Alvin Bragg Is Trying To Punish Trump for Something That Is Not a Crime
The essence of the case, the Manhattan D.A. says, is that Trump "corrupt[ed] a presidential election" by concealing embarrassing information.

When Donald Trump's lawyers urged a federal appeals court to approve "absolute" presidential immunity last month, they argued that it was necessary to prevent frivolous, politically motivated criminal charges against former presidents. Last week, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit unanimously rejected that argument, along with the other reasons Trump offered for shielding him from prosecution for trying to reverse the outcome of the 2020 presidential election. The three-judge panel said the danger Trump perceived "appears slight" given prosecutors' "ethical obligations" and "additional safeguards," such as "the right to be charged by a grand jury upon a finding of probable cause."
Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg's case against Trump, which is now scheduled for trial on March 25, would not have been affected by the immunity that the D.C. Circuit declined to recognize, because it is not based on Trump's "official acts" as president. But the case shows that prosecutorial ethics and grand juries are no guarantee against partisan manipulation of the criminal justice system.
The legally and morally dubious charges against Trump, which stem from hush money that he paid porn star Stormy Daniels when he was running for president in 2016 to keep her from talking about her alleged affair with him, reinforce his complaint that Democrats are attempting "election interference" in the guise of seeking justice. And because it looks like this case will be tried before any of the other, more substantial criminal cases against Trump, it is apt to color the public's perception of those cases as well. That likelihood suggests the conspiracy that Trump portrays, which supposedly involves Special Counsel Jack Smith and Fulton County, Georgia, District Attorney Fani Willis as well as Bragg, is much clumsier than he suggests.
Smith and Willis say Trump unlawfully interfered with the 2020 presidential election by trying to enlist state and federal officials in his efforts to stop Joe Biden from taking office. Trump says Bragg is unlawfully interfering with this year's presidential election by pursuing bogus criminal charges. Bragg claims Trump unlawfully interfered with the 2016 presidential election by hiding information that might have turned voters against him. Of these three claims, Bragg's is the least credible.
There was nothing inherently illegal about paying off Daniels. Although the $130,000 payment could be construed as a violation of federal campaign finance law, that interpretation hinges on viewing the hush money as a campaign expense, aimed at securing Trump's victory, rather than a personal expenditure, aimed at avoiding embarrassment and sparing Melania Trump's feelings.
Federal prosecutors did charge Trump fixer Michael Cohen with making an illegal campaign contribution by fronting the money to pay Daniels, and he pleaded guilty to that charge in 2018. But they never charged Trump with breaking the law by arranging the payment or reimbursing Cohen, and it is not hard to see why. The Justice Department's unsuccessful 2012 prosecution of Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, which was based on similar but seemingly stronger facts, foundered on the difficulty of distinguishing between campaign and personal expenditures.
The idea of converting the Daniels hush money into a state crime was so unpromising that Bragg's predecessor, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., rejected it after lengthy consideration. When Bragg revived the idea after taking office in 2022, leading to a March 2023 indictment charging Trump with 34 felonies, many people, including the former president's critics, thought the case reeked of political desperation.
Bragg does not claim that paying off Daniels was itself a crime, because it obviously was not. The indictment instead alleges that Trump violated a New York law that makes it a misdemeanor to falsify business records "with intent to defraud." Trump allegedly did that by misrepresenting his reimbursement of Cohen as payment for legal services under a nonexistent retainer agreement. The 34 counts in the indictment are based on invoices, checks, check stubs, and ledger entries, each of which allegedly helped Trump conceal the hush payment.
This stacking of charges based on the same course of conduct already looks like a vendetta. But why are they felonies? It is not exactly clear.
Falsifying business records becomes a felony, punishable by up to four years in prison, when the defendant's "intent to defraud" includes "an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof." What was the other crime? Bragg claims Trump "violated election laws" when he instructed Cohen to pay Daniels. Which election laws? Bragg so far has refused to say. "The indictment doesn't specify them because the law does not so require," he told reporters last year.
One possibility is that Trump violated federal election laws. But federal prosecutors did not pursue any charges against Trump based on that claim, and it is not clear that "another crime" can include federal offenses, as Vance's staff recognized. In 2022, The New York Times reported that prosecutors working for Vance "concluded that the most promising option for an underlying crime was the federal campaign finance violation to which Mr. Cohen had pleaded guilty." But "the prosecutors ultimately concluded that approach was too risky—a judge might find that falsifying business records could only be a felony if it aided or concealed a New York state crime, not a federal one."
