Critics of the Arizona Supreme Court's Abortion Ruling Seem Confused About What Judges Are Supposed To Do
The case hinged on statutory interpretation, not the merits of the state's 1864 ban.

When the Arizona Supreme Court resurrected a sweeping 19th-century abortion ban on Tuesday, the four justices in the majority did not endorse the policy embodied in that 1864 statute. The issue before the court in Planned Parenthood v. Mayes was whether subsequent legislation—in particular, a 2022 law prohibiting abortion after 15 weeks of gestation—had overridden the 160-year-old ban.
That is not the impression left by critics of the decision. "This ruling is a result of the extreme agenda of Republican elected officials who are committed to ripping away women's freedom," President Joe Biden declared. "This reckless decision from the Arizona Supreme Court will put people in life-threatening situations and force many to flee the state for the care that they need," said Athena Salman, director of Arizona campaigns at Reproductive Freedom for All (formerly NARAL Pro-Choice America). Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes, a Democrat, called the decision "unconscionable and an affront to freedom."
Misleading characterizations of the decision were not limited to Democrats who favor broad abortion rights. They were also offered by Republicans who support abortion restrictions but think the 1864 ban goes too far.
"I signed the 15-week law as Governor because it is thoughtful conservative policy, and an approach to this very sensitive issue that Arizonans can actually agree on," former Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey said on X (formerly Twitter). "The ruling today is not the outcome I would have preferred, and I call on our elected leaders to heed the will of the people and address this issue with a policy that is workable and reflective of our electorate."
Even Republican senatorial candidate Kari Lake, who as a gubernatorial candidate in 2022 called the 1864 ban "a great law that's already on the books" while condemning abortion as "the ultimate sin," said she was dismayed by the Arizona Supreme Court's decision. "This is a very personal issue that should be determined by each individual state and her people," she said in a statement that she posted on X. "I oppose today's ruling."
Lake urged state legislators and Arizona Gov. Katie Hobbs, the Democrat who defeated her in the 2022 election, to "come up with an immediate common sense solution." She alluded to a ballot initiative that would amend the state constitution to explicitly protect abortion rights: "Ultimately, Arizona voters will make the decision on the ballot come November."
These reactions are what you might expect from pro-choice Democrats and from Republicans who are trying to stake out a moderate position on abortion, either out of sincere conviction or out of fear of the issue's electoral consequences. The 1864 law, which was enacted by the territorial legislature and readopted in 1913 after Arizona became a state, bans virtually all abortions, making an exception only for procedures "necessary" to save a pregnant woman's life. In all other situations, the law, codified as Section 13-3603 of the Arizona Revised Statutes (ARS), prescribes a prison sentence of two to five years for anyone convicted of performing an abortion.
That law is much broader than Arizona's 15-week ban, which was approved as Senate Bill 1164 in March 2022, three months before the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade. S.B. 1164, codified as Section 36-2322 of the ARS, affected only a small share of Arizona abortions—about 6 percent, judging from federal data.
Contrary to what Democrats like Biden and Republicans like Lake imply, however, the Arizona Supreme Court did not pass judgment on the wisdom or justice of the stricter law, its correspondence with public opinion in Arizona, or even its validity under the state constitution. "This case involves statutory interpretation," Justice John Lopez IV notes at the beginning of the majority opinion. "It does not rest on the justices' morals or public policy views regarding abortion; nor does it rest on § 13-3603's constitutionality, which is not before us."
Although enforcement of the 1864 ban was enjoined while Roe was in force, the law was never repealed. The question raised by this case was whether the pre-Roe law had nevertheless been superseded by S.B. 1164. The majority concluded that the 2022 law "does not create a right to, or otherwise provide independent statutory authority for, an abortion that repeals or restricts § 13-3603, but rather is predicated entirely on the existence of a federal constitutional right to an abortion," which the U.S. Supreme Court repudiated in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization.
"Absent the federal constitutional abortion right, and because § 36-2322 does not independently authorize abortion, there is no provision in federal or state law prohibiting § 13-3603's operation," Lopez writes. "Accordingly, § 13-3603 is now enforceable."
Because the court remanded the case "for potential consideration of the remaining constitutional challenges to § 13-3603," however, enforcement will not begin right away. "Abortion providers said they expected to continue performing abortions through May as their lawyers and Democratic lawmakers searched for new legal arguments and additional tactics to delay the ruling," The New York Times notes. Mayes, meanwhile, "promised to mount a legal effort to fight off implementation of the law and said she would not prosecute doctors for providing abortions."
