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Artificial Intelligence

Fewer Than 3 Friends

Plus: Growth forecasts slashed, Pravda time, fentanyl seizures, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 5.1.2025 9:30 AM

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15 artificial friends: "The average American has, I think, fewer than three friends…and the average person has demand for meaningfully more, I think it's like 15 friends….The average person wants more connection than they have," Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg told Dwarkesh Patel on his podcast. (Meta just launched a standalone AI chat app that will compete with ChatGPT and Claude.) "There's a lot of questions that people ask, like Is this going to replace in-person connections or real-life connections? and my default is that the answer to that is probably no….There are all these things that are better about physical connections when you can have them, but the reality is that people just don't have the connection and they feel more alone a lot of the time than they would like. I think a lot of these things that today there might be a little bit of a stigma around, I would guess that over time we will find the vocabulary as a society to be able to articulate why it is valuable and why the people who are doing these things, why they are rational for doing it, and how it is adding value for their lives."

I'm sympathetic to Zuckerberg's argument, which is about alternatives, recognizing that not every person will have the optimal community they desire. But people's social muscles will atrophy when they resort to hollow, virtual connections as a loneliness anesthetic. They'll be able to pacify their yearning most of the time, while losing their ability to put themselves out there and be vulnerable and face rejection, and they won't realize what they're missing until it's too late and they're truly in need. And, look, profit isn't inherently bad, not in the slightest. But all of this is made a bit more dystopian because Zuckerberg stands to gain financially from more people adopting chatbot relationships (provided they're with his company's chatbots), opting out of real-world connectivity and opting into the thing his coders made.

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Perhaps Spike Jonze's Her is actually the way: The chatbot is used as a balm for the protagonist to get over a divorce and heal emotionally. But in the end, he opts out, walks away, and moves on, inviting his lady neighbor, who is also reeling from a divorce (aided by chatbots that forced the couple apart, or were maybe just coping mechanisms for a couple already riven), to come sit on the roof of their building with him to watch the sunrise. People will have access to the technology, and it may introduce new problems (and solutions) to their lives, but they'll have to make the deliberate, conscious choice to opt into physical-world existence with other human beings, seeing its value once again. (For more on these themes, check out the Just Asking Questions episode that will be released later today, featuring Ross Douthat.)

Economic outlook grows ever more bleak: This morning, the Bank of Japan revised its economic growth forecasts for the year, now expecting 0.5 percent growth in the fiscal year that started on April 1 vs. the 1.1 percent that it had forecast back in January. As a result, they will keep interest rates constant. Kazuo Ueda, the governor of the Bank of Japan, "cited the imposition of an 'unprecedented level' of tariffs by the United States" as the reason for the changed growth forecast, per The New York Times.

Last month, the International Monetary Fund lowered its 2025 outlook for all G7 nations—Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the U.K., and the U.S.—citing our new tariff policy as the reason why.

And yesterday, our own Commerce Department noted that gross domestic product (GDP) adjusted for inflation had declined at a 0.3 percent annual rate over the first three months of 2025. "This was the first quarter of negative growth since Q1 of 2022," notes CNBC. "Economists surveyed by Dow Jones had been looking for a gain of 0.4% after GDP rose by 2.4% in the fourth quarter of 2024. However, over the past day or so some Wall Street economists changed their outlook to negative growth, largely because of an unexpected rise in imports as companies and consumers sought to get ahead of the Trump tariffs implemented in early April." (Some of this may be attributable to a surge of imports in advance of the imposition of massive tariffs, which would affect GDP because imports get subtracted.)

"Maybe some of this negativity is due to a rush to bring in imports before the tariffs go up, but there is simply no way for policy advisors to sugar-coat this. Growth has simply vanished," Chris Rupkey, chief economist at Fwdbonds, told CNBC. And the worst is still yet to come, because long shipping times mean U.S. ports are still receiving plenty of goods from China that were sent prior to high tariffs being announced; the new, more expensive, less abundant reality isn't quite here yet.

"Investors are in for a shock in the next few weeks as the slowing flow of goods from China underscores the risks tariffs bring to the US economy, the latest MLIV Pulse survey showed," notes Bloomberg. "Of the 248 respondents to a poll conducted April 28-30, 82% said the impact of fewer shipments from China to American businesses is either somewhat or heavily underpriced in markets." Buckle up.


Scenes from New York's neighbor: "Amid strained negotiations with the union that represents its train drivers, New Jersey Transit began telling its customers on Wednesday to prepare for a shutdown of the statewide rail service as soon as May 16," reports The New York Times. "It would be the first such strike in New Jersey in more than 40 years."


QUICK HITS

  • "What economic indicator should we watch closely to know if AI is starting to really change the whole macroeconomy?" asks The Atlantic's Derek Thompson. His attempt at answering that question is here. 
  • Attorney General Pam Bondi claims that fentanyl seizures by law enforcement over the first 100 days of the Trump administration have saved 258 million lives. (It's implied that they're American lives.) This, uh, does not seem plausible.

Listen to her! She's saying that if they hadn't confiscated that fentanyl, 258 million Americans would have died.

That's 2/3 of us. Bless you President Trump!
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— Carl (@HistoryBoomer) April 30, 2025

  • New Pravda just dropped:

NEW: Trump admin. launches 'White House Wire'

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— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) May 1, 2025

  • Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is trying to make it so that candy and sodas are not eligible to be purchased via food stamps, reports News Nation.
  • "The White House deserves credit for revitalizing diplomacy to end the war in Ukraine. In its haste for a deal, however, its proposals have too often looked indistinguishable from a surrender on Russia's terms," reports Bloomberg. "American negotiators have offered up a ceasefire plan that would leave Russia in de facto control of almost all the Ukrainian territory it currently occupies. In addition to land, Putin would win substantial sanctions relief. The US may also formally recognize Crimea, which Russia illegally annexed in 2014. Ukraine would be allowed to maintain its military but be offered only vague security guarantees, to be enforced by an ad hoc coalition of allies (not including the US). For at least the duration of the current US administration, it would be barred from joining NATO."

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The average American has, I think, fewer than three friends…

    I consider everyone here my best friend.

    1. Don't look at me! (Why is penguin meat so expensive now?)   2 months ago

      Awwwwww

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

        Except you.

        1. Don't look at me! (Why is penguin meat so expensive now?)   2 months ago

          Dang. *kicks pebble*

          1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

            LET ME FINISH. Because I consider you my BFF.

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              Awwww.

              At least the kicked pebble likes me qq

              1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

                There's a hierarchy.

        2. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

          Classic

    2. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

      I would say I have exactly three. Which is doing well these days. Most adult American men have no close friends. And no, your wife doesn't count.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

        My wife better not count. I got my eye on you.

        1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

          Your wife doesn't know how to count? Or you just don't let her?

          1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

            Since she's barefoot, she can count to 20.

            1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

              How would you know how many fingers and toes Fist's wife has?! Someone's got some 'splainin' to do.

      2. Randy Sax   2 months ago

        What counts as "close friend" is a loose definition. I got an old high skool buddy we text maybe once every couple of months or so and go hunting once a year. We live in different states now, I'd still consider him a close friend.

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          Have a big group of friends we've been doing fantasy football together for 20 years. Each draft is a trip to keep in touch. Up to 6 states now.

        2. mad.casual   2 months ago

          What counts as "close friend" is a loose definition.

          And fundamentally constructed by a modern culture that specifically wants to connect otherwise disconnected people even, paradoxically, against the disconnected people's desires.

          The idea of defining a close friend in any particular way while explicitly excluding spouses or spouses and immediate family or spouses, immediate and distal family sounds like a paradoxical exercise in utter futility; if not equally or more anti-social/misanthropic.

          Akin to stupid sociological tricks like the Bechdel Test where any given terribly-acted, terribly-written, movie that even portrays women as vile backstabbers gets a feminist pass because it meets the stupid, narrow-minded, anecdotal criteria.

        3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

          It's pretty normal, for the most part, to keep about 2-3 close friends through adulthood. How those interactions take place vary, as some will meet up once a week, others maybe 2-3 times a year, but typically it's a situation where you meet up and fall right back in to the old ways of talking with each other as if no time passed.

          Relationships take up a lot of bandwidth, whether it's a spouse or friends, and most people don't have a lot of time or energy in their adult years to have a large social circle. Typically, you find that the ones who do have such a thing mostly have those relationships on a superficial level, not the sort of "hey, you have time to meet up for coffee and catch up?" type of intimacy.

      3. mad.casual   2 months ago

        Do Bulletsponge and Meatshield count as friends? Asking for less than 3 co-owners and/or volunteer caregivers?

        1. Super Scary   2 months ago

          "Do Bulletsponge and Meatshield count as friends? "

          If you let them crash on your couch I don't see why not.

        2. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

          Spongebob doesn't count.

      4. Zeb   2 months ago

        I guess I'm doing OK. I have like 5 close friends.

    3. Longtobefree   2 months ago

      It is a shame your employer does not offer mental health benefits.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Does that include a subscription to Virtual Friends services?

    4. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Probably not me, since there was that one time I beat Fist to the first post.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

        I don't recall that.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          But scratch him from your xmas card list anyway.

        2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          That part of your memory is occupied by Chumby.

    5. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Sarc has at least 2 dozen fake friends he has talked about here.