The concern noted by the Times is not the only reason this theory is iffy. If Trump did not understand federal election law, which is hazy at best on this point, and/or did not anticipate how federal prosecutors would interpret it, he did not "knowingly and willfully" violate it, which is an element of the crime. And if he did not believe he (or Cohen) had committed a crime, how could he have falsified business records with the intent of concealing it?
Another theory is that Trump violated New York election laws. In an April 2023 press release, Bragg said the "criminal activity" that Trump sought to "conceal" included "attempts to violate state and federal election laws" (emphasis added). In comments to reporters, Bragg mentioned one possibly relevant New York statute: Section 17-152 of the state's election law.
That provision says "any two or more persons who conspire to promote or
prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means and which conspiracy is acted upon by one or more of the parties thereto, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor." Assuming that the state law applies to federal elections and that "unlawful means" includes a violation of federal limits on campaign contributions, the money that Cohen says he gave Daniels at Trump's behest might qualify as a violation of Section 17-152. But while Vance's prosecutors "briefly mulled using a state election law violation," the Times reported in 2022, they rejected that idea: "Since the presidential race during which the hush-money payment occurred was a federal election, they concluded it was outside the bounds of state law."
The essence of Trump's crimes, Bragg says, is that he "hid damaging information from the voting public during the 2016 presidential election." As the Times notes, Bragg "has presented the loftiest possible conception of the case, casting it as a clear-cut instance of election interference, in which a candidate defrauded the American people to win the White House in 2016."
In a radio interview last December, Bragg complained that the press had described the case as an attempt to criminalize a hush payment. "We would say it's about conspiring to corrupt a presidential election and then lying in New York business records to cover it up," he said. "That's the heart of the case."
Without that alleged conspiracy, however, the falsification of business records would be a misdemeanor. The corruption that Bragg perceives was the hush payment, regardless of how it was handled.
The problem, as Bragg sees it, is that Trump "defrauded the American people" by persuading Daniels to shut up. That characterization does not hinge on whether Trump complied with "state and federal election laws," or even on whether any money changed hands. If Daniels had simply agreed not to talk about the alleged affair after Trump asked her nicely, the result would have been the same: Americans would have been deprived of "damaging information" that might have caused them to think twice about voting for Trump. Bragg's "loftiest possible conception of the case," in other words, is that it seeks to punish Trump for something that is not a crime.
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It takes talent to turn a non-crime into 34 felonies.
Yes, talent by Soros-backed prosecutors supporting their Democratic overlords.
No, it takes plain ordinary government. Nothing talented about it.
You weren't able to this morning. Are you now able to admit this is an example of lawfare?
I'm not going to "admit" to anything. I do think these charges are bogus, despite the lies you tell every day.
Except, that since you hate us and hate Trump, you'll never admit it and never agree that this lawfare is just wrong.
I’m not going to promote your narrative, no.
Because calling it "lawfare" implies that all charges against him are bogus, even the ones that are not.
So no, I'm not going to join you in promoting dishonesty.
You'll get him next time buddy.
Who cares that you have an example of abuse of state power against your enemies. At some point the state has to be correct. You just feel it.
I think that prosecuting Trump is shameful because it sets the precedent for prosecuting outgoing politicians, which is decidedly un-American.
You think it's bad only because you like Trump while you salivate at the prospect of prosecuting outgoing politicians who you hate.
You think it is so shameful every week you come in defending the prosecutions. Lol.
Who cares that he has spent 50M in legal fees. It hurts the man you hate.
You cry and rage against those pointing out the abuses constantly, such as this morning. That is defending the process as punishment.
The other NY case just ruled against him. Go have a shot and celebrate. 350M based on lawfare. Enjoy buddy.
I've never defended the prosecutions.
Keep on lying.
I'd be shocked if you said something truthful.
Tell us again how Biden and Trump breaking the same law and Biden even disclosing classified information is different.
Explaint to us again how Trump was an insurrectionist.
Explain to us how he wanted people to manufacture votes.
The fact you can't admit there is a politically motivated series of trials to bankrupt him and criminalize him is amazing. Youre not a libertarian. You rage against those who point it out.
500M now in judgements. Facing over 100 years in jail. Yet you attack those who point this out. Because you have no principles.
Tell us again how Biden and Trump breaking the same law and Biden even disclosing classified information is different.
When the DOJ asked Trump to give the stuff back he said “Fuck you I do what I want!”
When the DOJ asked Biden to give the stuff back he said “Where am I? What time is it?”
See the difference? Didn’t think so.
Explaint to us again how Trump was an insurrectionist.
