Hunter Biden's Pardon Features Several Shades of Hypocrisy, Including the Gun Policy Implications
Joe Biden says his son did not deserve prison for violating firearm laws that the president vigorously defends and has made more severe.

President Joe Biden's explanation of the pardon he granted his son on Sunday night is dishonest, hypocritical, and evasive in several ways. He reneged on his repeated promises not to intervene in the federal gun and tax cases against Hunter Biden. Those promises included an explicit commitment to refrain from doing what the president ultimately did anyway. His justification—that his son was "singled out" for political reasons—bears more than a passing resemblance to President-elect Donald Trump's reflexive complaint that every civil and criminal case against him was invalid for similar reasons.
The pardon undermines the elder Biden's high-minded defense of the Justice Department's independence, which he and other Democrats have frequently described as a crucial safeguard against the abuses of self-interested politicians like Trump. Biden's defense of that turnaround also glides over his persistent support for the arbitrary, constitutionally dubious gun laws that his son violated, which the president has portrayed as crucial to preventing violence and promoting public safety.
Last June, a federal jury convicted Hunter Biden of three firearm felonies related to his 2018 purchase of a revolver, which he was prohibited from owning because he was a crack cocaine user at the time. In September, Biden pleaded guilty to nine tax offenses, including three felonies. His father does not claim Hunter Biden was innocent of those charges. Instead, he claims that federal prosecutors treated Hunter more severely than they would have treated a defendant who was not the president's son.
Hunter Biden earned a fortune by trading on his father's name, then repeatedly failed to pay taxes on that income. No biggie, the president says, since "those who were late paying their taxes because of serious addictions, but paid them back subsequently with interest and penalties, are typically given noncriminal resolutions."
The elder Biden also argues that the gun case was highly unusual. "Without aggravating factors like use in a crime, multiple purchases, or buying a weapon as a straw purchaser," he says, "people are almost never brought to trial on felony charges solely for how they filled out a gun form."
The president says he would have been happy with the resolution that his son's lawyers reached with federal prosecutors last year. Under that arrangement, which collapsed amid objections by a federal judge, Hunter Biden would have pleaded guilty to two tax misdemeanors, and the government would have recommended a sentence of probation. Prosecutors also agreed to drop the gun case once Biden completed a pretrial diversion program.
After that deal fell apart and subsequent negotiations were unsuccessful, Biden faced additional charges in both cases. That is what typically happens when a defendant exercises his Sixth Amendment right to trial by jury, and it illustrated the enormous power that prosecutors have to coerce guilty pleas.
A single charge of illegal gun possession under 18 USC 922(g)(3) became three charges, including two based on "how [Hunter] filled out a gun form." One count alleged a violation of 18 USC 922(a)(6), which applies to someone who knowingly makes a false statement in connection with a firearm transaction—in this case, by denying illegal drug use. The other new count, based on the same underlying conduct, involved 18 USC 924(a)(1)(A), which applies to someone who "knowingly makes any false statement or representation with respect to the information" that a federally licensed dealer is required to record. The upshot was that Biden faced a maximum prison sentence of 25 years, quite a jump from zero time behind bars under the nixed diversion agreement.
In the tax case, two misdemeanors became three felonies and six misdemeanors, all of which were covered by Biden's guilty plea. "There was no plea agreement," the Justice Department noted. As a result, the probation sentence that the government was prepared to accept in 2023 became a potential prison sentence of up to 17 years.
Biden's actual sentences probably would have been much shorter than the maximums. But the dramatic escalation in potential penalties epitomized the "trial penalty" that helps explain why 97 percent of federal felony convictions are based on guilty pleas rather than proof beyond a reasonable doubt in a criminal court.
That much was par for the course. Yet President Biden argues that the cases would not have been prosecuted to begin with but for the machinations of Republican legislators. "It is clear that Hunter was treated differently," he says. "The charges in his cases came about only after several of my political opponents in Congress instigated them to attack me and oppose my election."
Those "political opponents," of course, had no power to bring criminal charges against Hunter Biden. That decision was made by David C. Weiss, who served as the acting U.S. attorney for Delaware during the Trump administration and kept that position after Joe Biden took office. In August 2023, Biden's attorney general, Merrick Garland, appointed Weiss as a special counsel charged with overseeing both cases against Hunter Biden.
That designation was aimed at preserving the prosecutorial independence that Joe Biden was keen to defend until last night, and Weiss' willingness to let Hunter Biden avoid incarceration belies any notion that he had it in for the president's son. In fact, that "sweetheart deal" provoked vigorous objections from Republicans who complained that Hunter Biden had benefited from political favoritism—the opposite of what his father claims.
Joe Biden views that criticism as further interference with the criminal justice system. "A carefully negotiated plea deal, agreed to by the Department of Justice, unraveled in the courtroom—with a number of my political opponents in Congress taking credit for bringing political pressure on the process," he says. "Had the plea deal held, it would have been a fair, reasonable resolution of Hunter's cases."
That gloss elides U.S. District Judge Maryellen Noreika's objections to the proposed resolution of the two cases. Among other things, Noreika was concerned about a lack of clarity regarding Hunter Biden's immunity from future prosecution, the interaction between the plea deal and the diversion agreement, and the highly unusual role she would have had to play in deciding whether Biden had met the terms of the latter. The president's take also ignores the government's openness to negotiating another plea agreement, albeit on terms that Biden deemed unacceptable.
It is possible that, as the president suggests, Weiss took to heart the criticism of the initial plea deal and was determined to show that he was not giving Hunter Biden special treatment. At the same time, the ultimate decision to throw the book at Biden was not at all unusual. In the rare cases where federal defendants insist on a trial, they can expect to be punished for that decision. That is undeniably a problem, but it is by no means a problem unique to Hunter Biden.
The same is true of another problem to which the president alludes: the haphazard, wildly uneven enforcement of the gun laws that Hunter Biden violated. Survey data suggest that millions of American gun owners are illegal drug users, meaning they are guilty of the same felony that Hunter Biden committed by possessing a firearm. If they bought their firearms from federally licensed dealers and therefore "filled out a gun form," they are also guilty of the two additional felonies that Biden committed during the same transaction by denying his drug use.
Almost none of those potential defendants ever face prosecution. From FY 2008 through FY 2017, for example, federal prosecutors filed an annual average of just 133 charges under Section 922(g)(3).
One reason such cases are rarely prosecuted is that the government generally does not know which drug users are gun owners or vice versa. But Biden publicly admitted his drug use, and his acquisition of the revolver came to light as a result of a bizarre spat with his girlfriend. In that respect, he was very unlucky.
So was Patrick Darnell Daniels Jr., a Mississippi man who had two guns and the remains of a few joints in his car when he was stopped for a traffic violation in 2022. Daniels was convicted of violating Section 922(g)(3) and sentenced to nearly four years in prison. Last year, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit overturned that conviction, deeming the prosecution inconsistent with Daniels' constitutional right to keep and bear arms.
Hunter Biden's lawyers cited that decision in arguing that the gun charges against him should be dismissed. Noreika rejected their facial challenge, but she left open the possibility that Biden could appeal his conviction by arguing that the ban on gun possession by illegal drug users was unconstitutional as applied to him.