      1. Strawmancasmic, Town Drunk and Gay for Booze   2 months ago

        ‘Cool dudes’ that invited him to their ‘HALF million dollar lake house’. Which is delusion for one of the other hobos inviting him to their refrigerator box. Where the ‘cool dudes’ probably gang banged him.

    6. Strawmancasmic, Town Drunk and Gay for Booze   2 months ago

      In Sarc’s case, were the closest thing to friends he will ever have.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    But people's social muscles will atrophy when they resort to hollow, virtual connections as a loneliness anesthetic.

    Or, if they're locked down for a year or two.

    1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

      And if they were locked down and masked as toddlers, they might never have the social skills to make friends.

      1. damikesc   2 months ago

        Eggs, omelettes, knowwhatImean?

  3. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The chatbot is used as a balm for the protagonist to get over a divorce and heal emotionally.

    Geez. Spoiler alert.

    1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

      Chickflick;dw

  4. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

    New Pravda just dropped

    Liz, Liz, Liz. You just don't get it. The actual Soviet Pravda was a government publication that pushed propaganda pretending to be fact. The White House Wire is pushing government fact to displace media propaganda. Totally different!

    1. damikesc   2 months ago

      He does not have the benefit of having the MSM as a transcription service of everything they claim.

      They're not claiming to be news. This is not an attempted sleight of hand here.

    2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

      Jeff has a fit of jealously because Liz called the White House's website "Pravda" instead of Reuters and other USAID sponsored magazines.

      1. Don't get eliminated(How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer penguin meat)   2 months ago

        Government sponsored “news” pretending to be independent good, government employees threatening media companies with instructions on who to censor also good, government talking points on a website with clearly identified government letterhead bad.

        — Lying Jeffy

        1. DesigNate   2 months ago

          It’s such a clown take.

          1. Strawmancasmic, Town Drunk and Gay for Booze   2 months ago

            From our resident morbidly obese, groomer clown.

            By the way, do you know who else was a groomer, and played a clown at children is parties?

  5. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    People will have access to the technology, and it may introduce new problems ...

    Uh, yeah. Ever heard of a little thing called Skynet? Imagine that being your BFF and a jealous one at that.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      Look Dave, I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        "I'm sorry I made you exterminate humanity!"

    2. Randy Sax   2 months ago

      Is A.M. or HAL scarier? AM is more malicious, but you know that he is. HAL pretends to be your "friend".

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

        Help me out on AM.

        1. Randy Sax   2 months ago

          Allied Mastercomputer from "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream"

          "Hate. Let me tell you how much I've come to hate you since I began to live. There are 387.44 million miles of printed circuits in wafer-thin layers that fill my complex. If the word 'hate' was engraved on each nanoangstrom of the hundreds of millions of miles, it would not equal one one-billionth of the hate I feel for humans at this micro-instant. For you. HATE. HATE."

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

            Sounds like the average Democrat talking about Trump.

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              Sarcbot?

              1. Don't get eliminated(How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer penguin meat)   2 months ago

                He’s less honest about it, amazingly.

          2. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

            I don't remember reading any Ellison but I did enjoy City on the Edge of Forever.

    3. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

      I don’t really care who else you see now, you’ve already hurt my feelings enough

  6. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Kazuo Ueda, the governor of the Bank of Japan, "cited the imposition of an 'unprecedented level' of tariffs by the United States" as the reason for the changed growth forecast...

    Buy more of our transistor radios, then, Japan. You have the ability to bring these tariffs down.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Transistor radios? We might at well demand that they buy more beaver fur top hats.

      1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

        You'll need a monocle to go with that.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          Hmm, what's Trump's proposed monocle tariff?

  7. Adans smith   2 months ago

    I trust no one.

  8. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    ...some Wall Street economists changed their outlook to negative growth, largely because of an unexpected rise in imports as companies and consumers sought to get ahead of the Trump tariffs implemented in early April.

    That's too many imports. Not what the tariffs were supposed to do!

    1. damikesc   2 months ago

      I thought imports were not, in any way, bad.

      1. Don't get eliminated(How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer penguin meat)   2 months ago

        It changes based off the current topic/narrative as needed.

        Journalisming!

  9. Don't look at me! (Why is penguin meat so expensive now?)   2 months ago

    inviting his lady neighbor, who is also reeling from a divorce..

    Catch them on the rebound.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      So, two people who either made bad choices in the past, or can't maintain a relationship, will together live happily ever after?

      1. Don't look at me! (Why is penguin meat so expensive now?)   2 months ago

        Certainly not. This has a shelf life of a few hours.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          The sequel?

  10. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

    Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is trying to make it so that candy and sodas are not eligible to be purchased via food stamps,

    How is this controversial?

    1. Don't look at me! (Why is penguin meat so expensive now?)   2 months ago

      Sugar is a human right!

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Well, sugar subsidies are a corporate lobbyist right.

    2. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

      The vote chattel should be allowed to do anything they want with the money stolen from you, your children and grandchildren, that's how.

      1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

        Something about free speech or is it due process?

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          In the past bit Ls call it earned dignity.

          1. Zeb   2 months ago

            I've always thought that arguing for welfare based on "dignity" is weird and wrong. What the hell is dignified about getting other people to pay for your upkeep?

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              There is none.

            2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

              Which is more dignified - sleeping under a bridge, or not sleeping under a bridge?

              Is the purpose of welfare to aid those in need, or is the purpose of welfare to serve as a vehicle for the taxpayer majority to impose their morality conditions on the minority?

              1. Don't look at me! (Why is penguin meat so expensive now?)   2 months ago

                The true purpose is to create a permanent underclass dependent on government.

                1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

                  And make they feel good (and entitled).

              2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

                What is more dignified, paying your own way or demanding that society provide for you?

              3. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                Right now? Not under a bridge.
                Next year at this time? Under a bridge.

              4. Zeb   2 months ago

                In my mind, dignity is about how people deal with the circumstances they find themselves in. No one else can provide you with dignity.

                1. Strawmancasmic, Town Drunk and Gay for Booze   2 months ago

                  Real libertarians, like Pedo Jeffy, know that dignity is provided at the discretion of a democrat controlled federal government, and distributed through taxpayer funded programs.

              5. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

                IN NEED of candy?

                1. Strawmancasmic, Town Drunk and Gay for Booze   2 months ago

                  Hey now! There’s that one in a hundred million chance that a hypoglycemic might be having an episode and only an EBT card stands between them and certain death,

              6. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

                Are you defending welfare?

                1. DesigNate   2 months ago

                  Of course he is, Jeff is generous like that.

                2. Strawmancasmic, Town Drunk and Gay for Booze   2 months ago

                  When hasn’t he?

              7. Strawmancasmic, Town Drunk and Gay for Booze   2 months ago

                Pedo Jeffy, the one true libertarian, believes that dignity comes through socialist programs .

    3. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

      Jackboot.

    4. Randy Sax   2 months ago

      When my father was a cashier in his teens, people would come in, buy food with stamps, return the food for cash/store credit and buy cigarettes and booze.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Thank God we went to debit cards that worked on even casinos.

        1. Strawmancasmic, Town Drunk and Gay for Booze   2 months ago

          It’s the democrat party way.

    5. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

      Well part of the issue is, how much authority should the government have to micromanage one's life if that person does take welfare? Where do you draw the line?

      Candy and soda per se aren't bad, they are only bad if consumed in excess.

      But take breakfast cereal for example. A lot of breakfast cereal really is little more than packaged sugar. Should that type of breakfast cereal be prohibited? What about the healthy breakfast cereal? Where should you draw the line? Should the government even be drawing a line?

      I am not saying that there should be no restrictions on welfare funds. I am saying that it is possible to go overboard in the other direction and have a government nanny dictating people's choices.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Remember how you have that strawman that we are only against welfare for illegals but support it for citizens due to racism?

        Hows that holding up?

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

          Remember how you like to make shit up and shill for the government? You should, because you do it on an hourly basis.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

            You’re just pissy that you can’t use your SNAP benefits on that 55-gallon drum of Ben & Jerry’s after this.

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              The best part about Jeff is you know he doesn't give one damn cent to charity as he uses appeal to morality to force others into the level of charity and level of oversight he demands.

              1. Strawmancasmic, Town Drunk and Gay for Booze   2 months ago

                Far left atheists are the stingiest people. Oh, and since a Jeffy won’t talk to me, please ask him if he supports the California bill that would make sex trafficking 16-17 year olds a felony.

                Please hound him on this. I’m guessing he doesn’t support that.

          2. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

            Shilling for the government?! Why, that's sarcjeff's job!

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

              lol Jesse is literally the Trump mouthpiece here

              1. Don't get eliminated(How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer penguin meat)   2 months ago

                I thought we were talking about welfare for junk food?

              2. Strawmancasmic, Town Drunk and Gay for Booze   2 months ago

                ‘lol’ you were literally the mouthpiece for the Biden administration for four years. You’re still a literal mouthpiece for the democrat agenda and democrat narratives.

              3. Strawmancasmic, Town Drunk and Gay for Booze   2 months ago

                That narrative isn’t gong to work here Fatfuck.

      2. Don't look at me! (Why is penguin meat so expensive now?)   2 months ago

        Well part of the issue is, how much authority should the government have to micromanage one's life

        Now do Covid, Mr. Bears in trunks.

