Tonight on The Independents: Weed Bowl, Stupid Laws, Obama's Weird Interview, Cliff May's NSA, Trouble in Russkie-ville, MLK, Michael C. Moynihan, and More
Tonight's live episode of The Independents reverts to its usual 9 pm ET slot on Fox Business Network, which is probably a good idea given that the two panelists are Vice magazine co-founder Gavin McInnes and ex-Reasoner Michael C. Moynihan. (You wouldn't want to see what these people look like at midnight….)
The McMoynihan brothers will be talking about, among other things, President Barack Obama's weird interview in The New Yorker, the upcoming Weed Bowl between Denver and Seattle, Dennis Rodman's return visit to rehab, bloody street battles in Ukraine, and the latest trouble in the run-up to the Sochi Winter Olympics.
After Kennedy demonstrates some of the more ridiculous laws on the books in New York, Institute for Justice Senior Attorney Jeff Rowes will discuss laws and government requirements that have a more tangible negative impact on people's lives. And in a rematch of sorts after he tussled with Kennedy over the issue on The O'Reilly Factor Friday, Foundation for Defense of Democracies President Clifford May will take exception to the libertarian interpretation of surveillance by the National Security Agency.
The "Keeping it Kmele" segment will be an examination on this MLK Day of how various partisans try to appropriate Martin Luther King for their own political goals, and other topics that may or may not be brought up include hockey fights, Lena Dunham, Spanx, and weird rocks on Mars. As always, send tweets to @IndependentsFBN and they may get used on air.
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Dude makes no sene at all man.
http://www.AnonPlanet.tk
I make no sene either...i have a recipe for it but i just can't get all the ingredients i need.
How much sene do you make?
I have a blog about this sort of thing.
The Independents Marijuana Racism
Appropriate post tags, racist!
Awe, poor Tom Brady was offended by mean ol' Richard Sherman
Didn't watch the game: was Welker's hit on Taqib as bad as Belichik is claiming?
No. According to Welker they were both trying to reroute the other guy and neither moved and thus there was a collision.
Sherm is bringing out the butthurt across the spectrum. I love it.
Ric Flair moments, its the fun factor missing in most sport events these days.
I think Seattle-SF has all the makings of a great rivalry for years to come. Good, young teams with coaches who should be around for awhile and have history going back to their college days, same division, historical animosity, both teams are very physical, etc. This is just icing on the cake.
Should be good. Both coaches build their teams to beat the shit out of each other.
Kap's legs are too juicy of targets for them to be so reliant on them. Stammy his run, he wont be worth shit.
But Harbaugh will just find someone else if he has too. I don't think sentiments get in his way when he sees a player stinking up his plans.
Well, the issue will be what happens next year, especially if the Hawks win the Super Bowl. Because all these young guys who are just starting out but did so well are going to want salary increases, and the pay cap probably won't allow for all of them. So some of these guys are going to walk.
Hopefully they can keep most of the lineup, but it's going to be challenging. But they cannot let Sherm go. He's too good and too fun to watch.
It was an awesome game to watch. They brutalized each other.
Sherman shouldn't have gone after another player like that but it didn't justify the amount of time it was given on talk shows.
How did Sherm "go after" Crabtree (other than talking shit)? According to him (and yes, his version might be...biased), he went over to Crabtree to shake his hand and say good game, and Crabtree pushed him off, and that's when he made the choke gesture and got the taunting flag (not that it would make any difference). If you watch Sherm, he is always patting opposing players on the back and helping them up; he's actually a pretty nice guy unless you piss him off.
Also, enjoy Sherm's postgame interview on Q13. MEDIOCRE!
One of my favorites from this season.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-.....on-Sherman
Watch the whole thing.
I do think the guy trolls a bit, but that's part of being a cornerback. Think about Deion, or someone like Cortland Finnegan. Provoking a WR into a shove or a smack is part of playing the position.
But it's either next year or the year after that the Legion will be disbanded due to salary cap issues. The Hawks should keep Thomas and Sherman in that order. Carroll can coach up other DBs, it's what he does. I don't know if Sherman is the best corner, but Thomas is the best safety in the league.
Yeah I saw that but who knows what he was saying?
What I meant was his 'mediocre' quip after a win. No need for it. Don't get me wrong, it didn't upset me like most. I found it hilarious and fun.
"Good game" my ass. Did he really think that Crabtree was going to find that to be a sincere wish??