Defending the gun charges, Weiss argued that "the Second Amendment, like the rest of the Constitution, 'protects against invasions of individual rights; it is not a suicide pact.'" He added that "Congress's legislative choice to prohibit individuals who are actively engaged in habitual illegal or compulsive narcotic use from possessing firearms falls firmly within longstanding historical traditions and accords with the Second Amendment."
Notably, Biden sided with Weiss in this constitutional dispute, which pitted the president against his own son. The Biden administration has stubbornly defended Section 922(g)(3) in one case after another, specifically arguing that cannabis consumers are so untrustworthy and dangerous that the government is justified in threatening them with prison if they dare to exercise their Second Amendment rights.
President Biden not only supports that policy; he evidently thought the penalties that his son faced for violating it were not severe enough. The Bipartisan Safer Communities Act, which Biden signed in June 2022, increased the maximum sentence for violating Section 922(g)(3) from 10 to 15 years. It also created yet another possible charge for drug users who obtain firearms, likewise punishable by up to 15 years in prison. If Hunter Biden had bought his revolver after that law took effect and was still using crack, he could have faced four felony charges with a combined maximum penalty of 45 years.
Joe Biden nevertheless argues that his son did not deserve a prison sentence for illegally obtaining a firearm. Those severe penalties, he implies, are meant for other defendants, people who actually pose a threat to public safety. That position seems inconsistent with the Biden administration's insistence that every cannabis consumer—including patients who use marijuana as a medicine with state approval—is a public menace.
In any case, Daniels got almost four years based on nothing more than his status as a gun-owning cannabis consumer. While Hunter Biden is a well-connected man who could afford top-of-the-line legal representation, Daniels is a man of much more modest means with decidedly less political influence. The contrast between their cases is not a good look for a president who periodically decries the unjust and unequal impact of marijuana prohibition.
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“Several shades of hypocrisy “ was joe Biden’s nickname in college.
His reasoning?
Demonstrating the broken behaviour of a shithole state.
When people quit at Walmart, they’re “walked out”.
I’m surprised you’re not blaming the Jews.
Do you mean why the US is a shithole state and getting worse?
At the time of the nations founding one third of the founders were members of a Jewish secret satanic society, Freemasons. Their symbols are hiding in plain sight throughout all aspects of the nation.
Today they exhibit more influence than ever.
Criminals need lies and lies need secrets.
Who chants this on their “holiest” day?
“All vows, obligations, oaths, and anathemas [curses]which we may vow, or swear, or pledge, or whereby we may be bound, from this Day of Atonement until the next we do repent. May they be deemed absolved, forgiven, annulled, and void, and made of no effect: they shall not bind us nor have any power over us. The vows shall not be reckoned vows; the obligations shall not be obligations; nor the oaths be oaths.”
You seem stable.
You really need to lay off Hunter's crack pipe.
You really do.
Misek is probably inhaling Hunter’s ‘crack pipe’ through his rectum.
Altiyan Childs exposed the evil satanic intent and spread of Freemasonry.
The video shows that this evil pyramid scheme has infiltrated and taken over the highest levels of government, media, religion and industry.
In these high level positions they control who ascends to power and what they do with it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WY1mwcUR0xU
Here Jewish leaders brag about owning and controlling freemasonry.
THE JEWISH TRIBUNE, New York, Oct. 28, 1927, Cheshvan 2, 5688, Vol. 91, No. 18: “Masonry is based on Judaism. Eliminate the teachings of Judaism from the Masonic ritual and what is left?”
LA VERITE ISRAELITE, Jewish paper 1861, IV, page 74: “The spirit of Freemasonry is the spirit of Judaism in its most fundamental beliefs; it is its ideas, its language, it is mostly its organization, the hopes which enlighten and support Israel. It’s crowning will be that wonderful prayer house of which Jerusalem will be the triumphal centre and symbol.”
LE SYMBOLISM, July, 1928: “The most important duty of the Freemason must be to glorify the Jewish Race, which has preserved the unchanged divine standard of wisdom. You must rely upon the Jewish race to dissolve all frontiers.”
AN ENCYCLOPEDIA OF FREEMASONRY,Philadelphia, 1906: “Each Lodge is and must be a symbol of the Jewish temple; each Master in the Chair, a representative of the Jewish King; and every Mason a personification of the Jewish workman.”
MANUAL OF FREEMASONRY, by Richard Carlile: “The Grand Lodge Masonry of the present day is wholly Jewish.”
THE FREEMASON, April 2, 1930, quoting Br. Rev. S. McGowan: “Freemasonry is founded on the ancient law of Israel. Israel has given birth to the moral beauty which forms the basis of Freemasonry.”
Rabbi Br. Isaac Wise, in The Israelite of America, March 8, 1866: “Masonry is a Jewish institution whose history, degrees, charges, passwords and explanations are Jewish from beginning to end.”
Benjamin Disraeli, Jew, Prime Minister of England, in The Life of Lord George Bentick: “At the head of all those secret societies, which form provisional governments, men of the Jewish race are to be found.”
LATOMIA, a German Masonic journal, Vol. 12, July 1849, Page 237: “We cannot help but greet socialism (Marxism – Communism) as an excellent comrade of Freemasonry for ennobling mankind, for helping to further human welfare. Socialism and Freemasonry, together with Communism are sprung from the same source.”
BERNARD STILLMAN, Jew, in Hebraic influences on Masonic Symbolism, 1929, quoted The Masonic News, London: “I think I have proved sufficiently that Freemasonry, as what concurs symbolism, lays entirely on a formation which is essentially Jewish.”
O.B. Good, M.A. in The Hidden Hand of Judah, 1936: “The influence of the Jewish Sanhedrin is today more powerful than ever in Freemasonry.”
JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA, 1903, Vol, 5, page 503: “The technical language, symbolism and rites of Freemasonry are full of Jewish ideas and terms … In the Scottish Rite, the dates on official documents are given according to the era and months of the Jewish calendar, and use is made of the Hebraic alphabet.”
B’NAI B’RITH MAGAZINE, Vol. 13, page 8, quoting rabbi and mason Magnin: “The B’nai B’rith are but a makeshift. Everywhere that Freemasonry can admit that it is Jewish in its nature as well as in its aims, the ordinary lodges are sufficient for the task.
The ADL (Anti-Defamation League) of B’nai B’rith is a totally Jewish controlled organization with its main goal to destroy Christianity. (Also, the B’nai B’rith form a super-Masonic lodge where no “Gentiles” are admitted.)
TRANSACTIONS OF THE JEWISH HISTORICAL SOCIETY Vol. 2, p 156: “The Coat of Arms used by the Grand Lodge of England is entirely composed of Jewish symbols. FREEMASONS WORSHIP LUCIFER!
Refuted.
Oh, and EM;dr
Fuck off and die, Nazi shit.
Nazi? That’s quite a leap without a shred of evidence.
That’s your bigoted response to everything you deny but can’t refute.
For someone who insists that all Jews are liars and their written history is largely either inaccurate or fabricated, you sure put a lot of credence into small snippets from those writings when stripping them away from any context makes them look like some kind of "evidence" to support whatever you've chosen to believe (assuming any of these "citations" are actually accurately sourced and/or translated).
The statements I referenced are clear.
If you could demonstrate that they were “out of context” you would have. You haven’t.
NIce try, narc.
You're just trying to trick me into reading more of the propaganda of your secret zionist freemason overlords.
