Gas Tax Revenues Decline as Cars Get More Efficient. How Will Government Pay for Roads?
Lawmakers should consider a user-fee system designed to charge drivers by the mile.

The government has a dilemma: It's pushing hard for fuel-efficient vehicles, but gas taxes pay for roads. There's an obvious fix, but are Americans ready for it?
Granted, tax credits, subsidies, and government mandates aren't delivering the electric-vehicle sales surge President Joe Biden's administration promised. Tax breaks for non-wealthy buyers are proving less effective than predicted by government planners, and automakers like Toyota are seeing increased interest from consumers in more affordable and practical hybrids.
The predicament is an indictment of industrial policy, a costly species of government intervention increasingly favored by both political parties. Meanwhile, Americans' lingering preference for internal combustion engines underscores the flaws of subsidizing purchases.
Still, even if many Americans say they'll never buy an E.V., cars and trucks that use less or no fuel will one day make up the majority of vehicles on the road. The incentive to innovate away the gas guzzler is too strong, so new vehicles won't be contributing much to the gas tax to finance road maintenance, and the problem of funding infrastructure will soon be even worse than it is today.
It's been years since federal gas tax revenues (and other smaller fuel taxes dedicated to the fund) have been enough to cover Congress' transportation infrastructure spending. To fill the gap, policymakers have allowed the transfer of $275 billion in general funds to the Highway Trust Fund since 2008. Some $90 billion in transfers were the result of the infrastructure bill passed in 2021 alone.
My solution to the whole mess is to get the federal government out of infrastructure spending and financing in the first place and put the responsibility where it belongs: with states, municipalities, and the private sector. But considering the low probability that this idea will see the light of day, we should next consider a user-fee system designed to charge drivers by the mile.
Mileage-based user fees would ensure that those who use the infrastructure the most contribute proportionately more to its construction, maintenance, and improvement. Such a design aligns with the fundamental principle of user fees, linking payments directly to a person or entity's actual usage and providing a fair and equitable funding structure.
Marc Scribner, a transportation analyst at the Reason Foundation (which publishes this website), shows that while the privacy concerns of tracking vehicle miles are legit, they are by no means insurmountable.
Given the high upfront costs associated with setting up a nationwide system—again, this wouldn't be an issue if we left the federal government out of it—and assured of pushback from the motoring public, state and federal legislators should start charging only large trucks and other heavy-duty commercial vehicles.
Trucks using U.S. transportation systems to transfer critical goods are no bogeymen; they're just the ideal party to "go first" in transitioning away fully from fuel taxes. These vehicles already have logging devices and report mileage. Importantly, they also currently underpay their share of the costs they impose on the road system—meaning taxpayers heavily subsidize companies who use the roads to ship goods.
People might disagree on whether every driver should fully cover their cost of using a road, as was once done through the fuel tax. But even the most ardent Modern Monetary theorist would have a hard time arguing that businesses shouldn't have to cover their own costs. Course-correcting this aspect of things would in no way fill the funding hole, but it would be a good first step and help create momentum for a broader return to user fees.
New-age populists within the Republican Party may scoff. They opposed the national pilot for a mileage-based system included in the infrastructure bill and will likely continue to resist such ideas. Some may dislike that the idea originated from libertarian groups like the Reason Foundation or that the support for actual user fees was prominent in President Dwight D. Eisenhower's administration (though President Ronald Reagan reaffirmed its Republican appeal in 1982).
And for those who like bipartisanship, a commission created by Congress on transportation financing recommended a full shift to fees for miles driven in their final 2009 report.
The way I see this is that a greater reliance on user fees ultimately will create opportunities for privatization, a concept supported by numerous studies showcasing the efficiency and performance improvements possible through transparent and well-structured public-private partnerships.
The private sector has a proven track record of driving innovation in transportation safety. Extending this partnership to infrastructure allows for the implementation of cost-effective technologies, ultimately making our roads safer and more efficient.
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the government budgets have MORE than enough money to prioritize roads.
How about eliminate all gas and car taxes and take it off the bottom for transgender art studies at federal prisons or something?
I see what you did there.
With respect, Woodchipper, I will forego any interaction or contact with transgender bottoms, art studies or otherwise.
The author asks how . . . .? That, sadly, makes the article simple clickbait. The short answer is raise taxes on what your taxing, and tax some things you're not taxing. And "our" government will be happy to do both. After all, all the money "belongs" to government, troll bleating about the Federal Reserve notwithstanding, and they feel entitled to as much of what's in your pocket that they want.
Don't piss'em off - they may take a notion to teach you a "lesson".
It doesn’t help that some electric vehicle drivers, that may have received tax subsidies towards their purchase, do not pay for using the roads funded mostly by petroleum fuel taxes.
