Capitol Riot

Here Is What the President Told Pro-Trump Rioters Before They Stormed the Capitol

Trump said the "Save America March" would be peaceful, but his apocalyptic rhetoric had predictable consequences.

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"I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful," President Donald Trump tweeted after some of the supporters he had urged to gather in Washington, D.C., for a "Save America March" aimed at preventing President-elect Joe Biden from taking office stormed the Capitol, where lawmakers had gathered to officially tally the election results. "No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order—respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you!"

Before today's riot, Trump also asked his followers to protest peacefully, and the responsibility for the violence lies first and foremost with the individuals who committed it. Yet it was predictable that at least some Trump supporters would go beyond peaceful protest after he spent two months insisting that he actually won the election by a landslide, a fact that he said would be apparent but for a massive criminal conspiracy that delivered a phony victory to Biden. Today is the day when Congress was scheduled to affirm that victory, which Trump has persistently portrayed as an intolerable threat to democracy.

"These people are not going to take it any longer," Trump declared at a Washington, D.C., rally that began an hour before the joint session of Congress convened. "They rigged an election. They rigged it like they've never rigged an election before…Hundreds of thousands of American patriots are committed to the honesty of our elections and the integrity of our glorious republic. All of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen by emboldened radical-left Democrats, which is what they're doing, and stolen by the fake news media. That's what they've done and what they're doing. We will never give up. We will never concede. It doesn't happen. You don't concede. Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore….We will stop the steal."

Trump made the stakes clear. "We're going to have somebody in there that should not be in there," he said, "and our country will be destroyed. And we're not going to stand for that."

How did Trump propose to "stop the steal"? He held out the vain hope that Vice President Mike Pence would reverse the election results by rejecting electoral votes for Biden from several swing states—a power the vice president does not actually have. "I hope Mike is going to do the right thing," Trump said. "If Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election….He has the absolute right to do it….Mike Pence is going to have to come through for us. And if he doesn't, that will be a sad day for our country, because you're sworn to uphold our Constitution. "

But Pence decided that "the right thing," in terms of Trump's personal desires, was the wrong thing under the Constitution. "I do not believe that the Founders of our country intended to invest the Vice President with unilateral authority to decide which electoral votes should be counted during the Joint Session of Congress, and no vice president in American history has ever asserted such authority," Pence said in a statement he issued as Trump was speaking. "It is my considered judgment that my oath to support and defend the Constitution constrains me from claiming unilateral authority to determine which electoral votes should be counted and which should not."

Predictably, Trump responded by slamming Pence on Twitter: "Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!" As Christian Britschgi notes, "that tweet came roughly 10 minutes after it was reported that Pence had been escorted off the Senate floor" in response to the pro-Trump riot.

Once unconstitutional intervention by the vice president was off the table, what other options were left for Trump fans outraged by the installation of a president their leader portrays as illegitimate? "It is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy," Trump said. "We're going to walk down to the Capitol…and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women. And we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them. Because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong."

After Trump told the protesters that their country was about to be destroyed by an illegal usurper, the idea of cheering the "brave" lawmakers who side with Trump and booing the ones who side with reality must have seemed like pretty weak tea. Some of them evidently thought that "show[ing] strength" required more than that, especially after it became clear that Pence was not riding to the rescue of the republic.

"We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated," Trump said. "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard today."

No doubt the president's supporters will cite the "peacefully" part in his defense. But after two months of bizarre conspiracy theories, constant presidential complaints about a stolen election, declarations that conceding Biden's victory is not an option, and repeated warnings that the fate of the nation hangs in the balance, that is more weight than a single adverb can bear.

NEXT: 'Our Democracy Would Enter a Death Spiral': McConnell Rebukes Electoral Challenge Minutes Before Protesters Storm Capitol

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    2. He asked people to walk to the Capitol “peacefully,” and “cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women.”

      That may be “weak tea,” Jacob Sullum, but it’s what he asked people to do. And these requests are the OPPOSITE of inciting a riot.

      He also tweeted requests to “respect law enforcement.” No inciter of riots has ever done that! Throughout the many deadly riots of 2020, no one on the left did that!

      Trump’s supporters obeyed his requests. Unfortunately, a small fraction of the tens of thousands of people who visited Washington on Wednesday defied his requests to be peaceful. Those people are, by definition, not his supporters.

      Apply Reason, Mr. Sullum: if you asked a group of people not to break the law, and most of them obeyed you while a few of them defied you, it be neither correct nor fair to call the ones who defied you “Sullum supporters.”

