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Politics

Tonight on The Independents: A-Rod Rage, Christie's Acting Skillz, Hillary's Hit List, the French President's Mistress, Sen. Bernie Sanders on the NSA…Plus a Special Overtime Segment!

Matt Welch | 1.13.2014 7:36 PM

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Tonight's episode of The Independents, which airs on Fox Business Network live at 9 pm ET and repeats at midnight, features an interview with a real life independent Senator, none other than the Vermont "democratic socialist," Bernie Sanders. Indie Bernie will talk about his inspired little stunt a few days back of asking the National Security Agency Director Keith Alexander whether the NSA is now or has ever been spying on members of Congress, and also explain how his idea of an expanded social safety net can co-exist with exploding entitlements.

Also appearing on the show: Washington Times Senior Opinion Editor Emily Miller, who drew the ire of many libertarians last week when she Tweeted that "No one gets prison for just smoking pot," and wrote a column warning that "Stoned citizens will further burden the dependency society." Panelists tonight include Democratic political strategist Basil Smikle and Lawfare Project Director Brooke Goldstein, who will chew on Hillary Clinton's reported hit list, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie's promotional/acting skills, and the passing of Israel warhorse Ariel Sharon.

Other topics: Alex Rodriguez's historic steroids suspension, French President Francois Hollande's daring attempt to act as French as humanly possible…plus penis pumps, 420 signs, Times Square costume creeps, and more! Remember to heckle The Independents on Twitter at @IndependentsFBN; some of the more choice efforts will be displayed during the broadcast. Oh–and immediately after the show, there'll be 10 minutes or so of a live stream post-game Web-only thing at foxbusiness.com/on-air/the-independents.

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  1. NotAnotherSkippy   11 years ago

    Ah yes, the lunatic from Vermont. The way that socialism coexists with exploding entitlement spending is to simply raise taxes. That's only fair after all.

    1. Irish   11 years ago

      If everyone was on welfare we'd all be rich.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    What? Another one?

    1. Episiarch   11 years ago

      This is getting ridiculous. How many of these are they going to make? This is worse than the Friday the 13th franchise.

      QUALITY not QUANTITY, that's what FoE's mom always says.

      1. Agammamon   11 years ago

        I thought it was 'yeah, whatever you want, 50 bucks.'

        1. Episiarch   11 years ago

          She delivers a lot of QUALITY for those 50 bucks, Ag.

          1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

            I thought you were implying that YOU were quality. Guess not.

            1. Episiarch   11 years ago

              Don;t be stupid, I would never imply that. That would be asinine. No, I am neither QUALITY or QUANTITY, I am QUAALUDE-ITY. Yup, you heard me.

  3. Agammamon   11 years ago

    Well, at least Archer is on tonight.

    1. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

      Looking forward to that. According to Reed and the producers they are completely changing the status quo of the show to shake things up.

      1. Episiarch   11 years ago

        I am so, so hoping for heavy Miami Vice references and just 80s drug trade references in general. There's a lot of material there, which is why I think Reed chose it.

  4. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

    Tywin Lannister promotes the Olympics for the BBC

    They seem to be taking it a bit too seriously considering that their most famous winter Olympian is Eddie the Eagle Edwards.

    1. The Last American Hero   11 years ago

      I thought Canuckistan still paid them tribute.

    2. Ted S.   11 years ago

      You don't remember Torvill and Dean? Granted, ice dancing is a completely bogus sport, but they still won a gold medal.

      1. Episiarch   11 years ago

        Holy crap I remember them. Damn that was a long time ago. Why do you torment me with memories, Ted? I only want to forget.

    3. Andrew S.   11 years ago

      I don't care if they're taking it too seriously. That was awesome.

    4. Killaz   11 years ago

      Fuck, they show up in Sochi in July, imagine how embarrassing that is going to be for them.

      I read an article a few weeks ago in one of the British dailies on the theme of 'what's the matter with those Yanks, and their inability to keep the days/months/years all proper?' I give credit to some who answered in the accompanying thread for not descending into John Bull intellectual impoverishment by correctly noting that due to fiscal cycles, months are more prominent on office calenders, hence the tradition. However, a great deal of it was the usual cultural chauvinism you would expect. Even when given the correct answer, they would turn it around and complain about he US being a nation of office drones, reveal gross ignorance of their own history ('a nation of clerks').

      1. Killaz   11 years ago

        t he US being a nation of office drones, revealing gross ignorance of their own history ('a nation of clerks').

        Cut out a superfluous phrase, it decided it wasn't going down alone.

  5. Agammamon   11 years ago

    For your edification and enjoyment.

    Nelson Mandela Is Dead.

    1. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

      Thank god we still have Lou Reed.

      1. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

        And Francisco Franco.

        1. Wasteland Wanderer   11 years ago

          And Abe Vigoda.

  6. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

    Some good news: New Mexico Court Holds There is a Right to Physician Assisted Suicide

    http://www.volokh.com/2014/01/.....dividuals/

    1. Calidissident   11 years ago

      And EvH arrives to criticize the decision in 3, 2, 1 ...

      1. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

        The decision is wrong. There.

        1. Calidissident   11 years ago

          Thus saith the Lord

          1. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

            I thought I already debated this. I thought you didn't *want* a replay of that discussion?

            1. Agammamon   11 years ago

              Are you kidding? What else are we going to do all night?

              1. Calidissident   11 years ago

                ^What this guy said.

                Of course we could always debate a deep-dish circumcised gay abortion if you prefer

                1. Calidissident   11 years ago

                  *about

          2. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

            Lord who?

            1. Episiarch   11 years ago

              Lord Nibbler.

        2. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

          Is there even anything in the bible that says you go to Hell for committing suicide?