The government exists to create problems and then expect praise for solving them.
They also get to use the HOV lane, with no "HO" requirement, which puts the gas guzzlers in even more traffic jams to pollute even more. SUVs should get to use the HOV lane, so they don't sit idle in traffic so much. Make the electric cars stay in the main lanes.
The electric vehicles should be relegated to bicycle lanes and sidewalks.
Not to mention that EVs are generally a half ton or more heavier than their IC equivalents, and cause more wear to the roads.
In my state they increased the registration fee for electric vehicles and hybrids. Better solution than putting a tracker on everyone's car.
Traitor! User fees based on mileage are not an improvement over the failing old system. Paying lip-service to getting government out of the highway construction and maintenance business while encouraging them to stay in that business is not in any way libertarian. Given the fact that a significant portion of the streets and highways are already in government hands, the only reasonable “solution” is to convert as many highways and streets as possible to private ownership as quickly as possible. I am not willing to let the government at any level track my mileage with spy devices installed in my private property, so go peddle it somewhere else! Trying to claim that one form of government mismanagement is less unfair than another form of government mismanagement doesn't fly in a supposedly libertarian discussion group.
+100000 Well said. My electric company is a privately owned Co-op and it offers the most affordable electricity in the nation having the same distribution routes roads would require. Gov-'guns' just makes everything less affordable and more invasive.
You know, you CAN do milage based taxes without any tracking devices at all. It's called an odometer reading.
Right or wrong, a lot of states already have mandatory vehicle inspections, which always include odometer readings. Commercial vehicles also have regular inspections and odometer readings.
I want no part of any tracking devices in my vehicle, and certainly not willing to give government access to one, but a milage and GVW-based tax that used simple odometer readings would be fine by me if it replaced the gas excise tax. It is perhaps the closest thing to a direct user fee that we can get short of private toll roads (not to mention, how would THAT work?).
Odometer reading is *not* fine by me.
My state doesn’t have ‘mandatory vehicle inspections’ because we’re not a bunch of muppets and I like it that way.
Also, its going to encourage odometer hacking and that will lead to more intrusive government at they fight that.
Except that neither exclude miles driven on private property.
Spot on, Med Obl… I’ve written to Bob Poole about it and now I’ve got to tell Veronique the same thing……..
A scientific, objective(-ist?) view of the issue of ‘vehicles paying for roads’ would or should quickly (d-)evolve into the question of “what wears out the roads?”
I posit two answers: the weight of the vehicle and how many miles it travels in a year.
To the person worried about ‘rolling back’ or hacking odometers, those days passed when odometers became part of the computer circuitry in our cars. There’s nothing there to “crank backwards” to remove miles traveled, and to get into it electronically would be virtually impossible or uneconomical. Correct me if I’m wrong about that. Making a yearly ‘mileage check’ mandatory in all the states shouldn’t violate any state constitutions… the companies that write the insurance policies on registered vehicles want to know how many miles per year the vehicle drives. Every state with an emissions test can report the current odo reading with ease.
And the other variable, the GVW is completely available because every manufacturer know exactly how much each vehicle weighs when it leaves the factory. So, if mileage and weight are the major contributors to both wear and tear of existing roadways AND a good measure of how NEW roads must be engineered to withstand the weight of the traffic that’s going to be driving on the new roads, the Problem devolves into fairly simple math. The Feds can “coax” states that don’t want to implement any of this by dicking around with Fed money that flows to the States.
Oh, and keep in mind that all the large vehicles like trucks, semis, buses and whatever… weigh a LOT, put much more stress on the roadways but burn lots more fuel than passenger cars, so maybe Diesel fuel taxes per gallon should stay as-is.
Just spitballing, here, but I think Veronique and Robert should put their heads together on the subject.
Comments?
Cheers, and happy holidays.
“There’s an obvious fix” Moar government!
So you'd have government track everyone's mileage? Maybe from a financial perspective that makes sense, but not really good for freedom.
What would make somewhat more sense is to install meters on charging stations (even home) and charge based on that.
So if you charge at home you get charged twice? Neat!
You already get charged multiple times.
Income taxed, both as income and for SS.
Gasoline taxed same as electricity taxed. No difference.
Except you’d be paying for it twice.
Yes. You pay for the electricity to charge the car. You also pay a tax for using that electricity to operate that car on the roads, just like people in gasoline or diesel powered cars.
Unless you're suggesting that the taxes on a fuel purchase be transacted separately, so people see exactly what they're paying to the government, or calling for an end to fuel taxes, in which case I'm right there with you.
I just want to know what I’m paying for.
I certainly don’t expect it to be free.
No, you get charged once.
One part is your electric bill.
One part is the mileage fee.
Of course, this would then require your electric charger to be changed out - at great expense - to a government certified one that could meaure the electricity used specifically for charging the car.