  2. ‘Riot’ is a word now? I thought it was purged from the dictionaries.

    1. Just re-added.

      You know how Merriam’s rolls. The definition of a word used, in some cases, for over a thousand years, can be changed overnight (literally) if politics demands it.

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      2. I listened to a variety of the Alphabet channels yesterday and never once heard “mostly peaceful protestors”, even though there were no burning buildings and overturned cars behind them. Words are so confusing to me lately.

        And of course, unlike when Governors and Mayors were actually out there with bullhorns and leading groups of protestors against the cities they themselves governed and had 100% control over, it is the President who is personally blamed because telling people to be peaceful and respect law and order is actually code for “go break shit”. Everyone knows that.

        Probably more interesting, within 10 minutes, CNN had spent more time covering this event than the aggregate of the 8 months prior in which dozens of US cities had portions shut down, thousands of businesses looted and vandalized, and hundreds of people killed. I guess they finally learned their lesson that they are supposed to cover stupid shit going down?

  3. It’s interesting how Palin’s remarks were taken by the Left (and, at the time, defended by Reason) and how Trump’s are interpreted.

  4. Fascists don’t like to lose elections.

    1. Ah, so that’s why you rig them.

    2. Took a break from your child porn?

    3. Yeah, we learned that over the last 4 years. Funny how you’re just now paying attention.

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  6. more weight than a single adverb can bear.

    How much weight can an adverb bear?

    1. African adverb, or European?

      1. I think it’s French. So European. It can bear the weight of roughly 3 holy grails. European holy grails that is.

      2. The real question is what is the adverbs favorite color?

        Also, this is not an argument. This is merely a contradiction.

        And Jacob Sullum had a parrot, but its pining for the fjords.

  7. Same recipe is used by BLM to justify “peaceful protests”; probably where Trump got the idea.

    1. It was a 93% peaceful rally.

  8. “his apocalyptic rhetoric had predictable consequences”

    Oh?

    “”We’re going to have somebody in there that should not be in there,” he said, “and our country will be destroyed. And we’re not going to stand for that.”

    Wait, that’s it? When did he tell them to storm the rotunda?

    “I hope Mike is going to do the right thing,”

    Well that’s damning…

    “USA demands the truth!”

    Practically Hitler.

    “It is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy,”

    NOW THAT’S NOT TRU… oh wait

    “We’re going to walk down to the Capitol…and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women.

    Horrific. Cheering for elected officials is definitely Kristalnacht.

    “I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard today.”

    Hmm… I think I need some high-level dissembling and demagoguery to make this seem bad.

    Sullum, are you up for it?

    “No doubt the president’s supporters will cite the “peacefully” part in his defense. But after two months of bizarre-conspiracy-theories-persistent-presidential-complaints-declarations-that-conceding-Biden’s-victory-is-not-option-repeated-warnings-that-the-fate-of-the-nation-hangs-in-the-balance, that is more weight than a single adverb can bear.”

    Wow! None of those things are bad or even wrong, but you make it all sound so sinister.
    Thanks Jacob!

    1. So that’s what a good adverb smells like.

    2. “But after two months of bizarre-conspiracy-theories-persistent-presidential-complaints-declarations-that-conceding-Biden’s-victory-is-not-option-repeated-warnings-that-the-fate-of-the-nation-hangs-in-the-balance, that is more weight than a single adverb can bear.”

      Yeah, wow… brings back memories of Sullum saying the same thing about 3 fucking years of the same damn shit by members of Congress. Still waiting on Adam “Bug Eyes” Schiff’s “more evidence” that he said was coming.

  9. Lol. Never fucking change sullum. The people are enraged because retards like you ridiculed those who questioned the elections. Instead of using the last 2 months to assuage voting concerns with audits you told them to sit down and shut up, cheering every procedural loss in court, ignoring destruction of evidence such as envelopes in Pa, and paying no attention to the electoral clauses or the late changes to election rules.

    What the fuck did you think would happen when half the country doesn’t think this was a fair election?

    1. I think he hoped that they’d get up, pull up their underwear, put some makeup on their shiner, and go get the other half a sandwich.

    2. Trumpbots and Tin JesseBahnFuhrer Soldiers will burn down the capitol building, but that’s OK! We’ll create jobs by rebuilding new, more energy efficient replacement buildings!

      Tin JesseBahnFuhrer Soldiers getting their rocks off on their “punishment boners” by punishing all of the “Marxists”, now, THAT is the IMPORTANT part!