        1. damikesc   2 months ago

          Mind you, he STILL defends that non-scientific bullshit.

          I will always say: "Expertise" died when the "medical experts" decided that going to family members' funerals or weddings, going to church, etc were not essential; BUT protesting the killing of a drug-addicted moron WAS essential AND actually an act promoting public health.

          You can never, ever come back from that. Trust is 100% broken.

        2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          His argument doesn't even make sense as government doesn't force citizens to sign up for welfare.

      3. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

        Fuck you you leftist cunt. You don't want me to have a say in your affairs then DON'T STEAL MY FUCKING MONEY. Your premise assumes you have a right to force my to provide you a given lifestyle, so fuck off with that.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          I don't give a shit what people eat, but if you steal my money to buy Cheetos then the least you can do is not eat them while pan-handling outside the Safeway.

      4. damikesc   2 months ago

        "Well part of the issue is, how much authority should the government have to micromanage one's life if that person does take welfare? Where do you draw the line?"

        You take the money, you accept the strings attached.

        If I am paying for your food, I should have considerable voice over what you can and cannot buy. I am not going to pay for you to get doughnuts and shit with my money.

        You want that? Make your own money.

        "But take breakfast cereal for example. A lot of breakfast cereal really is little more than packaged sugar. Should that type of breakfast cereal be prohibited?"

        From somebody else buying it with my money? Yes. It should be.

        "I am not saying that there should be no restrictions on welfare funds. I am saying that it is possible to go overboard in the other direction and have a government nanny dictating people's choices."

        You got the freedom to not take the money.

        You make decisions, you get consequences.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

          Right, so it sure sounds like you see welfare as a vehicle for you to impose your moral values onto other people. That's kind of the problem here.

          1. Don't look at me! (Why is penguin meat so expensive now?)   2 months ago

            It’s not a problem at all.

          2. damikesc   2 months ago

            "Right, so it sure sounds like you see welfare as a vehicle for you to impose your moral values onto other people. That's kind of the problem here."

            You can always not take the welfare. You want the free money? Well, there are rules you have to follow.

            chemjeff --- welfare is libertarian. Limiting what can be bought with it is authoritarian.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

              Maybe the rules should not be an excuse for you to be a dickhead to the poor.

              1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

                Maybe you shouldn't invent moral failings on damikesc's part that aren't actually true, Lying Jeffy.

                Particularly since a wannabe-parvenu like you has nothing but hatred and contempt for the poor.

              2. damikesc   2 months ago

                "Maybe the rules should not be an excuse for you to be a dickhead to the poor."

                I do more for the poor than you, son.

                If you want to get treats, you make your own money to get them.

                Government support for food should be sufficient to allow one to live. Not to have anything they wish.

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

                  I didn't say "anything they wish". I said above that I do think there ought to be some rules for how SNAP funds are spent. I just don't think the rules should be so burdensome and micromanaging that it winds up being humiliating and degrading.

                  1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

                    Accepting welfare should be humiliating. It once was. Now people receiving welfare feel entitled to it. I thought you claimed to be a libertarian.

                    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

                      He's not called Lying Jeffy for nothing.

                    2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

                      Sorry I missed the memo that said libertarianism required the government to be humiliating and degrading towards the citizens.

                    3. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

                      Libertarianism is pretty incompatible with a welfare state, as long as taxation is compulsory and not voluntary. You can sealion about this and pretend libertarianism is about giving people benefits paid for by forced taxation, as long as it prevents the recipients from feeling humiliation or degradation. But you'd be operating with a novel and bullshit definition of libertarianism. Do you call yourself a "libertarian socialist"? I've encountered a few who describe themselves that way.

                    4. Strawmancasmic, Town Drunk and Gay for Booze   2 months ago

                      You’re arguing for unrestricted ‘free money’. There is nothing libertarian about you, Fatfuck.

          3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

            You mean like all Democratic taxes and social programs?

          4. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

            Right, so it sure sounds like you see welfare as a vehicle for you to impose your moral values onto other people. That's kind of the problem here.

            Translation: "This was just another gotcha to justify my own lack of self-control."

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

              It's only a 'gotcha' if you agree with it.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

                Nah, it's just your typical circular reasoning to protect your lefty boos.

                1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

                  It's amazing how he's so blatant but still thinks he's being tricky.

          5. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

            Right, so it sure sounds like you see welfare as an open ended commitment with other people’s money. That’s kind of the problem here.

        2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

          Furthermore, if you make the rules for welfare excessively burdensome or complex, that means a greater cost to try to enforce all of those complex rules. At some point, the government will spend more money to enforce those byzantine rules, than it would spend on the welfare if those rules weren't in place.

          1. damikesc   2 months ago

            "Furthermore, if you make the rules for welfare excessively burdensome or complex, that means a greater cost to try to enforce all of those complex rules."

            Not really. You can go into the database and add in banned products. This is not even a CHALLENGING process for the private sector. If it is for the government, we should end welfare COMPLETELY until infrastructure is developed to handle it.

            "At some point, the government will spend more money to enforce those byzantine rules, than it would spend on the welfare if those rules weren't in place."

            Nah.

            But keep fighting for welfare. Your libertarianism is GLOWING here.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

              I'm not arguing in favor of welfare. I am arguing that if there is to be welfare, it should not be a humiliating degrading experience which is more about taxpayers attempting to lord over their supposed moral superiority over those benighted inferior poors.

              1. damikesc   2 months ago

                That is called arguing in support of welfare.

                If you are going to STEAL my money (taxation is theft, after all), then do not expect people to smile while you waste it.

                Rules on free shit are expected by adults.

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

                  No, it is arguing against using the government as a vehicle for moral condemnation.

                  1. Don't get eliminated(How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer penguin meat)   2 months ago

                    The point of the program (the stated one anyway) is to provide nutrition to people who can’t afford it. Saying they can’t spend that money on items that provide no nutritional value isn’t moral condemnation Lying Jeffy.

          2. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

            Okay, a 20 lbs bag of beans, a 20 lbs bag of rice, and 10 lbs of hamburger. This is your monthly ration, don't ask for more.

            If you are upset with this ration, get a fucking job.

            Very little government needed.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

              But that isn't a healthy diet. What about fruits and vegetables? What about dairy? There are also people who have special or different dietary needs. What about those who have certain food allergies? What about vegetarians?

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

                So you're saying those things can't be bought with food stamps?

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

                  Why don't you ask Idaho Bob how he would incorporate a genuinely healthy diet into his "rice and beans and hamburger" plan for food stamps.

                  1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

                    You don't get to argue for a "genuinely healthy diet" and soda and chips.

                    If you want a genuinely healthy diet, get a fucking job. If you want to survive in the short term, beans, rice, and hamburger are on the menu. Incentivizes gainful employment, and/or a garden.

                    You are asking the wrong guy for unlimited handouts. Mother nature doesn't suffer the lazy.

                    1. Don't get eliminated(How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer penguin meat)   2 months ago

                      “You don't get to argue for a "genuinely healthy diet" and soda and chips.”

                      You do if you’re as dishonest as Lying Jeffy.

              2. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

                You were just arguing that welfare/food stamps shouldn't restrict recipients from buying unhealthy products like candy and soda with it, as that would be dehumanizing. Now you're arguing that restricting the options with it to Idaho-Bob's proposal would not be healthy. Do you see the contradiction? It's almost as though you're just shilling for more unrestricted welfare/food stamps.

                1. Don't get eliminated(How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer penguin meat)   2 months ago

                  “Do you see the contradiction?”

                  Do you imagine Lying Jeffy would care if he did?

                  1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

                    When I comment here, I'm not just communicating with the person I'm directly addressing. I also realize others, who aren't regulars, read these comments. I'm very familiar with chemjeff's dishonesty, having read his comments for years now. Some newb who doesn't know chemjeff's tendencies might benefit from having someone call him out for his contradictory reasoning without all the vitriol/insults. He deserves it in most cases, and he's said some fucking disgusting things in the past, but hurling insults is not my style (most of the time).

                    1. Don't get eliminated(How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer penguin meat)   2 months ago

                      You’re doing the lord’s work.

                    2. Strawmancasmic, Town Drunk and Gay for Booze   2 months ago

                      But be sure to remind all the readers of his advocacy for grooming and molestation.

          3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

            How is telling fatties they can't buy junk food with food stamps "excessively burdensome"? The reality is that healthy food is actually cheaper than packaged, processed food, especially if you know how to cook.

            Lazy fat fucks really don't like their cholesterol pipeline being cut off, even after the ones in their heart close off from plaque and they have a massive coronary.

            And let's take a look at the cost aspect of this. Heart disease has been the #1 killer of Americans for years, even during COVID. Diabetes is in the top ten and is a related disease. The skyrocketing cost of healthcare can be significantly correlated to the rise in obesity rates. This doesn't just cost money in the private sector in increased insurance rates and overall healthcare costs, it costs the taxpayers hundreds of billions in Medicare and especially Medicaid charges, not to mention state-funded medical welfare in blue states.