I’ve mocked calling J6 an insurrection from the beginning, so you’re asking me to explain something I never claimed.
Explain to us how he wanted people to manufacture votes.
Again you’re asking me to explain something I’ve never claimed.
The fact you can’t admit there is a politically motivated series of trials to bankrupt him and criminalize him is amazing.
I’ve continually said that it’s shameful to prosecute an outgoing politician. What else could that possibly mean?
Youre not a libertarian.
You’re right. I’d describe myself as a classical liberal.
You rage against those who point it out.
I just don’t like unprincipled liars like you.
500M now in judgements. Facing over 100 years in jail.
Shameful.
Yet you attack those who point this out.
I mock crybabies, yes.
Because you have no principles.
Rich, coming from someone who can’t wait see politicians he hates face prosecution.
Anyway, that was the last time I break down one of your comments lie by lie for a while. I hope your weekend sucks.
Jesse, he will always lie and obfuscate. Sarc is incredibly dishonest and too much of a pussy to ever act like a man.
Mocking you for crying over how Trump is such a victim, especially since you cheer when people you hate are victimized, is mocking you. It's not applauding prosecutions. It's pointing out what a shitty human being you are.
Mocking people for pointing to state abuses you mean.
Ashley Bidens death. Face act prosecutions. 1000 J6 non violent protestors.
Youre mocking, and it isnt even mocking, people against government abuses. Lol.
All because you hate those people. Want the citations again buddy?
No, that's not what I mean.
Thanks for lying though. Telling the truth would be cause for concern.
Jesse is telling the truth, you stupid bitch. We point out your lies to you EVERY DAY. Every goddamned day here. And you still spew your bullshit.
No wonder you’re pals with the pedophile, and the fat pedophile.
“I think that prosecuting Trump is shameful because it sets the precedent for prosecuting outgoing politicians, which is decidedly un-American.”
If an outgoing politician did commit crimes, shouldn’t he be prosecuted?
Depends on the crimes, but for the most part no. Because it will be abused, like it's being abused now.
Not if it involves classified documents. I just read how thousands of US Govt routers were under the control of the GRU supported hackers. They were hacked by using the DEFAULT ADMIN PASSWORD. Yes, the government that is supposed to protect our secrets used thousands of routers without changing the passwords. Theee days you have to try to not get classified documents online. I'll bet my SPAM folder is full of offers of classified documents.
Trump could have dumped his boxes of documents off the top of a skyscraper and odds are everyone who found one already had 10 other classified documents.
Broke ass drunk.
It would be so wonderful to get rid of him, Mod, Pluggo, Pedo Jeffy, and Misek. I suppose we could keep Arty around. Just as sort of an amusing buffoon and punching bag.
Weird way to say yes.
Does this mean you're going to stop posting lies about me applauding lawfare?
Haaaa ha ha ha ha! Who am I kidding? You? Stop telling lies? Haaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha! Whew! I'm out of breath! That was a good one!
"Does this mean you’re going to stop posting lies about me applauding lawfare?"
Earlier: "Little baby Trumpkins whines he's being persecuted!"
I think Sarc has entered the phase of his alcoholism where his brain is literally shrinking. He can’t keep track of his ranting and his lies.
What lies? Be specific.
You say I applaud lawfare. I've made it pretty clear that I do not.
Yet I am 100% certain that you'll keep on claiming I applaud lawfare.
Why? Because you'd have a stroke if you said something honest.
You constantly applaud lawfare you pathalogical lying pos. Lol.
J6 convictions being the biggest. Defending the FACE act prosecutions. The multiple legal schemes against Trump.
You really have major mental issues.
You've had a dozen people here call you out on this. This is why you're stuck with Jeff and shrike.
You're accusing me of things I've never said while telling me I've got major mental issues?
Dude...
Every single thing he said is true. Serially denying it won’t save you.
Jus t one clean, then do the honorable thing and never come back.
Everyone can see your posts, sarc. Fucking broken man. Seriously, see a psychiatrist.
People see me post one thing and then see it interpreted to mean something else. You join in because, like your girlfriends, you’re just a pathetic liar behind a keyboard.
That's why Jesse stopped pasting quotes and links. Because it's rather obvious that what I say and what he claims I said are very different things.
You should seek help.
No, we k ow what you mean. You just want to change your bullshit story when you’re called on it. And no one is having it.
You should go somewhere like WaPo. They hate Trump there. It will be like heaven for a scumbag like you.
Objection. Some of us have muted the no info imbecile along with the infinitely more honest and valuable spambots.
