TikTok and How Congress Treats Americans Like 'Unruly Children'
Plus: The editors puzzle over Donald Trump’s latest list describing his vision for America.

In this week's The Reason Roundtable, editors Matt Welch, Katherine Mangu-Ward, Nick Gillespie, and Peter Suderman scrutinize recurrent attacks on the social media app TikTok from the federal government and reiterate the delusional nature of government subsidies on goods and services across the economy.
0:56: TikTok under attack
21:55: Government subsidies don't create affordability.
33:09: Weekly Listener Question
47:46: Former President and presidential candidate Donald Trump lists his vision for America
52:07: This week's cultural recommendations
Mentioned in this podcast:
"TikTok Is Not a National Security Threat," by Milton Mueller and Karim Farhat
"TikTok Admits It's as Clueless on Teens as the Rest of Us," by Bonnie Kristian
"Indiana Lawsuit Accuses TikTok of Fraud, Calls the App a 'Chinese Trojan Horse'," by Joe Lancaster
"Decades of Subsidies Have Made the Essentials of Middle-Class Life Increasingly Difficult To Afford," by Peter Suderman
"Don't Cancel Student Debt," by Emma Camp and Danielle Thompson
"Marc Andreessen: What the World Needs Most Is More Elon Musks," by Katherine Mangu-Ward and Nick Gillespie
"View Masters," by Nick Gillespie
The Political Orphanage podcast
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"Unruly children" is a good description of most Americans these days.
Certainly Reason staff.
Obedient but unruly children
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Unruly children, huh? How else would you expect a nanny state to treat you other than a good thrashing and sending you to bed without your dinner?
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