I thought the BS around it was laughable. Talking shit is a pretty venerable tradition in pro sports. Crabtree will have a couple chances next year to pay back the Sherm.
Yeah, coming from overseas, I was stunned when I learned about the "taunting" rule. Seriously, you can hit a guy full speed running in the opposite direction but if you say something to him or make a provocative gesture, you get penalized.
Of course, you really shouldn't try & break into the opponent's dressing room during the break:
http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_.....rawl-roles
Parity = Mediocrity
This won't last long.
I hope you're right. I miss the dynasties.
It's kept me entertained all day.
Its...I should type slower.
It has... I give up.
You were right the first time; you can use "it's" there.
Don't get the hate on Brady. He's the least offensive person in sports.
Exactly
Don't hate him at all, but his tears are delicious. They can be like cocaine.
Envy is an ugly thing.
Re: The sidebar ads - Date a trekkie? Really? Have we sunk that low, are there no more one weird exercise tricks?
I will say though, the Vulcan in that ad is the only one I've ever seen since TOS who actually looks like he could be kinda a badarse.
Agammamon|1.20.14 @ 8:31PM|#
"Re: The sidebar ads - Date a trekkie?"
That's now what I'm getting. Mine are cleaning machines for my pool filled with gold coins, special dietary advice for the urchins polishing my monocles, that sort of thing.
What sort of ads do you click on?
The weird thing - I don't click on ads. And I'm pretty sure Reason isn't reading my Pornhub search history or there'd be less trekkie and more redhead threesome.
I get 'Sportsmen for Mitch' (A McConnell Campaign ad)...
I'd much rather date a trekkie, or an Asian, or a Reason writer/editor, or something even more depraved.
An Asian trekkie Reason writer?
Married one.
Cummed on a few. Wait, we're talking about Trekies. Nope. Never done one. Thought you once mentioned your wife is a Jew.
What, are those two mutually exclusive now?
Bring back carpet humping guy!!!
and other topics that may or may not be brought up include hockey fights, Lena Dunham, Spanx, and weird rocks on Mars.
"I literally was spacing out because I'm in such a rage spiral about that guy that I literally could not hear. I'm so sorry. I really don't mean to disrespect you. I just was looking at him and going into this rage, this idea that you would talk to a woman like that and accuse a woman of showing her body too much. The idea, it just makes me sort of sick, and so I apologize to everyone. I'm going to try to focus now, but if I space out, it will be because of that guy."
Still makes me laugh every time I see it. I envy the media critic that got this much rage out of his target bafoon. If only I could be so hated. A feast!
rage spiral
Good lord.
For the story if you missed it:
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/01/20/tca-fights/
Wow, that's ridiculous. It's a legitimate question (I'm guessing, since I don't watch the show). That it bothers them so much points to his suspicions about it ("They are doing it to be salacious") being correct.
Yeah, I suspect from the defensive hysteria on display the hard demographics came back and they now know that 2/3rds of their audience are chubby porn aficionados. If that ever got out there, the ridicule would destroy the career of everyone involved.
I think they are pissed because they are doing it to be salacious and they are still not getting the viewers.
The show gets less viewers then Network.
It's likely the least watched show to feature nudity in the history of cable tv.
I don't see how a weird rock could be disrespectful enough to warrant anger on such a galactic scale.
Ignignokt: Your roommate is a nerd.
Err: Yes, on the moon nerds get their pants pulled down and they are spanked with moon rocks.
NASA workers are fighting over it.
"I don't know what any of this means. We're completely confused, and everyone in the team is arguing and fighting (over what it means)."
http://www.independent.co.uk/n.....70323.html
NASA just needs to be shut the fuck down already.
INDEPENDENTS ASSEMBLE!
The Independents Assemble
Uh... What happened to the P.M. links?
MLK Day! Only racists work.
Rich politician decries rich people. Says income inequality is the test of our time.
"The question before us now is: are we going to continue to be the land of opportunity, social mobility and the nation that forged the largest middle class in human history during the 20th century, or are we going to become a nation of very few haves and millions of have-nots?"
That question might be before us, but the twit being quoted would have no idea how to address it if it were.
The government class being the haves, and the rest of us being the have nots. 🙁
A loose seal could jump through her earrings.
You know what they say about girls that wear hoop earrings...
The bigger the O the bigger the ho.
I'd think wearing stuff that dangles that much would be uncomfortable. But I'm a man with no piercings, so what do I know?