He’s doesn’t need a psychiatrist. He needs hospice and maybe euthanasia.
While the FBI hiding the HB laptop so the public wouldn't know what JB was up to was simply a patriotic act intended to protect the right to vote (for JB).
Any prosecutor who can't do it is unlikely to be considered to be good at their job.
Bragg will prosecute whoever let Hillary get away with bleaching her email servers, whoever lied about Hunter's laptop, and whoever lied about Trump's Russia collusion. Oh, and Hillary herself for continuing now, 7 years later, to claim Trump stole 2016 from her.
Sure he will.
The moment he tries Hillary will call the suicide hotline and put in an order.
Smith and Willis say Trump unlawfully interfered with the 2020 presidential election by trying to enlist state and federal officials in his efforts to stop Biden from taking office.
By asking election officials to make sure votes were legal and valid?
Was Gore trying to stop W from taking office?
In a manner of speaking, yes. Unlawfully? Highly unlikely.
Actually, proven illegal, by Supreme Court decision.
""Bragg claims Trump unlawfully interfered with the 2016 presidential election by hiding information that might have turned voters against him. Of these three claims, Bragg's is the least credible.""
Former members of the intel community signed a document that dem controlled media used to discredit the Hunter Laptop so it would not hurt Biden in the election. That seems like a bigger issue than a candidate hiding an affair.
I find it hard to credit the idea that a revelation of an(other) affair would have harmed Trump's campaign in the least. Based upon observation, the number of people who believed Trump was an upstanding family man, is so infinitely small as to be functionally zero.
What I find insulting to me as a voter is the notion that I would give even a tiny rat's ass about some other dude's sex life in deciding whether or not to vote for him. I don't think that anyone who would possibly vote for Trump would care about his sex life. The evangelicals would vote for him, anyway, over Biden or Hillary.
TBF, lots of people would vote for a dead fish wrapped in the New York Times over those two assholes.
There were audio tapes of Slick Willy, having a long-lasting extramarital affair, and it didn't stop "feminists" for voting for him.
Shit! They even supported him when he was caught red-handed sexually harassing a state worker, when he was governor.
He was also credibly accused of rape by Juanita Broderick. Jus like Biden was accused of rape by Tara Reade.
Trump was found civilly liable for rape just a few short weeks ago.
No he was not. He was in fact found no liable for sexual assault, but was liable for defamation for saying that he didn't. It was a very confusing ruling that if reporting is correct is actually internally contradictory.
It has all the Hallmarks of a court case against Trump. Dubious legal premise, multiple violations of his constitutional rights, and crooked democrat plaintiffs, judge and jury. Ultimately, none of these cases will survive appeals courts.
SkippingDog.
Is.
Full.
Of.
Shit.
And is a TDS-addled asshole.
Hell. Feminists were saying how they'd suck his dick because of what he did to preserve a woman's right to murder her baby.
“Alvin Bragg Is Trying To Punish Trump for Something That Is Not a Crime”
When you’ve lost Sullum…
Came here to say the same.
In the middle there he lamented this might discredit the other investigations. This is probably his biggest concern.
It shouldn't have to.
The Fulton County GA one is unraveling on its own.
The DC one is just as bad.
New York just fined him 350M.
That’ll be overturned.
As soon as the case gets out of the clutches of this crooked Marxist judge it will absolutely be overturned.
There's no reason to believe so. On what appellate ground would it be overturned?
That he was fined $350 million for a "crime" that had no victim? Who was defrauded?
On the grounds that it's a bullshit charge and an exaggerated fine. What other reason does a higher court need to ovsrturn the decision?
Are you really this stupid and credulous?
Personally think the Florida case is going to fall apart especially in light of the SC's refusal to prosecute Biden. Despite claims by Sullum and other partisans that Trump's case is "different" there is a strong case that the DOJ is engaged in unequal application of law at least on the document charges if not the obstruction. Smith doesn't have a DC judge and jury down there to rubber stamp his novel reading of the statutes.
Yeah, Smith wasn't able to articulate reason that the case needs to be rushed contrary to DoJ policy and juris prudence, in his filings yesterday asking the USSC to dismiss Trump's challenge to the case. He couldn't justify the rush, despite the inarguable fact that the rush places the defense at a severe disadvantage and the only reason it needs to be rushed are purely political (which directly contradicts DOJ practice that no case can be tried for political purposes). I think Smith realizes his case is iffy at best and is hoping the USSC bars prosecution or delays it so he can blame the USSC and not the obvious weakness of his case. Just like how he and the left will blame Hur for the Florida case falling apart. Hur stated Biden willfully retained and disclosed classified material but refused to prosecute, since they're already calling Hur another Comey, and a Republican plant, they'll claim that Hur worded it in such a manner, while refusing charges, to add strength to Trump's defense or 'confuse' the issue for all us dumb peons.