We've all caught on to the reason why nobody on here agrees with you. Anyone who does is swept up by a Mosad tactical squad within the hour, and their entire digital footprint is expunged by the same global cabal which you're pretending to denounce as a false-flag op to trick those who might offer resistance into exposing their identities.
Meanwhile those who might try to investigate your "research" are unwittingly tricked into reading psyop propaganda designed by the sorcery division to brainwash them into becoming fully compliant and suitable for recruitment and reprogramming into zionist fanatics who pack up everything to go help expand the Jewish settlements in the West Bank.
Your cover being blown here, you might as well move on to try to run this scam on another platform since you'll have no more success here.
Oh look, the cowardly bigot admits it’s too terrified by its bogeyman to consider counter arguments.
The Mossads gonna sweep you up.
Hahaha
I thought you'd be happy that I called something you said correct.
Either the global cabal you're always ranting about doesn't exist, or you're an agent of that conspiracy performing as some kind of false flag "resistance" to gain the trust of others who might try to oppose them.
If such a conspiracy to run the world actually existed, and you're not "on the payroll", then they'd have taken you down by now. Since that hasn't happened then one of the first two possibilities must be true. The more you insist that such a cabal exists, the more you prove that you're actually a part of it yourself.
If it really is manipulating history on behalf of Jews, then I've got nothing to fear from them, and if it doesn't exist at all, then I've got nothing to fear from them. Either way, it's not a "boogeyman" to me, and I've got nothing to fear...
“ We've all caught on to the reason why nobody on here agrees with you. Anyone who does is swept up by a Mosad tactical squad within the hour”
You’re terrified to recognize that I’m telling the truth. Thats the alternative that you refuse to consider in your faulty logic.
“ You're just trying to trick me into reading more”
It’s obvious that you’re terrified of becoming informed and in your mind a target of the Israeli mossad.
That cowardly fear is why you’ve chosen bigotry.
"You’re terrified to recognize that I’m telling the truth. Thats the alternative that you refuse to consider in your faulty logic."
This claim of yours is absolutely incorrect. I've stated clearly more than once that it's possible that you're telling the "truth" (or at least that the cabal you talk about exists), that's the scenario in which you're running a "false flag" operation on behalf of that cabal to get their opponents to reveal themselves. Read 1984 by George Orwell, and pay particular attention to the character named O'Brien.
If you're actually exposing the existence of an organization with the power you claim, and aren't working on behalf of that group, then they'd have already silenced you (one way or another) long ago, and nobody on these boards would miss your nonsense in the slightest (although your user name might still occasionally get used as a punchline for a while after that).
If you're not a part of the cabal that you rant about, then your continued existence is proof that either they don't exist or that they don't have nearly the reach and influence that you appear to think they do.
“If you're actually exposing the existence of an organization with the power you claim, and aren't working on behalf of that group, then they'd have already silenced you (one way or another) long ago,”
Not necessarily. There are many many possible reasons why that wouldn’t happen and your feeble“argument “ collapses.
It’s unlikely that they’d want a long trail of bodies to lead directly back to them.
They might be counting on their useful bigots to coerce silence. As many here try to.
Etc etc etc.
Your feeble argument has been refuted.
"Not necessarily. There are many many possible reasons why that wouldn’t happen and your feeble“argument “ collapses.
It’s unlikely that they’d want a long trail of bodies to lead directly back to them."
You think that a global conspiracy which has been secretly directing the course of civilization and deliberately instigated two world wars can't hide their tracks when it comes to disappearing some nameless dipshit off the internet? Barely 50% of homicides in the US ever get solved as it is, and it hardly takes a belief that Jews run the world to think that Mossad is capable of disappearing you without leaving a trace.
If there were an organization with the capabilities of the one you imagine you're fighting, its operatives would have the ability to remove nearly any trace that you'd ever existed. The only "trail of bodies" left behind would be the ones they wanted to be found, and that list likely wouldn't include your; more likely they'd remove your birth certificate, tax/credit history, medical and dental records to the point where nobody who'd never met you in person would know you'd ever lived (meanwhile your ashes would be mixed into the charge of a 2000 lb bomb and dropped on an Iraian uranium enrichment site, or cast into a concrete block and dropped into the deepest part of the Mediterranean.
Your ridiculous imagination doesn’t change the fact that your feeble argument , that I’m either part of the conspiracy or I’d be dead, was refuted.
Get over it.
"Your ridiculous imagination doesn’t change the fact that your feeble argument , that I’m either part of the conspiracy or I’d be dead, was refuted."
Your "refuting" of a claim that I made just to troll you is that you're not part of the conspiracy because you understand their motives better than anyone else and know that they couldn't cover up a "trail of dead bodies"?
So, you're admitting to have "insider" knowledge about this supposed conspiracy which most people wouldn't imagine to be the case, and that possession of that knowledge disproves your possible association with a group which you're the only one claiming even exists?
My suggestion that you're a "false flag" for the global conspiracy was one of two possibilities that I was asserting; the other possibility being that the group doesn't exist at all. That's very different from insisting conclusively that you're a part of it for sure.
The idea that such a cabal actually exists, and has the level of power you claim it does, and that your repeated public "exposure" of that would be tolerated by a group who was capable of causing multiple global wars just as a pretext to obtain a nation for themselves is possibly more farfetched than the idea that a group who has been clandestinely manipulating the course of human history for centuries couldn't manage to conceal the existence of (or at least their own connection to) a "trail of dead bodies" numbering in the single or double digits. They've got an intelligence service with a proven history of being able to grab people off of the street and "dissapear" them, and are currently engaged in shooting war where all they'd have to do to dispose of a corpse would be to add it to the casualty count for whatever battle occurs closest to the time of the execution (they could even dress you in an IDF uniform and use your death to inflate their own side's "justification" for retribution).
Are we going to have to add "refuted" to the list of words including "logic" and "science" for which you have your own personal definition? Maybe you could save us all some time and either go a way entirely or post a link to a site including whatever dictionary you think includes the "correct" meaning of the words you're using...
“ Your "refuting" of a claim that I made just to troll you..”
You’ve admitted that you’re a troll and that I’ve refuted you.
Yes, I’m pleased with the optics.
[“ Your "refuting" of a claim that I made just to troll you..”
You’ve admitted that you’re a troll and that I’ve refuted you.
Yes, I’m pleased with the optics.]
I admitted that I did a single particular thing for the purpose of trolling. If I made a sandwich once, would that also make me a chef?
I put the word refuted into quotes to indicate that your belief to have refuted anything is as disconnected from reality as the rest of your lunacy.
What kind of fucked up funhouse mirror are you seeing these optics through that makes you happy with them? Or are you literally posting from some kind of bizarro-world?
It's almost amazing that your text doesn't display inverted or reversed with as far from reality your take on everything seems to be.
Considering how aggressively you call attention to the evils and global-dominating influence of a cabal which supposedly thrives on remaining unknown, you seem to have been subjective to an awfully small amount of being vaporized by secret space lasers, or swept off to the secret Israeli base on Mars, or just having a bomb wired into your car by the Mosad.
If the Jews had a fraction of a percent of the power you're claiming, and if any random bit of your alleged "evidence" were actually close to proving anything, it seems like it'd be awfully dangerous of such lords of the universe to not have taken you off the board years ago like swatting a bothersome mosquito.