          Isn't that just Catlick Dogma? (Which was a good movie BTW, if it wasn't Affleck and Maaaaaaaatt Daaaaaaamuuuun.)

          1. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

            "We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance. The Church prays for persons who have taken their own lives."

            http://www.vatican.va/archive/.....s2c2a5.htm

            1. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

              Hey Bernie...answer the question.

              Bible or Dogma?

              Ima gunna have to go with Dogma as your answer based on your evasion.

              1. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

                The link I gave provides the following Biblical citation: "Ex 20:13; Cf. Deut 5:17."

                But even if no Bible had ever been written, even if Moses instead of going to Sinai had become the Undersecretary for Pyramids in the Egyptian Interior ministry, suicide would still be wrong.

                Purely "secular" reasoning suggests that you didn't give yourself life, so how can you take what isn't yours? And there's also the practical arguments about being skeptical of the "voluntary" part of "voluntary suicide" of terminally ill patients under pressure from families and cost-conscious hospitals.

                1. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

                  Plus, it's doubly bad for physicians to get into the killing habit. Organized medicine doesn't even want doctors executing convicted criminals, and there's even a stigma against abortionists. Why expand the social respectability of a healing professional offing people?

                2. Agammamon   11 years ago

                  Nobody *gave* me life, I TOOK it.

                  1. Agammamon   11 years ago

                    And that's not really 'secular' reasoning - you're still operating from a different premise than I am on the origin of human life.

                    Unfortunately, I think that based on the 'someone else gave me life and therefore I don't own it' would 'logically' lead to the conclusion that society should be a pyramid scheme where what I produce and own belongs to my parents and what they produce and own belongs to *their* parents, all the way up to the last surviving predecesor.

                    1. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

                      The parents' contribution to your life is significant, but they didn't *create* life, they just gave it a chance to emerge!

                    2. Agammamon   11 years ago

                      Yeah, well that throws out the whole 'secular logic' thingy then - 'cause that's *religious* logic.

                    3. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

                      Is there a relevant difference between "religious logic" and "operating from a different premise than I am"? 🙂

                    4. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

                      Is there a relevant difference between "religious logic" and "operating from a different premise than I am"?

                      Um...yes.

                    5. Old Man With Candy   11 years ago

                      My parents "created" my life, but I'm their heir, so it's mine, mine, mine.

                3. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

                  Purely "secular" reasoning suggests that you didn't give yourself life, so how can you take what isn't yours?

                  No offense Ed, but that may be the most idiotic thing you've ever said here.

                  There is nothing in this universe that's more mine than my life. I will do with it as I see fit.

                  If not mine, then whose?

                4. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

                  And, thou shalt not kill? That's all ya got?

                  Thou shalt not kill what? Can I kill cows? Can I kill in self defense? If you are going to take those words that literally then you must think you're going to hell for killing in self defense. Where do you stand on the death penalty?

                  1. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

                    It's hard to find an exact English translation for the Hebrew word translated "kill," and the meaning isn't exactly self-evident. Among Jews and Christians who believe in this commandment, there is a certain interpretive tradition, reaching back a couple millennia or so. Part of the point of being, say, a Catholic or Orthodox Jew is that one has the benefit of such a tradition, including the suicide interpretation above.

                    But my other point was that you don't have to be a religious nutter to disbelieve in a particular kind of killing.

                    1. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

                      In any case, the role of physicians in the proposed physician assisted suicide laws is a BIG problem. So is the cost-cutting-hospital context in which many of these cases arise. These practical objections should occur to anyone, whether Christian, Pastafarian, or Browns fan, who looks behind the rhetoric.

    2. Agammamon   11 years ago

      No, there's no *right* to physician assisted suicide.

      That would imply that you could force physicians to assist you in killing yourself.

      1. SIV   11 years ago

        ^This^

      2. Gilbert Martin   11 years ago

        Conversly there is also no "right" to require the assistance of anyone else to keep you alive if you cannot function on your own and do not wish to die.

        You may own your own life but you do not own anyone else's to compel their assistance.

  7. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

    "...Then there's 17-year-old Cody Chitwood of Cobb County, Ga. Police charged him with a felony for bringing weapons into a school zone. The "weapons" were fishing knives, and they were in a tackle box in Cody's truck....

    Once upon a time, it made sense to insist that ignorance was no excuse for violating the law. Today, that maxim often sounds like a cruel joke. Let's work to ensure that people are criminally punished only for wrongdoing, not for ignorance of laws that they had no reason to think existed in the first place."

    http://www.nationalreview.com/.....an-bernick

    1. Agammamon   11 years ago

      No, every person should carry around the full list of all local, state, and federal laws and regulations.

      We have the technology, all it needs is a new agency to purchase tablet computers from a politically favored supplier and provide subsidies for everyone to purchase those tablets.

  8. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    Bernie Sanders explains why the government is allowed to kick the shit out of everyone:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBIKP4W50-I

  9. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

    "The institutional Left hates homeschooling, hates it with a remarkable intensity, even though homeschooling recently has come into vogue with a certain subset of Park Slope?style progressives. Robin West of Georgetown's law school has written admiringly of the suppression of homeschooling and regimes under which "parents who did so were criminals." She writes that homeschoolers are dangerous precisely because of the fact that, far from being docile sheep, homeschoolers are as adults more likely to be politically engaged, which Professor West worries might "undermine, limit, or destroy state functions that interfere with family and parental rights." For good measure, she notes that many homeschoolers were enthusiastic about George W. Bush in 2000 ? quelle horreur....

    "In the case of the Romeike family, a judge already had seen fit to offer them asylum, but the Obama administration wants to hand them over to the Germans...."

    http://www.nationalreview.com/.....williamson

    1. Derpetologist   11 years ago

      Catholic schools teach that Catholicism is best.
      Jewish schools teach that Judaism is best.
      Government schools teach that government is best.