What Trump asked for is for the mandate to be stayed to its normal deadline per F.R.A.P. rules.
I am not aware of historically-recognized circumstances which would require the mandate to be issxued far earlier than usual.
Yeah, the appeals courts ruling that moved the deadline up was unprecedented. The appeals process is set up to allow both sides adequate time to make their cases, not to meet an arbitrary deadline. Smith is asking for us to remove all the safeguards so he can get a conviction based purely on a political time table. That is about as far from our judicial history as can be reached and is far more similar to medieval courts than post enlightenment courts.
“calling Hur another Comey, and a Republican plant, they’ll claim that Hur worded it in such a manner, while refusing charges, to add strength to Trump’s defense or ‘confuse’ the issue”
I wonder when the usual suspects will start parroting that line?
It's already started.
Can't wait for a Manhattan jury to find him guilty on all counts and a Manhattan judge to label him as a persistent felony offender and give him 20 years.
I doubt that will ever happen to Bragg.
"The 34 counts in the indictment are based on invoices, checks, check stubs, and ledger entries, each of which allegedly helped Trump conceal the hush payment.
This stacking of charges based on the same course of conduct already looks like a vendetta."
Why not charge him for each individual letter and number on those documents? You'd get tons more!
Headline: TRUMP CHARGED WITH 10,000 COUNTS IN INDICTMENT! WALLS = CLOSED IN!
Oddly Sullum had no issue with charge stacking in the Jack Smith case from what I remember.
Very great point!
Sarc now says he’s totally against it even though he never ever was.
And because it looks like this case will be tried before any of the other, more substantial criminal cases against Trump, it is apt to color the public's perception of those cases as well. That likelihood suggests the conspiracy that Trump portrays, which supposedly involves Special Counsel Jack Smith and Fulton County, Georgia, District Attorney Fani Willis as well as Bragg, is much clumsier than he suggests.
And this is the real tragedy, that people might start thinking Trump has a point about all these cases being politically motivated. We can't afford for Trump to ever be right about something.
Nice of you to admit it.
""If Trump did not understand federal election law, which is hazy at best on this point, and/or did not anticipate how federal prosecutors would interpret it, he did not "knowingly and willfully" violate it, which is an element of the crime. And if he did not believe he (or Cohen) had committed a crime, how could he have falsified business records with the intent of concealing it?""
Because if we don't get Trump on something it will be the end of democracy.
I just read a story how truck drivers are talking about refusing to deliver loads to New York City because they see Trump as being politically persecuted. Truckers don't seem to be a big block of blue voters and they did manage to get a lot together to protest in Canada.
I'd suggest before playing at this level they take their money out of their banks first. Never know what Biden might do if NYC starts getting hungry... and smelly... and unmedicated...
Haven't posted links before. I don't like to do it since I don't follow them. However I posted this one, it's the link to the article I mentioned above.
https://www.timesnownews.com/world/new-york-city-shipments-to-stop-after-trump-civil-fraud-verdict-truck-driver-threatens-boycott-in-viral-video-article-107785359
Should have been settled with a nolo plea and a $50,000 fine or something, and nothing but low-level bitching thereafter.
Fine for what?
Being Trump.
Being Donald J. Trump?
For whatever he pleaded nolo to
Oh, hear me out, we follow the Constitution which requires him to be proven guilty in an impartial court case while affording him the full protections of the 4-7 amendments, and if he isn't proven guilty, than the case dies. I know it's old fashion but I believe laws should be applied equally and not based upon someone's political stances.
I believe laws should be applied equally
Crazy talk. That sort of sentiment is extreme alt-right-wing propaganda conspiracy nonsense. Do better.
It’s racist too, somehow. Just like a work ethic and good hygiene.
Or, in the case of SRG, a lack of intelligence.
The fault in your logic comes down to realities.
1. Democrats don’t believe win the rule of law. Democrats believe in the rule of democrats.
2. Much of our legal system is under the control of democrats.
Should have a brain transplant, TDS-addled shit-pile.
Bragg claims Trump unlawfully interfered with the 2016 presidential election by hiding information that might have turned voters against him.
"Bragg claims every candidate ever unlawfully interfered with their election by hiding information that might have turned voters against them."