Unless, of course, you're in on it actually blasting this noise in to the world as a false flag to draw in "like minded" individuals for the Freemasons to snatch up in the middle of the night before they're able to form any kind of meaningful resistance? Maybe like O'Brien in 1984 you even turn out to be the overseer of their final stage of "re-education" in Room 101 where their deepest fear is used to finally break them entirely?
Or you could recognize that you can’t refute anything that I said.
I can't refute the claim that the events in Star Wars actually happened in a Galaxy Far Far Away, either. That doesn't prove that the movies are somehow a documentary.
I don't have information on hand to refute any particular sighting of Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster, or the Abominable Snowman. That doesn't prove the existence of any of those entities.
Every bit of "proof" you've ever posted is somewhere between a citation of a subjective opinion (which you're apparently unable to tell is different from objective proof), or some random piece of trivia which might at best be countable as a crumb of circumstantial data but could just be personal communication between two individuals with little or no bearing on anything.
Then there's the weird extrapolations where you insist that the lack of certain kinds of data (such as demanding use of DNA technology that didn't exist 80 years ago, and which the modern tech couldn't possibly produce any conclusive data 80 years later) that could never possibly be obtained somehow proves that tens of thousands of first-hand witnesses must have all been telling the same lies; what you call "properly applied" logic is literally a defined fallacy in which absence of evidence is confused for evidence of absence.
If you're for real, you are demonstrably too stupid (or maybe brainwashed?) to comprehend the ways in which your own "proof" refutes itself, or the ways in which your entire premise is constructed to be based on claims which are so detatched from objective fact that they can't be "refuted" not because they're true or false, but because there's no substance within them which could be either substantiated or refuted.
The mere fact that you keep posting is a strong piece of circumstantial evidence to indicate that either you're a paranoid lunatic tilting at windmills, or that you're a false flag psyop being run by the very global conspiracy you're claiming to expose,
I’ve made clear statements supported by irrefutable logic and science.
If they weren’t and you were even a halfwit you could at least refute the logic and science I cite as proof. But you haven’t .
As a scaredy bigot, terrified that the mossad will sweep you up for even considering it, you never will.
"I’ve made clear statements supported by irrefutable logic and science."
The difference between the actual meaning of "logic and science" and your bizarro-world definition of those terms is all that's needed to refute anything that you think might be supported on those grounds.
Every aspect of what you call "properly applied" logic can be found on a list of defined logical fallacies, and your entire "scientific proof" claim is based on your insistence that the lack of data which could never have been obtained (when the remains hadn't yet decomposed, the DNA tech didn't exist and now that the tech is there the tissues/ashes that would need to have been sampled have been decomposing for 80 years). That in and of itself is a logical fallacy; absence of evidence (especially when that "evidence" is of a kind that's demanded based on it being impossible to find) does not equate to evidence of absence.
"If they weren’t and you were even a halfwit you could at least refute the logic and science I cite as proof. But you haven’t ."
If you were a halfwit, the 400% increase in your mental capacity might allow you to see how detached from actual logic and science your version of those concepts actually are.
“Every aspect of what you call "properly applied" logic can be found on a list of defined logical fallacies,”
Sooo, why have you never demonstrated this? A clear description of what you think you’re refuting and a link is all you need.
Similarly you haven’t refuted any of my scientific proof. Same thing, description, link.
Why can’t you? Because you’re lying and terrified to recognize that I’m speaking the truth.
[“Every aspect of what you call "properly applied" logic can be found on a list of defined logical fallacies,”
Sooo, why have you never demonstrated this? A clear description of what you think you’re refuting and a link is all you need.]
Even a halfwit should be able to enter the term "logical fallacies" into literally any search engine, and read any of the first 25 links which come up. Since that's apparently something which exceeds your own personal capability, here's a link to one of the thousands of sites from which anyone with internet access could learn more about the actual rules of logic than you'll ever be able to comprehend:
http://www.grammarly.com/blog/rhetorical-devices/logical-fallacies/
On these boards, you most commonly engage in the fallacies numbered 1, 2, 7, 10, and 15 as they're listed on the site.
Fallacy number 10, the "Appeal to Ignorance" also covers most of what you pretend amounts to "scientific proof".
Nobody refutes your "scientific proof" because you've never offered any actual proof to be refuted, merely a repeated claim that the absence of a specific kind of forensic evidence (a kind which whoever writes your script likely chose because it's something that's literally impossible to actually produce due to the techniques and timelines involved) amounts to proof that particular events didn't happen. Nobody can refute the absence of data that can't be produced in any meaningful state, but that doesn't matter because the absence of evidence does not logically equate to proof of absence.
If I were to make the claim that the lack of a documented paternity test result is proof that Jesus Christ is not the "son of god", you can't refute my claim that there's never been such a test run by any lab since the invention of paternity testing (where would anyone get the sample from God for use in such a test?). If we were then to apply the nonsense that you call "properly applied logic", then the absence of such a test result would conclusively disprove the central belief of what you've referred to as "the Religion of Truth". Under the actual rules of logic, the lack of that test isn't conclusive proof of anything other than that such a test was never performed. If you choose to believe that a particular person who lived and died thousands of years ago had a particular parentage based on some words written in a book, nobody can stop you from making that choice, or prove conclusively that it's not literal truth (and nobody should particularly care how you choose to believe, so long as you return the courtesy).
Similarly, all the lack of DNA sequencing on particular patches of soil in several areas around Europe proves is that nobody has run such tests (with the likely explanation that after 80 years of natural decay, identification of genetic material proving much about the location of a mass grave would produce inconclusive results anyway). The lack of anyone having done a particular test on a particular spot proves nothing at all regarding what did or did not happen at that location before it was subjected to multiple decades and more than 300 seasons of weather cycles along with whatever natural plant growth and human/wildlife activity might have taken place to "contaminate" or destroy/remove whatever was there in the 1940s. Nobody has "refuted" your absence of evidence because there's no way to refute the absence, and it doesn't matter anyway because that isn't proof or disproof of anything relevant to what you're claiming.
That's the description, and the link is the same as the link to the logical fallacies. Your repeated insistence that somehow nobody has "refuted" your fallacious claim based on the absence of impossible data is in itself an additional fallacy, but that might be more than a half-wit could figure out (which puts it far beyond your particular capabilities).
Also, I'm going offline for the next three days, so don't go ruining too many socks thinking that my lack of responses after this means anything more than that I'm not reading your gibberish again until Monday at the soonest.
You didn’t clearly describe and post a link to any specific example of one of my comments being logically incorrect.
As such you failed yet agate meet the basic criteria to refute anything that I’ve said.
Your generic rhetoric proves nothing about me unless you provide and describe a specific example with a link to me doing it.
You never have.
Archaeology and soil analysis could prove or disprove specific claims if it wasn’t censored and illegal to do so everywhere the evidence exists.
A negative can be proven by proving a positive that is mutually exclusive to it.
Refuting arguments is specific business.
You always cut and run when you fail, which is always.
“Nobody can refute the absence of data that can't be produced in any meaningful state, but that doesn't matter because the absence of evidence does not logically equate to proof of absence.”
“A negative can be proven by proving a positive that is mutually exclusive to it.”
I can prove that you weren’t where you claim by proving that you were somewhere else.
The fact that you don’t know this demonstrates how little you know about logic and science.
Instead of making a long winded admission that you haven’t refuted anything that I’ve said with feeble and illogical excuses for your inadequacy to the task, you should address your irrational fear of being swept up by the mossad, should you ever renege on your commitment to bigotry.