And it makes assumptions that the car's battery is used for car things and ignores that you may be using the battery as a backup for your home.
VM, where's the 'twice'???
If you pull into a gas station and toss a few gallons into the tank because you're low on fuel but need to drive a bit to get to your favorite station which you know has lower prices, you'd then drive to the second station and pump more fuel into your tank.
That's exactly the same as stopping at a charging station (like at work) then putting your EV on your home charger when you get home.
Where's the 'double taxation' you described? Help us understand that. Thanks!
Yep, you beat me to it. It's a damned simple solution, a whole lot less intrusive than tracking mileage, and as proportional to wear and tear as the gasoline tax. And it's got to be dead simple -- collect it from the power company. They send bills out every month, they know what you have installed, and they've mandated smart meters which could report it back.
Taxes suck, governments suck, but some ways suck less than others.
I've got one smart meter - it can't tell *what* in my house is using electricity, only the total amount and it just reports that wirelessly so a reader doesn't have to come out.
Anything 'more smarterer' isn't getting installed at all.
Don't go that route (meters on home chargers). Because it will end up like remote monitoring on thermostats, where the government can set the temperature for you. Or decide that you're hogging all the electricity, and your day of the week for charging your car is Wednesday.
Years ago, our power company offered a slightly lower rate per kwh if we'd put a module on our air conditioning units so that the power company could temporarily disable the compressor if the overall electrical loads were getting too close to their generating capacity.
I didn't have to, but the carrot of lower rates encouraged me to do that, and we've never noticed any resulting 'temperature discomfort' in our home since then. So, in that sense, they've been 'monitoring' my usage With My Permission and Agreement for years.
My new car speaks USB, wi-fi and cellular, as I can make phone calls through it anywhere it gets a connection, so is it a giant leap to have new cars report their odometer readings every six months or whatever?
Or haven't you heard the fears expressed that, as cars get smarter and smarter. 'soon' it won't be impossible for your car dealer to remotely disable your car completely if you miss too many monthly payments on your car loan?
There was a video showing a guy going head-over-teakettle when his electric rental bike renter decided he'd not paid for using it, so they disabled the bike on the fly. Problem for the rider was that the method of disablement seemed to be locking the brakes on the front wheel with no warning, so the rider flipped over the handlebars and smacked into a parked car. So, non-payment might put you into a hospital for repair! Let's hope that when they disable your car on the fly, somehow they let you pull off the road rather than just slam on all the brakes in high speed traffic or when you're on a railroad crossing...
Just sayin'...
There is another simpler fix: add a fuel tax to car chargers. It's exactly as fair as the gas tax. The heavier your vehicle, the more fuel it uses, the more you pay.
Car chargers are easily identified. It's not like you can run an extension cord to your car and get any meaningful charge.
You seem to think that electricity is free.
Gasoline isn't free either. They still tax it.
Nooooo!
You seem to think that makes sense. Please, kind sir, show me how I implied electricity is free.
You absolutely can get a meaningful charge in a garage with a 240 outlet. With a high-amp circuit (certainly doable on residential service) you can easily charge your car from empty to full overnight.
How does the meter know what is used by the car charger vice the dryer?
Excellent point! If you're charging you car off the power grid at your home, there MUST be a way to separate the car juice from the home appliance consumption.
Since often you need a separate 'charger' to connect to your EV, the electric metering should be able to be modified for that, but is that he homeowner's responsibility, the highway department, the power company or who?! Sounds like a real fun problem for them to resolve. 🙂
Or, again, maybe the car could report back through your home's wi-fi to the power company or the highway department? Maybe not today, but no reason to claim that's impossible within a few years... I can update my car's software via an internet connection, my PC and a USB chip!
This new world is getting Braver and Braver...
" It’s not like you can run an extension cord to your car and get any meaningful charge."
That indeed is the premise of home charging, which is how most EV charging is done; a cord and a plug.
I ran a 30 amp circuit to my garage, and can get a full charge while I sleep. Sight unseen. And my electric meter shows only that I'm running a few loads through the dryer for all that is apparent.
The prospective benefits of usage-based fees are overwhelmed by the risks and costs of increasing the power of the surveillance state.
DeRugy hand-waves this away by saying that privacy concerns "are by no means insurmountable". Fine. Then surmount them. Solve that problem first before we take your other claims on faith.
This, particularly given the mention of commercial ELDs, which are fantastically invasive things.
I suppose it is not complex enough to simply stop by a reporting station every so often (monthly? Quarterly?) and have your mileage read and cough up the tax?
The government would need to know how many miles, but not exactly where.
U.S. Department of Transportation's Federal Highway Administration says we average 13,500 miles/yr.
