What Does Tucker Carlson's Sudden Schism With Fox News Mean?

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What Does Tucker Carlson's Sudden Schism With Fox News Mean?

In this week's The Reason Roundtable, Katherine Mangu-Ward is back alongside editors Matt Welch, Nick Gillespie, and Peter Suderman as they contextualize Fox News' defamation settlement with Dominion Voting Systems and Tucker Carlson's sudden departure from the network.

01:20: Fox News' defamation settlement

15:55: BuzzFeed News shuts down

29:55: Tucker Carlson out at Fox News

44:35: Weekly Listener Question

50:45: Elon Musk and rapid unscheduled disassembly

52:35: This week's cultural recommendations

Mentioned in this podcast:

"The Fox/Dominion Settlement Highlights the Importance of Discovery in Proving 'Actual Malice,'" by Jacob Sullum

"In a $788 Million Defamation Settlement, Fox News Admits That It Spread False Claims About Election Fraud," by Jacob Sullum

"Fox's Excuses Reinforce Dominion's Defamation Case," by Jacob Sullum

"Tucker Carlson on The Daily Caller, His Infamous Jon Stewart Debate, and Walking out of the Ron Paul Convention," by Michael C. Moynihan

"Tucker Carlson Describes the Capitol Riot as 'Mostly Peaceful Chaos.' Is He Wrong?" by Jacob Sullum

"Does Tucker Carlson Get Anything Right About Libertarians?" by Matt Welch

"Tucker: The Man and His Dream," by Matt Welch

"The Death of BuzzFeed News Was a Facebook Murder-Suicide," by Robby Soave

"Democrats Threaten Matt Taibbi With Jail Time Over Twitter Files Testimony," by Robby Soave

Send your questions to [e-mail]. Be sure to include your social media handle and the correct pronunciation of your name.

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Audio production by Tarcisio Longobardi; assistant production by Hunt Beaty.

Music: "Angeline," by The Brothers Steve

What are we consuming this week?

Nick Gillespie

• Physical: 100

Katherine Mangu-Ward

• Asterisk Magazine: Issue 02

Peter Suderman

• The Mandalorian: Season 3

Matt Welch

• Cabrini Shrine NYC

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[VULGAR MADMAN]

Name me one successful civilization that was anti-child.

[Mother's Lament]

The Aztecs used to torture children on the way to be sacrificed because their tears nourished Tlaloc. This would involve pulling out their nails.
The Carthaginians would place their first born into the arms of an idol in a sacrifice called Moloch/Molech/Tophet. The living child would roll down the arms into a furnace in its belly.

I have no idea how evil we'll get before the universe feeds us another Chicxulub.

[VULGAR MADMAN]

I guess you have to be pretty rough before the Roman’s thing you’re cruel.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Name me one successful civilization that was anti-child.

Elizabeth Banks' yeast infection?

I got nothin'

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[The Last American Hero]

Modern China is doing a pretty good job of eating our lunch…

[Vernon Depner]

The British Empire

[Public Entelectual]

“Tucker Carlson’s departure from Fox News is, in part, an admission of the systemic lying, bullying, and conspiracy-mongering claimed by our client, former top producer, Abby Grossberg,” said Tanvir Rahman, one of Grossberg’s attorneys. “Mr. Carlson and his subordinates remain individual defendants in the [Southern District of New York] case and we look forward to taking their depositions under oath in the very near term,”

[Mother's Lament]

You can’t win, Shrike. Now that you’ve struck him down, he shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

Enjoy watching an unfettered Tucker gain the reach of Rogan.

[VULGAR MADMAN]

Rogan/Carlson 2024!

[Public Entelectual]

It means that Murdoch correctly diagnosed him as a wet, and Newscorp has less patience with conservatives of small brain than PBS

https://vvattsupwiththat.blogspot.com/2022/09/pride-goeth-before-squall.html

[VULGAR MADMAN]

A smart businessman knows when to get rid of his biggest asset.

What is with the “vv” ?

[Unicorn Abattoir]

If he used the "w" you'd go to a legit site.

[Mother's Lament]

"What is with the “vv” ?

Shrike's scam site is leeching off the popularity of a site that uses "w".

[JesseAz]

No matter where he goes he will have more viewers and readers than all of Reason writers combined?

[VULGAR MADMAN]

Now you’re just being mean.
I like it.

[Public Entelectual]

An unavoidable conclusion, since as a matter of byline, I am a Reason writer.

[VULGAR MADMAN]

That explains the misspellings.

[Fats of Fury]

You mean like this guy?
https://twitter.com/billybinion/status/1467383109675106304
https://twitter.com/billybinion/status/1649928853685514240

[Michael Ejercito]

Here is Glenn Greenwald’s take.