Just because you can’t refute anything I said doesn’t mean that nobody can.
[“A negative can be proven by proving a positive that is mutually exclusive to it.”
I can prove that you weren’t where you claim by proving that you were somewhere else.]
This is the one kind of proof you've never once offered regarding the Holocaust. Over 1 million people were taken to Auschwitz and when it was captured by the Soviet forces there were 7000 prisoners still there. Everyone at the site at that time said that the others had been murdered and the bodies incinerated (claims which you insist they were all somehow "bribed" to make but have never shown any evidence of even a single payment). If you can prove that even 1000 of those missing 993,000 (or more) people were alive in some other place in 1947, you can claim to have "proved the mutually exclusive" condition; however you've never done this, because you can't and never will be able to which is why you just pretend to stand on the claim that nobody has "refuted" the baseless nonsense that you keep repeating.
"Just because you can’t refute anything I said doesn’t mean that nobody can."
Nobody is refuting the "facts" you've presented because they don't prove anything like what you imagine they do. A baseless claim that tens of thousands of first-hand witness accounts were all "bribed" doesn't require any more refutation than a movie script which was explicitly produced as a work of fiction because neither of those things proves anything or bears on reality in any way.
We no longer try to refute your "properly applied logic" because you're either too stupid to comprehend how it's all literally fallacious, even when presented with a listing of formal fallacies with citations of which ones make up your insane version of the concept.
Nobody can refute the things you choose to imagine are proof of global media manipulation but which actually just indicate that a number of different newspapers around the country subscribe to the same wire services and publish the stories distributed by those services (one of which happens to be a story which used the words "six million Jews" in 1917). It's not that your claim is unassailable, it's that your "proof" is entirely imagined; if you were to go through the archives of those papers you'd find at least 20-30 other stories every week which also shared common wording and which had nothing at all to to with Jews, or Europe because that's how a wire service works, and such services have been in widespread use since the expansion of the nationwide telegraph networks made them possible across expanding portions of North America. You probably just ratchet up the fanatasy and imagine that the wire services are just how the Jewish cabal is "covering their tracks".
As long as you insist on seeing "proof" where there is none, and imagining that unrelated bits of trivia constitute some kind of imagined "evidence trail", nobody can refute those "connections" because there are no actual connections to be refuted.
Again, no clear description, no link to prove that you’ve ever refuted anything that I’ve said.
It’s obvious that you’re trying to refute things I’ve said without a link because any link you provided would demonstrate your failure.
Then, contradicting your own efforts you admit that I’ve never been refuted with the pathetic excuse that there’s nothing to refute.
Let’s see the link to what you’re talking about. You’ve tried before, link to that.
You won’t because you know you failed.
Were it just you and I, and not this town square, I’d tell you that you’re too stupid to make a good argument and that I don’t want to waste my time with you.
But, being a town square, my repeated demonstration of your failure to refute anything I’ve said, has its purpose. I like the optics.
When people stop responding to you, it doesn’t mean that you’ve “won” the argument.
But if they haven’t already clearly refuted what you said, they lose their opportunity to.
Don’t feel bad about being stupid, you’re far from alone.
Stupidity is the lowest common denominator for human intelligence.
But if you don’t want to remain a stupid sheeple you’re going to want to stop relying on people leaving arguments to avoid you and start testing your own arguments before using them.
Can you do that?
"Were it just you and I, and not this town square, I’d tell you that you’re too stupid to make a good argument and that I don’t want to waste my time with you.
But, being a town square, my repeated demonstration of your failure to refute anything I’ve said, has its purpose. I like the optics."
Keep being happy with the optics, while the rest of us keep wondering what color the sky is in the world where your mind exists.
I've posted a link and detailed descriptions of why what you think is "properly applied logic" is actually a formal fallacy that's been defined in the rules of logic for centuries, and all you can do is continue to insist that I've not yet posted a link.
The optics here, to anyone capable of conscious thought who happens to read any of this, are that you're too stupid to understand that your "evidence" doesn't need to be disputed because it doesn't actually prove what you think it does.
I can't dispute that dozens of newspapers around the USA all published stories about Europe which used the same wording within the span of about 7-10 days in 1917. I don't even doubt that it happened, so I wouldn't try to dispute it anyway. I've got no need to dispute it because all it proves is that those newspapers all subscribed to the same "wire service" at that time, and that the story in question was one of hundreds of different stories that those papers all printed similar or identical versions of during that time. It's not a global conspiracy, its been typical of how the newspaper business has been run since at least the late 19th century; Associated Press and Reuters are the two most prominent modern wire services which are in current use by pretty much every printed "major" newspaper in the USA but the existence of such companies dates back to at least the end of the US Civil War (assuming you believe that one actually happened).
What you think constitutes "proof" of a global zionist conspiracy is simply an indication of something that nobody has ever attempted to conceal (wire service stories are attributed to the service in the byline of the article, which your "proof" stripped off of every quoted snippet from story that you're imagining some kind of significance into).
It's not my fault that you're too stupid to comprehend why that refutes your premise. Just as it's not my fault that you're too stupid to understand what the actual "optics" are here for whoever might actually bother to look. Beyond that, I'm not to blame for the fact that you're stupid enough to think that I might care what you think of my intelligence (considering what you think the words "science" and "logic" and "refuted" mean, maybe I should be flattered that you'd call me stupid, though?), or that you're somehow delusional enough to consider yourself intelligent. Someone could probably teach a cat or a monkey to copy/paste extended lists of unverifiable, dubiously sourced, and out of context "quotations" and could definitely program a bot to do the same; you're not proving much in terms of your own capabilities by repeatedly doing the same, and might I add that your lists of "proof" rarely, if ever actually include links to anything of any significance, either.
Keep liking the optics with these exchanges, and those of up who are happy to let you continue to embarrass yourself will keep handing you more rope. There's nothing anyone could do to make people doubt your claims, your sanity, and your ability to dress yourself in the morning that could possibly complain with the fire-hose of nonsense that your cult programmers somehow convinced you to believe amounts to proof of anything at all, especially when one half of it is all that's needed to disprove the other half of it in many cases.
You posted an irrelevant link without any connection to anything I’ve specifically said.
You tried to refute me an failed, again.
Yes I’m pleased with the optics.
[You posted an irrelevant link without any connection to anything I’ve specifically said.]
I posted a link to a list of logical fallacies to demonstrate that every aspect of what you call "properly applied logic" is specifically associated with one or more specific kinds of fallacious thinking. I also cited which of the major fallacies are the ones which you most commonly employ in your "properly applied" nonsense.
The point wasn't to refute any of the random bits of trivia which you repeatedly post lists of (usually without sourcing to prove that any of them are actual quotations from people who actually existed or had any particular significance in any meaningful field). There's no need to refute that, and it's not worth the time it would take to look into it. The tactic of mass-dumping a large quantity of dubious or invalid "proof" and implying that the sheer volume of it implies some significance is a specific kind of fallacy in and of itself
What I'm disproving is your claim that any of that actually proves anything like what you claim it does. In particular by demonstrating that the logic you insist on using is not only invalid, but is flawed in ways which the actual rules of logic have names for.
As long as you deliberately avoid the use of anything close to valid logic, and instead cling to calling your pile of fallacies "properly applied logic", you're invalidating your own premise regardless of whether or not any of your alleged "evidence" is or isn't valid.