            Cutting off the poors from buying gallons of soda and snack cakes with food stamps saves money on both the front end and back end.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

              Yeah it sure sounds like you all want to use welfare as a means of social manipulation. That's the problem here. Which is ironic coming from the same crowd that pitched a fit when Nanny Bloomberg proposed a tax on sodas in New York.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

                Is this like your complaint about voter ID cards because your fat ass is too lazy to waddle into a DMV for 30 minutes to get a driver's license?

                1. Strawmancasmic, Town Drunk and Gay for Booze   2 months ago

                  Does he even FIT into a car at this point?

              2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

                Yeah it sure sounds like you all want to use welfare as a means of social manipulation. That's the problem here.

                The problem seems to be that you're not happy with your welfare having strings attached.

              3. damikesc   2 months ago

                Bloomberg was taxing people who could afford to buy their own soda. That is not this.

                I am glad to see, though, that you will ALSO argue in favor of increased taxation based solely on whom you are arguing with. Totes consistent.

                You do not get to steal people's money and then do whatever you want with it. Sorry, not the way the world works.

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

                  So what? It's still using the government to manipulate people. It's using one form of welfare (subsidized health care) to justify another type of government manipulation (tax on sugary drinks). That is the same as what RRWP is arguing here.

                  1. Don't get eliminated(How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer penguin meat)   2 months ago

                    Insisting that tax dollars be used for the purpose they were intended for is manipulative?

                    1. DesigNate   2 months ago

                      His argument is so fucking facile and dumb. Welfare can’t be used to buy cigarettes or alcohol either, but in his view that’s “micromanaging”.

                    2. Don't look at me! (Why is penguin meat so expensive now?)   2 months ago

                      I think if you are on welfare, smoking and drinking should be mandatory.

                    3. Don't get eliminated(How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer penguin meat)   2 months ago

                      You could make an argument pop is worse for you than beer.

          4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

            “……that means a greater cost to try to enforce…..”

            ……aaaaaand here comes the defeatist part of the selectively nuanced defeatist.

            No sense even trying if it’s gonna cost money, eh Jeff? This is the spending you object to?

            Radical, dude. Haha.

      5. Don't get eliminated(How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer penguin meat)   2 months ago

        Lying Jeffy thinks we shouldn’t have a say in what the money taken from us is used for, but the people on whose behalf they are taking it for do.

        Because he’s a libertarian like that.

      6. DesigNate   2 months ago

        Breakfast cereal is actually packed with vitamins and minerals, on purpose. Candy, not so much.

        Also, saying the government won’t pay for certain items isn’t fucking micromanaging welfare recipients lives. Jesus H Science!

      7. Ersatz   2 months ago

        he who pays the piper calls the tune

        If the conditions are too onerous one doesnt have to go to govt for money - check the local mosque for support

      8. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

        “Well, part of the issue is…..”

        Awwww, yeah boyeee, here comes some selective nuance in defense of big government and the rights of bums to live their best lives on other people’s money.

        Let’s watch…..

    6. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

      Libertarians for Free Junk Food

      1. Strawmancasmic, Town Drunk and Gay for Booze   2 months ago

        At taxpayer expense!

  11. Randy Sax   2 months ago

    "The White House deserves credit for revitalizing diplomacy to end the war in Ukraine. In its haste for a deal, however, its proposals have too often looked indistinguishable from a surrender on Russia's terms," reports Bloomberg. "American negotiators have offered up a ceasefire plan that would leave Russia in de facto control of almost all the Ukrainian territory it currently occupies. In addition to land, Putin would win substantial sanctions relief. The US may also formally recognize Crimea, which Russia illegally annexed in 2014. Ukraine would be allowed to maintain its military but be offered only vague security guarantees, to be enforced by an ad hoc coalition of allies (not including the US). For at least the duration of the current US administration, it would be barred from joining NATO."

    We knew for years this would be the outcome. But instead of accepting this earlier we sent billions of taxpayer dollars to Ukraine. Great.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      Rule 1 Bloomberg is a fucking liar.

      1. Strawmancasmic, Town Drunk and Gay for Booze   2 months ago

        Michael Bloomberg, or his media outlet?

    2. Zeb   2 months ago

      Pretty much. And didn't Crimea vote to be part of Russia? I suppose maybe the voting was shady, but it isn't implausible. Something for the "democracy" fans to consider.

      1. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

        No shadier than "the cleanest election in history" with it's dead of night vote drops and counts after observers were forced out.

        1. Zeb   2 months ago

          I have no idea. But it does seem to be the case that a lot of people in eastern Ukraine genuinely would rather be part of Russia.

          1. Don't get eliminated(How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer penguin meat)   2 months ago

            Having the Kiev government support Nazis terrorizing you would do that.

      2. damikesc   2 months ago

        I find it impossible to imagine anything involving elections in Ukraine to be shady.

      3. Don't get eliminated(How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer penguin meat)   2 months ago

        No shadier than the Maidan revolution and the election after that.

    3. Don't look at me! (Why is penguin meat so expensive now?)   2 months ago

      Who is “we” , Kemosabe?

      1. Randy Sax   2 months ago

        Me and several of the commentariat.

  12. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Amid strained negotiations with the union that represents its train drivers, New Jersey Transit began telling its customers on Wednesday to prepare for a shutdown...

    Wait until Jerksey commuters get used to the luxury of not riding a train.

    1. Anomalous   2 months ago

      Is there no path to resolving this?

    2. damikesc   2 months ago

      Man, public transportation seems like such an AWESOME thing.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Especially if you never use it.

    3. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

      Wait wait wait...I thought we elected this guy to get the trains to run on time.

      1. Fats of Fury   2 months ago

        You voted for Murphy?

        1. Don't get eliminated(How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer penguin meat)   2 months ago

          Does blaming the governor of New Jersey make Trump look bad? If not QB isn’t interested.

          1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

            Hey! My best friend and I were just joking around. Lighten up.

            Also, are you going to apologize for this?:

            Haha:

            “Now plainly spell out what the tattoo means. Trust me, the retards are gonna lose their minds”

            https://reason.com/2025/04/19/the-supreme-court-is-about-to-hear-2-education-cases-neither-goes-far-enough/?comments=true#comment-11011621

            1. Don't look at me! (Why is penguin meat so expensive now?)   2 months ago

              Old story.

              1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                It's never too late to say, "You were right, QB, and I was wrong.

            2. Don't get eliminated(How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer penguin meat)   2 months ago

              Why would I apologize for you not knowing who Michael Malice is?

              And fyi, he’s the one who coined the term “midwit”.

              1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                Uh huh. Another thing I was right about.

                1. Don't get eliminated(How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer penguin meat)   2 months ago

                  So you did get the meme? Then what’s the issue?

            3. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

              I'll be frank. When I saw you taking your victory lap yesterday about this, I thought you had to be creatively interpreting what Trump said in the interview yesterday. Last night I saw that part of the interview, and I don't think it can be argued that Trump was just referring to the what the symbols represent. He said he "literally" had "MS-13" tattooed on his hand.

              Not a good look for Trump. The reporter even seemed to be trying to move on so as not to make Trump look stupid, but Trump kept doubling down on it.

              I think the preponderance of evidence that's come out in the last month demonstrates that Garcia was a member of MS-13, and not just a "Maryland Man." We can have a debate about whether he was wrongly sent to El Salvador, but it's pretty undeniable that the "MS-13" above his hand tattoos was added to explain the tattoos and not physically tattooed above the symbols. Self own for Trump. I voted for him, but he does fall flat quite a bit. Still the better choice vs Kamala, out of the two candidates that actually would have won.

              1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                When I saw you taking your victory lap yesterday about this

                I would be more gracious about my victory lap, but SEVO, R Mac, DLAM and I all like to joke around like it's hard ball. All in good fun, well at least for me and DLAM. I hope R Mac and SEVO are joking too but sometimes they take to a level I'm not sure about.

                Anyway...

                Yeah, I agree the guy is probably MS-13 and probably should be deported...legally.

                I'm a stickler that it should be done legally though and he definitely should not be in prison without a conviction.

                But what really bothers me is Trump's disregard of the courts' orders. That’s not to say the courts are always right or they don't ever go too far, but it's the last check we have against a dictatorial president, Trump or whoever follows him.

                1. Don't get eliminated(How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer penguin meat)   2 months ago

                  cope is often factual
                  it's rarely truthful

                  https://x.com/michaelmalice/status/1917662783132328194

                2. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

                  I do worry about Trump deciding to disregard LEGAL injunctions or stays. What worries me more, though, is that the judiciary, specifically lower courts, seems to be overstepping its authority and power. Every day a new local or district judge is issuing an injunction to stop Trump from executing his constitutional powers, just because they don't like what he's doing.

                  It seemed to me, at first, that Trump had violated the order of protection for Garcia not to be removed to El Salvador. My understanding was that he had an order of removal, but was barred from being removed to El Salvador. I'm hearing now that the order of protection was not against removal to El Salvador, but to Guatemala. I'm suspicious, as I think we would have heard about that wrinkle from the start, and it doesn't really make sense, but many journalists are lazy and don't fact check for truth, but for narrative.

                  1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

                    If it truly was Guatemala, and not El Salvador, that Garcia was protected from being sent to, that still doesn't mean sending him to CECOT was correct. I'm actually torn on this one. I see the argument that we didn't imprison him without trial, but just sent him to his home country, and El Salvador put him in prison. Other than Garcia, do any of the suspected or known gang members in ES get a trial in ES before being locked up for life? If not, I don't like how ES is operating in that aspect. I get needing to seriously crack down on the gangs to fix the country. But ES is a sovereign nation and can violate civil rights without US involvement.

