Prediction: 2024 Will See Deadly Political Violence in the Streets
And there's still time left in 2023, the way things are going lately in New York.

Several hundred pro-Palestinian street demonstrators in midtown Manhattan Sunday afternoon attempted to "cancel Christmas" by massing in front of Rockefeller Center, St. Patrick's Cathedral, and Fox News, hoisting a Nativity Scene marred with fake blood, and carrying signs with messages such as, "From NY to Gaza, Globalize the Intifada."
In videos shared widely online, ceasefire advocates scuffled physically with police, reportedly injuring at least one NYPD officer, and sustaining some injuries themselves.
????#BREAKING: NYPD Calls for Level Three Mobilization Amidst Numerous Fights Between Pro-Palestine Protesters and Police at a Large Protest⁰
????#Manhattan l #NewYorkCurrently, the New York Police Department has requested a Level Three mobilization for a large protest that is… pic.twitter.com/j2ZAUvERF3
— R A W S A L E R T S (@rawsalerts) December 25, 2023
The New York Post reports "at least six" arrests have been made, and none of the injuries appear life-threatening. So far.
The United States, as it stumbles into another cursed presidential election year, is lurching toward deadly political violence in the streets without appearing to give the matter much in the way of organized thought. Protesters in big Democratic cities routinely block bridges, freeways, and transit hubs, with cops often standing idly by while normie commuters reach the boiling point. Angry crowds are targeting government officials' homes, including those of Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin and National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan on Christmas morning. There has been violence outside of Democratic Party headquarters, violence outside the Museum of Tolerance, and at least one death resulting from a street clash, for which an allegedly counter-protesting assailant has been charged with involuntary manslaughter and battery causing serious injury.
Republicans, meanwhile, are backing by more than 50 percentage points in national polls a presidential candidate who in his Christmas message said that no world leaders "are as evil and 'sick' as the THUGS we have inside our Country…looking to destroy our once great USA." ("MAY THEY ROT IN HELL," he added.) Nearly three years after egging on a chaotic and deadly Capitol Hill riot on election-certification day via conspiracy-fantasia and political scapegoating, the former president has not changed his tune, even while facing two criminal prosecutions tied to his shabby conduct on January 6, 2021. So far, 884 of his supporters have been convicted of crimes (with often over-zealous sentencing, in my view) for their actions connected with that foul day.
This is a sickly state of public affairs, and there's still three weeks to go until the Iowa caucuses.
Though rumors of our incipient civil war are routinely exaggerated, Americans do tend to get excitable during the presidential season. With a journalistic establishment, however waning, already in full hyperbole-production mode; with the biggest third-party challenger in three decades strafing conspiracy theories in every direction; and—always underrated!—with a Democratic Party from the president on down mimicking Trump about the opposition seeking to "destroy" the country, we would be facing a grisly 44 weeks even without the unenforced errors of our most consequentially lousy political year, 2020.
It's been largely memory-holed now, but the same parts of Manhattan that have suffered street clashes this fall were, in November 2020, pre-emptively boarded up. Not because people feared a re-elected Trump might go all Sen. Tom Cotton (R–Ark.) on Gotham, but rather the contrary—that the Biden+70 island of Manhattan might greet a second term the way so many reacted to unpleasant news that spring and summer: by rioting.
We will likely never fully understand the granular details of George Floyd's adjudged murder at the hands of Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, let alone wrap our heads around the subsequent decompression-explosions in policing, protest, race relations, media, COVID-19 policy, and much else besides. What we do know is that for tens of millions of Americans, the streets went from eerily quiet to angrily boisterous nearly overnight; that police staffing and crowd-management latitude were curtailed sharply; that violent crime in several cities spiked; and that Trump went from a candidate campaigning on the FIRST STEP Act to threatening to unleash on protesters "the unlimited power of our Military and many arrests."
It was an awful lot, in a short period of time already deranged incalculably by COVID and the response thereof. On the other side of it were a reported 19 deaths, 14,000 arrests, more than $1 billion in property damage, and lasting damage to the phrase "mostly peaceful." Whatever policy reforms and rollbacks, and results thereof, that tumbled forth, there was nothing resembling a shared national understanding about the dangers of political violence and physical vandalism, or what exactly law enforcement (or other government authority) should do in the face of public disorder.
And now we are here. Is there, to flog a dog-eared term, some hard-to-visualize path toward de-escalation? Can we keep the public square free of both citizen violence and law-enforcement abuse? Is the whole country destined to end up like Portland, Oregon, just waiting until the next straight-up street murder? Gloomy thoughts for a murky year.
Right and left, stretching back years, and in different matters of degree, have both succumbed to an apocalyptic populism that almost demands rhetorical escalation whenever conditions worsen or appear to. If your starting point is that Gaza pre-October 6 was an open-air concentration camp, that immigrants pre-2024 were "poisoning the blood of our country," that Trump pre-primary season is deliberately mining Hitler for speechwriting tips, then painting your hands a symbolic blood-red before screaming in the face of baby-murderers almost begins to make sense.
But it shouldn't. That's where those of us on the sidelines may have a role. Just because the political class sneezes doesn't mean the rest of us are obliged to catch a cold. We can insist on factual journalism and fair-minded analysis despite the worst efforts of "misinformation reporters." We can encourage loved ones to maybe not go scream slogans in politicians' driveways, or make blanket disparaging statements in public based on the group characteristics of strangers. And, unless we actually enjoy watching certain confrontational behaviors get repeated, we can gently suggest that no ragbag group of 500 protesters be given the potency to shut a great city down.
As worrying as these past months have felt, they've still got nothing on the 1970s when it comes to political violence, let alone violence-violence. Those of us old enough to remember those days are generally in no hurry to get back. The fever will break, eventually, I swear. No time better than the present.
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I think, at this point, it seems to be a given that we may see actual political violence. My prediction: it will happen should the Democrat for President lose to the Republican (at this point, Trump), and Democrats throw a massive temper tantrum over it.
I'd be willing to say it seems plausible, should things like the Colorado Trump decision stand, and be widely emulated. That seems like something people on "the right" might decide had broken the premise of democracy.
The summer of BLM riots was actual political violence conducted by progressives.
Burning down cities doesn't count. The real problem was people walking around the capitol and watching FBI agents break a couple of windows and watch the somehow innocent Ray Epps call for insurrection.
Welch is against political violence in the streets. He prefers it be handled through wedding massacres.
I just read the courts trying to convict him of anything want to deny him the defense of reality. That the democrats stole the election, have conspired to destroy him before he was elected and after he has stepped down. All that is being rules as conspiracy theory and thus not fit for use in a court.
Why don't they just shoot him instead of waste time with this kangaroo court? That's the only way they will be happy anyhow.
It appears they're trying to avoid that because they know what the reaction would be, but if all else fails...
I wonder if they will even be able to seat a jury. Finding a dozen folks who haven't already formed an opinion could be tough.
Finding 12 people willing to lie about having formed an opinion shouldn't be hard.
Lest we forget, the democrat party national convention will be in Chicago again this year.
1968 all over again.
RFK Sr and MLK Jr were assassinated that year. Lets pray 24 doesn't repeat 68.
If Trump wins the deep state has another card to play.
In 1968 the political violence was grassroots. Today the political violence is planned, directed, and funded by professionals, and so it has the potential to be much worse and much more damaging.
The Democrats have been playing with fire for a very long time now. It is not coincidence that the left-wing violence has been confined to the large blue cities where the "protestors" know that nothing bad will happen to them. They continued to push their agenda against increasing resistance on the right, and then act surprised when the long-delayed reaction finally results. It's almost as if they were - literally - the kid playing with matches when the house catches fire and burns down around him. Maybe they didn't really mean it when they chanted, "By Any Means Necessary" at least not for their sociopolitical opponents.
