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TikTok

State-Run TikTok Coming Soon?

Not if Rand Paul and Ro Khanna can help it.

Elizabeth Nolan Brown | 1.21.2025 11:30 AM

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President Donald Trump was TikTok's original political antagonist. Now he's positioned himself as the beleaguered video app's savior. In a Day 1 executive order, Trump declared that a law effectively banning TikTok should not be enforced.

This is good news for TikTok and its users—for now, at least. But it might not be good for constitutional order broadly, to the extent that it represents a president declaring a law passed by Congress to be impotent simply because he says so.

It could ultimately be bad for free speech, too, given Trump's ideas about how to proceed from here. On Truth Social and in the Oval Office, he's been floating the idea of giving the U.S. government partial ownership of TikTok.

Perhaps the best hope for resolving this mess in a democratic manner is a new bill being proposed by Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul. "They don't ban speech to protect you. They ban speech to control you," Paul posted to X. "That's why today, I'm introducing a bipartisan, bicameral bill to repeal the TikTok ban."

A companion to Paul's "Repeal the TikTok Ban Act" was introduced in the House of Representatives by California Democratic Rep. Ro Khanna.

The bills would repeal the full Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act, which goes far beyond TikTok. The act granted the president the right to issue bans on apps associated with "foreign adversary" companies.

In addition to granting this power broadly, the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act specifically called out TikTok and its parent company ByteDance. It gave ByteDance until January 19, 2025, to divest of TikTok or face a ban.

TikTok and its users appealed to the courts, eventually elevating the matter to the U.S. Supreme Court. Last Friday, the Court rejected their pleas to stop the ban or divest process from playing out.

As of January 18, app stores had removed TikTok, and the TikTok app and website displayed the message: "A law banning TikTok has been enacted in the U.S. Unfortunately, that means you can't use TikTok for now."

Today, the app is still missing from the Apple App Store and the Google Play store.

But it's business as usual on the TikTok website and app today.

"In agreement with our service providers, TikTok is in the process of restoring service," the company said in a statement posted to X. "We thank President Trump for providing the necessary clarity and assurance to our service providers that they will face no penalties providing TikTok….It's a strong stand for the First Amendment and against arbitrary censorship."

Trump's order, issued yesterday, tells the Department of Justice not to enforce the TikTok ban for 75 days. It also tells state officials that enforcing it would be "an encroachment on the powers of the Executive."

But… can Trump legally do this? Executive orders "can't just override Congress, but Trump is hoping the companies (Oracle, Apple, etc.) take his word and defy the law," suggested Washington Post tech reporter Drew Harwell. Meanwhile, law professor and legal blogger Eugene Volokh describes the order as simply "the exercise of the Executive Branch's enforcement discretion." (Though Volokh also notes that he "can't speak to whether there are any loopholes here, or other matters that might cause unintended consequences.")

So, is this a mere matter of enforcement discretion? Or an attempt to declare a law passed by Congress and signed by a predecessor to be void?

The fact that Trump is attempting to stop states from enforcing it, too, suggests at least some overstepping of authority. And this is troublesome. As bad as the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act is, stopping it shouldn't be cause for violating traditional democratic processes or condoning an expansion of executive reach.

This wouldn't be the first time Trump has issued an overreaching executive order regarding TikTok, of course. Last time he was in office, Trump tried to use executive power to effectively ban the app. Federal courts had to step in and block implementation of Trump's original TikTok order.

In any event, the worst may be yet to come.

Trump's new TikTok order doesn't mention nationalizing the app, thank goodness. But on Truth Social on Saturday, Trump suggested "a joint venture between the current owners and/or new owners whereby the U.S. gets a 50% ownership in a joint venture set up between the U.S. and whichever purchase we so choose."

And "speaking to reporters in the Oval Office, Trump reiterated his desire to see the company sold off through a 'joint venture' between the United States and TikTok's current owners, though his precise plans remain unclear and fluid," The Washington Post reported yesterday. "Trump suggested the United States could get half of TikTok's value for negotiating and approving the deal, speculating that the app could fetch up to $1 trillion." Trump also suggested that in such a scenario, the U.S. government "polices" the app.

This could just be Trump bluster. And it's unclear how much control over the app that Trump envisions American authorities having. Nonetheless, the underlying idea is still unsettling.