      1. In one thousand words or less, can you explain what you think a “punishment boner” is.

        1. Ego-tripping and power-tripping over punishing wrong-think and wrong-acts, in a self-righteous, inflated-ego, My-How-Perfect-Am-I state of mind. Like a certain Canadian who wants to PUNISH-PUNISH-PUNISH-PUNISH-PUNISH-PUNISH-PUNISH-PUNISH-PUNISH-PUNISH people who use THEIR web sites, in a way which displeases Might Momma, The Magnificent!

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      2. You really are pathetic sarcasmic. Most of us have already denounced the sweetie. Something you still have done for leftist violence.

        1. What do expect from a guy who is still going on and on about collusion with Russia, despite knowing that the “evidence” was fabricated for a multi-million dollar price tag that nobody disputes?

    3. “I thought it was standard procedure to run the same stack of ballots multiple times. No? My bad.” Georgia Poll Workers

    4. > half the country
      Really?

      Doesn’t seem like that many people are doubting the elections. It does seem like a small minority are absolutely convinced of it though. What was the total attendance at protests today? 10,000? If half the country is really convinced that democracy was thwarted and only 10k showed up, well, you already lost the country at that point.

      1. Yeah, well, unlike the BLM rioters, most Trump followers have to be at work on Wednesday.

      2. Most of us have kids, jobs, businesses, and are paying taxes so your ass can sit at home and swallow talking points and bow to the edicts of your handlers. We can’t travel on a moment’s notice and most of us are jaded enough to know it’s an exercise in futility. Sorry pumpkin, but if you think you can determine national opinion by who shows up at a last minute rally, you’re beyond help.

        According to a couple of recent polls, 70% of Republicans and 10% of Democrats believe quite a bit of chicanery is/was involved in vote manipulation, and though they didn’t measure independents, it’s probably somewhere in the middle of those numbers. So yeah, likely close to half.

        Whether we believe it was enough to throw the election is a different question, but certainly not a far stretch in some important precincts. You know, like in the 5% that always report last and are always heavily Democratic to turn the results around.

        Don’t worry, in a couple of months even the Dems will be once again cracking jokes about how 6′ of dirt on your face can change your voting habits and will go back to lining up old bimbos for the next election with stories with how [insert Republican threat] abused them terribly 40 years ago.

      3. Some estimates are that 200,000 were at the rally.

        About 20,000 were at the riot that followed, of whom a few hundred entered the Capitol. Maybe one day of antifa in one city.

    5. Actually, far less than “half the country” thinks that something was rigged. Nothing was rigged. Zero evidence. None. Nada.
      And I hate Trump.

  10. Well, what can you expect from a bunch of inbred moron hick white supremacists from trailer parks in flyover country who probably don’t even know the difference between a sherry glass and a champagne flute?

    1. Hey! I resemble that remark…except for the trailer park bit

    2. Sherry Glass was kinda cute. Champagne’s flute was kinda dry.

  11. Since Gil Scott Heron’s “Revolution Will Not Be Televised” would be too obvious, I’m going to link to this Curtis Mayfield piece here.

  12. Today is the day when Congress was scheduled to affirm that victory, which Trump has persistently portrayed as an intolerable threat to democracy.

    Well, he could be right. If he is it’s a pretty hard hit to democracy in this country.
    I don’t think today’s activities are going to do any good for anything, but neither has the political and media establishment’s ignoring the fact that close to half the country thinks there was something very wrong with this election. And I think they are right to some degree. Even if there wasn’t enough fraud to change the outcome, the whole poorly planned and implemented mail in voting thing certainly significantly altered the dynamics of the election.

    1. The thing is that you really don’t need to change the dynamics of the entire election or even an entire state. You just need to provide alterations to a few key precincts that are enough to change a state.

      If that means you need to flood a bathroom to send home the Republican vote counters, change last date acceptance on ballots, find missing bags of ballots 2 days later, or get a judge to allow you to send millions of ballots to people who haven’t asked for them and/or haven’t voted in 20-40 years, then that’s what you gotta do.

  13. I’m not a Trump fan, have never voted for either him or Biden. I do however wonder if there were professional agitators in the crowd.

    I do not place blame on Trump for challenging the results of the election. It is his right as a candidate even though I personally don’t believe that there was enough election fraud that can be proven to alter the outcome. This is different from the question if there was enough election fraud to alter the outcome.

    I can see the point of view of Trump supporters belief of foul play. I can see their point that non of the evidence was investigated. To date, I’m not aware of any investigation conducted by an impartial party.

