The Country's Largest Police Union, Which Repeatedly Endorsed Trump, Is Dismayed by His Capitol Riot Pardons
The Fraternal Order of Police mistakenly thought that the president "supports our law enforcement officers" and "has our backs."

The Fraternal Order of Police (FOP), which supported President Donald Trump's election in 2016, 2020, and 2024, yesterday criticized his blanket pardon for people charged in connection with the January 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol. The FOP, the country's largest police union, is troubled by the president's clemency for Trump supporters who assaulted police officers while expressing their outrage at a supposedly stolen election.
"Crimes against law enforcement are not just attacks on individuals or public safety," the FOP said in a joint statement with the International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP). "They are attacks on society and undermine the rule of law. Allowing those convicted of these crimes to be released early diminishes accountability and devalues the sacrifices made by courageous law enforcement officers and their families. When perpetrators of crimes, especially serious crimes, are not held fully accountable, it sends a dangerous message that the consequences for attacking law enforcement are not severe, potentially emboldening others to commit similar acts of violence."
Spreading the blame around, the FOP and the IACP roped former President Joe Biden into their critique of misguided clemency for people convicted of violence against police officers. The organizations cited "long standing and positive relationships with both President Trump and President Biden," thanking them for "their support of the policing profession." But they added that they are "deeply discouraged by the recent pardons and commutations granted by both the Biden and Trump Administrations to individuals convicted of killing or assaulting law enforcement officers."
The groups' beef with Biden presumably involves his last-minute commutation for Leonard Peltier, a Native American activist who was convicted of murdering two FBI agents during a 1975 shootout at the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation. Peltier, who is now 80 and ailing, served half a century for those crimes before Biden commuted his life sentence to home confinement on Monday.
Former FBI Director Christopher Wray described Peltier as "a remorseless killer" in a letter urging Biden to keep him in prison. But Biden noted that "Tribal Nations, Nobel Peace laureates, former law enforcement officials (including the former U.S. Attorney whose office oversaw Mr. Peltier's prosecution and appeal), dozens of lawmakers, and human rights organizations strongly support granting Mr. Peltier clemency, citing his advanced age, illnesses, his close ties to and leadership in the Native American community, and the substantial length of time he has already spent in prison."
Whatever you think of Peltier's commutation, it is different in kind and scale from Trump's pardons for Capitol rioters.
First, although Biden showed he is by no means averse to self-interested acts of clemency, he has no personal stake in this particular case. Trump, by contrast, has a strong interest in minimizing the crimes committed by his supporters, who were inspired by his baseless claim that massive election fraud had deprived him of his rightful victory. That interest explains why Trump, who in 2021 described the riot as "a heinous attack on the United States Capitol," now portrays it as "a day of love."
Second, allowing an elderly murderer to die at home after spending most of his life in prison is not quite the same as granting pardons to "heroes" and "patriots" who assaulted police during the Capitol riot. The former does not imply that Peltier is innocent or undeserving of punishment, while the latter suggests that the January 6 defendants were all victims of "a grave national injustice," as Trump put it.
Third, Biden's commutation involves one sick old man who poses no plausible threat to public safety, while Trump's pardons included about 600 people who were charged with "assaulting, resisting, or impeding law enforcement agents or officers or obstructing those officers" during the riot. As of last November, the Justice Department reported, that group included 169 defendants "charged with using a deadly or dangerous weapon or causing serious bodily injury to an officer."
Trump's pardons, unlike Biden's commutation, implicitly excuse political violence, as long as it is committed by people who love the president and acted based on his phony grievance. Trump shows no such lenience when left-leaning protesters who hate him tangle with the police. Those "thugs" obviously belong in jail, he thinks.
More generally, Trump's authoritarian "law and order" instincts lead him to oppose accountability for police officers who violate people's constitutional rights. But when his supporters attack police officers who are simply doing their jobs, as happened during the Capitol riot, he sees no crime worthy of punishment.