While the consternation provoked by the decision is understandable, that does not mean Lopez and the three justices who joined his opinion were wrong. The Times concedes that "many legal analysts, both liberal and conservative, said there appeared to be a solid legal foundation for Tuesday's ruling," which was "an attempt to apply the State Legislature's own recent decisions on the abortion issue."
Because S.B. 1164 says a physician may not perform an abortion when "the probable gestational age" of the fetus is "greater than fifteen weeks," Planned Parenthood argued, it implicitly allowed abortions prior to that cutoff. But the bill explicitly says it does not "create or recognize a right to abortion" and that it does not "repeal, by implication or otherwise, section 13-3603, Arizona Revised Statutes, or any other applicable state law regulating or restricting abortion."
The court sought to "reconcile the legislature's construction provision, which specifically preserves § 13-3603, and the text of § 36-2322, which is silent on, and ambiguous as to, its effect on § 13-3603." Lopez notes that "the construction provision is part of the bill that legislators have before them and approve, and has the same force of law as codified law."
The construction provision also says "the Legislature does not intend this act to make lawful an abortion that is currently unlawful." That language, Lopez says, "seemingly engenders confusion, but its context and logic instead yield clarity." He explains:
This provision can reasonably bear only one meaning: the legislature did not intend the act to codify an independent statutory right to an elective abortion before fifteen weeks' gestation or otherwise repeal any other abortion laws more restrictive than S.B. 1164. Any other reading is implausible because, at the time of its passage, S.B. 1164 merely sought to restrict a federal constitutional right to abortion that the legislature was powerless to abolish. Under no scenario could the legislature's restriction of a broader abortion right be construed to "make lawful an abortion that is currently unlawful" unless the act was misinterpreted to (1) override § 13-3603, the only provision in Arizona or federal law at the time that made an elective abortion before fifteen weeks' gestation "currently unlawful" or (2) otherwise repeal more restrictive abortion statutes. Thus, the provision must mean that the legislature "d[id] not intend [S.B. 1164] to make lawful an abortion that is currently unlawful [under § 13-3603 or any other statute more restrictive than S.B. 1164]." This is the only interpretation that is internally consistent with, and does not defeat, the remainder of S.B. 1164's construction provision. And it helps that the legislature identified precisely which statute it meant to preserve: § 13-3603.
In a dissent joined by Chief Justice Robert Brutinel, Vice Chief Justice Ann A. Scott Timmer says the majority's reliance on S.B. 1164's construction clause is misguided, because it "provides absolutely no insight on what the legislature meant by any language in the statute" and "is emphatically not part of the statutory text." She also notes that the state legislature "stood pat" after Dobbs: It did not repeal the 15-week ban, "repeal or curtail other abortion-regulating statutes," or "clarify the impact" of Section 13-3603. Instead, Timmer says, it "purposely chose to leave all these statutes fully intact and simultaneously operational."
The pre-Roe ban and the 2022 law, Timmer argues, "can and should be interpreted
harmoniously to permit their joint enforcement until the legislature or the people, through the initiative process, say otherwise. This means physicians should be permitted to lawfully perform abortions before the fifteen-week gestation point or when necessary to preserve the pregnant woman's health."
Timmer suggests that Arizona legislators did not anticipate how far the U.S. Supreme Court would go in Dobbs. "All agree the legislature enacted § 36-2322(B) in hopes the Supreme Court in Dobbs would uphold Mississippi's similar Gestational Age Act," she writes. "But the legislature perhaps got more than it expected when Dobbs overruled Roe. Some, most, or even all legislators in 2022 would have included a trigger clause repealing § 36-2322(B) and other Title 36 laws if they foresaw that Roe would be overruled and the injunction on § 13-3603 lifted. But the legislature did not state that intent in any statute or session law, and we should not speculate about what it would have done."
Reasonable people can disagree about who has the better of this argument. But all of the justices agree that the issue is the merits of dueling statutory interpretations, not the merits of enforcing the 1864 ban.
"The abortion issue implicates morality and public policy concerns, and invariably inspires spirited debate and engenders passionate disagreements among citizens," Lopez writes. "A policy matter of this gravity must ultimately be resolved by our citizens through the legislature or the initiative process. Today, we decline to make this weighty policy decision because such judgments are reserved for our citizens. Instead, we merely follow our limited constitutional role and duty to interpret the law as written."