    Remember that there really have been no court cases yet because every court has declined to accept the case or shut it down due to lack of standing. One may very well wonder if any election fraud can ever be prosecuted or proven based on recent history.

    If the government was intelligent (very doubtful) they would created a Election Commission to investigate election fraud. Members of the commission should be appointed prior to Biden taking office or Senate majority changes otherwise it will appear partisan.

    This has nothing to do with who becomes President, but to fix the issues and improve the confidence in our elections. Since even before Gore vs Bush there has been declining confidence in our elections. This lack of confidence is on all sides of politics, left or right and also third parties.

    No, Trump didn’t cause any riots and should not be blamed on any violence. This is just another example of a double standard that exists. This overt double standard is what is bubbling up and if anyone is to blame for violence other than the perpetrators it would be the Corporate Media.

    1. Nope. No audits ever say the cosplay Libertarians here.

      1. Audits are OUTSIDE NORMAL PARAMETERS. Libertarians could be triggered.

    2. C’mon man. I created the biggest Election Fraud organization in history before this election. I’m waiting until I am sworn in to release them.

      1. Then he’s clearly the man we want in charge. What a stud and from a basement.

    3. Remember that there really have been no court cases yet because every court has declined to accept the case or shut it down due to lack of standing.

      courts do not ‘shut it down’ when it determines lack of standing; it determines that the plaintiff has not demonstrated sufficient connection to and harm from the action being challenged…a determination which cannot be made without due scrutiny of the case itself; Trump’s legal team failed miserably trying to prove such standing…

    4. “I do not place blame on Trump for challenging the results of the election. It is his right as a candidate even though I personally don’t believe that there was enough election fraud that can be proven to alter the outcome. This is different from the question if there was enough election fraud to alter the outcome.”
      Just curious, how much election fraud is acceptable? Cause the answer should be none. But there is evidence and it was clearly ignored.

      1. But there is evidence and it was clearly ignored.

        you’re certain that all the fraud was on one side…? one party is nothing but a bunch of scurrilous scumbags, and the other is pure as the drien snow…?

        1. “Pure as the driven snow” – no more than I believe that Dems have spotted fraud on the other side but failed to report it [cuz they ain’t snitches]. Are you more prone to believe that one side does so much of it that they can’t help be frequently caught or that the other side does it so damn well that they almost never get caught?

          Your suggestion that ‘well if one side cheats, the other side prolly does it too’ is as spurious and well thought out as the argument that requiring voter ID is voter suppression because some black people might not be able to afford or aren’t bright enough to get a free ID card. Democrat judges rule on that one despite never being able to find a single black person who doesn’t have a valid ID or can get one if they want it.

  14. How much does the DNC pay Sullum?

    1. I think it’s mostly just rich Uncle Charles, who knows that DNC policies will help double his fortune.

  15. Or maybe some Jethro Tull:

    Jagged fires mark the picket lines, the politicians weep
    and mealy-mouthed through corridors of power on tip-toe creep.
    Come and see bureaucracy make its final heave
    and let the new disorder through while senses take their leave.

    1. Looks like Twitter will be banning Jethro Tull next.

      1. Twitter thinks Jethro Tull is one of the Beverly Hillbillies.

        h/t Andrew Dice Clay.

        1. He plays a mean whistle though.

  16. Was it predictable like rioting is part of mass street protests so those calling for protests are respoinsible if they make no effort to prevent them?

    The truth is of course that BLM protest organizers both expected and supported the riots, they just needed plausible deniability in public. The media did its best to create the plausible deniability even though BLM organizers made supportive statements such as denying that property damage (including arson) and threats are not violent and claiming assaults were defensive even when that was clearly false.

    It’s revealing no Reasoner addressed this over 8 months of BLM riots but literally the day of the first right-riot they recognize and support the connection.

    1. Surely you jest. The esteemed Elizabeth Nolan Brown herself, on July 20th wrote:

      Department of Homeland Security (DHS) agents and U.S. marshals dressed in military gear and brandishing large weapons have been stationed in Portland since around the start of the month, per an executive order from President Donald Trump. The feds are allegedly there to protect national monuments and guard against potential domestic terrorism.

      Instead, this deliberately intimidating gaggle of outside “law enforcement” officers has been agitating peacefully assembled people who are merely exercising their constitutional rights. This has included shooting one man directly in the head with an impact munition of some sort (sending him to the hospital and necessitating facial reconstruction surgery) and, reportedly, forcing protesters into unmarked vans.