The only plausible explanation for this blatant inconsistency is that Trump sees everything through a narcissistic lens, which is apparent even when he manages to do the right thing. When he pardoned Ross Ulbricht on Tuesday, Trump noted that the Silk Road founder "was given two life sentences, plus 40 years," for creating a website that connected drug buyers with drug sellers, which the president rightly described as "ridiculous." Trump sympathized with Ulbricht, he said, because "the scum that worked to convict him"—prosecutors at the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York—"were some of the same lunatics who were involved in the modern day weaponization of government against me."
Trump perceived no contradiction between his sympathy for Ulbricht and his oft-repeated position that drug dealers should be executed. That hard-line attitude likewise did not stop him from condemning "very unfair" drug penalties, freeing drug offenders such as Alice Johnson in response to celebrity appeals, or supporting drug sentencing reform—a cause he embraced based on a political bet that he later complained did not pay off. "Did it for African Americans," he told a New York Times reporter in 2022. "Nobody else could have gotten it done. Got zero credit."
Trump's otherwise puzzling incoherence on criminal justice and drug policy is understandable only if you recognize that his self-interest overrides any principles he claims to support. That includes the principle that people who assault police officers deserve to be punished.
When the FOP endorsed Trump in September, its president, Patrick Yoes, said the Republican nominee "has shown time after time that he supports our law enforcement officers and understands the issues our members face every day." During his first term, Yoes said, Trump "made it crystal clear that he has our backs." If the FOP's leaders are now surprised that Trump abandoned that commitment when it conflicted with his personal interests, they have not been paying attention.
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"Whatever you think of Peltier's commutation, it is different in kind and scale from Trump's pardons for Capitol rioters."
You're right. I don't think any of the Capitol "rioters" murdered any FBI agents in a shootout. I could be wrong though.
These people have gone thru enough. Let's just move on
And there's considerable debate about whether Peltier's actions could reasonably be construed as murder.
No cops died 1/6.
That is a pretty low bar.
Which Peltier didn't pass, but Joe Biden pardoned him anyway. You like that?
That’s (D)ifferent!
Shrike is dumber than a bag of rocks.
They all are. We don’t have any smart leftists here.
Both bags AND rocks have many, many useful uses. Unlike the grey boxes I see here…
And it’s true. So what’s your issue, MollyRetard?
Molly's issue just MIGHT be that shit seems to be the standard among sore-in-the-cunt cuntsorevatruds around here; "No harm, no foul". Ye may take ass MANY shots ass ye please, at stealing democracy and replacing shit with mobocracy, ass long ass ye please, Trumpanzees gone apeshit... Ass long ass ye do SNOT suck-cede in bringing about the undemocratic spermanent TrumptatorShit, then, no harm, no foul!!!
Can I shoot 45 * 45 bullets at YOU, and, so long ass all of them MISS, ye are OK with shit?
For lefty shits like you and Sullum, perhaps.
No cops were injured either.
Keep telling yourself that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUqoSTCiRyg
Were any cops even injured? Except for the lies about Sicknick (who was untouched but died of a stroke the next day) I have seen absolutely no reports of cops being treated at a hospital for injuries, nor any photos of injured cops.
Do you consider being sprayed in the face with bear spray... an 'injury?' How bout being beat with a fire extinguisher? A police shield?
People were convicted of doing those things -most were convicted based on video of them doing it. So presumably the events happened. Do those type of things normally cause injuries?
Use a little common sense. This revisionist history bs doesn't work when almost all of it was caught on frickin video (often by the very people doing the actions recording themselves); trials were held and people were convicted by juries.
The bear spray was real and little different from the spray the cops were using against even peaceful protestors.
The fire extinguisher was a fake story put out by msnbc that even came with a fake video, that was produced by msnbc to mislead it's viewers.
There was a fire extinguisher, on tape, that was thrown into the crowd and was deflected by an officer, he was not hit.
Stop ling bout what went on, it was a peaceful protest that went too far, like almost all leftist protests, except everyone was charges instead of no one being charged.
You are pushing revisionist history/lies, not those defending the Jan 6th people.
Mostly convicted by Judges via plea bargains, as they charged them extra so a plea would look better. Those who did go to trial were treated way worse, which is the usual with the fed when you are innocent and plead not guilty.
Defending the federal system that achieves a 95% conviction rate is defending tyranny.