Political complaints about TikTok have centered on fear that Chinese authorities could access U.S. user data and/or be able to influence the TikTok algorithm. It's always been a bit unclear how your average user would be threatened or deeply impacted by any of this. But putting this power into the hands of the U.S. government would be a different story. That leaves much more room for direct abuses of authority and invites attempts at information control on subjects much closer to American hearts.

I don't want to see TikTok banned. I'm disturbed by the very fact that so many lawmakers voted for the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act in the first place, and I'm disturbed that the Supreme Court upheld its TikTok provisions. Both of these developments bode badly for free speech. But if Trump's solution is to first expand executive power to stop the ban and then to nationalize TikTok, we're looking at an even worse situation for civil liberties and the First Amendment.

No matter what informational threat China may pose, we're worse off if U.S. authorities can force a foreign tech company to give over control to our own government or be banned.

As Paul noted in introducing his Repeal the TikTok Ban Act: "The right to free speech doesn't come with exceptions—not for apps, not for ideas, not for politicians who think they know better than you."

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Elizabeth Nolan Brown is a senior editor at Reason.

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  1. Ken Shultz   4 months ago

    My wishful thinking is that Trump is trying to get a cash payment for the sale of TikTok. When Trump was pushing to sell TikTok to Oracle and Walmart during his first term, he made the same demand. It wasn't that he wanted the U.S. government to own TikTok in the future. It's that if he was going to auction off TikTok to a buyer at a fire sale price, then the U.S. taxpayer should benefit from that sale. Again, this is wishful thinking on my part at this point, but based on things he's advocated in the past, he may just be insisting that the U.S. Treasury receives 50% of the sale proceeds when TikTok is sold.

    1. Ken Shultz   4 months ago

      P.S. I am an enthusiastic supporter of a constitutional bill that mandates that TikTok be sold to an entity that isn't effectively controlled by a hostile adversary bent on using the kind of data TikTok collects in a potential upcoming conflict with the United States. I am also entirely opposed to the U.S. government owning a piece of TikTok.

      I suppose someone could oppose the U.S. government collecting our data via the NSA and still support the Chinese Communist Party collecting our data via TikTok, too. I'm just not sure how they square that circle without self-contradiction, but . . . maybe it's possible in some way that I don't understand.

      1. Wizard4169   4 months ago

        The idea that TikTok is funneling information to the Chinese government that they couldn't easily get elsewhere is just silly. The law was based on hysteria and a shameful abdication by SCOTUS. Trump's delay is obviously nothing but an attempted shakedown, whether it ends with some government stake or just a sale at knock-down prices to a politically favored buyer.

    2. mad.casual   4 months ago

      It's that if he was going to auction off TikTok to a buyer at a fire sale price, then the U.S. taxpayer should benefit from that sale. Again, this is wishful thinking on my part at this point, but based on things he's advocated in the past, he may just be insisting that the U.S. Treasury receives 50% of the sale proceeds when TikTok is sold.

      How is it both wishful thinking and based on things he's advocated in the past.

      Again, people keep interpretting "the US" to "the US government" and fabricating "nationalize" out of thin air.

      Given your own points about his past performance which, admittedly, is not a defintiive indicator of future gains, it would seem that the US Government auctioning off the assets and collection some of the proceeds is more run of the mill speculation and the idea that Trump will hire a bunch of TikTok employees and put them on the federal payroll to be fantastically wishful thinking.

      1. Ken Shultz   4 months ago

        "How is it both wishful thinking and based on things he's advocated in the past."

        It's called an educated guess. It's not completely uninformed, but it isn't completely baked either. We'll have to wait and see.

        If Trump does keep an ownership stake for the government, that will be awful. And taking his comments at face value, it seems like that's what he means to do.

        I forget who it was that said Trump's supporters take him seriously without taking him literally, and Trump's critics take him literally without taking him seriously. I'm not pro-Trump per se, but I don't have TDS--so I'm trying to take it down the middle. I also know that Trump sometimes says outrageous things that turn out to be mole hills--on purpose. The media can only focus on one outrageous headline at a time. Sometimes his handwaving really is meant to distract the media.

  2. Eeyore   4 months ago

    State owned social media is such a bad idea.

  3. Ken Shultz   4 months ago

    +1

  4. Roberta   4 months ago

    ...

    we're worse off if U.S. authorities can force a foreign tech company to give over control to our own government or be banned.

    Worse off than if US authorities can just ban it outright but with no alternative choice, as the Supreme Court just decided 9-0?