Yes. If it were applied across the board, every politician ever would be charged. It's really one of the more ridiculous things I've ever heard.
Does anyone actually buy the idea anyone who voted for Trump, a man we've constantly been informed about his multiple marriages, and affairs, for forty plus years, who was on the Access Hollywood tape bragging about how easy it was for him as a celebrity to get a piece of trim, who hosted beauty contests, hung out at the Playboy Mansion and with centerfolds, would have voted against him for nailing a porn actress? Really? Fuck, weekly, if not daily there were articles calling Christians hypocrites because they didn't condemn him for his past actions (completely missing the whole point of Christianity in the process, that all are sinners and, judgement, salvation and forgiveness come from God and thus we, as mere humans should not usurp God) listing every action or perceived action that should result not only in Christians not voting for him, but for calls of placing him in the pillory.
It’s only a big deal if he presented himself as a family values candidate like Pence. He didn’t. That’s why I never had a huge problem with it.
With Trump, everyone knew who they were getting. That’s why they can’t nail him on anything. His whole life has been lived out publicly for almost fifty years. There is no ‘gotcha’ revelation to be had. So democrats and RINOs have to j vent things.
Your post reminded me, back in the 2016 run up to the election there was a guy, claimed to be conservative, who tried to win converts to his not voting for Trump cult and his reason was Trump is an "oath breaker" because he got a series of divorces.
I don't know what religion he professed because I think even the Catholics don't throw a hissy fit over divorce anymore.
Not the affairs, not the opinion. Nope, it was Trump getting a divorce that made him decide that Trump couldn't be a good president.
What the litteral fuck. Some people I guess.
Doesn't this mean that every intelligence agent who denied the Hunter laptop is guilty as well?
Absolutely!
Don't leave out the social media apparatus of the time and MSM.
>>But the case shows that prosecutorial ethics and grand juries are no guarantee against partisan manipulation of the criminal justice system.
I am pleasantly surprised to read this. Gracias.
Imagine thinking Bragg is just dispassionately doing his job as a prosecutor and happens to be pursuing this case against Trump because he genuinely is concerned a "crime" happened.
Good grief.
Peole who believe that? Like Jeffy, Mod, Pluggo, etc.? Hell, even that drunken idiot Sarc doesn’t really buy that.
"That likelihood suggests the conspiracy that Trump portrays, which supposedly involves Special Counsel Jack Smith and Fulton County, Georgia, District Attorney Fani Willis as well as Bragg, is much clumsier than he suggests."
Not really sure what the point is here. It is a matter of public record that Fani Willis met with someone at the White House prior to filing charges. And it would be silly to suggest that Smith does not discuss his proposed prosecutions with the regime. There is at the very least prima facia evidence that these individuals "conspired" to prosecute Trump. But I'm not convinced that Trump is claiming some vast conspiracy of all of the jurisdictions prosecuting him. He is claiming that he is the victim of multiple lawfare prosecutions by prosecutors driven by political motivations. That much seems self evident to me. That the conspiracy is "clumsy" is also self evident. Take a look at the Fani hearing in GA yesterday.
It's amazing how many are still saying that questioning the relationship between Wade and Willis is because she's black and a woman. Please, any defense lawyer, being given this information, who didn't use it to challenge the case should be disbarred for malpractice.
Seems like it might be time to file criminal suits against the intel experts calling the Hunter laptop story Russian information.
And for the Russia collusion hoax.
Ditto the media.
Criminal charges all around.
So which prosecutor would be brave enough to file charges?
Texas AG?
Perhaps Trump should appoint someone like Ken Paxton as our next AG. Then he can fire every DoJ attorney and replace them all with non democrats from outside the beltway.
No wonder the establishment is so terrified of Trump. They should be.
Since he would be going up against the Clinton Machine he'd have to be an only child, single and both parents dead so they couldn't get leverage on him. He'd also have to have balls of steel since we all know Hillary would be on the phone to the Suicide Hotline to place an order.
Per the Russian medical establishment, the scientific term is "Sudden Death Syndrome".
Yeah, some guy decides to mug him and winds up shooting him forgetting to take the watch, wallet and other pricey gadgets. Or he goes for a long drive in the country, parks along side the road and pokes into the dark water and gets eaten by a gator. Like you do.
Yet if he had paid off Stormy with campaign funds, you can bet he would have faced charges of misusing campaign funds for a personal expense. It's damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Funny how prominent democrat scumbag didn’t go to prison for doing just that. But then he wasn’t Trump.
Who wrote this article, and what did you do with that TDS-addled shit Sullum?