Nobody with an ounce of intelligence should believe anything the MSM says.
MSNBC is by far the worst of the lot.
It should be PMSNBC.
In other news Jim Acosta(CNN) has been relegated to late night.
The issue I have is the selective condemnation of this one riot compared to everything else. Compared to the May 2020 riots, where secret service agents were wounded and the White House was evacuated, or the outright insurrection of the CHAZ district. This one thing, which despite repeated claims to the contrary, was an unorganized and disparate protest that got out of control, has been singled out for extreme levels of prosecution.
And worse, the explicit reason that they did so is the political nature and of the protestors and the actions that they were expousing.
In short, they were being prosecuted BECAUSE THEY SUPPORTED TRUMP. And this was stated openly and officially. If that doesn't scare you, you aren't paying attention.
More likely they were prosecuted because the broke though the police barricade, broke doors and windows to enter the Capital, beat up and pepper sprayed the police, wanted to murder the VP, took a shit in the non-bathroom areas of the capital, and, oh ya, tried to keep Trump on as an unelected Preisident.
Well done on completely skipping over his point shit stain.
Uhhh, I guess you missed the videos of the police opening doors for he crowd, escorting them around the hallways, and generally acting as tour guides.
Oh right, because you only listened to the Dems on the j6 committee who didn't report on that part.
Most of what you said is bullshit. And now it is finally being treated like bullshit.
You lose.
Who knows what really happened? Maybe we would have some better understanding if we had the technology to create artificial eyes and ears that could somehow record the light and sound waves for later analysis. It would be even better if almost everyone in the country carried this marvel invention everywhere they went. Oh wait...
Artificial eyes and ears which showed capitol police opening doors and escorting deadly rioters around the capitol? Oh wait ....
There was video of the whole thing. The capital has probably more video than anywhere available to the public than a Vegas casino. The problem was that the video was controlled by Nancy Pelosi (who appears to have orchestrated much of it, which is why she was followed around that day by her daughter filming her), and was heavily curated by her hand picked J6 Committee as to what video was provided to the FBI. So, when defendants would ask for exonerating video, the DOJ could honestly say that they didn’t have any - because it was controlled by another branch of the government. It was only when the Republicans took control of the House that a lot of the video became available.
We had these marvelous devices. The select committee deleted that evidence.
The Jan 6th peaceful protestors are pardoned, and I am happy about that. They had a right to protest a corrupt election. The Democrat party had no right to persecute them. The stain smeared on America by Biden's incompetent and malevolent reign will not soon fade.
"More likely they were prosecuted because the broke though the police barricade, broke doors and windows to enter the Capital, beat up and pepper sprayed the police, wanted to murder the VP, took a shit in the non-bathroom areas of the capital, and, oh ya, tried to keep Trump on as an unelected Preisident."
That's an impressive number of lies in one paragraph, but steaming piles of lefty shit have never been known for their honesty.
Fuck off and die, shit-stain.
What did we discuss about calling people names?
Fuck off and die, shit-stain.
So who was prosecuted for attacking Secret Service agents guarding the White House?
Rubbish. Name one of those prisoners who has been through prosecution.
They have all been imprisoned for four years without counsel, without trial, with out medical aid allowed to sicken and nearly die, being beaten and tortured. in tiny cells that even a violent criminal would not be held in.
This is the sort of punishment only a dictator would do to his political enemies. Something you would see in CCP, North Korea and Ukraine. Not in America.
They wouldn't refer to the George Floyd . . . um . . . "disturbances" as riots, but I can't help but wonder if this is just because wokeism is so clearly in decline. I remember when the term "riot" was racist. This may be a sign that things are getting better. The country is waking up from a feverish dream.
Figured someone would say J6 was ok because Democrats did it first.
Yes, the much smaller and shorter event was less of a big deal than the months long one.
Democrats basically did J6 first too. By having dozens of FBI agents in key positions to gin things up, and Pelosi withholding adequate security to ensure things got out of,control.
Which is what you wanted. Because nothing matters more than destroying Trump. Except for getting blackout drunk every day.
Democrats did it because the lizard people told them to.
