Yet Another Shady, Hypocritical Document Hoarder
Plus: The editors field a listener question on college admissions and affirmative action.

In this week's The Reason Roundtable, editors Matt Welch, Katherine Mangu-Ward, Peter Suderman, and Nick Gillespie consider the revelation that, like former President Donald Trump, President Joe Biden also had a stash of classified documents in his private office and residence.
0:23: President Biden also had classified materials in his house
10:35: House GOP introduces the Curriculum Review of Teachings, or CRT, Transparency Act
31:33: Weekly Listener Question:
I have long held what I consider to be a libertarian position on college admissions and affirmative action: that private colleges ought to be able to control their own admissions policies and that those who don't like those policies can seek admission elsewhere. I am somewhat surprised that I do not find any libertarians making this argument. It seems to me that if the Supreme Court makes a determination that affirmative action is illegal, as well as other types of arguably discriminatory admissions policies such as preferences for alumni and attempts to achieve geographic diversity in the student body, then we are in for a tsunami of lawsuits in which every damn college applicant in the country who is turned down by her top college pick will argue that she was the victim of discrimination. Where does it end? I'm an alumnus of Wesleyan University. I always accepted that racial diversity is a laudable goal in assembling a student body, as is geographical diversity (although I read recently that a desire for geographic diversity is just a scheme to keep out Jews; I didn't know I was antisemitic), or a distribution of interests in the arts versus the sciences, or a wide variety of extracurricular activities. So it touched my heart when today's New York Times ran a headline, "If Affirmative Action Ends, College Admissions May Be Changed Forever," with a picture of my dear old alma mater, Wesleyan. What does the panel think? By what logic are the details of private college admissions policies a matter for the courts? How does the Constitution say that the courts need to make these decisions? How did we get here? And again, where will it all end?
47:21: This week's cultural recommendations
Mentioned in this podcast:
"With Classified Documents, the Real Divide Is Between the Powerful and the Rest of Us," by J.D. Tuccille
"Biden Looks Careless, Shady, and Hypocritical After the Revelations About His Handling of Classified Material," by Jacob Sullum
"Like Trump, Biden Had a Private Stash of Secret Documents, but It Was Much Less Impressive," by Jacob Sullum
"The Redacted Mar-a-Lago Search Warrant Affidavit Sheds Light on the FBI's Concerns and Trump's Defense," by Jacob Sullum
"Corey DeAngelis: How COVID Has Changed the Face of Education Forever," by Nick Gillespie
"Florida All in for Assault on Academic Freedom," by Keith E. Whittington
"Chris Rufo's Battle To 'Stop Woke'," by Zack Weissmueller and Nick Gillespie
"Time To End Affirmative Action? Live With David Bernstein and Kenny Xu," by Zach Weissmueller and Nick Gillespie
"Want To Stop School Book Battles? Give Parents Real Choice in Education," by Nick Gillespie
Send your questions to roundtable@reason.com. Be sure to include your social media handle and the correct pronunciation of your name.
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Are they really going BOAF SIDEZ on classified documents? That's so biased.
I'm sorry this is happening to you. You'll be okay.
Biased against who?
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Because I, the SMARTEST ONE, can “summarize” it ALL for you! Here it is, above article summarized: “Senile Mackerel Snapper Bad”!
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Classified document handling: a concept made up by the government, for the government to argue about, trying to score points.
Wake me up when we're not discussing a made up problem.
But most of them are made up.
Tell us about how you all spent Monday reflecting upon and honoring the greatness of Dr. King.
It's the AWFL's holiest day
That was yesterday? Shit I totally forgot.
By looking at the penis statue.
Someone decided to erect one of those?
Your humor comes off as flaccid and impotent.
HE DID IT TOO! HE DID IT TOO!
AT LEAST I GAVE THEM BACK! HE’S WORSE!
https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1615350071159144448?t=KWgYSECrAlfPnkgiwO05qw&s=19
They should just finally admit they used COVID to get rid of Donald Trump. They created mass hysteria and destroyed millions of peoples lives because it was an election year.