“The essence of the case, the Manhattan D.A. says, is that Trump "corrupt[ed] a presidential election" by concealing embarrassing information.”
So Biden, the DNC, and the liberal media should be charged with trying to conceal embarrassing information about Biden?
Very great point!
Come now, that’s (D)ifferent.
The entire DNC controlled media should be charged with serial violations of election law for presenting phony ‘news broadcasts that are undisclosed campaign speech. And since these are ongoing criminal enterprises, RICO attaches.
I can make a legitimate case for that, unlike every single case against Trump.
With Jacob Sullen's assistance, this was my first read of "Reason.com" and it will be my last. This nonsense appeared on my Start Page and I blocked Reason.com permanently. Sullen tried to make a case that it was permissible for Don Trump to violate New York Campaign Finance law by separating the payments to avoid reporting requirements but that it was impermissible for New York to charge each of these frauds as a separate count. That was more than enough for me. Go find a new gig Slocumb.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Seethe more.
Stuff your TDS up your ass, steaming pile of TDS-addled shit.
What I find funny is all of these charges are the kind that make folks in flyover country like him more. He lied to banks? Fuck, we do that all the time. He fought hard to prove his opponent cheated? We ain't so fond of cheaters ourselves. He slept around with beautiful women? Well, I wouldn't kick any of his women out of bed for eating crackers.
They want conservative leaning folks to hate him they need to fake drug tests showing he smokes weed. Then they'd jump ship and leave him hanging.
Members of the [Na]tional So[zi]alist party continue their BS witch-hunt against US patriots because the Nazi party has to win control by any means necessary to continue their UN-Constitutional Nazi Regime building in the US.
The real question is will Donald Trump take this case seriously? His decisions and demeaner at recent trials have not help him win any cases. This will be a felony conviction. Will he serve time, I doubt it, but he may not even be able to vote for himself in November. So, see if he quiets down and listens to his lawyers.
It’s not a serious case.
It is a serious case because Donald Trump could come out of it with a felony conviction. We have seen that judges and juries do not have a lot of tolerance for Trump and his lawyers horse play in the courtroom. The Jean Carroll case was weak, but Ms. Carroll won. She won with two different juries. So, Trump is taking a chance if he choses to not take the hush money case seriously.
What jury could they set who could even begin to understand what the issues of law they are ruling on? Anyone on the jury who understands the charges will agree that it's bullshit. I doubt the prosecutor will let anyone with higher than a room temperature IQ on the jury.
Disrespecting the jury, great way to start your defense. Despite all that you read here or elsewhere Alvin Bragg will present a case to the jury. The DA case must be refuted and shown to be wrong. If the defense fails to refute or wanders off on some tangent, they stand a good chance to lose the case.
A jury is not made up of one's peers, it is made up of people too stupid to be able to talk their way out of jury duty. As such not a one of them will understand the judges instructions much less the extremely complex nature of the crimes in question and how the prosecutor is claiming Trump violated these laws. They will be lucky to understand how to dress themselves.
Democrat juries are entitled to disrespect by default. The Trump cases are proving that in real time.
The Jean Carroll case was the one where they couldn’t possibly prove a crime was committed but changed the law so a civil suit could proceed right? Yeah, sorry, that wasn’t any more credible than Blase-Ford.
Just because Democrat lemmings lap this shit up doesn’t mean the rest of us have to take court cases that are obvious bullshit as gospel truth.
You do realize a civil case just needs a majority whereas criminal cases needs all 12 to vote guilty. Just one voting not guilty and guess what, no conviction. Dumbass.
The civil case jury was smaller and a felony case trial in NY will require 12 with alternates. So, more to convince and anyone could hang the jury. I am not aware that the civil case juries were not unanimous in their findings and in the damages case the decision was made quite quickly. My point still stands that DA Alvin Bragg will present a case that must then be refuted. I thought the defense was sloppy in refuting the Carroll case and the recent fraud case and that sloppiness unseriousness was why the plaintiffs won.
The Prosecutors case does not require refuting. The prosecutor must prove a crime was committed. Even Donald Trump has the right of innocent until PROVEN guilty. Not as the left would prefer guilty until proven innocent.
His defense is the same defense all criminal defendants have. The state must prove a crime was committed and that Donald Trump committed that crime. The prosecutors case is so convoluted and bizarre the jury won't understand what the crime was much less the supposed proof that Trump committed said crime.
The best that you can hope is the jury is 12 hard core Democrat voters who would convict a ham sandwich if a Republican made it. The more the prosecutor tries to jigger the jury the more likely an appeal will overturn any guilty verdict.