According to the U.S. Department of Energy, the average fuel economy of new cars sold in the United States in 2021 was 25 miles per gallon.
So about 540 gallons a year. Current tax is 18.3 cents per gallon.
So a bit less than $100 per vehicle.
So charging about .0075 cents per mile would yield the same revenue.
(I know math is racist)
Will there be a test on this? Because tests are racist, too.
It will be ruled unconstitutional for taxing your out of state travel.
This is the same mentality which made a mess of sales taxes. It would be dirt simple to tax by the seller's location so they know the tax. The Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional to tax out of state buyers, so now every business has to pay 5-10 cents per transaction to calculate the buyer's sales tax.
Everything government touches, it fucks up.
I thought we were talking about the federal gas excise tax, so out-of-state is not an issue for that.
Taxing usage by mile makes sense – and to be really fair maybe we should factor in weight as well. Gross weight x miles divided by a factor to get the annual dollar amount. Maybe The car can annually transmit the total to the DMV once a year and you can pay along with your annual registration. Start with EVs, since they already are able to remotely communicate their mileage. We can keep the current fuel tax system for ICE vehicles. No mile-by-mile tracking needed.
I drive a Tesla and had been wondering about what the equivalent road tax should be. If you factor in the State Fuel Tax it works out to about $240 in California for the average car per year. A surprisingly tiny amount considering the value provided by roads and compared to all the other costs associated with car ownership. No wonder our roads are in such horrible shape compared to many European countries. I would be happy to pay double that amount to get the kinds of roads they have in Norway or Switzerland.
Its way to complex to be stopping by a reporting station. That would be an insane time imposition.
I live in a county of 200,000 people.
Let's say one reading every quarter. That's 2,222 people every day.
Let's say the place is open 12 hours a day, 7 days a week - 185 readings an hour.
If you have 4 people doing readings, that's 46 an hour per person. So you've got *one* minute and you had better hope there's no system glitches.
Costs are 720 dollars a day (22k/mo) just wages assuming they're making 15/hr and you rotate enough people so no one is doing overtime (which isn't too far above AZ's min wage). That's just the wage bill, not counting construction and zoning costs, utility costs, supply costs, etc.
We ain't a rich county so you're not going to just put multiple stations for convenience so everyone has to go to the one. We literally have one DMV office.
And if you say, well, contract out - now you've got to *pay* in order to pay your taxes?
.. A county of 200K people and you're doing the math assuming all the cars have to go to ONE station to be clocked in???
It could just as well be done by any garage doing an oil change or other service on the car, and I'll bet that WELL over 90% of the driving public is NOT doing their own oil changes...
I even pictured my dealership where I have most of our service done, photographing my VIN number and odometer reading and sending them into the cloud for the DMV or highway department OR my insurance company to check. With my permission, of course.
I don't know where you live, but where I live, if I receive an old-timey Paper Check in the mail, I can log on to my bank's server, secured by my fingerprint on my phone's screen, then photograph the front and back of the check, same as the phone could 'see' a QR code, and within seconds, the check is "deposited" into whatever account I've chosen.
Look at all the communication tools and networks we already have, then imagine a few distributed ways to get the basic mileage and VIN numbers to where they're needed.
Oh, and before I forget... most of this whole mess was guaranteed to happen decades ago when the Federal Government mandated better average gas mileage for US vehicles WITHOUT EVER considering Unintended Consequences such as reduced gas tax revenues resulting directly from the better gas mileage!!
Did some government moron think that people would Increase Their Yearly Driving mileage because they would be getting better gas mileage from their NEXT car??!?!
Another term I love is 'ceteris paribus', which means "everything else stays the same," basically. So, raising the gas mileage "assumed" that it wouldn't affect gas tax revenues??? A smart fourth-grader could see the flaws in that assumption, but nobody in the Federal Government gave that a thought, say, 40 years ago or until just recently? D'oh!
That 'we' in their numbers is doing a lot of heavy lifting - and I suspect it includes long-haul trucking.
Back when I used to drive *a lot* on my own, I was still only hitting about 1k miles a month.
Do you have so little going on that 'stopping by' a government agency (always so fast and efficient) would not be a trouble for you? Because I don't have time to go to the doctor or gym, I sure as hell don't want a monthly half day of my life spent on bureaucratic 'reporting' BS.
The people that drive the most are rural. Are they going to drive 200 miles monthly? Or are we going to staff sites with government workers every 20 miles? And while they are at it they might as well check... (fill in myriad blanks).
And then what? People don't go? Now we have a whole new police force to enforce people not showing up to hand over their $100 annual tax. This idea is so awful I'm guessing you must work for the government.
Well, I would normally say, "put tolls on bike lanes" but, despite having 100,000 linear miles of bike lanes in Seattle, very few people use them, so from a revenue standpoint, that wouldn't fix it.