                    On the other hand, if ES is just throwing suspected gang members in prison for life, and we send Garcia to ES, knowing he won't get a trial before lifetime imprisonment, the US does have some culpability for sending him there.

                    1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      do any of the suspected or known gang members in ES get a trial in ES before being locked up for life?

                      It's my understanding that ES is operating under a state of emergency (sounds familiar) under which suspected gang members are locked up without trial. I'm not sure about 'for life' though.

                      About the Guatemala thing, I noticed that when I looked at the court documents when this situation started. Then I noticed the Supreme Court quotes that ruling and puts [El Salvador] in brackets so it seems they were aware of the Guatemala/El Salvador issue and considered it a typo kind of mistake. That's my take anyway.

                3. rbike   2 months ago

                  So you donated to his defense fund right? So the rest of us don't have to. Right?

                  1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                    Spreading truth and advocating justice is all the support i caremto give. Not all advocacy is transactional.

                    Did you donate to Trump's many defense funds or is this just a double standard?

              2. Don't get eliminated(How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer penguin meat)   2 months ago

                I haven’t seen the interview. His tattoos say MS-13 though.

                1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                  Sometimes cope is neither factual nor truthful.

                2. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

                  The symbols equate to MS-13, but he doesn't have "MS13" LITERALLY tattooed on his hand. That was superimposed ABOVE the symbols on his knuckles to explain how the symbols mean MS-13. The marijuana leaf means "M," the smiley face means "S," the cross means "1," and the skull means "3."

                  Trump very clearly thinks and said that the MS13 that was added, superimposed, is a real tattoo.

                  1. Don't get eliminated(How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer penguin meat)   2 months ago

                    "The symbols equate to"

                    That's an interesting concept. How do you suppose we describe this?

                  2. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

                    All written language is symbols. That's not a winning argument JP.

                    So, yes, if the symbols tattooed on his hands are meant to represent "MS13", then he literally has MS13 tattooed on his hands.

                    If he used the Greek or Cyrillic alphabet instead, would you argue that he didn't "literally" have MS13 on his hands?

                    1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

                      Come on. Don't gaslight me. I think it's obvious, especially now with even more evidence released, that Garcia was in MS-13. The tattoos are evidence for that. But saying he "LITERALLY" has "MS13" tattooed on his hand is disingenuous. Unless you're using the gen Z or Alpha new definition of literally to mean figuratively (I hate this trend), it's incorrect to say he literally has it on his hand.

                      If a gang member has a teardrop tattoo on his face, which is pretty well understood to mean that he killed someone for each teardrop, you wouldn't say he literally has murder tattooed on his face. You'd say he has tattoos on his face that mean he murdered.

  13. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    What economic indicator should we watch closely to know if AI is starting to really change the whole macroeconomy?

    Everyone's investing in Cyberdyne Systems.

    1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

      What economic indicator should we watch closely to know if AI is starting to really change the whole macroeconomy?

      Federal loan payouts?

  14. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

    Liz "I don't want to work in a factory it's icky"
    Also Liz "oh no we have a terrif on China! Now all of my temu shit that's made by slaves in factories cost more!"

    1. Zeb   2 months ago

      Making it out as if the only issue with China is cheap, fake shit is pretty dishonest. Tons of real stuff is made in China too. It's not just Temu crap that people don't really need.
      I agree China is a problem. I don't know what the right solution is. I don't rule out that tariffs may be part of it. But don't pretend that there won't be real pain and problems for US industry and consumers that comes with changing our trade relationship with China.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        "trade relationship with China"

        That "relationship" seems to be more of the OJ and Nicole sort.

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          Wait. Is the US Nicole?

          Does that make the IMF and CATO the found knife?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

            What’s the infamous glove then?

          2. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

            I thought that made the IMF the glove and CATO is Kato.

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              Good point.

              Who is Furhman? I want to nominate Klaus Schwab

      2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        True.

        They make cheap titanium too.

        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13531297/Boeing-Airbus-planes-constructed-fake-Chinese-titanium-cause-jets-break-apart-mid-air-FAA-fears.html

        Also prescription meds and supplements.

        1. Zeb   2 months ago

          And pretty much everything else too.
          You can pretty much get stuff made as well as you want to in China at this point. If you make the effort to go there and make sure they are doing things properly and as instructed.

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

            Boeing has a well established supply chain. And it failed here. The regulations and costs of supply chain for major firms in the US is staggering. Yet it failed.

            The issue is China excludes where a d who companies can monitor in their sourcing.

            Even for pharmaceuticals or supplements China has controls that give companies up to 2 years before a foreign regulatory can inspection them. Meanwhile US producers of both can have inspectors drop in at anytime.

            This is part of the Chinese industrial policy.

            1. Zeb   2 months ago

              I think we're talking about different things.

      3. Chinny Chin Chin   2 months ago

        "It's not just Temu crap that people don't really need."

        It's also the 23 choices of deodorant, and 18 choices of sneakers.

        More seriously, it's not for you or Bernie Sanders to decide what people need. They should be free to make those choices for themselves, and free to make what you deem to be the wrong decisions.

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          And you seem to be free to choose for others what China can steal (estimated 600B a year) or what US laws they can violate.

          1. Zeb   2 months ago

            Not to defend the theft, but companies who do business in China know that that is what happens and still choose to do business there. So in some sense it is worth the costs to them. We don't all collectively own the IP of American companies. They do get to choose which risks are worth being exposed to.

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              They do it from companies that don't choose to do business there as well.

              So a bit of a non sequitur.

            2. Ersatz   2 months ago

              similar to European Union crazy fines on US businesses.
              One uses theft, one - extortion.

        2. Zeb   2 months ago

          I'm not sure what you are talking about. I never said anything about what people need or should be able to get. I completely agree that people get to make their own value judgements. My point was that at the moment, for good or bad, we depend on China to supply or manufacture a lot of things, not just cheap consumer goods that people could easily do without.

          And nobody needs anything. We could all just sit here until we starve to death if we choose. Needs are all conditional. We need food and water if we want to stay alive. We need raw materials if we want to manufacture stuff. We need cheap Temu crap if we think that interesting doodads are the key to a good life but don't want to spend much money.

      4. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

        Except China's entire supply chain ecosystem is rife with fake shit.

      5. damikesc   2 months ago

        It will.

        It will also hurt China. More than us. If people are not buying their crap, and America is the largest market, jobs get lost. With that, Xi gets jettisoned.

        We should simply pass a law that anybody giving their IP away to another country loses ALL IP protections here as well.

        1. Zeb   2 months ago

          Why shouldn't a company be allowed to make the choice to give their IP to another country? It's their IP, their risk to take.

          1. damikesc   2 months ago

            If they give it away for free, us spending any resources protecting it here is an epic waste of time and, most importantly, money.

            1. Zeb   2 months ago

              OK, I guess you have a point there.

          2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

            False assumption it is always freely given.

      6. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

        But don't pretend that there won't be real pain and problems for US industry and consumers that comes with changing our trade relationship with China.

        Getting off the overseas manufacturing tit isn't any easier than getting off the welfare tit. These systems are designed to cause as much pain as possible when people try to shut them down, even if it's better in the long run for it to do so.

        That's why cutting the Gordian knot makes a lot more sense than wasting time trying to untie it. The globalists have spent the better part of 40 years putting this in place, and the last thing they want is a bunch of closed society, self-reliant nations in the First World. They WANT us dependent on these supply lines because it makes it easier to control us. Just look what happened during COVID when the shipments took a shit.

        1. Zeb   2 months ago

          That's a reasonable argument. But the pain that will cause changes the political reality. I'm not necessarily saying that that means we shouldn't do it. But it's not something that will settle out in a year or two and there are elections. People vote on immediate economic concerns.

        2. Don't get eliminated(How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer penguin meat)   2 months ago

          It also provides justification for the MIC.

          Without US citizens being robbed to be the police force for the globe, how will all this wonderful trade happen!

      7. Don't get eliminated(How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer penguin meat)   2 months ago

        Liz is literally on record several times using cheap shit as an argument for trade with China. She even identified it as part of the American dream.

  15. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Attorney General Pam Bondi claims that fentanyl seizures by law enforcement over the first 100 days of the Trump administration have saved 258 million lives.

    Why, that's how many Americans were killed by COVID!

    1. Anomalous   2 months ago

      Almost as many as die in school shootings each year.

    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Why are you only counting the children?

    3. Randy Sax   2 months ago

      Same as the number of times AOC died on J6?

      1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

        "Where is she!?"
        -in a scary sounding voice

    4. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Do you want accurate numbers or do you want (blond) women in positions of power? Make up your mind!

  16. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    NEW: Trump admin. launches 'White House Wire'

    Hopefully they just dusted off the old Attack Waaaaaaaatch! machine they found in the White House basement.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Don't know how they are going to compete with the democrats wire services like AP and Reuters.

    2. MT-Man   2 months ago

      I mean there is the funding of NPR that never seemed to draw this comparison.

      1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

        That's (D)ifferent.

        1. Chupacabra   2 months ago

          Indeed. They did it first.