It might be technically incorrect to say that anyone else is actually "refuting" you, since by using fundamentally invalid logic as the foundation for your entire premise it's really you who is the one who invalidates the things you're saying. The rest of us merely attempt to illustrate that in a way that maybe someday you'll be able to comprehend.
Just curious, but do you also think that "proper application" of gasoline to re-fill a car means to put the hose through the passenger window and into the glove box? Or do you pop the hood and just spray the gasoline onto the top of the still-running engine? Either of those would be analogous to how your version of "properly applied" logic relates to actual valid logic is why I feel a need to ask that.
It's not my responsibility that you're too aggressively ignorant to comprehend that what you think is "logic" is entirely based in what the rules of logic include specific descriptions and reasons for why they're invalid. Nor is it my fault that you're probably too flat-out stupid to comprehend either of these two sentences.
Keep enjoying those optics, though. The rest of us are fully aware of what any intelligent and thinking person will see if they read your lunacy, and we're all 100% clear on how that differs from what you think that it all means.
This is what Jews have brought with them everywhere they’ve ever lived throughout history.
No civilization can exist with a business model of lying.
When the liars agenda and evil practices are exposed, they are hated and persecuted.
Queue the violins, “the pooor persecuted Jews” who are right now committing a holocaust in Gaza with warrants for their leaders arrest.
I thought it was pedo Pete, or Robert j peters
How adorable. Sullim wants to pretend it was only taxes and guns. And not a blanket 11 year pardon to also cover FARA and bribery.
How adorbs jacob.
What's hilarious is the property owner of the place hunter rented in California is now asking about the 300k he is still owed. Apparently Hunter tried to pay the bill with artwork featuring his shit too.
You morons had four years, full subpoena power, and a laptop filled with dick pics and you still couldn't find any evidence for your wild claims.
Why the pardon then?
Because Donnie would have appointed a crony special prosecutor with a star chamber to nail HB.
So he did break the law.
Yeah, gun and tax laws.
But the Goober-hillbilly Comer worked for years to find some Ukraine illegality but couldn't.
SHELL COMPANY!!!
fucking morons like Jesse and ML believed the Goober.
You think 10% of multi-million dollar energy deals are spent on bar bills. That’s one if the dumbest takes anyones ever posted here. Especially when you already know nobody believes your bullshit.
Yeah, but consider the source.
Shrike is pretty stupid.
FARA. Human trafficking. Bribery.
turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
"Yeah, gun and tax laws."
Lucky for the Biden family that the left is generally not big on the importance of "common sense gun safety" or of people who make $Millions from no-show jobs (so that some foreign company with ties to Russian Oligarchs can project the impression of having direct access to a top-level elected official in the US Government) paying their "fair share" worth of taxes.
Interesting how the gun law which Hunter violated was something which was so important that increasing the penalty for violating it "made the country safer" in 2021, but also has no need for enforcement unless the person violating it commits some other crime. Does the mere possession of a firearm by such a person actually make us all less safe, or is it a non-issue until it's used? Both can't be true.
"But the Goober-hillbilly Comer worked for years to find some Ukraine illegality but couldn't."
Hard not to wonder what the Ukranian prosecutor who Joe had fired (using threats of witholding congressionally-appropriated foreign aid; something which was listed specifically in the first articles of impeachment on trump) in 2014 might have found if he'd been allowed to look into Burisma?
turd, the TDS- addled ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Merrick Garland already did that. With Joe's history of getting prosecutors fired in other countries, for looking into Hunter's "business associates" he upgraded the status of the one investigating Hunter to a level that doesn't "serve at the pleasure of the President".
If Hunter's lawyers hadn't pressed the "future immunity" portion of his supposed "deal" so hard in the final hearing, maybe the judge wouldn't have noticed how irregular that part of such a deal really is, and it maybe wouldn't have fallen apart.
Nobody buys your bullshit pedo.
Should make it a 2 for 1 deal, and lock Shrike up with Hunter. Them Shrike can finally see Hunter’s dick up close.
Hey bushpig. Nice narrative you have. Wrong. But nice narrative.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
The Dems claim they had trump dead-to-rights on sedition/treason charges as of 1/7/21, not to mention all the "proof" of Russian Collusion which Adam Schiff saw but somehow chose never to ask Mueller to look at and the whole "fake electors" scheme, whatever that was supposed to actually be, and a phone transcript which supposedly proved a conspiracy to overturn the election all on its own and the only thing they could get to trial against trump was a fabricated case using a law which had literally never been invoked in over a century as an aggravating condition to turn some expired minor bookkeeping charges into "34 felonies" in order to extend the statute of limitations? Even Andrew Cuomo said that if trump didn't run in 2024, that NY "fraud" prosecution would never have happened (even with the State AG having promised during her election campaign to single out the trump family for prosecution and to dismantle his business operations).
Now when trump claims he'll use a quarter of the tactics that were used against him and his supporters against his opponents it's "Fascism"? Or when trump calls the fringe left "an internal threat" it's somehow fundamentally different from Biden calling MAGA supporters "domestic terrorists"?
There's plenty of evidence, stupid. Four years of "full supoena power?" Well, stupid, you don't know the diffrerence between 2 and four, learn to count. There isn't a justice dept that is willing to charge under Joe Biden.
not hypocrisy, Ruler mentality. B's not pretending to be better than is the case he just doesn't care what you think.
Do you think Reason's afternoon articles are better because the author's read the morning links comments?
Nah, that's a joke yall.
Almost none of those potential defendants ever face prosecution. From FY 2008 through FY 2017, for example, federal prosecutors filed an annual average of just 133 charges under Section 922(g)(3).
One reason such cases are rarely prosecuted is that the government generally does not know which drug users are gun owners or vice versa. But Biden publicly admitted his drug use, and his acquisition of the revolver came to light as a result of a bizarre spat with his girlfriend.
So, as it turns out the reason this statute isn't prosecuted often boils down to the difficulty of actually catching people doing it. I'd bet if they end up admitting to it like Hunter did, they still go to jail though. In fact, the author admits as much as shown above.
Let us also not forget that lying on your taxes would put you and me in jail for a long ass time but since our dad's aren't President we just get fucked.
Concentrating on the gun charges that libertarians might agree with (if not for the clear and obvious fact these laws aren't being repealed) is a rhetorical dodge and should be called out as such. These laws are still on the books and people are still going to go to jail because of it, it just turns out they don't apply to our leaders and their fucked up crackhead kids.
If any libertarian is celebrating that, they've taken too many blows to the head.
Translation: WAAAAH! Noneadese libertarians wants to help us Godly Oafish Pricks lynch people over sumptuary superstition and prohibition violations!
“I translate contracts, engineering material and financial & political stuff.”
https://libertariantranslator.wordpress.com/who-is-hank-phillips/
What a joke. He doesn’t have any clients. No one would do business with that insane, senile red diaper hippie.
More like blow up their nose amirite?
Sullum's also playing the "How to lie with statistics." game. 922g3 only gets ~133/yr. but, per Sullum's own retardation, 922g3 wasn't the only charge on which he was convicted. 922a6 and 922a1A pull down another ~130-150/yr. as well. The charges could be and likely are redundant, but they could also be redundant across other categories. Meaning 133/yr. is the absolute minimum and the number is almost certainly higher.