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1650539164440444930?t=sdUC2jW4Y4Bp5tBZPQXTig&s=19

[Mother's Lament]

Tucker was the cable host who most:
* Opposed US proxy war in Ukraine;
* Denounced CIA, FBI and DHS for its systemic lies and corruption;
* Devoted himself to a pardon for Julian Assange;
* Objected to regime change efforts in Cuba;
* Criticized Trump Admin's militarism.

From 8pm to 9pm on Fox, there was extreme, even fundamental, disagreements between Tucker and Hannity on those key issues - the kind of internal debate unthinkable on any other network: in lockstep.

I'd wager the new 8pm host will be far more aligned with Hannity: standard GOP.

I'm not making claims, yet, on what caused this separation. I'm just noting: the removal of Tucker means the elimination of the only real, sustained dissent on US militarism, the US Security State and more ????(Laura & Jesse Waters are the only others in prime-time near that).

A major irony is that Tucker's separation from Fox may be the best thing that could happen to him in terms of his influence and impact.

The sector of media growing most explosively are independent platforms. Joe Rogan is vastly more influential than every MSNBC and CNN host.

No matter how free you believe you are when you're attached to a media corporation, there are subtle yet powerful ways it constrains and limits you.

What people most distrust are media corporations, and what they crave most are authentic voices that come only with independence.

Don't forget: yesterday, AOC went on the show of Biden's ex WH Press Secretary and demanded the Govt ban Tucker from being allowed on TV.

Dems like AOC are utter authoritarians who crave state censorship. Independent platforms are immune from that.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Megyn Kelly discusses Tucker Carlson with Glenn Greenwald.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

15:55: BuzzFeed News shuts down

Again, I was more shocked that BuzzFeed News was still a thing. I literally thought it shut down last year.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

I come here for the "listener" "Question"... why do you no longer print it?

[JesseAz]

Commentors realized it was a marketing gimmic and not a real reader question.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

As a marketing gimmick, it was working. It got eyeballs.

[Stuck in California]

It was usually the funniest thing here that didn't have a song or puppets.

[Mother's Lament]

White Mike's been sluffing off.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Breaking points asking VERY interesting questions on Ray Epps.

[Mike Laursen]

No succinctly writing your claims down for conspiracy theorists. Then normal people might be able to quickly assess them without hack their time wasted. Nope, gotta go with video. The longer and more rambling the better.

[JesseAz]

Hey buddy. With the number if times you've been wrong... maybe lay off the conspiracy theory label. Fire extinguishers. Blm didn't riot. Those were youre claims. Wrong. Then you denied all the ones that were right like vaccines, trans surgery, censorship, etc.

K? Thanks.

[damikesc]

Feel free to explain why the ONE person caught on video repeatedly demanding people breach the Capitol is the one person involved not punished.

It is not like he was there accidentally. He INSTIGATED the whole damned thing.

[Mike Laursen]

Don’t have an explanation. Doesn’t mean your conspiratorial explanation is correct.

Really, like, that’s how low your standard is for pricing something you want to believe is true?

Also, you are putting your thumb on the scale. He is not the “one person” caught on video demanding people breach the Capitol.

[bill steigerwald]

In case any listeners or editors have forgotten what Carlson believed in his early days on CNNMSNB -- when he was a neocon, for instance -- here are four phone Q&As I did with him from 2005 and 2007. https://clips.substack.com/p/q-and-a-tucker-carlson-before-he

[rev-arthur-l-kuckland]

Start a news network
3-4 Scott adams
4-5 James lindsay
5-6 Glen greenwald
6-7 gutfeld
7-8 carlson
8-9 David smith
9-10 late night round table with remmy, andrew Heaton, and a guest to Skype in. First week snowden

[BigT]

In this podcast KMW admits, no, brags that she has compromised Reason for the clicks.

Told ya so.

[diver64]

I'm sure Blackrock taking a chunk of NewsCorp right before Tucker's firing and Bongino's departure was just coincidence.

[Gandydancer]

Whose money did Blackrock piss away by doing that?

The headline on this podcast is pure clickbait. They are utterly clueless, albeit some shapeless hostility to Carlson glows through.

[plusafdotcom]

About the population and replacement-rate Thing...
I've read that the real driving force for lower birth rates is actually a result of increasing wealth of the country or society.
The Third-World and truly impoverished countries are usually agricultural economies and often ruled by dictators and despots, so it's a Good Thing to have more kids to work the fields or to have some left over after the jihadists blow through town.
The high rates in the Middle East (and Orthodox Jews) is driven by religious 'laws.'

I've also read that the total world population, as a result, is likely to reach a peak around the middle of the Century or so at about 9 billion and then, as standards of living all around the world improve, drop slowly to about 6 billion.

I won't be here to validate those estimates, but they sound plausible to me.