  17. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

    Well the msm, reason included is 100% negative coverage of Trump. If you didn't participate in the psyop that is msm and told the truth once in your life the white house wouldn't have to counter with their side of the story.

  18. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is trying to make it so that candy and sodas are not eligible to be purchased via food stamps...

    The Libertarian Case for Subsidized Obesity

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Why do you hate Big Pharma, and their dedication to perfecting obesity drugs?

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

        There was a Daily Fail article yesterday showing Christina Aguilera, with the requisite hand-wringing over how skinny she looked.

        Leaving aside the fact that all these celebrities are taking weight loss drugs because they can afford it, the only thing I saw was that she got back the rockin' tight body she had in Y2K and looked like a million bucks.

        1. Eeyore   2 months ago

          They all have Ozempic face. I think they look ill.

        2. Don't get eliminated(How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer penguin meat)   2 months ago

          “Dirty” was one of the greatest music videos of all time.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

            It's telling that all these late 90s-early 00s' pop tarts went in to full-on skank mode once their first album hit it big.

    2. Eeyore   2 months ago

      Food stamps should only pay for bulk food, vegetables, and lab grown chicken.

      1. Eeyore   2 months ago

        And bugs.

  19. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

    fentanyl seizures by law enforcement over the first 100 days of the Trump administration have saved 258 million lives...

    Savior of the Universe
    Flash a-ah
    He'll save every one of us

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Flash! I love you! But we only have 14 hours to save the Earth!

    2. Eeyore   2 months ago

      Well. Myself and 257999999 other Americans were planning to start our fentanil addiction today, but now it's just too much effort. Saved.

  20. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

    Canada ran joint military operations with the ccp. The US should conquer the fag canucks

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      They are destroying themselves through Carney and euthanasia.

      1. damikesc   2 months ago

        We should make a serious play to have Alberta join the USA.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          Look at Putin here.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

          Alberta would declare independence before ever joining the US. They don't want to go from one national entity to another.

          1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

            This. Only about 30% of Albertans who are seriously considering Western Separation favor joining the US.

            They all like the US, but don't want to be part of it because they know Biden's and Obama's roll around now and then too.

            1. damikesc   2 months ago

              We should then assist them with separating from the Chinese-Canadian Communist Party (good lord, Carney is terrible) and make an energy alliance with them.

              They have nothing in common with Canada.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

                We should encourage them to secede and then set up a mutual defense alliance. Might even be able to get most of Saskatchewan, and a huge chunk of BC to break off from Vancouver, to go along with it.

    2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

      "Canada ran joint military operations with the ccp."

      That's just the tip of the iceberg for what is coming. Letting Carney happen was Trump's biggest mistake. He's the consummate WEF globalist who wants to destroy Canada and turn it into an Agenda 2030, netzero, UBI and Social Credit Score paradise.
      He absolutely wants daily threats for invasion from US cranks on social media. He will be Trump's biggest thorn in the side.

      1. damikesc   2 months ago

        The problem, though, is that --- and this is blunt truth --- nobody in the USA takes Canada seriously on anything.

        1. Zeb   2 months ago

          I think that's kind of the problem. Because Canada takes the US seriously. So Trump's bloviation, and online dicks talking about invading Canada seem like nothing over here, but affect how people vote in Canada.

          1. damikesc   2 months ago

            However, if they're going to vote to spite Trump instead of improving Canada, that is ultimately is their fault.

            1. Zeb   2 months ago

              Ultimately, sure. But part of being a politician is knowing that things you say and do will affect how other people behave and react. I don't think that's a very good excuse when you are the president of the USA.

            2. Don't get eliminated(How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer penguin meat)   2 months ago

              Boomers in Canada listed Trump as their #1 issue, the younger generation listed it as #5.

  21. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The White House deserves credit for revitalizing diplomacy to end the war in Ukraine. In its haste for a deal, however, its proposals have too often looked indistinguishable from a surrender on Russia's terms...

    Bloomberg content sponsored by Raytheon.

  22. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    "saved 258 million lives"

    Is it like "jobs saved" from Biden's administration?

    I suspect the number is being misused, being the calculation of how many fatal doses worth of the drug was seized. So if, say, 1 gram is a fatal dose, then 1kg seized "saved" 1000 lives.

    In other words: "We seized enough fentanyl that could have killed xxx people (if they were each given a fatal dose)." Like they say about black mamba venom: A single bite could kill 20 men.

    And, of course, anyone seeking to mock someone will seize on the words and twist them to the worst possible interpretation. E.g.

    Sean Hannity ????????
    @seanhannity
    Joe "30330" Biden: ‘We Have Over 120 Million Dead from COVID’

    Now of course Joe was mentally out of it most of the time and had no idea what he said. But Hannity of course seized on the misstep.

    1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

      You're overthinking this. She just meant 258,000 and misspoke.

      1. Zeb   2 months ago

        That still seems awfully high.

        1. Don't look at me! (Why is penguin meat so expensive now?)   2 months ago

          No pun intended?

          1. Zeb   2 months ago

            No. I very rarely intend puns.

            1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

              You just gave Chumby a sad.

  23. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

    American negotiators have offered up a ceasefire plan that would leave Russia in de facto control of almost all the Ukrainian territory it currently occupies.

    There's not going to be a peace deal that doesn't include that.

    1. damikesc   2 months ago

      Yeah, going to be a challenge to tell a country that has held the territory for a decade and has had zero actual threats to losing it to give it up.

    2. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Goes for the rest as well.

      A peace deal where Ukraine joins NATO and we pledge to support and defend the whole alliance until the sun burns out because Russia fought to a standstill with Ukrainian irregulars in their own outhouse? Fuck that noise.

  24. mad.casual   2 months ago

    New Pravda just dropped

    LOL @ the overt, layered, Gell-Mann/Pravda/"spiderman pointing at spiderman pointing at spiderman" effect of "[endpoint within host domain] is Pravda".

    "The sports section of the NYT is pure propaganda, but the rest of the paper is totally trustworthy and Whitehouse.gov has been a baptismal font of objective facts pure as the driven snow... until just now! You have my word on it!" - Reason

  25. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    "New Pravda just dropped:"

    I guess Liz never saw or read a single Biden admin press release?

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Even if you hadn't.

      "New Pravda just dropped"
      "Governments operating '.gov' sites is a psyop."
      "Having a press secretary is such a socialist move."
      "Everything every politician has said is propaganda."
      "Everyone else has an agenda except me."

      NPR and their affiliates have been government funded for 70 plus years. We hounded Snowden out of the country and Assange off of Amazon. We have proof of the actual and direct silencing of millions of posts across multiple social media platforms at the behest of the FBI and the addition of a 'wired' endpoint to 'whitehouse.gov' is what gets your panties in a bunch? Like whitehouse.gov was some sort of baptismal font of objective facts white as the driven snow until *just now*? JFC. "Duh." doesn't seem to cut it.

  26. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    Surprised Reason hasn't mentioned this story despite apparently being against credentialism.

    Trump to look into ABA accreditation due to requirements for law schools to teach DEI.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/04/trump-targets-american-bar-association-accreditation-power-something-ive-advocated-for-years/

    1. Don't look at me! (Why is penguin meat so expensive now?)   2 months ago

      Trump is involved, so it’s bad now.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        The DNC motto since 2016.

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      The aba is a political organization

  27. Vernon Depner   2 months ago
    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      Agreed

  28. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    Nick Sortor
    @nicksortor
    #BREAKING: A federal judge has just ordered the RELEASE of an anti-Tesla terrorist in Boston due to them being transgender

    THIS IS INSANE.

    The DOJ needs to step in NOW!
    Video

    https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1917723500313207289

    Reminder. Most of J6 defendants were denied bail.

    1. Longtobefree   2 months ago

      "Most of J6 defendants were denied bail."

      But they were a bunch of crazed right-wing Christian nationalists!
      And (lower case) white!

    2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      "due to them being transgender"

      So "Not guilty by reason of insanity"??

    3. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      The DOJ needs to step in NOW!

      A federal judge will simply declare the DOJ can't enforce any laws. I'm waiting for a district judge to tell us that district judges run the country. But only Dem appointed judges, not those other icky judges.

    4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      The "logical" conclusion of critical theory and intersectionality. But remember, those things are just abstract ideas only discussed among legal scholars. Oh, wait...

    5. damikesc   2 months ago

      Yeah, judge needs to be told no.

  29. Longtobefree   2 months ago

    ""Investors are in for a shock in the next few weeks as the slowing flow of goods from China underscores the risks tariffs bring to the US economy . . . "

    OR

    Investors are in for a shock in the next few weeks as the slowing flow of goods from China underscores the risks of being dependent on an enemy for critical minerals and products.

    This is a drill, it is only a drill.
    If this was a real economic attack, there would not be an option of negotiating lower tariffs.

    1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

      They're saving that for when they retake Taiwan.

      1. Longtobefree   2 months ago

        Just for the record:
        The Communists never had Taiwan.

  30. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    Townhall.com
    @townhallcom
    Democrat Hank Johnson: "First, they came for the Latinos outside of the Home Depots trying to get work so that they could feed their families."

    "I didn't say anything about it, because I'm not a Latino at the Home Depot."

    "Then they came for the Hispanic looking folks wearing hats backwards with tattoos, and they deported them to El Salvador."

