJW stuff, they had a point a few generations ago. Clothing was used as an excuse to absolve a rapist in court. Now, the clothing debate resides in the “rape culture” matrix (read, things we don’t like, so we attribute them to violent crime). And, because of the way they’ve defined sexual assault and mix it in with rape statistics, the clothing thing has a point.

        If you dress slutty, you typically respond better to more overt actions. This isn’t a myth, it’s observed experience that most people will admit to observing. She’s wearing shorts where you can see her labia, an ass grab is usually expected.

        But since an ass grab is now sexual assault, which is now equivalent to (and statistically blended with) rape, not dressing with one or both labia dangling will actually reduce the rates.

  123. http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/20…..at-eaters/

    Vegetarians less healthy than meat-eaters, CBS still opens with the loaded statement egetarians may have a lower BMI and drink alcohol sparingly, but… Drink alcohol sparingly? What does that even mean? As opposed to meat eaters who are universally binge-drinking murderers?

  124. Isn’t rape culture an oxymoron? The whole point of culture is to restrain impulses.

    What about:

    Murder manners
    Theft courtesy
    Assault etiquette

    1. Emily Post says you should leave a little thank-you note after every rape.

      1. We wouldn’t say no to a box of chocolates, either.

    2. The whole point of culture is to restrain impulses.

      I thought the whole point was to establish and maintain tradition.

    3. The point of culture is transmit ideas to future generations.

  125. For that matter, I don’t think Rick Santourum really believes in what he claims to either. His wife spent her 20s fucking an abortion provider. She then went on to have 7 kids with Santourum, and, surprise surprise, one of them got trisomy 18(google it). Sounds like the hostile elite to me. But they need to seem socially conservative in order to appeal to gullible beta males and Christians and White nationalists, and the left needs them to seem like they really are socially conservative so that sluts, SWPLs, and Eskimos will be afraid of social conservatives and give money to the left.

    1. ^
      Knock, knock…
      Hey does this thing work?

    2. What about slutty Eskimos?

      1. I don’t think they are as common as slutty palefaces. I read about them sometimes:

        In a bizarre and almost deliberate-sounding twist of fate, she hooks up with a string of German men who bring back haunting memories of Nazis and who eventually help her overcome her hatred. The first German, Otto, agrees to play the roles of Nazi officer and Jewish girl with her after their date, beneath the Williamsburg Bridge. He stands up, hovers over her with a threatening stare and demands to see her papers. She, in turn, pulls her knees into her chest, frightened. The second German is Cristopher, a Harvard professor and distinguished author of a book about Third Reich ideology. Then she meets Markus online who helps her learn German. It’s the ultimate redemptive relationship: the Nazi descendant who declares his love of Jews and the Jewish girl who comes to accept the Nazi descendant as a human being worthy of her affection. This is the transgressive section of the book and the one her fans will find most fascinating. But any deeper meaning of these relationships eludes her, or she conceals them from the reader.

        http://forward.com/articles/19…..z2xn5xPkyu

        Whether it is truth of propaganda(to normalize sluttiness among the palefaces), I don’t no.

        1. Why did my reference to Eskimos lead you to think of Nazis?

          And why do you go to the Forward Web site – don’t you know that the more clicks they get, the more Joo Profits they accumulate?

          Then they’ll use the proceeds to lure your sister into white slavery.

    3. I’ve never heard of an SWPL, but is it anything like an LBFM?

      1. Of course, it’s not something cosmos want you to know about:

        http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/

        1. Oh, yeah, I’ve heard of that.

          I think I like LBFMs better.

          1. Jesus, Ken. I googled that with my kids in the room.

            1. I didn’t make it up!

              Dude was talking in code. I thought maybe he was military.

      2. Stuff White People Like – Satirical popular books and Web site about what liberal white people like. Sometimes phrased in the form of advice to non-white people. I think the “American” clone is referring to the kind of white liberals parodied in the book and Web site.

        Or Socialist Workers’ Party of Louisiana.