Although all of the justices were appointed by Republican governors, the Times portrays the court's decision as a product of political manipulation. In a story published on Wednesday, reporters David Chen and Michael Wines explain "How the G.O.P. Molded the Arizona Court That Upheld the Abortion Ban." The subhead notes that Ducey "expanded the court to seven justices," all of whom are "solid conservatives."
When the court "upheld a Civil War-era abortion ban this week," the lead says, "it rejected the argument that the 160-year-old statute had been overtaken by decades of newer laws regulating the procedure, including a recent law banning abortion after the 15th week of pregnancy. But to better understand the court itself, look no further than the year 2016, when Gov. Doug Ducey, a Republican, successfully expanded the court's membership from five to seven justices."
This framing is weird for a couple of reasons. Chen and Wines admit that "many legal analysts, both liberal and conservative," think the ruling has "a solid legal foundation." They cite Daniel Scarpinato, Ducey's former chief of staff, who "said it was clear that the court's ruling this week was based on a close reading of the law, not politics." They quote University of Arizona law professor Barbara Atwood, who says: "I don't see it as an ideology-driven decision; I think what the majority is saying is, 'We're trying to be faithful to what the Arizona Legislature really intended.' They don't care what the Legislature intended in 1864. They care what the Legislature intended in 2022." Chen and Wines also note that Ducey, whose appointments they say led to this outcome, was displeased by the decision, which "presents a political risk to Republicans."
Like the misplaced, result-oriented criticism of the ruling, the story focuses on its policy and political implications instead of its legal reasoning, which Chen and Wines do not elucidate, although they acknowledge that it seems "solid." The story about the decision that the Times published on Tuesday likewise barely scratches the surface of the legal dispute that it resolved. But that is the heart of the case, and ignoring it misconstrues what judges are supposed to do, conflating what the law says with what it should say.
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This is what you get when you have too many laws. .
I know I'm going to sound completely crazy but "abortion = murder" is pretty simple.
Of course, knee-jerkers will tell you how oppressive that is to force women to house fetuses while supporting duty-to-retreat and depriving people of firearms for self-defense and ignoring the fact that some 40% of murders go entirely unsolved... but if the laws are too simple then you can't grant special protections for race and sex and gender and orientation and litigate it all back to 1920 or 1864 or 1789 or 1619 or whenever. And if you can't grant special protections, you can't keep them on or in the reservation/plantation/kitchen/closet even if no one else has effectively done that in over 100 yrs.
"abortion = murder" would be very simple - if that's what the law said. As Don't Look implies, the existing Arizona law is not nearly that simple. What I think Don't Look is trying to point out (and to which I emphatically agree), is that it's the legislature's job to sort this out. And when the legislature does a piss-poor job (by passing too many laws with too many conflicting scenarios), courts will have to do their best to sort them out according to principles of statutory interpretation and not based on their personal policy preferences.
Yeah, I wasn't refuting the court's decision. Just pointing out that simple, coherent policies don't necessarily or generally win elections and kicking it back to the legislature is more like kicking the can than an actual solution.
But there are no actual solutions. Some people want one thing, others want another. And it'll always be that way.
The problem with taking this stance is it proves too much. You're effectively arguing against law entirely and not for some sort of least bad/intrusive trade-off that favors one perspective over another but minimizes the overall burden. But comment sections are for pithy, easily misconstrued statements and not treatises.
Most of the hundred or so GOP wankers I muted are gathered here, so a moment of doleful silence is in order in respect for the passing of O.J. Simpson--patron saint of bulliers of females and increasers of female deaths in childbed. And OJ, like Little Baron Trump, was also robbed and framed after the law found him not guilty. Like Long Dong and Clayton Bigsby, OJ will forever inspire the Nazarene's National Socialist Admirers to stick up for male power to force women at knife point to do their bidding.
As far as I know, no state has gone for that simple route of simply adding abortion to their murder statutes. Seems like the obvious thing to do though if people really mean it when they say "abortion is murder".
Seems like the obvious thing to do though if people really mean it when they say “abortion is murder”.
An obvious thing to do if you want a lynch mob of pussy hats sacrificing effigies of you at your door. Because, as indicated, even completely reasonable people making even vague assertions along these lines will get everything between “You want to enslave all women!” and “The public (that The Media has duly informed for two decades that you or anyone like you wants to enslave all women) don’t support that.”
These pussy hats wewre not around in 1864.
James Carey Turok was convicted of second-degree murder in B.C. Supreme Court but will receive treatment at a forensic psychiatric hospital in the Lower Mainland instead of serving a life sentence. He truly believed the guy he killed was a zombie, just like Robert Dear faithfully believed the cop and others he killed were obstructing his saving of ova fertilized with spermatozoa. This is what girl-bulliers call sane reasoning.