If Trump is imprisoned next year, there will be massive civil unrest or even civil war. And there probably won't be an election.
It is likely Trump will be convicted more than once and sentenced to confinement, although he might get the leniency of an ankle bracelet rather than a prison cell.
His character-deprived fans will whine and whimper, and even a bluster a bit, but that's nothing new. If a few of them decide to go "the full LaVoy," it won't matter much (beyond accelerating their replacement).
Actually, I will be thrilled to see Mr. President Trump cut the NEW DOJ loose on the entire Democratic Domestic Terrorist Operation while at the same time naming a Special Prosecutor to go after the entire Biden Crime Enterprise. I also bought extra Jiffy Pop to enjoy while the SCOTUS declares that these imbecilic and corrupt political prosecutions aimed at DJT have been nothing more than criminal acts of election interference. It usually happens in life dear friend that sooner or later, what goes around...comes around.
what goes around…comes around
Wishful thinking unsupported by facts in evidences.
Depends on your source of "facts". The conspiracy theorists have been on the ball lately.
Na, they'll have one, but it will be like elections in China and Russia...only one candidate on the ballot.
now u are sounding like New York or Illinois.
Anyone who engages in civil war because of Trump and on behalf of Trump has absolutely no intellect.
“Just accept the fact we will cheat and steal to retain control of the country.”
Go fuck yourself.
Nah, you can go fuck yourself for advocating lunatic concepts to justify the retarded concept of having a civil war. Especially over a complete narcissist moron like Trump.
As opposed to a bunch of shitbag totalitarian Marxist democrats trying to establish permanent one party rule? Would that perhaps be motivation enough for you?
Tell you what. Let’s get rid of the democrats, and then a civil war won’t be necessary
But you, we can rest assured, will never do shit.
He talks big, but never posts any scalp pix.
The people who will do shit don't post here. Or anywhere. They sit in coffee shops quietly discussing what's likely to happen and what counters may be needed. They don't have large groups, more like two or three at most and they don't advertise. When the SHTF they will simply do. Not talk about it. So you're sort of right. Odds are CHUD isn't in one of those pairs because he posts here and knows the FBI has him on a list.
But he gets trouble makers to out themselves and lurkers who never post a word take notes on people like you. Decide if you are a real problem and come the SHTF someone near you will deal with the problem. That is, if you're any kind of serious threat, which odds are you aren't.
Both parties demand one party rule. They always have. They always will. I mean, your comment is literally engaging in the same thing. The system can account for it. Arguing for a civil war over it is just beyond retarded.
"Both parties demand one party rule.."
You.
Are.
Full
of.
Shit.
Was going to mention this is a result of a raging case of TDSS in an otherwise normal human being, but then this shit-pile has never posted anything whicch would suggest that's the case.
fuck off and die, asshole.
Do not argue. You're arguing with a troll that has the intellect of a squirrel and will always be ruled by better men than himself.
The idea that, after Afghanistan, after Russiagate, the "conspiracy" against Whitmer, and several other FBI and other hoaxes, after COVID, after successive iterations of Agenda 2030/BBB/GND, after BLM/Antifa... that this has anything to do with Trump is evidence of either cannon fodder or a social/physical/political non-combatant. This person will either take up arms and, by virtue of their belief system, raise their value to that of, maybe, a couple of bullets or they will continue to remain less valuable than one.
Not a troll, you just don't like what I say. I'm not a psychotic lunatic like you. I'd rather engage substantively with issues as opposed to screaming and crying about needing a civil war. But go on and have fun playing "patriot" on the keyboard. It's so tired anymore it's actually quite entertaining.
Not a troll, a fucking lefty ignoramus.
So election fraud and jailing political opposition (candidates and supporters) based off phony charges is just fine with you? Because that is where we are Trump or not.
Stay silent IS and look on proudly as evil triumphs because you did that.
"Evil triumphs because [I] did that?" Man, the hysteric and hyperbolic verbiage that has become so commonplace in politics is just astounding to me.
Your own contributions to the flood of hysteric and hyperbolic verbiage included?
Ask the asshole about his raging case of TDS.
What about those who engage in civil war to regain control over the out-of-control government, regardless of Trump? The American Revolution (1775-1783) was launched with far less provocation than the Democratic National Committee, aided and abetted by the Republican National Committee of course, has perpetrated.
"Democrats throw a massive temper tantrum over it."
Let's look at the last two elections. In 2016 we had a Democrat lose and not only was there no violence over it, the losing candidate didn't mount a massive extrajudicial campaign to deny they lost. In 2020 we had a Republican lose and that loser egged on his followers until they formed a violent mob and smashed their way into the Capitol. Given past history, it isn't the Ds who are likely to get violent if they lose.
Plus the Trump supporters start out much more angry than Biden supporters. Plus conspiratorial, whiny, and deluded, but the rage is what leads to violence.
MAGAs, just like Trump, are excellent at projection. They falsely accuse others of doing what they themselves do.
lmao... Either your both being sarcastic or your both projecting like nobodies business. "not only was there no violence"? WTF??? The streets were on fire about Trump winning that election and the rage has just grown from there.
The streets were on fire, eh? Weird that it wasn't covered.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_My_Presidents_Day
Holy crap your ignorance has a life of it's own.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/19/politics/trump-inauguration-protests-womens-march/index.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/inauguration-anti-donald-trump-protesters-smash-windows-clash-washington-dc-police-ceremony-a7538031.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/violent-anti-trump-protests-try-to-steal-spotlight-on-inauguration-day-859451971661
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/01/20/donald-trump-inauguration-day-protests-editorials-debates/96846822/
Yes, the coordinated efforts to overturn a free and fair election by the candidate who lost and a violent mob, gathered by that same losing candidate, smashing their way into the Capitol is exactly the same as small acts of vandalism by random groups.
Are you really so biased that you can't see the vast difference between Jan. 6th and your examples? Are you really that incapable of understanding the vast difference in scale?
Are you really so biased and stupid that you see the Jan. 6 disturbance as part of a "coordinated effort() to overturn a free and fair election", and the organized nationwide riots in response to Trump's inauguration as insignificant and isolated acts of vandalism?
More importantly, please tell us exactly how your fantasy would come about.
No, they just ginned up the phony Russia collision lie and undermined Trump's presidency that way.
Yeah, I remember how republicans were burning down American cities in 2020.
Fucking liar.
No, they just violently smashed their way into the Capitol and tried to stop the certification of an election Trump lost.
And I guess I missed the part where protests about Trump's election resulted in "burning down American cities". Probably because it didn't happen.
They have to stick to huge delusions about their side being the good guys so they can sleep at night. They have to keep psychic themselves up that YOU are the NAZI and they are such big damn heroes punching you out.
Wrong,
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-inauguration-protests-idUSKBN1540J7/
OK, see if you can follow me here: those people should have been arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Now tell me about Jan. 6th and the violent rioters at the Capitol.
But they were not prosecuted. They were balied out by Democrats in public office so they could return to rioting. They were given pansy ass convictions, very few felonies.
Why should the protestors at the capital have expected such a different outcome since they weren't setting things on fire or hitting old men in the face with bike locks?
"But they were not prosecuted."
and
"They were given pansy ass convictions, very few felonies."
Make up your mind. It seems like you don't know where you want your goalposts to be.
"Why should the protestors at the capital"
You mean the violent rioters who smashed their way into the Capitol? They weren't protesters or tourists. They were a violent mob. They deserved everything they got. Actually, they deserved more.
In a perfect world there would have been a bunch more Ashli Babbitts. The world would be a better place if the defenders hadn't shown such restraint.