      According to an internal Homeland Security memo, “federal agents facing backlash for their militarized approach to Portland were not specifically trained in riot control or mass demonstrations,” The New York Times reports.

      That doesn’t bode well for the idea that they were sent in with mitigation in mind.

      Despite federal agent actions last week, large Portland protests continued over the weekend…

      Reason was clearly establishing that the rioters were responsible for their actions.

      Oh, wait….

  17. Now show us how all the Marxist academics and Democrats are being held accountable for their century of trouble making.

    I hate statists of all stripes, but Marxist academics and politicians have done far more harm to this country than one day of Trump supporters, or even four years of Trump.

  18. “Just stab the motherf–ker in the heart, please.”

    1. Fuck you, fuck your wife, fuck everything you stand for.

      1. I’m not sad a fucking fascist died tonight

        1. He was a fucking Nazi. Our community held its own, and took out the trash. I am not going to shed any tears over a Nazi dying.

          1. The system created Trump, he didn’t create the system.
            Impunity is what allows racists to police us & criminals to govern us. When justice fails and human dignity is infringed upon. The only language they understand is revolt. #ICantBreathe #GeorgeFloyd #Antifa #BlackLivesMatter

            1. Hundreds of people in #NYC brought the fight home from #Minneapolis last night! Pigs tried to frighten crowds, but nobody stopped!! Vans were chased away, pigs beaten back, & their cars scrambled w/ #FTP scrawled on them! Sporadic memorials for #GeorgeFLoyd held his name high!

              1. antifa is an idea, not an organization

                1. mOsTLy peACefUl

                  1. Is all that vomit taken from twitter, Wernher?

      1. aPoCaLYptIc rHEtoRiC hAd prDdictABle coNseqUeNCes.

        1. Yea. Like a successful attempt at removing a legitimate president from office after impeachment. That would have had massively violent consequences. But hypocritical Senate Democrats gave 0 fucks when they voted.

  19. Amazing. After that build up, I’d assumed there’s be something, SOMETHING, that Trump had said, that was vaguely incriminating. Somehow.

    He ruthlessly told them to be peaceful. That’s all you’ve got? This publication is turning into a joke.

    1. This rag has gone past full retard. They’ve gone to plaid. I almost never comment anymore, because I don’t have anything nice to say. Makes me fucking sad.

      Our various trolls/sock puppets/drive by assholes are actually meta now. There’s threads where 75% of the posts are one guy talking to himself. What in the actual fuck.

      1. I always talk to myself in a second language. Gives you practice. And people get scared of you.

    2. But Sullum did tie it all up with a lovely little word salad at the end, that sounds incriminating until you think about it.

    3. Jacob’s saying that if the problem is as Trump stated it, the only solution for it is to riot.

      1. Well why not? It’s the same damn mindset at saying that since some black guy got killed by police. the only available alternative is to riot and kill some more black people and burn others out of a livelihood. That was also Sullum’s response…. though not in those exact words.

        People like Sullum are a significant problem in this country, not just because they have stupid opinions that won’t stand any test of logic, but because they justify acts of violence by blaming political enemies.

        The difference I suppose is that Sullum will begrudgingly and weakly [and only if called on it] admit that violent offenders on the left probably shouldn’t do that but would support hefty jail time for people on the right who do the same thing.

  20. Why can’t they follow the example of the noble, peaceful, pacifist, virgin, innocent, loving protesters and throw some fucking bricks? If only they were that peaceful!

    1. No that’s too peaceful. I mean, these guys were so violent they didn’t even set any cars on fire.

  21. Trumps Twitter was shut down for 12 hours and tweets have been deleted (which I didn’t find problematic). The left is indeed emboldened. While in reality, if anything, the extremely razor thin results despite Trump running was a warning, not a victory. The left is deluded. With someone like Trump, if he is as bad as they claim, they should have won landslide style.

    I remember the tweets not to be very bad. They certainly didn’t call for violence.

    Does anyone know of a website where you can retrieve deleted tweets, like removeddit or waybackmachine?

    1. Now that the tweets have been deleted, the left will have impunity to claim Trump ginned up all the anger with his tweets.