    4. Just curious, has anyone actually heard someone they consider to be a socon mention Rick Santorum?

      1. See the Salty Ham Tears thread. One of the highest post counts in Hit N Run history.

  126. New anti-hoarding measures in Venezuela. New IDs will track purchases.

    “”Registration began Tuesday at more than 100 government-run supermarkets across the country. Working-class shoppers who sometimes endure hours-long lines at government-run stores to buy groceries at steeply reduced prices are welcoming the plan.

    “”The rich people have things all hoarded away, and they pull the strings,” said Juan Rodriguez, who waited two hours to enter the government-run Abastos Bicentenario supermarket near downtown Caracas on Monday, and then waited another three hours to check out….

    “Checkout workers at Abastos Bicentenario were taking down customers’ cellphone numbers Monday, to ensure they couldn’t return for eight days. Shoppers said employees also banned purchases by minors, to stop parents from using their children to engage in hoarding, which the government calls “nervous buying.”

    “Rodriguez supports both measures.

    “”People who go shopping every day hurt us all,” he said, drawing approving nods from the friends he made over the course of his afternoon slowly snaking through the aisles with his oversized cart.”

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/s…..1-00-32-05

  127. New anti-hoarding measures in Venezuela. New IDs will track purchases.

    “”Registration began Tuesday at more than 100 government-run supermarkets across the country. Working-class shoppers who sometimes endure hours-long lines at government-run stores to buy groceries at steeply reduced prices are welcoming the plan.

    “”The rich people have things all hoarded away, and they pull the strings,” said Juan Rodriguez, who waited two hours to enter the government-run Abastos Bicentenario supermarket near downtown Caracas on Monday, and then waited another three hours to check out….

    “Checkout workers at Abastos Bicentenario were taking down customers’ cellphone numbers Monday, to ensure they couldn’t return for eight days. Shoppers said employees also banned purchases by minors, to stop parents from using their children to engage in hoarding, which the government calls “nervous buying.”

    “Rodriguez supports both measures.

    “”People who go shopping every day hurt us all,” he said, drawing approving nods from the friends he made over the course of his afternoon slowly snaking through the aisles with his oversized cart.”

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/s…..1-00-32-05

  128. New anti-hoarding measures in Venezuela. New IDs will track purchases.

    “”Registration began Tuesday at more than 100 government-run supermarkets across the country. Working-class shoppers who sometimes endure hours-long lines at government-run stores to buy groceries at steeply reduced prices are welcoming the plan.

    “”The rich people have things all hoarded away, and they pull the strings,” said Juan Rodriguez, who waited two hours to enter the government-run Abastos Bicentenario supermarket near downtown Caracas on Monday, and then waited another three hours to check out….

    “Checkout workers at Abastos Bicentenario were taking down customers’ cellphone numbers Monday, to ensure they couldn’t return for eight days. Shoppers said employees also banned purchases by minors, to stop parents from using their children to engage in hoarding, which the government calls “nervous buying.”

    “Rodriguez supports both measures.

    “”People who go shopping every day hurt us all,” he said, drawing approving nods from the friends he made over the course of his afternoon slowly snaking through the aisles with his oversized cart.”

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/s…..1-00-32-05

    1. See, this is what I’m talking about, no-one needs *three* comments.

      1. Notorious G.K.C – #1 cause of comment count inflation.

    2. So you can’t “hoard” any goods, but you’d better not be back here buying any for eight (why 8?) days?
      Rodriguez is due for a rude awakening on day 6 when he gets the shits and runs out of TP.

      1. Toilet paper is effeminate, Comrade! Let us agree to do without! Come, we’ll shake hands on the agreement…

        1. And this concept will help you understand the cultural taboo on touching people with your left hand in many parts of Asia.

      2. The New Bolivarian Man wipes his ass with his hand, Comrade.

    3. Holy crap, Rodriguez is dense. If people are hoarding, it’s because your precious socialist government has created such scarcity that the have to.

      1. seguin|4.2.14 @ 11:49PM|#
        “Holy crap, Rodriguez is dense.”