So, you suggestion to Trump's lawyer is to offer nothing just say the DA hasn't proven the case? Will that work?
If the jury is made of loyal idiotic democrats it won't make any difference. His lawyers are probably preparing the appeal instead of bothering with any real trial prep.
He not doing well on appeals either.
Mod, it doesn’t matter. The judges, and juries ( in the cases where there are actually juries) are all corrupt democrats who don’t believe in the rule of law. Democrats just like you.
So, all the cases I read about in the paper conviction for robbery, murder, embezzlement, these are all BS because the court system just doesn't work.
Considering how many people convicted of crimes are later found innocent by the efforts of law school students I'd say yes, most of them are probably bad convictions.
Juries are composed of people too stupid to get out of jury duty and they typically rubber stamp what the prosecutor wants.
Prosecutors typically plea bargain most of their guilty verdicts, a process that invariably winds up imprisoning the poor and middle class who can't afford lawyers.
If the defendant is a political enemy of democrats, then yes. And it isn’t just NYC. DC is even worse. Your kind are lawless Marxist zealots who do not believe in the rule of law.
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"Bragg claims Trump unlawfully interfered with the 2016 presidential election by hiding information that might have turned voters against him."
Gee, Jake, if I didn't know better, I might even think that you were, you know, lying, to cover Donald Trump's ass. Your "statement" of the charges against Trump is entirely incorrect, as you are probably well aware.
Here's a summary offered by Karen Friedman Agnifilo, a former Manhattan chief assistant district attorney, and Norman Eisen, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, that appeared in the New York Times under the headline "We Finally Know the Case Against Trump, and It Is Strong", on April 4, 2023:
"The charge of creating false financial records is constantly brought by Mr. Bragg and other New York D.A.s. In particular, the creation of phony documentation to cover up campaign finance violations has been repeatedly prosecuted in New York."
Were you ever a Manhattan chief assistant district attorney, Jake? I can't remember. This is why I don't subscribe to Reason--because you sometimes have an unattractive habit of lying to your readers.
Oooh, the Brookings Institute. I am duly impressed.
Really.
Totally so.
Absolutely.
"...Gee, Jake, if I didn’t know better, I might even think that you were, you know, lying, to cover Donald Trump’s ass..."
Jeeze, asshole, if I didn't know better, I might not understand you are a fucking TDS-addled pile of shit.
So is he going to bring the same charges against the 51 intelligence and security figures who claimed in 2020 that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation? That too is "concealing information that could have affected the election".
Oh, wait. Those were Democrats. An entirely different set of laws applies to Democrats.
I’m no fan of Trump, but I don’t think democrats should be waging lawfare against him. It really does set a bad precedent.
I worry that anyone can be targeted by a prosecutor, and digging through law books, a “crime” can be found to charge the person. It’s both dubious and obvious when a prosecutor declares his intent to find a crime to target an individual while running for office.
I’m not seeing any reason to pursue this charge against Trump. The simple defense that he loves his wife and doesn’t want her to have to live through the circus that is the intent of finding a Stormy Daniels and paying her expenses while making scurrilous charges against Trump.
Believe him or not, you can’t prove his motives were anything other.
Plus, Daniels was already on the record, as late as 2015, giving interviews about her alleged affair with Trump. I don’t see how buying her silence would somehow make her already public claims disappear.
This is one of several interviews from well before even the primaries.
https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/stormy-daniels-full-interview-151788/
I worry that anyone can be targeted by a prosecutor, and digging through law books, a “crime” can be found to charge the person.
We've been there for quite awhile now. There's a book called Three Felonies a Day, by Harvey Silvergate that goes into detail on how the criminal code is so vast that most people commit three felony-level crimes every day without even knowing it.
"The legally and morally dubious charges against Trump, ... which stem from hush money"
It's really ridiculous that you legitimately have to specify WHICH legally and morally dubious charges against Trump, because there are so many to pick from.
Cohen went to prison for his part of this not-a-crime.
Among Garland's many failures as AG is the failure to prosecute Cohen's unindicted co-conspirator.
According to Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, you must reveal everything that is potentially uncomfortable otherwise it's a crime. Of course, there is a double standard where this only applies to Donald Trump and Republicans. It perfectly fine and expected for Democrats to hide their uncomfortable skeletons.
I don't even like Donald Trump, have never nor ever will vote for "Orange Man", but this is all getting ridiculous. It seems that the anti-Trump movement is guilt of everything that they accuse Donald Trump of. Democrats are saving "Democracy" by utterly destroying it.