Prosecuted would mean they were charged with the felonies they committed and submitted to the judgment of a jury. They were charged with petty misdemeanors and summarily given community service and time served plea bargains.
As for you beating the dead horse of violent rioters who exactly were they violent upon? Cops came out without any injuries. Legislators weren't injured. There were surprising few injuries and little property damage for it to be called a riot much less an insurrection.
Compare even the carefully edited video of the Jan 6th protest with the video of the CHAZ riots. If you still think the Jan 6th protest was a real riot after that then you are hopelessly deluded.
Actually, the left and the right are steeped in temper tantrums and horrible behavior. This game you are playing of "my team is better than your team" is becoming so tired and played out because both teams act like shit. It's a race to the bottom and everyone is losing because of it. Hysteria is met with hysteria. Terrible governmental abuses are met with terrible governmental abuses. Violence is met with violence.
And this all happens while each points at the other and accuses the other for doing the same things. The lack of self-awareness and situational awareness/understanding in modern political discourse is off the charts and the main problem that we face in this country.
Actually, you're full of shit. Fuck off and die.
Although I know you enjoy immunity from reality by totally ignoring the over 700 violent and occasionally deadly BLM and Antifa riots in response to Trump's election as President, some of us won't let you get away with it. Return to your echo chamber forthwith, or I will taunt you a second time!
https://www.ibtimes.com/donald-trump-elected-president-riots-break-out-university-campuses-after-republicans-2443978
"From NY to Gaza, Globalize the Intifada."
Welp, they can try and end up ventilated in any place that allows even the slightest amount of open or concealed carry. Crossbows work for this purpose too, and more quietly.
Protesters in big Democratic cities routinely block bridges, freeways, and transit hubs, with cops often standing idly by while normie commuters reach the boiling point.
Welp, those protesters who block people's way and vandalize doors and windows and threaten motorists can end up cow-catchered--with or without the cow-catcher on the vehicle!
What can you do (legally) if a mob surrounds your car
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A_PR5RaDE38
What to do if protesters surround your car
https://personalliberty.com/protestors-surround-car/
A nonviolent way to get protestors to let you through is to tell them you have to get to the hospital to be with your kid who just had gender affirming surgery.
And any attempt to stop you will result in 1st degree misgendering charges. A capital offense under the Biden regime.
I'm looking into automotive-based on-board LRAD devices that would send out sub-sonic sound waves that would render the rabble into an ear-plugging, screaming, vertigo-spun, nauseated mass if they stay around too close.
They think everhthing pro-freedom is a "dog whistle" for something bad. Wait'll they get a load of LRAD!
🙂
😉
That's actually a good idea. Protecting your ride is logical since these asshats like to block traffic and try to drag people out of cars best to hit them when they think they have the upper hand.
But only from the fanatical partisans that the gov has duped. Listen folks, your neighbor is not your enemy, your government is.
The gov is encouraging civil war by constantly dividing and polarizing us, and this is because they know they deserve a revolution. So they pit us against each other squabbling over stupid shit like abortion. Who gaf if you’re under totalitarian control numb nuts?
When has a government ever incited a civil war against itself? Are you okay?
For all you know, my neighbor is calling for my guns to be seized, is calling for me to be forcibly jabbed, is calling for people to be executed out of convenience on the taxpayer's dime, is calling for my kids to be sexualized without my knowledge and against my will.
Why do you and others like you continue to consider or believe and or present this as though the status quo of liberty has not been obviously and progressively diminished especially in recent history? Do you think I or everyone else is retarded?
Oh, so you're not predicting the election will be stolen "again"? Why not?
Ah yes, of course Welch is here to tell us how Trump is as bad as all of the actions BLM took.
I wonder if the supposed "Antifascists" will be surprised when they push too far and end up mowed down in the streets they attempt to claim dominion over.
Reality check: young men in black shirts engaging in street violence for political objectives is NOT anti fascism.
The last two months have seen crowds of young men in the US breaking the windows of Jewish businesses and attacking (and in one instance killing) Jews for being Jewish. But this isn't antisemitism or Kristallnacht all over again, because this was Democrats rather than MAGA, so it was just high spirits and passion.
Meanwhile, as Kemjeff explained the other day, the real problem is Musk liking a comment that excoriated ADL leadership, or that Trump maybe-possibly-might own a book that analyzed Hitler speeches, or a local Republican fundraiser inviting an insensitive podcaster to his dinner party.
That's the real antisemitism. Not Democrat rioters attacking Jews for being Jewish.
Young men in black shirts engaging in violence to shut down speech and force the populace to adhere to government doctrine is straight up fascism.
It's something the Fascists and Nazis learned from Communism. The truly BIG lie of the last hundred years was that Fascism and Communism are anything but sister branches of the same violent and exploitative movement.
God humans are so fucking dumb. We deserve what’s coming
During COVID lockdowns, it was laughable to see Antifa taking to the streets to counter-protest the people who were protesting government actions and force...Antifa called them fascists...people openly protesting the government...called fascists...by Blackshirt troops determined to enforce the government's demands on their fellow citizens...
Indeed; nothing but self-projection at its finest. The left has literally been taken over with it. As-if running around calling opponents Nazi's while they pride themselves on being [Na]tional So[zi]alist[s] wasn't a dead give-away.
But that shit was all sanctioned by the gov. We all know the riots and the misbehavior would come to a quick end if the gov wanted to shut it down. But they allowed it to continue, rolling out their demonstrations to every major city.
Although I detest Trump and all he stands for - at least as far as I can even figure out what he stands for - it is disingenuous to target the one political figure who has actually stood up to and - so far - faced down the "swamp" he claimed he wanted to drain. He routinely embarrasses the people who are the real problem in the deterioration of American tolerance and liberty. I love watching them squirm.
If you don't know what he stands for, research his actions when he was president.
(maybe use a search engine other than Google)
I'm going to defend MWAocdoc on this one. Trump's actions when he was president were too inconsistent to really figure out what he stood for (much less, to figure out if that's what he still stands for). The only consistent position I can find is a desire to reduce administrative power but even that has gaps.
- Rapproachment with North Korea.
- The Abraham Accords.
- Negotiated a withdrawal with the Taliban.
- The Serbia/Kosovo peace deal.
- Moved the American Embassy to Jerusalem.
- Renegotiated NAFTA as the USMCA.
His foreign policy pretty obvious.
His domestic less so because of the continuous lawfare from le "résistance", and fighting off a phony impeachment for wanting to investigate Biden's bribery racket.
Trump was conned by authoritarian leaders like Putin, Kim, etc. His negotiation style was to take the easy route leaving larger problem unsolved and coming back later. He negotiated with Taliban but left out Afghan government, creating the situation that would lead to chaos during the withdrawal. Similarly for the Abraham Accords which left out Palestinian problem that is now happening. Similar USMCA was more a renaming of NAFTA than anything else.
Trump was conned by authoritarian leaders like Putin, Kim, etc"
How was he "conned", you fucking moron? What was he "conned" about? You always make these retarded allegations without ever providing a shred of evidence that what you allege even happened.
"He negotiated with Taliban but left out Afghan government, creating the situation that would lead to chaos during the withdrawal."
Except that's not fucking true at all. You're flat out lying. Everyone here can remember three years ago. Who do you imagine you're tricking?
Trump did involve both the Afghan government and the Taliban and all parties had agreed. And the chaos was created by Biden abandoning the plans and then unilaterally withdrawing without even telling allies like the British and the Dutch.
In fact Biden's conduct in the Afghanistan pull out was so shitty he became the first American president censured by the UK parliament ever!
You've posted a lot of stupid lies here before, Mendacity4ever, but this was one of the dumbest.
Trump did leave out the Afghan government, to get the withdrawl agreement.