You could tax electricity... or miles driven, or have license plate scanners everywhere. All kinds of libertarian-plus solutions I can think of.
I might start riding a horse around, in that nice narrow lane for slow traffic they put in.
I bet everyone would recognize that I was being an asshole by using a very slow, outmoded form of transportation that delayed everyone around me in the middle of a modern city. Which very few people seem to grasp when it's bicyclists doing it.
I prefer to travel in the bike lane by having an illegal alien au pair pull me in a rickshaw. When we come to red lights, the au pair polishes my monocle.
Traditionally, au pairs polish other things for their employers.
Oooooh, I do like the rickshaw idea. I may have to try that instead.
It rains a lot in Seattle, and riding a bike in the rain is far from pleasant.
California bike lanes get used, but they tend to slow down traffic, because you have to watch out for them, and because they give you a "road diet" to put them in, when they really need more car lanes, not fewer.
They just repaved and painted some roads here. Put a wide center lane in (even where there's no way to turn left not at an intersection, as these are arteries, not business streets) one lane, then a very wide "don't go" painted out area, then a bike lane.
A road that used to have plenty of room for two lanes of traffic each way PLUS a separated bike lane is now just one lane each way. And I damned near never see anyone in the bike lanes, except in the center of town where battery powered and rental bikes are common.
This is "road diet" and sold as a way to make things better for bicyclists. Basically CAUSE traffic, significantly reduce convenience for the greatest number of people, yet still use up all the space that a proper four lane road used in the first place.
Fuck I hate the term "Road Diet" -- almost as much as the stupid as shit logic behind road diets.
You could tax electricity… or miles driven, or have license plate scanners everywhere. All kinds of libertarian-plus solutions I can think of.
Last person out needs to remember to repeal the The Jones Act on their way out!
If they're just tracking the mileage, how do they know when you're driving on a private road or a toll road, as opposed to a county road or an interstate?
Seems like you would either:
a) have to use GPS or some other form of invasive tracking
b) some people will get double-charged a lot more than others
Again, how is this any different from fuel taxes. It's not like there's a refund for driving on private roads or toll roads.
In cases where it's a REAL issue, people can get fuel without road taxes for off-road use. Like for farm equipment and off-road only vehicles.
This is the exception. For someone who lives 2 miles off the government owned road, it is tough shit, you pay taxed fuel.
So, thinking about this as I type, I'd be much happier with the exceptions, who might drive on a private road enough to make the slightest bit of difference, paying double compared to invasive tracking.
Nothing's perfect, but we already know how abusive the government is toward our data and privacy. The more they get, the more tempted they'll be to abuse it.
Yeah, I almost mentioned red dye diesel in that comment. 😀
These vehicles already have logging devices and report mileage.
Speaking as someone who drove a truck with electronic logging for most of 2021, allow me to tell you that there is precisely fuck all about them that's libertarian. If you want to have any hope of getting people to sign on to the concept of mileage tracking, you'd best pick some other analogy.
Importantly, they also currently underpay their share of the costs they impose on the road system—meaning taxpayers heavily subsidize companies who use the roads to ship goods.
I'm not sure I actually buy this, either. Those trucks are using a lot of diesel (the best I averaged in any of the trucks I drove was 10.5 mpg) and they're moving a lot of stuff. It's 10.5 mpg, but it's also 45,000 lbs of cargo. So they're knocking down a lot of other trips by a lot of other people.
Trucks are responsible for essentially all road wear. My 1900 pound chevy spark could drive for a thousand years and not tear up the roads. Even SUV's don't do that much damage, maybe 2% of it at worst.
To the point of the article, you and your Spark are not paying much, either.
The user fees should be by the ton-mile, not the mile.
But for passenger cars, the government wouldn't have to track anything, just check the odometer once a year when you renew your registration.
Not a fan of the whole per mile concept, but maybe you're right about "Ton-mile". Good call.
My truck (2900 lbs) does more road wear than my motorcycle (450lbs), and a Tesla weighs from 4,000 to over 5,000 lbs when they have long range batteries so even more there.
Big trucks are ten times the weight of passenger vehicles. Teslas are ten times the weight of my motorcycle. I can only assume road wear is equivalent to the weight of the vehicle. Weight per axle might be a factor, too.
To be clear, we're talking about optimizing the ton-mile calculations in the background of a President who eliminated EV subsidies for non-union shops only to turn around and back striking auto workers demanding more money.
By his own predecessor's assessment, even if you tune the ton-mph-mile per axle calculation perfectly (give or take for global warming), Joe will fuck it up.