Moreover, Hunter wasn't some insurance adjuster with a wife and kids who once got caught with a dime bag in his car in the 80s. Hunter, documentedly and by his own admission, has had a problem and been skating on his name for quite some time.
Regardless, it begs the question about how many plebs' lives Sullum would throw under the bus in order to defend Joe and Hunter from the known, deliberate, and foreseeable consequences of their own actions. Not to mention the status quo of keeping the law in place to continue to convict >133/yr. going forward.
That Sullum continues to write for a libertarian magazine is astounding.
That anyone publishes Sullum’s trash is shocking.
So, a Sullum article critical of Biden.
How many "dr;js" comments will we get here?
cri;dr
Jeff is morphing into sarc.
Sad.
Good, I hope he adds a lot of liquor into his regimen of gluttony. A quart of rotgut to wash down those 55 gallon drums of Ben & Jerry’s will finish his heart off that much faster.
A Sullum article critical of Biden, ye say?!?!
I Sullumny and absolutely DENY that this article even exists at ALL!!! Because ALL of us Right-Thinking and Right-Stinking "Team R" Tribalists just KNOW that Reason.cum is all a bunch of icky-pooooo MARXISTS!!!!
QED!!!!
Poor Lying Jeffy.
It is JS;dr dumbass.
Thank you.
Given the true extent of the crimes given a pass, fuck off you dishonest cunr Jacob is nowhere near being critical of the reality.
Hey Jeff, so the gun charges go back to what 2018? Why 11 years for a pardon? Or he could have just commuted the sentence.
We'll wait for you to explain to us.
Hunter needs protection for the FARA violations when he was selling access to his dad to Burisma, or else someone might get a warrant to look into the "10 percent for the big guy" and how that might have been laundered (say by charging Hunter $50k/month rent to live in the house where he gerew up?).
It'd really suck for Joe and "Dr, Jill"'s retirement if a bunch of their stuff got swept up by asset forfeiture until the government could sort out what portion was obtained legally and what was maybe purchased with the proceeds from Hunter's overseas graft and tax evasion.
Don’t forget Hunter’s deal in 2016 with the ChiComs where they had him flip Tenke Fungurum mine in the Congo for $3.8 billion. Odd how the ChiComs would need Hunter Biden, who has no background or experience in mining to buy a cobalt mine for them. Perhaps themorbidly obese neo Marxist groomer can fagsplain that to us.
On an unrelated note, Darth Brandon was sitting VP when that happened.
That's one of the things where likely the only US law he provably broke was not registering as being an "agent of a foreign power" while he was doing it. Whatever portion of the proceeds he kicked up to "the big guy" was likely laundered through some mechanism which would require Hunter's testimony (and maybe some email comms records) to prove might have been funnelling foreign money into the hands of the VP; and with a decade-long pardon he'll now never be faced with the kind of threat of prosecution which might lead him to "flip" on his father (who at this point might actually qualify for a humane release prior to being sentenced if he were convicted of something).
Absolutely disgusting and revolting. It further cements Joe Biden as one of the very worst Presidents in the history of the United States.
Even though Hunter was pardoned, the crimes should be exposed and because of the pardon should be pursued more aggressively.
While I think it's a stupid law, at the same time Hunter Biden showed exactly the sort of behavior that the law was intended to address, him high on drugs and using the gun as a toy (as many pics from his laptop show).
Playing with a gun is dumb enough when sober, much less wacked out on crack. He endangered everyone within range of the gun.
The irony of a Democrat, in office for 55+ years, having their no-shit crack using kid get busted by laws designed by Democrats (or was it Rethuglikkans?!?) to disarm black people is not lost on me.
If coffee had been banned after the death of Pope Leo, and coke were the new morning stimulant, this brainwashee could be scribbling "dumb enough when sober, much less wacked out on coffee." Ignorance, gullibility and superstition make a repulsive mixture, especially when retasked to maximize coercion and murder.
If frogs had wings they wouldn’t bump their ass.
The pardon isn't really for the gun crimes. Those are just a thing the Left can use to deflect from the real reason - influence peddling investigations.
what was hunter's tax bill? how was it paid?
Hunter paid his tax bills by selling Hunter Biden art! Sad to say for him, his free ride will be over soon.
Butt according to right-wing wrong-nuts, Hunter Biden art has NEVER been ANY kind of problem!
Hunter Biden art does concern me, to be clear about it. However, this is an opportune time to call attention to the hyper-partisans, who will “refute” what you say, by pointing out that your source is “from the wrong tribe”!
Leftist media bias by Vox is a fib sometimes! Hunter Biden art…
https://www.vox.com/2021/8/3/22601671/hunter-biden-art-sales-walter-shaub “Why Obama’s former ethics czar is highly critical of Hunter Biden’s lucrative art sales … There have been many bad-faith “scandals” linked to the president’s son. Walter Shaub thinks this one should be taken seriously.
I wonder if the Trumpaloos will now show up to say that Vox is liberally biased, and can't be trusted? This here “Vox” article MUST mean that Hunter Biden is a GREAT artist, and there are NO opportunities for corruption, here!
https://www.allsides.com/news-source/vox-news-media-bias
“VOX” rated as far-left as is allowed… The needle is pegged!
PROOF, then, that Hunter Biden art is of NO concern to stalwart conservatives and Trumpaloos! (Since Vox always lies, of course).
QED!!!!
Unread
Obliviously un-educated, and PROUD of shit's ignorance!!!
DLAM is becumming delaminated!!!
Sounds like it’s time to euthanize another squirrel
No, Hunter didn't pay his taxes, not even a family member paid his taxes for him, Kevin Morris, a Hollywood lawyer "friend" of Joe Biden's paid his taxes for him "just because he felt sorry for him" 6 weeks after meeting him. He also paid Hunter's rent, his legal fees to other attorneys, his overdue child care payments and overdue payments on Hunter's Porsche. All out of the goodness of his little lawyer heart.
Seems like there should be some significant tax liability that comes attached to all that "goodwill". Or did Morris already cover that as well?
Would there even be a world of "high end" art sales if there weren't also a significant number of influential people in the world looking to launder money and move huge amounts of wealth internationally without much regulation?
It'll be interesting to see if big-ticket art prices survive for long if crypto ever really solidifies.
js;dr
Gonna be lit at Hunter's crib tonight!
The gun stuff is the least important of all. Being his fathers bagman for Ukraine actually was important.
Who was Fatass Donnie's bagman when he tried to bribe Zelensky to open up a fake investigation on Biden?
The fake investigation he just got pardoned for? The shit you say is so fucking stupid I don’t even think you believe it.
Hey bushpig, this is even more retarded than above.
Man, you Bushpigs have really lost the plot.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.
Stupid, lying shill child rapist. You should kill yourself.
[tilts hand]
Is it more important that Sullum would, by his own admission, throw several hundred Americans per year under the bus in order to defend the Biden/Deep State status quo or that the Biden/Deep State status quo would use the fealty of people like Sullum to legitimize their misappropriation and war profiteering?
Yes!
" His justification—that his son was "singled out" for political reasons"
"Joe Biden says his son did not deserve prison for violating firearm laws"
You know, fucktard Joe might be right. But (1) when VP and POTUS family members commit crimes that implicate the office-holder, then political reasons are indeed justified. And (2) whatever coke-head Hunter did playing with his gun is way besides the point, given the international bribery and graft he orchestrated for the whole family.
You morons had two full years to find evidence of "international bribery" and all you ended up with were dick pics.
