New Digital Drug Market Promises Better Service Than Silk Road

Below is a promotional video from Atlantis, which describes itself as "the world's best anonymous online drug marketplace."

Check out Atlantis' twitter and facebook pages here and here.

Unsurprisingly, Atlantis accepts Bitcoins and Litecoins. For those familiar with Bitcoins Atlantis may sound similar to the website Silk Road. The CEO of Atlantis did an AMA on Reddit where he/she explained (among other things) why he/she thinks Atlantis is better than Silk Road.

Like Silk Road, to use Atlantis you will need to download the Tor browser bundle, which will allow you to browse the internet anonymously. Nick Gillespie recently sat down with Tor's development director to discuss how Tor works, how it started, and more.

Comments

[Some call me Tim?]

I showed this video to a coworker of mine the other day, which led to me having to explain to them how TOR works.

Sadly, instead of being excited, they were freaked out.

[Duke]

Do they also freak out when they learn it's a federal crime to read other people's mail? Or when they close their bedroom blinds so others can't see in their room at night?

[Some call me Tim?]

Closing the blinds is a crime? That's new to me.

[Duke]

Supposed to be an analogy of how people expect privacy in various places but don't expect it on the net.

[generic Brand]

How does it work? I can't watch the video right now, but I am very curious. I often use the Chrome "incognito" windows. Is it similar to that or entirely different?

[generic Brand]

How does it work? I can't watch the video right now, but I am very curious. I often use the Chrome "incognito" windows. Is it similar to that or entirely different?

[Some call me Tim?]

entirely different. Routes encrypted packets across randomly assigned nodes.

[wheelock]

As Tim explained it routes your encrypted request across a randomly selected group of nodes. Each node only knows where to forward it to next. This makes it next to impossible for "interested parties" to see what you are looking at or talking to. Its pretty great. Its very slow compared to regular browsing and many services wont work (anything with flash, most major email providers, etc)

[Fist of Etiquette]

A dot onion address? I smell a rat.

[Some call me Tim?]

How so? That's what all the addresses are on the TOR network.

[Fist of Etiquette]

THEN I SMELL A NETWORK WIDE RAT.

[Eitan]

I smell a technically illiterate person.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Technically illiterate is the best kind of illiterate.

[Episiarch]

What do I need this for? I'm sure that when the State Liquor Board finally gets around to deciding how weed can be sold, it'll be reasonable and sensible and not retarded at all.

[Some call me Tim?]

You may not, but those of us in the other 48 states could use it.

[Zeb]

Not for weed. But it could be good for some more exotic things.

[Episiarch]

Guys, guys, I was making a joke about how I think the WA State Liquor Board is going to fuck up regulation and licensing. Of course this would be useful for things other than weed.

You're all just a bunch of degenerates.

[Guy Laguy]

u would know!

[Dagny T.]

They can fuck up regulation all they want. Unless they find a way to stop people from growing, and "sharing" with their "friends," everyone is going to keep getting their weed exactly the way they do now. I hope their revenues from any retarded weed-tax are fucking microscopic.
State-sold weed will be handy for tourists who don't have a local connection, but that's about it, I think.

[Episiarch]

We'll see. At least they haven't been being incredibly retarded so far like Colorado has. It's been a complete non-issue. "Oh, weed is legal now, that's almost entirely like before, carry on."

[Dagny T.]

Right. Ideal, pie-in-the-sky scenario would be the state does such a colossally terrible job of selling it, that they just say "fuck it, privatize." For now, the relative improvement in freedom is nice, but when that finally happens, the economic boom and flood of innovation and entrepreneurship in WA will be insane. WA economy has a lot going for it already; that would send it into the stratosphere.

[Cytotoxic]

I am getting the perception that WA is one of the better blue states, even outside of strengths like gun laws and mj.

[Some call me Tim?]

Well, home grow is still illegal in WA. It's just that possessing that cannabis after the fact (in small enough quantities) is legal.

[Dagny T.]

Tim, do you have any idea how flaunted that law is? Tons of people home-grow and there's very little risk exposure for doing so. Now I am sure (and have some limited anecdotal evidence to support) that many people were home-growing before legalization. But it's insane how widespread it seems now.

[Some call me Tim?]

The beautiful thing about well done home grow is that you will never be caught...unless you tell someone.

Most of those people were likely already growing.

[Loki]

You're all just a bunch of degenerates.

We are? What about that I found you naked with that bowl of Jell-O?

[Loki]

*time I found...

Fuck, I hate it when I screw up a movie reference. *hangs head in shame*

[Citizen Nothing]

I will never use this, but I'm really glad it's there. Kinda like New Hampshire.

[Dagny T.]

Not really wanting to click through, do we know if it's for recreational drugs only, or Rx too? It would be pretty neat to be able to get prescription drugs without having to go through the medical cartel.

In general, I am kind of hoping for a whole shadow medical industry to emerge out of the rubbble of OCare.

[Some call me Tim?]

I would imagine it would also include prescription drugs that can also be used recrationally. I'm pretty sure a person could purchase Oxy's and Adderall.

[SIV]

If I was crazy and recklees enough to buy drugs through one of these services I'd only use Silk Road.

[LTC(ret) John]

I understand...I cannot tell you how much poppy I saw going through the Tagab in Kapisa or the Ring Road through Charikar...oh, wait...you meant online.

[Some call me Tim?]

What about Silk Road makes it preferable?

[Warren]

Atlantis is a slicker site, but it's not as organized, and does far far less business. This means, for now at least, sellers reputations are based on only a handful of feedback. Even worse, the particular product you're interested in may have no reviews at all.

The 1%-2% savings doesn't justify the vaster selection and far greater confidence you get from the Silk Road.

[kinnath]

So, dear technical friends, is TOR traffic recognizable as TOR traffic to someone sniffing the line at an ISP? And can that traffic be traced to a source?

So the issue is whether or not being a TOR user will make you a target of surveillance.

[Eitan]

TOR traffic cannot be traced to the source, that's the point. As for being recognizable, it's not really. But I suppose if you're using a website that requires a user account and the IP address they log appears to be changing and come from different countries all over the world, then someone might recognize you're using TOR. TOR can't keep you anonymous when you give away your name. That's why websites like Silk Road encourage users to also use PGP encryption when giving their address to vendors.

[kinnath]

Thanks.

[affenkopf]

Youtube videos? Facebook and Twitter accounts?

I think I'll stay with Silk Road. This smells like a trap.

[Some call me Tim?]

It would be more of a trap for the sellers than for the buyers.

[Citizen Nothing]

A lot of trouble to set such an elaborate trap that could only work once.

[Some call me Tim?]

Also, I'm not sure they'd err be able to track the sellers.

[Eitan]

Silk Road has an excellent record, professional design, tons of sophisticated features, a huge community and a decent brand. Reason should really try to get an interview with the Dread Pirate Roberts (the proprietor of Silk Road). He's an avid anarcho-capitalist. He even started a book club on their forum devoted to libertarian philosophy.

[Floridian]

I've never used drugs but it makes me smile to think there is competition in circumventing the government. This will likely become more useful over the years as more and more things get banned.

[affenkopf]

Agorist counter-economics in action.