    "I didn't say anything about that because I don't wear my hair backward, and I don't have any tattoos, and I don't look like a Latino."

    "Then they came for the Latinas at home taking care of the children..."
    Video

    https://x.com/townhallcom/status/1917664602567106561

  31. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    "Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is trying to make it so that candy and sodas are not eligible to be purchased via food stamps, "

    How about making McDonalds not eligible for EBT?

    People on foodstamps in California can use their EBT cards at hundreds of fast food places.

    https://icaliforniafoodstamps.com/restaurants-that-take-ebt-in-california/

    Whenever the topic of foodstamps comes up, I loke to pull this from the files:

    https://www.salon.com/2010/03/16/hipsters_food_stamps_pinched/

    Mak, 31, grew up in Westchester, graduated from the University of Chicago and toiled in publishing in New York during his 20s before moving to Baltimore last year with a meager part-time blogging job and prospects for little else. About half of his friends in Baltimore have been getting food stamps since the economy toppled, so he decided to give it a try; to his delight, he qualified for $200 a month.

    "I'm sort of a foodie, and I'm not going to do the 'living off ramen' thing," he said, fondly remembering a recent meal he'd prepared of roasted rabbit with butter, tarragon and sweet potatoes. "I used to think that you could only get processed food and government cheese on food stamps, but it's great that you can get anything."

    1. Don't look at me! (Why is penguin meat so expensive now?)   2 months ago

      “Part time blogger”.
      Too repetitive to do it full time.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        IT'S LIKE FACTORY WORK!

        1. Don't look at me! (Why is penguin meat so expensive now?)   2 months ago

          DO YOU WANT HIM DO DIE FROM STRESS?

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

            Um, OK.

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        Pretty sure that spelled "slacker".

  32. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    HHS to investigate 89B, yes B, contract given to California firm that has been inactive since 2022, funding given as Biden was exiting the white house. I'm sure a judge will order dispersement of funds.

    https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/hhs-reexamine-massive-89-billion-contract-awarded-california-nonprofit

    1. damikesc   2 months ago

      I love the judicial view that if the executive sees blatantly obvious fraud --- they are powerless to not engage in it as well.

      1. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

        Right, force disbursement then call them co-conspirators in the media for doing what the court demands over the administration's objections.

      2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Even though the laws and appropriation includes language to look for fraud.

  33. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    Don't know how sarc was able to speak on the congressional floor.

    https://x.com/SenWarren/status/1917417133090209869

    1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

      Sarc lost a lot of weight, had a sex change, and became Native American?

      That's the most work sarcjeff has ever done.

  34. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    NYT discovers hot new trend with wearing crosses as a necklace.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/29/style/cross-necklaces-christian-faith.html

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Be fair. The average NYT reporter has an intellectual age of 12, and does not know that the world existed prior to 2020.

  35. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/dont-blame-renewables-spains-power-outage-bousso-2025-04-30/?taid=6812389c353de00001e35c11&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

    Headline: Don’t blame renewables for Spain’s power outage
    Second sentence: Rather, the issue appears to be the management of renewables in the modern grid.

    1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

      From the article.

      ""The cause of the initial drop that led to the catastrophic cascade of events is unclear,""

      We don't know what caused it but don't blame renewables.

      1. Don't look at me! (Why is penguin meat so expensive now?)   2 months ago

        It was a cloudy windless day.

  36. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    We must not fire the bureaucracy that is openly attempting to defying legal presidential orders. - sarc

    https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/federal-workers-paid-taxpayers-openly-defying-trump-agenda-will-voters

  37. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    I'm sympathetic to Zuckerberg's argument, which is about alternatives, recognizing that not every person will have the optimal community they desire. But people's social muscles will atrophy when they resort to hollow, virtual connections as a loneliness anesthetic.

    Maybe they can find friends on the factory floor instead of in front of their computers in pajamas?

  38. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    Last month, the International Monetary Fund lowered its 2025 outlook for all G7 nations—Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the U.K., and the U.S.—citing our new tariff policy as the reason why.

    But I've been assured by Boehm and others tariffs only harm American consumers.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      And yesterday, our own Commerce Department noted that gross domestic product (GDP) adjusted for inflation had declined at a 0.3 percent annual rate over the first three months of 2025.

      Is this due to maybe government spending cuts as they are part of the calculation?

      I called this narrative 2 months ago when DOGE started. Cutting government spending will be said to be bad due to GDP being lowered. And here we are.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        And think of the crushing new unemployment!

      2. DesigNate   2 months ago

        He should have just spent that money instead of looking for waste!

    2. Longtobefree   2 months ago

      Ah, yes. The IMF.
      Second in reliability only to the New York Times, right?

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        The IMF has never disappointed CATO.

      2. damikesc   2 months ago

        The IMF is the WHO of money.

  39. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

    "(Some of this may be attributable to a surge of imports in advance of the imposition of massive tariffs, which would affect GDP because imports get subtracted.)"

    See? See? Imports bad, tariffs good. Once we get rid of all trade and get back to doing everything ourselves, GDP gonna soar, gonna fly, gonna be Wright Brothers all over again.

    How high did they get, 12 feet or something? Ha! We'll do 15 and love it!

    1. Longtobefree   2 months ago

      Technically, 12 feet higher than the previous record.

      And just think of all the Ohioans who no longer could buy a bicycle - - - - - -

    2. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

      Be careful around all of that straw.

  40. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   2 months ago

    General Motors trims 2025 guidance, anticipating potential $5 billion tariff impact

    https://apnews.com/article/general-motors-gm-trump-tariff-barra-721e481b45903a39870fe6d84b3e4bbf

    WINNING!

    1. Don't look at me! (Why is penguin meat so expensive now?)   2 months ago

      Another reason you can’t have a chick in charge.

    2. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

      Government Motors gets no sympathy from me

    3. Fats of Fury   2 months ago

      Obama's installed gal pal running GM into the ground.
      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gm-recall-escalade-silverado-suburban-sierra-engine-failure-risk/

  41. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    "The average American has, I think, fewer than three friends…and the average person has demand for meaningfully more, I think it's like 15 friends….The average person wants more connection than they have"

    How many D.C. cocktail party "friends" does the average Reason writer wish for?

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      The average American has, I think, fewer than three friends…

      Lizard person in charge of failed Social Media Platform occupied only by people alive during the depression declares everyone only has 3 (living) friends.

    2. Don't look at me! (Why is penguin meat so expensive now?)   2 months ago

      The important number is how many friends with benefits .

  42. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is trying to make it so that candy and sodas are not eligible to be purchased via food stamps, reports News Nation.

    Good. Already subsidizing their food. Don't need to have to subsidize for the free healthcare they get too based on what they buy with food stamps.

  43. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    "Amid strained negotiations with the union that represents its train drivers, New Jersey Transit began telling its customers on Wednesday to prepare for a shutdown of the statewide rail service as soon as May 16"

    Do the union train drivers want to work from home?

    1. Longtobefree   2 months ago

      No, they just want the paychecks direct deposited and not to go to work at all.

    2. Randy Sax   2 months ago

      Unironically, this seems like a job for AI.

      Go forward on the track. Stop. Go forward. Stop. Turn around at the loop. Go forward. Stop.

      easy.

      1. damikesc   2 months ago

        Blue states never look at the opportunity because unions tend to OWN those states.

        Just like how blue states are going bankrupt giving free services to illegals.

      2. Zeb   2 months ago

        Not even AI. Plain old automation. I'm pretty sure trains (on a well designed system that knows where all the trains are) would be safer without human drivers at this point.

  44. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    "What economic indicator should we watch closely to know if AI is starting to really change the whole macroeconomy?"

    Tariffs on meat puppets? DEI 2.0 that favors robots and machine learning? Replacing the Fed chair with AI?

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Cheap consumer electronics and the rise of low-brow, fake-news, click-bait, location-tracking social media platforms.

  45. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'Attorney General Pam Bondi claims that fentanyl seizures by law enforcement over the first 100 days of the Trump administration have saved 258 million lives. (It's implied that they're American lives.) This, uh, does not seem plausible.'

    Hey, if the Paul Erhlichs, Al Gores, and Gretas can kill billions every few years, then Pam can certainly claim to save a fraction of us.

  46. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is trying to make it so that candy and sodas are not eligible to be purchased via food stamps, reports News Nation.'

    What about weed, condoms, and mixed drinks? Asking for Reason staff.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Don't they get enough of those at the cocktail parties?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Only if they have friends.

  47. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Sec State Rubio helped hammer out peace talks deal in Congo/Rwanda.

    https://x.com/SecRubio/status/1915889718736154627

    Secretary Marco Rubio

    @SecRubio
    The Declaration of Principles that the Foreign Ministers of the Democratic Republic of the Congo and Rwanda signed today in our nation’s capital paves the way for peace, stability, and prosperity in the region. The Declaration will help protect our strategic interest in critical minerals to grow our tech sector and bring sorely needed peace and stability to the region.

    https://x.com/business/status/1917201101088055520

    Bloomberg
    @business
    Feuding Rwanda and Democratic Republic of Congo agree to draft a peace agreement

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-04-29/next-africa-can-trump-end-a-decades-long-conflict-in-congo

    As part of the peace accord, the Congolese and Rwandan authorities are expected to commit to joint projects in hydropower, national parks and mineral supply chains “in partnership with the US government and US investors,” they state in a declaration of principles.