No. It was mostly Pelosi. The Capital Police worked for her. And they were the ones who escorted people into and through the buildings, then initiated much of the violence by attacking the, up to that point, peaceful, protesters. Why else would she have her daughter follow her around that day, filming her. And why else would she violate long standing tradition, and not allow the opposition party to name a single member of the committee that she formed to investigate her J6 riot?
The truth needs to be exposed.
Pelosi needs to account for her actions.
You’re like a broken record with this strawman.
There is a difference between saying "it's okay" and "why are we prosecuting one group orders of magnitude worse than the other?".
I am referring to the latter. If you don't have a response, then just say so don't ignore my point and pretend I said something else.
"I never thought leopards would eat MY face," sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party.
This is a strange comment. Can you elaborate?
She's commenting on Hawaiians who can't rebuild their homes because the politicians they voted for won't break the laws they voted for.
It's a saying popular on Reddit. Basically it means "the outcome was obvious."
Well, it was. It was literally one of his campaign promises, after all. If the FOP endorsed him out of an expectation he'd violate his campaign promises, that's on them.
It's funny because it's true.
Its when people vote for candidates or policies that promise to hurt others, and then are shocked that they get hurt as well.
Yes, me too!!! I am SHOCKED, utterly SHOCKED, when I find out that what is good for the goose, is good for the gander!
(I thought that Dear Leader had OUTLAWED karma; WTF?)
The MAGAs are not immune. It won't take long before Trump hurts them too.
He had the support of a many in the Hispanic community, and of others who did immigration the right way. Or at least that's what they say.
Now he says millions of their kids should never have been citizens in the first place.
Why did you bite my kid in the face?
"If you have selfish ignorant citizens, you're gonna have selfish ignorant leaders ......besides, if you vote, you have no right to complain." George carlin.
Ban Public Sector Unions!
Do you think this will be the very last January 6 thread?
Not a chance.
Good. Let extreme far left neo Marxist democrats obsess over J6 forever. That will push them back on the fringe.
By Sullum or just Reason in general? Either way, no.
Everyone calm down... Sullum is in a fit of contortions... don't try to move him, and preferably, give him something to bite down on. Back off, give him air.
Trump was endorsed by police unions, an institution that's central to most municipalities inability to hold police accountable. Now the Unions are upset that he pardoned a bunch of people who were railroaded by the justice system, and the police unions---who are central to municipalities inability to hold police accountable are upset... and Sullum is spasming between the impossible position in which he's found himself. Give it 25 more articles and he'll find his center.
I say again, Trump should legalize 14 yr old's on the pole and ENB's head will explode.
Yeah, we should keep things in proportion.
Trump pardoned January 6 rioters, but the progressives were serious about defunding the police.
And people like Sullum were hellbent on demanding zero consequences for antifa and the BLM rioters and secessionists.
Did he buy into the whole uNmArKeD vAnS narrative?
Anyone still serving time for any January 6th related activities at the capitol were certainly over prosecuted. It's time to put that ugly incident in the rear-view mirror!
Last I heard, there were still, four years later, people being held in jail, who had never been brought to trial - and weren’t being released, despite Trump’s pardon. My guess is that the jailers didn’t think that it applied to them, because they had just been languishing in jail for years, but hadn’t been tried yet. Adding insult to injury, at least one had the crap beat out of him for requesting relief.
Yet another TDS rant by Sullum.
>99% of the 1,500 arrested/prosecuted/convicted/incarcerated Jan 6 protesters harmed nobody, nor any property. But unlike Trump, Biden's corrupt DOJ prosecuted and persecuted these innocent people simply because they supported Trump.
Meanwhile, I haven't heard the FOP (or any Trump haters) criticize the deceitful Capitol Police officer who murdered Ashli Babbitt on Jan 6,
Jacob Sullum should repeat her name.....Ashli Babbitt, over and over until he gets it!
Note that Capital police Lt Byrd, who killed her, was pardoned by Biden in his last week in office. Why would he have been pardoned for it, if he had actually used justifiable lethal force against her? She was unarmed, and apparently half his size. He had nonlethal means of control immediately available to him, as well as backup from a bunch of other Capital Police with him.
Crooked Joe may have pardoned him but we won't.