Do you like to get wasted in dive bars and give out handjobs to guys in .38 Special tee-shirts behind the dumpster?
No?
Then shut the fuck up about what you "think". I get my trite sayings from the source and own multiple .38 Special tees.
We'll that escalated quickly.
Knot your tie, Welch. This isn't MTV.
Oh god, a hipster!
Uh oh, Moynihan! Haters assemble!
Or, possibly, there are people who don't like your dumbass policies.
No Mr President, I don't like you because you are a socialist.
But if it isn't racism, then it might be the fact that he's an abysmal president. They can't have that!
Moynihan is inching his way away from the desk right now.
Holy shit, Kmele is black?!?
"You seriously never noticed? Hey, hats off to you for not seeing race."
That reminds me, I need a new bizcasFri monocle.
Most of those 85 people are third-world dictators.
..."a world where the 85 richest people own the wealth of half of the world's population," Oxfam claimed."
I have no idea if this is true, but it's obvious that Oxfam's solution is to make those 85 people poorer rather than make half the world's population richer.
They're imbeciles.
THIS HUMOR IS TOO DRY.
Wait, Moynihan is the liberal on this panel?
It appears so.
Keep the progs on the left.
Sorry, Gavin, weed can alleviate pain.
HANDLE YOUR SHIT.
Did they edit out Moynihan's point?
Weed is strong, you dumbass (though he does have the right attitude towards why it should be legal) because ditch weed sucks monkey balls. There are strains that don't hit you as hard because they've been bred that way. I think Gavin needs to smoke more weed.
His son is Trayvon Martin. Duh.
This probably has been posted:
Let's nationalize Fox News: Imagining a very different media
Yeah, and last week the writer was on whatever TV program this is.
I'm told the hosts gave him a pass, which is why I don't watch whatever TV program this is.
That wasn't the same writer. You're thinking of Jesse Myerson who wrote the Rolling Stone article.
Apologies, but they gave HIM a pass.
Yes, this is a different and older Communist idiot.
Ha, she so nailed those two.
"I'm important!"
I vote puppet!Matt writes his next few articles. Just for fun.
Puppets are creepy.
Like you're not.
I'M NOT THE SUBJECT HERE.
Liberal icon urges Obama impeachment
http://www.wnd.com/2014/01/lib.....peachment/
'The most destructive, dangerous president we've ever had'
I still say LBJ and Wilson, at the least, top Obama in these terms. Obama's legacy may rival LBJs in the long run on the domestic front. Foreign policy, undeclared wars, kill list done without the venerable tradition of plausible deniability these are also factors that will bite us in the ass. Still, WWI, War Socialism, creation of the federal bureaucracy, Federal Reserve system, Vietnam War, kill list in the venerable tradition of plausible deniabilaty, Great Society cyclical poverty, that's a tall hurdle even for the most ambitious asshole to jump.
One positive result of Wilson was that "Progressivism" had its popularity destroyed. They had to rebrand themselves as "liberals," and it took the Depression to get them back in power.
She.
Is.
A.
Freak.
And I like it.
Someone tell Kennedy that taking off her top is illegal in New York. It's not, but she might not know that.
Wait, you want to discourage her from taking her top off? Are you blind?
He's counting on her being reflexively anti-authoritarian.
Boobs can be bad randomly.
I have never even seen cleavage from Kennedy.
Yeah sure she is attractive but for all we know she could be holding a couple of empty flesh colored plastic bags under her shirt.
This is why Postrel hates us.
Exactly. What the fuck is the point of posting that? Would you say that about your friend? I will never understand people who enjoy posting such negative stuff online.
It's one thing to argue, it's another to be awful or troll. I don't get it.
So your problem is not with the poster above asking to see Kennedy's boobs but with me who does not want to see them....
Come on. It's edgy!
Don't you get edgy?
Ten dollar unmentionables?
DORK ALERT
She's nothing compared to the 3 card monty hustlers on the Chicago El. They were trying to get people to do with $50 bills.
Then the pick pockets came into the car, and tried to pick pocket the 3-card-monty scammers.
Luckily got off very quickly after that.
Is that what gets you off?
Hmm, an odd fetish...
NTTAWWT
Oh snap! tossed that one right over the plate, didn't I?
Jeff goes for the bureaucrat jugular right off the bat.
Jeff may be a dork, be he's right on the money.