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I know I’m going to sound completely crazy but “abortion = murder” is pretty simple.
You may think it’s simple, but then what do you do when people start wrangling over which murders should be legal? And using the word “murder” to say so?
It’s words all the way down.
Except we do that now over life and personhood to mo gain.
Murdering an individual is different from killing millions of spermatozoa. See 14A. Slavery is different from freedom but the same a coercion. See 13A
As much as I hate to agree, I do.
When I first became old enough, I decided to write a pro and con for every critical thing I believed in, and for abortion, the most straightforward internally consistent position is the extreme pro-life one.
It’s a baby. We don’t kill people except to protect other people. The end. The result is this, triage-only abortions.
The logic is inescapable and uncontestable. The only assumption is based on the unquestionable fact that life is continuous. Any counterpoint must fight uphill, either supporting murdering innocents for the greater good or that a fetus is somehow not a human. Neither are firm counterpoints. Other issues like the problems the will cause the mother or good of the resulting child are easily dismissed because neither of those remotely justify murder.
It's a strong philosophical issue for anyone who tries to grapple with it.
extreme pro-life one
Again, it's not exactly an extreme pro-life position. Unless snooping around for a bit, shrugging your shoulders and saying "Welp, nobody saw nothing and I can't find anything.", some 40% of the time someone winds up unarmed with a 9mm hole in them constitutes an extreme pro-life position.
Turning around throwing inordinate numbers of people in prison for possession of 9mm hole punches on the off chance that one of them might have been responsible seems like a pretty extreme pro-life position, but even then, they stab each other to death while locked up and people, once again, shrug.
AFAICT, as Chesterton indicates, the issue is that [sic] "People don't forsake God to get more rational. They forsake God to get more insane religiousness."
"that a fetus is somehow not a human" is objectively and scientifically true, up until a certain point. The exact point is debatable, though. But a fetus is no more a human than an egg is a chicken or paint supplies are a painting. Left to their own devices they would die one hundred percent of the time. Even supported in the womb they self abort nearly 30-40% of the time up to about week 15. You step on bugs and eat things with far more intelligence. Law is almost never written on potential but on what is provable and probable at the time the incident in question occurred. That is before we get into pragmatic arguments and the soft eugenics we engage in when fetuses are horrible malformed.
"This reckless decision from the Arizona Supreme Court will put people in life-threatening situations and force many to flee the state for the care that they need,"
It's a good thing Mexico legalized abortion in 2021. Otherwise all the pregnant Arizonan refugees wouldn't have anywhere to flee. Eh, Joe?
What's annyoying is that they speak in such hyperbole.
No one needs to 'flee'. You want an abortion - CA and NM are right there. Arizona is around 300 miles wide and you don't have to travel more than 250 miles, tops, to get to an abortion provider in a neighboring blue state.
>Critics of the Arizona Supreme Court's Abortion Ruling Seem Confused About What Judges Are Supposed To Do
Of course they're confused - they're Democrats.
To Democrats, judges are supposed to rubber-stamp what the Democrats want. That's their purpose.
Or in Mexico.
In fairness, the article points out that there are more than a few AZ Republicans who are equally confused.
Also supposed to overrule laws passed by Republicans and inject Democrat wants by judicial fiat.
Looks like I was wrong about this one.
Now do the Alabama IVF case where the judge literally said, it wasn’t his job to decide if the law was moral or good policy but to interpret the law.
I'll take the judge that does his job properly regardless of political considerations. Or personal beliefs or whatever. Interpret the law motherfucker, it's your only job.
Now do female genital mutilation in religious countries where women are slaves and can't vote.
dear legislature: make with the legislating. is sensible.
"... the extreme agenda of Republican elected officials who are committed to ripping away women's freedom ..." but it's okay for extreme agenda Democratic elected officials to be committed to ripping away everyone else's freedom, including women's freedom, to do everything else besides get an abortion. There! FIFY, Joe!
While not specifically disagreeing with this decision or the judges' statement about the constitutional limitations on the Court's function in cases like this, I do think it's curious that Courts frequently limit their discretion when it suits them to do so in order to achieve a certain outcome, while they also frequently expand the hell out of those limits whenever doing so achieves a different outcome that they want to reach. Probably just coincidence though ...
All legalistic thinking is like this. Jewish law, for instance, is hilarious. Somehow a prohibition on eating calf boiled in its mother's milk (a symbolic way to say, "Don't rub it in when somebody's defeated.") becomes a prohibition on mixing meats and milks in general, while at the same time all manner of loopholes are punched into other prohibitions.