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After 50 Sullum columns on Trump being an evil document thief we finally get a "Both sides!!!" bit.
Sarcasmic and White Mike must be thrilled.
Was the fact that a president can declassify documents (and that Trump was still president when the documents were left at Mar-A-Lago), but a vice president cannot, ever mentioned?
Did they talk about Crossfire Hurricane?
Did they talk about Hillary's server?
Did they talk about the documents Obama warehoused?
No, the only talking point is that he gave them back .
So if I steal your car, and give it back when caught, no problems.
So libertarian.
Only took six years, not like the dozens or even hundreds of days it took to get documents from Trump.
But even then he's only returning the documents they have found. No guarantee there are not more, no guarantee there weren't more to begin with that are now in foreign hands for a fat donation to his think tank.
I mean, that's part of the joke, right? Trump's lawyers turned over documents and immediately the archivists and the FBI were convinced he had a ton more. Biden's lawyers turn over documents and are still finding them, and yet the spin is that Biden is completely cooperative and there's fewer document that Trump, even though they haven't done any investigation.
And orangemanbad!
Since this seems to be about Obama Administration era documents, at a minimum 6 years overdue.
Probably because to be consistent, they would also have to oppose discrimination laws in hiring. If private colleges ought to be able to control their own admissions policies as much as they want, then private businesses should be allowed to do that as well. But not many libertarians want to go on the record in saying that businesses should be allowed to discriminate this way.
Same place it ends for hiring in private employment. Some people do sue, alleging racial discrimination. But most of those lawsuits won't go anywhere unless they have actual evidence of such discrimination.
" If private colleges ought to be able to control their own admissions policies as much as they want, then private businesses should be allowed to do that as well. But not many libertarians want to go on the record in saying that businesses should be allowed to discriminate this way."
Actually private businesses should be able to discriminate any way they want and as a libertarian I'd like to go on record here. I don't think they should but they certainly have that right in a libertarian world. Private colleges on the other hand that take funding from government are subject to anti discrimination law. Affirmative action is illegal. Period.
Oh, the hypocrisy...being called antisemitic for diversity as it will result in less Jews in her private elite university. Now let's take a look at %'s say at Cornell. Jews are 2-3% of the US population, Italians are around 15% yet Jews are close to 40% of the student population and Italians less than 10%. I don't recall any Jewish liberals screaming about that. Funny it if your overrepresented it is all good, but to be underrepresented it is "discrimination." Such irony..
I come for the listener question, I stay for the comments.
You need help
Throw them both in jail.
Oh, sorry. That’s only the solution if it’s Republicans. If Democrats come up with classified documents they’ve had, possibly illegally, since the end of the Obama administration, it’s just a mistake, they didn’t know they had them for six years, and as soon as they found them they turned them in (sure).
I think discriminating by race is bad for society if it is allowed, even in certain circumstances.
Ultimately law (and government) is to keep us from killing each other.
Governments, like other Darwinean entities, are "for' their own survival in competitive environments. Sometimes they fail, of course. Other claptrap is just other claptrap.
Affirmative Action = [WE] select-affiliation-gang RULES and therefore [WE] get to use Gov-Guns to *entitle* ourselves to 'icky' people's things! Those 'icky' people being anyone who creates anything [WE] gang's heart desires. [WE] gangs packing Gov-Guns RULES!
Gangland Politics 101.
Because that's what Democracy *IS* without a Supreme Law.
Outside Gangland; once upon a time the way to get what one's heart desired was to *EARN* it instead of STEAL it with Gov-Guns. Back in those olden days when Liberty and Justice was the #1 and *ONLY* use the people had for a monopoly of Gun-Force.
Give me a transcript to edit out the self-promoting BS, or STFU. And here is a prime example:
"Yet Another Shady, Hypocritical Document Hoarder"
Pretty sure this is a false equivalence between the criminal Biden and the non-criminal Trump.