THIS IS AN ECHO CHAMBER. Where is the dissent?
Are you talking about the show or this thread?
Yes.
What difference, at this point, does it make?!?
If everyone here agrees with me, then I've got just one question: what the fuck is wrong with you people?
Wouldn't belong to a club that'd have you as a member, eh?
I wouldn't go that far, but if there is a potential cult here I can exploit, it doesn't bide well that it caught me by surprise.
Need to have Matt as the straight man in the 3-card-monty scam.
No, wait. Matt is the mark. Kmele as the straight man.
"Wow, this is totally not hard!"
This is a better language commercial.
The ad is in english....
How the fuck is this commercial supposed to inform its target audience?!??!
The Breeders as the bump music? Jesus, go back to the 90s.
Fatty fat fat fat acceptance fatty fat fat.
Anyone posted thin privilege lately?
Hey, fat chicks need love too. But they gotta pay.
Allll right!
Ya fookin fatties.
Moynihan is manic. and his voice reminds me of someone I work with.
Compliments on vice guy's suit.
Libertarian shaming.
Why are there no fat people on this panel? This is completely biased. Someone get Hugh on there.
"I don't care"
#winning
And now we finally see the B-roll of fatties neck down walking down the street.
I doubt Kenendy's daughters need to worry about being fat if they inherited their genes from mom.
Macular degeneration, spinal muscular atrophy, and Bell's palsy will likely all have a cure by the time they get to their mom's age, anyway.
I doubt Episiarch need to worry about being STD-free if he inherited his genes from mom.
Moynihan actually looks like he lost weight since leaving Reason.
That's what happens when you quit gnawing on Postrel's coattails.
That. Just. Happened.
So, let's keep the government out of health care...
Make fun of stoners? Dude, that was my skull!
Welch's carpet apparently matches the drapes and he's ready to prove it.
Matt, on being questioned on being a ginger: "You wanna check?"
The check is to make him stand out in the sun unprotected for ten minutes.
Matt's a vampire too?!?
Soulless creatures.
And now... It's Dennis Rodman, ladies and gentleman!
Who hasn't come out of a blackout to find himself in front of a press conference in North Korea?
Matt should just admit he has no soul, like all gingers.
It's assumed, don't make him say it.
Ronald McDonald Fro? Welch?
Family Guy already did it.
White Castle basically created the idea of a chain restaurant.
Oh sure, Kmele, you've never had a White Castle burger. What are you, and elitist? Wait, I've never had a White Castle burger.
Have you had a Dick's burger on Capital Hill?
Same thing but Dick's have better fries.
I've only gone to the one in Queen Anne, but yes, I've had Dick. Uh, I mean Dick's burgers. They're cheap and shitty, but edible.
Because California is fucked up?
Oh sure, Matt, pile on the stoners to distract from the gingers.
It causes Martian climate change.
Kennedy: "I for one welcome our new insect overlords"
If the goaltenders didn't engage it's not much of a melee.
Now this is what hockey is all about.
Welsh you statist
Welch
He may actually be Welsh.
Did someone say Hockey Fight?
By the way, Francisco, finally did read the origin of the lyrics to that song the other night, hadn't realized it was related.
If only more politicians followed suit...
Apparently the Canucks/Flames the other night was also epic:
http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_.....rawl-roles
I'm bummed I missed it, I love catching the Canucks on hockey night in canada.
That was beautiful.
Both the Avs/Wings, Canucks/Flames were awesome. Hartley is a known goon guy.
But none measured up to any of the Habs/Bruins; Habs/Nordiques; Habs/Flyers; Flyers/Bruins brawls.
Women used to wear corsets and girdles, didn't seem to cause any health problems.
Sure it did, they just died of consumption or plague before they got to their 40's.
The anti-spanx crap is just a revival of the old progressive rational dress movement.
Kmele is tore up from the floor up.
The side effect of Spanx sound like the side effects of being fat. Coincidence?!?
You're just being paranoid
Wait, I watched Friday and I don't remember that.
On O'Reilly?
I see that. Now.
I thought Manufacturing Marvels was on the History Channel. This cross-pollination confuses and enrages me.
And I thought you were "too cool" to live blog The Independents, so we're all out of our comfort zone.
I've decided to slum with you. I'm already regretting it. At least Hugh isn't here.
My wife sleeps to that show on the Science channel...