As soon as a society expands beyond a number of persons who can all know each other, law is developed, and inexorably builds into such complexity that its impact cannot be reliably predicted.
All christian national socialist sumptuary, censorship and prohibition laws invariably weaken and wreck the economy--just like looter tax laws--by making trade & production a crime. Altruist religious bigots seek to bully women and have goons rob the weak. Both looter ideologies seek to remove the word "willing" from the Law of Supply and Demand. Observe that every Panic, Crash and Depression follows an uptick in infiltrated superstition as law of the land.
A surprising intelligent article about the subject and concerns about this ruling from Sullum.
Sullum's good unless Trump's involved.
I'm shocked he avoided Trump despite the links to Lake.
Seriously WTF happened to Jacob? He's actually correct here, this is just boring statutory interpretation shit. If the court gets it wrong the state passes a new statute. In this case I think they got it right but the same principle applies, pass a new law. If I understand this correctly, AZ passed a law that they knew was unenforceable and that explicitly did not supersede the existing and also unenforceable 19th century law. Really not worth all of the attention.
I want to ask him what he thinks about the AG and Hobbs coming out today in open defiance of the courts and stating they will refuse to enforce the laws. Will Jacob remain consistent and proclaims these acts an insurrection? A conspiracy to violate the law?
Seriously WTF happened to Jacob?
People go on meds all the time and the chickenpox virus can lay dormant for decades before expressing as shingles. Seems completely reasonable that someone could shrug off insane depths of TDS long enough to pen a few paragraphs.
Hell, half the TDS around this place was obviously bubbling under the surface since the Obama-era "civil libertarian" days... to be sure.
I find that about 75% of the public just want judges to "do what's right." And a certain percentage of those even went to law school.
Mencken wrote a Treatise on Right and Wrong.
The self-described "libertarian" justice chose the authoritarian route.
Let's hope that right-wing asshole loses his pending election.
Let's hope all of the right-wing, authoritarian assholes lose.
You really need to up your game if you want any bites.
They only win by getting media to tell the suckers they are "libertarian" Austrians.
People have gotten so used to courts behaving as though they are super-legislatures, having a court restrain itself to an actual judicial function is outrageous.
^THIS^
That is not the impression left by critics of the decision.
That's because they are stupid. And intentionally misinformed by a de facto state media that wants them ignorant and angry.
^and THIS^
Adores Trump is justifiably angry. Other Republican wankers like Madcrass, thoughtlessly murder billions of precious, living, human spermatozoa every day. Too Kwau-kwey is also correct in observing that it was the Yankee States with their Comstock laws that gleefully enslaved women as conscript dams AFTER emancipation! This after acting like there was something wrong with forcing mulatto babes to have sex and have babies with equal coercion. That's hypocrisy!
Did anyone notice Sweden's birth control law, dated 1974, copies the 1972 Libertarian Platform plank and adds an extra 26 days' individual rights protection?
The Abortion Act of 1974 grants women in Sweden the right to abortion up to week 18 in the pregnancy without having to provide any justification.
Christian National Socialists exterminating Jews is evil murder, and justification for bombing, invading, jailing and hanging their leaders. That much is plainly written on the pages of history. Christian National Socialists in the GOP are clearly committed to the proposition that letting women exercise individual rights is the same as letting Nazis murder Jews. Does it not follow that a vote for girl-enslaving mystics in America is the same as a vote to bomb and invade Canada, Ireland, Argentina, Sweden, Mexico and other countries that do not see The Revealed Light?
When libertarians wrote Roe the ladies were gearing up an equal Rights Amendment to Constitutionally enforce their individual right to not be coerced by superstitious wankers. After the LP/Court decision... 1976 — Prohibition party adds platform plank: "We support a Constitutional Amendment to protect the unborn by prohibiting abortion except in those very rare cases where the life of the mother is seriously endangered." Now it's looking like two can play at this. More girl-bullier defeats will make it a lot easier for gals to prevail as in Canada, Mexico, California, Sweden, Ireland and elsewhere. If you doubt it, buy MAGA Tesla stock.
Where'd all the girl-bulliers go? Can individual women can be pregnant, be individuals, and have their rights Constitutionally protected from coercive mystical aggression–all at the same time. The Republican party platform says no, never. Teedy Roosevelt said that was race suicide, and that settles the matter. Er... as soon as "we" can repeal the 19th Amendment.