      -paraphrased from a commenter whose name escapes me.

  10. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

    INDEPENDENTS ASSEMBLE!

    1. Bobarian   11 years ago

      Jumping the gun just a tad, aren't we?

      1. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

        10 till 9. M,T,W,F

        1. Bobarian   11 years ago

          Made me watch Kahbootow talk about sex aids...

      2. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

        Need to leave time for Serious to post inspirational music.

        1. Ted S.   11 years ago

          Like this?

          1. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

            SF'd link

            Now you see why only I perform the task of setting the mood for The Independents.

            1. Ted S.   11 years ago

              Let's see if I get it right this time.

    2. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MVonyVSQoM

    3. Ted S.   11 years ago

      POLITICIANS DISSEMBLE!

  11. Archduke von Pantsfan   11 years ago

    You can watch this garbage, I'm watching Tennis.

    1. Ted S.   11 years ago

      Unfortunately, ESPN tends to give us the same few Americans over and over and over.

  12. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

    Why is Kennedy wearing a Tron suit?

    1. Bobarian   11 years ago

      Wait until she gets out the Frisbee...

  13. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    OT: Is David Suzuki the slimiest global warming twit?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0nWrItaY1g

    1. Agammamon   11 years ago

      No, he's just the most obviously clueless. I'm not sure what happened to the guy but he went for scientist to science reporter and never looked back.

  14. Pompey   11 years ago

    The pirate stream doesn't work today. 🙁

    Any bets that ol' Bernie is going to get his ass kissed?

    1. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

      This one worked for me, somehow got to it off the usual site:

      http://www.zenex.tv/foxbusiness11

      1. Pompey   11 years ago

        Thank you kindly. It works!

  15. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE.

  16. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Why not Snookie?

  17. Bobarian   11 years ago

    Welch does a fine Swarzenegger inpersonation.

  18. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    The commercials had to be filmed in widescreen. That's more expensive.

    1. Bobarian   11 years ago

      Fat jokes? Isn't that above you?

      1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

        Hey, when I sit around the house thinking fat jokes up...

  19. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

    Welch was right about one thing - this "ad" bullshit is a useless fucking distraction.

  20. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Bridgeghazi only killed a woman.

  21. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

    And he's fat.

  22. Agammamon   11 years ago

    Wait, they had a guy on, on the 10th, who admits to being an "Occupy Wallstreet Leader" and they're took him seriously?

  23. Episiarch   11 years ago

    Is every single TEAM RED member who goes on this show going to sandbag Christie? Because that would be awesome.

    1. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

      No one seems to like him. Repubs see a sinking ship and Democrats see the chance to destroy their greatest threat.

    2. Irish   11 years ago

      Unless they have Karl Rove or some hardcore establishment hack on, I think that's to be expected. The conservatives despise Christie.

  24. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    This just in: Libertarian wants to do away with roads.

  25. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Huh, Hitlary and I have the same enemies list.

    1. Episiarch   11 years ago

      I'd move Chris Dodd to #1.

    2. PapayaSF   11 years ago

      I should think that's only part of your enemies list, the other part being her friends list.

  26. Agammamon   11 years ago

    Is there any place livestreaming this? I *have* a tv but its only hooked up to the computer.

    1. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

      http://www.zenex.tv/foxbusiness11

      1. Agammamon   11 years ago

        Thank you.

  27. Bobarian   11 years ago

    Kill em with kindness?

    Fake their suicide?

  28. Episiarch   11 years ago

    Ohh, the TEAM RED chick is going all Muslim Brotherhood conspiracy. Nice. You can't beat cute and wacky.

    1. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

      Yeah, way to live down to the Fox stereotype.

      1. Episiarch   11 years ago

        Now they're talking about Israel...where will she go?

        Damn, that was less interesting than I hoped.

  29. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    When she's got something in her teeth...

  30. Max Power   11 years ago

    If tax free zones are so great, why don't they make all of NY a tax free zone?

  31. Episiarch   11 years ago

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    They just played a New York ad for tax free zones and want businesses to move there. Yeah, that's a great use of your money in Seattle, New York.

  32. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

    Feminist writer reads a bit too much into the Pope's endorsement of public breast-feeding.

    Pope: If your baby is hungry, feed it, even in church.

    Journalist Evi Quinn: "What he was essentially saying was that the human body is beautiful and that there's nothing shameful about showing it off in public?especially in church. This was a ringing endorsement of public nudity and of the liberation of the female body. At one point while he was speaking, he pointed upward, as if to say, 'Do not be afraid. Look up at all the boobage in this place [Sistine Chapel]. You are not alone.'"

    1. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

      Picked the wrong time to troll. Keep watching the fascinating TV show.

    2. seguin   11 years ago

      I get the feeling a lot of progressives actually bought all the critical analysis crap they were taught in AP English instead of seeing it for what it was: competitive bullshitting.

  33. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

    Ay, Sharon-a.

  34. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    "I think the only chance for peace in the Middle East is to nuke 'em all and let Allah sort 'em out."

  35. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

    "You don't like the muzzers" LOL

  36. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

    Think of the Muslim children---as we rain drone bombs upon them

    1. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

      We have to blow them up to see what's in them.

  37. Episiarch   11 years ago

    I'm gonna have to go on record as being a fan of Ms. Goldstein. She does slightly nuts in a really articulate way.

    1. Irish   11 years ago

      That was a little more than slightly nuts.

      1. Episiarch   11 years ago

        I'm being generous; she's charmed me. With well-spoken insanity. Stop interrupting, Kmele!

  38. Irish   11 years ago

    I just turned on the T.V. in time to see this Republican woman start talking about the Middle East.

    Holy cow, is this woman dumb.

    "Yes, I believe the way to stop problems in the Middle East is to have parents stop teaching terrorism."