I could be wrong; give me a transcript to show that, or stuff your raging TDS up your asses, shit-bags.
These farts obsessing endlessly over marginal school choice issues when in FACT the issue is Woke-imposed craziness were a real pain in the ass.
Which of these clowns was the one going on tediously about how if CRT is pronounced "cart" he could make some pathetic joke about how paying attention to the atrocity in progress was "putting the cart in front of the horse"?
He really needs to be dropped.
Youre right. I'm not sorry.
0:23: President Biden also had classified materials in his house
Wow!!! My utterly AWESOME uber-mind can now parse and summarize audio WITHOUT LISTENING TO IT!!!
May be challenging for him to listen over all of those screaming children.
https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1615381051442106368?t=wbUTc63WmJChH0vzPOoGfA&s=19
BREAKING: Hunter Biden’s $49,910 rent payment is the same exact amount of money he received from a rental deposit linked to his business venture with CEFC China Energy Co.
The media will call this a coincidence.
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So the previous diagnosis of hearing voices was wrong?
https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2023/01/16/hunter-biden-49910-rent-matches-deposit-houseofsweden-cefc-china-energy/
"Hunter Biden’s $49,910 rent payment is the same exact amount of money he received from a rental deposit linked to his business venture with CEFC China Energy Co.
The media will call this a coincidence."
The media will ignore it as hard as they can, mumbling about QAnon and conspiracy theories if pressed.
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"I always accepted that racial diversity (discrimination) is a laudable goal in assembling a student body"
Must be one of those cool libertarian readers that ENB was bragging about. I'm sure she/he/they/them doesn't/don't read the comments.
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A list of the times Trump has said he won’t accept the election results or leave office if he loses.
Essential heart and core of the LIE by Trump: “ANY election results not confirming MEEE as Your Emperor, MUST be fraudulent!”
September 13 rally: “The Democrats are trying to rig this election because that’s the only way they’re going to win,” he said.
Trump’s constant re-telling and supporting the Big Lie (any election not electing Trump is “stolen”) set up the environment for this (insurrection riot) to happen. He shares the blame. Boys will be boys? Insurrectionists will be insurrectionists, trumpanzees gone apeshit will be trumpanzees gone apeshit, so let’s forgive and forget? Poor Trump was misunderstood? Does that sound good and right and true?
It really should immediately make us think of Krystallnacht. Hitler and the NAZIs set up for this by constantly blaming Jews for all things bad. Jew-haters will be Jew-haters, so let’s forgive and forget? Poor Hitler was misunderstood? Does that sound good and right and true?
https://www.salon.com/2021/04/11/trumps-big-lie-and-hitlers-is-this-how-americas-slide-into-totalitarianism-begins/
Trump's Big Lie and Hitler's: Is this how America's slide into totalitarianism begins?
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Totalitarians want to turn GOP into GOD (Grand Old Dicktatorshit).
What are you babbling about now?
Even though events have since shown your old Salon story to be mendacious Democratic Party propaganda, here you are, brandishing it like a bible.
Tell us again how government agencies issuing censorship directives is the agents free speech.
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Here is PROOF!
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Still dodging.
How were government alphabet agency censorship demands the “agent's free speech”?
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My body really is perfect, thanks.
As for Marxist, I don't believe either of us is Marxist, because I'm a libertarian and you're a Nazi.
Don't dodge the question, Shillsy.
The other day you said that government alphabet agency censorship demands were the "agents free speech".
Elaborate on that.
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The fundamental tenet of marxism is that people aren't individuals but are units of an identity class, with each identity class engaged in perpetual warfare against the others.
Nazism very much fits the bill.
Yeah diversity for the sake of saying your diverse is not a laudable goal
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On some form idiot Hunter listed rent paid on office space in LA as rent to Joe, who never received it.
Yeah, Hunter no doubt paid kickbacks to "The Big Guy", but this wasn't the mechanism.