See
https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/568154-trumps-deal-with-the-taliban-set-the-stage-for-the-afghan-collapse/
As for the British Parliament it condemned both President Biden and its own PM Johnson. And that condemnation held no real consequences.
Stop trying to excuse Biden’s fuck up. It isn’t in question no matter how hard you and your fellow travelers try to revise history.
"Trump did leave out the Afghan government, to get the withdrawal agreement."
You and your David Schanzer article are being deliberately and purposefully deceitful here. The Afghanistan government was involved with Trump's withdrawal plans.
Schanzer and you are trying to pretend that the ceasefire agreement between the Trump administration and the Taliban was the same thing as the withdrawal agreement which they emphatically were not.
The withdrawal was negotiated with the Afghan government. It was Biden who turfed both agreements.
Fucking idiot liar.
"British Parliament it condemned both President Biden and its own PM Johnson."
They didn't censure Johnson along with him you lying fuck. They criticized Johnson for not telling Biden to fuck himself .
"And that condemnation held no real consequences."
What, did you expect the British to arrest him? What else could they do aside from issue an unprecedented condemnation?
Your excuses are like a five-year-old's.
Oh please, revisionist history from the propaganda machine?
Withdrawl agreement. What in your convoluted bidenesque brain cell (singular intended) is withdrawl. Better go back behind the shed for some of that sweet “corn poonl”. Sheesh, embarrassing to be you -sl
Yeah, he is an idiot. Thanks for saving me the time. He spews so much idiotic, unsupported bullshit. And many outright lies.
Feminine males hate Trump and cannot help proclaiming their distaste
"Rapproachment with North Korea"
Why would anyone think that was a good thing?
"The Abraham Accords."
An "accomplishment" that has resulted in absolutely nothing. Other than putting Jared Kushner in front of the Saudis to arrange for a $2 billion investment for his private benefit.
"Negotiated a withdrawal with the Taliban"
Also a complete failure.
"The Serbia/Kosovo peace deal"
Which was so successful that there has been peace ever since ... just kidding! It didn't even make it to its first anniversary.
"Moved the American Embassy to Jerusalem"
Why is this a success?
"Renegotiated NAFTA as the USMCA"
Putting new wrapping on the same agreement is a really low bar for a "success".
"His foreign policy pretty obvious"
Yeah, completely ineffective.
Unless you think this is a list of impressive accomplishments? If so, you're easily impressed.
What a miserable lying shitbag you are.
It’s just pathetic. But watch him defend Biden and act like he hasn’t set the world on fire.
Democrats really have no right to exist.
Why would I defend Biden? He isn't a very good President. He benefits from being vastly superior to his predecessor, but that doesn't make him any better.
When you're in the bottom 1/3 of Presidents in history, it helps that the guy you beat was in the bottom 5.
Which part do you think is a lie? Or are you just angry because no one says, "Ooooh! Remember the Abraham Accords? Trump brought peace to the Middle East!". Probably because it was a pathetic failure, like all of his foreign policy.
Unless you judge by the financial windfalls that came to his family. By that metric he was a roaring success.
Not impressed. And I’m not convinced trump will be able to come up with a way to not be rag dolled like he was last term. Like, what’s he really gonna do different that’s gonna mean anything?
You mean like all the big-talking tough guys on this forum?
They don't just get rag dolled, they get sex dolled.
No, fuck-face, we're just watching piles of shit like you attempt any lie you can to foward your ragging case of TDS.
Fuck off and die.
Not really sure Trump did anything to reduce administrative power, he seems to want more. What he seems to object to was administrators, who were accountable to the law, that keep him from doing his will.
"he seems to want more"
Oh look, the living parody is here. Do you want to leave this as a nebulous accusation as usual, or will you explain what you mean with an example.
Want more my ass. I remember 2020 and how Trump for the most part, did not assume the type of emergency powers that other presidents had.
He was even criticized for not being dictatorial enough by the same people who criticized him as being a dictator.
He was even criticized for not being dictatorial enough by the same people who criticized him as being a dictator.
Exactly. I found that one amusingly ironic when you compare him to Democrat governors like Pritzker, Whitmer, Newsom, Murphy, Inslee, and more. All of the above did everything in their power to be dictators, and didn't give up their emergency power easily nor early.
Very great point!
Who said I didn't know what he stood for? I was pointing out all the things left that I wasn't sure of after trying to sort them out from the massive verbal diarrhea he has never stopped emitting.
It's quite obvious what Trump stands for: Donald Trump.
He's not called the "orange supremacist" for nothing...
Unfortunately, it seems the only thing he really stands for these days is some form of revenge for actions against him, both real and perceived.
That’s not really a solid political base.
Well, if your only goal is to get elected, it's been pretty solid so far! I suspect that was his goal when he first threw his hat into the ring and it's still the only recognizable goal. Unfortunately, that also seems to be the sole goal of his supporters and the GOP too. Since the people they're running against want power so they can keep pushing their socialist agenda further and further, I doubt that there will be any good news for those of us who want smaller, less powerful, less expensive and less intrusive government, and less interventionism around the globe.
"less interventionism" is the one thing President Trump version 1 got an A+ on IMHO. The rest of your points I cannot really argue with But he will get my vote as four years of gridlock, investigations and posturing sounds better than four years of dumb wars and dumb spending. We can't possibly fix it but slowing the death spiral sounds good.
If Biden manages another year without war, he will be doing about the same as Trump. Trump didn't plunge the US into any real wars during his term, but he did massively increase US drone strikes and nearly started a hot war with Iran.
Trump didn't think four years was enough to actually withdraw from Afghanistan, but Biden did withdraw (albeit badly)--surely, he gets credit for actually completing the withdrawal Trump only talked about?
Since Trump is so unpredictable, I wouldn't count on his record of not starting any wars during his first term as any kind of guarantee he wouldn't during his second term. We know he has no problem projecting US military force around the globe (as the drone campaign demonstrates), but maybe if you define "war" as having boots on the ground, he probably wouldn't do that?
Hahahahahahahahaha
During his first run, he repeatedly said Hillary Clinton should be in jail. Then, after he became President, like all dictators do to manage their rivals, he had her imprisoned and then killed. Oh, wait, he did nothing at all to her. He didn't sic the IRS or DOJ or even the FEC on her. He might blather on about his enemy list, but at least we know that last time, that's all he did: blather.
Unlike, say, Joe Biden who has sent or allowed to be sent (in "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?" fashion) virtually every agency in the US Government after Elon Musk. Or Obama's IRS targeting conservative groups (and "joked" about using the IRS on his own enemies...Obama had been refused an honorary doctorate by Arizona State University, and Obama remarked, “President [Michael] Crowe and the Board of Regents will soon learn all about being audited by the IRS.”)
You do realize that was a joke?
"Now, before I begin, I'd just like to clear the air about that little controversy everybody was talking about a few weeks back. I have to tell you, I really thought this was much ado about nothing, but I do think we all learned an important lesson. I learned never again to pick another team over the Sun Devils in my NCAA bracket. (Applause.) It won't happen again. President Crow and the Board of Regents will soon learn all about being audited by the IRS. (Laughter and applause.)
Now, in all seriousness, I come here not to dispute the suggestion that I haven't yet achieved enough in my life. (Laughter.) First of all, Michelle concurs with that assessment. (Laughter.) She has a long list of things that I have not yet done waiting for me when I get home. But more than that, I come to embrace the notion that I haven't done enough in my life; I heartily concur; I come to affirm that one's title, even a title like President of the United States, says very little about how well one's life has been led -- that no matter how much you've done, or how successful you've been, there's always more to do, always more to learn, and always more to achieve. (Applause.)"
A joke in bad taste (for the President to be making it), but obviously, a joke. Please tell me you didn't think he was being serious...