    "Is...is that all?"

    "Yes. Stop teach terrorism. NOOOO terrorism. Terrorism bad."

    1. Episiarch   11 years ago

      DON'T TALK SHIT ABOUT CRAZY BROOKE

    2. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

      Why do you want Muslim children blowing themselves up?

    3. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

      So really, it's a problem with outdated textbooks.

    4. playa manhattan   11 years ago

      Has she cited Farfur the Mouse yet?

    5. Sevo   11 years ago

      Isn't this a re-run?
      "Just say NO!"

  39. Irish   11 years ago

    "I think you have to completely remove yourself from reality..."

    Well, you seem to have a head start on that!

  40. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

    You dream about muzzer gang-bangs, don't you Brooke?

  41. Irish   11 years ago

    Is 'I Co-produced my movie with Palestinians" the Middle East version of "Some of my best friends are black?"

  42. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

    Is butt the fuck out an option?

  43. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Is Brooke just here to push her movie?

  44. Episiarch   11 years ago

    Holy shit Kenendy's look at her was amazing. I can't believe they stayed on that for that long. This is fun!

    1. Irish   11 years ago

      I missed that. Was it a flirty look? Because Kennedy has a bizarre tendency to hit on the female guests.

      1. Episiarch   11 years ago

        No, it was a deer in the headlights "what the fuck are you talking about" look. It was pretty great. It was only on for about 2-3 seconds.

        1. Timon 19   11 years ago

          That was great. Saw it instantly. Rewound it three times for my wife who didn't get the context. My wife overthinks things and doesn't see what's right in front of her way too often while watching stuff like that.

          "Honey, Kennedy thinks that bitch be crazy!"

    2. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

      That was outstanding camera direction.

  45. Bobarian   11 years ago

    This conversation is really horrible in this format

  46. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

    Did she just call Sanders a total statist? Is it me, or is Kennedy on fire tonight?

  47. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

    I have a solution to the Palestine-Israel problem:

    We have Huda Naccache mud-wrestle with Esti Ginzburg

    Winner gets to decide the issue.

    1. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

      Not permanently, though. Just for a 2-week period. Then rematch.

  48. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    I want them to spit every time they say the word socialist.

  49. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    "Hello, Senator, you crazy old fuck."

  50. SweatingGin   11 years ago

    Just turned it on... HOLY SHIT THIS IS WHAT BERNIE SANDERS LOOKS LIKES.

  51. Bobarian   11 years ago

    How'd they respond?

    Fuck off, Senator!

  52. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Ha, Bernie is solely concerned about political blackmail.

    1. Bobarian   11 years ago

      Bernie's got some stuff in his background to hide?

      1. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

        The most scandalous thing is the thing he boasts of most openly.

  53. playa manhattan   11 years ago

    If you had a Nixon type! If!

  54. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    THANK GOD WE DON'T HAVE A RICHARD NIXON TYPE IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

  55. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

    Reminder: this is a man who became a socialist after living on an Israeli kibbutz during the 1960s

  56. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

    IF you had a Richard-Nixon-type as POTUS. *IF*.

    1. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

      God damn you playa!

      1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

        And Fist.

  57. Episiarch   11 years ago

    Why the fuck does Bernie Sanders talk like Doc Brown from Back to the Future? I need him to scream at Marty about Ethiopians.

  58. Agammamon   11 years ago

    " . . . If you had a Richard Nixon type . . .

    Yeah, or a Bill Clinton type, or a Barack Obama type, or a George W Bush type.

    1. Episiarch   11 years ago

      Or a Bernie Sanders type.

    2. Bobarian   11 years ago

      Or any other type who wants the job of president

  59. Irish   11 years ago

    They should ask him the following question:

    "Given that you are concerned with the privacy of American citizens, how can you advocate a socialized medical system which requires massive amounts of personal information and medical records to be collected by the government? Isn't that massively hypocritical, nonsensical, and unprincipled?"

    1. VG Zaytsev   11 years ago

      The government medical system will be run by good saintly people that do it out of love, not for dirty profit.

      Next Question:

      You mean totally unlike every other government agency?

  60. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Get your facts right, Welch! Social security is so totally solvent.

  61. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

    What's the matter, Senator Sanders, chicken?

  62. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

    A spoonful of democracy makes the socialism go down.

  63. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

    Steal from the rich.

    I'm shocked.

  64. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    You can't spell socialism without a social security, Kennedy.

  65. playa manhattan   11 years ago

    Europe does it!!!

  66. SweatingGin   11 years ago

    Senator Sanders: what's the max number of retired people I should have to support? 1/3? 1/2? When it hits 1:1, I want my sponsored decrepit's name, picture, and brief biography, like those "sponsor a kid in Africa" commercials.

    1. Bobarian   11 years ago

      For less than $.33 a day, you can sponsor someone just like... Bernie?

      1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

        He grafted enough not to have to worry. Worst case, he can write an occasional sponsored article/op-ed.

    2. Agammamon   11 years ago

      Why? Are you going to track them down to their RV they live in while wintering over in Yuma?

      Get ahold of me, I can tell you where the snowbirds congregate.

      Them's good hunting - .22 rifle from the orchard next door and BAM! some old lady's rat lap-dog is running for safety, yipping all the way.

      1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

        I'm not hunting old people. And certainly not talking about hunting old people ON THE INTERNET.

        1. Agammamon   11 years ago

          No, no, no - not hunting *old people*, hunting 'stray dogs'.

          1. seguin   11 years ago

            You shoot the dogs of people you don't like?

            So...you're kind of a shithead, huh?

  67. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Oh, Kmele. You're just toying with Sanders with that question.

  68. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

    Run ya crazy son of a bitch, run! I'd love to see him take on Hilary in a primary debate.