You're sure taking this personally. Is that you, Hunter?
He was a fifty-center, but then got fired. Now he just flails about pathetically.
Hey bushpig. Have you been taking retard argument lessons from jeffsarc?
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
This is the best outcome possible. The total disregard for any semblance of respect for the law is a good thing. The two-tiered justice system, the disdain for the little people, what this shows about federal justice apparatus, and so much more. The breakdown of all trust in our system is accelerating and this is a good thing.
God bless Joe Biden for doing this.
The best outcome possible was Hunter fighting the gun charge all the way to USSC and winning.
ok, that's true.
I'm looking forward to a world in which the only reason to obey law is fear. A world where everyone tries to screw everyone who isn't a fairly close friend, as far as they think they can get away with. The deal is canceled. We'll rebuild as a tribal society.
Sounds like the PRC.
Um, that's how it is now...
It does really support my argument for eliminating the democrats. They do need to keep it up. Each crooked bullshit thing they do is another nail in their eventual coffin.
"Under that arrangement, which collapsed amid objections by a federal judge, Hunter Biden would have pleaded guilty to two tax misdemeanors, and the government would have recommended a sentence of probation. Prosecutors also agreed to drop the gun case once Biden completed a pretrial diversion program."
Fuck you Sullum you dickless pile of rancid cat shit. That 'deal' collapsed because it prevented Biden from being charged with any other federal crimes committed within a given time period. That time period including when... wait for it... Hunter Biden was on the board of Burisma. Oddly enough, the same time period covered by the blanket pardon issued by our scumbag president.
“That time period including when... wait for it... Hunter Biden was on the board of Burisma. Oddly enough, the same time period covered by the blanket pardon issued by our scumbag president.”
Also the same time period that Trump was asking about that caused his first impeachment, which is exactly why Sullum can’t address it after his brown envelope coverage of it.
Hypocrisy is what you pull out of the Biden pardon? Oh right, because to you, it's about a gun crime and dick pics... and we'll just continue to whistle past the Maidan coup and Biden's personal family fortune being tied up in a certain oil company for which his son mysteriously worked, with 10% going to The Big Guy.
Oh right, because to you, it's about a gun crime and dick pics...
You mean, the things that have actually been proven to exist? Unlike, say, bribery?
Lack of evidence is proof of an effective coverup.
Probably shouldn’t have pardoned him all the way back to 2014 then….
Look at Lying Jeffy go!
Tons of evidence against the Bidens you fat faggot.
JS;dr
Unpopular take: Hunter Biden and Donald Trump both belong in jail. They were both given special treatment by the justice system because of their political connections.
Yea, but why bring it up? This story is literally about Joe Biden and Hunter Biden. Why would you even mention Trump - who has nothing whatsoever to do with it - unless the goal was to somehow redirect the narrative to
oh wait I get it.
Hey, just out of curiosity, did this pardon also absolve Hunter of Navy's child support?
Flagrant idiocy is often unpopular.
"Unpopular take"
Whatabout all the recreational weed smokers that have been denied their 2A rights because of these stupid laws? Are you giving your "unpopular take" over in the High Times comment section? Or better yet, have you donated to causes that fight this very thing?
Why here, why now, and why about oligarchs - a club to which you do not belong?
Hey Jules, your fresh perspective hasn't been thought of, or uttered before in a comment section. You've hipped us to a like totally mind blowing angle, and we are all so glad you are here to help us see things a little differently. "Orange Man Bad," like skibidi BOOM - mind. blown.
What does Trump belong in jail for though?
You left Joe out of there. Joe's one of the biggest criminals of them all.
"...Unpopular take: Hunter Biden and Donald Trump both belong in jail..."
Abysmally stupid take from TDS-addled shitpile.
We'd have to build a special prison to house all of the current and former officials for whom that's true.
Comey's conclusion on the HRC investigation wasn't that no law was broken, it was that no prosecutor would ever pursue the charges.
If paying "hush money" to Stormy Daniels to try to keep her from telling the Enquirer about a consensual encounter between two adults amounts to "election interference", then wouldn't the multiple payments made in 1992 to women accusing BIll Clinton of everything from harassment to rape (areas in which we've since been told that we should "believe all women" except for the one who accused Joe Biden) have been deemed to be somehow illegal?
If asking a State AG to "find votes" is electoral fraud, then shouldn't the Gore 2000 campaign be prosecuted for requesting recounts only in specific counties where they expected that more Gore votes than Bush votes would be found?
If "every vote counts" then why not re-count every ballot? Ironically, according to the NYT, Gore would have won if they'd had a full-state recount including "overvotes" (in some cases, voters will write-in the same candidate they've voted for, and thereby render their ballot invalid to a machine-count, and supposedly this generally happens more for Dem candidates than for the other party) instead of focusing on Dem-heavy counties and only "undervotes"
Does this mean I can legally snort a line of coke from the bum of fourteen year old girls?
Or that I can accept massive bribes from foreign entities and pass 10% on to the big guy?
Is smoking crack now legal?
"To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now."
Sullum, you are just completely incorrect.
The *adults are back in charge* - this is clearly an adult thing to do by a man who re-united the country, in the face of literal Hitler taking over.
You must strategically, but reluctantly, concede that this is a perfectly ethical action when done by a Democrat.
Sullum, are you ok? Bending over backwards this much has got to leave a mark.
Notice you didn't talk about why it's 11 years. Or that he had other options. 10/11 years...what was that oh when he went to work for Ukraine.
Just remember taking a pardon means you can't take the 5th on the stand. Hope none of Hunter's work buddies get charged with anything.
Y'all need to read up on Trump's pardons. Then, look at the same people he pardoned who he now wants in his administration. The elder Kushner one is particularly glaring. So yeah, who cares about hypocrisy anymore. Morality, consistency, and decency are pre-November 2024. The people have spoken and the people don't care about all this. Hasn't the media awakened to this? Or are we still doing the double-standard thing?
Y'all need to search for a 2nd brain-cell, TDS-addled pile of shit.
Joe was supposed to be the great savior who would lift us as a country above the kinds of cronyism and self-dealing that's been such a hallmark of the previous several dozen administrations.
I would point out that Trump's pardons were of prosecutions that pretty clearly were politically motivated. The prosecutions were based on lying to investigators during the impeachment investigation, and the supposed lies themselves were vague or unclear how it was even a crime. Things, like the charges against Trump himself, I am confident would never have happened if not for attempts to get Trump.
To compare, Biden was arrested for trying to buy a gun while bragging about drug use. Something very ordinary. Something tangible. Things that anyone with a brain would know is illegal and that people get convicted of all the time. And yet the courts went so lenient on him that a judge had to reel the prosecutors back in.
He was never charged for brazen cocaine use despite it being well known in public circles. He was barely charged for massive tax evasion. And now, purchasing a firearm while publicly talking about his drug use?
That's not comparable.
If it weren't for hypocrites, liars, and thieves, there would be no Democrats and no Democratic Party.
Whatever Democrats do. They never ever ever do.... /s
It's all those other peoples fault. Always. Every-time.
And that's the Democrats *real* party platform at its very core.
The actual mentality that unites them together.
If 'I'm' broke it's 'your' fault.
If 'I'm' politically witch-hunting it's 'your' fault.
If 'I'm' gov-gun stealing it's 'your' fault.
on and on and on and on it goes.