I know it was a "joke" and that in the specific context it was probably a misguided attempt at humor. But several questions arise about a President making this "joke". First, Obama's IRS was at the time embroiled in a political targeting scandal--supposedly "rogue", but who knows?--so that alone ought to have told him not to make such a joke. Second, when a politician makes a "joke" like this, there's always a chance that someone in the administration will hear the joke, think to themselves, "Okay, I can do that." And, a politician might say "Hey, I was just joking," in public, but meant every word of it ("Will no one rid me...").
But yes, it was "A joke in bad taste (for the President to be making it), but obviously, a joke. " Point being that Presidents should not even joke about using the power of the government for personal/political enemy lists.
Works for me. The asshats who he wants revenge on are the exact kind of guys who need a boot up the ass. May as well by Trump's boot. He seems willing enough to weild it.
i think overall he was a good president but he shit the bed on covid and it was bad enough to disqualify him. 1) instituted unconstitutional eviction moratoriums, 2) spent trillions on "covid relief", leading to the inflation we see now, 3) rushed an unnecessary experimental drug to market as a "vaccine" that led to horrible actions by government and bad health outcomes for many. i like many things he did as president, but i will not vote for him in the primary because of his actions on covid.
And that’s precisely why Covid was released on us during trumps term.
Because "they" knew he would fuck it up so badly?
Yes, I see how that could have been predicted...
He made the mistake of listening to the professionals in government. He was advised to take those actions by professional bureaucrats who had a different agenda than Trump.
"has actually stood up to and – so far – faced down the “swamp” he claimed he wanted to drain"
LOLOLOLOLOL! That was the best parody post yet!
As if a brain-damaged pile of shit like you were capable of understanding parody.
"In videos shared widely online, ceasefire advocates scuffled physically with police..."
Ceasefire for thee, but not for me.
Just like their favorite Jordanians.
"When I said I wanted a ceasefire I meant that you should stop shooting back."
To paraphrase Optimus Primal, "when Palastinians talk ceasefire, it just means they need time to reload their weapons."
The progressives and their financial backers only engage in the deadly political violence reluctantly.
They had to do it because the other side refused to understand!!!!
It was mostly peaceful deadly political violence.
They have good intentions when they do.
"Look what you made me do!"
Don't forget strategically.
for which an allegedly counter-protesting assailant has been charged with involuntary manslaughter and battery causing serious injury.
I love the CNN headline linked: "Prosecutors used videos and photos to piece together ‘clear sequence’ of events before fatal injury of pro-Israel protester"
What exactly is a "fatal injury?" Oh, it's just a fatality. A death. Just call it a death, a fatality. This seems like a weird way of softening it: He was injured, but that injury resulted in his death. The guy did not suffer a fatal injury, he suffered a death. He died. He didn't twist his ankle and then trip in front of a semi-truck.
I think they wanted to describe it as a "fatal accident," which is fair; there are car pile-ups that I would describe as fatal accidents all the time. There's gun mishandlings which are fatal accidents, where some idiot wandered downrange or something. But that was a scuffle that turned fatal, not a fatal accident. It was a homicide, even if you don't think it was a murder.
Please feel free to describe what happened, in detail. TIA.
ObvioulsyFullOfShit.
Fuck off and die.
Why do lefty shits select handles which they hope will suggest they are not nearly as fucking dishonest and stupid as they are?
"even while facing two criminal prosecutions tied to his shabby conduct on January 6, 2021."
Time to hang up your "libertarian journalist" hat, Welch. Gloating over an obvious political prosecutions and using them as "evidence" because you think the guy is crass and crude is about as far from libertarian as you can get.
You're heir to the reporters of Pravda and Völkischer Beobachter citing show trials and Kangaroo courts as evidence of the defendants "crimes".
I watched Fall of Minneapolis.
Lord have mercy on us.
The justice system is utterly corrupt and immoral in North America.
Canada is even worse. I've been part of several organizations (one was a provincial government) who have spent upwards of a month shopping venues for court challenges.
My cousin lives in Minneapolis and can see the devastated area from his window. Last I talked to him it's still a scar on the city.
What would you know about what is and is not "libertarian"?
Deadly but mostly peaceful protests.
"That's where those of us on the sidelines may have a role. Just because the political class sneezes doesn't mean the rest of us are obliged to catch a cold. We can insist on factual journalism and fair-minded analysis despite the worst efforts of "misinformation reporters."
Yeah Koch libertarians may have been on the sidelines in 2011 but they had completely joined the progressive team by 2016. Does anyone actually believe that Sullum's screeds have any resemblance to "factual journalism"? Was Ron Bailey's covid coverage "fair-minded analysis"? Does ENB's hyperbolic response to the threat of uncensored speech on Musk's Twitter put her on the sidelines? What are we to make of a publication where the majority of the staff and writers openly or strategically or reluctantly endorse a presidential candidate with a 40 year history of corruption, war mongering and open hostility to individual rights. When can we expect the "libertarian case" for Nikki Haley? How is the Koch funded candidate somehow not as terrifying as RFK Jr.? Reason has pissed away it's libertarian cred. To the extent that it even acknowledges how wrong it is, it's always three years too late. I'm older than you Matt and I've been reading Reason for about as long as you've been writing here. You're making a fool of yourself. Just take your Koch money and get out.
They agree with the central planning of the global economy or the EU/WEF. The only way to save free market capitalism is to destroy capitalism through technological socialism/UBI for migrants or part time baristas, which has morphed into subsidized housing, energy, healthcare, food, water, sewage, education, babysitting and transportation. Add Maoist “jobs” in tech and Obamacare stamping paper. How will the proles afford Silicon Valley electronic products or Hollywood media or Disneyland , NFL channel, Underarmour gym clothing if they are not subsidized?
All of this happens in YOUR backyard. None of this happens in the politicial class vacation bunker hideouts. The violence and mafias the new welfare class brings is a simple calculation on the economy, nothing more. Per capita lives lost or kids sold compared to per capita consumption. Incidentally, see Ireland.
#Subsidizeverything
but open borders, abortion, twitter censorship and sexual mutilaiton of confused kids..you know the "hot" items for Reason...
(with often over-zealous sentencing, in my view)
How dare he contradict what people say about him! Lying bastard!
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I’m not the one who will cry when Trump is convicted. Nor will I cheer when Hunter is convicted.
Back on the booze.
He was never off. A lie he told to up his victim hood.
White Mike: sea lioning
Squirrel: heckler’s veto
Sarc: victim card (appeal to pity)
Jeff: Gish Gallop (argumentum ad tldr)
Misconstrueman: Here to spread nonsense (argumentum ridiculum)
Moderation4ever: moderation in all things but additional government
Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2: iacebat sacci stercore
Rob Misek: Argumentum ad Hitlerum
Look at the losers talking about me. Cute.
^ appeal to pity
He’s such a pussy.
You beat me to it. The gutless piece of shit still hides from me after almost a year. Makes me wonder how many beatings he incurs while drunk and running his mouth.
I hope Trump and Hunter share a cell just so I could watch your brain break, not knowing whether to cry or cheer.
Probably because he will cheer if Trump is convicted and cry if Hunter is convicted.
Yeap. His word choice was a Freudian slip and he is too stupid to realize it.
Looks like they don't want to discuss it!
a presidential candidate who in his Christmas message said that no world leaders "are as evil and 'sick' as the THUGS we have inside our Country…looking to destroy our once great USA." (
Always emotion with you guys. He said something mean!
And true. So what?