Biden during election: I would never pardon my son. The integrity of the justice system is too precious!
Media: Such decency!
Biden after election: Fuck that shit, I'mma padon all these shits!
***
Trump during election: Sheeit, Neegro, I'mma pardon all these shits, day one!
Voters on election day: America, fuck yeah! TRUMP!
Trump day 1 (and two): You get a pardon, and you get a pardon and you get a pardon!
Pardon me boy, is that the shat you knew you'd do too?
Are we forgetting that Democrats stormed the Capitol TWICE in the 2010s, in one case threatening a sitting Senator with violence TO HIS FACE (J6 protestors never got near any polticians) and yet they walked out with a slap on the wrist, not years in the gulag without bail or even arraignment?
Or when in 2020 the Orangeman was driven into the bunker when the Democrat rioters tried to storm the WHITE HOUSE ??
Or is that all just (D)ifferent?
You know the saying. A dozen wrongs by the Democrats don't make a... wrong.
JS;dr
Yeah man... Those videos sure do show 1,500 people breaking a window. Right, right? /s
"Allowing those convicted of these crimes to be released early diminishes accountability and devalues the sacrifices made by courageous law enforcement officers and their families."
Accountability for thee but not for me. The only person actually killed during the Capitol riot was an unarmed veteran in a crowd of people shot unnecessarily by a Capitol police officer who was also not held accountable. There's a LOT of unaccountability going around lately, so I think this is just sour grapes. But by all means hold our elected officials accountable for weaponizing the law for political purposes.
And one of the instigations of the riot was the killing of Ashli Babbitt, shot and killed, with no credible legal justification, by a Capital Police Lieutenant. The only two people who died that day as a direct result of the concentration, were two women, both at the hands of Nancy Pelosi’s Capital Police.
Murdered....
Watching Jacob malding is amusing
Now imagine if those who destroyed the records of the January 6th committee were pardoned.
This is nauseatingly dishonest equivalency game. There's no parallel between a murderer to knowingly killed 2 FBI agents and J6 rioters - or even BLM rioters. Its apples and plastic.
According to Sullum's logic, Trump pardoning Ulbricht is some conflict of interest, because he pardoned a drug dealer who was cause celebre in the center right. And (GASP) he was white too!
Do you have any proof that J6ers who assaulted police are any particular threat to society or police officers? Were they known antisemites who embraced violence against cops? Did their violence go beyond one day of outrage resulting from what they saw as years of government witch hunt on Trump? Were any of them vital cogs in our economy or parents to young kids and granting them clemency is for the good of the nation?
I'm just asking questions Reason will ask once Trump starts deporting illegals who assault police officers while they protest government injustice. No one's under any illusion that Sullum's newfound reverence of police officers and their opinions on violence committed against them will survive such scenario.
"There's no parallel between a murderer to knowingly killed 2 FBI agents and J6 rioters - or even BLM rioters."
Yeahnope. When people are actively trying to set on fire an occupied building, that's fairly parallel to knowing murder. In fact, they did kill at least one of the dozens dead by arson, it just didn't get a lot of media coverage because his body wasn't found until they were cleaning up the ruins.
Trump should not have given blanket pardons. He and his team should've reviewed each case individually. Certainly the folks video'd clubbing police officers and who were convicted can serve whatever time is typical for such a case.
Sullum's comparison conveniently and dishonestly neglects to compare the gravity of the crimes. Not only did Peltier kill two FBI agents, but the manner of the killings deserved the death penalty. After the agents were shot and disabled but still alive, Peltier approached and killed each one from point-blank range.
And finally, fuck the FOP. Whenever a cop is guilty of violating a citizen's rights, no matter how outrageous the violation, the FOP is there to defend the bad cop. The FOP's real mission is to enable and defend bad cops. If Trump betrayed the FOP, good for him.
I agree with this. Blanket pardons for everyone regardless of the severity of their crimes, is not 'justice', it is a signal that loyalty to Trump is more important than justice.
loyalty to Trump is more important than justice.
Well, yeah. He's not president. He's king.
Funny, you have nothing to say about Biden’s pardons. Of course, those are (D)ifferent.