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      They must mean for Senate,.

  69. Episiarch   11 years ago

    INCOME DISPARITY INEQUALITY BLAH BLAH

    Do we really have a disappearing middle class? He, and people like him, say this shit...do they have the slightest amount of "evidence"?

    1. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

      They hold these things to be self-evident.

    2. Irish   11 years ago

      We certainly have a middle class that's getting ground to dust in highly expensive progressive cities like San Francisco and New York.

      Oh! That's not what he meant?

    3. playa manhattan   11 years ago

      If it is happening, and I say IF, it is directly because of liberal policies.

      These days, you're either a maker or a taker.

    4. Irish   11 years ago

      I've also never seen a Democrat explain why the middle class votes Republican if the Democrats are the ones who want what's best for them.

      After all, the Democrat argument about why black people vote Democrat is because Democrats are trying to help black people. By that logic, doesn't it stand to reason that the middle class votes Republican because the Democrats are actively opposed to middle class interests?

      Ah, but here I am asking for logical consistency!

      1. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

        I've also never seen a Democrat explain why the middle class votes Republican

        I've seen it. The explanation is that they are duped into voting against their self-interests.

        Were you hoping for something more in depth?

        1. Irish   11 years ago

          No. A regurgitation of Marxist false consciousness is about what I've come to expect out of the Democratic party.

        2. SweatingGin   11 years ago

          False consciousness?

          1. PapayaSF   11 years ago

            I thought "racism" explained pretty much everything these days.

          2. seguin   11 years ago

            Yeah. "False consciousness." It's one of their favorite excuses, along with "It's never been truly tried!" and "ASTROTURF"

    5. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

      Do you feel middle-class Epi? Do you feel like you're middle class when once upon a time in the 1950s the rich were taxed at 90% and government spent money on everything?

      Do you feel middle class when today the Waltons have a lot more than you?

  70. SweatingGin   11 years ago

    Topical storm?!? Too early! Change bad!

  71. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Hollande should call Gingrich and Edwards for advice.

    1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

      Why not go straight to the master? Clinton.

  72. Pompey   11 years ago

    Sweet softball questions for Sen. Sanders, guys. Way to pass over that "Nixon type" golden opportunity by the way.

  73. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

    For the record, Holland cheated on his previous significant other to be with his current girlfriend.

    Not sure what she was expecting.

    1. Episiarch   11 years ago

      "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me seven or more times, shame on me."

    2. PapayaSF   11 years ago

      Interestingly, the new babe is younger but not nearly as good-looking.

  74. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

    And, Kennedy finally loses it. Awesome.

  75. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    This is very unprofessional.

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      They're drunk, aren't they?

      1. Agammamon   11 years ago

        They think they're on a morning talk show.

      2. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

        They filmed this episode 9:30am this morning. That's the bad part.

        1. Ted S.   11 years ago

          It's always happy hour somewhere!

          1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

            It's happy hour in SweatingGin's kitchen

        2. Agammamon   11 years ago

          Good Morning America or one of those shows have two women hosts who are always getting blitzed while hosting. Typically right on camera.

          1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

            FCC, asleep at the switch.

          2. Ted S.   11 years ago

            Kathie and Hoda Lee Gifford are the final (8572748525784th) hour of the Today show.

  76. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

    One Swedish-made budget enlarging pump!

  77. SweatingGin   11 years ago

    Cut to commercial! She's giggling out!

  78. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

    It's not mine, baby. Someone's playing a joke on me, baby.

  79. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    PUT ON YOUR BIG BOY PANTS, COLORADO.

    1. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

      If you used Carl, they could be bigger-boy pants.

    2. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      stay cool... he doesn't know we're high... heheheh...hah

  80. Episiarch   11 years ago

    Anyone who goes to Times Square is a tourist and gets everything they deserve.

    1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

      My dad's office was on Times Square for +/- 5 years. Never got around to visiting, though.

      1. Episiarch   11 years ago

        Good move. Even going to a Broadway show you should go around Times Square and hit the theater from a different direction.

  81. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    The statue in the park has lost his crown.

  82. Bobarian   11 years ago

    That almost makes me want to go to Times Square

    1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

      To see two Spider-Mans making out?

  83. playa manhattan   11 years ago

    A-rod's fucked. No way he'll file in federal court. Discovery's a bitch.

  84. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    He's on the phone with his attorney who advises he takes the fifth.

  85. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

    Hey are you on the phone?
    Yeah.
    Cool, do you think....

    LOL, again.

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      I lolled

  86. Episiarch   11 years ago

    Of course a Jets fan doesn't know who A-Rod is. He's probably never heard of the Yankees, just the Mets.

    1. Ted S.   11 years ago

      A-Rod is a retired tennis player that ESPN fellated for years, disappointed that Roger Federer won everything that was supposed to be his.

      1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

        Speaking of tennis, I see the Wolf of Wall Street guy around town quite a bit, and apparently he plays tennis with Jeff Tarango everyday. I wonder how much those lessons cost?

        1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

          Does it include throwing rackets at the net?

  87. playa manhattan   11 years ago

    "Hard hitting reporting!"

  88. SweatingGin   11 years ago

    "Hard hitting reporting". And they lose it again.

    1. Bobarian   11 years ago

      So... are they on the weed?

  89. GILMORE   11 years ago

    Matt is the only one who gives a shit about A-Rod

    1. GILMORE   11 years ago

      Sorry = about Baseball

  90. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

    I don't even like hockey.

    1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

      Bobby, foosball is the devil!

      1. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

        Ma, ma, mama says Vicki Vallencourt is da debil.

        1. Agammamon   11 years ago

          And in interest of taking a joke too far

          And I like Vicki, and she like me back! And she showed me her boobies and I like them too!

          1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

            No, that was the right amount.