Here's the quote:
“Included also are World Leaders, both good and bad, but none of which are as evil and ‘sick’ as the THUGS we have inside our Country who, with their Open Borders, INFLATION, Afghanistan Surrender, Green New Scam, High Taxes, No Energy Independence, Woke Military, Russia/Ukraine, Israel/Iran, All Electric Car Lunacy, and so much more, are looking to destroy our once great USA. MAY THEY ROT IN HELL. AGAIN, MERRY CHRISTMAS!” the former president concluded."
Typical Trump style. You could certainly make the case that these points could be more artfully articulated. But on substance these are not radical ideas. And in the spirit of the season he closes with an all caps MERRY CHRISTMAS! And in the spirit of the season I propose we all raise a glass in a festive toast with a joyful cry of FUCK JOE BIDEN! MAY HE ROT IN HELL!
I mean, he's saying the same things I do.
Which tells you what?
Check me if I'm wrong here Chet, but isn't this statement a rather loud and vociferous declaration of non-aggression/anti-interventionism?
I mean, we either were involved in blowing up Nord Stream or are financing the country that committed a war crime against NATO. Either way, our interest only extends so far as ferreting out who knew what when payments were made and dealing with them according to US jurisdiction and law.
Aside from the Chinese how can any of the mentioned foreigners claim to have done a 100th of the damage to our nation that Hillary Clinton managed all by her lonesome? In all seriousness Trump is right, foreign powers aren't as dangerous as domestic Democrat and Republican politicians. The stabs in the back our majority parties have done are far more destructive than anything Kim Jung whateverthefuck can ever do to the US.
Throw in the Federal Reserve and Deficit Spending which has destroyed the middle class and wiped-out millions of working class jobs
Has Trump proposed getting rid of the Federal Reserve? All I can find online is that he liked to berate then-Chairman Powell for not cutting interest rates as much as he had wanted him to.
If I only voted for candidates who agreed with eliminating the federal reserve I'd rarely vote at all.
The ellipses in that reference is bypassing a lot of expressed thuggery.
bypassing a lot of lefty-legislated expressed thuggery.
"Prediction: 2024 Will See Deadly Political Violence in the Streets"
And the overwhelming majority of political violence will be mobilized, imposed and praised by the same left wing extremists who hate Trump, the GOP, freedom and America, and who have created the vast majority of political violence during the past 60 years and in 2020
And yet this screed only names Trump and the right as a problem rather than the leftists acting violently. It's one thing to be partisan, but quite another to be this willfully dishonest.
You say that as if you think that "Trump, the GOP, freedom and America" are all together in the same boat. They are not! I hate Trump and the GOP, and I love freedom and America. I have been watching Trump and the GOP struggle to keep power whether they deserve it or not while doing nothing whatever to preserve freedom. America WILL survive despite all the partisan bickering and power struggles. America has survived far worse than Democrats, Biden, Republicans and Trump. Unfortunately, it may survive only after another period of intertribal warfare.
Admiral Levine. The DOJ going all boshie on Catholics and Parents who don't agree on public schools pushing sexual mutilation and mental illness.
The smearing of millions of American males who trace their ancestry back to Ireland or Italy or Europe.
Degeneracy in all levels in the media, big tech, and of course the federal govt. How is that porn movie filmed in the senate?
The immorality by the ruling elites and their corruption is over the top.
"struggle to keep power"
By creating a De-Regulation Committee, De-funding the EPA, Exiting the Paris Accord, Cutting Taxes, Ceasing war-efforts, etc, etc, etc.....?
It completely baffles me the way sheeple minds buy into the "Trump was after power" Nazi-Indoctrination. Seems their thinking process is about as deep as a puddle on a sunny day.
How did that deregulation committee, defunding the EPA, exiting the Paris Accords and "ceasing war efforts (?!)" turn out, if you don't mind my asking. Would you prefer that I allege that Trump was simply padding his resume by seeking the Presidency rather than seeking power?
Vlad and the Kremlin supported Donnie in 2016/2020 in order to sew discord into this country and later NATO.
Vlad is the true leader of the GOP - and they love him.
The discord caused by democrats ginning up false conspiracies?
And your evidence? If you're using the Steele Dossier or anything else conjured up by the Clinton Campaign, please just stop before you begin and get your ass handed to you over it again.
Is his keyboard sticky from jacking it to pics of naked 14-year-old girls?
Or is 14 too old for him?
Ten years too old.
is 14 too old for him?
Not with the use of puberty blockers. Why do you think "progressives" love them so much? A barely-legal youth who looks like a seventh-grader is a fantasy come true for them.
Pretty sure Pluggo likes little boys nest.
Is that because of the links you clicked on?
"If you’re using the Steele Dossier or anything else conjured up by the Clinton Campaign"
You know he is. Buttplug's lazy, so his trolling is pretty low effort.
To prove Trump colluded with the Russians, they colluded with th Russians. You can't make this stuff up.
He reeps what he sews. 😉
Pluggo’s evidence is whatever talking points the various Soros funded Marxist traitor groups email him.
The 1980's called.
They want their foreign policy back.
Ronald McFondled, the EU has more population than the US and includes two nuclear nations. Let them pay for their own defense and negotiate with their neighbors without involving the US taxpayer.
FYI, one sows discord, they don’t sew it.
President Obama: "On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved but it’s important for him to give me space."
President Medvedev: "Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you…"
President Obama: "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility."
President Medvedev: "I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir, and I stand with you."
Which, ironically, would make Democrats the useful idiots. Didn't think about that one, did you?
Stay tuned for SNL cold opening on 30 Rock Antifaintifada
Great, more cop riots.
BOAF SIDEZ !
BOOOOAF SSSIDEEEEZZZ
So much for any delusions of fair and balanced reporting. The screed against Trump contained more vitriol than the gentle reprimand on the left for getting too boisterous in their peace-loving protests.
Political violence is coming, and it will not be pretty. But I live in South Dakota and they had to import some ANTIFA losers to throw a very pathetic protest of the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally and fireworks at Mount Rushmore so I don't think I will be seeing much of it. It's going to be a hot summer in the big cities though. Sane folks might want to get the fuck out and let the leftists burn their own cities.
Honestly, I think the hottest of the bunch will be at the site of the DNC convention in Chicago, and the mayor there, a mere 45-50 miles away from me, is very ill-prepared for it. Kind of close enough to use the heat to pop my popcorn while I watch.
Chicago is the Capitol of clown world and Brandon is Bozo. Gonna be a shit show.
I would very much like to see the United States stay out of foreign affairs as much as possible. That does NOT mean that I am any kind of pacifist. I think interventionism in all its incarnations over the last fifteen decades has been not only nonproductive but downright counterproductive. Although we cannot evaluate what the world would have been like now if we had stayed home and kept our powder dry; and although the few wars I think were justified according to the principle of self-defense turned out well, our power-hungry leaders were never satisfied with simply winning those wars and pulling back out again. They had to create the myths of "vital national interests" and "making the world safe for democracy" and "the domino theory" and "the war on drugs" and the "global war on terrorism" ad nauseam. None of which accomplished what they claimed they wanted and all of which has made the world worse, in my opinion, than it would have been if we had just sat down and shut up after World War II.
Agreed. We should have stayed out of all of it.
Yes, ignoring it will make us immune from its effects.
"ANTIFA losers to throw a very pathetic protest of the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally"
I didn't hear about that. Did they get a well deserved beat down from the bikers?
Michael Berry
Antifa Tried To Crash Famed Sturgis Motorcycle Rally In South Dakota
Aug 17, 2020
On Saturday, several members of Antifa tried to crash the famed bike festival in South Dakota.
Luckily for them, the police they so despise were there to protect them from getting their asses handed to them by bikers.
Video shows masked Antifa punks enter the rally as po-po quickly surrounded them as thousands of bikers screamed in anger.
Some of the bikers and Antifa goons exchange a few shoves because po-po broke it all up.