    Libertarians seem to lose their minds when choices are presented. Like that Reason article some years back where someone said, after the smoke cleared, that he'd've been better off to have been given no choice to satisfy a local board in building something, but rather to have been forbidden outright.

    1. Ken Shultz   4 months ago

      That bill was duly passed by a majority of both the House and the Senate, and it cleared the Supreme Court with a unanimous verdict because it had no First Amendment implications whatsoever.

      No, the Rosenbergs did not have a First Amendment right to transmit our nuclear weapons designs to the USSR. No, bank robbers don't have a First Amendment right to pass a note to a teller saying that he has a bomb.

      And these are not exceptions to the rule. The First Amendment never protected violating other peoples' rights with our speech any more than the Second Amendment protected violating other people's rights with a gun.

      1. Roberta   4 months ago

        OK, so what has that to do with my comment?

        1. Ken Shultz   4 months ago

          I was agreeing with you about that statement . . . if for other reasons.

          "we're worse off if U.S. authorities can force a foreign tech company to give over control to our own government or be banned."

          In addition, the bill didn't force TikTok to give control to our government. In fact, there's an argument to be made that TikTok was under the control of the Chinese government. Even IF IF IF the U.S. government ends up with a piece of it, that might be better than having our data accessed and our security undermined by the Chinese Communist Party.

          I'd also add that the CEO of TikTok appears to be begging Trump for help here. This isn't necessarily something that Trump is imposing on the poor CEO of TikTok.

          It isn't the U.S. government or Trump that's inhibiting a sale of TikTok. Trump is actually saving TikTok. The real issue is that Emperor Xi refuses to let TikTok sell itself to anyone without the blessing of the emperor. TikTok would rather go public, I'm sure, but Emperor Xi has been preventing Chinese companies from going public in the West for a long time now.

          So, yeah, even IF IF IF TikTok ends up owned by the U.S. government, I don't know that this is the worse than the way it is now, especially if we see TikTok as a serious threat to national security. All that being said, the U.S. government has no business owning TikTok going forward.

      2. mad.casual   4 months ago

        No, the Rosenbergs did not have a First Amendment right to transmit our nuclear weapons designs to the USSR. No, bank robbers don't have a First Amendment right to pass a note to a teller saying that he has a bomb.

        And these are not exceptions to the rule. The First Amendment never protected violating other peoples' rights with our speech any more than the Second Amendment protected violating other people's rights with a gun.

        It's ENB. The Constitution has exactly 2 rights: Free Speech and "Women's Reproductive Care", and both are absolute. Anything is protected as long as you can reason it into being one or both of those rights, even if it contradicts with previous reasoning on the matter and anything that can be reasoned as even remotely chilling either one through arbitrarily removed levels of influence, a la global warming, is an infringement. Even if that also contradicts previous reasoning on the subject.

    2. mad.casual   4 months ago

      Worse off than if US authorities can just ban it outright but with no alternative choice, as the Supreme Court just decided 9-0?

      The whole issue, after SCOTUS ruled that the POTUS can't block people on Twitter but that Twitter can block POTUS, feels like an insane moral panic.

      In (un?)related news: A Texas judge blocked the sale of Infowars to The Onion and Sandy Hook families after the bankruptcy trustee accepted their offer below half the price of what other companies, aligned with Jones, were offering. AFAICT, Reason hasn't breathed a word of the impropriety and/or speech implications surrounding this case.

  5. Roberta   4 months ago

    How is this discretion any different from how federal bans on marijuana are left unenforced?

  6. Ken Shultz   4 months ago

    "Again, this is wishful thinking on my part at this point, but based on things he's advocated in the past, he may just be insisting that the U.S. Treasury receives 50% of the sale proceeds when TikTok is sold."

    To add to my speculation here, if TikTok is sold to Musk, which is something Emperor Xi is open to, how do you justify that sale to the general public? If the U.S. taxpayers were to receive 50% of the sale price paid to the U.S. treasury, that spoonful of sugar might help the medicine go down.

    Q: How many progressives would rather see TikTok disappear than see it sold to Musk?

    A: It was a trick question. Nobody cares what progressives want anymore.

  7. VinniUSMC   4 months ago

    TikTok ban? Don't care.
    TikTok non-enforcement. Not great, but business as usual, meh.
    TikTok owned by US Government? No.
    TikTok owned by Musk? Absolutely hilarious. Lefties are already crying because now TikTok is tainted by Orange Hitler "saving TikTok".