  91. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    PLAY BY THE RULES YOU AGREED TO.

  92. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    I want robots playing against each other.

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      The steroid debates in baseball are going to look so stupid once the cyborg leagues are integrated.

      1. Episiarch   11 years ago

        That will all pale in comparison to Major League Blernsball.

      2. VG Zaytsev   11 years ago

        They'll clean up the majors for the purity of the game and then attendance will plummet because it's so fucking booorrrrriiiinnngggg zzzzzz.

    2. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

      If by robots, you mean lipstick lesbians.

      1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

        Fembots ok?

  93. SweatingGin   11 years ago

    Matt with the baseball conspiracy theory.

    And then Kmele with the anti-baseball digs again.

  94. GILMORE   11 years ago

    PROOF. I already knew kennedy was WGAF -Kmele admits: Boring

  95. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Babe Ruth played with performance degrading drugs.

  96. Episiarch   11 years ago

    Did Kennedy just accuse Matt of playing for the other team?

    1. GILMORE   11 years ago

      It was code language for, "you play fantasy baseball, dont you, you loser"

    2. OldMexican   11 years ago

      Was an accusation even necessary?

    3. Irish   11 years ago

      Accuse? Epi, Welch's life choices are not a crime.

      If Welch wants to grind up against a sweaty lumberjack in the privacy of his own home or on a public merry go round or whatever, then that's his decision to make.

      1. Agammamon   11 years ago

        Speaking of which, what happened to Jesse.in.mb?

        1. Irish   11 years ago

          I heard he was in Germany. Don't know if he's back yet.

          1. Agammamon   11 years ago

            Oh, that's right - bathhouse tour.

            Good thing he didn't go to Thailand, we'd never get him back here.

            1. jesse.in.mb   11 years ago

              Oh please. I was able to leave Thailand just fine. Germans are way more my thing. Although there was a very handsome fellow in Bangkok working the bar HotMale. I highly recommend it.

              1. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

                Welcome back.

              2. playa manhattan   11 years ago

                Can I post a portion of your Facebook message?

                1. jesse.in.mb   11 years ago

                  Of course.

                2. playa manhattan   11 years ago

                  Me: "The commentariat hopes you banged a lot of hot German dudes and looks forward to hearing about it."

                  Jesse: "There was also a Bosniak, Italian and Venezuelan dude."

                  ^^^ Hi-Five for this guy!!!!

                  1. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

                    How does this stack up?

                    http://alphadesigner.com/wp-co.....ay-men.png

                    1. jesse.in.mb   11 years ago

                      No idea. I didn't end up in any dungeons.

                    2. playa manhattan   11 years ago

                      Jesse, while you were gone, Serious said he looks just like Ryan Gosling. I was going to make fun of him, but I pass the torch along to you.

                    3. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

                      I only meant there was a curious resemblance in one photo I saw of him where his hair was buzz cut like mine.

                    4. playa manhattan   11 years ago

                      Curious resemblance? After I claimed I was extremely good looking, you said you were too, and cited it as a source. Check Mate!

                      *drops mic and then catches it on the way down*

                    5. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

                      I can still be good looking and have somewhat of a resemblance to a movie star.

                      And it's just the face, I certainly don't have his body that causes female movie goers everywhere to flood their panties.

                    6. jesse.in.mb   11 years ago

                      To quote Warrren:

                      "Why hello!"

                    7. playa manhattan   11 years ago

                      I might have missed that. Does Jugwine Warren play for the other team too?

                    8. jesse.in.mb   11 years ago

                      He just says "why hello!" a lot at awkward moments.

          2. playa manhattan   11 years ago

            He got back this weekend. I'll inquire what the problem is.

            1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

              He has been summoned.

    4. Ted S.   11 years ago

      For cosmotarians like them, aren't straight people the other team?

      1. VG Zaytsev   11 years ago

        Boom goes the dynamite!

  97. playa manhattan   11 years ago

    I'ma like this next segment!

  98. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

    Will they please ask the anti-pot lady why she's using the same bullshit arguments against pot that liberals use against guns.

  99. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

    AHHHHHH LOU DOBBS!!!!

    In 14 minutes.

  100. Episiarch   11 years ago

    Krystin Ritter is advertising Proactiv? I'm so disillusioned.

  101. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    What's released in my mouth?

    1. Bobarian   11 years ago

      Carl?

      1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

        With a K.

  102. Bobarian   11 years ago

    Government has been involved in B-Ball since the BlackSox.

    1. Episiarch   11 years ago

      We need a new Arnold Rothstein to fix another World Series.

  103. GILMORE   11 years ago

    You can't mess with perfection

    But you can moisturize it.

    What the fuck?

    1. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

      Dicks. He's talking about dicks.

    2. Ted S.   11 years ago

      Many men find women in a tight T-shirt hot.

      Add moisture by putting her in a tight, wet T-shirt, and she's even hotter.

      1. GILMORE   11 years ago

        I'm having a crazy idea where we could have a contest in a bar... just brainstorming here...

  104. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    The 420 Amendment.

  105. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

    The circular reasoning is stunning.

  106. Irish   11 years ago

    What happened, Emily Miller? I thought you were cool.

  107. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

    It's wrong because it's illegal.

  108. GILMORE   11 years ago

    "Because DRUGS!"

    ...

  109. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Who's allowed to research with marijuana??? LOCK THEM UP FOR POSSESSION.

  110. SweatingGin   11 years ago

    Jebus, this is brutal. She was about to hang herself on "we as a society"

    Let her.

  111. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

    THERE'S NO HEALTH BENEFITS FOR MARIJUANA

  112. Episiarch   11 years ago

    The gun chick is a fucking retard prohibitionist. Way to break out of the conservative moron stereotype. At least Kennedy is hassling her for her stupidity.