I'd like to see the evidence that trucks somehow under pay for roads. Diesel fuel taxes are much higher than gas taxes and it takes a lot more gallons to move an 80,000 lb. rig around. Secondly trucks pay much higher tolls. In Illinois some of the truck tolls are 10 times the cost of a four wheeler. And again, all taxes on trucks are ultimately paid by the consumer. This is really one the most economically retarded arguments I've ever seen at Reason.
This is really one the most economically retarded arguments I’ve ever seen at Reason.
Consider the source. It is Veronique after all.
She used to be much better.
This is really one the most economically retarded arguments I’ve ever seen at Reason.
Remember the halcyon days when Reason was an actual libertarian magazine and the answer to the “But, without government, who will pave the roads?” pablum was “If the roads are needed, the cost of paving and maintaining them should pay for themselves at a lower total cost without the government overhead.” repeated to the point of nauseum, truncated to “MUH ROADZ!”, and *that* repeated to the point of nauseum?
Man, you want to see some crazy tolls? NYC bridge tolls for 18-wheelers. Fuck.
Plus the agony of, y'know, having to drive an 18-wheeler in NYC.
Yeah. The most fuel efficient rig I drove got that 10.5 mpg. The least efficient (but far most powerful) got closer to 6. I agree with the poster above that most of the road wear is caused by trucks, but that's also a shit-ton of fuel taxes.
Consider this. Privacy wouldn't be a concern if it wasn't 'government' (the halls of justice) violating that privacy. If roads were but Co-ops of local/state residents then the halls of justice could enforce privacy concerns on the Co-ops as the "halls of justice" system is suppose to work.
Asking the "halls of justice" to provide a service literally destroys one's own individual path to justice in the system. Something this nation learned centuries ago and forgot.
...and how many B as in Billions have been wasted on virtue signalling "the sky is falling" campaign? I'd bet more than all the roads everywhere ever required. Apparently building the Nazi-Empire takes priority over having road maintenance.
Ha! As if ordinary people will be allowed to (1) own cars, of any kind, (2) drive at will, using any existing roads, and (3) be able to leave the commune without permission.
Lawmakers should
consider a user-fee system designed to charge drivers by the mile.grant themsleves more power to monitor everywhere you go in real time.Fuck off Reason.
No tax but FAIR tax.
Welcome to Salon 2.0
Ooooooh. Re-Salon.
Sell the roads to the highest bidder, one highway at a time. Let them figure out how to turn a profit.
Why not one square inch at a time?
Fuck off and die, asshole.
The author is a moron.
Roads are the backbone of our $27 trillion GDP. Roads should be part of the Federal budget.
I'm amazed at how stupid the author is, how little she understands the role of roads. I think the average high school girl could do better.
Only gov-'guns' can make a road or what? I think the average high school girl does do better than that kind of thinking.
The federal government should have *nothing* at all to do with roads. Anywhere. All roads should be state or private.
Lawmakers should consider a user-fee system designed to charge drivers by the mile.
That is nonsense. The only way to pay for roads is via a land tax. That road increases the value of the adjacent land and the beneficiary of that value should be the one who pays. If the value of the land is not increasing because of an adjacent road, then it almost certainly – like 100% – means there are too many fucking roads nearby and the road shouldn’t be paid for because it shouldn’t be built.
If the costs for road maintenance/overhaul in an area is choking a horse, then a land tax is the only way of changing the mindset about the problem. This shitty user-fee model has never resulted in a decision to not build a road. It CAN never result in a decision to prefer a different user/road-profile that might result in MUCH lower construction/maintenance (eg converting a single block in a grid system to say ped/bike use rather than car traffic).
What the user-fee model does result in is land-grant scams, bond bailouts, and exactly the sort of land cronyism that encourages corruption. Which – no surprise – is exactly the same problem as a ‘general tax base’ type of ‘revenue’ for roads. Same corruption in a shiny new box. Rinse and repeat forever.
"That is nonsense. The only way to pay for roads is via a land tax..."
No surprise, JFree is:
Full.
Of.
Shit.
To say you should have to pay on an 'increase in value' is a wealth tax. Increases in value are not income. Income is only income when the land is sold and, you know, turned into income. You're taxing unrealized gains. Will there be refunds if the land value drops?
Secondly, 'increase in value' is subjective. If you built a light rail station near my house it might increase my property's value *to other people* - but it decreases its value to me. Should I not get a rebate then?
Or is it 'well you should just sell your home and move somewhere else - for the good of society'? Collectivist nonsense.
The property tax system most places have right now is about as good as you're going to get if you have a property tax system at all.
Jesus fucking Christ. Yeah let's just raise taxes on trucks so nobody will notice. Businesses don't pay taxes. Their customers do. Economics 101. And the customers are every breathing human being in the country even if they ride a bicycle. Libertarians for stealth taxes. Fuck off Reason.
Perhaps they could use the gas taxes to pay for roads instead of bicycle paths?