For their own safety, po-po escorted the Antifa wannabes out of the rally.
Chief Geody Vandewater said a small group of protesters was gathered on Sturgis’ Main Street on Saturday when one of the demonstrators kicked the motorcycle as it passed by. The crowd began swarming toward the protesters, and Vandewater said police escorted the demonstrators to a safe spot.
“It was a little chaotic for a bit,” the chief told The Associated Press. He said among other things, the protesters were demonstrating against Republican Gov. Kristi Noem’s decision not to shut down South Dakota during the coronavirus pandemic and that the Sturgis rally was being held during the pandemic.
I was there for the dumb ass kicking the bike. That's when the cops enveloped the ANTIFUCKS and dragged them away to safety.
Funniest thing ever.
You know, I was only going to come here and join in with everyone reminding the author about Matt Welch's history of calling for political violence, but then this hit me:
[QUOTE]...carrying signs with messages such as, "From NY to Gaza, Globalize the Intifada."
In videos shared widely online, ceasefire advocates...[QUOTE]
And it may just be me, but if you're calling for global holy war, maybe you shouldn't be described as a ceasefire advocate.
Has Welch attacked the Left for using Hitler's Big Lie the way he's attacked Trump for his recent comments? I mean, indulging in the same tactic as the Fuhrer seems to be at least at the same level if not worse.
No, but he did wish a Red Wedding type event on conservatives.
What a lovely person our Welch is.....
Phychologists call this piece "projection".
The russian hoax seems to be still pushed by some in Reason? JC they have the war monger neocon Cathy Young still writing for them. Who made a donation for that? Bill Kristol?
You will need to define what you mean by, "the Russian hoax".
The Trump campaign's contacts with Russians is not a hoax. Are you denying those contacts occurred, or only that Trump didn't actually conspire with Putin?
I imagine he would attack anyone's use of the Big Lie in political discourse. Do you have any specific examples?
They aren't calling for a literal cease-fire, they just want Israel to stop fighting back. They are pro-Hamas, not pro-Palestinian.
Hamas is responsible for every death in Gaza. They could end this any time by releasing the hostages and surrendering.
Further more, the riots we've seen in much of the West show why it's not a great thing to let everyone in the world in, because they import their own beliefs, they don't adapt to yours.
Also, in the rest of the World, Muslims butcher 140 Christians in Nigeria, Turkey bombs Kurds in Syria, and throwing a temper tantrum after Ukraine destroyed a ship with ammo from Iran, Russia struck a civilian evacuation train in Ukraine.
But none of those apparently are important enough to protest, somehow.
we’ve seen in much of the West show why it’s not a great thing to let everyone in the world in, because they import their own beliefs, they don’t adapt to yours.
"In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here does in good faith become an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with every one else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed or birthplace or origin. But this is predicated upon the man’s becoming in very fact an American and nothing but an American.
"If he tries to keep segregated with men of his own origin and separated from the rest of America, then he isn't doing his part as an American.
"We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile. We have room for but one language here and that is the English language, for we intend to see that the crucible turns our people out as Americans, and American nationality, and not as dwellers in a polyglot boarding house; and we have room for but one soul [sic] loyalty, and that is loyalty to the American people."5
"Let us say to the immigrant not that we hope he will learn English, but that he has got to learn it. Let the immigrant who does not learn it go back. He has got to consider the interest of the United States or he should not stay here. He must be made to see that his opportunities in this country depend upon his knowing English and observing American standards.
"We must in every way possible encourage the immigrant to rise, help him up, give him a chance to help himself. If we try to carry him he may well prove not well worth carrying. We must in turn insist upon his showing the same standard of fealty to this country and to join with us in raising the level of our common American citizenship.
First all illegals should be deported unless they have an American employer who has offered the position and was rejected by three Americans. Second, like the mafia, we deported back to Italy many Americans of Italian ancestry who were part of organized crime. We should do the same with neocons and anyone with "dual citizenship." They can be deported back to eastern europe or the middle east or mongolia but get them out.
Mafia were Sicilian in origin, not Italian.
Theodore Roosevelt on Immigration
--Teddy Roosevelt.
To make this work, however, we cannot also treat immigrants like second-class citizens. Full rights, full responsibilities: Votes, guns and drugs!
Democrats brainwashing their followers to believe Trump is an authoritarian, the death of democracy, end of the republic, orange hitler, genocidal maniac, etc, etc... Setting him up for assassination prior to the election. And you're complaining about him calling out his political prosecution.
All your violence will be started by Democrats with Democrat Victims.
They said pretty much the same things about Mitt Romney. The words do not have the meaning that they think they do. They've abused the language to the point where it's just political drivel.
Will we see deadly political violence in the streets? Like we saw in the summer of 2020 from Antifa and BLM?
We will wish for that level of political violence.
I expect better from "Reason" the violence is 100% created and backed by the Democrats and their rich donors. to try and blame anyone on the right, or Trump is a blatant lie and misinformation at the same level of the Dems
So, no woodchipping?
This is the sort of hysterical fare one expects from such sources as the NYTimes. The editor at large is rather small after all.
"Prediction: 2024 Will See Deadly Political Violence in the Streets"
I hope not. But if it does, then I hope you, Goth Fonzie Woppo, Mingo-Mango-Mongo, and the rest of the fugazis are among the first victims.
"Republicans, meanwhile, are backing by more than 50 percentage points in national polls a presidential candidate who in his Christmas message said that no world leaders "are as evil and 'sick' as the THUGS we have inside our Country…looking to destroy our once great USA." ("MAY THEY ROT IN HELL," he added.) Nearly three years after egging on a chaotic and deadly Capitol Hill riot on election-certification day via conspiracy-fantasia and political scapegoating, the former president has not changed his tune, even while facing two criminal prosecutions tied to his shabby conduct on January 6, 2021. So far, 884 of his supporters have been convicted of crimes (with often over-zealous sentencing, in my view) for their actions connected with that foul day."
Sooooo...Reason, in lockstep with the MSM, continues to want to blame Trump for having the audacity to fight back. Even though Reason knows better, it wants to leave people thinking that the "deadly" riot was Trumps fault. The only people who were killed were the two women murdered by DC cops. How is that Trump's fault, Reason? So why are you insinuating that it is?
Reason throws a bone by speaking of 'overzealous sentencing'. That's putting it mildly. Merrick Garland has been persecuting people who had no clue that they had even broken a law. On any other day, people walk in and out of the Captial building with impunity. But that day, people walked in, with no signs saying to keep out, and with officers standing there and not stopping them, and were not doing any damage whatsoever, and Garland decided they needed full persecution.
Garland is evil. The system is corrupt to the core. We are now a totalitarian banana republic. But Reason wants to make it about Trump.
Trump is right. Biden and his cabal are as evil as any other despots anywhere else.
Reason writers care about open borders, abortion until birth (and possible post birth in some cases), and sexual mutilation of kids with mental illness (and I suspect some of the writers are just fine with grooming and more). Deficts, nope. Foreign warns? Nope. Getting rid of the anti-liberty parts of the CRA? Nope. Cutting govt. Nope. any type of morality? nope.
"blame Trump for having the audacity to fight back"
Fight back against what?
"The only people who were killed were the two women murdered by DC cops."
I only know about one, but she got what any violent rioter invading a secure building and trying to breach a barrier with armed defenders would get. She wasn't murdered by any rational definition of the word. I wish they had picked off more, but they showed incredible restraint. Too bad, the world is a worse place for their self-control.
"Merrick Garland has been persecuting people who had no clue that they had even broken a law."
Sure. People were confused after stepping past overturned barriers, empty tear gas canisters, and wreckage that they weren't supposed to be there. How could they have possibly known?