    Get all of the Leftists over to California. Their tears are probably enough to drown any fires for the next 4 years.

  8. Spiritus Mundi   4 months ago

    Not surprised to see ENB already freaking out. I have yet to see Trump say the government should own tiktok.

    I don't want to see TikTok banned.

    Then why are you clutching your pearls over Trump stopping states from banning it?

    The fact that Trump is attempting to stop states from enforcing it, too, suggests at least some overstepping of authority.

    1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   4 months ago

      Apparently this is the new Journolist talking point.

      1. Spiritus Mundi   4 months ago

        Every article has to have Trump is an authoritarian filter. Glad the good old days are back.

  9. Stupid Government Tricks   4 months ago

    It's exactly the same as prosecutorial discretion, choosing which cases to prosecute and how.

    a president declaring a law passed by Congress to be impotent simply because he says so.

    Get rid of government prosecutors. Switch to victim prosecution only, and yes, of course that includes guardians.

    1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   4 months ago

      And it isn't what even happened. The passed law allows for the president to have a 90 day review before the law takes effect. That's what Trump did.

      ENB remains ignorant.

      1. Rossami   4 months ago

        In fairness, that's not what Trump did. The law does allow for a 90 day review - what Trump did was similar but not precisely what the law calls for.

        Granted, that's a quibble. And maybe even a legally meaningless quibble because it's not clear who even theoretically could have standing to sue over the difference...

  10. Rick James   4 months ago

    Great, we have State-run Facebook, state-run Youtube, we used to have state-run twitter, and now we get state-run Tik Tok? When will it end?

  11. Rick James   4 months ago

    The fact that Trump is attempting to stop states from enforcing it, too, suggests at least some overstepping of authority. And this is troublesome. As bad as the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act is, stopping it shouldn't be cause for violating traditional democratic processes or condoning an expansion of executive reach.

    Wait, is this Reason doing another "don't ban the ban" thing?

    1. DesigNate   4 months ago

      That’s what it seems like to me.

  12. Bubba Jones   4 months ago

    Giving China the option to filter the information received by 1/2 the US population is such an obviously horrible idea.

    There's a reason China bans foreign information sources. They recognize the power.

  13. VinniUSMC   4 months ago

    State-Run TikTok Coming Soon?

    No.

    Any other stupid questions you need answered?

  14. TrickyVic (old school)   4 months ago

    ""President Donald Trump was TikTok's original political antagonist. Now he's positioned himself as the beleaguered video app's savior.""

    6D chess?

  15. Rossami   4 months ago

    You're just now realizing that it's "not good for constitutional order" for a president to declare "a law passed by Congress to be impotent simply because he says so"? Did you raise this complaint during the enforcement debates about DACA, the marijuana wars or any of the many, many executive branch inactions going all the way back to Thomas Jefferson?

    The "constitutional order" has withstood this discretion for two centuries and counting. I think it unlikely that this little TikTok dispute will be what puts us over the edge.

  16. Your Therapist   4 months ago

    The harder we try to be more unlike China the more we become like them.

  17. Fist of Etiquette   4 months ago

    IS THIS WHERE WE ARE AS AMERICANS? WORRYING ABOUT THE TICKTOCKS THE KIDS ARE INTO?

    How about we get the American eggheads* together to code a HotDog app? Or an AmericanPie app? Or a Chevrolet app? That's my vision for America.

    *Some of those can be Krauts we stole after the war.

    1. Your Therapist   4 months ago

      Can’t use the krauts, they’re too busy miniaturizing electromagnetic anti gravitational powered craft with which we can spy on our own military.

    2. mad.casual   4 months ago

      Or a Chevrolet app?

      An app that runs as well as the Obamacare web page?

  18. TJJ2000   4 months ago

    Republican Sen. Rand Paul. "They don't ban speech to protect you. They ban speech to control you," Paul posted to X. "That's why today, I'm introducing a bipartisan, bicameral bill to repeal the TikTok ban."

    Trump would be very wise to heed to Massie and Paul.
    It's sickening that Congress went along with the previous Act.
    It's hopeful to see more [R]s vote against it than [D]s.

  19. Supply Side   4 months ago

    Predilection towards socialism is strong with the former and now current President.

  20. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 months ago

    Odds that ENB opened a RedNote account?

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