What is this madness you speak?
Lawmakers should consider a user-fee system designed to charge drivers by the mile.
NEEDS MOAR TESTING!
Just mandate everyone (except climate jet setters and illegal immigrants) report their mileage and take a COVID test at the end of every trip. Problems solved. Koch-sucking libertopia achieved.
Seriously, the number of Reason writers who haven't been hit in the head with bats is aggravating on a couple of levels.
Just a reminder: Illinois, perennially among the Top 5 brokest States in the Union, 50 yrs. ago had a slogan that was “Toll free in ’73”. As in the tolls were supposed to pay off the freeways 50 yrs. ago. In the intervening 50 yrs. Chicago and Illinois discovered that they could borrow money and issue bonds against the stolen income and create jobs and even whole Agencies/Authorities to perpetuate the borrowing and spending.
Fuck you for suggesting that they should be charging per mile too.
really, it should probably be more like vehicle weight * speed * miles driven or something. with some coefficients for each of those...
Honestly, the easiest solution would probably be to just tax the sale of tires. size of the tires and mean time between replacement of the tires should be something we can correlate pretty well to estimated economic wear upon the roads.
Big farming or mining tires that are only used off-road would be exempt, I guess.
It should work almost as well as a GPS system or an odometer system, and be way less intrusive against personal privacy.
Taxing 4-tires that last 70,000 miles would run an equivalent of fuel tax of $35,000/mpg ~ $2000/+$500 on each tire at 20mpg. Pretty sure tire integrity is going to suffer at that rate.
Yeah, you don’t want to add a tax on a fairly safety critical component because it will disincetivize keeping that component in good condition – no one will replace tires until they pop.
Though I guess it will add one more excuse for cops to force contact with you - 'mandatory tire tread checkpoints'.
Welcome to life as a Commercial Truck Driver.
Not advocating, just saying.
Just a few fun facts I think should be pointed out after reading the comments.
1) Roads do have property owners. The land owner buys that parcel of land and the city/county/state carries an easement on the land required for the road.
2) Diesel fuel already has on-road (taxed) and off-road (tax-less) versions. See difference between red and white fuel.
3) The 2023 running tax rate of gasoline is $0.50/gal and on-road diesel at $0.59/gal of the pump price.
The real conundrum is that EV is getting a free-ride (equivalent of $0.50-0.60/gal) which of course is part of making it even remotely attractive while still needing to unfairly steal even more by being wildly subsidized. In the real world EV isn’t competitive what-so-ever.
Lawmakers should consider a user-fee system designed to charge drivers by the mile. VERONIQUE DE RUGY
From the “libertarians for government tracking of every vehicle” desk. Just when you thought the clown show couldn't get any more ridiculous.
Odometer readings.
Wonderful.
Multi-hour lines at the DMV, cars sitting there idling, while you wait for the one guy on duty to get off his break and slowly amble from car to car - actually, he won't move from his stool, you'll have to drive up - and try to find your account on his pad but, sorry, wifi isn't working well out here and the connection's bad and slow . . .
You must live somewhere where annual vehicle inspections are not already a thing.
It could always just be self-reported, too.
Yeah, not in this time-space continuum. We know this because the pilot programs are already running.
Yeah, in your dreams. Mileage taxes are implemented either via detailed trip logging, via GPS, and/or via telematics. Among other things, because different jurisdictions want their cut.
The proliferation of EVs has paved the way for smug, indignant drivers neither wanting to nor actually paying for a service they use.
They want to plug into their office's outlets to charge their cars during the day and not pay for the roads they drive on.
They could at least use the taxes on vehicles and fuel for things related to vehicles. Over half my annual property taxes assigned to my cars are used for schools that I have never attended nor have any of my children ever attended. The government has more than enough money to perform the duties it should. It is an issue of wasting tax revenue on things that it shouldn't be involved with.
"Lawmakers should consider a user-fee system designed to charge drivers by the mile."
And how will they do that? By putting a tracker in your car. Stupidest suggestion ever.
1. Raise registration costs. Works the same as for property taxes.
2. Don't build unneccesary roads that drive up maintenance bills.
The thing with the idea that trucks disproportionately damage roads compared to how much tax they pay - heavy trucks only use a tiny percentage of the roads.
Generally interstates and main roads in the city are the ones filled with semi's. There's a massive spiderweb of roads around those that are mostly used by light vehicles - and yes, those vehicles do less damage and those roads require less maintenance, but there's several orders of magnitude more of them.
The majority of road repair work is not on interstates and highways, its filling the potholes in downtown and residential streets.
This is why I want to see a much more detailed accounting of this claim.
As a truck driver, I will absolutely grant that the truck does more damage to the roads per vehicle mile than a Camry.