I noticed dementia Joe pardoned his own crime family.
"Trump should not have given blanket pardons. He and his team should've reviewed each case individually. Certainly the folks video'd clubbing police officers and who were convicted can serve whatever time is typical for such a case."\
Cite missing. Is this the weaponize fire extinguisher? The "pipe-bomb"? Or simply more bullshit?
That was what everyone expected. Then Biden pardoned everyone involved in the entire thing on his side, from the members of Congress (Schiff, Cheney, etc), to the Capital Police Lieutenant who gunned down the unarmed Ashli Babbitt. And the die was cast, and Trump was essentially forced into a blanket pardon. The bulk of the J6 defendants were guilty of no more than being the wrong place, at the wrong time. There were J6 defendants who hadn’t even entered the Capital that day. And Biden pardoned the people who had been intimately involved in setting it all up and pulling it off, including the high ranking Capital Police Officer who had shot and killed Ashli Babbitt, who probably should have been tried for at least 2nd Degree Murder.
JS;dr
JS:
TDS-addled steaming pile of shit who should fuck off and die as a result of a barb-wire-wrapped broomstick rammed up his ass.
He said he would do it were they not paying attention?
Hot tip for the F.O.P: Trump isn't interested in watching your 6, he's only interested in the if and how of you watching his. But think about it. The vast majority of the public values law enforcement, wants more of it and better, and never bought into the defunding myth. So it may be a matter of reconsidering who it is, exactly, you want to serve and protect. If it turns out to be us, then we will back you and help you do your job to the best of your abilities.
I'm not sure how credible World Net Daily is, but this story should illustrate the problem with Police (and Corrections) unions
https://www.wnd.com/2025/01/they-moved-me-here-for-no-apparent-reason-pardoned-jan-6-prisoners-stranded-with-no-id-penniless/
Basically the J6 people are still being held in some cases, and others were transferred all over the country just before Trump went into office and now stranded.
Also I would think libertarians should support Peltier. Read up on the whole situation.
You had a reservation basically taken over by one faction of American Indians, who murdered people who opposed him (and had a private militia literally called GOON) that the FBI was in cahoots with, then you had AIM come in (including Peltier) to fight back.
You're confusing libertarianism with anarchism. A common mistake.
I'm just saying, between Joe's future pardons and Donald's partisan ones, I think we have the argument that anyone in jail just stays there and the President gets no say in it.
And why weren’t Biden’s pardons just as partisan, if not more so? Was it just because Trump’s J6 pardons were for a purely politics prosecution of most, if not all, of the J6 Defendants? Or because Biden’s pardons were for people who had committed obviously illegal acts?
Biden pardoned real criminals. Byrd, Fauci, Chaney, Schiff, his own son.
Very much this: "Trump's otherwise puzzling incoherence on criminal justice and drug policy is understandable only if you recognize that his self-interest overrides any principles he claims to support. "
And the Trumpsters' backing and defending of Trump is understandable when you recognise that supporting Trump overrides any principles they have claimed to support.
What do they think about Biden's pardons?
You know, the difference between some people who tussled with cops and pardoning a dude who murdered two of them.
Oh, boo hoo for the cops. You want to talk authoritarian, let's start with them. Cops are those who couldn't pass the Brownshirt entrance exam. Funny how 'reason' flip-flops on cops depending upon the narrative they're pushing that day -- qualified immunity bad, killing four Trump supporters on January 6 OK.
Ross Ulbricht didn't deal any drugs. He ran a site that drug dealers were using.
If this is all they have to whine about they might as well just STFHU.
Nobody cares.
The cops are going to have to deal with it. Unfortunately, most of them are pretty stupid anyway so it's unreasonable to believe you can reason with any of them. Like so many Americans, they've been brainwashed.
The cops union needs to be disbanded. People collecting pay from the taxpayers have no business being unionized.
Government workers, Postal employees, public school teachers and cops should not be allowed a union.
Sorry 'bout your damn luck, FOP boys. People who try to pet wolves get bitten, and people who trust conmen get conned.
Many cops no doubt disagree but they can't say so.
It is you, the reporters, that serve as their loudspeaker. How about you go talk to the thousands who agree with Trump