        Yeah, read Shreek’s posts here; low info socialist apologists are not bound by facts or logic. Here or there.

        1. Unfortunately, my eyes have already been text-raped by PB’s cool, unfiltered derp.

  129. Good links are wasted on Independents threads. I’ll post some of mine tomorrow and pretend it’s for the first time.

    1. Notorious G.K.C.|4.2.14 @ 11:32PM|#
      “Good links are wasted on Independents threads.”

      Threads?! You say threads?! Like pink over purple?! Wide ties and narrow lapels?! Earrings?!
      Threads?!

        1. Wow.

          I was stunned by it’s greatness. Then I saw the knee patch on the jeans – EPIC!

  130. Gonna put this here; prolly re-post in AM Links:
    “Is public financing the answer for crooked politicians?”
    Yeah, since the politicos are the ones who wrote the law saying you can use campaign funds for criminal defense and they’d be the ones distributing the money. To all those folks who want to toss them out on their asses, right?
    http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05el…..hc-bayarea

    1. Next on sfgate, “Will giving foxes the keys to the hen house result in fewer chicken deaths?”

  131. OLIVER Cooney was obsessed with his physique. But at 20, that obsession killed him. Doctors say muscle-building drugs can have catastrophic effects

    1. Perfect example of why steroids should be legal. Roids cause stimulate production of red blood cells, sometimes to excess. People should be able to walk into their doctor’s office to freely discuss how to address this problem. Instead, the problem of thickened blood goes unaddressed and eventually causes strokes and heart attacks.

  132. DAVID and Rachel McInnes have been married for 20 years.
    The couple, who live on the NSW south coast, have made a conscious decision not to have children because they believe the world is already overpopulated.

    1. I don’t have a problem with any of that.

      1. Nor do I. That said, I don’t believe that they came to that decision because they think the planet has too many people.

        1. It was part of our decision.

          Say what you will, the more people, the more people will be in your shit.

          I live where I do for a reason. Less people, less rules (or at least the rules aren’t enforced).

          1. Ah. Gotcha. More people in your affairs when you have to send kids to the public skewlz.

            1. We were all talking here one night, maybe a year ago, about Chris McCandless. Some people were saying there was I kind of freedom about being alone and no one telling you what to do.

              I thought about it afterwards and wished I’d said this. It’s not an all or nothing deal. You don’t have be in the middle of nowhere Alaska to enjoy more freedom. It’s a sliding scale. There are places in the world, where you can drive around with open beers in your truck and not think twice about being pulled over. You can drive 70 MPH on secondary roads and no one thinks twice about seeing a cop. I’m freer because there are so few people here that no one gives a shit what you do and there’s not enough enforcement to do anything about it if they wanted to. AND I can still have high speed interwebz (kinda) and indoor plumbing.

              I never understood why libertarians were against fewer people on the planet.

              1. Are they against fewer people on the planet, or against Paul Ehrlich and his ilk?

                1. Not sure. The discussions I’ve had have always equated the two (or at least implied that).

                  I’m, of course, against forcing anyone to do anything. But the world would be a much freer place, IMHO, with half the people.

              2. I like the sliding scale theory. We all laugh about how fucked up CA is, but I really am at the edge of my comfort zone here. I would have left a long time ago if I didn’t have such strong ties to the area.

                1. I get it. CA is truly a beautiful place. And most people aren’t as antisocial as I am. But can you imagine living in that area with 1/3 the people? Getting on THE 405 and it not taking 2 hours to travel 15 miles?

                  1. CA in the 70s sounds like heaven.

      2. I have no kids. I don’t want kids. Not because the world is overpopulated.

        1. You’re afraid that they might grow up to wear shorts?

          1. have you seen the Tommy Models in pink bermuda’s????

            1. That would get my kids disowned.

        2. So who gets your duchy when you die?

          1. my younger brother, Chad.

            1. In the transition period after your death, when the peasants in the Fiefdom of Pantsfan revolt to install a democratic regime and execute him, will they call him “a hanging Chad”?

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