But is it more, per mile, per vehicle, per fuel-tax-per-mile, than a Camry, or rather, a thousand Camrys?
And, I will not stop saying it, again, even if you provably perfected the physics and economics, Joe, J.B., Gavin, Hochul... all the way down to even a number of the asshats who write for Cato would fuck it up because it's systemically racist or predicated on the idea that we don't just let everyone into the country or doesn't turn Puerto Rico into Shangri La or they're dead certain that a self-driving car with the same physical footprint as a manually-operated car should take up less asphalt or it doesn't have enough roundabouts which have been demonstrated! safer! than standard 4-way intersections (while ignoring costs and speed and land use...) or it needs more state-operated and mandated 'Oases'/commercial overpasses or whatever...
Oh come on, REASON. You're avoiding the issue.
Most gas taxes are NOT used for roads. Gas taxes are a honey pot spent on just about anything BUT building and maintaining roads. Most our our gas taxes are spent on little used "mass transit" that everyone avoids using.
Moreover, our country's population is stagnating (if we ever close the open borders), so the need for massive new roads systems is largely a fiction.
What utter idiocy. Gas taxes do not remotely pay for roads. Federal gas taxes don't even pay for Interstate maintenance. Much less any Interstate construction or any federal eminent domain shit re federal roads. Interstates make up maybe half of all federal roads.
States and rural are multiples bigger than federal mileage with state gas taxes paying for pretty much nothing even in states with higher state gas taxes.
The mass transit portion of federal gas taxes is not some honey pot. It is a tax that totals idk $4 billion dollars per year? The tax itself is a recognition of simple FACT - that every person using mass transit is equal and opposite to that same person incurring road wear and tear and increasing traffic congestion via a car-driven trip. I will completely agree that mass transit spending is incompetent in the US. Totally incompetent. Whatever is spent (which is much more than $4 billion per year) produces virtually no diversion of traffic to it. Which is another way to define incompetent.
But that is an entirely different problem than the ignorant whininess that you engage in re that portion of the federal gas tax. Though the ignorance of that whininess certainly contributes to the inability to hold government accountable for the incompetence of how they spend on mass transit.
Yes, in a system where Americans are annoyed and enraged by the constant nickel-and-diming monetization of every last little thing (airline seat/baggage fees, online ticket "convenience" fees, 17 different streaming services, etc.), clearly the solution is another nickel-and-dime solution that will have a disparate impact on working people, for equity or something. And let's go ahead and make it wildly intrusive to boot!
Tolls don't work if there's a bypass (NH found this out when it tried to do a double-priced "one way" toll on I-95 in Hampton NH... the result was massive traffic backups on Route 1, the other bridge into Maine). Then there's the Mass Pike which was supposed to have the tolls removed once paid for, 30+ years ago... those are still going strong. Gas tax declines as efficiency improves. Then again, none of the gas taxes seem to actually fund road repairs, given the condition of them around where I live. At best I've seen them haphazardly patch the potholes (once they've finally reached tire-destroying size... more craters than potholes, really) only for the snow plows to dig them up each winter, and then we get to play car-slalom and repeat the cycle all over again.
Bottom line, any 'mileage tax' will be an intrusive, nickel-and-dime, control-freak system, and none of that money is going to see a roadway anyway, so how about... NO.
It is incredibly stupid to think that roads should be paid by a user fee. So fucking stupid.
This is not some trail that only certain people benefit from. Roads ARE THE ENTIRE US ECONOMY. If you can't understand that, don't vote or have children.
Everybody pays for Defense because we all benefit - ditto with roads.
The author is a mal-educated moron.
LMAO... "It is incredibly stupid to think that roads should be paid by a user fee. So fucking stupid."
What in the world do you think fuel tax is you dumb*ss dipsh*t???
It always amazes me how many people can be so stupid when it comes to politics that they really believe magical-wands (slaves) makes things for them.
And BTW.... EV owners aren't paying so "Everybody" isn't paying.
This is exactly why I'm not a fan of a national sales tax ... because it gets swept out of sight like fuel tax has been to the point no-one even realizes how much they're paying for it while they get nickled and dimed into poverty.
I see you must be GenZ - shitty reading comprehension.
I'm not for ANY user fees for roads, which you would realize if you could read.
Just as we don't use "user fees" to fund Defense, NASA, Education, etc. - we shouldn't be looking at "user fees" for roads. Duh.
Btw, don't vote as that is how Fetterman got into the Senate and dementia man the Whitehouse. And don't have kids - gracefully take your dumb ass out if the gene pool.
Trust Veronique to always have the wrong answer. Gas taxes are paid at the pump. EV users should pay a tax at the charger, and it should be high enough to cover tax lost to charging at home. And how about an excise tax on the sale of an EV to cover lifetime road use? Let the prima donnas pay.