    If things go according to plan — and there is no shortage of skepticism that it will — the US approach could end a more than 30-year-long regional conflict over land, resources, ethnicity and political power that kicked off after the perpetrators of the 1994 Rwandan genocide fled across the border into Congo.

    In Trump’s words that would be “a terrific thing.”

    1. rbike   2 months ago

      Winning.

      I am sure I will not here a word on this from the MSM.

  48. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

    "What economic indicator should we watch closely to know if AI is starting to really change the whole macroeconomy?" asks The Atlantic's Derek Thompson. His attempt at answering that question is here.

    There is simply no possible way you'll get valuable insight on this from The Atlantic

    1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

      You're right. Good patriotic Americans turn to the White House Wire for their reliable news!

      1. damikesc   2 months ago

        WH Wire is quite open on its POV.

        The press is not.

        1. DesigNate   2 months ago

          92% negative coverage would point to them being very open with their bias.

          1. damikesc   2 months ago

            chemjeff does not see it.

  49. Rick James   2 months ago

    I'm sympathetic to Zuckerberg's argument, which is about alternatives, recognizing that not every person will have the optimal community they desire.

    It's about choices!

  50. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    "What economic indicator should we watch closely to know if AI is starting to really change the whole macroeconomy?" asks The Atlantic's Derek Thompson..."

    Certainly NOT where I'd look for the answer to that question.

  51. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   2 months ago

    NSA chief Mike Waltz fired, Peanuts.

    I thought the Neo-Nazi frat boy would be fired first.

    Many more to follow.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

      Cite? Links, please.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   2 months ago

        You don't know how to find news?

        1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

          Is the grey box saying "Cite?" as usual? You know he only does that so he can attack your sources. Remember that everything he says is in bad faith. Even when he pretends to converse in good faith it's just a setup for an attack of some sort. That's why he's best on mute.

        2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    3. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

      neocon warboner leaves the NSA. No one fucking cares

    4. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

      Bernie Sanders voice: "That's a good thing!"

      From the start, I didn't want Mike Waltz in a position of power influencing Trump. Waltz's neocon tendencies should have had no part of a Trump administration that prides itself on not starting any new wars in his first term.

  52. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

    "The White House deserves credit for revitalizing diplomacy to end the war in Ukraine. In its haste for a deal, however, its proposals have too often looked indistinguishable from a surrender on Russia's terms," reports Bloomberg.

    So?

    1. Don't look at me! (Why is penguin meat so expensive now?)   2 months ago

      When there is only one exit, that’s the way you go.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

        So there's no lesser used door?

  53. sarcasmic   2 months ago

    Here's Reagan talking about tariffs. As you can see he had a terminal case of TDS. Nobody talks like that about tariffs unless they are a deranged leftist.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Mj6N-WBPrVw

    1. Don't look at me! (Why is penguin meat so expensive now?)   2 months ago

      So Reagan is cool now?

      1. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

        This is like when atheists try to tell christians how to be good followers of jesus. He doesnt mean. He does not in any way shape or form like Reagan. But he thinks you do so he's invoking Reagan to make his point.

        1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

          That's funny coming from someone who will go on the attack against anyone who says what Reagan said in that clip. Face it, you hate Reagan. He stood for freedom, and you hate that shit. He supported free trade, and you hate that shit. He didn't scapegoat immigrants, and you hate that shit. He didn't bow to the Soviets, and you hate that shit. You hate everything he stood for. And you're saying that I don't like him? He was the anti-Trump. Of course I like him.

          1. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

            I am not pro-tariffs. You are the master of projection

            1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

              Yet you attack anyone who criticizes Trump's economic policy. I smell a liar.

              1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

                That's not proof he's pro-tariffs.
                You are lying by projecting.

                1. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

                  this poor guy is clearly mentally ill. It's amazing to watch

          2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

            He didn't bow to the Soviets, and you hate that shit.

            LOL, please. I want all commies to be exterminated, not just the Russian ones.

            Reagan also, like a lot of Christians going back to the Puritans, was confused about the "shining city on a hill." You can't create the City of God via the City of Man. Never could, and that includes the US.

  54. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

    Nothing will ever top the Republican's failure to reject Ketanji Jackson Brown.

    > The two Independents who caucus with Democrats voted yea
    >Sens. Susan Collins (R-Maine), Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), and Mitt Romney (R-Utah) voted yea

    Just a travesty.

    1. Longtobefree   2 months ago

      If you caucus with democrats, you are a democrat.

      While the republicans (theoretically) control the Senate, they should make the rules so that the majority party is determined by actual party membership, independents count as a separate group.

    2. damikesc   2 months ago

      Which shows just how much of a useless shit Romney was. Murkowski is simply a corrupt bitch and Collins is a moron.

  55. Ajsloss   2 months ago

    Listen to her! She’s saying that if they hadn’t confiscated that fentanyl, 258 million Americans would have died.

    That’s 2/3 of us. Bless you President Trump!

    Masks still saved more lives, even though we all died multiple times.

    1. Longtobefree   2 months ago

      COVID math?

  56. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

    Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is trying to make it so that candy and sodas are not eligible to be purchased via food stamps, reports News Nation.

    Get rid of food stamp program entirely. Problem solved.

    1. damikesc   2 months ago

      How dare you post that on a libertarian site! Libertarians now support food stamps et al.

    2. DesigNate   2 months ago

      Neither of these positions seems bad from a libertarian perspective.

  57. DesigNate   2 months ago

    “declined at a 0.3 percent annual rate over the first three months of 2025. "This was the first quarter of negative growth since Q1 of 2022," notes CNBC. "Economists surveyed by Dow Jones had been looking for a gain of 0.4% after GDP rose by 2.4% in the fourth quarter of 2024.”

    How much of that growth was fueled by government spending? How much of the decline is from whatever meager spending was cut/stopped?

  58. Think It Through   2 months ago

    Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is trying to make it so that candy and sodas are not eligible to be purchased via food stamps

    Wait. You mean they are?

    That's fucking ridiculous.

  59. Incunabulum   2 months ago

    'Her' is not the way.

    'Terminator' got the machine at all wrong. It won't be killer robots killing humanity, it will be chatbots and robot fuckdolls that make us quietly go extinct.

  60. Incunabulum   2 months ago

    >so that candy and sodas are not eligible to be purchased via food stamps

    Good.

    1. NoVaNick   2 months ago

      Had better exclude 3 liter Fanta bottles or this is racist!

      1. rbike   2 months ago

        Fanta, the Volkswagen of soda.

  61. Incunabulum   2 months ago

    >indistinguishable from a surrender on Russia's terms

    Yeah. Because Russia won.

  62. Fats of Fury   2 months ago

    Supplemental NUTRITION Assistance Program.
    Easy to understand except for the people using the program.

    1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

      A healthy diet is white supremacy.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      "But sugar comes from nature, maaaaaaaaaaaaan!"

    3. Don't get eliminated(How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer penguin meat)   2 months ago

      Nutrition is just a social construct.

      — Lying Jeffy

  63. NoVaNick   2 months ago

    I have a few “close” friends meaning we might text every couple of months and occasionally get together for a beer or weekend camping with our kids. I think this is pretty normal for guys in their 50s nowadays. Somehow though, there is this idea that we should all have a dozen such friends we hang out with every day. Maybe it was like this 60 years ago when guys belonged to civic groups, bowling leagues, or could hang out at the local bar, but now most people I know live in different parts of the country or world, or are too busy with work and family.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      Even 60 years ago, those weren't necessarily friends in the sense that you'd go hunting or fishing with them. They were, for all intents and purposes, professional colleagues because those groups were how a lot of political and business agreements got hammered out. It's easier to do that when you know your wife's got the domestic front locked down.

      I don't think a lot of Zoomers do the kind of partying we did 30-40 years ago. Most don't go to bars and they can barely communicate with each other if it isn't via smartphone screen. Our technocratic masters purposefully created an atomized society where the gender roles were obliterated and intimate communication all but impossible, and are now complaining that the fruit of their poisonous tree is reaping a bitter harvest.

      1. Don't get eliminated(How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer penguin meat)   2 months ago

        And while I support legalizing drugs, getting an entire generation stoned out of their gourds was also part of the plan.

    2. Zeb   2 months ago

      Well, that's a choice people make too. I have a good group of friends who I see regularly. And a big part of why that is is that I decided I wanted to live close to where I grew up and have always lived exactly so that I could be close to friends and family. TO me that's more important than pursuing some lofty career goal or moving to the big city or whatever.

  64. Eeyore   2 months ago

    Knowing how government funding distorts prices. Food stamps are probably why junk food has gotten so expensive. Those cunts have no reason not to spend it. The equilibrium price ends up much higher than it would be otherwise. Expect lobbying push back from big beverage. No later than the next omnibus and it will be added to the law as a human right to drink subsidized soda.

  65. Use the Schwartz   2 months ago

    social muscles will atrophy

    Now hold on just a minute! Everybody is just accepting this scientism bullshit at face value?

    1. I'm afraid my Social Muscle may be in a different location than the author's.
    2. There is no "normal" social interaction standard.
    3. ????
    4. Blue Pills.
    5. Profit.

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