  22. The Tiananimen Square death toll was estimated at around 10,000. This was a very tiny and relatively peaceful protest overall by comparison. Try to imagine the citizens of China talking about their leader like our press and our Dems talk about Trump, and getting away with it. Their leader is force feeding abortion drugs to Uighur women in prison camps. If this is as bad as it gets here, we have a pretty vibrant democracy, people are just mad about a bit of cheating, that’s all. Was there enough cheating to give Trump sufficient swing state votes to win? Probably not, but maybe, many Americans are not sure. Poor Mr. Sullum thinks the sky is falling, I hope he is all right.

    1. “If this is as bad as it gets here, we have a pretty vibrant democracy,”

      Not anymore.
      There’s a new Soviet in charge.

  23. You know who else’s rhetoric had predictable consequences?

    1. Marshall Mathers

    2. Nostrademus?

  24. The left is going to use this riot as an excuse to clamp down hard. Expect this site to be gone within a year.

    1. This, and guns, and talk radio, and twitter, and facebook, and pretty much all dissent. It isn’t like they are hiding their calls for reeducation camps.

    2. This site will be gone? You have to be joking. If anything, this site’s talent for licking the boots of the oligarchy will merit a perpetual grant from the National Institute for the Humanities.

      1. Brown on the nose will save them for a little bit, and I imagine that the Reason Foundation will “evolve” regarding libertarianism, in the same manner that the ACLU “evolved” of freedom of speech.

  25. Sullum, do us all a favor and kill yourself.

    1. No need to be mean – he can retire or go work at CNN or learn to code. But we don’t need advocacy for repression of dissent from mainstream narratives on a libertarian platform.

      1. Saying “learn to code” is considered “hate speech” now. Our moral superiors on the left told us so.

  26. FIRE JACOB SULLUM

    You don’t support freedom of speech. You aren’t a libertarian. Fuck you!

    1. This

    2. Yep.

    3. Well Sideshow Sullum does draw in the hateful comments. I’m not sure what he’s blathering about this time; I don’t bother reading his articles anymore.

  27. Let’s see, Trump was an “illegitimate president” according to the last Democratic hopeful. May have conceded but never did to reality.

  28. The status-quo isn’t working. Trump supporters understand this. It’s time for things to change and fighting corrupt big government is step 1. It may not be pretty, but it’s necessary for change. It’s the extreme actions that move the needle. Keyboard warriors don’t seem to understand that.

    1. We have become France. Their government is generally unresponsive to the people, so every 10 years or so some oppressed group or another starts setting cars no fire.

      That’s the French way of getting things done…that’s us now.

  29. So, people who break things and threaten people during a politically motivated protest are RIOTERS now?

    That would have been good to know about 6 months ago.

    1. Now you’re talkin’ CNN language. Except for that last sentence, cuz that was obviously razzist.

  30. Supporter Trump understand about that…
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  31. Where’s the guy that always floods Sideshow Sullum articles with dick pics?

  32. “No doubt the president’s supporters will cite the “peacefully” part in his defense. But after two months of bizarre conspiracy theories, constant presidential complaints about a stolen election, declarations that conceding Biden’s victory is not an option, and repeated warnings that the fate of the nation hangs in the balance, that is more weight than a single adverb can bear.”

    WAIT – crimes that have a required element of intent aren’t such a good idea? Whodathoughtit?

  33. So Jacob, you are the one saying that, given the gravamen, riots are the only rational response.

  34. I don’t know if Sullum is THE most dishonest and hypocritical piece of shit at Reason, but he’s certainly a top contender for the title.

  35. Trump supporters would go beyond peaceful protest after he spent two months insisting that he actually won the election by a landslide, a fact that he said would be apparent but for a massive criminal conspiracy that delivered a phony victory to Biden. Today is the day when Congress was scheduled to affirm that victory, which Trump has persistently portrayed as an intolerable threat to democracy.

    For four years, politicians have been persistently portraying Trump as an intolerable threat to democracy. Should they be held responsible for anti-Trump violence?

  36. He asked people to walk to the Capitol “peacefully,” and “cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women.”

    That may be “weak tea,” Jacob Sullum, but it’s what he asked people to do. And these requests are the OPPOSITE of inciting a riot.

    He also tweeted requests to “respect law enforcement.” No inciter of riots has ever done that! Throughout the many deadly riots of 2020, no one on the left did that!

    Trump’s supporters obeyed his requests. Unfortunately, a small fraction of the tens of thousands of people who visited Washington on Wednesday defied his requests to be peaceful. Those people are, by definition, not his supporters.

    Apply Reason, Mr. Sullum: if you asked a group of people not to break the law, and most of them obeyed you while a few of them defied you, it be neither correct nor fair to call the ones who defied you “Sullum supporters.”

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