Is the Upper West Side a rough hood? http://nypost.com/2014/01/19/c.....jaywalked/
"Cops bloodied an 84-year-old man and put him in the hospital Sunday when he jaywalked at an Upper West Side intersection and didn't appear to understand their orders to stop, witnesses said." "His 41-year-old son, a lawyer who would not give his name, first said at the station house Sunday night that did not wish to discuss his feelings about the incident."
Hey, my smug douche alert just went off.
Hypothetical, the NSA stops terrorists. Would you want to stop that, Kennedy.
Yes, I would love to disband the NSA. Next question?
NSA doesn't need to snarf up everything to go after 20 phone numbers were found in the hands of a terrorist.
How about if they call your mom, asshole?
IT'S PANDEMONIUM...IT'S ANARCHY!
The NSA abuses its access, but that's a separate issue about whether the NSA abuses its access.
DON'T TELL PEOPLE THE TRUTH THEY MIGHT GET PISSED
NSA knows whether he'd like to get spanked.
It's why he's on their side.
8 hours with The Database, twitter, and Perl. That's all I need.
Terrorist called 20 numbers in the US?
GET 20 WARRANTS MOTHERFUCKER!
Again, whether or not it's affective is irrelevant. She's right that the 4th Amendment prohibits it. Go through the steps of amending the Constitution if it's so damned necessary.
It is affective. It pisses me off.
Dude, stop giving them ideas.
NSA follows call from Libya and identifies recipients. Then must get individual warrant for each person to go after their info. Easy.
WOW!
Jesus, it looks like someone's head is coming off tonight.
"I'm not touching that"
Way to condescend, Moynihan.
Someone does not want to get invited back
But without the NSA, who would build the spy networks??? It's for the childrunz!
Oh, they moved on to something less interesting. Bummer.
Hold me closer, tiny dictator.
Elton John - Ginger/Songwriter
Did I read that right?
The part of NSA metadata collection that pisses me off is that it was done in secret. If I am supposed to have no expectation of privacy in a certain situation, i'd like to know that.
You're too kind.
A4 says "the government can't do that", regardless of prior warning.
" If I am supposed to have no expectation of privacy in a certain situation, i'd like to know that."
That would not be respecting the privacy of the spook collecting your data.
/s
Look at the right camera, Kmele!
A shot at the Reverend Jackson on MLK Day?
OMFG!
There is a guaranteed income. It's $00,000/year.
I'm not getting that. Who do I complain to?
Uh...Warty?
I pulled his corpse out to get the secretary at work to go out with me. THAT'S WHAT HIS SPEECH MEANT.
Commie is back tomorrow?!?
Michael Ian Black tomorrow? That should be interesting.
AH! Lou Dobbs.
"The President played solitaire with the race card" CLICK.
Screw the live after show, give me Archer.
AHHH!! Lou Dobbs!
AIGHHHH LOU DOBBS
Finishing up with some fat shaming?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMnjF1O4eH0
No one does it better than Freddie
Thank Jeebus The Simpsons are on on another channel.
I'm pretty much caught up on the Simpsons this year. Got this in the other browser tab --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRHGSw4ra3Q
I'm not gay but I want to try this anyway. http://news.yahoo.com/chinese-.....49352.html "A wire connected to his genitals, a Chinese man says doctors administered repeated electric shocks as he watched a pornographic film -- part of treatment he hoped would eliminate his sexual attraction to men."
Yes, nothing stops a man from being gay like showing him tons of gay pornography, telling him he's a filthy animal, and punishing him when he gets aroused.
I'm pretty sure I have gay friends who spend every weekend doing something very similar.
Ambien make your memories kinda hazy?
"Gay friends". Ok, Irish. If you say so. Do you need a new car battery?
I'M STRAIGHT, ALL RIGHT!?!?!
You just like pushing the switch for the electric shock?
But to not be able to listen to Beethoven's 9th without getting sick?!?
Bah, stupid freaking website throwing crap in my copy-paste buffer.
Ivanovic is playing guys
Nice Barbara Steele pic from my tumblr feed.
there might be a reason for Rafa's incessant wedgie picking.
Here's a hockey game that started with a brawl.
OT:
Just finished watching Dallas Buyers Club. I am sure that many will see it as a 2 hour anti-pharma propaganda piece, but for me it was really a lesson in regulatory capture and the dangers of allowing the FDA to be medical gatekeepers.
Oh Florida Man!
Man I always did like the sound of that.
http://www.AnonPlanet.tk