    I am going to get so stoned as soon as I get back from my errands.

  113. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

    derp

    Republican idiot.

  114. Irish   11 years ago

    Her argument about health benefits is moronic. A shot of tequila has no health benefit and yet we don't make it illegal.

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      Don't give her any ideas.

  115. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

    It should only be legal if it's good for you.

    Solid logic, Emily. Good work.

  116. GILMORE   11 years ago

    No positive health benefits.

    Neither does a fucking twinkie.

  117. Irish   11 years ago

    'There's so much money in this business.'

    Which is why it should be legalized! I call it the 'marijuana instant jobs and tax revenue program!'

  118. Episiarch   11 years ago

    Yeah, Emily, there's a ton of money in it. For the fucking cops and the prisons. Fuck she's stupid.

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      Seems like Kmele's "give me a number" could work on someone that wasn't a true believer.

      "It must be less than 16 trillion, right? More than a buck? So, to avoid the damage from weed, how much should society pay? Just a number. Pick one."

  119. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    DOES NOT COMPUTE.

  120. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

    She's outright lying.

  121. Pompey   11 years ago

    Fucking THC toxicity, how does that work?

  122. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

    Marijuana: You don't want any of this shit!

  123. Irish   11 years ago

    Shorter Emily Miller: Guns should be legal because I like them. Pot should be illegal because I don't.

  124. Episiarch   11 years ago

    There's so many lies and fallacies in her argument that you have to wonder if she's just a robot programmed by Mel Sembler.

    And Kmele just handed her her ass.

  125. GILMORE   11 years ago

    why do they let these fucking people get away with ridiculous counter factuals? You don't need to yell at them - you can just go, "that actually isn't true".

    Her scare data about "addicts" is basically saying, "we categorize people who choose to consume X, ADDICTED, where if they consume Y, they've GOT TASTES"

  126. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Emily get your gun.

  127. GILMORE   11 years ago

    I'm a girl and don't yell at me.

  128. Irish   11 years ago

    It must be awkward arguing against pot when all of the hosts of this show are probably high right now.

    1. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

      Of course they are -- it's ADDICTIVE.

  129. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Go National. Make it so.

  130. GILMORE   11 years ago

    Also = I give Kmele a pound for at least *trying* to get the bitch to acknowledge that the Drug War hasn't exactly been the most cost-beneficial program for certain aspects of the population.

  131. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Kmele got sidetracked doing internet research...

  132. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

    Kmele, your line is "you all look alike to me"

  133. Irish   11 years ago

    Kmele: "I believe him. I don't need a paternity test to prove it."

    Kmele has apparently adopted the Emily Miller scientific method: Whatever I believe to be true, is magically true.

    1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

      I couldn't tell it was sarcasm. I hope so.

      1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

        *if*

    2. Lady Bertrum   11 years ago

      Joking. He was trying a funny.

      1. Lady Bertrum   11 years ago

        LEAVE KMELE ALONE!

      2. Irish   11 years ago

        It was obviously a joke. I know that.

        1. Lady Bertrum   11 years ago

          (narrowing eyes) Well, alright then.

    3. Agammamon   11 years ago

      Which one is yours?

      The black one.

      Oh, right - makes sense.

  134. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Mike Lee is stealing Stossel's bit.

  135. Episiarch   11 years ago

    Hey Kmele, you're getting close to realizing that it's all bullshit! You're almost there, keep going!

  136. SweatingGin   11 years ago

    No one told them to stop printing, of course they are still printing it.

  137. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    AH! Lou Dobbs.

  138. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

    WHAT? Only at midnight? FUCK THAT

  139. Episiarch   11 years ago

    AAIIGHHHHH LOU DOBBS

  140. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

    Alright, it's Archer time! Welcome to the Danger Zone!

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      Thanks for the reminder.

  141. GILMORE   11 years ago

    John Stossel can do anything.

  142. SweatingGin   11 years ago

    Ahh!!! Lou Dobbs!

  143. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

    Did she just say no 9PM show for the rest of the week?

  144. Irish   11 years ago

    Is this going to become an Archer thread?

    1. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

      I sure hope that was a dream sequence.

    2. Episiarch   11 years ago

      Fuck you, I don't get it for hours. You know what? To hell with you, I'm going to go buy some weed so that I have a new strain to smoke before Archer later.

      1. Irish   11 years ago

        You should say "To Emily Miller!" and raise the bag solemnly in the air before you light up. You know, in her honor.

    3. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      Wait... I have something for this...

    4. Agammamon   11 years ago

      Well, its certainly not going to become a Lou Dobbs thread.

  145. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    What the fuck is the car auction? It's preempting the show this week.

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      Wah? Seriously?

      1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

        Fox Biz isn't at all a second rate network.

    2. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

      Wounded Warrior car auction?

      1. db   11 years ago

        I heard a commercial on the radio earlier for a workers' comp attorney. I swear to god their web site is "woundedworker.com"

        If that is not disrespectful in some way, I must need recalibration.

    3. seguin   11 years ago

      Barrett-Jackson?

  146. GILMORE   11 years ago

    Apparently they're only allowed to say things like, "The Drug War is bad" on the un-televised after-show.

    All the obvious points get to be made in the secure confines of a live-stream.

  147. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

    Speaking of the boob tube, it's Popes Gone Wild!

    http://reason.com/blog/2014/01.....nt_4242379

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      Shorter Eddy: PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEEE!!!!

      🙂

      1. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

        It's hard out there for a troll

  148. GILMORE   11 years ago

    Kmele just said Kanye West was in Monsters Ball?

    What? No he wasn't.

  149. Archduke von Pantsfan   11 years ago

    The famous movie lines you've been saying wrong

    1. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

      Fairly weak sauce - fairest of them all versus fairest one of all. The meaning is the same, the audience just did some stylistic improvements.