"We are now a totalitarian banana republic."
Yeah, you and your fellow travelers like to say that. But you also think the radical idea that evidentiary standards, jury trials, and the rule of law should be the way criminal behavior is handled is terrible, so you don't have a lot of credibility.
"Trump is right."
Almost never. Frequently by design, for propaganda purposes like the "stolen election" bullshit, but often through ignorance or his complete inability to accept real things he doesn't like.
"...Fight back against what?.."
Dunno if it caused shitbag's TDS or if it is a result, regardless this steaming pile of TDS addled shit seems to think that is a real question.
Protesters in big Democratic cities routinely block bridges, freeways, and transit hubs
Speed bumps. Treat them as such just once or twice and this will stop.
James Fields begs to differ.
"I apologize for the hurt and loss I’ve caused,” he said. “Every day I think about how things could have gone differently and how I regret my actions. I’m sorry."
Red herring. Fields deliberately sought and rammed his car through a group of protesters. That's not what we're talking about here. He did not just find himself blocked or surrounded by a mob.
We can insist on factual journalism
The commentariat does that daily here, yet there is no effect on Reason's reporting.
Most of us are neither subscribers nor funders of Reason magazine.
"The commentariat does that daily here"
A lot try, but the paleocons and MAGAs keep ignoring the things they don't want to hear.
"Most of us are neither subscribers nor funders of Reason magazine."
“The commentariat does that daily here”
A lot try, but the paleocons and MAGAs keep ignoring the things they don’t want to hear."
Yeah, lefty shitbags remain newbies here. And pathetic liars besides.
NY Post:
Hamas rejects Egyptian proposal to end war with Israel, refuses free elections in Gaza
Hamas and Islamic Jihad terror groups operating in Gaza have rejected an Egyptian-led truce proposal with Israel that would see the militants relinquish power in return for an end to the war, sources say.
The terrorists, who conducted the Oct. 7 massacre in Israel, have refused to take part in one of the biggest conditions laid out by negotiators in Cairo on Sunday: an end to Hamas’ reign in Gaza by forming a Palestinian parliament and holding free elections, according to two Egyptian security sources.
The terrorist organizations instead reiterated that the only thing they’re ready to discuss is a prisoner swap that would see more than 100 Israeli hostages released in exchange for hundreds of Palestinian prisoners being held in Israel’s jails.
While the peace talks have been previously discussed exchanging one hostage for every three Palestinian women and minors freed, leaders for Islamic Jihad are now demanding a different approach.
The terror group has claimed that the only fair exchange would be all the hostages for all the prisoners, according to the Egyptian sources.
There were about 5,250 Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails before the war, but that number has nearly doubled after thousands more were arrested in conflicts along the West Bank since Oct. 7, according to the Palestinian Prisoners Association.
The Egyptian plan focuses on three phases, the first of which involves a two-week truce agreement that would see 40 hostages freed in exchange for 120 prisoners.
Hamas has said it would not agree to any cease-fire until Israel withdraws from Gaza, where more than 20,000 people have been reported dead.
The second phase involves the establishment of a new government in Gaza, with the final step calling for permanent peace and the freedom of all hostages.
The terror group has also demanded an increase in aid for Palestinian refugees displaced by the war.
Fine. Just carpet bomb the place. Make the rubble bounce.
Gaza declared this war. They should be tested like Nazi Germany.
Rebuilt at our expense?
Yes, the world will have to spend money on rebuilding Gaza. Along with that come a loss of self-determination, tight controls on Gaza government, extensive monitoring of the population, a takeover of the educational system, and loss of territory. Just like Germany. And as in Germany, this will have to stay in place for 50 years.
First the corporate media and Reason don't understand how much a good % of Americans hate them for pushing the cultural Marxism/degeneracy and "globalism" on them. Second, millions of Americans have moved to States which reflect their views...this is a new dynamic. Third, thanks to podcasts (and the death of the bolshie media to keep Americans on the 3x5 card), millions of Americans actually can debate monetary policy, despise the Federal Reserve, understand where inflation comes from, sees the neocon/AIPAC lobby influence on Congress with regards to the corrupt Trotsky Ukraine and Israel. Throw in the anti-Catholic bigotry and anti-European American Christian bigotry in most Federal Agencies and you have very polarized country. Way beyond anything Welch and his cosmo "libertarians" understand. The more extreme the Dems become, the more push back they will get and God forbid Biden sends in the federal military to attack Americans (which I could see). I have a neighbor who hated Trump. Now he is born again after seeing the degenerates running DC. Admiral Levine indeed.
And yet, it is Trump who wants to send in the federal military to attack Americans...
"WASHINGTON (AP) — Campaigning in Iowa this year, Donald Trump said he was prevented during his presidency from using the military to quell violence in primarily Democratic cities and states.
Calling New York City and Chicago “crime dens,” the front-runner for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination told his audience, “The next time, I’m not waiting. One of the things I did was let them run it and we’re going to show how bad a job they do,” he said. “Well, we did that. We don’t have to wait any longer.”
Trump has not spelled out precisely how he might use the military during a second term, although he and his advisers have suggested they would have wide latitude to call up units. While deploying the military regularly within the country’s borders would be a departure from tradition, the former president already has signaled an aggressive agenda if he wins, from mass deportations to travel bans imposed on certain Muslim-majority countries.
A law first crafted in the nation’s infancy would give Trump as commander in chief almost unfettered power to do so, military and legal experts said in a series of interviews."
So this is one of the upsides.
Interesting take on using federal forces to restore the rule of law to places that have lost the ability to keep their honest citizens safe.
What exactly is the problem with that? When locals clearly can't do the job that's what we have a federal government for?
Interesting that Matt does mention that we still don't know how many Fed agents were with the rioters on January 6th or why Nancy Pelosi wouldn't let the head of capitol hill security bring in the national guard.
Typical of a [Na]tional So[zi]alist invaded nation. You can't create totalitarian gov-'gun' forces of socialism (armed-theft) collectives (not even by 'democracy') without ending up with the middle-east. This lesson has been realized over and over and over and over and over again.
The USA is a Constitutional Union of Constitutional Republican States. If you don't know what the definition of the USA is or are Anti-USA (the left) how can it ever keep being the land of the free?
Right now, I am not planning to vote in 2024 if it’s a repeat of 2020. Why should I waste my time? On the other hand, if I sense that the donkey party has completely lost their shit, and it is looking more that they are, I could be persuaded to vote against them.
So no change from 2023 then.
Assume Colorado and several battleground states bar Trump from the ballot.
Assume that we then experience a substantial period of political violence.
Would the congress ie the Democrats exercise the 14th amendment section 3 provision to allow Trump to be on the ballot. That would require 2/3 approval of the members.
They would just cancel the election and rule as a junta before doing that.
Love the pains you go through to NOT mention the party or ideology that created/enabled those aggressive “protests” (let’s be real here, if those were any but a small handful of pet groups/issues, the media and political classes would be calling them violent riots in the very BEST of cases and the FBI would be involved) but then spend the rest of the article calling out the other side directly for… checks notes… saying mean things to the people calling them nazis and trying to keep people from being able to vote for them.
Matt types, “…tied to his shabby conduct on January 6, 2021.”
Appears you missed this shabby conduct (understandable as Jack Dorsey was then colluding with the FBI to delete the post less than an hour after it was taken down):
https://x.com/laralogan/status/1737940375430475939?s=46
Speaking of scammers around....
You seen eager to Kill All Rednecks.
Was thatsarcasm?
What about Mormons?
I’m not sure Caribou is “MAGA,” I don’t live in The County. Being in or near an urban area would be disastrous during widespread civil unrest.
And if there is, no one wants be around a slimy pile of shit like you
More scummy scammers.