      The one misunderstanding that may affect the meaning is:

      "Field Of Dreams (1989)

      "What everyone says: If you build it, they will come.

      "What the actual line is: If you build it, he will come."

      The first version sounds like it's in the same genre as "build a better mousetrap and the world will build a path to your door." A pep talk for business people.

      *he* will come sounds less business-y and more creepy.

      1. VG Zaytsev   11 years ago

        Eduard

        Serious question for you.

        On redstate today some moron claimed that advocating for legalization of marijuana was a religious sini.

        Is there any mainstream Christian church that makes that claim? And on what basis if there is.

        1. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

          I'm afraid I don't know what a religious sini is. 🙁

          1. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

            Unless you meant *Sinai* -

            When I was high upon the mountain, God revealed the truths of the earth...

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kRAKXFrYQ4

            1. Agammamon   11 years ago

              So they advocate *for* drugs then?

        2. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

          Look, seriously, not all Christian churches are down with legalized weed or its advocates, just as not all atheists/agnostics are into libertarianism in general.

          I regret that I don't have specific links, but I could always look if you're curious. Have a wonderful day!

          1. VG Zaytsev   11 years ago

            I'm fine with religious people wanting to keep the current legal scheme, ok not really but I'm not going to automatically hate them for that position.

            But I was kind of shocked that someone would claim that merely advocating a change in the law regarding weed was a sin against god.

            I've got a fair amount of religious education as a kid and I think that it's a really big stretch to claim that taking drugs recreationally is in and of itself a sin, let alone saying that someone who does should not be locked in a cage or have their house shot up.

            So I'm curious if you've ever encountered or are aware of a religious claim like that.

            1. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

              That calling for dope to be legal is a sin? No, haven't encountered that. Bill O'Reilly seemed to verge on it in one program I saw, but I don't think he's a representative Catholic, and he didn't speak 7n theological categories or mention his religion.

              1. VG Zaytsev   11 years ago

                Yeah I was pretty sure that he was just some knuckle dragging moron talking out of his ass.

              2. VG Zaytsev   11 years ago

                Bill O'Reilly seemed to verge on it in one program I saw

                Yeah, he's an absolute asshole zealot on the issue. It amazes me how so many people get so stupid over the issue of drugs.

          2. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

            And looking only at my own neck of the ecclesiastical woods, I found some Papal and Vatican statements about how drugs should be illegal, but nothing high-level enough to suggest that conscientious dope-legalizers are sinners (unless they use the stuff themselves). I don't think that a Catholic calling for emptying the prisons of victims of the War on Dope would be sinning.

            1. VG Zaytsev   11 years ago

              Good point.

              1. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

                Now, Pope Francis opposed legalization in a Youth Day address in Brazil, and in the diplomatic realm they lobby for some form of war on drugs (while giving a pastoral focus re users), but my meaning is that I don't think these statements are on the same level as encyclicals, etc. So in Catholic terms I think the legal dope question can still be deemed open for discussion, unlike say the renunciation of Satan at baptism (the Episcopalians just made that optional, which is not the Catholic approach).

            2. VG Zaytsev   11 years ago

              Regarding the religious argument for making drugs illegal, I don't see how the person arguing so can possibly be in favor of legalizing some drubs and making others illegal. If intoxication is a sin, then it is still a sin even if a doctor says that it is ok.

  150. Killaz   11 years ago

    'She told me to destroy my guns': Sean Penn hints Charlize Theron is the 'strong woman' who got him to gets rid of his 65 'cowardly killing machines'

    Hollywood culture is so fucked up, a woman who would be presently dead if not for her mother shooting her abusive father has been brain washed into a raging hoplophobe.

    1. Killaz   11 years ago

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvs.....earms.html

    2. playa manhattan   11 years ago

      I, for one, don't trust a man who only owns 65 guns.

      In the words of my grandfather:
      "That pussy is some strong shit!"

      1. Killaz   11 years ago

        I only have seven currently. But you are completely right to treat me with suspicion.

        1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

          I only have 8 +2 not working (yet). It was more of a dig at Penn, who went to the trouble of collecting 65 guns before changing his mind about gun ownership. It tells me all I need to know about him.

    3. Agammamon   11 years ago

      So, what the hell is Penn slinging that that woman would end up with him?

  151. Archduke von Pantsfan   11 years ago

    Walton Manor for sale.

    Not those Waltons.

  152. Cytotoxic   11 years ago

    I sure am sad about Ariel Sharon's passing. He was a god among men. Knew how to put the enemies of Israel-be they settlertrash or palitrash-in their place.

    1. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

      He's essentially been dead for 8 years now. And it's not like Israel is in want of hard-line leadership in Bibi.

  153. Irish   11 years ago

    Detroit Free Press Reporter makes incest joke about West Virginia after a chemical spill.

    Obviously conservatives have their panties in a bunch over this because people in West Virginia vote Republican and must therefore be protected. Ho hum, idiotic partisan politics as usual.

    Personally, I'm just wondering what made a Detroit reporter think there's anywhere else in America that she's allowed to make fun of.

    I mean, you live in Detroit. That would be like the Elephant Man calling someone ugly.

    1. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

      "Shit, my mountain cabin is more urbanized than your howling wilderness of a "city!""

  154. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

    Popes gone wild - feminist journalist Evi Quinn's creative interpretation of Pope Francis' advocacy of public breastfeeding:

    "What he was essentially saying was that the human body is beautiful and that there's nothing shameful about showing it off in public?especially in church. This was a ringing endorsement of public nudity and of the liberation of the female body. At one point while he was speaking, he pointed upward, as if to say, 'Do not be afraid. Look up at all the boobage in this place [Sistine Chapel]. You are not alone.'"

    http://www.eyeofthetiber.com/2.....r-reports/

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